**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 02:59:56 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 04:44:51 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 04:44:51 2005 Aug 21 06:37:33 anyone have a binary snapshot of the latest openslug flashimage? Aug 21 08:32:34 NAiL, what would the street price of this thingy be? Aug 21 08:32:39 over $300? Aug 21 09:16:28 03rw 07org.openembedded.dev * r63241dba... 10/conf/machine/h3600.conf: h3600.conf: switch to alsa drivers Aug 21 09:25:02 hey rwhitby-away, you around? Aug 21 09:31:36 * kolla_ looks at pics of fatslugs and ponders if there's room for piggy-backing of ram-chips Aug 21 09:31:48 there is and it's been done Aug 21 09:31:52 the batteyr seems to be in the way Aug 21 09:32:05 well, I thought about using sockets Aug 21 09:32:10 you need to temporarily remove the battery holder anyway to change the chips so you just put it on higher Aug 21 09:32:12 sockets? Aug 21 09:32:35 yes, you put a socket upside down ontop of the installed ram chips, and mount new ram on them :) Aug 21 09:32:57 ka6sox-zzzz: I've seen the g+ version (The most expensive one) for ~220 USD Aug 21 09:32:59 what type of socket are you thinking of? Aug 21 09:33:10 chip-sockets.. Aug 21 09:33:11 The ones which can accept those chips have a latch that goes over it Aug 21 09:33:20 uh huh... what type of chip socket... Aug 21 09:33:21 oh.. bah :) Aug 21 09:33:48 it wouldn't be reliable. stack them Aug 21 09:33:50 proper Aug 21 09:33:50 ly Aug 21 09:33:53 Tiersten: the idea was to get a "solder free" solution :) Aug 21 09:34:00 impossible Aug 21 09:34:09 you still need to remove the battery holder Aug 21 09:34:13 yes :) Aug 21 09:34:15 and you need to connect the bank select line Aug 21 09:34:30 kolla_: Do you have chips that work? Do you have two extra? ;) Aug 21 09:34:49 NAiL: no, just thinking so far, no action Aug 21 09:35:19 If you are stacking the chips then you MUST have the same banksize and specs as the existing chips Aug 21 09:35:34 The IXP SDRAM controller doesn't allow you to have different banks. They must be identical Aug 21 09:35:38 kolla_: Ok, I've got a slug with (probably) faulty memory. So I'm looking for some chips to replace the one's I've already got Aug 21 09:35:42 however.. on a completely different matter.. my gamecube booted linux today, and to my surprice it was plenty happy to boot into a stage3 gentoo on nfs-root :) Aug 21 09:36:18 Tiersten: it's not big deal for me, 32MB is plenty enough so far Aug 21 09:36:55 A socket for a TSOP chip is usually only used for testing and looks like http://www.emulation.com/cgi-cfm/insert_quantity.cfm?part_number=S-TSO-SM-048-A, Aug 21 09:37:13 also you don't clamp it from the top Aug 21 09:37:44 you'd want a test clip Aug 21 09:37:47 which aren't small :) Aug 21 09:38:04 heh, will you shut up so I can click the url? thanks :) Aug 21 09:38:10 I tried 3 times Aug 21 09:38:10 :p Aug 21 09:38:16 haha Aug 21 09:38:18 NAiL: Ask DaKa? Aug 21 09:38:30 He might have some lying around considering he upgraded his Aug 21 09:38:36 ok, you can continue now :) Aug 21 09:38:57 Tiersten: Yeah, but kolla is like, right next by, so no shipping would be necessary Aug 21 09:39:24 of course, if DaKa's old chips work, it probably wouldn't cost much to ship 'em Aug 21 09:39:27 DaKa: ping? Aug 21 09:39:43 Didn't think DaKa was that far away anyway... Aug 21 09:40:14 He's in Sweden, I'm in Norway ;) Aug 21 09:40:31 meh. close enough! Aug 21 09:40:40 wrap it well and put it into a letter envelope Aug 21 09:40:45 yeah Aug 21 09:40:48 if you can't afford that postage then well.... Aug 21 09:41:06 Maybe I should yank the ones I've got in the DS-101! ;) Aug 21 09:41:17 are they even the correct type? Aug 21 09:41:31 They work just fine with the IXP in the DS-101 :) Aug 21 09:41:55 Oh. You've got the 101 not the 101g+superhypermega model Aug 21 09:42:00 yes Aug 21 09:42:16 If you're going to change the fundamental parts inside a device then PLEASE give it a new model number... Aug 21 09:42:26 *cough* Linksys can take note Aug 21 09:42:30 hehe Aug 21 09:43:08 It'd be nice if there was some way to discern which hardware revision too... (Intel flash vs. DoC) Aug 21 09:43:53 It changes? Aug 21 09:44:44 Well, Tomshardware has one with intel flash. I can't see which hardware rev it is though, because that's on the backside of the board. Aug 21 09:45:01 I've got a Rev 3.0, which has DoC Aug 21 09:45:03 What DoC you got? Aug 21 09:45:21 Hang on a little while, gotta disassemble it ;) Aug 21 09:45:37 disappointed in you. no pics and lists of part numbers. :p Aug 21 09:45:56 I haven't had time to do it all yet ;) Aug 21 09:49:41 M-Systems DiskOnChip Plus, MD2811-D16-V3Q18, TAIWAN04 1 99ADDX23965 Aug 21 09:50:11 even more disappointed. took you 4 minutes to take it apart! I'd hope you were an expert by now ;) Aug 21 09:50:34 most of the time was spent reading the chip Aug 21 09:50:45 It's dark in the corner where I'm sitting ;) Aug 21 09:52:12 that's one of their old ones Aug 21 09:53:50 http://www.m-systems.com/NR/rdonlyres/1AC482C7-3708-4D66-8B2A-3D9A297A62C0/0/DOC_Millennium_Plus_DS_Rev17.pdf|DOC_Millennium_Plus_DS_Rev1.7.pdf Aug 21 09:53:56 That's the datasheet for it Aug 21 09:56:33 In your case it is probably just appearing like a normal flash but if you do break it then you'll need a commercial programmer to reflash it Aug 21 09:56:41 JTAG Tools doesn't support DoC's Aug 21 09:56:52 ugh Aug 21 09:56:54 not goot Aug 21 09:56:57 good Aug 21 10:03:03 aaargh Aug 21 10:03:13 ? Aug 21 10:03:22 ~lart synology for including uclibc sources when they're really using glibc Aug 21 10:03:22 * jbot whips out a sword and chops synology in half for including uclibc sources when they're really using glibc Aug 21 10:04:14 They're using an incomplete glibc, and I'm wondering if there are any other modifications to it as well Aug 21 10:05:13 ah, the gc is a lot happier with some swap Aug 21 10:05:23 now it emerges nicely :) Aug 21 10:05:24 NAiL: pong? Aug 21 10:05:26 swap? Aug 21 10:05:31 on nfs Aug 21 10:05:31 over the network? Aug 21 10:05:32 ah Aug 21 10:05:39 DaKa: Any spare chips left? ;) Aug 21 10:05:46 just wondering if they'd done swap to a memory card or something daft like that :) Aug 21 10:05:57 A whole 128K or whatever size they are Aug 21 10:06:01 NAiL: I have a pile of untested 8Mx16 Aug 21 10:06:04 hehe, like my zaurus you mean? :) Aug 21 10:06:28 Tiersten: yes, those cards.. nah :) Aug 21 10:06:44 it's insane what pricetags they put on them btw Aug 21 10:06:55 same for sony and microsoft btw :) Aug 21 10:07:26 does anybody actually buy the xbox ones though? Aug 21 10:07:37 I don't have any since I just store it all on the HD Aug 21 10:07:44 Tiersten: The highly overpriced usbsticks? Aug 21 10:07:49 yeah Aug 21 10:07:54 DaKa: Mind selling me two? :D Aug 21 10:07:54 very much :) Aug 21 10:08:04 I've got a 120GB in my xbox Aug 21 10:08:12 So I don't care about memsticks Aug 21 10:08:21 same here Aug 21 10:08:40 Of course, I have an adapter for the XBox-thingy, so I can connect a "normal" memstick Aug 21 10:08:42 NAiL: I might just send them off to you for free Aug 21 10:08:47 even with the standard 8GB HD you're never going to need a memory card unless you want to go to a friends with your save Aug 21 10:08:56 Tiersten: yeah Aug 21 10:09:14 DaKa/NAiL: If they're untested then you could just end up with an equally broken but just in a different spot NSLU2 :) Aug 21 10:09:23 DaKa: I'd be a very happy man. It does look like my current devslug has amnesia :P Aug 21 10:09:57 I'm still curious as to what exactly you've done to those NSLU2s to break them Aug 21 10:09:58 They are still on sdram sticks, so.. just pop into a PC and run some tests Aug 21 10:10:14 DaKa: ah, memtest86 is my friend Aug 21 10:10:31 (And a kernel compile -j 3 for a bunch iterations) Aug 21 10:10:41 :) Aug 21 10:17:02 hmm Aug 21 10:17:13 the DS-101 /linuxrc is actually a symlink to busybox Aug 21 10:19:53 heh Aug 21 10:19:59 busybox is brilliant... Aug 21 10:19:59 bb_error_msg("Bummer, can't print: "); Aug 21 10:20:31 new software coming up for the slug... vblade Aug 21 10:21:01 lets the slug share a device with ATA-over-Ethernet Aug 21 10:21:03 What's that? Aug 21 10:21:53 aha Aug 21 10:21:54 /* Make sure there is enough memory to do something useful. */ Aug 21 10:21:54 check_memory(); Aug 21 10:22:19 hehe Aug 21 10:22:41 anyways, there's an AoE evaluation dingy that costs lke 300USD, and then there's vblade :) Aug 21 10:22:51 aah Aug 21 10:26:11 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r42d69359... 10/packages/efl++/efl++.inc: efl++: catch up with upstream changes Aug 21 10:26:40 man, they're futzing around in the DS-101 boot process Aug 21 10:29:15 # root device is not cleanly unmounted, clear it and copy everything. Aug 21 10:29:25 Yaysis Aug 21 14:26:05 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r6a067ebc... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Add alsa and aumix Aug 21 14:31:20 You guys need the loglibrary module update: http://www.loglibrary.com/plugins/loglibrary-1.01.tar.gz Aug 21 14:51:30 test Aug 21 14:52:03 pong Aug 21 14:54:54 dyoung-zzzz: could you add #ds101-linux to nslu2bot? Aug 21 14:57:47 retest Aug 21 14:59:31 re-re-test Aug 21 15:00:14 re3test Aug 21 15:10:07 03daka 07org.openembedded.dev * rdc18eced... 10/ (.mt-attrs packages/apache/apache_2.0.54.bb): Fix apache to use openssl from staging. Fix depends on pcre and expat. NOTE: still just for native building. Aug 21 15:10:09 03daka 07org.openembedded.dev * r4456e15f... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native-packages.conf: Add pcre and expat, needed for apache, to openslug-native-packages.conf Aug 21 16:13:04 footest Aug 21 16:13:26 cool. Aug 21 16:13:37 Alls back to normal with the logging world. Aug 21 16:13:43 gut Aug 21 16:36:51 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * rcbb257c5... 10/packages/nonworking/alsa-driver/alsadriver_0.9.8.bb: remove obsolete alsa-driver .bb Aug 21 16:36:54 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * rbeee0039... 10/packages/obexpush/ (files/init obexpush_1.0.0.bb): add OBEX Push command line helpers Aug 21 16:36:56 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r280a83c1... 10/packages/obexpush/ (obexpush/add-obextool.patch files/init obexpush_1.0.0.bb): obexpush: add patch for obextool Aug 21 16:36:59 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r80954f6b... 10/packages/obexpush/obexpush_1.0.0.bb: obexpush: ship daemon in sbindir Aug 21 17:01:21 03justinp 07org.openembedded.dev * rbf5a1fae... 10/packages/e17/entrance_20050810.bb: Add RDEPENDS to DEPENDS Aug 21 19:36:22 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r566cacca... 10/packages/qc-usb-messenger/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add Logitech QuickCam Messenger/Communicate webcam kernel module Aug 21 19:36:25 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r7835ddfa... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add spca5xx and qc-usb-messenger packages to OpenSlug feed Aug 21 20:46:08 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * rc081e0ff... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Whoa, missed a backslash Aug 21 20:56:06 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r41910e59... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add lcdproc to OpenSlug feed Aug 21 21:11:04 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * r924f270e... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Add alsa-lib, alsa-utils and aumix to openslug feed. Let there be sound... Aug 21 21:41:05 03nail 07org.openembedded.dev * rc4dfbea6... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove spca5xx from feed, since it breaks autobuild Aug 22 00:04:17 hi Aug 22 00:04:52 hi there. Aug 22 00:06:08 so, what is this unslung 6.x? Any new cool features?\ Aug 22 00:06:29 2.3R63 compatibility is the one big feature Aug 22 00:06:48 unfortunately, last time I checked it was also the one big problem :) Aug 22 00:07:38 anything else? Aug 22 00:07:58 ufsd Aug 22 00:08:08 not included in the base distribution ;) Aug 22 00:08:46 true Aug 22 00:09:05 got another response from Linksys over their non-release or the R63 and the Busybox code Aug 22 00:09:14 "This case is being directly escalated to our Escalation Team for further investigation. A specialist from this group will be contacting you via a response to this message." Aug 22 00:09:45 sent that on Sunday :o Aug 22 01:08:19 hmm Aug 22 01:08:48 * NAiLzzz just got a mail from "Bear Wang" from synology that they'll release their GPL source RSN Aug 22 01:08:59 * NAiLzzz goes back to sleep Aug 22 01:49:56 Bear Wang? Aug 22 01:50:08 Back of the line when the names were handed out Aug 22 01:50:58 nice looking items, though: http://www.synology.com/enu/index.php Aug 22 01:56:07 03rpurdie 07org.openembedded.dev * r3fdee151... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-rc5-mm1.bb: Aug 22 01:56:07 linux-oz-2.6: Add battery and power management (suspend/resume) support for Aug 22 01:56:07 spitz using a driver shared with corgi models. Lots of code rewritten Aug 22 01:56:07 (de-sharped), driver is now about 75% ready for mainline and I have a headache. Aug 22 01:56:07 Please test on corgi+spitz and report battery/power bugs. I am aware the battery Aug 22 01:56:09 voltage measurements are sometimes insane - can't find why though. Turning on Aug 22 01:56:11 the green LED 'fixes' spitz. Would welcome help on this. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 22 02:59:56 2005