**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 09 02:59:56 2006 Sep 09 05:36:15 03bzhou * r4036 10optware/trunk/make/py-turbojson.mk: py-turbojson: upstream upgrade to 0.9.9 Sep 09 14:51:41 hello Sep 09 14:52:56 I develop gentoo on slug.. and I have a question regarding to it.. When I press Power button on my slug, it reboots. I wonder if I could change this behaviour so it would shutdown instead.. but how? Sep 09 15:03:05 jake: edit /etc/inittab. Replace the ctrl-alt-del action Sep 09 15:03:25 the kernel simply signals init to fake a ctrl-alt-del Sep 09 15:03:47 oh. Thanks. Sep 09 15:04:42 ctrl-alt-del seems to be currently pointing to /sbin/shutdown -r now.. Thanks. Sep 09 15:06:17 Soon we get a proper (gnu glibc) stage3 file complete that is compatible with openslug.. Currently upgrading components on it. Sep 09 15:06:42 cool Sep 09 15:07:19 I'm not a big fan of gentoo on the slug personally. Compiling natively takes forever :-P Sep 09 15:08:43 Yeah :) Sep 09 15:09:15 That's true. But after all.. there's tools to help out a bit.. for e.g. distcc.. Sep 09 15:09:36 and you actually won't be running so many heavy applications on it.. Sep 09 15:10:01 as slug ain't really such a killer on speed and power anyway :) Sep 09 15:10:50 yeah... I'm a bit more optimistic about my new toy though :) Sep 09 15:10:54 I run gentoo linux on my other computers @ my home, so it would be great to be having same system on slug as I use on another machines. Sep 09 15:10:57 the Thecus n2100 Sep 09 15:11:11 heh :) What's that.. hmm.. Sep 09 15:11:41 600Mhz IOP cpu, expandable ram, 2xS-ATA Sep 09 15:11:50 (DDR 400MHz) Sep 09 15:11:53 wow :) Sep 09 15:12:02 http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=1&pid=1 Sep 09 15:12:05 Let's see.. Anyway if they are sold in finland.. Sep 09 15:12:16 yeah, already googled that page.. Sep 09 15:12:22 They're sold in Norway atleast Sep 09 15:13:07 propably all around the world expect in finland.. this is a crappy land when it comes to gadgets (actually on pretty many other things too) Sep 09 15:13:19 Know what would be nice also.. Sep 09 15:13:24 on that n2100.. Sep 09 15:14:18 got a miniPCI-slot too Sep 09 15:14:28 I've got a wifi-card that I'm gonna use in it :) Sep 09 15:14:35 if it would have integrated sd/mmc/ms/etc card reader on it and it would automount it and share it with samba.. I know it has usb so this can be done.. but integrated would be nice and it even would fit to side of that box really nicely.. Sep 09 15:15:03 there's an "extra" USB-port you can use ;) Sep 09 15:15:28 hmm.. is there any alternative firmware avail to that..? Sep 09 15:15:56 not yet. lennert, DaKa and tbm is working on the kernel AFAIK Sep 09 15:16:04 I'll start as soon as I get my box too :) Sep 09 15:16:28 * Sep 09 15:16:38 huh, my XP laptop just hanged :D Sep 09 15:16:47 It's XP :P Sep 09 15:16:56 nope. That's not the main problem.. Sep 09 15:17:01 main problem is that it's HP.. Sep 09 15:17:10 ouch ;) Sep 09 15:17:15 There's no way to get it open afaik.. Sep 09 15:17:20 or ofcourse there is.. Sep 09 15:17:25 but not with screws and so on.. Sep 09 15:17:39 I would need to change cooling components.. Sep 09 15:17:50 oh Sep 09 15:17:54 this keeps 10 times bigger noice than my server.. Sep 09 15:18:07 which is btw. also a HP :) Sep 09 15:18:33 this machine is designed all wrong.. Sep 09 15:18:44 ventilation is in the bottom of this machine.. Sep 09 15:18:48 heh Sep 09 15:18:53 "nice" Sep 09 15:19:13 if I keep it on the table.. How can air be taken out by there and fresh cool air taken in..? Sep 09 15:20:05 thecus isn't being sold in finland currently.. Sep 09 15:20:26 let's see if they are selling ibm laptops with comparable price.. Sep 09 15:20:42 ibm laptop is a quality product.. Sep 09 15:20:50 lenovo thinkpad :) Sep 09 15:20:57 heh :) Sep 09 15:20:58 true. Sep 09 15:21:08 but quality is also shown in pårice :) Sep 09 15:21:47 I've got a Thinkpad R40e Sep 09 15:21:58 Cheap-ass Thinkpad. But it works ;) Sep 09 15:22:04 Nice. I got one 600X and T23.. Sep 09 15:22:33 Checking out specs on T40 currently.. Sep 09 15:23:01 even though that it's way too expensive for me right now.. Sep 09 15:30:54 heh, I had to buy my Thecus n2100 from norway :P Sep 09 15:53:37 Bonjour Sep 09 15:54:02 * rwhitby is in Toulouse Sep 09 16:14:53 DaKa: You did? Sep 09 16:15:23 they don't sell it in Sweden? I'm surprised. You usually have such products, being a bigger marked than norway Sep 09 16:15:27 NAiL: well, swedish part of a norwegian company, still.. most of their web and mails are in norwegian :P Sep 09 16:15:45 NAiL: it sells now, not a fre monthts ago Sep 09 16:15:49 few* Sep 09 16:35:15 perl and openssl were last compiled for gentooslug.. no more than 55 compilations until system has been updated :) Sep 09 16:36:06 some people might think that this is a pain in the ass to try to make this work.. Sep 09 16:36:17 since compiling on a slug is that slow.. Sep 09 16:36:19 but. Sep 09 16:36:48 keep that slug busy :-) Sep 09 16:36:57 actually this is just great.. Sep 09 16:37:20 itä's really nice that we finally have a (gnu glibc) gentoo that can be run with openslug.. Sep 09 16:38:10 rwhitby: yeah.. well.. it will be busy when it compiles gcc-3.4.6 and glibc-2.4 :) Sep 09 16:43:41 the n2100 should be nice for compiling ;) Sep 09 16:45:16 yep, too bad it doesn't do BE.. Sep 09 16:46:08 n2100 compiles a complete debian style everything-as-modules kernel in a few hours Sep 09 16:46:30 DaKa: why do you need BE? Sep 09 16:46:43 rwhitby: I don't, I just like it Sep 09 16:46:56 for some strange reason :) Sep 09 16:54:14 hmm.. Sep 09 16:54:40 I have setup my gentooslug to initially mimic led behaviour of openslug.. Sep 09 16:55:26 I made it a initscript, /etc/init.d/nslu2events Sep 09 16:56:39 it also has config file in /etc/conf.d/nslu2events where people are able to customize it. They can change what leds look like on 3 different events (bootup, system ready and shutdown) and these can be added pretty easily if more are required. Sep 09 16:57:27 It also uses command beep to control internal speaker, user can define if he wants a beep sound while these events occure, user can define frequency and length of sound too. Sep 09 16:58:06 I earlier introduced a way to use leds in uclibc gentoo slug under openslug.. Sep 09 16:58:29 they copied /sbin/leds from initrd to /usr/local/sbin/leds or so on.. Sep 09 16:59:09 and changed it a bit, so functions would be found (add /initrd after #! in the beginning of script) Sep 09 17:00:15 but this time, I didn't use that. I use chroot. This is because in future releases these files might get updated and this way ( chroot /initrd /sbin/leds "@£$" ) updated files are automaticly being used in gentoo also. Sep 09 17:00:34 ah - interesting idea Sep 09 17:00:39 Now I have come to think one thing. To make everything work.. Sep 09 17:01:00 I had to mount -o bind /dev /sys and /proc to initrd's equillavents.. Sep 09 17:01:14 so my scripts do this everytime and umount then.. Sep 09 17:01:25 Should I rather put these to /etc/fstab.. Sep 09 17:01:36 It would show in less cpu use.. Sep 09 17:02:14 rwhitby: what do you think about it? Sep 09 17:02:54 how often are leds blinked and buzzers buzzed? Sep 09 17:03:40 rwhitby: they won't blink (if use doesn't use such option like flash) they glow until next event occurs. buzzer is played once. Sep 09 17:04:01 It is supposed to inform user that gentoo bootup has been started.. Sep 09 17:04:13 not much cpu usage then Sep 09 17:04:16 Then it can inform user that system is ready. Sep 09 17:04:31 and that system shutdown has been initiated. Sep 09 17:04:51 rwhitby: I know. But for me.. even perfect isn't nearly enough :) Sep 09 17:08:05 other people working on gentooslug seem to have taken another road.. Sep 09 17:08:22 they want to have their own kernel and so on.. Sep 09 17:08:33 no system in flash.. Sep 09 17:08:44 direct boot to /dev/sda1 Sep 09 17:09:00 That's also nice. But as I have been there a long time.. Sep 09 17:09:18 I have noticed that I'm propably most active developer on gentoo slug:) Sep 09 17:09:53 maybe I don't come so often with complete success, but I try hard and for e.g. this time, I succeeded as now gentoo(glibc) runs with openslug. Sep 09 17:10:20 And I don't have so much time for projects like these, I got 100 other projects going on too :) Sep 09 17:10:50 so I can't be the one updating this stuff, that's why I'm so interested in making it work perfectly with openslug. Sep 09 17:13:32 This way I free myself from updating the project.. Sep 09 17:13:42 When there's need for a new kernel.. Sep 09 17:13:55 there propably will be a new release of openslug/slugos.. Sep 09 17:14:18 and gentoo system is updated alongside with gentoo for pc.. Sep 09 17:14:42 hmm.. where I got this way to think of stuff.. Sep 09 17:14:55 maybe it shows that I work with transportation and logistics :D Sep 09 17:16:49 but yeah.. to go back to issue I talked earlier.. Sep 09 17:17:39 having proc sys and dev mounted from /etc/fstab.. it would be cleaner and would make it easier for user to have his own solutions with leds.. Sep 09 17:18:26 but well.. maybe gentoo isn't supposed to be that easy.. If we want to make it too easy.. We need to start something else than gentooslug.. ubuntuSlug :D Sep 09 17:18:51 PuppySlug Sep 09 17:18:59 anyway, I gotta go. Sep 09 17:19:07 comes with complete graphical installation and top notch leeching software :D Sep 09 17:19:20 rwhitby: see you again on next year :) Sep 09 17:20:16 I'll go too. Have to be working tomorrow so it's early bedtime.. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 10 02:59:56 2006