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Mar 02 12:12:46 <winkle> can someone recommend a _good_ usb disk? I've had 2 LaCie p3 250gb and they both died after a year of 24/h usage... :(
Mar 02 12:33:01 <oleo> rwhitby: WD3200
Mar 02 12:59:39 <philpem> hi folks. i've been looking at the "make the slug power on automatically" page on the wiki, and noticed the microcontroller solution that rather helpfully includes no source code
Mar 02 13:01:40 <philpem> seeing as i have way too many PIC micros sitting in boxes doing nothing, i was going to throw together some pic code to do the job of the attiny, and release the code. would anyone be interested in that, or are you all using the PEM board? :)
Mar 02 13:02:33 <philpem> we're talking single-chip-and-a-bit-of-wire, $1 solution here...
Mar 02 13:46:13 <VoodooZ> philpem, the attiny sounds perfect for the job.
Mar 02 13:47:04 <VoodooZ> I'm currently using the power supervisor TO-92 can but I might need a more complex solution once I give my robot the ability to charge itself.
Mar 02 14:14:03 <philpem> VoodooZ: the thing is, i don't have an attiny or an attiny programmer
Mar 02 14:14:24 <philpem> so what i was going to do is use a microchip (www.microchip.com) PIC12F629.
Mar 02 14:15:06 <philpem> the chip powers on, comes out of reset, then waits two seconds or so and hits the PRESET input with a 200ms low pulse. after that it goes completely idle.
Mar 02 14:15:44 <VoodooZ> that should do too. I'm just more of an AVR fan. :) (but i started out with PICs).
Mar 02 14:16:08 <VoodooZ> The programmers are dead simple if you ever need a schematic. It's a 24x quad buffer basically.
Mar 02 14:16:15 <philpem> yeah i noticed.
Mar 02 14:16:37 <philpem> thing about the pic is i've got a load of them in boxes gathering dust, and i've got an ICD2 programmer as well
Mar 02 14:16:57 <VoodooZ> that makes a lot more sense then.
Mar 02 14:17:04 <philpem> programming would be a case of dragging out the icd2, plugging it in, wiring it to a chip and firing up mplab.
Mar 02 14:17:22 <VoodooZ> You could try to build a super-computer too! ;)
Mar 02 14:17:33 <philpem> gee, my nslu2 hasn't even been out of the box three hours an already i'm talking about hardware hacks :)
Mar 02 14:17:53 <ixphacker> you waited that long? ;)
Mar 02 14:18:13 <philpem> ixphacker: i installed openslug within 10 minutes of getting my laptop to see it :P
Mar 02 14:18:43 <VoodooZ> hehehe
Mar 02 14:19:14 <philpem> "this is for seasoned linux users, not the people who actually like the linksys admin interface"
Mar 02 14:19:27 <VoodooZ> hahaha
Mar 02 14:20:11 <philpem> what i need to do *now* is get eciadsl ported over. the prerequisite to that being installing the crosscompiling tools on my laptop, then figuring out how to turn it into an ipkg
Mar 02 14:20:54 <oleo> I am also considering nslu2 for my embeded project. But wl500g seems to be better choice (more ethernet ports, wireless, onboard serial and USB). What bothers me is the size? And maybe speed? 
Mar 02 14:21:29 <philpem> i'm using the slug 'cos it's small, quiet and hackable :)
Mar 02 14:25:33 <oleo> Are there any speed comparition tests wl500g vs nslu2. I am really interested in this as I currently own wl500gx and USB performance is SLOW! 
Mar 02 14:31:08 <philpem> who's responsible for managing the package search engine?
Mar 02 14:32:24 <philpem> text search seems to be badly broken - entering anything into the search box makes it fail with a "Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/nslu/ipkgfind/htdocs/result.php on line 127", but category browsing is fine.
Mar 02 15:32:51 <philpem> woohoo, the pic's done. now to find some hookup wire...
Mar 02 15:33:04 <VoodooZ> fast!
Mar 02 15:33:35 <philpem> just installing opendebian on the slug. openslug's package availability is a little on the poor side
Mar 02 15:34:22 <philpem> or rather "i can get eciadsl precompiled for debian-armdb, which saves me trying to figure out how optware works"
Mar 02 15:35:21 * philpem wonders who's nicked his duct tape
Mar 02 15:53:11 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/Makefile: python still broken for wl500g
Mar 02 16:32:05 <VoodooZ> NAiL, Just to let you know, I'm getting the tinderclient.bbclass 3-way merge thing again. Make update worked the last few days. I didn't change anything. In fact, I only keep it updated.
Mar 02 16:34:15 <NAiL> does the previous fix work to remove the merges?
Mar 02 16:35:15 <VoodooZ> I'll try that.
Mar 02 16:35:52 <NAiL> if that works, someone who *hasn't* removed those revs from their repo has synced
Mar 02 16:36:11 <VoodooZ> i see.
Mar 02 16:36:48 <VoodooZ> The for loop thing gives me: monotone: misuse: revision 9c1b32d8825be71ddfdcbe3ddfa31b4cc8bb2aa0 already has children. We cannot kill it.
Mar 02 16:37:19 <NAiL> yeah, that one is harmless
Mar 02 16:37:27 <VoodooZ> oops. I forgot. sorry
Mar 02 16:37:41 <VoodooZ> updating...
Mar 02 16:41:46 <VoodooZ> nah! Same thing happens.
Mar 02 16:42:02 <VoodooZ> forget it. I'll just wait for the release.
Mar 02 16:45:05 <philpem> has anyone here built the kernel module 'ppp-synctty' for openslug?
Mar 02 16:45:34 <philpem> need it for eciadsl, but it's not in ipkg or debian.
Mar 02 16:49:27 <NAiL> VoodooZ: The repo is broken. Just stick with svn.
Mar 02 16:49:34 <NAiL> svn doesn't break this way
Mar 02 16:51:51 * mwester prefers subversion, but probably only because of familiarity...
Mar 02 16:52:03 <VoodooZ> NAiL, ok. thanks.
Mar 02 16:54:32 <NAiL> Yeah, I like svn too
Mar 02 16:56:22 <philpem> ok, i'm trying to get the 'master makefile' to build a kernel, but I'm getting "monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads". anyone know of a fix?
Mar 02 17:32:14 <CIA-8> 03repvik * r276 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.7-beta/openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add PPP_SYNC_TTY=m
Mar 02 17:35:46 <CIA-8> 03repvik * r277 10/releases/slugos-3.6-beta/openembedded/packages/linux/ (ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/defconfig ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.15.1.bb): Add PPP_SYNC_TTY=m and PPP_MPPE=m
Mar 02 17:39:24 <NAiL> philpem: not really. I'm just getting confused by the recent monotone errors. You could try using slugos-3.6-beta from svn instead
Mar 02 18:36:31 <Lordeiffel> ok mwester just did
Mar 02 18:36:33 <Eiffel> cd /var/run; rm *.pid; DO_Reboot
Mar 02 18:36:49 <Lordeiffel> but the ntfs systems doesn´t show up
Mar 02 18:36:54 <Lordeiffel> after reboot again :-(
Mar 02 19:20:30 <mwester> Lordeiffel (Eiffel): That's strange.  That's two problem that can stop the auto detect from mounting the device that have been found and fixed; maybe there exists yet another?  In any case, the changes are all checked in, so building the monotone head will get the changes.  I''ve run out of things to try in order to make mine *NOT* automagically mount the hard drive or flash drive!  (perhaps...
Mar 02 19:20:30 <mwester> ...you could try building the head and reflashing/reslinging again)
Mar 02 19:24:31 <Eiffel> ok
Mar 02 23:48:14 <Lordeiffel> mwester i just installed the 6.7alpha
Mar 02 23:48:29 <Lordeiffel> ntfs mounting isn´t working only ext3
Mar 02 23:48:48 <Lordeiffel> i am not unslung at the moment
Mar 02 23:55:56 <Lordeiffel> cd /var/run; rm *.pid; DO_Reboot
Mar 02 23:56:00 <Lordeiffel> didn´t help
Mar 02 23:56:13 <mwester> Ok - thanks.  That's not good news.  I guess now I'm wondering if the Linksys code will recognize your drive at all!  (BTW, you are plugging the NTFS drive into port 1, right?)  -- perhaps before you go through all the trouble of unslinging again, you might try to see if the drive will automagically mount with the native R63 firmware from Linksys.
Mar 02 23:56:58 <Lordeiffel> yes did that already 2 days ago and it worked :-/
Mar 02 23:57:03 <Lordeiffel> dunno whats wrong
Mar 02 23:57:20 <Lordeiffel> maybe i should try fat32?
Mar 03 00:00:42 <mwester> You could, I suppose...  Can you check the log file -- what's the last 10 or 20 lines from /var/log/messages?
Mar 03 00:02:55 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Mar 03 00:03:03 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on sd(8,1), intern
Mar 03 00:03:09 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Mar 03 00:04:01 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Mar 03 00:04:11 <Lordeiffel> argh
Mar 03 00:04:13 <Lordeiffel> mom
Mar 03 00:04:20 <Lordeiffel> stupd mozillachat
Mar 03 00:04:56 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Mar 03 00:04:57 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on sd(8,1), intern
Mar 03 00:04:59 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Mar 03 00:05:00 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Mar 03 00:05:02 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on sd(8,2), intern
Mar 03 00:05:03 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3-fs: recovery complete.
Mar 03 00:05:05 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:47 klogd: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Mar 03 00:05:07 <Lordeiffel> <43>Jan  1 01:00:51 klogd: VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sd(8,17).
Mar 03 00:05:08 <Lordeiffel> <46>Jan  1 01:00:52 klogd: Adding Swap: 120480k swap-space (priority -1)
Mar 03 00:05:09 <Lordeiffel> <46>Mar  3 00:59:22 klogd: EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on sd(8,1), intern
Mar 03 00:05:11 <Lordeiffel> <36>Mar  3 01:00:18 login[640]: invalid password for `root' on `ttyp0' from `192
Mar 03 00:05:12 <Lordeiffel> <38>Mar  3 01:00:29 login[640]: root login  on `ttyp0' from `192.168.0.132'
Mar 03 00:06:18 <Lordeiffel> do you need more lines befor that `?
Mar 03 00:06:30 <mwester> And the output from 'ps -ef | grep USB'?
Mar 03 00:06:55 <Lordeiffel> ps -ef | grep USB
Mar 03 00:06:57 <Lordeiffel>   495         root       1904   S   /usr/sbin/USB_Detect
Mar 03 00:06:58 <Lordeiffel>   499         root       1900   S   /usr/sbin/USB_Detect
Mar 03 00:07:00 <Lordeiffel>   643 ttyp0   root       2668   S   grep USB
Mar 03 00:07:41 <mwester> And, finally: cat /var/run/usb_det.pid
Mar 03 00:07:59 <Lordeiffel> cat /var/run/usb_det.pid
Mar 03 00:08:01 <Lordeiffel> 499
Mar 03 00:08:16 <mwester> Well, all that looks quite correct.
Mar 03 00:10:58 <Lordeiffel> what do i need to type to mount it manualy ?
Mar 03 00:11:00 <Lordeiffel> mount ufsd /dev/sda1 /test ?
Mar 03 00:11:36 <mwester> It looks like it probes the second disk, identifies that it doesn't have an ext3 filesystem, but then we don't see any mention of attempts to do anything else with it.   Lemme go see what the command is to mount manually, it's a big one.
Mar 03 00:15:39 <Lordeiffel> mount
Mar 03 00:15:40 <Lordeiffel> /dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:42 <Lordeiffel> /proc on /proc type proc (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:44 <Lordeiffel> usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:45 <Lordeiffel> /dev/mtdblock4 on /dev.state type jffs2 (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:46 <Lordeiffel> ramfs on /dev type ramfs (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:48 <Lordeiffel> /dev/mtdblock4 on /var.state type jffs2 (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:49 <Lordeiffel> ramfs on /var type ramfs (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:51 <Lordeiffel> /dev/sda1 on /share/flash/data type ext3 (rw)
Mar 03 00:15:52 <Lordeiffel> /dev/sda2 on /share/flash/conf type ext3 (rw,sync)
Mar 03 00:15:54 <Lordeiffel> none on /tmp type ramfs (rw)
Mar 03 00:16:15 <Lordeiffel> hm should n´t it be /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 as it s on port2 not 1 ?!?
Mar 03 00:19:45 <mwester> command is: /bin/mount -tufsd  /dev/sdb1  /mnt -o umask=0007,fmask=0760,dmask=0770,uid=501,gid=501,iocharset=cp437
Mar 03 00:21:44 <Lordeiffel> ok that did it at least the ufsd modul is working
Mar 03 00:21:46 <Lordeiffel> only question now whats wrong with automounting
Mar 03 00:36:09 <Lordeiffel> i am off 
Mar 03 00:36:12 <Lordeiffel> tomorrow we could look at the automount process
Mar 03 05:27:56 <CIA-8> 03rpedde * 10unslung/make/mt-daapd.mk: Updates for iTunes 6.0.4
Mar 03 06:53:57 <oleo> rwhitby: Looking at buildlogs/autobuild-gastro-last.txt I see that cvs.sourceforge.net: Connection timed out
Mar 03 06:54:19 <rwhitby> yep, sf is quite flakey
Mar 03 06:55:16 <oleo> I am waiting for libuclibc++ for wl500g which patches also toolchain with new libraries. 
Mar 03 06:57:40 <oleo> Timeout occured also yesterday! So there must be some problem with this automata.
Mar 03 08:12:05 <CIA-8> 03oleon * 10unslung/make/strace.mk: strace: upstream upgrade to 4.5.14
Mar 03 09:33:18 <NAiL> morning, dwery ;)
Mar 03 09:33:24 <dwery> morning :)
Mar 03 09:36:32 <NAiL> the freecom mediaplayer thingy is reasonably priced
Mar 03 09:36:44 <NAiL> unlike the other similar solutions
Mar 03 09:41:29 <dwery> mp3 non network?
Mar 03 09:41:36 <NAiL> hmm?
Mar 03 09:41:41 <dwery> media player 3
Mar 03 09:41:51 <dwery> it seems it runs on an EMxxxx cpu
Mar 03 09:42:36 <NAiL> EM? 
Mar 03 09:43:28 <dwery> EM85xx
Mar 03 09:44:00 <dwery> FreecomV.5.08.31.duh: romfs filesystem, version 1 4080560 bytes, named DVDPLAYER 0.0.0 2005. 08. 18. (.
Mar 03 09:46:34 <NAiL> hmm... a 4mb romfs?
Mar 03 09:47:45 <dwery> 8mb actually
Mar 03 09:48:07 <NAiL> uh, how big is the firmware?
Mar 03 09:48:07 <dwery> I don't have romfs compiled in but I think dyoung-zzzz opened it a few month ago
Mar 03 09:48:48 <dyoung-zzzz> Hmm?
Mar 03 09:49:01 <dyoung-zzzz> I can look it again.
Mar 03 09:49:05 <dyoung-zzzz> hang on
Mar 03 09:49:08 <dwery> :)
Mar 03 09:49:14 <NAiL> hehe :)
Mar 03 09:50:37 <dwery> dtsinfo.jpg:    JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01
Mar 03 09:50:37 <dwery> etc:            directory
Mar 03 09:50:37 <dwery> fileplayer.bin: BFLT executable - version 4 ram
Mar 03 09:50:37 <dwery> fipmodule.o:    ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), not stripped
Mar 03 09:50:37 <dwery> fonts:          directory
Mar 03 09:50:37 <dwery> img:            directory
Mar 03 09:50:39 <dwery> khwl.o:         ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), not stripped
Mar 03 09:50:41 <dwery> linux.bin.gz:   gzip compressed data, was "linux.bin", from Unix
Mar 03 09:50:43 <dwery> minimod:        BFLT executable - version 4 ram
Mar 03 09:50:45 <dwery> mpegplayer.bin: BFLT executable - version 4 ram
Mar 03 09:52:40 <dwery> kernel_version=2.4.17-uc0
Mar 03 09:52:40 <dwery> description=Remote control and front panel driver module
Mar 03 09:52:40 <dwery> author=Vincent Trinh, Fabrice Gautier
Mar 03 09:52:40 <dwery> license=Proprietary. Copyright (c) 2002 Sigma Designs Inc. All rights reserved.
Mar 03 09:52:40 <dwery> kernel_version=2.4.17-uc0
Mar 03 09:53:21 <NAiL> They've got that part as a module? That's a bit annoying.
Mar 03 09:53:25 <NAiL> Are there any other modules?
Mar 03 09:54:25 <dwery> a couple
Mar 03 09:54:31 <dwery> probably related to the video
Mar 03 09:55:32 <dwery> Linux version 2.4.17-uc0 (kimskr@klocalhost.localdomain) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #1375 2005. 08. 11. (
Mar 03 09:56:10 <NAiL> I would want the video to work though ;)
Mar 03 09:57:23 <dwery> dunno if that module is video or OSD.. it seems more OSD
Mar 03 09:57:33 <NAiL> hmm
Mar 03 09:58:07 <NAiL> I could probably live without OSD
Mar 03 09:58:25 <dyoung-zzzz> ok
Mar 03 09:58:27 <dyoung-zzzz> http://www.dyoung.org/devices/FreecomV.5.08.31.tar.gz
Mar 03 09:58:27 <dwery> dunno: SiI168 DVI Transmitter
Mar 03 09:58:52 <dyoung-zzzz> does that help?
Mar 03 09:59:30 <dwery> dyoung-zzzz: I've just dissected it :)
Mar 03 09:59:35 <dwery> btw, i found this: http://who.is.free.fr/wiki/index.php?SigmaDesign
Mar 03 09:59:45 <dyoung-zzzz> aw man!
Mar 03 09:59:48 <dyoung-zzzz> youre too fast for me
Mar 03 10:01:25 <dwery> seems a quite common chipset among dvd players
Mar 03 10:02:04 <dwery> the kiss1000 has the same modules
Mar 03 10:02:59 <NAiL> hmm
Mar 03 10:03:16 * rwhitby is missing out on all the fun
Mar 03 10:03:18 <NAiL> kiss is more forward about OSS, isn't it?
Mar 03 10:03:52 <dwery> yes
Mar 03 10:04:33 <dwery> I header voices that the mpeg player may be base on mplayer and thus in violation of the gpl
Mar 03 10:05:15 * NAiL sees Harald Welte wield an axe
Mar 03 10:05:24 <dwery> s/yes/no/
Mar 03 10:05:25 <dwery> http://user.it.uu.se/~alse7905/EM85xxDVD/
Mar 03 10:07:02 <dwery> ile       : fipmodule.c
Mar 03 10:07:02 <dwery>  * Authors    : Albert Seward <alse7905@student.uu.se>
Mar 03 10:07:02 <dwery>  *              Erik Thyrén <erth7411@student.uu.se>
Mar 03 10:07:15 <dwery> these two guys did rev eng of the display driver
Mar 03 10:07:19 <dwery> and of other things as well
Mar 03 10:09:32 <dwery> we might just raise a few bucks and seed those two guys with a mediaplayer :-D
Mar 03 10:12:09 <NAiL> not an entirely bad idea, no :)
Mar 03 10:12:30 <dwery> I don't know if anyone ported 2.6 to the em85xx
Mar 03 10:13:49 <NAiL> "exiting from middle of somewhere" <-- oh yes
Mar 03 10:14:56 <dwery> it seems there's quite good support for front panel and osd anyway
Mar 03 10:18:06 <NAiL> hmm
Mar 03 10:18:10 <NAiL> I like the box
Mar 03 10:19:01 <dwery> me too, but given that there's no source to the kernel
Mar 03 10:19:29 <dwery> I don't know if it's any useful.
Mar 03 10:20:20 <NAiL> hmm
Mar 03 10:20:43 <NAiL> it appears to be using... DoC!
Mar 03 10:37:15 <dwery> !
Mar 03 10:37:24 <dwery> where did you saw it?
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