**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 29 03:00:00 2005 Oct 29 04:20:28 03eFfeM 07org.openembedded.dev * r7a4b0ead... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Oct 29 04:20:28 nslu2-kernel: added patch in pegasus.h to support Philips CPWUE01/00 network adapter. Oct 29 04:20:28 The maintainer of pegasus.h will put this change in the next official release. Oct 29 04:20:30 03eFfeM 07org.openembedded.dev * rb706375f... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): disapproval of revision 7a4b0eade96c0806e41bfffb4807487e8005ae2a Oct 29 04:20:34 03eFfeM 07org.openembedded.dev * rf827de78... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel/2.6.14/90-pegasus.patch nslu2-kernel_2.6.14.bb): Oct 29 04:20:34 packages/linux/nslu2-kernel/2.6.14/90-pegasus.patch packages/linux/nslu2-kernel_2.6.14.bb: added patch to support Philips CPWUE01/00 usb network adapter Oct 29 04:20:34 This patch is already accepted by the pegasus.h maintainer for inclusion in the next mainstream release. Oct 29 05:02:24 eFfeM: nice work! Oct 29 05:27:12 rwhitby, tnx. it took quite some effort to go to the head again due to changes in /etc and due to 1.6.14 being a lower version nr than 1.6.14-rc5 Oct 29 05:28:18 i'll probably need to update some wiki pages, but I decided to spent the previous hr in the garden, we're having kind of an indian summer here Oct 29 05:29:31 still not sure what to do with pwc (for my philips webcam). It is supported by the latest version (10.0.9) but not by the version in 2.6.14 (which is 9.something) Oct 29 05:30:51 for now I have hacked it in locally (by just overwriting tmp/work/something/linux2.6.14/drivers/usb/media/pwc and only compile but that is of course not the nice way Oct 29 05:31:09 do we have a policy on how to deal with newer kernel modules? Oct 29 05:34:00 isn't there a pwc package in OE ? Oct 29 05:35:04 not sure let me check Oct 29 05:35:24 ah, yes there is, it is at 10.0.7a Oct 29 05:36:31 that's even better, I'll see if I can bring it up to the latest version later today (I'm sure dyoung-away as maintainer would not mind Oct 29 05:37:27 I feel I'm beginning comfortable with small edits and clones for new versions within a package, but doing a package from scratch is still a road too far for me Oct 29 05:37:30 eFfeM: You have my blessing to modify any driver that I'm the maintainer of. Oct 29 05:37:55 dyoung-away, tnx, I knew you wouldn't mind (you already said so with pvrusb2) Oct 29 05:38:26 actually I'm trying to scribble a small recording daemon for pvrusb2 Oct 29 05:38:35 woo ! Oct 29 05:38:50 mind you: 3small1 Oct 29 05:38:58 I tried hacking webvcrplus into shape, but I didnt have much luck there. Oct 29 05:39:53 basically it is a proggie that reads a file called timers which only contains triplets preset,starttime, stoptime and a file channels that maps preset numbers to frequencies Oct 29 05:40:01 eFfeM: odoc was instrumental in helping test the pwc driver stuff. I just put it in, I dont actually own a pwc yet. :-) Oct 29 05:40:15 I meant to; but never got around to it Oct 29 05:41:05 eFfeM: is there a trick to getting it to use 2.6.14 instead of 2.6.14-rc5 ? Oct 29 05:41:11 the daemon then copies from /dev/video0 to the file (just fread/fwrite of 1k blocks, could not find out if mmap from /dev/video would actually work if it is an mpeg stream and decided also that this is a little bit too far Oct 29 05:41:25 2.6.14-git1 has been release Oct 29 05:41:27 d Oct 29 05:41:37 x1205 include. going to modify the cvs. Oct 29 05:42:10 2.6.14 or 2.6.15-git1 ? Oct 29 05:42:15 rwhitby, are you referring to ipkg? I just did a -force-downgrade when installing the modules Oct 29 05:42:32 eFfeM: oh, I was referring to building Oct 29 05:42:38 dyoung-away, I got two 680's from a collegue who had them lying around Oct 29 05:42:53 14 Oct 29 05:43:04 rwhitby, I pulled the head to my system then did bb openslug-image Oct 29 05:43:16 so 2.6.14-git1 is *after* the 2.6.14 release ? Oct 29 05:43:32 triggered by some advice of jbowler-zzz in #openslug Oct 29 05:44:59 then flashed the img, disconnected the hd rebooted, mounted the hd, saved /dev, /etc etc so I could examine the old copies if needed and did a turnup -i -f followed by installing all modules I needed and bashing /etc/init.d again into shape Oct 29 05:45:00 dwery: did I just understand that x1205 is in the 2.6.14-git1 ? Oct 29 05:45:04 all from my own builds Oct 29 05:45:04 thats awesome. Oct 29 05:45:15 dyoung-away: yes. Oct 29 05:45:45 I hope my bug isnt propogated that far.... Oct 29 05:45:50 dyoung-away: it is also the most recent version, with atrim and dtrim reading Oct 29 05:47:39 * dyoung-away cvs up 's Oct 29 05:47:53 dyoung-away, i'm a little bit stuck with version numbers. the latest pwc in the packages is 10.0.7a, the new one is 10.0.9-rc1 Oct 29 05:48:19 will that work fine with making the rc1 as latest version? Oct 29 05:49:41 that should in theory work. Oct 29 05:49:49 ok, i'll try Oct 29 05:50:01 as longn as its not a '_' Oct 29 05:50:54 no it is a - Oct 29 05:59:16 rwhitby: it seems so.. i thought it would have been called 2.6.15-git1 Oct 29 06:25:08 perhaps someone can help me with an annoying nslu2 problem Oct 29 06:25:32 my nslu2 keeps resetting the telnet access code to the linksys default Oct 29 06:26:05 yes i started the nslu2 without harddrives attached, logged in with uNSLUng and got in fine. i then changed the password and copied the new passwd file to /share/hdd/conf/ Oct 29 06:26:21 and it works then, for a while Oct 29 06:26:35 until a reboot. then it all goes back to default. it's driving me crazy Oct 29 06:26:53 install openssh or dropbear Oct 29 06:27:01 i tried that Oct 29 06:27:08 then i get an error that i should get a better entropy Oct 29 06:27:18 and that the encryption appears to be 'blocked' Oct 29 07:03:22 dyoung-away, are you still there Oct 29 07:03:54 I tried to make pwc-10.0.9.rc1 and I failed miserably Oct 29 07:05:20 I copied the directory and bb file from 7a, it downloads the new version, unpacks it and then barfs that it cannot find pwc/Makefile Oct 29 07:05:37 The very same constructs are used in the 7a file and that works like a charm Oct 29 07:05:42 what is wrong here? Oct 29 07:07:09 anyone else a clue? Oct 29 07:09:28 nevermind, I found it, made a typo in the filename ( _ i.s.o - and dyoung-away even warned me about it, silly me) Oct 29 07:17:28 widrone: your debootstrap howto depends on running OpenSlug - it doesn't work on UcSlugC. Oct 29 07:23:07 Hmm - I wonder how much smaller slugos-btg is than slugos-bag ... Oct 29 07:26:09 03eFfeM 07org.openembedded.dev * r8bfbc133... 10/packages/pwc/ (pwc-10.0.9-rc1/Makefile pwc_10.0.9-rc1.bb): packages/pwc: added pwc_10.0.9-rc1 release Oct 29 07:39:09 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.14/30-i2c-x1205.patch: Removed x1205 i2c driver as it has been included in 2.6.14-git1. Oct 29 07:39:49 current tag is NSLU2_2_6_14_git1_1 Oct 29 07:40:46 dwery-away: do we really want to make that change in the 2.6.14 dir, or do we want to start a new 2.6.15 dir ? Oct 29 07:41:10 given that the kernel is 2.6.41-git1 i would use the same dir Oct 29 07:41:55 yes, but neither OE or debian will be using the git1 kernel, so I would start a new 2.6.15 dir for the patchset that will be used for 2.6.15 when it is released. Oct 29 07:42:15 i.e. we want to stabilize on 2.6.14 released for a while. Oct 29 07:42:50 dunno.. .15 directory with .14 tags? sounds confusing Oct 29 07:43:15 .14 directory which doesn't apply against .14 released? even more confusing. Oct 29 07:43:27 we should have a tag for .14 release maybe Oct 29 07:43:46 ok, how about a 2.6.14-git directory then ? Oct 29 07:43:47 it would be also fine to have archives Oct 29 07:43:56 i.e. tar.gz Oct 29 07:44:12 with the patches that needs to be applied to a specific kernel version Oct 29 07:44:25 so that joe user does not need to Oct 29 07:44:29 learn cvs tags usage Oct 29 07:44:46 this repo isn't targetted at joe user Oct 29 07:44:58 exactly.. we could have archives for that Oct 29 07:45:08 basically, I'd like to have the directory name related to the .tar.gz from kernel.org Oct 29 07:45:42 what will be the next .tar.gz from kernel.org after 2.6.14.tar.gz ? Oct 29 07:45:55 I really hope 2.6.15 :D Oct 29 07:46:56 that's why I'd like the new dir to be called 2.6.14-git1 or 2.6.15, but not to change the 2.6.14 files because 2.6.14 has been released. Oct 29 07:47:57 (because we may decide to change patches that are applied against 2.6.14 released, independently of patches that are targetted for 2.6.15. Oct 29 07:47:58 ok.. i'll try to revert the change Oct 29 07:48:22 do you have a copy of the repo just before my change? Oct 29 07:48:36 if yes, could you tag it with NSLU2_2_6_14 ? Oct 29 07:48:41 you should be able to just cvs add the file back again and then cvs commit Oct 29 07:48:59 right.. Oct 29 07:49:34 ok, I tagged it Oct 29 07:53:53 a cvs add on 30-x1205 will do? Oct 29 07:54:02 should do Oct 29 07:54:08 it should get it back from the Attic Oct 29 07:54:51 cvs add: 30-i2c-x1205.patch already exists, with version number 1.2 Oct 29 07:55:13 there must be a way to inform cvs that 1.2 is HEAD Oct 29 07:56:29 03rwhitby * 10kernel/2.6.14/30-i2c-x1205.patch: Resurrected Oct 29 07:56:54 that should do it Oct 29 07:57:01 did you used cvs commit -r HEAD 30-i2c-x1205.patch ? Oct 29 07:57:26 I just did cvs up ; cvs add 2.6.14/30-i2c-x1205.patch ; cvs commit Oct 29 07:57:36 ok Oct 29 07:58:05 should I go with 2.6.14-git or 2.6.15 ? Oct 29 07:58:34 hmm Oct 29 07:58:54 2.6.14-git - then it's crystal clear Oct 29 07:59:31 ok Oct 29 08:02:10 hi can any of you perhaps point me to some info on how entries in /dev are created in openslug with 2.6.14 kernel? Oct 29 08:02:10 When I plugin my webcam it automatically creates /dev/video0, but no audio device, although the cam also has a mic Oct 29 08:02:21 and /proc/bus/usb/devices says I: If#= 2 Alt= 4 #EPs= 1 Cls=01(audio) Sub=02 Prot=00 Driver=snd-usb-audio Oct 29 08:02:33 and snd-usb-audio is of course loaded Oct 29 08:02:43 eFfeM: I think we're using udev now Oct 29 08:03:25 yes and udev is making /dev/video0 for me. /dev/video0 is not there when the cam is disconnected and is created when I connect it, but there is no audio dev created Oct 29 08:03:36 so that kind-a confused me Oct 29 08:09:06 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.14-git/ (16 files): Oct 29 08:09:06 2.6.14-git1, initial import. Oct 29 08:09:06 30-i2c-x1205.pathc is now mainstream. Oct 29 08:09:25 dwery-away: thx Oct 29 08:11:47 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.14-git/defconfig: Oct 29 08:11:47 Enabled the new x1205 driver. Oct 29 08:11:47 Changed CMDLINE to cope with it. Oct 29 08:17:31 widrone: when following the Bootstrap HowTo, I get the following after turnup disk to the debootstrapped partition: Oct 29 08:17:46 Starting periodic command scheduler: cron. Oct 29 08:17:46 INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oct 29 08:17:46 INIT: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oct 29 08:17:46 INIT: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oct 29 08:17:46 INIT: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oct 29 08:17:48 INIT: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oct 29 08:17:48 INIT: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oct 29 08:17:50 INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel Oct 29 08:18:10 will investigate further tomorrow Oct 29 08:30:33 silly q, for some reason I can only ssh to my slug as root after upgrading and not as a regular user (although the user does exist in /etc/passwd Oct 29 08:33:23 this must be a dumb user error but I cannot find an answer in the wiki about this and it used to work in the past .... Oct 29 08:46:21 ARGH! 2.6.14-git1 is crashing badly: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n9f99212.html Oct 29 08:58:20 i think i'll need help to debug it.. Oct 29 09:57:01 rwhitby-asleep, dwery-away: 2.6.14-git is, I think, 2.6.15, but somewhere else is the fork for 2.6.14.1 Oct 29 09:57:32 And 2.6.14-gitX is going to be majorly unstable because it is open for massive changes (if I understand this correctly) Oct 29 09:58:35 The major question in my mind is whether we will have to move to 2.6.14.1 because of some serious generic or ARM issue, I hope not... Oct 29 10:40:17 anyone ever built alsa-driver? the version in packages does not build for me and is quite old and I cannot even get a newer version to pass configure (at least not cross) Oct 29 11:05:47 jbowler-zzz: We should maybe test it under x86, but I can't do that on my machines right now. Oct 29 13:47:55 jbowler-zzz: from here on, I'd like to use the Debian kernel source packages somehow for the kernels - the main reason being that Debian keeps the modules path at /lib/modules/2.6.14/, even for kernel source that is based on 2.6.14.1 Oct 29 15:19:47 rwhitby-asleep: it's not a kernel issue, the kernel doesn't care where a module is in the file system, it's the module utilities. Oct 29 15:21:05 03rpurdie 07org.openembedded.dev * rb3e2a703... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.14-rc4.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Apply some SoC Alsa updates from Liam to dev kernel. Some moves forward, some regressions... Oct 29 15:21:10 03rpurdie 07org.openembedded.dev * ree91eab4... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Oct 29 15:21:10 linux-oz-2.6: Update dev cxx00 kernel to include wm8750. I'm pleased to announce Oct 29 15:21:10 that sound has been heard on spitz through alsa with this driver with some Oct 29 15:21:10 trickery :). Also fix the SADIV bug in the i2s layer so c7x0 doesn't suffer from Oct 29 15:21:10 whale music. Oct 29 15:27:57 jbowler-zzz: but don't those utilities ask the kernel what version it is? and debian kernels always returned 2.6.12 whilst OE kernels returned 2.6.12.2, even though they both had the same patchsets Oct 29 15:28:09 (the same -2 kernel patchsets that is) Oct 29 15:31:43 isnt it what sysctl says that counts? :) Oct 29 15:31:48 sysctl kernel.osrelease Oct 29 15:32:38 that's just asking the kernel too, right? Oct 29 15:33:35 yes Oct 29 16:21:41 rwhitby: UTS_RELEASE in linux/include/linux/version.h, which seems to be a generated file Oct 29 16:25:47 rwhitby: it comes from KERNELRELEASE in the top level Makefile and the problem is that EXTRAVERSION is set, as I remember it a Debian build can set this too, along with LOCALVERSION - it's up to the user when the kernel is build from the Debian package. Oct 29 16:26:44 (I used to routinely change these, and the expectation is that there will be independent module trees, because part of the point is to be able to move things in and out of the kernel). Oct 29 16:27:55 So what we do is to set EXTRAVERSION="" (along with LOCALVERSION) in the arguments to make... Oct 29 16:50:00 jbowler-zzz: that must be what the debian make-kpkg program is doing when it is used to build a debian kernel Oct 29 16:53:12 since we have total freedom in OE, I'd like to make our OE kernel configuration match the debian kernel configuration so that we can share kernels. Oct 29 16:55:20 rwhitby: I was looking at kernel.bbclass, it should be pretty straightforward to kill EXTRAVERSION, just add to EXTRA_OEMAKE. Oct 29 16:56:59 rwhitby: in NSLU2 it makes no sense to have multiple /lib/modules/ directories because they simply won't fit, so there's no reason to have anything other than the kernel version (2.6.14) in there, indeed, we could even live without that Oct 29 16:58:34 ok, so we'll stick with /lib/modules/2.6.14/ until 2.6.15 comes out (and we decide to move to it) ? Oct 29 16:59:05 Because we can only have one set of modules at once (reliably) it does not harm to not have versions - indeed it is better because the old modules might work on the new kernel... Oct 29 16:59:36 Yes - I'll find a way to set EXTRAVERSION to "" in the OE build. Oct 29 17:03:12 huh? Oct 29 17:05:37 as long as it boots.. :) Oct 29 17:06:03 I didnt like that ipkg removed old modules when upgrading though Oct 29 17:06:17 but that's an OE issue Oct 29 17:06:19 jbowler-zzz: let's still keep the /lib/modules/{2.6.14,2.6.15} distinction at that level Oct 29 17:07:10 I think so, because the kernel is most unlikely to be able to boot with 2.6.14 modules on a 2.6.15 kernel. Oct 29 17:07:30 So there is no real point to removing that distinction - it's just misleading. Oct 29 17:07:49 agreed. Oct 29 17:08:16 as long as /lib/modules/$(uname -r) works :) Oct 29 17:45:47 03rpurdie 07org.openembedded.dev * ra2b0044d... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.14-rc4.bb: linux-oz-2.6: dev kernel sound updates. Add sysfs control to c7x0 to enable/disable speaker/earphones (+same for cxx00). Many improvements to wm8750 driver. Oct 29 22:04:29 03jbowler * 10kernel/2.6.14/ (90-pegasus.patch 50-nslu2-arch.patch 16-ixp4xx-ioremap.patch): Oct 29 22:04:29 Add pegasus/Philips device patch. Oct 29 22:04:29 Update the nslu2 architecture (50-nslu2-arch) patch with l-a-k feedback Oct 29 22:04:29 Remove patch to eliminate a desireable compiler warning (l-a-k feedback) Oct 29 22:08:59 Hey there. Oct 29 22:09:58 Just inquiring on the status of your server switch, let me know if you need (free) space. That server I mentioned a while ago to rwhitby is still available Oct 30 01:09:13 any info on ipkg-fr-jeanfabrice.nslu2-linux.org? seems to be down **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 30 02:59:56 2005