**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 13 02:59:56 2006
Sep 13 12:20:06 <EvilDevil> uhm... just set up a new development system using debian sarge (3.1r2), installed basically the package "build-essential", monotone 0.29 from venge.net and ran "make setup-host-debian", "make setup". But "make debianslug-image" failed because "zlib.h" was missing. I had to install "zlib1g-dev". Maybe this should be in the Makefile in the "setup-host-debian" section
Sep 13 12:22:54 <NAiL> EvilDevil: yes
Sep 13 12:24:21 <NAiL> EvilDevil: yes, zlib dev should be in setup-host
Sep 13 12:28:50 <EvilDevil_> NAiL, could you please update the Makefile ?
Sep 13 12:42:21 <CIA-5> 03rwhitby 07ixp_npe * r405 10kernel/Makefile: Fixed erroneous slash at end of modules line. Fixes #15.
Sep 13 13:11:46 <EvilDevil> NAiL, if i build a recent debianslug-image, is the new ixp_npe already include or do i need to tweak some options to get them in the image?
Sep 13 13:12:58 <NAiL> dunno
Sep 13 13:13:03 <NAiL> you'll have to ask blaster8
Sep 13 13:13:12 <EvilDevil> NAiL, thanks
Sep 13 13:13:18 <NAiL> I don't think you'll end up with ixp_npe by default yet
Sep 13 13:13:28 <NAiL> (atleast not working the way you expect it to do)
Sep 13 13:14:18 <EvilDevil> okay, i get a 2.6.17 kernel from the makefile
Sep 13 13:14:23 <NAiL> I think blaster8 has a somewhat-working image somewhere
Sep 13 13:14:35 <NAiL> you'll probably need to tweak slugos.conf
Sep 13 13:16:44 <EvilDevil> conf/distro/include/slugos.inc ?
Sep 13 13:19:05 <NAiL> possibly
Sep 13 13:19:14 <NAiL> Can't remember where the kernel version is set
Sep 13 13:19:46 <NAiL> somewhere in conf/distro atleast ;)
Sep 13 13:21:38 <EvilDevil> well, if i understood all the "signs" I need to build the 2.6.18 kernel seperately(using the svn branch ixp_npe), use upslug2 to flash the kernel and the rootfs (which needs to be modified to hold the 2.6.18 modules) and test it
Sep 13 13:26:44 <blaster8> ?
Sep 13 13:26:52 <blaster8> patience
Sep 13 13:27:06 <blaster8> I am capable of finding out whether it works here
Sep 13 13:27:17 <blaster8> when it works at all, everyone will know quickly
Sep 13 13:27:22 <blaster8> and it will be committed to HEAD
Sep 13 13:30:03 <EvilDevil> allright, just wanted to test it... wasn't there some "call for testing" on the nslu2-dev. mailing list ?
Sep 13 13:38:36 <blaster8> mm, testing the kernel tree
Sep 13 13:38:58 <blaster8> haven't got userspace fixed yet :)
Sep 13 13:39:07 <NAiL> blaster8: I added a patch yesterday
Sep 13 13:39:11 <blaster8> got it
Sep 13 13:39:17 <blaster8> we have minor issues
Sep 13 13:39:27 <NAiL> what?
Sep 13 13:39:36 <blaster8> well, the modules load beautifully
Sep 13 13:39:44 <blaster8> I seem to be able to initialise NPE-B
Sep 13 13:39:49 <blaster8> but nothing appears in ifconfig
Sep 13 13:39:56 <NAiL> oh
Sep 13 13:40:00 <blaster8> http://trac.nslu2-linux.org/kernel/browser/branches/ixp_npe/patches/2.6.18/32-nslu-setup-mac.patch
Sep 13 13:40:03 <blaster8> probably set this up wrongly
Sep 13 13:40:10 <EvilDevil> damn.. no space left on device :(
Sep 13 13:40:26 <NAiL> btw, lennert will cc you when he gets around to it. He's got a few things to say about the driver
Sep 13 13:40:34 <blaster8> So I've emailed the dev with a bootlog from the IAL and my patch to see if he can spot the problem
Sep 13 13:40:37 <blaster8> ok
Sep 13 13:40:42 <blaster8> one more thing
Sep 13 13:41:02 <blaster8> I have another adjustment on the ixp4xx-npe package front
Sep 13 13:41:07 <NAiL> sure
Sep 13 13:41:15 <blaster8> have you pushed it to HEAD?
Sep 13 13:41:19 <NAiL> yeah
Sep 13 13:41:29 <blaster8> ok, shall I send you another diff?
Sep 13 13:41:32 <NAiL> nothing uses it until it's added to the packages list anyway
Sep 13 13:41:39 <blaster8> it works well, btw
Sep 13 13:41:40 <NAiL> don't you have monotone access?
Sep 13 13:41:50 <blaster8> no, don't have a clue how to use the damn thing ;)
Sep 13 13:41:53 <blaster8> wou
Sep 13 13:41:55 <NAiL> ah, ok
Sep 13 13:41:56 <blaster8> oops
Sep 13 13:42:14 <blaster8> I'll send you the diff, just changing the install location again
Sep 13 13:42:26 <NAiL> ah, if it's only that I'll do it manually
Sep 13 13:42:41 <blaster8> ok
Sep 13 13:42:54 <NAiL>  /lib/firmware it is then?
Sep 13 13:42:57 <blaster8> indeed
Sep 13 13:43:14 <NAiL> or lib/firmware/NPE-B?
Sep 13 13:43:20 <blaster8> but I want the NPE files in /lib/firmware not /lib/firmware/NPE-[ABC]/
Sep 13 13:43:26 <NAiL> mmkay
Sep 13 13:43:35 <blaster8> I think that's what the driver expects
Sep 13 13:43:42 <blaster8> and I seem to have broken ext2/3
Sep 13 13:43:52 <NAiL> that's ... not goto
Sep 13 13:43:52 <blaster8> and depmod in the OE kernel build
Sep 13 13:43:56 <NAiL> argh
Sep 13 13:43:56 <NAiL> good
Sep 13 13:43:58 <blaster8> not sure how that happened
Sep 13 13:44:04 <blaster8> good?
Sep 13 13:44:09 <NAiL> that's not good
Sep 13 13:44:13 <blaster8> mm
Sep 13 13:44:35 <blaster8> actually the depmod thing is strange
Sep 13 13:45:03 <blaster8> and we need to update how we pull kernel patches from SVN
Sep 13 13:45:15 <blaster8> but apart from that there isn't much really
Sep 13 13:47:26 <NAiL> good, good
Sep 13 13:47:45 <NAiL> is the 32-nslu2-setup-mac.patch needed at all?
Sep 13 13:48:12 <blaster8> yes
Sep 13 13:48:31 <blaster8> the MACs need to be set up on a per-board basis
Sep 13 13:48:38 <blaster8> all boards being different, apparently
Sep 13 13:50:37 <blaster8> updating to 2.6.18-rc7 which includes our IRQ header patch
Sep 13 13:50:41 <blaster8> just got to check it all builds
Sep 13 13:51:41 <NAiL> committed the npe update
Sep 13 13:51:50 <blaster8> great
Sep 13 13:52:48 <blaster8> Is OSUOSL based in USA?
Sep 13 13:52:57 <NAiL> yeah
Sep 13 13:53:03 <blaster8> oh well
Sep 13 13:53:09 <NAiL> Oregon U or something
Sep 13 13:53:19 <blaster8> so much for redistributing hardware crypto support :(
Sep 13 13:53:24 <blaster8> just a thought
Sep 13 13:53:32 <NAiL> well, it could be distributed from elsewhere
Sep 13 13:53:45 <NAiL> one of my servers e.g.
Sep 13 13:54:01 <blaster8> mm, our friendly IXP_NPE dev is writing another driver for that
Sep 13 13:54:10 <NAiL> cool
Sep 13 13:54:19 <blaster8> hardware crypto is usually extremely expensive, as I'm sure you know
Sep 13 13:54:37 <blaster8> suddenly £50 NSLU2 is fully fledged accelerated VPN router...
Sep 13 13:54:42 <NAiL> not really. I haven't bothered with hardware crypto
Sep 13 13:54:44 <blaster8> It's a dream :)
Sep 13 13:55:58 <NAiL> got my thecus btw
Sep 13 13:56:19 <NAiL> now, if I could only replace that fan...
Sep 13 14:06:00 <CIA-5> 03blaster8 07ixp_npe * r406 10kernel/patches/2.6.18/ (14-nslu2-irq-fix.patch 32-nslu-setup-mac.patch KERNEL series): Update 2.6.18-rc7 and debug 32-nslu2-setup-mac.patch
Sep 13 14:09:57 <blaster8> NAiL: you forgot to update the defconfig for your Realtek patch...
Sep 13 14:10:36 <blaster8> or at least to run make to check for strange options
Sep 13 14:17:06 <NAiL> uhg
Sep 13 14:18:03 <blaster8> don't worry
Sep 13 14:18:08 <blaster8> I've just broken SVN ;)
Sep 13 14:18:10 <NAiL> haha
Sep 13 14:18:16 <NAiL> what options were strange/missing?
Sep 13 14:18:23 <NAiL> the CONFIG_R8169=m was added IIRC
Sep 13 14:18:30 <blaster8> mm, but there are sub-options
Sep 13 14:18:41 <blaster8> I'll fix it in a second
Sep 13 14:18:55 <NAiL> ah
Sep 13 14:19:09 <blaster8> amusingly, I've found the problem, or at least a problem
Sep 13 14:19:16 <blaster8> 2 cock-ups = 1 solution :)
Sep 13 14:19:21 <NAiL> haha
Sep 13 14:23:06 <CIA-5> 03bzhou * r4045 10optware/trunk/make/py-lxml.mk: py-lxml: upstream upgrade to 1.1
Sep 13 14:25:07 <CIA-5> 03blaster8 07ixp_npe * r407 10kernel/patches/2.6.18/ (32-nslu-setup-mac.patch defconfig): Update defconfig and nslu2-setup patch again
Sep 13 14:25:39 <blaster8> the defconfig fix is in :)
Sep 13 14:25:43 <NAiL> thx
Sep 13 14:28:43 <blaster8> OK, new OE build
Sep 13 14:32:08 <blaster8> btw, we shouldn't fetch SVN patches via HTTP
Sep 13 14:32:23 <blaster8> possibility of going stale if people don't manually delete them each time...
Sep 13 14:32:46 <blaster8> so instead we should use the SVN fetcher and set a revisions variable that we want to check out
Sep 13 14:33:10 <blaster8> then when we want to change which patches are pulled, we simply bump the PR and the revisions variable
Sep 13 14:34:17 <blaster8> http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s10#id2531018
Sep 13 14:48:49 <NAiL> well
Sep 13 14:48:54 <NAiL> ah
Sep 13 14:48:55 <NAiL> yes
Sep 13 14:50:09 <CIA-5> 03nail 07slugos-3.10-beta * r375 10slugos/openembedded/packages/linux/ (ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.16.bb): ixp4xx-kernel: Enable various USB cameras as modules
Sep 13 14:50:34 <NAiL> btw, I'm gonna suffer from repo madness soon if the branch isn't merged back into trunk ;)
Sep 13 14:54:10 * NAiL has the slugos 3.10 svn repo, two kernel repos, the oe repo and upslug2 repo. 
Sep 13 14:57:23 <NAiL> btw, why'd you file a bug in the OE bugtracker?
Sep 13 14:58:00 * NAiL has an rss feed in thunderbird that lists all the bugs in trac ;)
Sep 13 14:58:58 <NAiL> btw, regarding svn checkouts of the kernel patches.. check this with rwhitby
Sep 13 14:59:13 <NAiL> there's another thing that would be useful (tm) in that regard...
Sep 13 14:59:45 <NAiL> if OE could use the already-existing series file from the svn checkout, that'd save us from having to modify the ixp4xx-kernel .bb
Sep 13 15:02:31 <blaster8> yes, but that probably requires raw python foo
Sep 13 15:05:21 <blaster8> entirely possible, but not simple
Sep 13 15:06:22 <blaster8> my NSLU2 is boxed :)
Sep 13 15:06:50 <blaster8> serial/ethernet all done, and a master on/off switch
Sep 13 15:07:06 <blaster8> integrated power supply too
Sep 13 15:07:55 <NAiL> cool
Sep 13 15:09:47 <blaster8> need to drill some holes to get some airflow through
Sep 13 15:10:20 <blaster8> the power supply is 3A@5V ad 3A@12V
Sep 13 15:11:23 <blaster8> which is quite powerful, given what I am doing with it
Sep 13 15:32:59 <blaster8> IT WORKS!
Sep 13 15:33:00 <blaster8> yayayay
Sep 13 15:33:31 <blaster8> woohoo
Sep 13 15:36:57 <Eiffel> hi just upgrade to unslung 6.8 from 5.5 and now the slug is accessing the device every 5 seconds what is happening there under 5.5 i had nothing like that
Sep 13 15:37:37 <blaster8> I don't know, but the support channel is #nslu2-general
Sep 13 15:47:43 <NAiL> Eiffel: and do look at the wiki and/or the mailinglist
Sep 13 15:50:18 <blaster8> bloody hell
Sep 13 15:50:39 <blaster8> this driver can max out a 100Mb connection
Sep 13 15:50:46 <blaster8> could the old one?
Sep 13 15:50:52 <NAiL> I think so
Sep 13 15:51:05 <blaster8> ok, I'll check netload
Sep 13 15:51:14 <NAiL> the limitations have AFAIK been when the CPU has been used (eg. samba) or with disk-access
Sep 13 15:51:14 <blaster8> or whatever
Sep 13 15:52:21 <NAiL> don't take my word for gospel though
Sep 13 16:02:05 <NAiL> joshin could probably benchmark for you :)
Sep 13 16:02:12 <blaster8> still, it works
Sep 13 16:02:19 <blaster8> now, do you know how hotplug works?
Sep 13 16:02:26 <blaster8> or indeed the module loading system?
Sep 13 16:03:35 <NAiL> the deep inner workings?
Sep 13 16:03:44 * NAiL is soldering antenna wire on a minipci card
Sep 13 16:04:18 <blaster8> yes
Sep 13 16:04:27 <blaster8> or, enough to get a different module autoloading
Sep 13 16:07:52 <blaster8> hmm
Sep 13 16:08:02 <blaster8> for now I will hack an extra bit of init script
Sep 13 16:17:48 <NAiL> cool
Sep 13 16:18:00 <NAiL> just make a note that it has to be fixed before a release :-p
Sep 13 16:18:16 <blaster8> still getting ext3 errors
Sep 13 16:18:28 <blaster8> going to need to be fixed...
Sep 13 16:19:25 <NAiL> what kind of ext3 errors?
Sep 13 16:19:49 * NAiL now has a thecus n2100 with a miniPCI wlan card :)
Sep 13 16:20:31 <NAiL> (I suspect thecus has leeched off the zd1211 wireless driver in OE, since that's the only wifi usb-dongle they support) :)
Sep 13 16:20:55 <blaster8> argh
Sep 13 16:21:17 <blaster8> Unknown symbol errors in lots of fs modules
Sep 13 16:21:57 <NAiL> you have done a depmod? ;)
Sep 13 16:22:11 <NAiL> what kind of unknown symbols do you get?
Sep 13 16:22:14 <blaster8> yes
Sep 13 16:22:22 <blaster8> mixture
Sep 13 16:23:00 <blaster8> none relate to other modules, though ??
Sep 13 16:23:06 <blaster8> having looked at depmod -v
Sep 13 16:23:28 <blaster8> ok, can you commit what I have done somewhere
Sep 13 16:23:38 <blaster8> so other people can look this evening, I'm out
Sep 13 16:23:46 <blaster8> I'll put up a list of bugs to fix
Sep 13 16:24:28 <NAiL> I can see if I get enough time. I'm probably going out with my GF shortly, for a few beers.
Sep 13 16:24:41 <blaster8> I'll tar/gzip the changes
Sep 13 16:40:45 <CIA-5> 03blaster8 07ixp_npe * r408 10kernel/ (CONFIG_CHANGES README_BRANCH): Update branch status information
Sep 13 16:41:10 <blaster8> ok, cya all
Sep 13 16:58:02 <CIA-5> 03blaster8 07ixp_npe * r409 10kernel/patches/2.6.18/series: Temporarily disable squashfs while debugging
Sep 13 18:42:43 <eFfeM> hi, anyone knowledgeable with unslung/unslinging online?
Sep 13 18:45:33 <eFfeM> can somebody tell me which script executes linuxrc ?
Sep 13 20:25:06 <CIA-5> 03bzhou * r4046 10optware/trunk/ (make/python25.mk sources/python25/Makefile.pre.in.patch): python25: upstream upgrade to 2.5c2
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