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Mar 18 13:06:56 <dwery> NAiL: ping
Mar 18 13:07:49 <NAiL> pong
Mar 18 13:08:13 <dwery> do you have some time to test the cvs?
Mar 18 13:08:20 <NAiL> sure
Mar 18 13:08:26 <dwery> ok
Mar 18 13:08:42 <dwery> I think the ide patch needs to be updated
Mar 18 13:09:50 <NAiL> you saw my attempts to build with the makefile?
Mar 18 13:10:06 <dwery> yes
Mar 18 13:10:42 <dwery> ok, I'm uploading the new libata/pata
Mar 18 13:11:43 <CIA-8> 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/patch-2.6.16-rc6-ide1: Added patch-2.6.16-rc6-ide1
Mar 18 13:12:31 <NAiL> which -git are you using?
Mar 18 13:12:36 <dwery> actually, git1
Mar 18 13:12:48 <dwery> can you change your series
Mar 18 13:12:52 <dwery> to use the new ide patch
Mar 18 13:12:57 <dwery> and see if it applies correctly?
Mar 18 13:13:41 <NAiL> trying now
Mar 18 13:13:51 <NAiL> trying with git1 first
Mar 18 13:14:04 <dwery> ok
Mar 18 13:16:54 <NAiL> leds and nas100d-stuff still fails to apply
Mar 18 13:16:58 <dwery> ok
Mar 18 13:17:10 <dwery> can you please post the relevant lines?
Mar 18 13:17:53 <NAiL> http://pastebin.com/608986
Mar 18 13:18:41 <dwery> you're using quilt, right?
Mar 18 13:20:08 <NAiL> I don't think the makefile uses quilt
Mar 18 13:20:14 <dwery> mmm
Mar 18 13:20:35 <dwery> because include/linux/leds.h is generated by leds-class.patch
Mar 18 13:20:43 <dwery> so it is strange that it doesn't apply
Mar 18 13:24:08 <NAiL> bbiaw, need to lie down
Mar 18 13:24:25 <dwery> w?
Mar 18 13:44:11 <NAiL> flu
Mar 18 13:45:18 <dwery> oh!
Mar 18 13:45:23 <dwery> didn't know
Mar 18 13:45:57 <dwery> sleep well
Mar 18 13:46:19 <NAiL> Nah, I'm not sleeping, just lying down once in a while
Mar 18 13:46:36 <dwery> sleep!
Mar 18 13:46:38 <dwery> :-D
Mar 18 13:46:50 <NAiL> yeah, I should. But I can't right now.
Mar 18 14:09:16 <dwery> dyoung-zzzz: ping
Mar 18 14:11:53 <dyoung-zzzz> dwery: lemme get back to you in around 8hrs when I wake up.
Mar 18 14:12:03 <dwery> ok, don't worry :)
Mar 18 14:12:16 <dwery> Just wanted to tell that serial works
Mar 18 14:12:23 <dyoung-zzzz> cool!
Mar 18 14:12:30 <dwery> tftp does not however :(
Mar 18 14:12:49 <dyoung-zzzz> Oh yeah, redboot is braindamaged there.
Mar 18 14:12:54 <dyoung-zzzz> you gotta xmodem the stuffs in
Mar 18 14:13:18 <NAiL> ymodem is *slightly* faster :-D
Mar 18 14:13:31 <dwery> will do. we'll need to find a good redoot to use as second stage bootloader
Mar 18 14:13:46 <NAiL> s/redoot/apex/ ? ;)
Mar 18 14:14:00 <dyoung-zzzz> Or make dsmboot :-)
Mar 18 14:14:11 <dwery> wait wait? dsmboot?
Mar 18 14:14:27 <dyoung-zzzz> sorta like ludeboot
Mar 18 14:14:35 <dyoung-zzzz> except with the cicada bits in there.
Mar 18 14:14:37 <dwery> it exists already?
Mar 18 14:14:58 <dyoung-zzzz> no, dsmboot is only a figment of my imagination atm. :-)
Mar 18 14:15:13 <dwery> ok, better you got to sleep or your immagination will cause some damage :)
Mar 18 14:15:22 <dyoung-zzzz> nighty.
Mar 18 14:15:29 <dwery> night!
Mar 18 14:15:35 <dwery> NAiL: does apex support via eth?
Mar 18 14:21:21 <dwery> no :(
Mar 18 14:27:17 <dwery> [g2]: ping
Mar 18 15:51:43 <eddyp> when I want to install a new image through the web interface I am not presented with a "Start Upgrade" button in the upgrade page, only "Enter Upgrade Mode". How can I flash the new image?
Mar 18 16:07:18 <EvilDevil> i'm not sure. maybe you have to use the Sercomm Upgrade Utility
Mar 18 16:07:41 <eddyp> I used the upslug2 utility
Mar 18 16:07:58 <eddyp> but now I can't find it on the network
Mar 18 16:08:01 <eddyp> :-/
Mar 18 16:08:59 <EvilDevil> did upslug complain about a bad flash?
Mar 18 16:09:11 <eFfeM> eddyp: what version are you running?
Mar 18 16:10:07 <eddyp> no, it did not
Mar 18 16:10:14 <eddyp> I want to install Debian 
Mar 18 16:10:33 <eddyp> following tbm's instructions
Mar 18 16:10:34 <EvilDevil> there might be a problem with the slug getting it's ip address. 
Mar 18 16:11:02 <eddyp> It was configured as 192.168.1.254 before the flashing
Mar 18 16:11:10 <eFfeM> yeah, but what do you have now: linksys kernel? unslung? openslug? which version ?
Mar 18 16:11:29 <EvilDevil> make sure the slug is connected to a dhcp server and try to read the dhcp server's lease table
Mar 18 16:11:42 <eddyp> eFfeM: it was unslung, now it should be the d-i image
Mar 18 16:12:05 <eFfeM> if you get an enter upgrade mode msg in your browser when surfing to the device it is definitely up and running and responding to its address
Mar 18 16:12:06 <eddyp> hmm the status led is yellow
Mar 18 16:12:44 <eFfeM> yellow means it is still running startup scripts
Mar 18 16:12:57 <eFfeM> can you ping it?
Mar 18 16:14:30 <eddyp> no :(
Mar 18 16:14:58 <eFfeM> but you got this "enter upgrade mode" msg when accessing it in your browser?
Mar 18 16:15:13 <eddyp> it was before flashing
Mar 18 16:15:17 <eFfeM> ah, ok
Mar 18 16:15:25 <eFfeM> led is steady yellow ?
Mar 18 16:15:36 <eddyp> yes
Mar 18 16:15:42 <eddyp> network is green
Mar 18 16:15:52 <eFfeM> network is always green
Mar 18 16:15:59 <eFfeM> is a hard disk connected?
Mar 18 16:16:06 <eFfeM> or stick?
Mar 18 16:16:11 <eddyp> do I have to do the "catch the redboot" game?
Mar 18 16:16:19 <eddyp> eFfeM now, yes
Mar 18 16:16:29 <eddyp> hdd connected
Mar 18 16:16:38 <NAiL> catching redboot is simple if you have a linux-box
Mar 18 16:16:43 <eFfeM> maybe, I would suggest to remove all usb devices then reboot and see what happens
Mar 18 16:16:52 <eddyp> ok, will try
Mar 18 16:16:58 <eFfeM> catch redboot can still be done
Mar 18 16:17:30 <eFfeM> i've been told that pressing reset for 5 seconds will also get you in upgrade mode, but I never managed to get that done reliably; I always use redboot
Mar 18 16:17:55 <NAiL> arping -f <redboot-ip> && telnet <redboot-ip>
Mar 18 16:18:03 <NAiL> That should do the telnet-into-redboot-trick
Mar 18 16:18:14 <NAiL> I rarely use it, since I've got my slugs serialized
Mar 18 16:18:28 <NAiL> (and not all of my slugs have redboot ;)
Mar 18 16:18:58 <NAiL> arping -f <redboot-ip> && telnet <redboot-ip> 9000, actually
Mar 18 16:19:55 <eFfeM> yup, i also always use the arping trick
Mar 18 16:19:58 <eFfeM> btw hello NAiL
Mar 18 16:20:04 <NAiL> hello :)
Mar 18 16:20:33 <eddyp> arping: invalid option -- f 
Mar 18 16:22:26 <eFfeM-away> (dinner)
Mar 18 16:22:46 <NAiL> eddyp: what OS are you using?
Mar 18 16:22:55 <eddyp> debian unstable
Mar 18 16:23:04 <NAiL> arping --versiobn
Mar 18 16:23:09 <NAiL> s/iobn/ion/
Mar 18 16:23:09 <jbot_> NAiL meant: arping --version
Mar 18 16:23:13 <eddyp> I am in redboot
Mar 18 16:23:17 <eddyp> I used my trick
Mar 18 16:23:23 <eddyp> ping -f 
Mar 18 16:23:32 <NAiL> ah
Mar 18 16:23:36 <NAiL> good
Mar 18 16:23:46 <AwayNAiL> bbl
Mar 18 16:50:13 <eddyp> somebody fscked the RecoverFromABadFlash page
Mar 18 16:50:19 * eddyp fixing it now
Mar 18 17:09:08 <tbm> eddyp: what's up?
Mar 18 17:11:15 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/swi-prolog.mk): swi-prolog ready for testing, built with most swi-prolog packages
Mar 18 17:40:07 <lesbleus> anyone managed to get debootstrap working on nslu2 ?
Mar 18 17:40:21 <lesbleus> mine fails at 68%
Mar 18 17:43:32 * lesbleus is away - back to the rugby -(17:48:47 p:on)7,2 -t0e7- 
Mar 18 17:52:38 <CIA-8> 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/ (10-ixp4xx-fix-irq.patch series): 
Mar 18 17:52:38 <CIA-8> updated series for latest libata/pata patch, added ixp4xx
Mar 18 17:52:38 <CIA-8> irq fixup (this fixes eth and ide on dsmg600)
Mar 18 19:21:04 <eddyp> tbm: I can't see the NSLu after flashing it with the di image
Mar 18 19:21:23 <tbm> eddyp: define "cannot see"
Mar 18 19:22:00 <eddyp> tbm: it was configured as 192.168.... Yeah!
Mar 18 19:22:03 <eddyp> found it
Mar 18 19:22:12 <eddyp> thanks nmap
Mar 18 19:22:30 <tbm> are you running a dhcp server?
Mar 18 19:22:33 <eddyp> tbm: it took a dhcp address
Mar 18 19:22:54 <eddyp> from my router (actually a Mac OSX laptop)
Mar 18 19:23:03 <tbm> right.  was this not expected?   was the firmware configured to have a static ip?
Mar 18 19:23:31 <eddyp> tbm: the unslung that was configured before had 192.168.1.254
Mar 18 19:23:34 <eddyp> static
Mar 18 19:25:00 <pepijn> did you run 'turnup preserve' after configuration ?
Mar 18 19:25:03 <tbm> can you give me a dump of /dev/mtd<something.  (look for SysConf in /proc/mtd for the number)
Mar 18 19:25:34 <eddyp> I could if I could log in :-/
Mar 18 19:25:36 <pepijn> when i ran d-i i had similar problems and it turned out the SysConf had old values
Mar 18 19:25:42 <tbm> oh, _unslung_ was configured that way.  how is unslung configured?  Does it use SysCof or something else?
Mar 18 19:26:01 <tbm> eddyp: cannot you restart the machine and run a proper dhcp server?
Mar 18 19:26:32 <pepijn> eddyp: give ssh some time (up to a few minutes)
Mar 18 19:26:40 <eddyp> tbm: if I unplug it from the network, it should start with the static ip, right?
Mar 18 19:26:58 <eddyp> pepijn: it's running
Mar 18 19:27:04 <lesbleus> evening all
Mar 18 19:27:09 <tbm> eddyp: d-i, yes.  with 192.168.1.something
Mar 18 19:27:13 <eddyp> it says perm denied
Mar 18 19:27:26 <tbm> is this d-i or after d-i?
Mar 18 19:27:32 <eddyp> d-i
Mar 18 19:27:43 <eddyp> installer:install does not work
Mar 18 19:27:48 <eddyp> I'll reboot
Mar 18 19:27:52 <tbm> perm denied?  do you use installer@<ip> passwd install?
Mar 18 19:27:52 <tbm> ok
Mar 18 19:28:06 <tbm> but I'd like to know how unslung stores its IP address
Mar 18 19:28:33 <NAiL> in sysconf
Mar 18 19:28:34 <eddyp> tbm:AFAIK in the flash
Mar 18 19:29:24 <eddyp> how fast should d-i start?
Mar 18 19:29:40 <eddyp> after reboot?
Mar 18 19:30:22 <tbm> ~4 minutes, maybe 5
Mar 18 19:31:53 <pepijn> yes, same experience here
Mar 18 19:32:03 <pepijn> it needs to generate the host keys, takes time
Mar 18 19:32:45 <eddyp> this is a turboslug ;-)
Mar 18 19:32:49 <pepijn> tbm: guess you are waiting for the leds enabled kernel
Mar 18 19:33:14 <eddyp> tbm: pepijn: rather building it ;-)
Mar 18 19:33:29 <eddyp> s/building/working on/
Mar 18 19:33:29 <jbot_> eddyp meant: tbm: pepijn: rather working on it ;-)
Mar 18 19:34:42 <lesbleus> Has anyone here managed to get Debian installed using the new installer method ?
Mar 18 19:35:17 <pepijn> lesbleus: i got it installed on a memory stick, but are actually running my original debootstrapped install
Mar 18 19:36:13 <lesbleus> pepijn: did you go with stable, testing or unstable feed ?
Mar 18 19:36:29 <pepijn> i started out with sarge and upgraded to etch
Mar 18 19:36:44 <pepijn> stable vs. testing
Mar 18 19:37:41 <lesbleus> I seem to get stuck at 68% downloading the initial system files
Mar 18 19:38:18 <lesbleus> any pointers ?
Mar 18 19:38:21 <pepijn> might be a known problem
Mar 18 19:38:33 <eddyp> where the hell does Mac OSX keep its DHCPD logs?
Mar 18 19:38:34 <pepijn> see mailing list
Mar 18 19:38:50 <lesbleus> pepijn: will do, cheers
Mar 18 19:39:29 <pepijn> and have a look at http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/
Mar 18 19:39:41 <tbm> lesbleus: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/11920
Mar 18 19:39:58 <pepijn> thnx, tbm ;)
Mar 18 19:39:58 <tbm> should be fixed tonight
Mar 18 19:40:09 <lesbleus> I saw the 20030317 note about arm feed problem
Mar 18 19:40:18 <eddyp> ssh installer@192.168.2.92 installer@192.168.2.92's password:  Permission denied, please try again. 
Mar 18 19:40:26 <eddyp> tbm ^^^^
Mar 18 19:40:35 <lesbleus> cheers tbm
Mar 18 19:40:41 <eddyp> it is again dhcp
Mar 18 19:40:45 <eddyp> not static
Mar 18 19:41:04 <tbm> so you didn't disconnect the ethernet cable?
Mar 18 19:41:07 <lesbleus> yeah, that cron error looks familiar ;)
Mar 18 19:41:08 <pepijn> eddyp: your sure it is the correct system?
Mar 18 19:41:19 <pepijn> ;)
Mar 18 19:41:41 <tbm> eddyp: oh, no
Mar 18 19:41:52 <eddyp> pepijn: good point
Mar 18 19:41:57 <tbm> eddyp: or you conigured the original firmware to do this static address
Mar 18 19:42:19 <eddyp> there is another machine in the network
Mar 18 19:42:21 <eddyp> :(
Mar 18 19:42:24 <pepijn> hehe
Mar 18 19:42:42 <eddyp> but then, where is the nslu?
Mar 18 19:43:39 <tbm> 192.168.1.77?
Mar 18 19:43:55 <eddyp> it should be .253
Mar 18 19:44:00 <lesbleus> that post is from Sat 18th, 01:13 am which is around when I was running into the problem, freaky timing
Mar 18 19:44:00 <eddyp> but it is not
Mar 18 19:44:20 <eddyp> I hate this lotery
Mar 18 19:44:36 <pepijn> eddyp: boot to unslung and fix your SysConf
Mar 18 19:44:41 <tbm> eddyp: if everything fails, flash the original firmware, configure the static IP address you want, double check, flash d-i again
Mar 18 19:44:50 <tbm> or what pepijn says
Mar 18 19:45:06 <eddyp> tbm: after the d-i starts, should the status light be yellow?
Mar 18 19:45:24 <tbm> eddyp: there's no change in the status light
Mar 18 19:45:34 <tbm> there's in LEDS support yet in the Debian kernel
Mar 18 19:45:44 <eddyp> damn
Mar 18 19:45:47 <tbm> eddyp: alternatively, wait a few days and I can give you an image that makes "beep"
Mar 18 19:46:02 <pepijn> the image that goes 'beep' ?
Mar 18 19:46:04 * eddyp downloads unslung image
Mar 18 19:46:15 <pepijn> can't we get an image that goes 'ni' ? ;)
Mar 18 19:46:40 <lesbleus> when you are done, you could install them in hospitals and charge a lot of money !
Mar 18 19:47:25 <[g2]> dwery pong
Mar 18 19:57:32 <eddyp> address is 192.168.1.254
Mar 18 19:57:58 <eddyp> tbm: could it be something related to the fact that i placed the web interface to run on 8080?
Mar 18 19:58:17 <eddyp> s/placed/made
Mar 18 19:58:32 <tbm> eddyp: I've no idea, but if you give me a dump of your SysConf partition I can investigate
Mar 18 19:59:07 <eddyp> sysconf being which?
Mar 18 20:01:06 <tbm> eddyp: /dev/mtd<something>  /proc/mtd tells you the number
Mar 18 20:01:44 <eddyp> crap, I can't telnet into it
Mar 18 20:02:15 <eddyp> the port is open, but it just says Trying
Mar 18 20:02:29 <eddyp> I don't understand
Mar 18 20:03:39 <eddyp> oh, crap, is yet another network
Mar 18 20:04:06 <eddyp> oh, di might have worked
Mar 18 20:04:16 <pepijn> rofl
Mar 18 20:04:26 <eddyp> but I was trying from the wrong terminal window
Mar 18 20:04:33 * pepijn thinks eddyp needs to make a network diagram ;)
Mar 18 20:04:54 <eddyp> I have this MacOSX machine disruptig everything
Mar 18 20:05:41 * eddyp feels ashamed
Mar 18 20:22:11 <pepijn> cat /proc/mtd 
Mar 18 20:22:12 <pepijn> dev:    size   erasesize  name
Mar 18 20:22:12 <pepijn> mtd0: 00040000 00020000 "RedBoot"
Mar 18 20:22:12 <pepijn> mtd1: 00020000 00020000 "SysConf"
Mar 18 20:22:12 <pepijn> mtd2: 00100000 00020000 "Kernel"
Mar 18 20:22:14 <pepijn> mtd3: 00020000 00020000 "Ramdisk"
Mar 18 20:22:16 <pepijn> mtd4: 00660000 00020000 "Flashdisk"
Mar 18 20:22:18 <pepijn> mtd5: 00020000 00020000 "FIS directory"
Mar 18 20:55:30 <tbm> eddyp: so it works now?
Mar 18 21:01:47 <eddyp> tbm: no :(
Mar 18 21:01:58 <eddyp> I don't know what's going on
Mar 18 21:02:16 <eddyp> I have a severe head ache, I will try again tomorrow
Mar 18 21:11:05 <NAiL> thank you, come again :-P
Mar 18 21:16:43 <eddyp> it was not the wrong net
Mar 18 21:17:04 <eddyp> I was inserting the commands in the correct terminal
Mar 18 21:17:24 <eddyp> (been looking over the older commands)
Mar 18 22:55:55 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10kernel/2.6.16/ (4 files): Fixed breakage on multiple patches, and updated the defconfig and series files.
Mar 18 23:11:30 <lesbleus> ?
Mar 18 23:23:16 <rwhitby> lesbleus: kernel/2.6.16 is the cvs repository where we stage new kernel patches before putting them in OE.
Mar 18 23:23:41 <rwhitby> an update to the latest -git broke some patches, but it's now fixed.
Mar 18 23:23:54 <lesbleus> i see
Mar 18 23:24:08 <lesbleus> im waiting on debian cron problem to be fixed ;p
Mar 18 23:51:33 <lesbleus> looks like theres a new package uploaded onto the mirrors
Mar 18 23:51:47 <lesbleus> I symlinked it to old one and the install seems to be working
Mar 18 23:51:48 <lesbleus> now
Mar 18 23:53:54 <tbm> yeah, I uploaded a fix yesterday; should go into testing tonight
Mar 18 23:58:19 <lesbleus> good work
Mar 19 00:07:44 <lesbleus> thanks for your help and package
Mar 19 00:07:53 * lesbleus is away - watching aeon flux -(00:13:10 p:on)7,2 -t0e7- 
Mar 19 03:04:10 <Snide> Does any one know if the etch installer has been updated yet?
Mar 19 03:46:13 <tbm> Snide: yes, it is
Mar 19 03:47:17 <Snide> Do you know which mirrors are updated? Have tried lyra.mit.edu
Mar 19 03:47:34 <tbm> Snide: I just checked ftp.nl.debian.org
Mar 19 03:48:13 <tbm> is lyra.mit.edu mit-only?  I cannot reach it
Mar 19 03:49:51 <tbm> Snide: http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian works for me, but it hasn't updated yet
Mar 19 03:51:00 <Snide> Shouldn't be MIT only
Mar 19 03:51:13 <tbm> I cannot reach it
Mar 19 05:12:42 <tbm> Snide: and?
Mar 19 05:14:45 <Snide> The updated one seems to work
Mar 19 05:15:23 <tbm> ok, good.
Mar 19 05:15:32 <tbm> so your installation is complete?
Mar 19 05:46:40 <Snide> It didn't fail on base config
Mar 19 05:47:39 <Snide> will update in the morning, its installing the workstation packages now
Mar 19 08:00:21 <eddyp> tbm: I don't understand; the openslug installation went fine (ended up with an armeb debian port)
Mar 19 08:00:39 <eddyp> I could see the slug imediately
Mar 19 08:00:57 <eddyp> at the expected static IP
Mar 19 08:02:23 <eddyp> only when flashing the di image I had problems
Mar 19 08:06:48 <eddyp> tbm: the thing is that I want an arm (el) port because of obvious reasons
Mar 19 10:26:39 <eddyp> tbm: ping
Mar 19 10:57:16 <pepijn> eddyp: pong? (d-i related?)
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