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Jun 18 05:16:33 <rwhitby> nas100d feed uploading now
Jun 18 06:23:14 <rwhitby> philpem: why not use the little-endian DebianSlug image?
Jun 18 06:23:45 <rwhitby> then you could use the latest subversion in Sid.
Jun 18 07:58:05 <l0c4lh0st> Whoa, nice, got Apache + PHP + MySQL running on my slug... it's pretty fast :)
Jun 18 07:58:16 <l0c4lh0st> Thought the 32 MB memory would be a real limation
Jun 18 07:58:19 <l0c4lh0st> limitation
Jun 18 08:10:28 <eFfeM> why?
Jun 18 08:15:09 <tuv> i tried running cacti on debianSlug (d-i) but the slug couldn't handle it.. kept swapping all the time and polling processes kept accumulating
Jun 18 08:15:45 <tuv> lighttpd + php5 + mysql5
Jun 18 08:16:52 <tuv> cacti's default config. is to run the poller every 5 min. from cron.. not far apart enough for the slug to finish one by one
Jun 18 08:18:00 <eFfeM> don't know cacti, I've run a small web server in the past without problems, not much php or sql in it though
Jun 18 08:18:37 <eFfeM> if you are running heavy php scripts I can imagine memory gets exhausted
Jun 18 08:20:32 <tuv> cacti.net, a nice network monitoring webapp. using it to monitor my wrt54g
Jun 18 08:20:40 <tuv> or trying to :)
Jun 18 08:23:03 <eFfeM> i'll try to remember it and try it later
Jun 18 08:23:05 <eFfeM> need to go now
Jun 18 11:06:24 <rwhitby> optware mss uploading now
Jun 18 18:56:14 <Hochuli> Can anyone tell me how to get stdlib.h on openslug?  I have slugos-native installed.
Jun 18 19:02:45 <EvilDevil> Hochuli, ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org ?
Jun 18 19:16:15 <Hochuli> EvilDevil, thanks I hadn't noticed the third option.  I found it in the libc6-dev package.  I guess I would have thought this would be included in slugos-native?
Jun 18 20:51:19 <l0c4lh0st> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap
Jun 18 20:51:30 <l0c4lh0st> turnup disk /dev/sda1 -t ext3
Jun 18 20:51:41 <l0c4lh0st> Could I safely type "turnup memstick /dev/sda1 -t ext3"?
Jun 18 20:51:46 <l0c4lh0st> As I'm installing on a USB stick.
Jun 18 20:52:15 <EvilDevil> l0c4lh0st, i would suggest using ext2 on the usb-stick
Jun 18 20:52:41 <l0c4lh0st> :/
Jun 18 20:52:43 <l0c4lh0st> Why?
Jun 18 20:53:36 <l0c4lh0st> I'm now at like... almost the end of the installation
Jun 18 20:53:36 <EvilDevil> because you don't want journaling on your usb-stick
Jun 18 20:53:42 <l0c4lh0st> Can I still change it to ext3 then?
Jun 18 20:53:46 <l0c4lh0st> ext2.
Jun 18 20:54:09 <EvilDevil> you already did all the bootstrap stuff?
Jun 18 20:54:24 <l0c4lh0st> Almost.
Jun 18 20:54:25 <l0c4lh0st> I"m now at:
Jun 18 20:54:26 <l0c4lh0st> Make the external drive with Debian on it your boot device:
Jun 18 20:54:26 <l0c4lh0st> turnup disk /dev/sda1 -t ext3
Jun 18 20:54:26 <l0c4lh0st> Reboot into Debian.
Jun 18 20:54:34 <l0c4lh0st> On this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap
Jun 18 20:56:17 <EvilDevil> that's bad :(        commit=nrsec
Jun 18 20:56:17 <EvilDevil>               Sync all data and metadata every nrsec seconds. The default value is 5 seconds. Zero means default.  <- you might set this to something very high to prevent frequent writing to the usb-stick
Jun 18 20:56:32 <EvilDevil> (in the /etc/fstab)
Jun 18 20:56:39 <l0c4lh0st> huh
Jun 18 20:56:46 <l0c4lh0st> But... CAn I change to ext2 now, or not?
Jun 18 20:56:54 <l0c4lh0st> Or do I have to restart the whole procedure?
Jun 18 20:57:09 <NAiL> l0c4lh0st: if you've gotten this far, just ignore it ;)
Jun 18 20:57:32 <NAiL> ext3 isn't recommended for use on a memstick, since it's journalled
Jun 18 20:57:38 <l0c4lh0st> Well, maybe it's important to have ext2 instead of ext3 on a memory stick
Jun 18 20:57:40 <l0c4lh0st> see
Jun 18 20:57:56 <l0c4lh0st> Can I convert an ext3 partition to ext2?
Jun 18 20:58:21 <NAiL> no, but I think you can mount it as ext2... ie, just ignore the journal.
Jun 18 20:59:21 <l0c4lh0st> ehh ok
Jun 18 20:59:48 <EvilDevil> NAiL, true. that would be the easiest way (and guess what, i didn't think about it... ;) )
Jun 18 21:00:18 <NAiL> "turnup memstick /dev/sda1 -t ext2"
Jun 18 21:00:48 <l0c4lh0st> Now rebooting...
Jun 18 21:00:53 <NAiL> (ext3 is ext2 with journalling tacked on within the metadata)
Jun 18 21:00:54 <l0c4lh0st> Let's hope it works.
Jun 18 21:01:01 <l0c4lh0st> I know, kinda :P
Jun 18 21:01:17 <l0c4lh0st> I don't understand what I need journaling for anyway :P
Jun 18 21:01:45 <NAiL> higher resilience against power failures 
Jun 18 21:01:55 <NAiL> (ie, less fsck'ing on boot)
Jun 18 21:02:07 <l0c4lh0st> Heh, it will become a 24/7 server.
Jun 18 21:03:12 <l0c4lh0st> I think it worked.
Jun 18 21:03:18 <l0c4lh0st> It booted without problems.
Jun 18 21:03:32 <l0c4lh0st> So now I'm running a memory stick optimized, ext2 Debian?
Jun 18 21:05:03 <NAiL> well, the only difference between "memstick" and "disk" IIRC is that /tmp and parts of /var is mounted as tmpfs (ram)
Jun 18 21:05:12 <NAiL> to avoid excessive writes
Jun 18 21:05:25 <l0c4lh0st> Well, that's enough optimization for me :)
Jun 18 21:05:33 <l0c4lh0st> I want it to run as fast as possible
Jun 18 21:05:47 <l0c4lh0st> since it's running "only" 32 MB RAM and 133 MHz (without modifications)
Jun 18 21:06:45 <philpem> wow. 21 hours to build subversion... not gonna be doing that again in a hurry.
Jun 18 21:06:59 <l0c4lh0st> hehe nice
Jun 18 21:07:26 <philpem> if anyone running opendebianslug sarge wants the debs, let me know and i'll stick them on an ftp somewhere :)
Jun 18 21:07:41 <l0c4lh0st> Yesterday, I spent 12 hours configuring locales to make the slug crash at the locales that start with n
Jun 18 21:08:08 <EvilDevil> l0c4lh0st, did you select all locales?
Jun 18 21:08:17 <l0c4lh0st> No, only the ones I needed
Jun 18 21:08:30 <l0c4lh0st> But it did for... like... every locale: <name of locale>.....done
Jun 19 00:01:39 <CIA-5> 03placid * r3415 10optware/trunk/make/automake.mk: automake: upstream to 1.9.6
Jun 19 00:38:08 <rwhitby> autobuilds are compiling new changes again.  all supported feeds should be populated now.
Jun 19 00:38:43 <placid_> amazing job - well done
Jun 19 00:47:39 * rwhitby compiles the kernel svn repo against 2.6.17 ...
Jun 19 01:23:10 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r298 10kernel/trunk/Makefile: Moved to 2.6.17
Jun 19 01:23:53 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r299 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (10-ixp4xx-fix-irq.patch series): Removed applied patch
Jun 19 01:24:05 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r300 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (KERNEL defconfig): Moved to 2.6.17
Jun 19 02:04:07 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r301 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (3 files): Merged ns100d cmdline patches
Jun 19 02:08:12 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r302 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (5 files): Refreshed nas100d and nslu2 cmdline fixup patches.
Jun 19 02:13:11 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r303 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (5 files): Refreshed nas100d and nslu2 mac address patches.
Jun 19 02:15:06 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r304 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/copypage-xscale.patch: Added description to copypage-xscale patch.
Jun 19 02:15:58 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r305 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (10-copypage-xscale.patch copypage-xscale.patch series): Renamed copypage-xscale patch
Jun 19 02:17:43 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r306 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (40-nas100d-leds.patch 96-nas100d-leds.patch series): Renamed nas100d leds patch
Jun 19 02:18:15 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r307 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (40-nslu2-leds.patch 96-nslu2-leds.patch series): Renamed nslu2 leds patch
Jun 19 02:19:16 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r308 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (40-nas100d-leds.patch 40-nslu2-leds.patch): Refreshed leds patches
Jun 19 02:19:36 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r309 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (20-nas100d-cmdline-fixup.patch 20-nslu2-cmdline-fixup.patch): Refreshed cmdline fixup patches
Jun 19 02:53:40 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r310 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (3 files): Renamed the leds cpu activity patch.
Jun 19 02:54:48 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r311 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/50-leds-arm-cpu-activity.patch: Refreshed the leds cpu activity patch
Jun 19 02:59:43 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby * r312 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.17/ (3 files): Renamed cmdline byteswap patch (unsure whether this one will be accepted upstream).
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