**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 20 02:59:56 2005 Aug 20 03:29:58 So has anyone tried Unslung 6.0-alpha yet? Aug 20 03:39:55 rwhitby: do I anything special for ucslungc? Aug 20 03:40:47 Does anybody know how to build the toolchain on fc4 Aug 20 03:40:59 mithro: "make ucslugc" should do it Aug 20 03:41:10 I get an error "checking version of gcc... 4.0.1, bad" Aug 20 03:41:29 rwhitby: but i don't need a serial port or anything? Aug 20 03:41:29 ... "These critical programs are missing or too old:gcc" Aug 20 03:42:09 mithro: dunno - you'd have to ask jbowler. Aug 20 03:42:19 I expect it will work exactly like openslug. Aug 20 03:42:40 okay Aug 20 03:42:43 marceln: dunno - none of the core developers use FC - we all use Debian, Ubuntu, or Gentoo. Aug 20 03:42:51 well i guess i'll just try and flash the new image then Aug 20 03:43:00 (mainly cause people keep having problems with FC, so we stay away from it) Aug 20 03:43:42 The problem is that it want to use gcc and i don't know how to tell it to use gcc32. Aug 20 03:46:08 hrm i should upload the .img file assuming? Aug 20 04:16:37 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r9a008e01... 10/Makefile: org.openembedded.nslu2-linux branch is now deprecated - use org.openembedded.dev instead Aug 20 04:20:48 okay i've flashed ucslugc only it doesn't seem to have bring up an ip address Aug 20 04:23:07 opps just a crappy network card... Aug 20 04:24:00 s/card/cable Aug 20 04:42:11 The org.openembedded.nslu2-linux branch is now officially deprecated. The Master Makefile has been updated to use the org.openembedded.dev branch directly, and will automatically update your working area on the next "make update". Aug 20 04:43:33 hey rwhitby Aug 20 04:43:51 hey Aug 20 04:44:02 so do we need to get a new makefile? Aug 20 04:44:22 i'm assuming the makefile doesn't update itself Aug 20 04:44:44 it does Aug 20 04:44:58 you may have to run make update twice Aug 20 04:45:43 * mithro does a make update Aug 20 04:45:52 rwhitby: i'm now running ucslugc Aug 20 04:46:05 working well? Aug 20 04:50:43 kinda :P Aug 20 04:52:18 i'm going to play around with the following things Aug 20 04:52:25 bluetooth headsets + sip Aug 20 04:52:30 bittorrent Aug 20 04:52:41 makeing harddrives slient Aug 20 04:53:46 btw what is the ramdisk/flashdisk partitions? Aug 20 04:53:46 bluetooth + sip sounds interesting ... Aug 20 04:54:08 i would like to use a bluetooth headset as a sip phone Aug 20 04:54:19 ramdisk is the ext2 initrd, flashdisk is the jffs2 Aug 20 04:55:00 why do you need an ext2 initrd? Aug 20 04:55:16 redboot Aug 20 04:55:32 why does redboot need it :P Aug 20 04:56:23 cause if you don't put it there, then it will try and move it into memory, get a zero length, think it's MAX_INT, and overwrite your memory with garbage. Aug 20 04:57:15 so if you used ajex or something we could get rid of it? Aug 20 04:57:39 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/RedBootSequence Aug 20 04:57:49 Yep, if you use Apex you can get rid of it. Aug 20 04:58:50 FIS Directory? Aug 20 04:59:12 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/HomePage Aug 20 04:59:37 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/LastBlockMemoryMap Aug 20 05:05:45 Make a Skype phone work with OpenSlug: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/msg/246e3e3217558ee9?hl=en& Aug 20 05:17:40 intresting Aug 20 05:18:42 rwhitby: I logged the problem of "make toolchain" with a solution as http://slugbug.nslu2-linux.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=271 Aug 20 05:19:57 yep, the simple answer is that it is not worth using FC4 for nslu2-linux development :-( Aug 20 05:26:04 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r78395dd7... 10/Makefile: Removed org.openembedded.nslu2-linux from the initial setup steps Aug 20 06:11:39 03marceln * 10unslung/make/dovecot.mk: Changed dovecot version to 20050820 Aug 20 07:01:03 ~slugtime Aug 20 07:01:03 i guess slugtime is 40 hour days 10 hours in 4 timezones with overlap Aug 20 07:03:41 Hmm - when Unslung 6 has loaded rootfs from external disk, USB_Detect no longer starts Aug 20 07:07:48 03marceln * 10unslung/make/net-snmp.mk: Updated openssl dependency Aug 20 07:20:59 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ufsd.mk: Removed the restriction on unslung version, as it does work with Unslung 5.5 :-) Aug 20 07:35:40 I use RHEL4 and OpenSlug & Unslung build fine for me Aug 20 07:36:08 marceln: Tiersten's your man ... Aug 20 07:36:32 RHEL4 isn't based on FC4 though. I think it's based on FC3? Aug 20 07:36:57 ah. and it probably uses gcc3 by default? Aug 20 07:37:07 lemme check Aug 20 07:37:18 yup Aug 20 07:37:25 "gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22.1)" Aug 20 07:42:25 Ok Aug 20 07:42:54 Is there no RPM for gcc3? Aug 20 07:43:13 I use fc4 which use 4.0.1 20050727 Aug 20 07:43:33 There is a gcc32 whith version 3.2.3 20030502 Aug 20 07:44:09 Unfortunately in "crosstool.sh" is CC=gcc hardcoded. Aug 20 07:44:26 Just change that line to CC=gcc32 and it works. Aug 20 07:44:59 So it's not a real problem anymore. Aug 20 07:45:03 mv /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc4 ; ln -s /usr/bin/gcc32 /usr/bin/gcc :-) Aug 20 07:45:11 ew Aug 20 07:45:22 (or the RPM equivalent) Aug 20 07:45:42 It's an other solution but i don't like to change installed names because updates will go wrong. Aug 20 07:46:31 In that case i would prefer something like "ln -s /usr/bin/gcc32 $HOME/bin/gcc;PATH=$HOME/bin:..." Aug 20 07:56:09 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * ra2acaaf4... 10/packages/libol/libol_0.3.16.bb: Remove libol-native dependency, since it's not needed (and don't exist either) Aug 20 08:01:21 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r62714411... 10/packages/ (libol/libol_0.3.16.bb syslog-ng/syslog-ng_1.6.8.bb): Bump PR (sigh) Aug 20 08:06:04 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * ra395e4b6... 10/Makefile: Commented out dropkey code Aug 20 08:13:33 uh, why do I keep getting 3-way merges on everything? Aug 20 08:14:03 use --lca Aug 20 08:14:23 if that fixes it.. why isn't it in the makefile? Aug 20 08:14:53 Because that's a >=.22 thing Aug 20 08:15:13 hm... right.. maybe should install .22 then :) Aug 20 08:15:33 maybe ;) Aug 20 08:17:01 Guess I should update the makefile to force people to install 0.22 ... Aug 20 08:19:05 NAiL: still getting: "checking libol version >= 0.3.16... configure: error: libol-config not found in the specified location" Aug 20 08:19:28 on syslog-ng Aug 20 08:20:11 gurrr Aug 20 08:26:12 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r5a0617c6... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove syslog-ng until fixed Aug 20 08:26:15 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * rb7f772c1... 10/packages/libol/libol_0.3.16.bb: Fix staging Aug 20 08:27:00 DaKa: Try again... rebuild libol, then rebuild syslog-ng Aug 20 08:27:09 ok Aug 20 08:27:10 wrong permissions on libolc-config (not executable) Aug 20 08:29:31 works Aug 20 08:29:51 or, atleast did build Aug 20 08:30:36 yeah, it should work (more or less) Aug 20 08:31:05 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r8d0e7138... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Ok, now syslog-ng works. Rejoice. Aug 20 08:31:18 will syslog-ng work out of the box? log to the right place etc? Aug 20 08:31:34 Not *entirely* sure. It uses the default config file Aug 20 08:31:39 and it has no init-script yet Aug 20 08:31:46 ah.. Aug 20 08:31:54 then it will not work out of the box :-) Aug 20 08:32:23 hehe, no. I haven't had time to do that yet. I've been working on the DS-101 as well ;) Aug 20 08:33:22 :) and I'm still working on apache, spend one minute making a small change, test compile it for 1 hour, start over Aug 20 08:33:37 same way I did with samba ;I) Aug 20 08:34:04 I probably shouldn't say this, but I think this was my last change before time to commit Aug 20 08:34:23 note that I've been thinking that for the last day... Aug 20 08:37:36 the DS-101 sounds good, but damn expensive Aug 20 08:37:40 yes Aug 20 08:37:51 more than 2x the nslu2 Aug 20 08:37:58 yes :( Aug 20 08:38:16 But it looks like it's possible to get the second nic working Aug 20 08:38:26 and with some luck, the minipci slot :P Aug 20 08:38:44 :) heh, the DS-101g+ seems nice Aug 20 08:39:17 more than 3x the nslu2 Aug 20 08:41:41 yeah, but gbit and s-ata :D Aug 20 08:44:21 If they made one with room for 24 harddisks I just might scrap my current fileserver Aug 20 08:44:25 DaKa: not here in .ch: NSLU2: 139, DS-101g+: 399 (sFr that is) Aug 20 08:45:12 mma: hm.. in sweden the nslu2 is 910 SEK, and the DS-101g+ is 2795 SEK Aug 20 08:45:51 DaKa: I've seen the g+ for ~220 USD Aug 20 08:46:19 NAiL: 220*7.5 = 1650 SEK.... Aug 20 08:46:29 yes Aug 20 08:46:38 damn... they added alot.. Aug 20 08:46:50 * DaKa doesn't like the swedish prices... Aug 20 09:30:02 24 hard disks?? Go buy a proper NAS! Aug 20 09:31:17 :) a bit to expensive.. 24 disks in a custom case works too.. Aug 20 09:31:49 24 disks attached to a 266MHz PowerPC would suck. Just go build it yourself or buy a proper NAS Aug 20 09:31:59 There isn't a cheap solution apart from building it yourself Aug 20 09:33:46 yep, I know, not really that serious :) Aug 20 09:34:16 Well. You could try and convince NAiL to design and build one and then sell it to you at below cost... Aug 20 09:34:38 I would think [g2] would be a better designer than me :P Aug 20 09:34:55 Especially since I haven't even started my EE course yet :P Aug 20 09:35:46 My fileserver is working good right now anyway, custom case with lots of IDe-cards and a P800 or something like that Aug 20 09:49:58 <[cc]smart> do we have a addon kernel driver package in OE that i could use as a sample ? Aug 20 09:51:00 hmmm... a kernel module you mean? zd1211, or the at7? Aug 20 09:51:15 at76c503a Aug 20 09:52:27 <[cc]smart> yes, think these will do. thanks Aug 20 09:52:33 np Aug 20 09:57:15 hm, the slug runs on 5V, right? Aug 20 09:58:09 yes Aug 20 09:58:12 5V 2A Aug 20 09:58:21 went to the store today and got the idea that I want to try running a slug off batteries :) Aug 20 09:58:36 wow.. 2A? Aug 20 09:59:03 It doesn't need that much, unless you are going to attach something on both USB ports that pull max power Aug 20 09:59:07 that's the max output of these ..uhm.. spenningsregulatorers I bought :) Aug 20 09:59:15 Ie, it'll run fine off of 1A (or slightly less) Aug 20 09:59:20 ok Aug 20 09:59:41 I wonder how long a regular 9V battery will last :) Aug 20 10:00:07 well Aug 20 10:00:09 well regular as in "super heavy duty" as it says on the packing, hehe Aug 20 10:00:10 Tjere Aug 20 10:00:12 heh Aug 20 10:00:25 The regulator will probably suck up a bit of that power Aug 20 10:00:46 VoodooZ_Log probably knows how long it'll run of of batteries ;) Aug 20 10:01:52 :) Aug 20 10:02:05 off of Aug 20 10:03:35 http://www.2cr5.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Shopping_Universal_Digital_Camera_Power_packs_8.html Aug 20 10:03:38 NAiL: I also have a couple of these babies... Aug 20 10:03:43 (above url) Aug 20 10:04:10 I bought them for my zaurus, but I also use them to charge my phone and various, should work well with slug I guess Aug 20 10:06:20 hm, unknown host today Aug 20 10:06:37 no, there it was Aug 20 10:09:38 aha, cool.. someone did manage to get USB2VGA to work with slug :) Aug 20 10:09:53 that's really nice :) Aug 20 10:09:58 oh, with X11 too? Aug 20 10:10:35 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter Aug 20 10:10:42 says nano-X Aug 20 10:10:55 ah.. Aug 20 10:12:02 soon you can replace your desktop with a slug too, hehe Aug 20 10:20:42 ARGH.. when I finally get apache to compile with pcre from staging and other nice things, then it segfaults... ARGH! Aug 20 10:21:54 oh nice Aug 20 10:25:06 uh.. inittab change: Aug 20 10:25:07 -z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin Aug 20 10:25:07 +z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogini Aug 20 10:25:24 is there really a /sbin/sulogini? Aug 20 10:25:55 sounds italian Aug 20 10:28:06 lol Aug 20 10:28:24 :) Aug 20 10:28:36 DaKa: uh.. who did that change? Aug 20 10:28:59 NAiL: no idea.. probably the one changing the default init level... Aug 20 10:29:17 doubblepress i in vi? Aug 20 10:29:31 I changed the default runlevel ;) Aug 20 10:29:34 :) Aug 20 10:30:00 I guessed that :) Aug 20 10:32:30 * NAiL fixes Aug 20 10:33:22 uh.. apache is failing on mmap stuff.. Aug 20 10:34:00 I really wonder what I changed.. Aug 20 10:36:04 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * rc8a83ebe... 10/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit/openslug/inittab: sulogini -> sulogin typo Aug 20 11:02:21 yay Aug 20 11:02:29 Q3 source has been released as GPL Aug 20 11:02:36 * NAiL starts porting it to OE :P Aug 20 11:02:53 o_O Aug 20 13:56:11 03justinp 07org.openembedded.dev * rb9525cc7... 10/packages/e17/evidence_20050810.bb: Adding evidence Aug 20 15:26:08 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.dev * r47c741e2... 10/conf/machine/nslu2.conf: Set CVSDATE for ipkg-utils for nslu2 firmware. Aug 20 16:16:09 oops, what does this url say about hurd? :-( http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2005-08/threads.html Aug 20 16:28:24 They really want to sell rolex replica's? Aug 20 17:16:49 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r75da9456... 10/packages/efl++/ (4 files): efl++: create .inc file, split into a .bb for -x11 and a .bb for -fb Aug 20 17:16:54 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r84aceb98... 10/packages/evince/evince_0.3.2.bb: evince rdepends on gconf Aug 20 17:16:57 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * rfbc9813e... 10/packages/maemo/osso-gnome-vfs2_2.8.4.4-1.bb: make osso-gnome-vfs2 not PROVIDE gnome-vfs2. If it really PROVIDES it you should add a virtual/gnome-vfs2 providee Aug 20 17:36:39 03rw 07org.openembedded.dev * rffa4e887... 10/classes/module.bbclass: module.bbclass: run depmod/update-modules in postinst/postrm Aug 20 17:36:42 03rw 07org.openembedded.dev * rd185120a... 10/packages/at76c503a/at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb: at76c503a-modules: running update-modules is now done by module.bbclass Aug 20 17:36:44 03rw 07org.openembedded.dev * ra20806f8... 10/packages/bt950-cs/bt950-cs_0.1.bb: bt950-cs: running depmod is now done by module.bbclass Aug 20 18:21:46 03ka6sox 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r82bd07e2... 10/ (Makefile common/openembedded.mk): Added back in -image targets for Master makes for unslung, openembedded, and ucslugc Aug 20 18:21:49 03ka6sox 07org.openembedded.dev * r736b526a... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig): Added usb-audio support Aug 20 18:41:08 03ka6sox 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r1cb64558... 10/Makefile: Fix .PHONY line for ucslugc-image Aug 20 18:43:54 where is CIA's website? Aug 20 18:46:26 http://cia.navi.cx Aug 20 18:50:38 DaKa, thanks. Aug 20 19:14:58 New Slug-Central photos are up: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/slug-central Aug 20 19:18:56 you are going to have to add a second story. Aug 20 19:19:20 or maybe a Veranda Aug 20 19:23:37 ka6sox-away, heh, where's the iMic in those photos? :) Aug 20 19:24:44 oh, that's rw's Aug 20 19:27:43 it is rw's Aug 20 19:28:02 geojeff, were you planning on unslung or openslug? Aug 20 19:28:14 I'm currently working with openslug Aug 20 19:36:32 unslung, but i could do openslug if need be Aug 20 19:42:47 FYI: The org.openembedded.nslu2-linux branch is deprecated, and will be inaccessible later this week. Aug 20 19:43:19 To migrate, just run "make setup ; make update" - you do not need to delete anything, and nothing should rebuild as a result. Aug 20 19:43:38 Hmm - make that "make update ; make setup" Aug 20 19:43:59 (the "make setup" is required to reset your default branch include pattern) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 02:59:56 2005