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Aug 31 06:30:35 <CIA-5> 03bzhou * r3987 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/nginx.mk): added nginx as native package
Aug 31 10:29:38 <blaster8> hi there
Aug 31 10:29:51 <blaster8> got breakage on the development environment
Aug 31 10:30:40 <blaster8> completely removed everything, started again and I'm getting errors whenever I try to build anything
Aug 31 10:31:41 <NAiL> what errors?
Aug 31 10:31:57 <blaster8> make[1]: *** [image] Killed is a good example
Aug 31 10:32:32 <Caelian|work> NAiL, btw ... did you guys ever get the chance to commit my busybox changes to the oe-repo ?
Aug 31 10:32:34 <blaster8> it gets to ./setup-enc; exec bitbake -k "InsertOSNamehere"-image
Aug 31 10:32:36 <blaster8> and dies
Aug 31 10:32:58 <NAiL> Caelian|work: not yet, I'm still trying to get everything to compile
Aug 31 10:33:18 <Caelian|work> NAiL, no problem ... was just curious :)
Aug 31 10:33:40 <NAiL> Caelian|work: remind me... did you send a patch somewhere?
Aug 31 10:33:41 <Caelian|work> i am currently using it as a test-case on how to setup BBFILE Collections :))
Aug 31 10:33:54 <Caelian|work> NAiL, i provided an openslug specific defconfig file
Aug 31 10:34:12 <Caelian|work> callisto.offis.uni-oldenburg.de:8080/defconfig
Aug 31 10:34:40 <Caelian|work> i haven't gotten to actually provide an all out patch ... but that should be the core of it
Aug 31 10:35:12 <NAiL> could you just mail that to nail @ nslu2-linux.org? That way it stays in my inbox until it's fixed ;-)
Aug 31 10:35:18 <Caelian|work> will do
Aug 31 10:35:48 <NAiL> thanks
Aug 31 10:37:29 <Caelian|work> sent
Aug 31 10:39:53 <NAiL> got it
Aug 31 10:40:06 <Caelian|work> ok :)
Aug 31 10:43:04 <NAiL> blaster8: how much ram/swap do you have?
Aug 31 10:43:11 <blaster8> lots
Aug 31 10:43:35 <blaster8> This is cross-compiling - 384MB RAM / 500MB Swap
Aug 31 10:44:05 <blaster8> make setup goes nicely, then make openslug fails
Aug 31 10:44:30 <blaster8> I was trying to update a previous working dev environment, hit this error
Aug 31 10:44:44 <blaster8> so removed the dev environment directory, started again, and got the same error
Aug 31 10:45:03 <NAiL> odd
Aug 31 10:45:18 <NAiL> what leads up to the error?
Aug 31 10:45:18 <blaster8> monotone 0.28
Aug 31 10:45:34 <blaster8> not a lot
Aug 31 10:45:41 <blaster8> I have thought of something, actually
Aug 31 10:45:49 <blaster8> compiler change may be causing trouble
Aug 31 10:46:24 <blaster8> I'll swap to the old one, temporarily and get back to you
Aug 31 10:53:25 <blaster8> hmm, didn't help
Aug 31 10:56:01 <blaster8> http://pastebin.ca/155824
Aug 31 16:11:21 <blaster8> solved the build problem
Aug 31 16:11:37 <blaster8> just built a whole load of security protections into my desktop linux system
Aug 31 16:11:46 <blaster8> Pax/grsecurity
Aug 31 16:12:19 <blaster8> they decided that they didn't like bitbake and killed the process - swapping out to a non-hardened kernel fixed the problem
Aug 31 16:14:03 <blaster8> I'm going to have a dedicated headless OpenVZ server (with multiple virtualised linuxes) in a couple of weeks for jobs like this so temporary solutions are fine :)
Aug 31 17:08:56 <Caelian|work> hmmmm ... anyone has any ideas how hard ti would be to build gcc's objective-c support for openslug ?
Aug 31 17:09:24 <Caelian|work> so the objective-c compiler and the accompanying libobjc.so runtime ?
Aug 31 17:29:22 <blaster8> OK, genuine bug this time
Aug 31 17:29:30 <blaster8> building slugos-btu, aka ucslugc
Aug 31 17:30:06 <blaster8> build failure whilst linking uClibc
Aug 31 17:30:18 <blaster8> must have been introduced in the last week or so, because it built fine then
Aug 31 17:32:41 <blaster8> http://pastebin.ca/156289
Aug 31 17:55:57 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3988 10optware/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): amavisd-new: new package
Aug 31 18:54:36 <CIA-5> 03bzhou * r3989 10optware/trunk/Makefile: promoted amavisd-new
Aug 31 19:35:51 <CIA-5> 03pawsa * r3990 10optware/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): sendmail: initial commit of the .mk and source files.
Aug 31 19:36:41 <gda_> pawsa: don't let us start a war, but what has sendmail that postfix has not?
Aug 31 19:37:01 <pawsa> can be started by inetd, for one.
Aug 31 19:37:33 <gda_> this is not an advantage, another one?
Aug 31 19:37:33 <pawsa> So one need no extra daemon hanging in the (precious) memory.
Aug 31 19:37:45 <gda_> so stop inetd
Aug 31 19:38:57 <pawsa> OK, I need a server that runs rsync, smtp server, telnet and imap server. With inetd, there is just one process waiting. What's your alternative?
Aug 31 19:39:43 <pawsa> s,rsync,rsyncd,
Aug 31 19:40:01 <gda_> as I told postfix and I use cyrus-imapd, amavisd-new, clamav, fetchmail, spamassassin
Aug 31 19:41:42 <pawsa> ... and you have several postfix and cyrus processes sitting there and waiting. This may be good for a high througput environments but I do not think many people run them on NSLU2.
Aug 31 19:42:29 <gda_> I didn't know that sendmail has an imap server
Aug 31 19:42:55 <pawsa> Anyway, if you think that running daemons off inetd is wrong, I think you should consider updating http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/PackagingBestPractices which recommends that.
Aug 31 19:43:21 <pawsa> sendmail is no imap deamon but UW-imap works with inetd.
Aug 31 19:44:09 <gda_> us doesn't allow mails and folder mixed, and it is too slow with my big filled folder
Aug 31 19:44:12 <gda_> s
Aug 31 19:44:24 <gda_> s/us/uw/
Aug 31 19:45:23 <pawsa> I agree, uw isn't perfect. 
Aug 31 19:45:50 <pawsa> But many its "features" are a matter of taste.
Aug 31 19:46:22 <gda_> to be honest, I don't use a nslu2, but a ds101g, it is a little bit faster
Aug 31 19:46:28 <pawsa> I've been ever bothered by the lack "dual-function" folders.
Aug 31 19:47:04 <pawsa> and I would not say that UW-imap is slower than cyrus as long as the mbx mailbox driver is used.
Aug 31 19:47:54 <pawsa> but it's a matter of the underlying file system as well.
Aug 31 19:49:26 <gda_> I don't know how it is now, but I remember uw had a long history of bugs
Aug 31 19:49:51 <pawsa> I know of security issues but not bugs per se.
Aug 31 19:50:09 <gda_> that was what I have meant
Aug 31 20:51:39 <gda_> n8
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