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Jul 16 05:13:12 <rwhitby> Anyone seen one of these: http://www.myfmstation.com/html/linex_usb.html ?
Jul 16 05:18:55 <[cc]smart> argh, what this now: monotone: warning: caught bad_decode exception decoding input from peer monotone.nslu2-linux.org: 'protocol version mismatch: wanted '4' got '5''
Jul 16 05:19:58 <[cc]smart> rwhitby: i don't see sense in this
Jul 16 05:20:10 <[cc]smart> you connect it to you PC via usb
Jul 16 05:20:18 <[cc]smart> probably means your PC should be switched on too.
Jul 16 05:20:20 <[cc]smart> :)
Jul 16 05:20:28 <[cc]smart> so why not have you pc stream it ?
Jul 16 05:20:34 <dyoung> huh?
Jul 16 05:20:50 <rwhitby> [cc]smart: did you see the messages here and on the mailing list about the monotone server upgrade?
Jul 16 05:20:51 <dyoung> stream stuff from slug over FM radio?
Jul 16 05:21:04 <[cc]smart> ah
Jul 16 05:21:04 <rwhitby> [cc]smart: connect it to the slug instead of a PC
Jul 16 05:21:06 <[cc]smart> eek
Jul 16 05:21:06 <[cc]smart> stop
Jul 16 05:21:18 <[cc]smart> misunderstood what its about
Jul 16 05:21:21 <[cc]smart> :D
Jul 16 05:21:39 <[cc]smart> slug could stream it just as well
Jul 16 05:21:54 <[cc]smart> but it's the FM part rwhitby is interested in
Jul 16 05:22:07 <rwhitby> yes, and this is how the slug becomes a radio transmitter
Jul 16 05:22:28 <[cc]smart> i'm ot sure though if i thought this is really what i'd want
Jul 16 05:22:39 <[cc]smart> if you want the sound for your fixed stereo
Jul 16 05:22:53 <[cc]smart> you'd prolly better use on of those USB audio cards
Jul 16 05:23:19 <[cc]smart> if you look at the mbile side, add wireless headphones :)
Jul 16 05:24:19 <[cc]smart> what i was about to try is adding a USB soundcard to the slug myself
Jul 16 05:24:28 <[cc]smart> and connect that to the stereo
Jul 16 05:24:32 <[cc]smart> what is missing is the interface
Jul 16 05:24:43 <[cc]smart> i'v got dect telephone handsets here
Jul 16 05:24:47 <[cc]smart> the support wap
Jul 16 05:25:10 <[cc]smart> so i thought, nifty as is, i'd use the asterisk instalation (this is where the dect phones go to)
Jul 16 05:25:19 <rwhitby> dyoung: did you bump the PR?
Jul 16 05:25:22 <[cc]smart> i'd set up my own mini isp with asterisk ppp support
Jul 16 05:25:37 <dyoung> nope
Jul 16 05:25:47 <[cc]smart> so i could use the dect/wap telephone handsets to control music playing of the slug
Jul 16 05:25:58 <[cc]smart> but i couldn't make asterisk and handesets work together so far
Jul 16 05:26:17 <[cc]smart> so i left the usb soundcard journey out
Jul 16 05:26:29 <dyoung> PR bump on openslug-kernel is it?
Jul 16 05:27:28 <rwhitby> probably on nslu2-kernel
Jul 16 05:28:45 <dyoung> bumped.
Jul 16 05:29:04 <rwhitby> heh, me too - let's see what monotone does with it ...
Jul 16 05:30:24 <dyoung> dual heads eh
Jul 16 05:30:42 <dyoung> but theres only one rev...
Jul 16 05:31:57 <rwhitby> dyoung: the master makefile is set up to handle multiple heads
Jul 16 05:33:12 <dyoung> okay.  So are we okay?  the file is in there?
Jul 16 05:34:11 <rwhitby> should be in there, and the PR should be bumped too
Jul 16 05:35:00 <dyoung> Okay cool, because my brain turned off at least an hour ago.
Jul 16 05:35:57 <rwhitby> just fixing CIA now
Jul 16 05:36:24 <rwhitby> ok, who created org.openembedded.nslu2-linux.testing ?????
Jul 16 05:36:58 <rwhitby> hmm - maybe it's just in the CIA database ...
Jul 16 05:42:40 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r0bf7a652... 10/Makefile: Updated for monotone 0.20
Jul 16 05:42:55 <CIA-8> 03dyoung 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rd20d02a1... 10/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel/2.6.12/nslu2-setup.c: Change it to the new serial driver model, enabling serial console
Jul 16 05:43:00 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r64742a62... 10/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb: 
Jul 16 05:43:00 <CIA-8> Bumped the PR
Jul 16 05:43:00 <CIA-8> bump the pr
Jul 16 05:43:53 <rwhitby> ok, CIA should be working again now
Jul 16 05:44:00 <rwhitby> just had to update it for 0.20 syntax
Jul 16 05:47:13 <NAiL> ah
Jul 16 05:47:21 <NAiL> serial is now working in 2.6.12.2?
Jul 16 05:47:30 <NAiL> (.2)
Jul 16 05:47:57 <rwhitby> NAiL: just about to verify that.  dyoung vouches for it, which is good enough for ,e
Jul 16 05:47:59 <rwhitby> me
Jul 16 05:48:03 <NAiL> yeah
Jul 16 05:48:10 <NAiL> I'll take a look at that tomorrow
Jul 16 05:48:17 <NAiL> I'm gonna flash both my slugs
Jul 16 05:49:02 <dyoung> it worked for me, but the brain is so dead now, I need verification.
Jul 16 05:49:17 <dyoung> (verify I'm not hallucinating....)
Jul 16 05:49:29 <NAiL> dyoung: you are sleepy. your head feels heavy...
Jul 16 05:49:41 <NAiL> you are unable to keep your eyelids open
Jul 16 05:50:01 <dyoung> aoieucrpow oavwog
Jul 16 05:50:03 <dyoung> ow.
Jul 16 05:50:12 <NAiL> Your head hitting the keyboard? ;)
Jul 16 05:50:13 * dyoung wakes up
Jul 16 05:50:38 <senneth> postfix with dovecot would be nice in openslug :]
Jul 16 05:50:43 <NAiL> dovecot?
Jul 16 05:50:54 <senneth> teh best imap server ever :)
Jul 16 05:50:58 <senneth> *hides*
Jul 16 05:50:58 <NAiL> aha
Jul 16 05:51:13 <NAiL> written by you? :P
Jul 16 05:51:18 <senneth> not really :)
Jul 16 05:51:21 <NAiL> heh
Jul 16 05:51:32 <NAiL> postfix is in openslug unstable anyway
Jul 16 05:51:41 <senneth> ahh cool
Jul 16 05:51:42 <NAiL> So it's just to add dovecot then
Jul 16 05:51:55 <NAiL> In unstable, mind you
Jul 16 05:52:11 <NAiL> I haven't had the time to test postfix enough to trust it in stable yet.
Jul 16 05:52:23 <senneth> i've managed to compile dovecot on unslung so there should be no problems
Jul 16 05:52:36 <NAiL> cool
Jul 16 05:53:11 <NAiL> Haven't tried dovecot, but it might be nice. I'm using imap for my mail
Jul 16 05:53:17 <senneth> and it's able to use epoll as the io-loop when the kernel is a 2.6
Jul 16 05:53:30 <NAiL> what about fam?
Jul 16 05:53:49 <senneth> hum?
Jul 16 05:53:54 <NAiL> file alteration monitor
Jul 16 05:54:11 <NAiL> Think that's what cyrus uses
Jul 16 05:54:25 <rwhitby> dyoung: running reflash now ...
Jul 16 05:54:52 <senneth> dunno, have to look that up
Jul 16 05:55:07 <NAiL> oh well.. Gotta go anyway
Jul 16 05:57:17 <senneth> the main advantage is the authentication i think, you can use /etc/passwd or a virtual passwd file or vpopmail and stuff
Jul 16 05:57:22 <DaKa2> dovecot is really great
Jul 16 05:57:57 <senneth> It's optimized to use very little memory aswell
Jul 16 05:58:06 <DaKa2> exactly, perfect for the slug
Jul 16 05:58:24 <DaKa2> Im using it on all my mailservers
Jul 16 05:58:29 <rwhitby> ooh - testing turnup ramf for the first time ...
Jul 16 06:04:44 <rwhitby> rebooting ...
Jul 16 06:04:45 <dyoung> so I guess it worked?
Jul 16 06:05:04 <rwhitby> just about to find out ...
Jul 16 06:05:30 <rwhitby> oh YEAH baby!
Jul 16 06:06:00 <rwhitby> verified.  sweet dreams dyoung!
Jul 16 06:06:01 <NAiL> ~emulate rwhitby
Jul 16 06:06:01 <jbot> Well, my work here is done.
Jul 16 06:06:07 <NAiL> hmm.. wrong one
Jul 16 06:06:33 <dyoung> cool.
Jul 16 06:06:37 <dyoung> ~emulate rwhitby
Jul 16 06:06:38 <jbot> Well, my work here is done.
Jul 16 06:06:43 <rwhitby> heh
Jul 16 06:06:53 <NAiL> No more satisfied customers
Jul 16 06:06:58 <dyoung-zzzz> ~emulate rwhitby
Jul 16 06:06:58 <jbot> Well, my work here is done.
Jul 16 06:07:07 <rwhitby> ~emulate rwhitby
Jul 16 06:07:10 <dyoung-zzzz> ~literal emulate rwhitby
Jul 16 06:07:10 <NAiL> ~emulate rwhitby
Jul 16 06:07:11 <jbot> "emulate rwhitby" is "<reply> Another Satisfied Customer! || <reply> Well, my work here is done."
Jul 16 06:07:11 <jbot> Another Satisfied Customer!
Jul 16 06:07:22 <dyoung-zzzz> slap jbot
Jul 16 06:07:28 <NAiL> There :)
Jul 16 06:07:52 <DaKa2> NOTE: package perl-native-5.8.4-r0: task do_compile: started
Jul 16 06:07:59 <DaKa2> this is so not going to work..
Jul 16 06:08:06 <dyoung-zzzz> Enjoy. :-)
Jul 16 06:08:39 <rwhitby> dyoung-zzzz: as soon as the reboot problem is solved, then that's a binary release candidate in my book ....
Jul 16 06:10:30 * NAiL agrees
Jul 16 06:10:48 <NAiL> But there's one thing I'd like to get clarified before a new release
Jul 16 06:11:53 <NAiL> The address to the feeds... Is there any reason why there shouldn't be openslug/<version>/stable and openslug/<version>/unstable?
Jul 16 06:12:11 <NAiL> Except making the package managers job harder...
Jul 16 06:13:21 <NAiL> Because when a new release comes out, we would want it to pull from the stable feed. But there's been glibc/kernel changes since the original stable feed.
Jul 16 06:14:05 <rwhitby> NAiL: that's your call.  we'll push and pull from whatever feed structure you require :-0
Jul 16 06:14:20 <DaKa2> why not openslug/<version> as the stable, and openslug/unstable for the unstable?
Jul 16 06:14:48 <NAiL> DaKa2: not a bad idea. I think I had one hitch with that setup earlier though
Jul 16 06:15:00 <NAiL> Can't remember what that was
Jul 16 06:15:09 <NAiL> I'll think about it over dinner
Jul 16 06:15:26 <DaKa2> I really cannot see the need for versioned unstables, but I may be missing something
Jul 16 06:15:39 <NAiL> no, you're right actually
Jul 16 06:15:41 <NAiL> ok
Jul 16 06:15:47 <rwhitby> unstable should always match the latest bleeding edge monotone
Jul 16 06:15:52 <NAiL> exactly
Jul 16 06:15:59 <DaKa2> exactly exactly
Jul 16 06:16:02 <NAiL> so unstable is always the same
Jul 16 06:16:11 <[cc]smart> no, unstable is never the same :)
Jul 16 06:16:12 <NAiL> only stable needs a version number
Jul 16 06:16:25 <NAiL> heh, unstable is in flux, but the *path* is always the same, you nitpicker :p
Jul 16 06:16:31 <DaKa2> exactly :-)
Jul 16 06:16:33 <[cc]smart> hrhr
Jul 16 06:16:33 <rwhitby> so feeds/openslug/2.2-beta and feeds/openslug/unstable
Jul 16 06:16:39 <NAiL> exactly
Jul 16 06:16:48 <NAiL> Will the release be 2.2-beta?
Jul 16 06:17:07 <rwhitby> no, cause we currently have 2.2-beta, so we need to increment on release
Jul 16 06:17:14 <NAiL> yeah
Jul 16 06:17:25 <rwhitby> numbers are cheap.  increment early and increment often
Jul 16 06:17:30 <NAiL> :)
Jul 16 06:18:55 <NAiL> I'd like to know the number beforehand, so I can update the .conf-file so it pulls from the right stable feed from the beginning
Jul 16 06:19:07 <DaKa2> Im actually starting to think my native package build of perl is going to work..
Jul 16 06:19:10 <DaKa2> scarry
Jul 16 06:19:41 <rwhitby> NAiL: we will change the openslug.conf file to use the variable
Jul 16 06:20:00 <rwhitby> so it will automatically be correct
Jul 16 06:20:21 <NAiL> rwhitby: ah, good
Jul 16 06:20:42 * NAiL goes off to deliver flowers and meet my gf's mom for dinner ;-)
Jul 16 06:20:56 <rwhitby> just use DISTRO_VERSION in FEED_URIS....
Jul 16 06:21:28 <rwhitby> NAiL: are you going to have "cross" and "native" in the feed uri too ?
Jul 16 06:22:12 <NAiL> rwhitby: I can't see why that should be necessary
Jul 16 06:22:19 <rwhitby> feeds/openslug/cross/2.2-beta, feeds/openslug/native/2.2-beta, feeds/openslug/cross/unstable, feeds/openslug/native/unstable
Jul 16 06:22:27 <NAiL> or...
Jul 16 06:22:29 <NAiL> yes
Jul 16 06:22:43 <NAiL> it makes the pushing a heck of a lot easier
Jul 16 06:22:50 <NAiL> but from the user side there shouldn't be any diff
Jul 16 06:22:55 <rwhitby> it's what we do for unslung ...
Jul 16 06:23:03 <NAiL> yes, thanks
Jul 16 06:23:50 <NAiL> Ok, thanks for the input all. Taxi outside, gotta go 
Jul 16 06:23:56 <rwhitby> bye
Jul 16 06:23:59 <NAiL> I'll look at it later tonight
Jul 16 06:27:01 <[cc]smart> taxi ? he's got plans.... :D
Jul 16 06:27:33 <[cc]smart> wow, ferakin shit. these thunders get hefty
Jul 16 06:30:34 <[cc]smart> and again i say, these are not the weathers i know from 10 years and back...
Jul 16 06:55:54 * rwhitby-away attempts to run "make setup" with the master makefile, on a slug ...
Jul 16 06:56:35 <DaKa2> I did that, and noticed there was no subversion
Jul 16 06:56:56 <DaKa2> then I just copied everything over instead
Jul 16 06:58:41 <rwhitby-away> I'll let this run overnight and see if it finishes the monotone setup ...
Jul 16 06:59:28 <[g2]-away> rwhitby I like that /root idea too
Jul 16 07:00:44 <rwhitby-asleep> [g2]-away: yeah, unless there are objections I will implement that tomorrow.
Jul 16 07:01:11 <[g2]-away> rwhitby-asleep, not from me :)
Jul 16 07:01:51 <rwhitby-asleep> night all
Jul 16 07:27:35 <NAiL> I can't see any reasonable objections to moving ~root either
Jul 16 07:52:35 <NAiL> hmm.. how do I put two feed lines in the config?
Jul 16 07:52:48 <NAiL> FEED_URIS_append_linux += "oe##http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/native/${DISTRO_VERSION}"
Jul 16 07:52:57 <NAiL> Just have two lines like that?
Jul 16 07:54:45 <NAiL> Not sure how it is parsed
Jul 16 07:58:21 <DaKa2> different names
Jul 16 07:58:28 <DaKa2> both cannot be called oe
Jul 16 08:02:13 <NAiL> aha
Jul 16 08:02:14 <NAiL> yes
Jul 16 08:02:37 <NAiL> so I just need to change the name## part, and add another line 
Jul 16 08:03:01 <DaKa2> should work
Jul 16 08:18:59 <[cc]smart> this changes fast than i can comply with
Jul 16 08:19:08 <[cc]smart> ok 'ive updated monotone
Jul 16 08:19:14 <[cc]smart> and am back on this
Jul 16 08:19:39 <[cc]smart> now i made my bitbake openslug-image and i get a seemengly completely different result
Jul 16 08:19:55 <[cc]smart> i don't get a flashdisk.img
Jul 16 08:20:31 <[cc]smart> ah one sec
Jul 16 08:20:36 <[cc]smart> me blind
Jul 16 08:20:39 <[cc]smart> error occurde
Jul 16 08:20:41 <DaKa2> :)
Jul 16 08:21:24 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 16 08:21:38 * NAiL wonders what revs were written when he synced just now
Jul 16 08:21:45 <DaKa2> /usr/lib/ipkg/info/bzip2.postinst: line 3: ldconfig: command not found
Jul 16 08:21:55 <DaKa2> uhm.. that looks a bit strange..
Jul 16 08:22:05 <DaKa2> ahh
Jul 16 08:22:12 <DaKa2> no sbin in path
Jul 16 09:05:39 <CIA-8> 03marceln * 10unslung/Makefile: Added an target for make/%.mk which generates the makefile from the template.
Jul 16 09:51:16 <jbowler-away> NAiL: look in conf/distro/openslug.conf at the commented out lines, the name is, so far as I can see, arbitrary.  E.g. ${DISTRO_NAME}-${DISTRO_VERSION} should be fine.
Jul 16 10:44:15 <[cc]smart> ah finally
Jul 16 10:49:41 <CIA-8> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r75cf64dd... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added new populate script for directory creation during startup.
Jul 16 10:49:43 <CIA-8> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r685decee... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Moved populate-volatile to suggested place.
Jul 16 10:49:46 <CIA-8> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r42c8721f... 10/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Changed to use populate-volatile.sh.
Jul 16 10:53:00 <[cc]smart> this makes an update to turnup necessary which will follow soonish
Jul 16 10:54:32 <[g2]-away> [cc]smart, I've got two tweaks for turnup
Jul 16 10:54:49 <[g2]-away> I can send them your way 
Jul 16 11:04:14 <[cc]smart> ok.
Jul 16 11:04:19 <[cc]smart> you have the adress ?
Jul 16 11:04:28 <[cc]smart> or pastebin
Jul 16 11:06:49 <[g2]-away> [cc]smart, here
Jul 16 11:06:56 <[g2]-away>                 read_one "Third DNS server" network dns_server3
Jul 16 11:06:56 <[g2]-away>                 echo "Appending $ip_addr $disk_server_name to /etc/hosts"
Jul 16 11:06:56 <[g2]-away>                 echo "$ip_addr       $disk_server_name" >> /etc/hosts
Jul 16 11:06:56 <[g2]-away>                 ;;
Jul 16 11:06:56 <[g2]-away>         dhcp)   echo "Appending $disk_server_name to localhost line in /etc/hosts"
Jul 16 11:06:57 <[g2]-away>                 sed -i -e "s/localhost\$/localhost $disk_server_name/" /etc/hosts;;
Jul 16 11:06:59 <[g2]-away>         *)      bootproto=dhcp;;
Jul 16 11:07:01 <[g2]-away>    
Jul 16 11:07:25 <[g2]-away> those 4 lines gett added around line 753
Jul 16 11:08:14 <[g2]-away> basically in either the static case or dhcp case it updates the /etc/hosts file with the name of the host
Jul 16 11:10:12 <[g2]-away> thx
Jul 16 11:34:07 <[cc]smart> ok
Jul 16 11:34:18 <[cc]smart> i will add this ina second rev
Jul 16 12:32:53 <[cc]smart> [g2]-away: ping
Jul 16 12:48:58 <CIA-8> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rbc6e966f... 10/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init-0.10/turnup openslug-init_0.10.bb): Modified to work with populate-var and allow per target (nfs,disk...) definition of ramfs objects.
Jul 16 12:49:01 <CIA-8> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rb810c896... 10/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init-0.10/turnup openslug-init_0.10.bb): Adding own hostname to hosts. Offered by [g2].
Jul 16 14:35:01 <jbowler-away> NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate);
Jul 16 14:35:01 <jbowler-away> NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/armeb-linux-libc-for-gcc
Jul 16 14:35:19 <jbowler-away> Anyone who understands this enough to say what the correct setting is?
Jul 16 15:39:02 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rdbffb700... 10/ (25 files in 16 dirs): 
Jul 16 15:39:02 <CIA-8> propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 50712da157ce819a41034d91e842f659f060e42e)
Jul 16 15:39:02 <CIA-8>  to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head b810c89693fd745a4fd808082ffac3a03e1223c4)
Jul 16 15:53:44 <rwhitby> monotone.nslu2-linux.org is now only serving: org.nslu2-linux.dev. org.openembedded.dev and org.openembedded.nslu2-linux
Jul 16 15:55:29 <rwhitby> that should be "org.nslu2-linux.dev  org.openembedded.dev org.openembedded.nslu2-linux"
Jul 16 15:55:38 <rwhitby> I wonder if we need to serve the dreambox branch too ?
Jul 16 15:58:07 <jbowler> The following works for push/pull/serve: 'org.{nslu2-linux.*,openembedded.{dev,dreambox,nslu2-linux}}'
Jul 16 16:00:51 <rwhitby> done
Jul 16 16:14:26 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r4945900d... 10/packages/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Fix the missing quotes round string values.
Jul 16 19:09:03 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r9c0cb9ee... 10/packages/install/ (files/install-sh install-native_0.1.bb): Add support for -p and -D options to install.
Jul 16 19:54:00 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r0b04419b... 10/packages/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
Jul 16 19:54:00 <CIA-8> propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head 9c0cb9eef455eaf3c4cb9e1631ed1443ce6346e9)
Jul 16 19:54:00 <CIA-8>  to branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 346829af6aefe4d64d7bb7070d99f5e9bf3d5e49)
Jul 16 20:54:14 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r9750f55a... 10/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Moved OpenSlug root home directory from /home/root to simply /root
Jul 16 20:54:16 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r9a6d9077... 10/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: Fixed the OpenSlug root move
Jul 16 21:34:08 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rd3dcb0c3... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: util-linux does not build on uclibc (fails in do_install step).
Jul 16 22:25:25 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added ocaml and unison
Jul 16 22:30:12 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/Makefile: ocaml ready for native testing, including ocamlopt but not ocamlopt.opt
Jul 16 22:53:51 <jtucker> leave
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