**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 10 23:59:56 2005 Aug 11 00:23:21 is it really necessary to compile EVERY locale of glic Aug 11 00:23:25 glibc Aug 11 00:24:59 no it's not, but it's not a technical issue Aug 11 00:25:13 it's more of a policy issue on oe's part Aug 11 00:26:34 it's a policy issue that seems to take about 9 hours ;) Aug 11 00:27:16 only 9hrs? you must have a faster machine than me! Aug 11 00:29:05 well, it hasn't finished, but it has been running overnight Aug 11 00:30:03 hmm, is this a native compile? Aug 11 00:38:35 must be Aug 11 00:52:51 ka6sox - no, a cross-compile Aug 11 00:54:38 blaster8, what's your hardware? glibc shouldn't take more than about an hour Aug 11 00:55:10 maybe something's wrong Aug 11 03:41:53 jp30-work:ping Aug 11 03:42:27 jp30: windoer if you could answer a question. I installed php-apache a couple of weeks ago and obviously it installed php as part of that package. Aug 11 03:42:46 the libphp5.so file is isntalled by this in /opt/libexec Aug 11 03:43:32 I am trying to build a package against the libphp5.so and when I stage php-stage it builds libphp5.so in staging/opt/lib ratehr than staging/opt/libexec Aug 11 03:44:05 which is the correct location? and how shoudl I distribute the package when php has already been installed by php-apache? Aug 11 03:44:40 what's the situation here? Aug 11 04:27:49 can anyone with admin access to the CVS repository give me a hand for 5 mins. Aug 11 04:58:08 copperbeech: what seems to be the problem Aug 11 04:58:51 well I have some files I want to add to the repository... having read cvs manuals for some hours I tried to add some new files, but it said I didn't have write access. Aug 11 04:59:03 rwhitby said he put me on the write access list yesterday. Aug 11 04:59:22 how was it checked ot? Aug 11 04:59:24 out? Aug 11 04:59:49 also the cvs status is a little opaque (may be because I don't know what to expect and how to read it) and I need someone to check my work and make sure I don't overwite stuff I souldnt etc. Aug 11 05:00:20 cd nslu Aug 11 05:00:22 cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/nslu co unslung Aug 11 05:00:55 I have some files in a new folder called unslung/sources/appweb/2.0.3 which I was trying to add and commit. Aug 11 05:02:16 you need to check them out with ssh. Aug 11 05:02:23 mcneillm@copperian:~/nslu2/unslung/sources/appweb/2.0.3$ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:mat Aug 11 05:02:24 the pserver type does not allow writes Aug 11 05:02:25 _mcneill@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/nslu add * Aug 11 05:02:27 cvs add: cannot add special file `CVS'; skipping Aug 11 05:02:28 cvs [server aborted]: "add" requires write access to the repository Aug 11 05:02:50 ok, ok - going to need to do key stuff etc? Aug 11 05:03:08 I do have a putty key for sourceforge already Aug 11 05:03:24 are you using the master makefile? Aug 11 05:04:19 well I probably need to do an update to that, but I was giong to ask someone else to assist with it. Firstly I just want to update an existing makefile. Aug 11 05:04:25 (for a package) Aug 11 05:04:51 Later I want to add a new package (which I guess will affect the master make file) Aug 11 05:04:54 um... Okay since youre using putty, I think I'll assume the answer is no Aug 11 05:05:19 well all using putty means is that I have to transfer the key to my linux box Aug 11 05:05:34 are you developing on your linux box or your windows box? Aug 11 05:06:30 I am developing on a debian box Aug 11 05:06:48 Okay, lets work with that for now then, Aug 11 05:06:49 ... but I already have some sourceforge projects for windows under my ID Aug 11 05:07:00 the master makefile is for building all nsul2-linux related projects. Aug 11 05:07:01 which is why my key is in putty Aug 11 05:07:07 yep Aug 11 05:07:09 if you dont know what it is, youre not using it Aug 11 05:07:23 I do know what it is and I think I do need to edit it to add a new package. Aug 11 05:07:31 No you dont. Aug 11 05:07:32 but that's stage #2 Aug 11 05:07:46 in fact you dont have write access to the master makefile. Aug 11 05:08:07 you do however have write access to the unslung/optware top level makefile. Aug 11 05:08:13 and that you WILL need to add to. Aug 11 05:08:32 ok... I see the difference now. Aug 11 05:08:50 So am I right in assuming you are not yet using the master makefile? Aug 11 05:09:10 yes - I don't need access beyone the common make file for adding a new package... Aug 11 05:09:23 Okay. now that thats straight... :-) Aug 11 05:10:15 :-) Aug 11 05:10:31 the command you want is cvs -d :ext:copperbeach@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/nslu co unslung Aug 11 05:10:52 ok - I need to save out all the files I have changed then.... Aug 11 05:11:06 you may have to set a envirnment variable CVS_RSH to ssh. Aug 11 05:11:09 then do all the rebuilding of the toolchains again etc? Aug 11 05:11:22 if you have time on your hands. Aug 11 05:11:34 if not, the mv unslung unslung.pserver Aug 11 05:12:03 the re-check it out using your dev key. Aug 11 05:12:37 and in theory ( I havnt actually done this yet ), you should be able to cp/mv your unslung.pserver/toolchain to unslung. Aug 11 05:12:44 and avoid rebuilding it. Aug 11 05:12:49 yep Aug 11 05:13:13 ok ... lets try this and see how we go... Aug 11 05:13:18 move build* and packages* over too, and nothing will rebuild :-) Aug 11 05:13:42 we seem to be a pretty lazy bunch. Aug 11 05:13:44 oh, and staging* too Aug 11 05:13:45 :-) Aug 11 05:14:07 the best programmers are lazy :-) Aug 11 05:14:14 or just use the master makefile and run "make setup-optware-developer" Aug 11 05:14:20 once thats all squared away, you should be able to retrieve your edited/chaged/added files to the new place and cvs add them. Aug 11 05:14:58 rwhitby-away: I was about to suggest that too if copperbeach was ready for using the master makefile. Aug 11 05:15:10 what does that do :-? Aug 11 05:16:24 set you up the same as everyone else, so we can answer questions much simpler in the future :-) Aug 11 05:16:52 if you do that, you'll need to set a environment variable CVS_USER to mcneill if your login isnt that. Aug 11 05:17:11 if you read the master makefile its pretty apparent what it does. Aug 11 05:17:56 ok... is that unslung/Makefile ? Aug 11 05:18:39 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile Aug 11 05:18:44 copperbeech: check "NSLU2-Linux Development" on the wiki sidebar Aug 11 05:19:46 I see - a meta-build system Aug 11 05:19:55 jbot, nslu2-master-makefile is http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile Aug 11 05:19:56 okay, dyoung Aug 11 05:20:00 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.bitbake * rfbb1b9d9... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Updated to SVN revision 308 Aug 11 05:20:13 I think it's actually a meta-meta-meta-build system Aug 11 05:20:17 ~nslu2-master-makefile Aug 11 05:20:17 methinks nslu2-master-makefile is http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile Aug 11 05:22:45 dyoung: should we use linestack_file instead of linestack_memory in ctrlproxy? Aug 11 05:23:15 I'm remembering that one or more of the linkstack modules wasnt there. Aug 11 05:23:21 but yes, its probably a good idea. Aug 11 05:23:41 I was still in testing mode; seeing what goes funny... Aug 11 05:23:55 so you're now a willing test subject. :-) Aug 11 05:24:14 ok: now rebuilding the packages for testing in the new tree. Aug 11 05:24:50 copperbeech: so you're using the master makefile now? Aug 11 05:25:24 no - I think dyoung suggested the "cvs co unslung" so I'm just building the packages. Aug 11 05:26:05 make Aug 11 05:26:17 :wq Aug 11 05:26:20 oops Aug 11 05:26:38 dyoung: ctrlproxy -D -r /etc/ctrlproxy/ctrlproxy.conf Aug 11 05:26:53 rwhitby: that last commit of yours... that is bitbake? Aug 11 05:26:53 * rwhitby waits for rwhitby-proxy to arrive ... Aug 11 05:26:55 what -D -r do ? Aug 11 05:27:03 NAiL: yep - updating it to latest Aug 11 05:27:17 ok :) Aug 11 05:27:28 make import-bitbake ; cd bitbake ; mt commit ; cd .. ; make push-bitbake Aug 11 05:27:41 dyoung: -D is daemon, -r is conf file. Aug 11 05:27:52 Let's use /etc/ctrlproxy, and put the keys in there too Aug 11 05:27:52 dyoung: packages rebuild and packaged fine... Aug 11 05:28:09 what I need to do is the folloeing 3 things: Aug 11 05:28:24 1) update unslung/make/appweb.mk Aug 11 05:28:40 2) add unslung/make/appweb-php.mk Aug 11 05:28:58 Woo! Aug 11 05:28:59 3) add a folder with some files in to unslung/sources/appweb Aug 11 05:29:10 I didnt know about daemon mode. I been running it piped through a doo-dad. Aug 11 05:29:18 I guess need to do #3 first Aug 11 05:31:53 dyoung: linestack_file.so don't exist. any idea why? Aug 11 05:36:19 ok am about to execute the following to do #3 - does it look sane? Aug 11 05:36:21 cd ~/nslu2/unslung/sources/appweb Aug 11 05:36:22 cvs -d:ext:matt_mcneill@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/nslu add -r -m 'new files for appweb 2.0.x' 2.0.3/ Aug 11 05:36:24 cd 2.0.3/ Aug 11 05:36:26 cvs -d:ext:matt_mcneill@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/nslu commit * Aug 11 05:36:52 copperbeech: why create a new subdir? Aug 11 05:37:22 and you don't need the -d option in any directory which has ./CVS in it. Aug 11 05:37:37 I dunno why yet. Aug 11 05:37:43 I was still looking into it. Aug 11 05:38:03 I may have simply un-configured it out. Aug 11 05:38:06 * dyoung dunnos Aug 11 05:38:26 copperbeech: in general we haven't had that extra level of subdir under sources. Do you absolutely need it? Aug 11 05:38:45 Can those files just go under sources/appweb directly? Aug 11 05:38:57 rwhitby: no, I was just being paranoid... I can remove it Aug 11 05:42:15 rebuilding and retesting packages... Aug 11 05:45:27 ok, this is through ctrlproxy now .. Aug 11 05:48:08 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/sources/appweb/ (7 files): updated files for appweb 2.0.3 Aug 11 05:48:55 can I just do cvs commit appweb.mk to do a single file ? Aug 11 05:49:03 yep Aug 11 05:50:38 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: updated appweb to 2.0.3 Aug 11 05:51:29 treo through ctrlproxy Aug 11 05:51:43 * NAiL looks at the commits... who is matt_mcneill? Aug 11 05:52:01 it's me Aug 11 05:52:06 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb-php.mk: added new file for appweb 2.0.3 with php Aug 11 05:52:14 oh :) Aug 11 05:52:35 ok - now what's the protocol for adding appweb-php to the unslung packages list? Aug 11 05:52:49 in the unslung makefile Aug 11 05:53:16 NAiL: Should there be an option in the master makefile for an unslung stable target Aug 11 05:53:17 put it in the testing section Aug 11 05:53:47 blaster8: No idea. I don't do unslung Aug 11 05:53:52 anyone who does? Aug 11 05:54:25 since the kernel version and glibc version never changes, there's not a lot of point in not building the latest. Aug 11 05:54:28 blaster8: No. Its all fixed to a specific version of gcc/glibc and based on fixed linksys sources. so the latest version IS the stable version Aug 11 05:54:29 should I put the new version of appweb in TESTING too? Aug 11 05:55:27 what do you think dyoung? Aug 11 05:55:36 thanks - someone was having issues yesterday and I couldn't sensibly answer that question Aug 11 05:56:37 rwhitby: btw who is responsible for promoting packages from TESTING to PACKAGES in the unslung Makefile? Aug 11 05:56:59 the optware/nslu2 package manager, jp30. Aug 11 05:57:25 the protocol is to add new stuff to testing. Aug 11 05:57:45 ok - what about significant updates to existing packages ? Aug 11 05:58:07 I would consider that "new" . Aug 11 05:58:13 rwhitby: how is ctrlproxy different from miau ? Aug 11 05:58:17 dyoung: thanks Aug 11 06:01:13 "cvs commit: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/nslu/unslung'" what does that mean? Aug 11 06:01:34 trying to "cvs commit Makefile" Aug 11 06:03:27 dunno Aug 11 06:03:51 were you able to commit other files? Aug 11 06:03:59 it worked this time... Aug 11 06:04:11 rwhitby: how is ctrlproxy different from miau ? Aug 11 06:04:23 dunno yet :-) Aug 11 06:04:44 the big thing is the backlog command, but I'm still working out whether that will work for me the way I want. Aug 11 06:05:41 (I want it for the treo, so when I get a phone call, I can get back on IRC and get the last 5 minutes of backlog) Aug 11 06:06:14 I do that with the miau quicklog se to a couple of hours... Aug 11 06:06:35 when I connect back to maiu it just spools it all up as it connects to each of the channels I have set Aug 11 06:07:52 yeah, but on a 12 line screen with less than 50 lines of scrollback, and GPRS charges at $5 per Mb, I need something more controllable Aug 11 06:08:27 you can set it to five mins if you want - but what you're saying is that you need to be able to command it from the prompt? Aug 11 06:08:36 yrp Aug 11 06:08:57 I have it set for an hour for home, but on the phone I need a controllable period Aug 11 06:09:10 yep Aug 11 06:14:35 dyoung: even though ctrlproxy connects to different servers, you have to connect to *it* on different ports to get to them. I was hoping it would somehow collate them onto a single port ... Aug 11 06:19:05 copperbeech: have a look at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/autobuild-nudi-last.txt - appweb has some issues Aug 11 06:24:12 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Demoted madplay again - still breaks the autobuild Aug 11 06:28:09 copperbeech: any reason why it's "appweb-php" and not "php-appweb" (like php-apache and php-thttpd) ? Aug 11 06:32:45 copperbeech: all those ../../../... in appweb-php.mk need to be changed to ${STAGING_INCLUDE_DIR} Aug 11 06:34:55 and when you rename it to php-appweb, you will need to rename APPWEB-PHP to PHP_APPWEB too inside the file (as well as appweb-php renamed to php-appweb inside the file too). Aug 11 06:46:57 yay, nslu2 board still seems to work after giving it a couple of standoffs to sit inside its new case Aug 11 06:47:05 always a good thing Aug 11 07:01:53 out of interest, does anyone know any reason why 2.5" HDs shouldn't be run upside down Aug 11 07:32:30 blaster8: the 1s and 0s fall off the platter if you run them upside down .... down here in Australia we actually have to run all our disks upside down cause we're in the southern hemisphere. Aug 11 07:57:20 llagendijk, ping? Aug 11 08:03:26 rwhitby: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html Aug 11 08:10:10 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r0b40ae52... 10/packages/nail/ (files/nail.spec.diff nail_11.21.bb): Update nail to use /usr/sbin/sendmail instead of /usr/lib/sendmail Aug 11 08:25:31 Cool. These guys are using the Slug for their UAV!! Aug 11 08:25:34 http://www.auvsi.org/competitions/2005/JournalPapers/Uottawa.pdf Aug 11 08:26:09 I remember giving them a demo of the slug at our local robotics club meeting. I guess they really liked it! Aug 11 08:28:00 VoodooZ_Work: wonder if they've removed R83 ? Aug 11 08:28:44 jp30-work pong Aug 11 08:31:03 VoodooZ_Work: I added that link to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/Articles - perhaps you want to create a "Robots" section on that page ... ? Aug 11 08:32:14 actually, I was wondering the same thing! Aug 11 08:32:21 I'll email them to warn them. Aug 11 08:32:36 I guess it's a bit late though as the competition was yesterday and they finished 15th. Aug 11 08:33:23 Yeah, if I can get my new USB I/O (to replace the slow s/w I2C) finished I'll post something. Aug 11 08:37:41 jp30-work pong? Aug 11 08:40:07 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rbf63a8b3... 10/packages/postfix/postfix_2.0.20.bb: Update postfix to use u-a for /usr/sbin/sendmail (Conflict with ssmtp) Aug 11 08:47:37 hi, llagendijk Aug 11 08:48:14 llagendijk, am i right in thinking that you are the maintainer of bind in optware? Aug 11 08:52:05 rwhitby, I made some changes to that link you created. I pointed it directly to their page instead of the UAV association. Please approve site. Aug 11 08:52:37 jp30: ping Aug 11 08:52:41 llagendijk, if so, can you register yourself with slugbug? someone reported a bug in bind, and i would like to assign it to you Aug 11 08:52:46 hi, copperbeech Aug 11 08:53:29 jp30: I have uploaded some .mk files for appweb to bring it up to the latest version, but I'd like to go over the appweb-php.mk file to get your view on it. Aug 11 08:53:44 It was to do with installing the libphp5.so library etc. Aug 11 08:55:08 ok, looking at it now Aug 11 08:56:05 I got a bit confused with the php dependencies. When I built php-stage I get libphp5.so being built in staging/opt/lib Aug 11 08:56:35 but when I installed php-apache recently it installed libphp5.so in /opt/libexec Aug 11 08:57:05 so php-apache also depends on php... so why are the libraries in different places? Aug 11 08:57:49 yes. the libphp5.so built by php-apache is an apache module; the libphp5.so built by php is the php embed SAPI, a free-standing library. Aug 11 08:58:49 ok... so why didn't the ipkg install of appweb install php (including the libphp5.so) that is the stand alone library? Aug 11 08:59:14 at the moment the appweb build script is having to copy the libphp5.so into /opt/lib/ Aug 11 08:59:53 Thumbs up on the web site side bar reorg. Encourages people to help themselves with the faq and search. Aug 11 09:00:45 Speaking of the FAQ and in particular item 30. Are there any firm plans to resolve the issue with upgrading openssh via an ssh session? Aug 11 09:00:56 the php embed SAPI is in the "php-embed" ipk. appweb should depend on that Aug 11 09:01:06 ahhh -ok great Aug 11 09:01:38 out of interest - why are you replacing configure wholesale rather than patching it in appweb-php.mk? Aug 11 09:01:43 also - I was wondering what to use to test the php build... do you have any nasty scripts which test each of the libraries? Aug 11 09:02:01 never thought of that - what would you suggest? Aug 11 09:02:51 how do you normally do patching of make files? It sounds a bit tricky to maintain... ? Aug 11 09:03:43 jp30: I also wondered if you could cast your eye over the php configuration options (particularly the libraries) Aug 11 09:03:45 --with-php5-libs="php5 crypt db z" Aug 11 09:03:55 to test php? how about doing a from-scratch install of mediawiki and phpmyadmin and playing with them. that'll give you a good sense of whether it's fast enough too Aug 11 09:04:40 I'ts not the speed - I think it will be ok, it's trying to test the compatability and correct linkage with php ... but I'll try a phpmyadmin and see what happens. Aug 11 09:05:19 jp-30:btw - I'm registered as copperbeech on slugbug... Aug 11 09:05:20 about patching: just use diff -u to generate a diff between the configure that appWeb came with, and the one you are replacing it with. the only thing you need to avoid is patching generated files (i.e. never patch an autoconf-generated configure) Aug 11 09:06:08 ok - but that would mean I would have to maintain two .mk files anyway just to generate the diff - what's the advantage in that? Aug 11 09:06:31 i think we must be speaking past each other... Aug 11 09:06:57 probably over my head :-) Aug 11 09:07:01 there's a file, configure in sources/appweb, and your .mk file copies it into the appweb build dir at configuration time... Aug 11 09:07:53 i'm suggesting you might generate a patch containing the diffs between appweb's original configure file and the one you are copying in Aug 11 09:08:11 oh yes... that is because the appweb source has had the configure file updated and I need to replace it... I could have patched I suppose, but originally I was going to try and wget it... but my proxy settings dont work through work's firewall. Aug 11 09:08:37 it wasn't a patch so much as an update from the appweb guys. Aug 11 09:08:53 ah, i see. Aug 11 09:09:03 03repvik * r173 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.5-beta/openembedded/packages/ (9 files in 7 dirs): Update postfix, ssmtp, nail, util-linux and coreutils Aug 11 09:09:09 a little bit messy - I know. Aug 11 09:09:55 jp30: do you think the php build flags (into configure) look ok? Aug 11 09:09:56 i think you have probably done the right thing there. Aug 11 09:11:24 you know better than me what the semantics of appweb's configure options are, i think :) it depends what exactly that --with-php5-libs option does Aug 11 09:12:03 do you need to list all the dependencies of libphp5.so? Aug 11 09:12:13 :-) *grins* it was a bit of a guess by me - I guess it is the libraries php needs to build... Aug 11 09:12:26 jp30-work, ok, will do. I am in the process of upgrading my hw, but will look into asap Aug 11 09:12:42 llagendijk, thanks. no big hurry Aug 11 09:12:44 in the --with-php5-iflags directive? Aug 11 09:13:25 copperbeech, if you need to list all the dependencies of libphp5.so, you can find them all out by using objdump -p staging/opt/lib/libphp5.so Aug 11 09:13:39 ok... I was just going from http://www.appwebserver.org/products/appWeb/doc/common/source/packages.html#php Aug 11 09:14:05 ...(and there are more than you listed). however, i'd try using --with-php5-libs="php5" and seeing if it works Aug 11 09:14:32 the ELF library dependency mechanism should take care of the rest Aug 11 09:17:22 ok - am now updating my build... Aug 11 09:26:04 hmm even though I put the depends php-embed it didn't install it when I installed the ipkg (from file) Aug 11 09:26:47 jp30-work: I just have to put depends as "APPWEB-PHP_DEPENDS=openssl php-embed" ? Aug 11 09:26:49 DEPENDS is comma seperated Aug 11 09:26:54 ahh Aug 11 09:27:12 try that... Aug 11 09:27:19 building... Aug 11 09:30:03 ok - working now :-) Aug 11 09:30:18 ... well it's downloaded php-embed anyway :-) Aug 11 09:32:27 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/ncurses.mk: ncurses: use ln -sf to avoid error when restaging Aug 11 09:33:48 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: small fix for make file Aug 11 09:34:34 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb-php.mk: small fixes for php libs Aug 11 09:40:29 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb-php.mk: small fixes for php libs Aug 11 09:41:01 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: removing blank line tabs for emacs Aug 11 09:47:48 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb-php.mk: commented out source code rule duplicated in appweb.mk Aug 11 10:05:05 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rb41e1e0c... 10/packages/meta/ucslugc-packages.bb: Aug 11 10:05:06 ucslugc, UCSLUGC_PACKAGES: make various prerequesite packages explicit in Aug 11 10:05:06 the build list, therefore if the dependent package is removed the Aug 11 10:05:06 prerequisite packages are still built. Aug 11 10:15:47 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb-php.mk: stripped the libraries Aug 11 10:16:24 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: stripped the libraries Aug 11 12:10:36 jbot, test Aug 11 12:10:37 Test Failed! Aug 11 12:32:08 hmm Aug 11 12:32:09 jbot, test Aug 11 12:32:10 Test Passed! Aug 11 12:32:14 phew Aug 11 12:36:37 jbot, test Aug 11 12:36:38 Test Failed! Aug 11 12:37:19 d`oh Aug 11 12:38:21 jbot, test Aug 11 12:38:21 Test Passed! Aug 11 12:38:24 ha Aug 11 12:38:29 hours of fun ;) Aug 11 12:38:31 ~botsnack Aug 11 12:38:31 caplink811_log: aw, gee Aug 11 12:39:00 fontenot, your turn ;-) Aug 11 12:39:26 too bad tim removed roulette Aug 11 12:39:49 you'd say jbot roulette Aug 11 12:39:56 and it's say "click" Aug 11 12:40:04 or "bang" and then kick you from the channel Aug 11 12:40:19 haha Aug 11 12:40:20 :) Aug 11 12:45:07 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:45:07 * jbot watches fontenot pull the trigger: Click! Aug 11 12:45:11 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:45:51 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:45:51 * jbot watches blaster8 pull the trigger: Click! Aug 11 12:46:12 feeling lucky Aug 11 12:46:13 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:46:13 * jbot watches blaster8 pull the trigger: Click! Aug 11 12:47:12 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:47:12 * jbot watches caplink811 pull the trigger: Click! Aug 11 12:47:22 puh Aug 11 12:48:00 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:48:00 * jbot watches caplink811 pull the trigger: Click! Aug 11 12:50:28 no risk, no fun.. Aug 11 12:50:30 jbot, roulette Aug 11 12:50:30 * jbot watches caplink811 pull the trigger: Click! Aug 11 12:50:51 ~botsnack Aug 11 12:50:52 caplink811: aw, gee Aug 11 12:52:24 I think that's just a stock answer now - not the original game Aug 11 12:54:18 the original game took over entire channels Aug 11 13:05:08 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r073419be... 10/packages/ (14 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) Aug 11 13:05:08 This set of changes ensures that TARGET_CC_ARCH is passed reliably to all Aug 11 13:05:08 packages in a build. The change fixes problems in the following packages: Aug 11 13:05:08 binutils{,-cross}_2.15.94.0.1 Aug 11 13:05:08 HOST_CC_ARCH was not being passed to HOST_CC. The problem does Aug 11 13:05:09 not seem to be present in binutils* 2.16, however this version Aug 11 13:05:11 is still used for uClibc builds. Aug 11 13:10:49 jp30-work, ping? Aug 11 13:27:19 llagendijk, pong Aug 11 13:27:59 I have created a Slugbug account, feel free to allocate the bind bug to me. Thanks Aug 11 13:28:22 jp30-work, accountname = llagendijk Aug 11 13:29:06 llagendijk, ok. i think you may wish to mark the bug "won't fix" once you see it; it's about building optware on a MacOS build system Aug 11 13:29:52 jp30-work, ok, I will look into it Aug 11 13:30:39 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rde3c1699... 10/packages/libmad/libmad_0.15.0b.bb: Aug 11 13:30:39 libmad: thumb only (so no PR change): remove the erroneous use of 32 bit Aug 11 13:30:39 ARM assembler when compiling thumb Aug 11 13:30:42 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rccb298ba... 10/packages/libvorbis/libvorbis_1.0.1.bb: Aug 11 13:30:42 libvorbis: thumb only (no PR change): prevent all optimisation to hide an Aug 11 13:30:42 apparent compiler bug (register spilling) when compiling thumb code. Aug 11 13:30:44 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r99bf5683... 10/packages/db/db_4.3.27.bb: Aug 11 13:30:45 db-4: thumb only (no PR bump): prevent the erroneous use of 32 bit arm Aug 11 13:30:47 assembly when compiling thumb instructions. Aug 11 13:30:49 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rf53fd480... 10/ (135 files in 63 dirs): Aug 11 13:30:51 propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head af7da4406babf078f2747a3588cfa451ae711315) Aug 11 13:30:53 to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head 99bf568313454a05bf17df79cb135d7e4bb6c643) Aug 11 13:37:08 llagendijk. i can see that you have registered with slugbug, but you don't appear in the pulldown "assign to" menu! how odd. it is bug #233 - can you visit it and assign it to yourself? Aug 11 13:43:23 jp30-work, ok, I let's see if that works Aug 11 13:49:11 jp30-work, Josh, I can not assign it myself either.... Aug 11 13:49:44 jp30-work: He's not a "developer", so he cannot be assigned bugs Aug 11 13:49:55 in slugbug, that is Aug 11 13:55:51 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rc7dbf3bd... 10/packages/musicpd/mpd_0.11.2.bb: Aug 11 13:55:51 mpd was building, but not necessarily using, it's own local cache of the Aug 11 13:55:51 libmad and libid3tag source. Removing the --enable-mpd-* settings causes Aug 11 13:55:51 it not to build the local source (and it uses the versions in staging). Aug 11 13:56:01 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r823a1ea1... 10/packages/ (musicpd/mpd_0.11.2.bb ppp/ppp_2.4.3.bb): Aug 11 13:56:01 propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 2733583ee4724b13e2625abab589a558da043628) Aug 11 13:56:01 to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head c7dbf3bdc213b3c3f611e1fb56a743c593138db5) Aug 11 13:56:08 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r2860daf5... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Aug 11 13:56:08 Change the NSLU2 kernel build configuration method to allow the Aug 11 13:56:08 configuration override to be specified in the machine.conf rather than Aug 11 13:56:08 hardwiring -mno-thumb-interwork into nslu2-kernel.inc Aug 11 13:56:09 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * ra02108b1... 10/conf/distro/ucslugc.conf: Aug 11 13:56:09 Set -mthumb-interwork on ucslugc builds to allow building (and maybe Aug 11 13:56:11 someday running) of thumb exectuables. Aug 11 13:56:37 I see someone is trying to overtake me in commits ;-) Aug 11 13:59:29 NAiL, does being in the "Developer" group suffice for being a developer? Aug 11 13:59:38 ...slugbugwise that is Aug 11 14:00:08 jp30-work: I have no idea. Aug 11 14:00:27 I know ingeba-away can fix it. Dunno who else can ... Aug 11 14:00:47 hi - i just installed cups from unslung feed on openslug - works fine - is this worth a seperate wiki-page? Aug 11 14:01:31 jp30-work: Yes Aug 11 14:02:11 Joschi: I'd say so. Aug 11 14:02:19 hm, where should i put it? under howtos? or under the openslug section? Aug 11 14:02:30 preferrable, we'd get cups to compile directly in openslug :) Aug 11 14:03:07 I didn't have this idea before... ;) Aug 11 14:03:42 ? Aug 11 14:03:56 btw - when compiling openslug2.5, i got an "internal compiler error" when gcc compiles itself... Aug 11 14:04:09 Joschi: reproducable? Aug 11 14:04:13 yes Aug 11 14:04:28 Does anybody now why appweb.mk gives errors in the unslung package cvs? Aug 11 14:04:40 maybe i should mention i'm compiling in 64bit machine Aug 11 14:04:48 ok, what distro? Aug 11 14:04:53 fc4 Aug 11 14:05:47 Is the distro 64bit as well, or are you running a 32bit distro on a 64bit machine? Aug 11 14:05:56 64bit-distro Aug 11 14:06:25 otherwise it wouldn't matter i think... Aug 11 14:06:26 I think DaKa2 did a successful compile on some 64bit distro Aug 11 14:06:38 no, it shouldn't matter otherwise Aug 11 14:06:50 And I've got ubuntu64 installed on my box Aug 11 14:06:54 i just threw out gcc - then everythink worked fine Aug 11 14:06:58 So I guess I can boot and try a build Aug 11 14:06:59 thanks ingeba-away. can you look into why llagendijk doesn't appear on the list of assignable developers? Aug 11 14:07:21 another little problem was with the ppp package Aug 11 14:07:23 Joschi: File a slugbug. Compile gcc, and attach the log to the bug Aug 11 14:07:28 Yes -- tomorrow - I'm leaving in 5. Will send myself an email about it. Aug 11 14:07:48 ok, i'll do so Aug 11 14:07:50 ingeba-away, thanks Aug 11 14:08:30 ppp-issue: i had to add an index to lib....radius...a manually Aug 11 14:10:06 jp30-work: Fixed with dev. status for llagendijk Aug 11 14:15:41 can i delete an account from slugbug?? Aug 11 14:15:50 i accidently registered twice... Aug 11 14:15:50 Test passed! Aug 11 14:16:10 oops Aug 11 14:17:21 dyoung! morning! Aug 11 14:19:40 ok, bug added Aug 11 14:36:22 NAiL: how do I restart the autobuild (for ucslugc) from scratch? (I changed uclibc, incremental builds will not work). Aug 11 14:38:02 03marceln * 10unslung/ (sources/dump/control make/dump.mk Makefile): Added bzip2 and zlib staging so that build works Aug 11 14:41:19 jbowler: uh, no idea. remove tmp? Aug 11 14:41:25 make clobber-uclibc? Aug 11 14:41:50 Right, but this has to be done somewhere - I don't actually know where the autobuilds are running now... Aug 11 14:42:18 slug homedir on nudi? Aug 11 14:42:21 I think? Aug 11 14:42:30 copperbeech: ping Aug 11 14:42:45 rwhitby:pong Aug 11 14:43:15 did you see my comments about appweb-php (which should be php-appweb) about 9 hours ago? Aug 11 14:43:26 nope... what was that ? Aug 11 14:44:35 [22:58] rwhitby: copperbeech: any reason why it's "appweb-php" and not "php-appweb" (like php-apache and php-thttpd) ? Aug 11 14:44:35 [23:02] rwhitby: copperbeech: all those ../../../... in appweb-php.mk need to be changed to ${STAGING_INCLUDE_DIR} Aug 11 14:44:35 [23:04] rwhitby: and when you rename it to php-appweb, you will need to rename APPWEB-PHP to PHP_APPWEB too inside the file (as well as appweb-php renamed to php-appweb inside the file too). Aug 11 14:45:27 ok... Aug 11 14:48:34 correct names are very important :-) Aug 11 14:50:07 yep - I've written and mandated naming conventions before :-) Aug 11 14:51:45 marceln: the appweb errors have been fixed, but sf.net have a 5 hour delay for the pserver cvs Aug 11 14:52:14 marceln: are you referring to the download overloading? Aug 11 15:00:13 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * re3962f6a... 10/packages/ctorrent/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Updated ctorrent to use the complete extended ctorrent patch set Aug 11 15:03:29 rwhitby: I can't use the shortcut for staging they have to be relative paths for the compilation to work. Aug 11 15:05:28 really? why do they have to be relative? Aug 11 15:06:12 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/sources/appweb/buildutilsfortargetenv.patch: minor fixes for naming and auxiliary tools Aug 11 15:06:33 dunno - it just doesn;t work if they aren't and that's what it sayd in the build instructions. Aug 11 15:07:39 ok, please put that in a comment in the makefile, so no-one else wants to beat you up about it :-) Aug 11 15:11:17 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: updated for minor changes and auxiliary tools Aug 11 15:12:27 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/php-appweb.mk: updated for naming conventions from appweb-php Aug 11 15:15:40 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/php-appweb.mk: added comment about relative paths Aug 11 15:15:52 how do I remove a file from cvs? Aug 11 15:15:59 cvs delete appweb-php ? Aug 11 15:18:54 yep, then commit Aug 11 15:19:21 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb-php.mk: replaced appweb-php with php-appweb Aug 11 15:20:08 and how do I get the latest unslung Makefile to update and then commit? Can I do it on a file basis? Is that the easiest way? Aug 11 15:21:12 BTW: the appweb developers were really interested in getting appweb running on the NSLU2 - they want to write a story on it... Aug 11 15:21:36 I've submitted a good bunch of bugs and patches to them :-) keep em busy Aug 11 15:22:12 copperbeech, "cvs -z3 -q update Makefile"; nice to hear the appweb devs are interested Aug 11 15:22:52 oops - I just did "cvs update ." Aug 11 15:22:59 lost of stuff... Aug 11 15:23:46 rwhitby, copperbeech, i thought that there was a reason for calling the package appweb-php - unlike php-thttpd and php-apache, it does not include php code. rather it is appweb compiled with php support Aug 11 15:24:47 to be honest, i would like to see this package replace the existing appweb. there's no need to have two appweb packages with only differences in how they are configured Aug 11 15:25:02 yeah - I had wondered... but I need my bed - and am on hols for 10 days or so from tomorrow... so does anyone mind if it stays he way it is for a while? Aug 11 15:25:03 jp30-work: agreed Aug 11 15:25:33 well not just how it's configured - you do need to build extra stuff for php integration... Aug 11 15:26:02 let's leave things the way they are and not promote appweb-php until it is ready to be renamed "appweb" Aug 11 15:27:13 <<<<<<< Makefile Aug 11 15:27:14 appweb php-appweb Aug 11 15:27:16 ======= Aug 11 15:27:17 dump \ Aug 11 15:27:19 appweb appweb-php Aug 11 15:27:21 >>>>>>> 1.668 Aug 11 15:27:22 what does this mean in the make file? Aug 11 15:27:44 ok... I'll fix it up Aug 11 15:27:54 jp30-work: agreed Aug 11 15:28:05 copperbeech, it's a conflict - someone added dump while you were adding appweb Aug 11 15:28:27 ok Aug 11 15:39:45 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/php-appweb.mk: obsolete now PHP is part of appweb standard Aug 11 15:40:17 rwhitby: Yep the errors disappeared after a cvs update! Aug 11 15:40:31 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: lates buils now includes PHP as standard Aug 11 15:41:04 03matt_mcneill * 10unslung/Makefile: adding appweb to TESTING Aug 11 15:41:31 jp30, rwhitby: anyone want to check either of those before I go to bed? Aug 11 15:47:47 night all Aug 11 16:04:39 copperbeech, night; i'll test appweb on the official build system later Aug 11 16:06:30 jbot, test Aug 11 16:06:31 Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! Aug 11 16:46:56 I wonder if that underwater slug was running our firmware ..... Aug 11 16:49:41 interesting... sf.net cvs is awfully fast all of a sudden Aug 11 16:50:25 they did a big upgrade - that's why it was offline for two days Aug 11 16:50:33 ah Aug 11 17:08:55 hey, has anyone managed to get loop-aes working on an nslu2? Aug 11 17:10:02 no, but it would be quite interesting Aug 11 17:11:34 well I'm about to install OpenSlug for the first time on my turboslug (was using unslung before), so you think I'll be able to compile it natively? Aug 11 17:11:45 or do you think it'll be a tough job? Aug 11 17:12:00 plug in a usb stick with your key, and get access to the hard disk .... Aug 11 17:12:06 I've never tried compiling anything on a slug yet (or any other arch other than x86) Aug 11 17:12:23 well... Aug 11 17:12:24 matt_: should be able to compile it cross in OE Aug 11 17:12:44 in order to solve my laptop-desktop sync problem... Aug 11 17:12:59 I've got a notebook 2.5 hdd in an external case, it's really small. Aug 11 17:13:12 when I'm at my desk, I'm gonna plug the disk into my slug Aug 11 17:13:20 and use samba to share it across the network Aug 11 17:13:39 but when I travel, I'll just take the dinky disk with me and plug it into my laptop Aug 11 17:13:46 wonder how fast the throughput will be with encryption running on the slug .... Aug 11 17:14:17 woohoo Aug 11 17:14:32 my slug is downloading a torrent at 3MBit/sec :D Aug 11 17:14:34 problem is that I'll be encrypting the data for security. now I'm going to use a file-backed loop device for the encryption, so the file will be shared using samba and then my desktop and laptop will do the decruption Aug 11 17:14:47 *decryption Aug 11 17:15:00 but I figured it'd also be nice if my slug could access the data too Aug 11 17:15:24 performance might be an issue indeed Aug 11 17:15:29 don't see any reason why it shouldn't be straight-forward in OpenSlug Aug 11 17:15:34 perhaps using a turboslug it might be ok Aug 11 17:15:44 well I'll give it a shot and let you know ;) Aug 11 17:16:07 btw is there any interesting bluetooth applications that ppl have used their slugs for? Aug 11 17:16:11 *are there Aug 11 17:16:40 e.g. hooking up a serial connector and using a slug for home automation, via bluetooth mobile phones? Aug 11 17:20:52 My Treo650 connects to the internet at home via my BlueSlug Aug 11 17:21:17 just for the Internet? Aug 11 17:22:08 I have a SE K750i (with integrated mp3 player), and I'm looking at the possibility of running some kind of network file system on BlueSlug Aug 11 17:22:22 so that I could retrieve mp3s from my BlueSlug to my phone Aug 11 17:22:40 well, the treo just connects to my lan ... Aug 11 17:24:01 ok, thanks Aug 11 17:24:30 also, is it still necessary to make a custom firmware image to get a BlueSlug, or can I just recompile the kernel/add modules? Aug 11 17:27:33 I thought I updated that page yesterday ... Aug 11 17:27:52 I'll check, thanks Aug 11 17:28:14 excellent, thank you! Aug 11 17:31:30 ahah! Aug 11 17:31:43 * NAiL figured out why ctorrent uses huge amounts of memory Aug 11 17:31:47 It has a 16MB cache Aug 11 17:31:59 (which, in the new version, is adjustable) Aug 11 17:35:44 NAiL: yeah, I always set the cache to about 2MB Aug 11 17:36:23 Now ctorrent uses ~10%, instead of 60% of the system memory :D Aug 11 17:36:28 :) Aug 11 17:38:45 I'm thinking about trying: http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/cups.html Aug 11 17:39:01 it'd be pretty sweet to hook my printer up to my slug and print straight from my phone Aug 11 17:39:35 hehe Aug 11 17:39:47 I considered doing printing from my slug Aug 11 17:40:02 but my Canon paperweight laser doesn't have linux drivers Aug 11 17:40:24 and since I'm running WinXP x64, there's no windows drivers either Aug 11 17:40:29 I will need to in a couple of weeks - moving the desktop, and don't want to move the scanner and printer, so will put them on a slug. Aug 11 17:41:02 NAiL: it would be nice for that to be a wireless slug too ;-) Aug 11 17:41:30 openslug can handle USB hubs, correct? Aug 11 17:41:33 rwhitby: I'll do my best as soon as the package arrives :D Aug 11 17:41:35 matt_: yes Aug 11 17:42:06 one of mine runs with a usb hub, since I managed to wreck one usb port doing some soldering work :P Aug 11 17:42:22 So my IXUS and a hdd is connected to the hub Aug 11 17:43:26 well there's a lot of info on getting cups to work with bluetooth printers Aug 11 17:43:28 rwhitby: Do you know if anyone managed to get the device-side usb port working? It'd be really nice to do ChainSlug ;) Aug 11 17:43:42 but not much on the other way round, but I'm looking :) Aug 11 17:45:12 NAiL: there's a wiki page on the device side usb I think Aug 11 17:45:50 ah, yes Aug 11 17:45:52 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddDeviceSideUSBPort Aug 11 17:48:11 It's slow though Aug 11 17:48:29 It's only USB1 and there are some issues with the simple hack involving the resistors Aug 11 17:48:50 USB1.1 is fine for "interSlug comms" Aug 11 17:49:09 SlugArmyComSec Aug 11 17:50:24 You have to keep replugging it though Aug 11 17:50:48 oh? Aug 11 17:51:03 Just put a relay in; to toglge the plugging every now and then. :-) Aug 11 17:51:29 I never finished the programming for the PSoC that would have handled that Aug 11 17:51:51 It's wired in with a FET and everything just doesn't do anything with it Aug 11 17:52:00 Or better yet, mount a big knife switch on the side of your nslu2. :-) Aug 11 17:52:09 heheh Aug 11 17:52:12 Tiersten: thats pretty cool. Aug 11 17:52:32 I guess I should finish it some day :) Aug 11 17:52:59 The theory was that once the kernel had finished booting then it'd tell the PSoC uC to turn on the FET to do the pullup Aug 11 17:57:14 Looking for some wisdom trying to build libptp Aug 11 17:57:37 I've followed the AddAPackage instructions, but libptp's configure script Aug 11 17:57:42 is barfing looking for libusb Aug 11 17:58:04 I've done a make libusb, and added libusb-stage to the make/libptp.mk file Aug 11 17:58:46 ka6sox:) Aug 11 17:58:54 but I still get an error checking for usb_busses in -lusb Aug 11 18:01:11 n6mod: are you telling libptp where to look so it can find the staging lib dir? Aug 11 18:01:29 probably not Aug 11 18:01:44 that gets passed as an option to it's configure, right? Aug 11 18:01:54 (new to crosscompilation, unfortunately) Aug 11 18:02:12 n6mod: usually Aug 11 18:02:52 and I should be pointing it at builds/libusb? Aug 11 18:03:10 no, it should be pointing into staging/opt/... Aug 11 18:03:54 ok Aug 11 18:06:28 n6mod: check around in some other packages for examples Aug 11 18:07:34 rwhitby: do you have a suggestion for something similar I could look at? Aug 11 18:09:06 grep for STAGING_INCLUDE_DIR in *.mk Aug 11 18:09:24 Oh, right...I have all the makefiles. (forgot that) Aug 11 18:09:26 (or something like that) Aug 11 18:24:39 night guys, thanks for the help :) Aug 11 18:26:30 np - hope to see a wiki page about the BT printing ... Aug 11 18:31:00 bah, I'm not getting anywhere, and I'm out of time for now. Aug 11 18:31:23 rwhitby: thanks for the pointers, I may be back later. Aug 11 18:32:34 n6mod: devs are always welcome here Aug 11 18:33:19 I'm hardly a dev...build engineer maybe, but never dealt with a cross env. before. Aug 11 18:33:34 n6mod: in this project, if you're writing a .mk, then you're a dev Aug 11 18:34:22 rwhitby: I'll take that as a complement. Catch you later. Aug 11 19:01:27 http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/10/HNusbserver_1.html Aug 11 19:03:22 malfi, they had a mechanical bull ride there. Aug 11 20:00:39 what is the best way to setup a native development environment on openslug... I tried ipkg install openslug-native but it is broken. Aug 11 20:02:57 jstueve: how is it broken? Aug 11 20:03:17 fail on some dependency.. jas I'll grab the error Aug 11 20:04:17 perl-modules: unsatisfied recommendation for perl-module-mime-quotedprint Aug 11 20:04:17 Nothing to be done Aug 11 20:04:17 An error ocurred, return value: 1. Aug 11 20:04:17 Collected errors: Aug 11 20:04:18 ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for openslug-native: Aug 11 20:04:18 diffstat Aug 11 20:04:45 after a WHOLE LOTTA unsatisfied reommendation errors in perl Aug 11 20:04:59 yeah, the perl stuff you can ignore Aug 11 20:06:08 so what do I do to ignore it.. it fails the install? Aug 11 20:06:40 no, the missing diffstat package makes it fail Aug 11 20:06:45 hang on a sec Aug 11 20:07:59 ah Aug 11 20:13:41 ipkg update && ipkg install diffutils Aug 11 20:14:27 trying Aug 11 20:14:50 urgh Aug 11 20:14:57 ipkg update & ipkg install diffstat Aug 11 20:15:09 My mind was somewhere else ;) Aug 11 20:15:38 diffutils was upto date.. lol :) Aug 11 20:15:58 downloading torrents? I got the script working on mine now... Aug 11 20:16:14 yeah Aug 11 20:16:17 03repvik * r174 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.5-beta/openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add diffstat to feed. Required for openslug-native Aug 11 20:17:07 seems to be working now... Aug 11 20:17:21 good :) Aug 11 20:18:52 my script? Aug 11 20:18:58 It's *really* basic ;) Aug 11 20:19:09 I just needed something for it to automate it somewhat Aug 11 20:19:30 yeah... it seems to work... Aug 11 20:19:39 more or less, yes ;) Aug 11 20:19:43 are you dl'ing multiple torrents? or one at a time? Aug 11 20:20:07 I was doing one at a time, until I figured out the -C $CACHE_SIZE part Aug 11 20:20:21 now that ctorrent doesn't take up 60% mem, I can do several Aug 11 20:20:26 how many can you safely do? Aug 11 20:20:38 Dunno, probably four Aug 11 20:20:53 just dump all the torrents in that dir and then run the script? Aug 11 20:20:59 If you keep the cache size to 2MB or so Aug 11 20:21:15 I have it set to 4MB as on the webpage... Aug 11 20:21:18 yeah. It'll pick a torrent, move it to the working dir and start downloading Aug 11 20:22:07 even when the Working.txt is present? Aug 11 20:23:09 ah, no Aug 11 20:23:20 I haven't set up the script to do several at once Aug 11 20:23:30 I've started one manually Aug 11 20:23:35 and one was started auto Aug 11 20:23:45 ah.. Aug 11 20:23:53 be nice to have like a queue... lol.. Aug 11 20:23:59 yeah :) Aug 11 20:25:11 btw, ipkg install bwmon to monitor the slug's bandwidth usage ;) Aug 11 20:25:18 something that checks the free mem, and then adds another to the working dir... Aug 11 20:25:19 did that... Aug 11 20:25:40 with a torrent and the ipkg .. I'm dling about 13KBps Aug 11 20:25:53 ranging high at around 40KBps Aug 11 20:26:25 ah, right now I'm getting about 2.5-3mbit :D Aug 11 20:27:12 bursted a bit there... Aug 11 20:27:55 200Kbps Aug 11 20:28:17 be nice to be getting higher.. but I'm not sure the torrent I'm downloading has a bunch of peers... Aug 11 20:30:15 unfortunately, my upload seems to be somewhat constant 900kbps, which is a bit too much for comfort Aug 11 20:30:56 yeah.. I have to keep mine below a threshold for VoIP.. but the router QoS should take care of that... Aug 11 20:31:58 I guess I should limit the outbound traffic a bit Aug 11 20:32:08 its choking my line Aug 11 20:32:54 what are you dl? Aug 11 20:33:45 linux isos, just to test ;) Aug 11 20:36:55 I always test with pornos.. ;) Aug 11 20:37:02 hahah Aug 11 20:37:13 but I did want to dl the latest fedora core distro Aug 11 20:37:15 I guess that's a popular test-bench ;) Aug 11 20:38:34 hmm Aug 11 20:38:53 I guess the script doesn't handle reboots well Aug 11 20:39:14 nope.. have to move the torrent back out to the main dir. Aug 11 20:39:33 yeah Aug 11 20:39:48 so if I kill Working.txt I can run the scrip again to start a new torrent? Aug 11 20:39:58 yup Aug 11 20:41:35 * NAiL goes to bed. It's 05:41 Aug 11 20:41:43 night Aug 11 20:41:47 hopefully, torrens will be done tomorrow ;) Aug 11 21:09:18 exit Aug 11 22:10:04 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r8c8d23c7... 10/packages/sysvinit/ (sysvinit/openslug/inittab sysvinit_2.86.bb): Update /etc/inittab, to prepare for pbutton fix Aug 11 23:05:09 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rf4bc4dc4... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Aug 11 23:05:10 Fix pbutton to signal init, so it shuts down safely (Requires upgraded sysvinit) Aug 11 23:05:10 Fix rbutton to do machine_power_off(), since reset if unreliable. Aug 11 23:10:08 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r002eae68... 10/ (29 files in 19 dirs): Aug 11 23:10:08 propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 6db0fc38678acba6c316704e15a880cf5e7d3a03) Aug 11 23:10:08 to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head f4bc4dc44861d70db1182523d7e8aa0f3f4e73ef) Aug 11 23:33:00 has anyone here successfully installed perl modules from CPAN? Aug 11 23:33:30 i have read the groups and found out about the busybox gzip problems regarding internet installation from CPAN Aug 11 23:33:45 has anyone got around this? Aug 11 23:34:47 ipkg install gzip? Aug 11 23:35:28 NAiL: i will try that now...but i got the impression it wasn't cos gzip was missing... Aug 11 23:35:45 Can't remember how to install cpan stuff Aug 11 23:35:55 could you give me a cmdline, and I'll test? Aug 11 23:36:19 Airw0lf: There's a difference between busybox gzip and gnu gzip, Aug 11 23:36:44 ohhh Aug 11 23:36:50 i just reread the post and realised that Aug 11 23:37:13 NAiL: are you a perl user? Aug 11 23:37:41 nope Aug 11 23:37:53 I have perl installed Aug 11 23:37:57 ok...i'm wondering whether the rest of the perl install will even work Aug 11 23:38:08 let me try it though Aug 11 23:38:30 There's a bunch of modules available as ipks though Aug 11 23:38:41 856 or so Aug 11 23:38:51 perl modules or regular modules? Aug 11 23:38:56 perl modules Aug 11 23:39:08 ipkg list|grep perl Aug 11 23:40:58 hmm, is that for unslung? Aug 11 23:41:27 ah, no, openslug Aug 11 23:41:45 yeah, i thought as much Aug 11 23:42:41 whoa i found it for unslung Aug 11 23:42:49 xml::dom **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 11 23:59:56 2005