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Jul 07 01:54:04 <mr_claus_> ypbind-mt version 1.18 is not available at the mirrors, instead 1.19 is available and compiling fine
Jul 07 04:08:14 <giel> hm
Jul 07 04:08:22 <giel> what's the channel for general OE stuff?
Jul 07 04:08:31 <giel> ah, #oe, of course
Jul 07 04:35:05 <NAiL> mr_claus: thx
Jul 07 04:41:15 <NAiL> [g2]: :)
Jul 07 04:41:26 <NAiL> Look what I'm getting:
Jul 07 04:41:26 <NAiL> monotone: beginning commit on branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux'
Jul 07 04:41:27 <NAiL> monotone: fatal: signal: memory access violation
Jul 07 04:41:45 <[g2]> morning NAiL 
Jul 07 04:41:56 <[g2]> don't know what that means
Jul 07 04:42:06 <NAiL> Me neither. 
Jul 07 04:42:24 <[g2]> looks like a bad memory reference
Jul 07 04:43:02 <jacques> hmm, I hope it's not a monotone 0.20 bug because I just upgraded
Jul 07 04:43:13 <NAiL> No, debian doesn't have 0.20 yet
Jul 07 04:43:33 <NAiL> I wonder what causes it...
Jul 07 04:45:57 <jacques> well I was going to bed but then the London thing broke
Jul 07 04:46:45 <giel> yeah, weird stuff
Jul 07 04:48:36 <[g2]> it's ashame
Jul 07 05:02:51 <[g2]> NAiL, what's up with the mysql build in OE ?
Jul 07 05:03:51 <[g2]> I get "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)"
Jul 07 05:04:06 <[g2]> it sounds like a socked problem :)
Jul 07 05:06:18 <NAiL> ugh
Jul 07 05:06:28 <NAiL> No idea. I'll install and check ;)
Jul 07 05:06:53 <glc> mysqld creates the socket when it starts. mysqld is not running.
Jul 07 05:07:07 <NAiL> aha
Jul 07 05:07:17 <NAiL> Well, I ran into a different problem
Jul 07 05:07:18 <NAiL> root@gunslinger:~# ipkg install mysql
Jul 07 05:07:18 <NAiL> Segmentation fault
Jul 07 05:09:13 <NAiL> What the?
Jul 07 05:10:28 <NAiL> Can't say I like this... My slug segfaults on ipkg update. If I clear all the cache in memory, it doesn't segfault
Jul 07 05:11:36 <NAiL> There's a memory-test thingy in redboot, isn't there?
Jul 07 05:11:50 <NAiL> I'm a *bit* annoyed if my new slug is broken
Jul 07 05:28:28 <NAiL> Kinda looks like the London stuff was more "designed" to halt infrastructure than kill
Jul 07 05:30:27 <dyoung-away> London stuff?
Jul 07 05:30:28 <dyoung-away> what that?
Jul 07 05:30:33 <giel> terroristic attack pbly
Jul 07 05:30:35 <NAiL> 6 bombs or so
Jul 07 05:30:50 <dyoung-away> Wow, I'm apparently out of it.
Jul 07 05:30:54 <giel> well, if they wanted chaos they succeeded
Jul 07 05:42:11 <dyoung-away> Bah, CNN is useless.
Jul 07 05:42:28 * giel points at bbc.co.uk
Jul 07 05:43:37 <[g2]> glc, thx... are you using mysql ?
Jul 07 05:54:19 <dyoung-away> Hmm, guess I'll try calling my cousin tommrow.  phone lines appear to be full.
Jul 07 06:01:03 <mr_claus> NAiL: if i use the latest source, will i get the right packages from the repos?
Jul 07 06:01:41 <NAiL> mr_claus: I don't get you?
Jul 07 06:02:06 <mr_claus> hmm?
Jul 07 06:07:17 <NAiL> do you mean from the feeds?
Jul 07 06:07:24 <NAiL> The feeds haven't been updated yet
Jul 07 06:08:50 <NAiL> I can't get the source repo updated right now, since monotone crashes when I commit
Jul 07 06:14:12 <mr_claus> yes i mean the feeds, i compiled the latest source, no i need to know if i have to use an own repo to install additional packages
Jul 07 06:18:44 <NAiL> You won't get the latest from the feeds at the moment. I'm hoping I get kindof-updated ffeeds later tonight
Jul 07 06:18:57 <NAiL> Right now I'm off to see a girl
Jul 07 06:20:05 <dyoung-away> Woo!
Jul 07 06:20:22 <dyoung-away> have fun.
Jul 07 06:20:23 <dyoung-away> !
Jul 07 06:21:25 <mr_claus> NAiL: you see a girl every evening :) have fun and good luck
Jul 07 06:22:08 <NAiL> I have been what I would call /very/ lucky lately, yes. 
Jul 07 06:22:19 <mr_claus> hmm, the only way to kill udevd is to mount the proc filesystem first
Jul 07 06:23:11 <VoodooZ_work> is udev finally use by default in openslug btw?
Jul 07 06:23:23 <mr_claus> VoodooZ_work: not yet
Jul 07 06:23:24 <NAiL> VoodooZ_work: It was. 
Jul 07 06:23:32 <NAiL> It was, but no longer :P
Jul 07 06:23:58 <NAiL> It kindaworks. So I guess it'll be in soon. 
Jul 07 06:23:59 <mr_claus> udev is working very nice with openslug but i think it should be tested much more
Jul 07 06:24:23 <VoodooZ_work> Actually, I've been using for months now under openslug and I never had problems.
Jul 07 06:24:26 <mr_claus> at the moment the device detection should be done with udev i think, udev could be started as the first step 
Jul 07 06:24:44 <VoodooZ_work> And for the devices it doesn't recognise by default and I add them to my links.conf file.
Jul 07 06:25:03 <mr_claus> then the boot device could be detected, after the detection the udevd should be killed and restarted from the bootdevice
Jul 07 06:25:23 <VoodooZ_work> I'm asking because I just started playing with monotone so I have to redo all my private changes and was wondering if it since changed.
Jul 07 06:25:31 <NAiL> I like udev. It's just figuring out a nice way to make it behave problerly when the root fs is pivoted.
Jul 07 06:26:15 <mr_claus> NAiL: the kernel is loading udev at the beginning of the boot proccess and there is not way to kill it before the pivot_root will be done without a mounted proc filesystem it seems
Jul 07 06:26:45 <NAiL> mr_claus: Talked to udev developer(s)? There's gotta be a nice solution to this :P
Jul 07 06:27:29 <NAiL> mr_claus: What distro were you running again? If it was gentoo, then you might wanna check how gentoo handles it when you're using an initramfs
Jul 07 06:27:32 <mr_claus> NAiL: a simple way would be to create a pid file while starting udev
Jul 07 06:27:49 <mr_claus> NAiL: no i use debian sarge
Jul 07 06:28:06 <mr_claus> NAiL: but i want to test ubuntu at the workstation in future
Jul 07 06:29:01 <NAiL> I know gentoo handles udev in some way, I just didn't look at it when I was running gentoo
Jul 07 06:29:15 <NAiL> So that might be worth taking a look at
Jul 07 06:30:30 <[g2]> NAiL, so do you like the switch to sarge ?
Jul 07 06:30:38 <[g2]> s/do/how do/
Jul 07 06:31:25 <NAiL> Except I'm using etch? :). It's kindaworking. Not quite used to apt yet
Jul 07 06:31:41 <NAiL> It's damn much faster than installing things with gentoo anyways
Jul 07 06:32:04 * kolla remember installing gentoo once
Jul 07 06:32:16 <kolla> that is... _once_  ;)
Jul 07 06:32:21 <NAiL> I've installed Ubuntu 64-bit on my desktop, got a few problems there...
Jul 07 06:32:53 <kolla> since then, I changed laptop twice, but just tarred over my installation to new disk
Jul 07 06:33:15 <dyoung-away> Added John Schettino's hdparm numbers to the wiki.
Jul 07 06:33:24 <NAiL> dyoung-away: Nice
Jul 07 06:33:31 <dyoung-away> (for turboslug)
Jul 07 06:33:42 <NAiL> Yeah, read the mail
Jul 07 06:33:50 * NAiL goes away
Jul 07 06:33:56 <NAiL> see ya later
Jul 07 09:56:43 <NAiL> mr_claus: ypbind is upgraded. Gonna update the feed real soon now.
Jul 07 09:56:56 <mr_claus> NAiL: cool, thx
Jul 07 09:57:11 <NAiL> np
Jul 07 09:57:29 <NAiL> Figured out why monotone crashed. My dev box can't handle the extreme heat we're having here
Jul 07 09:57:39 <NAiL> So I've underclocked it for the time being
Jul 07 09:58:37 <CIA-8> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r78a60f71... 10/packages/nis/ypbind-mt_1.19.bb: Upgraded ypbind-mt to 1.19
Jul 07 09:58:51 <NAiL> there we go
Jul 07 09:59:13 <eno-away> i don't suppose you're talking about slug native dev box?
Jul 07 09:59:39 <NAiL> no
Jul 07 09:59:52 <NAiL> But my new slug is acting weird too
Jul 07 10:00:04 <eno-away> alright, then i'm relieved. Since i mod my 1st slug, and about to make the 2nd mod
Jul 07 10:00:05 <NAiL> e.g. "ipkg update" segfaults
Jul 07 10:00:45 <NAiL> It's colder now though (I had placed one slug on top of another)
Jul 07 10:00:53 <NAiL> So now it should be just fine ;)
Jul 07 10:01:00 <eno-away> monotone does use lots of CPU, tried it on slug to check out openembedded, took 2 days
Jul 07 10:01:38 <NAiL> rofl
Jul 07 10:01:52 <eno-away> and that's on a turboslug
Jul 07 10:02:55 <NAiL> Well, the initial checkout is demanding
Jul 07 10:03:06 <NAiL> but day to day work shouldn't be that extreme ;)
Jul 07 10:03:36 <NAiL> [g2]: ping?
Jul 07 10:03:45 <eno-away> i c. Is there a way around, like doing the initial co on a PC, then copy files over?
Jul 07 10:04:25 <NAiL> Hmm.. dunno. It *might* work, but I don't know if sqlite stores stuff in an endianness-dependant way
Jul 07 10:04:35 <NAiL> Only way to figure out is to try, I guess ;)
Jul 07 10:05:58 <NAiL> ipkg update && ipkg upgrade worked now, so I guess it was the heat & stacking. It was way too hot
Jul 07 10:10:08 <NAiL> [g2]: I noticed that linux-libc-headers were installed when I did ipkg upgrade, and from what I can see it looks complete. Is the only thing missing a meta-package that pulls in all the dependencies?
Jul 07 10:15:20 <eno-away> just copied a monotone sqlite db from slug to x86, sqlite3 opens and queries it just fine
Jul 07 10:15:30 <eno-away> so it's not endian specific
Jul 07 10:16:48 <NAiL> cool
Jul 07 10:16:54 <NAiL> Should probably work just fine then
Jul 07 10:17:42 <eno-away> the monotone initial co was my torture test on the turboslug
Jul 07 10:17:48 <[g2]> NAiL, Pong
Jul 07 10:18:04 <[g2]> NAiL, that's what I've been running with
Jul 07 10:18:18 <[g2]> that was checked into BK a while ago
Jul 07 10:18:28 <[g2]> like 10 days
Jul 07 10:18:40 <NAiL> nice
Jul 07 10:19:05 <NAiL> Is there a package that pulls all the deps? Or are we gonna just use the script?
Jul 07 10:19:32 <[g2]> I made a couple line changes to the scripts and it's been working except for file (which is missing) and a libtool update
Jul 07 10:19:54 <NAiL> file didn't work, right?
Jul 07 10:20:17 <[g2]> nod. there is no file
Jul 07 10:20:30 <[g2]> or it's the bb file which doesn't work
Jul 07 10:21:40 <NAiL> aha, ok.
Jul 07 10:22:20 * NAiL is getting confused
Jul 07 10:22:28 <NAiL> I have like... 8 putty sessions open
Jul 07 10:24:24 <NAiL> *snicker*
Jul 07 10:24:25 <NAiL> http://dashjr.org/~luke-jr/tmp/wombat.jpg
Jul 07 10:35:08 * NAiL updates the stable feed
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Jul 07 10:38:43 <[g2]> NAiL, are you running MySQL ?
Jul 07 10:38:58 <NAiL> no, but I can try installing now that my slug isn't crashing :P
Jul 07 10:39:08 <[g2]> I've got a perms issue
Jul 07 10:39:10 <NAiL> I think the extreme heat was too much
Jul 07 10:40:12 <NAiL> ugh, the mysql user doesn't exist. First issue :P
Jul 07 10:42:38 <NAiL> what's the issue, btw?
Jul 07 10:43:01 <NAiL> /var/state?
Jul 07 10:49:47 <[cc]smart> Q: Do guys like me get upload access to monotone or what is the policy on that ?
Jul 07 10:54:46 <SpanKY> [g2]: overclocking the slug worked :)
Jul 07 10:54:58 <[g2]> SpanKY, COOL!
Jul 07 10:54:59 <SpanKY> my bash emerge time went from ~30min to ~15min
Jul 07 10:55:11 <[g2]> excellent
Jul 07 11:03:00 <SpanKY> guess that explained why my netwinder used to beat out the slug ... i'd run `emerge sync` on them at the sametime and the netwinder would always edge out the slug
Jul 07 11:03:02 <SpanKY> but no more !
Jul 07 11:03:07 <SpanKY> thanks :)
Jul 07 11:03:42 <[g2]> NP. I'm glad you are having fun with it
Jul 07 11:04:01 <[g2]> did jbowler help you out the other day ?
Jul 07 11:08:32 <NAiL> there
Jul 07 11:08:38 <NAiL> unstable feed "up to date"
Jul 07 11:08:53 <NAiL> now, on to the stable feed
Jul 07 11:10:49 <[cc]smart> SpanKY: You're running gentoo on the slug ?
Jul 07 11:11:00 <senneth> heh
Jul 07 11:32:00 <[cc]smart> NOTE: package openslug-image-1.0: completed
Jul 07 11:32:00 <[cc]smart> ERROR: Nothing provides gphoto2
Jul 07 11:32:00 <[cc]smart> ERROR: dependency gphoto2 (for openslug-packages) not satisfied
Jul 07 11:32:00 <[cc]smart> NOTE: no buildable providers for openslug-packages
Jul 07 11:32:17 <[cc]smart> gphoto2 ? is this default in the base image now ? :D
Jul 07 11:33:12 <NAiL> It's only in packages
Jul 07 11:33:30 <NAiL> go in the oe-symlinks/packages dir and do svn up
Jul 07 11:35:12 <NAiL> Then openslug-packages should build :)
Jul 07 11:36:03 <[cc]smart> ah, ok
Jul 07 11:36:05 <[cc]smart> thx
Jul 07 11:36:15 <NAiL> np
Jul 07 11:36:50 <[cc]smart> another question: formerly, after sourceing the config i was able to do bitbake cyrus-imapd which is still available in openembedded/packages. when i now do that i says it's not available.
Jul 07 11:36:57 <[cc]smart> why that ?
Jul 07 11:38:22 <NAiL> The symlink isn't in oe-symlinks/packages
Jul 07 11:38:49 <NAiL> Add it there (ln -s ../../openembedded/packages/cyrus-imapd), and it will (probably) build
Jul 07 11:38:56 <[cc]smart> er, so now, these symlinks define what's availabe to a distro..., correct ?
Jul 07 11:39:02 <[cc]smart> ok
Jul 07 11:39:02 <NAiL> yeah
Jul 07 11:39:13 <NAiL> So that you don't have to parse *all* ebuilds every time
Jul 07 11:39:21 <NAiL> s/ebuilds/bb-files/
Jul 07 11:40:39 <NAiL> Are you using cyrus-imapd?
Jul 07 11:40:59 <[cc]smart> i'm going to use it
Jul 07 11:41:13 <[cc]smart> i had a fix for the snmp problem which is just disabling it via configure option
Jul 07 11:41:19 <[cc]smart> then it built fine
Jul 07 11:41:31 <NAiL> ok, tell me if it builds and works, and I'll add it. Haven't had time to set it up myself.
Jul 07 11:41:32 <[cc]smart> monotone switch came in between :)
Jul 07 11:42:03 <[cc]smart> in principe, i wanted to get monotne upload, too. how is it decided about htese things ?
Jul 07 11:44:08 <NAiL> Not entirely sure who decides that actually. I know I can add you, technically. 
Jul 07 11:44:38 <[cc]smart> so what does that mean to me ?
Jul 07 11:45:02 <NAiL> I'll check with the rest of them guys
Jul 07 11:45:08 <[cc]smart> ok, thx.
Jul 07 11:45:15 <NAiL> Probably not a problem
Jul 07 11:45:35 <NAiL> what other changes have you dont?
Jul 07 11:45:37 <NAiL> done
Jul 07 11:48:54 <SpanKY> [cc]smart: i'm running it in a chroot on an attached sub drive
Jul 07 11:49:02 <SpanKY> s/sub/usb/
Jul 07 11:52:35 <[cc]smart> NAiL: meant me ? didn't understand the changes question. done means key applied ?
Jul 07 11:53:03 <[cc]smart> SpanKY: what's the experience like ? works fine ?
Jul 07 11:53:50 <SpanKY> not quite sure what kind of answer you expect :)
Jul 07 11:54:05 <NAiL> [cc]smart: What other stuff than cyrus-imapd have you done?
Jul 07 11:54:13 <[cc]smart> not about performance during emerge, if that's what you think of :)
Jul 07 11:54:24 <SpanKY> it's the only big endian arm device i have so i do all my gentoo/uclibc dev on it
Jul 07 11:54:44 <[cc]smart> NAiL: you mean wrt changes to OE packages or wrt having used ?
Jul 07 11:54:58 <NAiL> wrt OE pkgs
Jul 07 11:55:10 <SpanKY> how about i'll get back to you if i get firefox to run in a vnc session ;)
Jul 07 11:55:10 <[cc]smart> a mod to ntp.conf
Jul 07 11:55:12 <[cc]smart> turnup
Jul 07 11:55:25 <[cc]smart> openslug-init matching the turnup
Jul 07 11:55:34 <[cc]smart> the cyrus one
Jul 07 11:55:58 <NAiL> and none of those are committed? 
Jul 07 11:56:15 <[cc]smart> if you did apply the --without-snmp then you can also add the symlinks for cyrus-imapd and cyrus-sasl
Jul 07 11:56:24 <NAiL> <-- openslug package manager, so I'm listening :P
Jul 07 11:56:29 <[cc]smart> the only committed one to my local copy is the ntp.conf one
Jul 07 11:56:42 <NAiL> What's the change there?
Jul 07 11:56:44 <[cc]smart> the other one will go through test first
Jul 07 11:56:56 <NAiL> (in ntp.conf)
Jul 07 11:57:06 <[cc]smart> i added local HW clock as fallback reference of low stratum plus default security
Jul 07 11:57:13 <NAiL> ah
Jul 07 11:57:17 <[cc]smart> as described in the bug i filed with OE
Jul 07 11:57:29 <NAiL> Good Idea.
Jul 07 11:57:58 <NAiL> I'm not using ntp though. I added openntpd, since it's 1/4th the size in mem, and 1/8th the size on disk.
Jul 07 11:58:22 <[cc]smart> does openntpd work as a server,too ?
Jul 07 11:58:34 <NAiL> not sure. Probably not :P
Jul 07 11:59:01 <[cc]smart> for my use case, i think of NTP server, mail server and imap
Jul 07 11:59:30 <[cc]smart> seldom reboot, so NTP server will tick well and i can reboot main machine without getting those official NTP server admins poissed too much about me
Jul 07 11:59:31 <[cc]smart> ;)
Jul 07 11:59:56 <NAiL> hehe
Jul 07 12:02:06 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 07 12:06:33 <CIA-8> 03repvik * r60 10/trunk/openslug/nslu2-linux/packages/cyrus-imapd: Added cyrus-imapd
Jul 07 12:07:11 <CIA-8> 03repvik * r61 10/trunk/openslug/nslu2-linux/packages/cyrus-sasl: Added cyrus-sasl
Jul 07 12:07:38 <[cc]smart> the imapd needs the --without-snmp
Jul 07 12:07:45 <[cc]smart> that ensured '
Jul 07 12:07:47 <[cc]smart> ?
Jul 07 12:08:07 <NAiL> Haven't committed the changes to the .bb yet actually. It'll be there in a sec ;)
Jul 07 12:10:20 <[cc]smart> and you also noticed that i mentionned that i haven't verified operation yet, i guess... :)
Jul 07 12:10:56 <NAiL> yes. Not adding it to packages before it works :P
Jul 07 12:11:30 <NAiL> cyrus-imapd doesn't build on my box though
Jul 07 12:11:38 <NAiL> ../lib/libcyrus.a(cyrusdb_berkeley.o): In function `mysync':
Jul 07 12:11:38 <NAiL> cyrusdb_berkeley.c:(.text+0x48c): undefined reference to `txn_checkpoint'
Jul 07 12:11:38 <NAiL> ../lib/libcyrus.a(cyrusdb_berkeley.o): In function `myarchive':
Jul 07 12:11:38 <NAiL> cyrusdb_berkeley.c:(.text+0x548): undefined reference to `log_archive'
Jul 07 12:11:47 <[cc]smart> with the --wtihout.-snamp change it builds fine for me
Jul 07 12:12:21 <NAiL> lots of tnx_* stuff missing
Jul 07 12:12:27 <NAiL> txn_ even
Jul 07 12:13:03 <[cc]smart> i do have db3 stuff automatically compiled by bitbake before all they cyrus stuff... that's happening for you too, doesn't it ?
Jul 07 12:13:36 <[cc]smart> first db3, then sasl then imapd
Jul 07 12:13:40 <[cc]smart> thats what it dows
Jul 07 12:13:44 <NAiL> db3-3.2.9-r1 is built, yes
Jul 07 12:14:28 <[cc]smart> let me pull and see possible differences
Jul 07 12:16:51 <[cc]smart> i don't see your change as of yet it seems, but here is what i did:
Jul 07 12:16:54 <[cc]smart> -               --without-perl"
Jul 07 12:16:54 <[cc]smart> +               --without-perl \
Jul 07 12:16:54 <[cc]smart> +               --without-snmp"
Jul 07 12:17:08 <[cc]smart> i guess you did same
Jul 07 12:17:11 <[cc]smart> no other change
Jul 07 12:17:44 <NAiL> exactly the same as mine
Jul 07 12:18:11 <[cc]smart> i'm rebuilding the whole lot now.
Jul 07 12:18:14 <NAiL> I added the db3 dependency just now. I've cleaned out db3 and cyrus-imapd. Rebuilding to check if that works.
Jul 07 12:18:48 <[cc]smart> the dependency was there before already somehow. it did that for me automagically already.
Jul 07 12:20:18 <NAiL> nope, same error
Jul 07 12:21:37 <[cc]smart> hmm... and you are looking at openslug right now
Jul 07 12:21:43 <NAiL> yes
Jul 07 12:21:57 <[cc]smart> let mine complete
Jul 07 12:22:12 <NAiL> Gotta get something to eat, brb
Jul 07 12:22:14 <[cc]smart> but i had treid it several times before and had no issues
Jul 07 12:22:25 <[cc]smart> in compile
Jul 07 12:43:05 <NAiL> strange
Jul 07 12:43:13 <[cc]smart> it will prolly compile some more time. going to sleep...
Jul 07 12:43:20 <[cc]smart> strange ?
Jul 07 12:43:22 <NAiL> good night
Jul 07 12:43:31 <NAiL> that yours compile and mine does not ;)
Jul 07 12:43:40 <NAiL> btw.. what revision bitbake do you have?
Jul 07 12:44:24 <[cc]smart> BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.0, bitbake version 1.2.9
Jul 07 12:45:05 <[cc]smart> i modified that master makefile to only do openslug for me
Jul 07 12:45:21 <[cc]smart> no bitbake or unslung or such
Jul 07 12:46:15 <[cc]smart> ah fck.... it is modified again
Jul 07 12:48:38 <[cc]smart> seems its become part of monotone
Jul 07 12:48:45 <[cc]smart> ah well, going to sleep now
Jul 07 12:48:46 <[cc]smart> n8
Jul 07 12:48:49 <NAiL> nite
Jul 07 13:24:49 <perlguru> i have a strange problem: during boot of slug, is it bad if the ready/status led is off?
Jul 07 13:25:06 <perlguru> cant ping the device either
Jul 07 13:25:24 <perlguru> did work an hour ago
Jul 07 13:25:48 <perlguru> can boot without hdd
Jul 07 14:37:03 <glc> [g2]: Yes I run MySQL at work, but not on a slug.
Jul 07 14:37:50 <[g2]> glc, thx. I'm trying to get it setup on OpenSlug
Jul 07 14:38:22 <glc> What problem are you having?
Jul 07 14:38:23 <[g2]> I don't think I have the my.cnf file setup and so I'm getting permission errors
Jul 07 14:38:59 <[g2]> 050707 17:31:20  InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation.
Jul 07 14:38:59 <[g2]> InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to
Jul 07 14:39:26 <glc> The mysql data directory must be owned by the mysql user.
Jul 07 14:40:05 <NAiL> [g2]: You're running from the stable feed?
Jul 07 14:40:08 <glc> You are running innodb?
Jul 07 14:40:34 <NAiL> [g2]: Disable innodb. It hogs half the mem on the slug anyway
Jul 07 14:40:38 <glc> I only run MyISAM
Jul 07 14:41:21 <[g2]> Here's the meaningful output from mysqld --verbose --help
Jul 07 14:41:25 <[g2]> http://pastebin.ca/17190
Jul 07 14:41:59 <[g2]> I'm running the default configure from MySQL 4.1.12
Jul 07 14:42:29 <NAiL> aha
Jul 07 14:43:05 <NAiL> It's a native compile?
Jul 07 14:43:09 <[g2]> yes
Jul 07 14:44:00 <NAiL> The default configure isn't sane
Jul 07 14:44:17 <[g2]> OK :)
Jul 07 14:44:39 <[g2]> I was going to check the configure for the unslung feed
Jul 07 14:44:55 <NAiL> Something like this works:
Jul 07 14:44:55 <NAiL>  --with-embedded-server --prefix=/usr --datadir=/var/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/state --disable-dependency-tracking --withou
Jul 07 14:44:59 <NAiL> t-raid --without-debug --with-low-memory --without-query-cache --without-man --without-docs --without-innodb
Jul 07 14:45:59 <NAiL> replace --localstatedir=/var/state with /var, and I think it's sane
Jul 07 14:46:29 <[g2]> did you build as root or mysql ?
Jul 07 14:46:38 <NAiL> I built as root
Jul 07 14:46:55 <[g2]> and it runs for you ?
Jul 07 14:47:07 <NAiL> It ran, yes. Not running it now though
Jul 07 14:47:30 <NAiL> Those parameters are from the cross compile, btw. So a working version is in the unstable feed.
Jul 07 14:47:46 <NAiL> (as of earlier today)
Jul 07 14:47:59 <[g2]> is there any "make uninstall"
Jul 07 14:48:09 <NAiL> hmm.. not that I'm aware of. 
Jul 07 14:48:20 <[g2]> that's something we need :)
Jul 07 14:48:40 <NAiL> use find ;)
Jul 07 14:48:56 <NAiL> look at the timestamp on the mysql binary, and use find :)
Jul 07 14:49:04 <glc> Everything should install in a single tree.
Jul 07 14:49:24 <[g2]> that'd be nice
Jul 07 14:49:46 <glc> Except the data directory.
Jul 07 14:49:59 <NAiL> With the ipkg, that's no problem. It's only when you do a native compile that uninstalling is a problem..
Jul 07 14:50:24 <kolla_> what is this file for? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile
Jul 07 14:50:28 <glc> This allows multiple versions of MySQL to be installed and running at the same time.
Jul 07 14:50:29 <dyoung-away> that sounds like a pretty compelling reason to ipkg it.
Jul 07 14:50:41 <glc> Probably not realistic on a slug.
Jul 07 14:51:15 <NAiL> dyoung-away: It's in the unstable feed. I think it's working (except localstatedir is wrong)
Jul 07 14:52:10 <[g2]> NAiL, is that the OpenSlug OE unstable ?
Jul 07 14:52:29 <NAiL> yes
Jul 07 14:52:41 <[g2]> which version of MySQL ?
Jul 07 14:52:46 <NAiL> 4.1.12
Jul 07 14:53:07 * [g2] hugs NAiL 
Jul 07 14:53:22 <[g2]> when was it put in there ?
Jul 07 14:53:55 <NAiL> Well... It's been in OE (fixed) for a few days. It came to the feed a few hours ago.
Jul 07 14:54:03 <kolla_> ah.. mm'
Jul 07 14:54:23 <NAiL> I'm fixing the localstatedir/datadir stuff now, pushing changes back.
Jul 07 14:54:27 <dyoung-away> kolla_, have you read that Makefile?
Jul 07 14:54:39 <dyoung-away> kolla_, its to build all things nslu2 related.
Jul 07 14:55:56 <kolla_> yes, I noticed
Jul 07 14:56:05 <kolla_> running make now :)
Jul 07 14:56:19 <dyoung-away> do make setup first
Jul 07 14:56:46 * NAiL waits for CIA 
Jul 07 14:57:08 <kolla_> dyoung-away: yes
Jul 07 14:57:16 <dyoung-away> NAiL, monotone cia reports are generated every 5 minutes via cron
Jul 07 14:57:22 <NAiL> dyoung-away: I know.
Jul 07 14:57:26 <dyoung-away> so you just missed it.
Jul 07 14:57:33 <dyoung-away> gotta wait 4 minutes.
Jul 07 14:57:40 * NAiL pouts
Jul 07 14:57:54 <NAiL> That's gonna be fixed when mtn 0.20 is used, right? :D
Jul 07 14:58:10 <dyoung-away> if the post-commit hooks work.
Jul 07 14:58:15 <[g2]> NAiL, I had tried the ipkg install and had the same problem with the perms
Jul 07 14:58:27 <NAiL> [g2]: when?
Jul 07 14:58:32 <CIA-8> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r8e1e48e1... 10/packages/mysql/mysql_4.1.12.bb: Fixed path issue
Jul 07 14:58:33 <[g2]> that was from a 1 july ish pull
Jul 07 14:58:46 <NAiL> aha. Yes. I know. That didn't have my changes in there.
Jul 07 14:59:30 <NAiL> Should work now
Jul 07 14:59:32 <[g2]> is there a way to just update monotone and not all the stuff for optware ?
Jul 07 15:00:29 <NAiL> wb
Jul 07 15:00:35 <dyoung-away> make update-openembedded?
Jul 07 15:00:47 <dyoung-away> when you say "update monotone" what do you mean?
Jul 07 15:00:59 <dyoung-away> surely you dont mean the monotone binary.
Jul 07 15:01:01 <[g2]> I mean pull/sync the db
Jul 07 15:01:09 <jacques> jbot, test
Jul 07 15:01:09 <jbot> Test Failed!
Jul 07 15:01:34 <dyoung-away> cd openembedded; monotone update ?
Jul 07 15:01:36 <NAiL> [g2]: cd openembedded && mt pull ?
Jul 07 15:01:38 <dyoung-away> cd openembedded; monotone pull ?
Jul 07 15:01:57 <dyoung-away> or make openembedded-update
Jul 07 15:02:00 <dyoung-away> does the same thing
Jul 07 15:02:07 <dyoung-away> aigh
Jul 07 15:02:14 <dyoung-away> make update-openembedded
Jul 07 15:03:06 * [g2] hugs you guys
Jul 07 15:04:18 <[g2]> hey btw, I was ipkg updating one slug from another slug serving up the files via Apache
Jul 07 15:05:52 <dyoung-away> Yeah, thats how I've been doing it.
Jul 07 15:06:07 <dyoung-away> my local repo is a slug.
Jul 07 15:06:16 <dyoung-away> tftp images, ipk files, etc
Jul 07 15:06:28 <[g2]> now I just need to mount that as nfs and build the ipks directly on it
Jul 07 15:09:06 <[g2]> Ok so I did a "make openembedded-update" and it updated the monotone db
Jul 07 15:09:42 <[g2]> then I did a "make openslug-build" and it goes and does another anonymous pull
Jul 07 15:19:28 <CIA-8> 03aabaker * 10unslung/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Add a make file for the IM to IRC gateway Bitlbee, GNUTLS (the preferred option for it to do SSL) and all of the libraries GNUTLS needs
Jul 07 15:23:49 <CIA-8> 03marceln * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/netio.mk): netio added.
Jul 07 15:24:32 <[g2]> NAiL, I guess you didn't fix that gphoto2 error ?
Jul 07 15:44:25 <kolla_> "monotone: verifying new revisions (this may take a while)" - how long is a while? :)
Jul 07 16:00:32 <DaKa2> kolla_: its long
Jul 07 16:00:44 <kolla_> ok :)
Jul 07 20:27:47 <[g2]> dyoung-web, hey
Jul 07 20:28:53 <dyoung-web> morning
Jul 07 20:30:00 <[g2]> dyoung-web, you know we aren't running nfs v3 right ?
Jul 07 20:32:04 <dyoung-web> Um.,..
Jul 07 20:32:15 <dyoung-web> how did you arrive at that conclusion?
Jul 07 20:32:34 <[g2]> because the mount says v2
Jul 07 20:32:50 <dyoung-web> CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
Jul 07 20:32:50 <dyoung-web> CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
Jul 07 20:32:51 <[g2]> and the NFSD_V3 is not set in the default kernel config
Jul 07 20:33:03 <dyoung-web> thats from openslug defconfig
Jul 07 20:33:17 <[g2]> and look a couple lines after that
Jul 07 20:33:29 <dyoung-web> Oh yeah
Jul 07 20:33:35 <dyoung-web> Okay, fix it!
Jul 07 20:33:38 <dyoung-web> :-)
Jul 07 20:33:57 <[g2]> well I changed that but it still doesn't seem to mount V3
Jul 07 20:34:17 <[g2]> that's why I thought I'd talk to THE MAN (dyoung0
Jul 07 20:34:23 <[g2]> (dyoung)
Jul 07 20:37:44 <dyoung-web> hmm
Jul 07 20:38:16 <[g2]> Just and FYI
Jul 07 20:38:20 <dyoung-web> I thought it used 3 by default.
Jul 07 20:38:23 <[g2]> and everyone else
Jul 07 20:38:28 <[g2]> me too :)
Jul 07 20:38:38 <dyoung-web> did you commit the defconfig change?
Jul 07 20:38:43 <[g2]> no
Jul 07 20:38:49 <[g2]> it didn't seem to fix it
Jul 07 20:39:31 <[g2]> maybe my mount cmd is wrong
Jul 07 20:39:36 <dyoung-web> there used to be a option to mount to force the version.
Jul 07 20:39:41 <dyoung-web> but I cant seem to remembver it
Jul 07 20:39:49 <dyoung-web> -o version=3 or something
Jul 07 20:39:58 <[g2]>  mount 192.168.123.117:/www /mnt/nfs -o nfsvers=3  
Jul 07 20:40:18 <dyoung-web> mount -o options from to
Jul 07 20:40:35 <dyoung-web> so try mount -o nfsvers=3 192.168.123.117:foo /foo
Jul 07 20:42:01 <[g2]> NFSv3 not supported!
Jul 07 20:42:01 <[g2]> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.123.117:/www,
Jul 07 20:42:01 <[g2]>        or too many mounted file systems
Jul 07 20:42:24 <[g2]> root@apex:~# mountd
Jul 07 20:42:24 <[g2]> root@apex:~# svc: unknown version (3)
Jul 07 20:42:24 <[g2]> svc: unknown version (3)
Jul 07 20:42:32 <dyoung-web> um...
Jul 07 20:42:33 <dyoung-web> okay
Jul 07 20:42:39 <dyoung-web> a light bulb went off
Jul 07 20:42:53 <[g2]> so you're in the dark now ? :)
Jul 07 20:43:01 <dyoung-web> yeah
Jul 07 20:43:19 <dyoung-web> because nfs-utils uses --enable-nfsv3 .
Jul 07 20:43:53 <[g2]> 192.168.123.117:/www /mnt/nfs nfs rw,v2,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,hard,udp,lock,addr=192.168.123.117 0 0
Jul 07 20:44:15 <[g2]> without the nfsvers that's the /proc/mounts line
Jul 07 20:44:21 <[g2]> note the "v2"
Jul 07 20:45:01 <[g2]> is there and --enable-nfsdv3 ?
Jul 07 20:45:07 <[g2]> is there an --enable-nfsdv3 ?
Jul 07 20:45:21 <dyoung-web> how old is your nfs-utils, and are you certain you have the kernel defconfig in?
Jul 07 20:45:25 <dyoung-web> cat /proc/defconfig
Jul 07 20:45:52 <[g2]> that's not enabled
Jul 07 20:46:02 <[g2]> it's today's pull
Jul 07 20:46:20 <[g2]> plus that change for nfsd_v3
Jul 07 20:46:56 <[g2]> btw is there a graceful way to shutdown nfs ?
Jul 07 20:47:21 <dyoung-web> well, for nfs-utils, nfsv3 is either on or off.
Jul 07 20:47:39 <dyoung-web> (ie: there is no differentiation between server and client nfsv3)
Jul 07 20:47:48 <[g2]> ok
Jul 07 20:48:09 <dyoung-web> graceful.
Jul 07 20:48:13 <dyoung-web> reboot it. :-)
Jul 07 20:48:29 <[g2]> that's what I've been doing :)
Jul 07 20:48:44 <[g2]> I was kinda looking for /etc/init.d/nfsd stop
Jul 07 20:49:09 <dyoung-web> Didnt write it yet.
Jul 07 20:49:19 <[g2]> me either
Jul 07 20:49:28 <[g2]> I'm trying to make v3 work :)
Jul 07 20:49:52 <[g2]> or at least understand which version I'm running
Jul 07 20:50:06 <NAiL> [g2]: tried gphoto2?
Jul 07 20:50:15 <[g2]> hey NAiL 
Jul 07 20:50:17 <[g2]> not yet
Jul 07 20:50:24 <[g2]> the build died on that
Jul 07 20:50:26 <dyoung-web> do you have rpcinfo?
Jul 07 20:50:43 <[g2]> dyoung-web, server or client ?
Jul 07 20:50:43 <NAiL> [g2]: with what error? It build (and it's in the feed) on my end.
Jul 07 20:50:53 <dyoung-web> rpcinfo
Jul 07 20:51:12 <[g2]> dyoung-web, my question was on the slug or PC
Jul 07 20:51:13 <dyoung-web> I guess thats a client.
Jul 07 20:51:20 <dyoung-web> oh.
Jul 07 20:51:23 <dyoung-web> Either?
Jul 07 20:51:39 <[g2]> gentoo2 root # rpcinfo
Jul 07 20:51:39 <[g2]> Usage: rpcinfo [ -n portnum ] -u host prognum [ versnum ]
Jul 07 20:51:50 <dyoung-web> rpcinfo -u slug nfs
Jul 07 20:52:26 <[g2]>  rpcinfo -u 192.168.123.117 nfs
Jul 07 20:52:26 <[g2]> program 100003 version 2 ready and waiting
Jul 07 20:52:52 * dyoung-web stomps slugs
Jul 07 20:52:54 <[g2]> the rmtab has a 0x00002 in it also
Jul 07 20:53:02 <[g2]> lol
Jul 07 20:53:28 * [g2] pokes sw dev's :)
Jul 07 20:57:51 <dyoung-web> [g2] were you concerned about 2.6.12.2 being the default kernel?
Jul 07 20:58:11 <[g2]> yes
Jul 07 20:58:25 <dyoung-web> I pulled earlier today and see that its defaulted to 2.6.11.2
Jul 07 20:58:35 <dyoung-web> Unless I missed something.
Jul 07 20:58:42 <[g2]> good
Jul 07 20:59:11 <[g2]> there was talk in OE that there might be jffs2 corruption in 2.6.12
Jul 07 20:59:17 <[g2]> on ARM
Jul 07 20:59:24 <[g2]> mtd layer
Jul 07 21:00:08 <jacques> I guess it changed the, because when I built it yesterday morning it built 2.6.12.2
Jul 07 21:00:47 <dyoung-web> Something must have changed... is it using nslu2-kernel or openslug-kernel in a preferred way?
Jul 07 21:01:07 <jacques> nslu2-kernel-2.6.12.2-r0/
Jul 07 21:01:39 <dyoung-web> so what is openslug-kernel for now?
Jul 07 21:01:47 <dyoung-web> I'm confused.
Jul 07 21:01:57 <dyoung-web> [g2] which kernel defconfig did you change?
Jul 07 21:02:07 <[g2]> openslug
Jul 07 21:02:11 <dyoung-web> openslug-kernel-foo or nslu2-kernel-foo ?
Jul 07 21:02:18 <jacques> mine didn't build openslug-kernel
Jul 07 21:02:20 <dyoung-web> oh, maybe thats why it doesnt work then
Jul 07 21:02:38 <[g2]> I did a bb -c clean
Jul 07 21:02:53 <[g2]> maybe
Jul 07 21:02:59 <dyoung-web> [g2] but if you modded the openslug one, thats the wrong one
Jul 07 21:03:05 <dyoung-web> openslug-kernel one
Jul 07 21:03:24 <[g2]> I only modded it locally
Jul 07 21:03:26 <[g2]> for testing
Jul 07 21:03:56 <dyoung-web> which it though?
Jul 07 21:04:14 <dyoung-web> tmp/work/openslug-kernel or tmp/work/nslu2-kernel ?
Jul 07 21:04:42 <[g2]> Ok I *don't* have an nslu2-kernel
Jul 07 21:05:02 <[g2]> I've got a tmp/work/openslug-ker.
Jul 07 21:05:19 <NAiL> I've only got nslu2-kernel
Jul 07 21:05:33 <NAiL> nslu2-kernel-2.6.12.2-r0  
Jul 07 21:06:43 <[g2]> Ok... I'll bet this is a different between a make and a build clean of tmp
Jul 07 21:06:53 <[g2]> s/different/difference/
Jul 07 21:07:50 <dyoung-web> [g2] what does your openslug.conf tell you the preferred kernel provider is?
Jul 07 21:09:28 <[g2]> PREFERRED_VERSION_openslug-kernel ?= "2.6.11.2"
Jul 07 21:09:39 <dyoung-web> no, not that one
Jul 07 21:09:53 <dyoung-web> the pePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ... ?
Jul 07 21:10:11 <[g2]> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "openslug-kernel"
Jul 07 21:10:42 <dyoung-web> I think thats a very old file.
Jul 07 21:10:52 <dyoung-web> but it doesnt matter for npow
Jul 07 21:11:03 <dyoung-web> so you are modding the right file.
Jul 07 21:11:10 <[g2]> nod.
Jul 07 21:11:16 <dyoung-web> so I'm *totally* in the dark as to why it doesnt think V3 is there
Jul 07 21:11:31 <NAiL> PREFERRED_VERSION_openslug-kernel ?= "2.6.11.2"
Jul 07 21:11:31 <NAiL> # The nslu2-kernel version is currently tracking the latest
Jul 07 21:11:31 <NAiL> # Change before release!
Jul 07 21:11:31 <NAiL> #PREFERRED_VERSION_nslu2-kernel ?= "2.6.12.2"
Jul 07 21:11:49 <NAiL> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "nslu2-kernel"
Jul 07 21:12:27 <[g2]> we'll figure it out
Jul 07 21:12:42 <[g2]> NAiL, you've been sleeping OK ?
Jul 07 21:12:46 <dyoung-web> Yup.
Jul 07 21:12:53 <[g2]> Chill'n
Jul 07 21:12:58 <NAiL> [g2]: yeah, for the last ~6.5 hours
Jul 07 21:13:04 <[g2]> excellent
Jul 07 21:13:07 <NAiL> Which is unusually long for me ;)
Jul 07 21:13:13 <[g2]> very good
Jul 07 21:13:13 <dyoung-web> Are you and me and beewoolie the only folk interested in nfs?
Jul 07 21:13:22 <[g2]> dunno
Jul 07 21:13:36 <NAiL> Can't say I hear much about nfs, actually
Jul 07 21:13:37 <[g2]> I'd love to have stats on the packages pulled
Jul 07 21:13:56 <dyoung-web> pulled?
Jul 07 21:14:00 <dyoung-web> from feed?
Jul 07 21:14:04 <[g2]> yes
Jul 07 21:14:11 <[g2]> ipkg updated
Jul 07 21:14:11 <dyoung-web> we'll have that soon enough.
Jul 07 21:14:37 <NAiL> btw, who can add "Openslug Packages" on slugbug?
Jul 07 21:15:00 <dyoung-web> Tiersten, rwhitby, ka6sox should be able to
Jul 07 21:15:23 <NAiL> ok
Jul 07 21:16:26 <NAiL> [g2]: Going to see if mysql works as it should now
Jul 07 21:18:25 <NAiL> Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/unstable/mysql_4.1.12-r1_armeb.ipk <-- latest and greates with hopefully all fixes
Jul 07 21:18:58 <[g2]> mysql - 4.1.12-r1 - The MySQL Open Source Database System
Jul 07 21:18:58 <[g2]> mysql-dev - 4.1.12-r1 - The MySQL Open Source Database System
Jul 07 21:18:58 <[g2]> mys
Jul 07 21:19:35 <NAiL> from unstable? I forgot to bump the rev, so the one in the feed should have been -r2 
Jul 07 21:20:02 <[g2]> so -r1 is busted ?
Jul 07 21:20:09 <[g2]> or just the /var/state issue
Jul 07 21:20:24 <NAiL> Trying to figure that out right now ;)
Jul 07 21:21:25 <NAiL> What annoys me is that I need to add another user for mysql to work properly
Jul 07 21:21:43 <[g2]> 050708  0:21:13 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't change to run as user 'mysql' ;  Please check that the user exists!
Jul 07 21:21:49 <[g2]> like that :)
Jul 07 21:21:57 <NAiL> exactly
Jul 07 21:24:41 <[g2]> 050708  0:24:13 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
Jul 07 21:25:33 <[g2]> I'd *love* to be have all this stuff working cross :)
Jul 07 21:25:47 <[g2]> well time for me to get some sleep :)
Jul 07 21:25:55 <[g2]> sweet dreams all
Jul 07 21:26:01 <[g2]> I'll check the logs in my AM
Jul 07 21:26:25 <dyoung-web> nite
Jul 07 21:26:47 <[g2]> thx
Jul 07 21:26:55 <[g2]> thx for the help
Jul 07 21:27:04 <dyoung-web> I didnt help yet
Jul 07 21:27:13 <NAiL> heh
Jul 07 21:33:36 <dyoung-web> name resolution failure for monotone.vanille.de ,
Jul 07 21:33:38 <dyoung-web> sigh
Jul 07 21:46:32 <jacques> monotone.vanille.de.    86384   IN      A       141.2.14.64
Jul 07 21:46:53 <NAiL> 64 bytes from gandalf.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (141.2.14.64): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=51.3 ms
Jul 07 21:47:10 <NAiL> It resolves fine here
Jul 07 21:48:34 <CIA-8> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r2f1743e9... 10/packages/base-passwd/base-passwd-3.5.9/openslug/root-home.patch: Added mysql user on openslug.
Jul 07 21:48:35 <CIA-8> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r31d63429... 10/packages/base-passwd/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added mysql user and group with correct (reserved) UID/GID 64001.
Jul 07 21:48:35 <CIA-8> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r45e454c9... 10/packages/base-passwd/base-passwd-3.5.9/openslug/root-home.patch: disapproval of revision 2f1743e92702157825472dc273d473dec4d387cd
Jul 07 21:49:13 <NAiL> heh... they didn't show up in the right order
Jul 07 22:04:26 <jacques> is anyone using monoton 0.20 ?
Jul 07 22:04:30 <jacques> monotone
Jul 07 22:09:54 <NAiL> not that I know... 
Jul 07 22:11:41 <jacques> according to gentoo it's not backwards compatible with 0.19
Jul 07 22:12:10 <jacques> it told me that *after* I had emerged 0.20
Jul 07 22:14:59 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 07 22:15:08 <NAiL> don't know when we're gonna switch to 0.20
Jul 07 22:15:26 <jacques> I was under the impression that it fixed some serious issues we were seeing 
Jul 07 22:15:36 <jacques> but then again I didn't know about the lack of compatibility
Jul 07 22:15:44 <NAiL> afaik, it does. But apparently breaks compatibility
Jul 07 22:17:14 <jacques> anyone seen jbowler?
Jul 07 22:23:00 * NAiL continues being negative. "Not that I know"
Jul 07 23:44:25 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/sqlite.mk: upstream upgrade from 3.2.1 to 3.2.2
Jul 07 23:59:54 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/monotone.mk: upstream upgrade from 0.19 to 0.20
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