**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 18 02:59:57 2006 Sep 18 15:20:31 all, if bad blocks are detected when trying to write a huge file to an external extfs2 hard drive, will those be labelled as defective and no longer used again so i may safely delete said corrupted big file(s)? Sep 18 15:22:07 03oleo * r4061 10optware/trunk/ (make/thttpd.mk sources/thttpd/config.h.patch): thttpd: increase CGI_TIMEOUT to 10 minutes Sep 18 16:17:50 ah, no crash, but rather 20 actual confirmed bad blocks in a single 1 gig dummy file. better not touch that one again until the situation is resolved :( Sep 18 18:59:38 NAiL: ping Sep 18 18:59:52 found the possible source of your Ubuntu build problem Sep 18 19:50:09 blaster8: oh, pray tell :) Sep 18 19:50:24 well, you're running edgy? Sep 18 19:50:41 yup Sep 18 19:51:12 you don't have /bin/bash as the symlink for /bin/sh Sep 18 19:51:18 it's a different shell Sep 18 19:51:38 can cause issues, because most people assume bash is symlinked to sh Sep 18 19:51:49 try swapping out the symlinks and try again Sep 18 19:52:04 just a possibility Sep 18 19:52:45 oh Sep 18 19:53:07 btw, my home dsl line is wonky, so if I don't reply for ages, I've been disconnected Sep 18 19:53:11 ok Sep 18 19:53:12 happens every couple of minutes or so Sep 18 19:53:32 repvik@ximinez:/bin$ ls -las sh Sep 18 19:53:32 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-08-13 13:50 sh -> dash Sep 18 19:53:38 absolutely Sep 18 19:53:39 "dash"... Sep 18 19:53:46 dash is faster and POSIX compliant Sep 18 19:53:52 much faster actually Sep 18 19:54:04 but it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles of bash... Sep 18 19:54:26 ah Sep 18 19:54:28 apparently not Sep 18 19:55:01 ? Sep 18 19:55:12 not all bells and whistles ;) Sep 18 19:55:19 retrying build now Sep 18 21:45:10 03nail * r4062 10optware/trunk/ (make/ipkg.mk sources/ipkg/ipkg-va_start_segfault.diff): ipkg: Fix segfault when user is asked for input. patch courtesy of mcdmx Sep 18 21:45:30 hehe... Sep 18 21:46:08 hey, you're here ;) Sep 18 21:46:10 03nail * r4063 10optware/trunk/make/ds101-bootstrap.mk: ds101-bootstrap: Bump PR Sep 18 21:46:17 yup Sep 18 21:46:48 it's time to rebuild the bootstrap scripts then ;-) Sep 18 21:47:27 NAiL: do you have a new ds-10x? Sep 18 21:47:36 nope :-\ Sep 18 21:47:57 I got myself a thecus n2100 instead ;) Sep 18 21:48:13 (and I'm apparently getting an FSG-3 too) Sep 18 21:48:14 mcdmx: last time I looked for the ipkg sources from cvs, it looked very different at the place where you patched Sep 18 21:48:55 gda_: i wrote the patch last year... so this might explain Sep 18 21:49:09 wanted to have a fsg-3 first, but ds101g has more power Sep 18 21:49:20 I was to lazy to forward it to the ipkg-maintainers Sep 18 21:49:36 mcdmx: I tried replacing the flash chip with CFI flash (using the alternate pads), but it didn't work :-\ Sep 18 21:50:08 what about your call for donations? Sep 18 21:50:09 but I know the sources before you patched, and you was right with you patch after this I took from cvs and everything was differnt Sep 18 21:50:59 the bootstrap would need some tweaks to make it work on newer ppc-ds-boxes... Sep 18 21:51:09 because? Sep 18 21:51:13 since they now ship a full glibc (including e.g. libpthread.so*) Sep 18 21:51:31 and the bootstrap for the ppc installs some libraries that where previously missing Sep 18 21:51:47 ah, minor tweaks I take it? Sep 18 21:52:29 I have an old ds101g+ and it has libpthread.so* Sep 18 21:52:52 in previous versions, the whole rootfs had to fit in flash, but now the rootfs is transferred from the windoze-installer Sep 18 21:53:02 yes Sep 18 21:53:13 gda_: yup, but e.g. 106 comes with libpthread et al Sep 18 21:53:20 It can't repair itself anymore Sep 18 21:53:56 the same is true for the ds101j Sep 18 21:54:12 see the "workaround" at the end of this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/DS101BootStrap Sep 18 21:54:13 with or without Sep 18 21:54:39 I don't understand your sentence Sep 18 21:54:57 which one? Sep 18 21:55:08 gda_: yup, but e.g. 106 comes with libpthread et al Sep 18 21:56:08 hmmm... IIRC, early firmware versions didn't have libpthread, etc. Sep 18 21:56:18 let me check the bootstrap-makefile... Sep 18 21:56:38 but I think this was only true for the ds101/ds101j Sep 18 21:56:57 and I think the ds106 is like a ds101g+ with less memory Sep 18 21:57:18 IIRC than has the d106 powerpc too Sep 18 21:57:35 but maybe I am wrong Sep 18 21:57:56 yes, the 106 is also a ppc... Sep 18 21:58:10 well, I guess I'll see later this week Sep 18 21:58:14 have a look at row 117-120 in ds101-bootstrap.mk Sep 18 21:58:25 I'll be upgrading a ds101 to the latest firmware and trying to bootstrap Sep 18 21:58:41 it copies libpthread, librt, libutil and libgcc to the ipkg Sep 18 21:58:58 which *used* to be necessary on the ds101 Sep 18 21:59:22 NAiL: no, this used to be necessary for the g+ ;-) Sep 18 21:59:43 tomorrow my wife is back after being I month in russia, not so much time anymore for coding Sep 18 21:59:43 for the 101, it copies lib* Sep 18 22:00:00 which is... big Sep 18 22:00:25 so for newer models (and or newer fw-versions), copying of this libs is no longer necessary... Sep 18 22:00:34 s/this/these/ Sep 18 22:00:34 mcdmx meant: so for newer models (and or newer fw-versions), copying of these libs is no longer necessary... Sep 18 22:00:34 n8 Sep 18 22:00:46 bye bye Sep 18 22:01:02 ah, good Sep 18 22:01:11 I'll take a look at that later this week then Sep 18 22:01:18 it's about time for a new release :-P Sep 18 22:01:49 yes... so whats the status on the thecus nas? can you run debian on it? Sep 18 22:02:39 afaik, yes Sep 18 22:03:00 NAiL: I guess that you would have to build multiple versions of bootstrap.ipk (excluding glibc-libraries for newer models/versions) Sep 18 22:03:01 I haven't done any intrusive stuff with mine yet Sep 18 22:03:48 mcdmx: why? I'm not sure if I want to keep supporting the old firmware-versions from synology... If the latest ones don't need the libs, fine ;-) Sep 18 22:03:53 I'm still happy with my AMD-Athlon "NAS" (2x250GB RAID1, 512MB, 800MHz) ;-) Sep 18 22:04:20 is the 101g+ no longer on sale? Sep 18 22:04:32 not in norway afaik Sep 18 22:04:49 now it's only the 106*, possibly the 40x* Sep 18 22:05:01 * NAiL hasn't kept up with synology Sep 18 22:05:11 * mcdmx neither Sep 18 22:05:42 NAiL: they no longer sell the 101 and 101g+ at my local distributor. Sep 18 22:06:07 So I guess that support for those models can be discontinued. Sep 18 22:06:27 I'd like to update those so that they work good with the latest firmware Sep 18 22:06:38 I have doubts that there will be any new releases for the ds101 Sep 18 22:06:55 (from synology, that is) Sep 18 22:07:26 You would have to find some beta-testers with the appropriate hardware for it... Sep 18 22:07:40 yeah Sep 18 22:07:53 betatesting on the ds101 I can do soon ;) Sep 18 22:09:09 so where did you get a ds101 from? Sep 18 22:09:26 I'm just "getting" one to upgrade the firmware and return it Sep 18 22:09:34 (replacing the disk in the process) Sep 18 22:10:04 so you plan to brick it ;-) Sep 18 22:10:08 So I'll upgrade, {bootstrap, check, fix} (lather, rinse, repeat) Sep 18 22:10:24 nah, won't be touching the flash Sep 18 22:10:46 upgrading the fw *will* touch the flash ;-) Sep 18 22:11:10 yeah, but that procedure isn't exactly avoidable. But it's one time only ;) Sep 18 22:11:47 maybe we should move this discussion to #ds101-linux? Sep 18 22:12:10 yeah ;) Sep 18 22:45:42 03nail * r4064 10optware/trunk/make/ds101-bootstrap.mk: ds101-bootstrap: Update ipkg version Sep 18 22:47:19 03nail * r4065 10optware/trunk/make/ds101-bootstrap.mk: ds101-bootstrap: Update wget-ssl version Sep 19 00:37:29 anyone awake? Sep 19 02:59:50 hi there **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 19 02:59:57 2006