**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 17 02:59:56 2005
Aug 17 03:04:45 <CIA-8> 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote appweb cogito git-core, demote dump
Aug 17 04:04:29 <blaster8> BusyBox 1.01 is out: http://www.busybox.net/
Aug 17 04:04:56 <blaster8> loadsa patches: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/Changelog
Aug 17 04:45:21 <blaster8> hopefully, I'm now running a TurboSlug :)
Aug 17 04:45:58 * blaster8 is not exactly confident at soldering
Aug 17 04:47:24 <blaster8> hmm, how do you find out proc speed?
Aug 17 04:48:08 <rwhitby> dmesg
Aug 17 04:48:42 <rwhitby> or cat /proc/cpuinfo
Aug 17 04:51:35 <blaster8> hmm, just get a BogoMIPS reading - 263.78 ??
Aug 17 04:54:34 <rwhitby> yep, that's turbo
Aug 17 04:54:44 <blaster8> good - but I noticed something else in dmesg
Aug 17 04:54:50 <blaster8> EXT2-fs warning (device sda1): ext2_fill_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2
Aug 17 04:54:57 <rwhitby> openslug?
Aug 17 04:55:00 <blaster8> indeed
Aug 17 04:55:05 <blaster8> HEAD
Aug 17 04:55:10 <rwhitby> you forgot the -t ext3 in turnup disk
Aug 17 04:55:21 <rwhitby> please add it to the FAQ - you're the third person so far :-)
Aug 17 04:55:23 <blaster8> hmm - or it's just not documented ??
Aug 17 04:55:49 <blaster8> ok, I'll make update, recompile, flash and start again
Aug 17 04:55:56 <blaster8> and add it to the instructions
Aug 17 04:56:18 <rwhitby> actually, just turnup ram, reboot, turnup disk with the right options
Aug 17 04:56:35 <rwhitby> or turnup flash, reboot, turnup disk ...
Aug 17 04:56:45 <rwhitby> or edit /linuxrc on the flash manually ...
Aug 17 04:57:05 <blaster8> I can't run any production stuff on the NSLU2 before Openslug/LAMP is ready
Aug 17 04:57:30 <blaster8> so I'm keeping running HEAD and testing as much stuff as I can, while I still have a devSlug
Aug 17 04:57:42 <rwhitby> ah, ok, cool.
Aug 17 04:57:44 <blaster8> thanks for the hint, though
Aug 17 04:57:58 <rwhitby> wanna test Unslung 6.0 while you're there?
Aug 17 04:58:47 <blaster8> ok
Aug 17 04:59:14 <blaster8> I'll build the latest unslung when openslug has finished (shouldn't take long to rebuild)
Aug 17 05:00:04 <rwhitby> run "make unslung-binary-firmware" - that will get the version which is based on R63 (but has the ufsd.o module removed)
Aug 17 05:00:52 <blaster8> ok
Aug 17 05:01:02 <blaster8> I updated the makefile this morning, so that should be ok
Aug 17 05:11:20 <blaster8> right - running gzip benchmark for about 10 minutes to check all is ok
Aug 17 05:25:39 * NAiL is looking at busybox changelog
Aug 17 05:26:28 <blaster8> re: busybox - I mentioned in #oe, so someone there may be on the case
Aug 17 05:27:18 <NAiL> Yeah, quite possible.. Checking anyway to see if there are changes that'll break things
Aug 17 05:27:27 <NAiL> And I think the backtick change just might
Aug 17 05:30:44 <NAiL> finallyt
Aug 17 05:30:50 <NAiL> static leases for udhcpd
Aug 17 05:31:08 <NAiL> I was waiting for that for my wrt54gs
Aug 17 05:31:46 <NAiL> and fixed date.. good
Aug 17 05:31:54 <blaster8> NAiL: That Changelog link I gave you may not be accurate for 1.0.1
Aug 17 05:32:06 <blaster8> http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2005-August/015424.html
Aug 17 05:32:10 <NAiL> It's rc3
Aug 17 05:32:16 <NAiL> but there's a lot of nice changes
Aug 17 05:32:59 <NAiL> yes!
Aug 17 05:33:03 <NAiL> *finally*
Aug 17 05:33:04 <NAiL> I think
Aug 17 05:33:14 <NAiL> There's a start_stop_daemon -q fix
Aug 17 05:33:21 <NAiL> Maybe it finally listens ;)
Aug 17 05:34:45 <NAiL> haha
Aug 17 05:34:46 <NAiL> 10120: Make init suck slightly less.  (needs a complete rewrite in 1.1)
Aug 17 05:35:00 <NAiL> yes.. busybox init sucks :(
Aug 17 05:35:23 <blaster8> rwhitby: there is no make unslung-binary-firmware target, only make unslung-binary-kernel
Aug 17 05:35:59 <rwhitby> ok, that's it
Aug 17 05:36:02 <blaster8> so I have to make unslung first?
Aug 17 05:36:05 <rwhitby> nopw
Aug 17 05:36:10 <rwhitby> nope
Aug 17 05:36:11 <blaster8> ok
Aug 17 05:36:30 <blaster8> it's going
Aug 17 05:36:49 <dyoung> NAiL is slacking, I've held both heads for more than 2 hrs!
Aug 17 05:37:07 <NAiL> whaaa?
Aug 17 05:37:10 <NAiL> ;)
Aug 17 05:37:14 <NAiL> Yes, I am
Aug 17 05:37:18 <NAiL> I've been out driving again
Aug 17 05:37:19 <dyoung> I'm totally amazed
Aug 17 05:37:25 <dyoung> youre usually a commit machine!
Aug 17 05:37:35 <NAiL> Actually, I've been out spinning around at 60km/h :D
Aug 17 05:37:35 <dyoung> dont tell me you've actually run out of stuff to commit??
Aug 17 05:37:45 <dyoung> heh heh.
Aug 17 05:37:46 <NAiL> As of right now? I actually think I have
Aug 17 05:38:02 <dyoung> looking for a project?
Aug 17 05:38:14 * dyoung mumble "wizd"
Aug 17 05:38:17 <NAiL> It's a requirement for the drivers licence here... You have to learn how to handle driving on ice
Aug 17 05:38:24 <NAiL> I have a few projects
Aug 17 05:38:26 <NAiL> Samba is one
Aug 17 05:38:32 <rwhitby> yeah, wizd should be a cinch ...
Aug 17 05:38:46 <NAiL> heh, what was wizd again? Some streaming stuff?
Aug 17 05:39:08 <dyoung> For Rwhitby's neuston, and my actiontec. :-)
Aug 17 05:39:30 <NAiL> It's fun to drive at ~65km/h and hit the breaks... Nothing happens for a little while, then you start spinning around ;)
Aug 17 05:39:49 <NAiL> brakes
Aug 17 05:39:54 <blaster8> what car do you have?
Aug 17 05:40:11 <NAiL> None. I will hopefully get my first car later this year...
Aug 17 05:40:21 <NAiL> I haven't been in a hurry with getting one
Aug 17 05:40:31 <NAiL> Things to play with have been more important ;)
Aug 17 05:40:43 <blaster8> hard to justify getting a car when we have a rail station literally 2 minutes away
Aug 17 05:40:49 <NAiL> But, by the looks of it, I'm getting a very old car
Aug 17 05:41:00 <NAiL> 25 years old. It's in a very good shape though
Aug 17 05:41:05 <NAiL> And it's a very nice car :D
Aug 17 05:41:13 <blaster8> how far north is trondheim?
Aug 17 05:41:21 <dyoung> 1980's... hmm.
Aug 17 05:41:37 <dyoung> blaster8: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/developers.php
Aug 17 05:42:09 <NAiL> dyoung: yes, before Porsche got turbo.
Aug 17 05:42:30 <dyoung> I'm pretty sure is the northern most developer
Aug 17 05:42:38 <dyoung> pretty sure NAiL is....
Aug 17 05:42:44 <NAiL> So am I
Aug 17 05:43:06 <blaster8> hmm, I went to Abisko in Sweden once
Aug 17 05:43:14 <blaster8> little place above the arctic circle
Aug 17 05:43:24 <NAiL> That'd be farther north than me
Aug 17 05:43:35 <NAiL> I can't wait until I get that caaar
Aug 17 05:43:47 <blaster8> quite a bit - took ages to get to their airport from Oslo
Aug 17 05:43:51 <NAiL> hehehe :)
Aug 17 05:44:01 <dyoung> NAiL: youre getting a Porsche ?
Aug 17 05:44:02 <blaster8> I never realised there was that much up there?
Aug 17 05:44:07 <NAiL> dyoung: 911 CS
Aug 17 05:44:08 <rwhitby> NAiL is northernmost and I am southernmost
Aug 17 05:44:10 <dyoung> woo
Aug 17 05:44:31 <rwhitby> dyoung is closest to date line
Aug 17 05:44:56 <NAiL> dyoung: A friend of the family is going to sell his. It's in really good shape. I've test-driven it a bit. It rawks
Aug 17 05:45:15 <rwhitby> (parted) print
Aug 17 05:45:15 <rwhitby> Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-76319.085 megabytes
Aug 17 05:45:15 <rwhitby> Disk label type: msdos
Aug 17 05:45:15 <rwhitby> Minor    Start       End     Type      Filesystem  Flags
Aug 17 05:45:15 <rwhitby> 1          0.031  76144.021  primary   ext3
Aug 17 05:45:17 <rwhitby> 2      76144.021  76261.684  primary   ext3
Aug 17 05:45:18 <rwhitby> 3      76261.685  76316.594  primary   linux-swap
Aug 17 05:45:18 <dyoung> only one thing to say about performance vehicles....
Aug 17 05:45:20 <kolla> I think perhaps I live a few meters further north of NAiL :)
Aug 17 05:45:20 <rwhitby> (parted) resize 2 76144.021 76154.021
Aug 17 05:45:22 <rwhitby> No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout!  Parted
Aug 17 05:45:24 <rwhitby> can't resize this (yet).
Aug 17 05:45:25 <dyoung> Dont Kill Yourself.
Aug 17 05:45:26 <rwhitby> (parted)
Aug 17 05:45:28 <rwhitby> :-(
Aug 17 05:45:36 <rwhitby> Anyone got parted to work on an Unslung disk?
Aug 17 05:45:46 <NAiL> rwhitby: I didn't get parted to work on openslug
Aug 17 05:45:57 <dyoung> is parted endian aware?
Aug 17 05:45:58 <NAiL> dyoung: I'm a very careful driver actually
Aug 17 05:46:21 <NAiL> rwhitby: I tried compiling parted natively. And it didn't recognize my ext2(3?) fs
Aug 17 05:46:28 <blaster8> at least for me, fdisk can write but not read partitions
Aug 17 05:46:31 <dyoung> NAiL: I'm sure you are. :-)  But the performance sometimes... well.. just gets the better of you.
Aug 17 05:46:39 <NAiL> dyoung: well, yes ;)
Aug 17 05:46:47 <dyoung> Bwaaa!!!
Aug 17 05:46:51 <dyoung> heh
Aug 17 05:47:21 <NAiL> Can't drive it most of the winter though. Hind-wheel drive, engine in back. If it's slippery, it's hell getting back on track again.
Aug 17 05:47:24 <dyoung> I recently got a turbo.  so... heh.
Aug 17 05:47:37 <dyoung> Extreme Oversteer!
Aug 17 05:49:29 <DaKa> there... I have a working apache, with everything somewhat in shape, I think..
Aug 17 05:49:38 <NAiL> DaKa: Great work :D
Aug 17 05:49:42 <blaster8> well done
Aug 17 05:50:03 * NAiL goes off to sleep a bit. Didn't sleep much last night
Aug 17 05:50:04 <blaster8> is mod_gzip supported, out of interest?
Aug 17 05:50:15 <DaKa> hm..
Aug 17 05:51:05 <NAiL> blaster8: uclibc just might have been upgraded now as well... Wonder what neat changes are in there
Aug 17 05:51:21 <blaster8> hopefully some application fixes
Aug 17 05:51:38 <blaster8> but uclibc devs are a bit bigheaded about implementing workarounds
Aug 17 05:52:32 <DaKa> blaster8: is mod_gzip in apache2 default, or add on?
Aug 17 05:53:03 <NAiLzzz> iirc, it's default
Aug 17 05:53:18 <blaster8> aah, you're using apache2
Aug 17 05:53:22 <blaster8> didn't realise
Aug 17 05:53:33 <DaKa> ah yes..
Aug 17 05:54:17 <blaster8> hmm, in fact I need mod_deflate for apache2, and it is native but has to be 'compiled in'
Aug 17 05:54:34 <DaKa> hm...
Aug 17 05:54:57 <blaster8> it's just I have very limited upload bandwidth - that's all
Aug 17 05:55:00 <blaster8> I'll look into it
Aug 17 05:55:13 <DaKa> is it in the source? and just some --enable-deflate?
Aug 17 05:55:19 <blaster8> I assume the second
Aug 17 05:56:08 <DaKa> hm.. I'll commit what I have, and try to somehow get autobuildning working, and then we can start adding/changing stuff for real
Aug 17 05:56:34 <rwhitby> CIA-8: wake up
Aug 17 05:56:43 <blaster8> don't worry, probably just me who will ever request it
Aug 17 05:57:13 <rwhitby> DaKa: cross or native?
Aug 17 05:57:25 <DaKa> rwhitby: native
Aug 17 05:57:43 <DaKa> cross should be possible, but lots of things to fix
Aug 17 05:58:29 <blaster8> how about php (more silly questions ;) )
Aug 17 05:58:58 <DaKa> php is in oe, just needs to somehow build the apache-module for us..
Aug 17 05:59:09 <DaKa> and that can be a problem
Aug 17 05:59:20 <DaKa> because it needs the apache headers, staged in the native
Aug 17 05:59:33 <blaster8> [g2] has had apache/php natively building for a while
Aug 17 05:59:39 <DaKa> so.. I guess php needs to be built native too, or that fixed somehow..
Aug 17 05:59:39 <blaster8> but independently of OE
Aug 17 05:59:49 <blaster8> (I think)
Aug 17 05:59:54 <DaKa> yes, the thing is packaging it...
Aug 17 06:00:11 <blaster8> I've had a look at the PHP packages (horrendous)
Aug 17 06:00:48 <DaKa> rwhitby: does OE has any standard on "real" native packages, that needs to be compiled on the target system?
Aug 17 06:01:36 <blaster8> gotta love upslug btw
Aug 17 06:01:44 <blaster8> rock solid over my wireless network
Aug 17 06:02:04 <dyoung> you know how it was written right?
Aug 17 06:02:13 <blaster8> no - surprise me ;)
Aug 17 06:03:31 <dyoung> someone wrote the basic one to have it return the config info.  Christopher spend a day or two snooping the packets (from the actual sercomm utility) and crafted the bits that allowed it to actualy write.
Aug 17 06:03:58 <blaster8> it's really good - the autodetect only detects my slug too (nothing else) which is handy
Aug 17 06:04:03 <dyoung> the writing bits were completely reverse engineered.
Aug 17 06:04:30 <blaster8> really clever stuff going on in this project
Aug 17 06:04:36 <dyoung> The jbowler came onboard and made it dyoung-resistant.
Aug 17 06:04:45 <blaster8> ;)
Aug 17 06:05:58 <rwhitby> DaKa: dunno
Aug 17 06:06:13 <DaKa> oh well, I added 'raise bb.parse.SkipPackage("Apache will only build nativly (TARGET_ARCH == BUILD_ARCH)")' to apache
Aug 17 06:06:19 <dyoung> I love upslug too
Aug 17 06:06:50 <DaKa> so noone accidentaly thinks it will build cross
Aug 17 06:08:25 <blaster8> need to order the parts to finish customising my NSLU2
Aug 17 06:08:43 <blaster8> the board works nicely in its new case
Aug 17 06:09:07 <blaster8> just need to add replacement power buttons, LEDs, USB-Serial, USB Hub etc
Aug 17 06:09:30 <blaster8> the only shame is that I realised the case is bigger than my Mac mini :(
Aug 17 06:09:41 <blaster8> but the power supply is integrated, at least
Aug 17 06:09:44 <rwhitby> MegaSlug
Aug 17 06:09:48 <blaster8> yeah
Aug 17 06:10:09 <dyoung> Do you have a 5 drive array in there too?
Aug 17 06:10:15 <blaster8> not yet :)
Aug 17 06:10:19 <blaster8> need money for that
Aug 17 06:11:06 <blaster8> going to upgrade the disk to a Seagate 40GB and add 512MB of USB Flash once everything else is working
Aug 17 06:11:30 <blaster8> the Fujitsu 10GB in atm was cheap but isn't exactly quiet
Aug 17 06:11:31 <geojeff> i'll end up making a CatFoodContainerSlug -- i've been buying cat food in these plastic tubs for a year, thinking about needing a waterproof container for whatever frog logger thing i ended up using :)
Aug 17 06:12:02 <Eiffel> try an 2,5" hdd blaster they are quiet normally
Aug 17 06:12:31 <blaster8> let's put it this way - my current drive is louder than my Mac mini
Aug 17 06:12:58 <rwhitby> My 2.5" laptop drive is louder than my 3.5" desktop drive.
Aug 17 06:13:23 <rwhitby> Hitachi vs Seagate ACE
Aug 17 06:15:41 <blaster8> the great thing is that the internal power supply in the case I bought is a beast - 3A at 5V
Aug 17 06:15:56 <blaster8> so I can power the slug, a hard drive and 2 other full power USB devices
Aug 17 06:15:59 <Eiffel> ACE ? where did you get one normaly they arenīt sold to endusers
Aug 17 06:24:02 <rwhitby> Eiffel: it came out of a TopField PVR, who's 80GB ACE disk was replaced by a 250GB normal disk.
Aug 17 06:24:43 <rwhitby> But the 80Gb ACE drive in a Vantec 3 enclosure, and it's practically silent.
Aug 17 06:25:13 <Eiffel> ^^
Aug 17 06:25:49 * rwhitby was going to point to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/slug-central, but dyoung hasn't moved the albums over yet ...
Aug 17 06:26:33 * dyoung hides
Aug 17 06:26:35 <rwhitby> http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central
Aug 17 06:26:49 <rwhitby> The vantec enclosure matches the slug nicely :-)
Aug 17 06:32:14 <dyoung> Who was it that was playing with the NetFilter stuff under unslung?
Aug 17 06:33:17 <dyoung> the unslung feed should have the kernel-module-iptable-nat module now.
Aug 17 07:00:51 <blaster8> back to soldering - have to shorten a USB cable
Aug 17 07:13:56 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ntop.mk: Added the run-time dependency on libxml2.
Aug 17 07:33:50 <Eiffel> hm what happens when i try to run samba without nmbd will access be ristricted via IP only?
Aug 17 07:47:20 <Eiffel> ah k found it so i donīt need it great little bit more ram :-)
Aug 17 08:21:16 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Demoted ntop from wl500g, as it segfaults.
Aug 17 08:45:45 <blaster8> yay - shortened cable seems to work
Aug 17 08:45:53 <blaster8> very neat
Aug 17 08:48:33 <blaster8> btw, rhitby - can Unslung 6 not be released as a beta?
Aug 17 08:48:51 <blaster8> or if it is, can Unslung 5.5 be promoted to stable
Aug 17 08:50:26 <ka6sox-zzzz> morning blaster8 
Aug 17 08:50:32 <blaster8> morning
Aug 17 08:50:46 <blaster8> sorry about the fussiness about the setup-host script, btw
Aug 17 08:51:57 <ka6sox-zzzz> no problem...we are all trying to get it right.
Aug 17 08:52:16 <ka6sox-zzzz> now that I have my build system workin now I can get back to fixing broken things.
Aug 17 08:52:22 <ka6sox-zzzz> like libao
Aug 17 08:52:28 <blaster8> geojeff will be pleased
Aug 17 08:52:32 <ka6sox-zzzz> ya
Aug 17 08:52:37 <ka6sox-zzzz> okay off to the mine
Aug 17 08:53:09 <blaster8> oh, btw, new target of the day is make unslung-binary-kernel
Aug 17 08:53:19 <blaster8> for building Unslung 6
Aug 17 09:11:05 <blaster8> rwhitby: ping
Aug 17 09:11:20 <blaster8> have a bit of odd behaviour from Unslung 6
Aug 17 09:11:47 <blaster8> the status light never stops flashing, but the web interface is fully accessible
Aug 17 09:12:49 <blaster8> now telnetted in perfectly, with the status light still flashing green :)
Aug 17 09:18:56 <blaster8> and it doesn't shut down
Aug 17 09:19:13 <blaster8> just hangs with the status light off and the ethernet light on
Aug 17 09:19:58 <blaster8> though services are down (telnet/web)
Aug 17 09:20:12 <malfi> openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/asm/bitops.h is almost empty, is this my setup or a problem with openslug?
Aug 17 09:20:58 <NAiLzzz> malfi: 21 lines
Aug 17 09:21:25 <malfi> NAiLzzz: yeah same here :-(
Aug 17 09:21:40 <blaster8> is that an issue?
Aug 17 09:22:01 <NAiLzzz> Shouldn't be. Works just fint here
Aug 17 09:22:11 <malfi> yes, I've got a program that uses the bit-test macros (as seens in /usr/include/asm/bitops.h )
Aug 17 09:22:38 <malfi> net_if.c:219: warning: implicit declaration of function `test_and_set_bit'
Aug 17 09:28:56 <malfi> I guess it should look like this: http://cvs.blackfin.uclinux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/uClinux-dist/linux-2.6.x/include/asm-arm/bitops.h?rev=1.4;content-type=text%2Fplain;cvsroot=uclinux533;f=h
Aug 17 09:30:27 <blaster8> rwhitby-asleep: To summarise - Unslung 6 works fine except for the following - 1) No Shutdown (w/button) or Reboot (via telnet), slug hangs on everything off except ethernet light; 2) Status light keeps flashing green after a beep and after the web interface comes up (everything there seems to work fine)
Aug 17 09:30:43 <blaster8> unslinging went ok, mind
Aug 17 09:33:10 <Joschi> NAiLzzz: I just changed my Samba as on the thread... now it works perfectly
Aug 17 09:40:37 <Joschi> ok - perfectly is said too much :-/ i'll investigate the problems and report them here
Aug 17 09:57:09 <blaster8> rwhitby-asleep: one last thing - as far as I am concerned Openslug 2.6 is completely stable (at least the base system) - I think you could easily designate 2.6 now and call it stable
Aug 17 09:58:12 <NAiLzzz> aaaugh
Aug 17 09:58:18 <blaster8> ?
Aug 17 09:59:01 <blaster8> obviously n00b onslaught would be an issue, but still, it works well
Aug 17 09:59:08 <NAiL> That means updating the feeds again ;)
Aug 17 09:59:45 <NAiL> gotta go
Aug 17 10:00:42 <blaster8> not entirely clear why that would mean updating the feeds, but nevermind :)
Aug 17 10:01:25 <Joschi> hi!
Aug 17 10:01:26 <blaster8> going off on a limb here, but this might be a time to start a development and a maintenance branch
Aug 17 10:01:35 <Joschi> ok did some testing
Aug 17 10:01:46 <Joschi> with big files it works ok
Aug 17 10:01:57 <blaster8> is this openslug?
Aug 17 10:02:19 <Joschi> with small files < 10k explorer says "not enough space left on drive"
Aug 17 10:02:59 <Joschi> so i think the way to go would be to use the "old" solution for small files (i.e. write 0's to extend file size) and the new for big files
Aug 17 10:04:43 <Matta> hmm, any idea why ipkg install kernel-module-ip-tables returns error 4 not found in openslug 2.5?
Aug 17 10:10:30 <blaster8> Matta: because that requires Openslug 2.6
Aug 17 10:10:53 <blaster8> if you want to try it out I can give you an unofficial image
Aug 17 10:11:38 <blaster8> I also hate to say this, but the third word in the documentation does answer your question: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugIptables
Aug 17 10:16:42 <Matta> heh, k, thx
Aug 17 10:16:42 <Matta> =)
Aug 17 10:17:06 <blaster8> do you want to test iptables?
Aug 17 10:18:04 <Matta> I'm building a router/firewall of this thing, so I'm depending on it
Aug 17 10:18:20 <blaster8> so do you want a test image, or can you build one yourself?
Aug 17 10:18:28 <Matta> I can build myself
Aug 17 10:18:39 <Matta> any idea when 2.6 is out "officially" ?
Aug 17 10:19:06 <blaster8> well, I'm lobbying for ASAP, given that I think it is bug free - but you would have to ask rwhitby, who is asleep atm
Aug 17 10:19:42 <blaster8> it's to to 3 in the morning where he is
Aug 17 10:21:16 <Matta> ic
Aug 17 10:26:43 <Joschi> anyone can give some hints about natively building openslug packages?
Aug 17 10:27:07 <blaster8> sorry, only do cross compiling here
Aug 17 10:27:51 <Joschi> i have to use a windows box here... so i have to boot linux just for compiling :-/
Aug 17 10:28:05 <Joschi> i'm just thinking about installing coLinux
Aug 17 10:28:13 <blaster8> personally, I bought a cheap 1GHz Pentium 3 and use ssh
Aug 17 10:28:31 <blaster8> talk to it from OS X box next to my devSlug
Aug 17 10:28:34 <Repvik> Anyone know anything about the synology DS?
Aug 17 10:29:49 <Joschi> i don't think i will have SO much time to spend on it that it will be worth buying an extra pc for that
Aug 17 10:32:38 <blaster8> Joschi: I bought it for ÂĢ58 on eBay and can sell it for ÂĢ58 when I'm finished with it
Aug 17 10:33:06 <blaster8> never bought a PC on eBay which I haven't sold on for a profit when I've finished using it
Aug 17 10:34:13 <Joschi> :)
Aug 17 10:34:21 <blaster8> absolutely
Aug 17 10:34:56 <blaster8> 512MB RAM, 2 NICs, onboard and external video (with DVI) and quiet for next to nothing
Aug 17 10:35:45 <Joschi> too bad that u don't need video when ssh-ing to it ;)
Aug 17 10:36:42 <blaster8> yeah, shame that
Aug 17 11:08:56 <malfi> should oe_runmake automatically use ${STAGING_INCDIR) as an Include directory?
Aug 17 11:35:30 <blaster8> wondering whether to attach a heatsink...
Aug 17 11:39:32 <blaster8> probably overkill, but I do have one spare
Aug 17 12:14:46 <mcfly587> hello
Aug 17 12:17:24 <mcfly587> someone is using gentoo to develop unslung package ? i have a problem with the makefile ...
Aug 17 12:17:43 <ByronT> what is the problem?
Aug 17 12:17:44 <mcfly587> Calculating dependencies ...done!
Aug 17 12:17:44 <mcfly587> !!! Error: the >=net-www/apache-2 package conflicts with another package.
Aug 17 12:17:44 <mcfly587> !!!        both can't be installed on the same system together.
Aug 17 12:17:44 <mcfly587> !!!        Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers.
Aug 17 12:18:06 <mcfly587> i dont want to uninstall my system package :/
Aug 17 12:19:23 <mcfly587> i have created a new user : login in root ... and use make setup-host-gentoo
Aug 17 12:20:50 <jacques> weird
Aug 17 12:20:55 <ka6sox-office> mcfly587, you are using the Master Makefile to create a gentoo build environment?
Aug 17 12:21:02 <jacques> I wonder why it would want to install apache?
Aug 17 12:21:24 <jacques> I use gentoo but have never done make setup-host-gentoo
Aug 17 12:22:04 <mcfly587> ka6sox-office, yes i'm running on gentoo and use the wiki help : #
Aug 17 12:22:04 <mcfly587> # wget --cache=off http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile 
Aug 17 12:22:19 <ka6sox-office> k
Aug 17 12:22:39 <ka6sox-office> I'm a debian guy...I'll  let the Gentoo guys answer this one.
Aug 17 12:23:48 <mcfly587> jacques -> How can i create the system file wihtout make setup-host-gentoo
Aug 17 12:24:58 <ka6sox-office> setup-host-gentoo is supposed to make sure you have all the pre-requsite packages installed so that you can create the build environment.
Aug 17 12:25:11 <jacques> I have no idea why it wants apache
Aug 17 12:25:13 <blaster8> mcfly587: what are your USE flags?
Aug 17 12:25:28 <blaster8> I used it on a fresh gentoo system and it did not request apache
Aug 17 12:26:07 <mcfly587> no special use flagsd
Aug 17 12:26:18 <mcfly587> nothing in my make.conf for use flags
Aug 17 12:26:27 <blaster8> what package wants apache?
Aug 17 12:26:55 <mcfly587> ~dev-libs/boost-1.32.0 ~*
Aug 17 12:26:55 <mcfly587> Calculating dependencies ...done!
Aug 17 12:26:55 <mcfly587>  ... and want to install apache
Aug 17 12:26:56 <blaster8> i.e. what was the last package to start before this threw the error
Aug 17 12:27:22 <mcfly587> its possible that's a pre-requiste packages !
Aug 17 12:27:38 <mcfly587> i search
Aug 17 12:27:43 <blaster8> right - run emerge --pretend boost
Aug 17 12:28:17 <blaster8> mcfly587: apache should not be required
Aug 17 12:28:38 <mcfly587> Calculating dependencies ...done!
Aug 17 12:28:38 <mcfly587> [ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/boost-1.32.0-r4
Aug 17 12:28:41 <ka6sox-office> sounds like a protage problem.
Aug 17 12:28:50 <blaster8> can you run emerge sync
Aug 17 12:28:57 <mcfly587> ok
Aug 17 12:30:21 <blaster8> the only package, off the top of my head, that could pull in apache would be subversion
Aug 17 12:31:32 <blaster8> aah
Aug 17 12:31:43 <mcfly587> same problem
Aug 17 12:31:48 <blaster8> found the issue
Aug 17 12:32:02 <blaster8> can you run the following command (one second)
Aug 17 12:33:01 <blaster8> echo ~dev-util/subversion-1.1.4 ~* >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
Aug 17 12:33:03 <blaster8> as root
Aug 17 12:34:17 <blaster8> then retry
Aug 17 12:35:09 <mcfly587> mhmh i have an other error now :) for package apr-util masked ... i'm going to unmask this package in my keywords 
Aug 17 12:37:06 <blaster8> echo ~dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.5 ~* >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
Aug 17 12:37:13 <blaster8> will do it - just in case
Aug 17 12:40:02 <mcfly587> that's seems ok, emerge in progress ... :)
Aug 17 12:41:10 <mcfly587> thanks all for your help !
Aug 17 12:50:28 <blaster8> time to test the power on modification
Aug 17 12:51:58 <blaster8> auto on works, shutdown works
Aug 17 12:55:28 <blaster8> and so does reboot
Aug 17 12:55:53 <blaster8> so, turboed and made to work like a proper embedded system in one day
Aug 17 12:57:49 <jacques> cool
Aug 17 12:59:28 <blaster8> I'll glue a 2 pin header onto the back of the board and use a jumper to make a switch, so I can turn it on and off
Aug 17 12:59:47 <blaster8> but first I need to put in an order to Farnell for all the parts I need to finish this project
Aug 17 13:07:11 <blaster8> hey rwhitby: notes on Unslung 6 above
Aug 17 13:07:22 <rwhitby> blaster8: Unslung release schedule is up to ByronT, OpenSlug up to jbowler
Aug 17 13:07:42 <blaster8> thanks - didn't know that
Aug 17 13:09:38 <rwhitby> we don't even start to consider calling something non-beta until it has been feature-stable and bug-free for at least 6 months.
Aug 17 13:10:16 <blaster8> hmm, bug-free?
Aug 17 13:11:00 <vapier> wish jbowler would stop back in
Aug 17 13:16:41 <rwhitby> blaster8: saw the notes, thx.  Unfort. I think all those issues require kernel source ...
Aug 17 13:20:48 <blaster8> I'll keep complaining
Aug 17 13:23:10 <rwhitby> thx for testing.  were you able to mount a separate ntfs drive when unslung?
Aug 17 13:25:16 <AdamBaker> rwhitby: re: bug 267 I didn't think we normally used update alternatives when the conflict was only with busybox
Aug 17 13:26:17 <ka6sox-office> AdamBaker, thats good info to put in the notes section of that bug report.
Aug 17 13:27:35 <blaster8> rwhitby: don't use NTFS, sorry
Aug 17 13:31:44 <rwhitby> AdamBaker: in that case, netstat should be included in net-tools, and net-tools should be marked as "Conflicts" with busybox.
Aug 17 13:34:46 <AdamBaker> rwhitby: it is included - maybe ipkg doesn't notice the conflict if it is with a link rather than a file and then the install fails, either that or the bug reporter used the force option on ipkg
Aug 17 13:36:41 <AdamBaker> presumably the conflict should actually be against busybox-links
Aug 17 13:37:26 <rwhitby> indeed, yes.
Aug 17 13:37:42 <rwhitby> we should change that in any other packages which conflict with busybox too.
Aug 17 13:38:08 <rwhitby> (BTW, I was the bug reporter :-)
Aug 17 13:39:28 <rwhitby> indeed, it is installed.  I guess I based the bug report on ipkgfind output, which looks like it was not correct,
Aug 17 13:46:55 <AdamBaker> It looks like CIA is still down - I checked in the net-tools change
Aug 17 13:48:24 <AdamBaker> Is Inge still the only person who can create developer bugzilla accounts - he appears to have overlooked the request I sent when I created the net-tools package
Aug 17 13:50:20 <rwhitby> ka6sox can too
Aug 17 13:50:22 <ka6sox-office> AdamBaker, is this in slugbug?
Aug 17 13:50:34 <ka6sox-office> net-tools...its an unslung package?
Aug 17 13:50:58 <AdamBaker> ka6sox: yes unslung
Aug 17 13:51:30 <rwhitby> optware :-)
Aug 17 13:51:36 <AdamBaker> my sf.net name is aabaker if you are keeping them aligned
Aug 17 13:52:01 <ka6sox-office> optware-nslu2
Aug 17 13:52:13 <ka6sox-office> we need to realign the names in Slugbug.
Aug 17 13:52:19 * ka6sox-office puts that on the todo.
Aug 17 13:53:22 <ka6sox-office> okay its added.
Aug 17 14:24:49 <Joschi> hi - how can i get bb to recreate the files in /tmp/cross ?
Aug 17 14:56:39 <Joschi> no clues?
Aug 17 15:18:17 <dyoung> "the files" isnt very descriptive, and we actually dont require anything to be in /tmp/cross .
Aug 17 15:19:14 <Joschi> hm, when i do a "bb samba" it complains, the it can't find armeb-cross-gcc in there...
Aug 17 15:19:30 <Joschi> the thing is that i switched to another buildsystem
Aug 17 15:20:28 <Joschi> i compiled on x64 linux before, now i have i386, so it couldn't execute the 64bit-binaries
Aug 17 15:20:34 <Joschi> which were in this folder
Aug 17 15:23:00 <Joschi> so i thing i'll remove the whole tmp/ tree again :-/
Aug 17 15:24:04 <dyoung> Right, you will need to re-build your cross-compile env.
Aug 17 15:24:26 <dyoung> that probably means youre cache needs cleaning too actually.
Aug 17 15:24:38 <dyoung> why not just re-make the whole thing by mv tmp tmp.old
Aug 17 15:25:44 <Joschi> i wanted to avoid to have to build all packages again
Aug 17 15:26:01 <Joschi> but ok, i'll let it run over night ;)
Aug 17 20:11:03 <CIA-8> 03dyoung 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r198a3cc3... 10/Makefile: Fixed the syntax
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