**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 04 02:59:57 2006 Oct 04 03:51:06 hello. Oct 04 03:51:10 anyone awake? Oct 04 03:51:32 has anyone considered piping the actual build details into separate files to keep the size of the log under control? The current log is 55MB and is very hard to read due to the sheer size. Linking to the individual build files would make the main log easier to read as well. Oct 04 03:52:07 latest log is 10MB which is still huge Oct 04 03:52:24 I used MasterMakefile to build openslug. This show'd out as v4.0-beta (thought 3.10 was most up to date version) Oct 04 03:52:34 Anyway, I tried to flash it, and can't boot it. Oct 04 03:52:51 Don't got a serial in my nslu2.. Oct 04 03:53:04 Anyone know if I did something wrong?= Oct 04 03:53:41 tried reflashing? Oct 04 03:53:49 yeah Oct 04 03:53:53 couple of times.. Oct 04 03:54:04 any errors? Oct 04 03:54:10 nope. Oct 04 03:54:38 anyone else running with 4.0? Oct 04 03:54:44 was it working before? Oct 04 03:54:47 (or actually, I ain't running it;) Oct 04 03:54:56 yeah, worked just fine with 3.10beta Oct 04 03:55:08 I tried to flash to 3.10 beta from website and it works.. Oct 04 03:55:26 Just wondering.. Was all this compiling to end up with files that are useless? Oct 04 03:55:34 ah so it works with older build Oct 04 03:55:39 I used upslug2 for flashing. Oct 04 03:55:45 yes. Oct 04 03:55:56 sounds like something went awry during the image build Oct 04 03:56:26 :/ Oct 04 03:56:43 I tried to mount jffs2 image in deploy dir.. Oct 04 03:56:44 look for log files and check for errors Oct 04 03:56:48 on my pc.. Oct 04 03:57:07 but it says that it's wrong format.. Oct 04 03:58:44 where can I find one..? Oct 04 03:58:53 oh.. Oct 04 03:58:55 from stamps.. Oct 04 03:59:32 cat *|grep error gave me nothing.. Oct 04 03:59:48 maybe I flash it the wrong way? Oct 04 03:59:53 I tried 2 ways.. Oct 04 04:00:18 upslug2 -i openslug-nslu2-date.flashdisk.img Oct 04 04:00:37 if you can write 3.1 image then you must be doing the right thing with upslug2 Oct 04 04:01:19 and upslug2 -k zImage-nslu2be -j openslug-nslu2-date.rootfs.jffs2 Oct 04 04:03:59 yes. Oct 04 04:04:05 but files are different from 3.10 Oct 04 04:04:23 3.10 that I used is one I downloaded from download site.. Oct 04 04:32:39 03dyoung * r4186 10optware/trunk/Makefile: Fixup the ts72xx dont-build list Oct 04 04:52:21 03bzhou * r4187 10optware/trunk/make/py-roundup.mk: py-roundup: upstream upgrade to 1.2.0 Oct 04 05:33:39 03placid * r4188 10optware/trunk/make/ushare.mk: ushare: bump build version to rebuild using new libupnp library Oct 04 05:42:46 hello, could someone help/guide me to figuring why my module.h gives me 'nice' errors when compiling a simple .code Oct 04 05:43:23 specifically 'attr' and 'kobj' errors Oct 04 05:43:55 . Oct 04 08:05:27 jake_: 4.0 is bleeding edge unstable - may not work Oct 04 11:08:44 hi. would an external usb network interface give better transfer rates than the regular nslu2 ethernet port? Oct 04 11:09:28 I suspect that it won't, but I don't believe there are hard numbers to prove it anywhere Oct 04 11:10:05 the transfer rates would be limited by the cpu freq? Oct 04 11:10:47 i love my slug, it would be perfect if it was slightly faster Oct 04 11:11:02 have you deunderclocked it? Oct 04 11:11:10 That gives a slight performance boost :) Oct 04 11:11:19 the slug can saturate the 10/100 ethernet interface. It just can't do so when reading from disk Oct 04 11:11:38 ah, yes Oct 04 11:11:44 mine was running at 266mhz out of the box Oct 04 11:11:57 ah, they've started shipping 266mhz slugs... that's nice Oct 04 11:12:14 yes, since may. thanks for the input, rwhitby Oct 04 11:13:32 i guess i'll refrain from buying an usb nic Oct 04 11:22:03 is the onboard nic supposed to be a 10/100 one? Oct 04 11:23:23 it is Oct 04 11:23:29 k Oct 04 11:25:22 then it's settled. a usb nic wouldn't do any better. it would allow routing but i have enough routers around. (btw, if anyone cares, i've finally been able to setup routing and NAT in XP pro) Oct 04 11:38:47 rwhitby: thought something like that.. Oct 04 11:39:10 rwhitby: how do I control which version to build and which version is latest that I could build..? Oct 04 11:39:44 rwhitby: 4.0 was built when I did as instructed on Mastermakefile's wiki.. Oct 04 11:39:46 jake_: the easiest way to build 3.10-beta is to checkout the release sources and build them Oct 04 11:40:15 make openslug-3.10-beta Oct 04 11:40:23 (from MasterMakefile) Oct 04 11:40:25 okay. thanks. Oct 04 11:41:28 Need to build it because I need kernel modules for spca5xx which are compiled only for debianslug/opendebianslug Oct 04 11:41:57 bb file is broken, but I already fixed download paths.. Oct 04 11:49:42 please send any fixes to the list (or me) ;-) Oct 04 11:50:04 well.. Oct 04 11:50:20 check spca5xx in packages.. Oct 04 11:50:25 there's download path.. Oct 04 11:50:46 you need to insert oldrelease in there so the file can be found.. Oct 04 11:51:11 but actually I also made a new bb file for gspcav1 (new name of spca5xx).. Oct 04 11:51:23 but I yet don't have a clue if these build or not.. Oct 04 11:51:31 http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/spca5xx-20060202.tar.gz -> http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/oldrelease/spca5xx-20060202.tar.gz ? Oct 04 11:52:11 yessyes Oct 04 11:52:17 that is correct. Oct 04 11:53:24 there's also newer version on oldrelease directory, 20060402, bb file is identical to 0202 just change everything to 0402 and patch for 0202 works for that too.. Oct 04 11:54:14 does the 0402 version work? Oct 04 11:54:33 03nail 07slugos-3.10-beta * r377 10slugos/openembedded/packages/spca5xx/spca5xx_20060202.bb: spca5xx: Fix SRC_URI Oct 04 11:54:52 I don't know if 0202 version even works since I need to build openslug-3.10-beta first.. Oct 04 11:55:45 ok Oct 04 11:55:55 give me feedback on which versions work ;) Oct 04 11:56:00 but I run 0402 on my desktop gentoo linux.. so I guess it should work on slug too as according to spca5xx-dev's, they also have group working on embedded devices and I even found some conversation about nslu2 and spca5xx.. Oct 04 11:56:56 yeah. Unfortunately I'll be working and next free day is on next tuesday :/ and now I need to build openslug again so I guess it will have to wait 'till tuesday.. Oct 04 11:58:15 I'm in no hurry. I can't test anyway Oct 04 11:58:44 I'm so tired. What I should be doing now, is to cleanup and archive files for gentooslug.. Oct 04 11:59:31 I made a new release for it which compiles both gcc's 3.4.6-r1 and 4.1.1 versions.. last update from me.. other people can carry on it from here.. Oct 04 13:17:52 hey Oct 04 13:18:06 i build a debianslug-image Oct 04 13:18:15 and it works fine Oct 04 13:18:25 when i boot from flash Oct 04 13:18:50 otherwise - booting from sdaX - it gives me the following errors during bringing up the ethernet-interface Oct 04 13:19:02 # ifup eth0 Oct 04 13:19:02 Missing microcode for NPE-B Oct 04 13:19:05 SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error Oct 04 13:19:08 Missing microcode for NPE-B Oct 04 13:19:11 SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error Oct 04 13:19:23 Failed to bring up eth0. Oct 04 13:19:40 any idea? :| Oct 04 14:02:24 yeah Oct 04 14:02:36 datenmaulwurf: you need a firmware file.. Oct 04 14:03:47 you could get it from.. Oct 04 14:03:58 gentooslug files for e.g. Oct 04 14:04:11 one is located at http://www.devroot.de/projects/nslu2 Oct 04 14:04:14 ah, ok Oct 04 14:04:15 but Oct 04 14:04:17 check readme.. Oct 04 14:04:24 there's info on how to use it.. Oct 04 14:04:25 why it didn't work anymore out-of-the-box? Oct 04 14:04:42 newer kernel? Oct 04 14:04:58 2.6.18 Oct 04 14:05:00 latest Oct 04 14:05:01 openslug itself should contain it as it's needed and it get's ip address and works.. Oct 04 14:05:08 but haven't found it from it.. Oct 04 14:05:24 haven't searched for it so much anyway :) Oct 04 14:05:31 :) Oct 04 14:05:31 yeah, you definetly gonna need it.. Oct 04 14:05:37 want some help? Oct 04 14:05:37 ok, i'll try it - thank you very much! Oct 04 14:06:21 i'll try it by mysqlf first - if i didn't get it to work i'll ask again :) Oct 04 14:06:21 I have microcode file now on my server.. Oct 04 14:06:52 get it from http://www.roadrunner.cx/gentooslug/IxNpeMicrocode.dat Oct 04 14:07:00 thanks a lot Oct 04 14:07:30 store it in /lib/firmware Oct 04 14:07:30 on your slug ofcourse :) Oct 04 14:07:30 but Oct 04 14:07:53 on slugos it works fine Oct 04 14:07:53 only under debianslug i get these errors Oct 04 14:07:53 and download also: Oct 04 14:08:00 http://www.roadrunner.cx/gentooslug/nslu2init Oct 04 14:08:05 that shows how it is used. Oct 04 14:08:34 You need to load microcode before any ethernet device stuff as you see.. Oct 04 14:08:48 ok Oct 04 14:09:22 script propably won't work just out of the box for debian but gives you a pretty good picture of how to modify your init script or create own initscript like I've done for gentooslug. Oct 04 14:09:51 It's for version 2.6.16 but afaik, it should work for 2.6.18 as it's just a firmware.. Oct 04 14:09:51 not a kernel module.. Oct 04 14:10:23 important lines for you in initscript.. Oct 04 14:10:39 are lines starting with mknod and cat Oct 04 14:10:49 devices on your system might be different.. Oct 04 14:11:06 as ixp400_eth might have changed in newer kernels.. Oct 04 14:11:25 this should get you a pretty nice start. Oct 04 14:12:31 now I'll continue making my final release of gentooslug and then I finally can begin to use my slug for everything I planned to use it :) Oct 04 14:12:59 :) Oct 04 14:13:02 thanks Oct 04 14:13:04 yes Oct 04 14:13:06 my slug... Oct 04 14:13:16 .. Oct 04 14:13:23 will be figure as mythtv-server if everything will work Oct 04 14:13:39 mine will be mostly for what it's been built for.. Oct 04 14:13:44 file server :) Oct 04 14:13:46 ;) Oct 04 14:13:51 well, also ldap server.. Oct 04 14:14:07 and with fileserver.. Oct 04 14:14:32 I mean that samba just isn't enough. I want nfs too.. and it should act as WINS server.. Oct 04 14:14:54 along as it should be running media connect capable software.. Oct 04 14:15:15 I want it to share files for my kiss dp-600 via windows media connect feature.. Oct 04 14:15:22 ushare for e.g. Oct 04 14:16:02 also openntpd and it should work as tftp server for my ltsp.. Oct 04 14:16:18 nfs... Oct 04 14:16:28 did you use nfs3 oder v2? Oct 04 14:16:34 nfs3 Oct 04 14:16:47 because the v3-serevr (unfs i think) panic's my nslu2 always Oct 04 14:16:53 I run gentooslug from openslug installation.. Oct 04 14:17:00 and if I remember correctly.. Oct 04 14:17:05 openslug comes with v3.. Oct 04 14:17:49 usage guide is on my server: http://www.roadrunner.cx/gentooslug check Readme. Oct 04 14:18:07 If you interested to see how I have done this.. Oct 04 14:18:26 (well, I haven't been all alone with this all the time) Oct 04 14:19:24 there's also standalone gentooslug (running their own kernel and modules) Oct 04 14:19:41 hmm Oct 04 14:19:46 gentooslug - another option Oct 04 14:20:09 but I think - it'll take years to compiled everything i want ^^ Oct 04 14:20:10 but this was my way. This way there's a group (openslug devs) taking care of stable kernel developing.. Oct 04 14:20:22 really.. Oct 04 14:20:29 check what it already includes.. Oct 04 14:22:26 It kinda fights against of thought about gentoo that it comes with pre-installed stuff.. Oct 04 14:22:40 but it's a lot faster to remove stuff than compile it.. so :) Oct 04 14:23:11 for e.g. latest mysql5 with all that I enabled for it.. took about 2 days to natively compile with slug.. Oct 04 14:23:30 but removing it propably takes only couple of minutes :) Oct 04 14:25:19 -.- Oct 04 14:25:32 not trying to advertise this here.. Oct 04 14:25:32 that's the feature i ever searched for Oct 04 14:25:48 since I think-- Oct 04 14:25:54 gentoo isn't for everyone.. Oct 04 14:26:07 but my other machines run gentoo.. Oct 04 14:26:15 so I'd like to keep my slug the same way :) Oct 04 14:34:18 :) Oct 04 15:05:10 cat /lib/firmware/NPE-B < /dev/ixNpe Oct 04 15:05:12 -bash: /dev/ixNpe: No such device or address Oct 04 15:05:35 :| Oct 04 17:02:59 ok, can anyone help me figure out why ds101-bootstrap fails to build? Oct 04 17:03:00 install -m 755 /home/repvik/slug/optware/builds/ds101-bootstrap/lib* /home/repvik/slug/optware/builds/ds101-bootstrap-1.0-ipk/opt/lib/ Oct 04 17:03:03 install: omitting directory `/home/repvik/slug/optware/builds/ds101-bootstrap/libgcc_s.so.1.dir' Oct 04 17:03:06 install: omitting directory `/home/repvik/slug/optware/builds/ds101-bootstrap/libstdc++.so.5.0.6.dir' Oct 04 17:03:09 make: *** [/home/repvik/slug/optware/builds/ds101-bootstrap_1.0-1_armeb.ipk] Error 1 Oct 04 17:03:14 I can't really say I know what makes it fail... Oct 04 17:10:29 morning VoodooZ :) Oct 04 17:11:01 Hey Nail! Long time no chat! Oct 04 17:11:07 I'm pretty good. You? Oct 04 17:11:16 Good :) Oct 04 17:11:21 Trying to get a ds101 working Oct 04 17:12:14 I noticed the excellent work being done on slugos4. Looking good. Oct 04 17:12:27 I'll have to stop testing it... Oct 04 17:12:27 yeah Oct 04 17:12:37 stop testing? :) Oct 04 17:12:41 Is it the same method? wget URL/Makefile; make? Oct 04 17:12:49 oops start testing. Oct 04 17:13:59 yeah, make sure you start with a clean dir ;) Oct 04 17:15:28 definitely. Oct 04 17:15:43 you have serial IIRC? Oct 04 17:15:50 btw, do you know how I could get the latest ov511 tarballs (2.32) to build as an OE package? Oct 04 17:15:51 I think it might be necessary ;) Oct 04 17:15:58 I tried cloning the Pwc driver but still doesn't work. Oct 04 17:16:05 where does it fail? Oct 04 17:16:31 install I believe. It says it doesn't find any *.ko to copy. but it's probably because the compile doesn't do anything. Oct 04 17:17:11 ah Oct 04 17:17:21 I'll check my bb file again.... Oct 04 17:17:28 I could look at it later, but now I'm quite busy Oct 04 17:18:07 no problem. I'll keep picking at it. Oct 04 17:18:21 I can't wait to try the latest slugos. Oct 04 17:18:27 yeah Oct 04 17:18:30 It's really looking good Oct 04 17:18:40 I hope to get it running on fsg-3 soon too :) Oct 04 17:18:40 I'll definitely run into issues so you'll see me around more. :) Oct 04 17:18:43 hehe, good Oct 04 17:18:48 fsg-3? Oct 04 17:19:07 freecom fsg-3 Oct 04 17:19:13 a new platform? Oct 04 17:19:16 yeah Oct 04 17:19:42 cool. Oct 04 17:19:47 do you have URL for it? Oct 04 17:19:59 I'm always looking for a faster processor for the vision stuff Oct 04 17:20:17 http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=2348&CatID=&sCatID= Oct 04 17:20:20 same CPU Oct 04 17:20:45 It's basically the same as a slug, but with wifi and a 4-port switch Oct 04 17:20:53 (and E-Sata) Oct 04 17:21:22 cool. Oct 04 17:21:26 VoodooZ: Take a look at the Thecus N2100: http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=1&pid=1 Oct 04 17:21:49 600mhz cpu, 128mb DDR ram (replaceable), 2xS-ATA, minipci :) Oct 04 17:21:59 I'm hoping to get a faster processor eventually. But maybe I'll just end up using a PC or portable in my next project. Oct 04 17:22:10 very nice! Oct 04 17:22:37 The hard part for my application is I have to keep the power consumption low too so... kind of conflicting Oct 04 17:22:45 yeah Oct 04 17:23:16 I've got a thecus n2100, and I'm soon getting an fsg-3. Together with two slugs and currently a ds101, that's a few embedded devices ;-) Oct 04 17:23:33 very cool. Oct 04 17:23:46 What's the rated current on the 600mhz one. Is it an IXP? Oct 04 17:23:53 no, it's an IOP Oct 04 17:23:59 no idea of the power usage Oct 04 17:24:16 It's even got rs232 levels :-D Oct 04 17:24:36 (on the serial port) Oct 04 17:25:19 lennert is working on a rewrite of iop afaik. It's all going into 2.6.19 IIRC Oct 04 17:25:42 so then I'm just lacking the userspace stuff I believe. Oct 04 17:26:44 and the thecus has 2xGBLan :D Oct 04 17:28:23 [phone] Oct 04 17:31:38 of course, [g2]'s Loft has more CPU ;-) Oct 04 17:31:42 bbiaw Oct 04 17:34:22 IOP?? Intel ethernet shit. Oct 04 17:35:20 I think the thecus uses an RTL chip for network Oct 04 17:35:48 i see. Oct 04 17:35:53 How fast is the latest loft? Oct 04 17:36:17 I would get one but it's a bit too expensive for my hobby budget Oct 04 17:36:41 I would get a gumstix but unless they finally got USB host mode working and USB2 I'm not interested. Oct 04 17:36:45 Dunno. I know there was 533MHz Oct 04 17:36:54 yeah. me too. Oct 04 17:37:01 Maybe I'll get one at 933. Oct 04 17:37:14 ooh, that's quite snappy ;) Oct 04 17:38:08 the problem with vision algorithms is it needs really fast RAM and lots of cache so it's more a PC thing. Oct 04 17:38:15 ah Oct 04 17:38:26 the N2100 has DDR3200 IIRC Oct 04 17:38:31 Problem with the PC is that it has more power hungry stuff than I need and it's bulky. Oct 04 17:38:35 nice! Oct 04 17:38:53 theoretically expandable to 1GB, known working with 512MB Oct 04 17:38:56 I guess I could keep my slug for AI and a second one for vision. :) Oct 04 17:39:16 how big is the 2100's board ? Oct 04 17:39:39 much bigger than the slug, I'm afraid Oct 04 17:40:08 NAiL, btw, is a kernel module tarball like the pwc or ov511 use the new kernel build method or the old external makefile type? Oct 04 17:40:32 yeah. that's why the slug was love at first sight. Pretty compact and low-power! Oct 04 17:40:57 http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/gallery.html <-- pics of the n2100 Oct 04 17:41:22 VoodooZ: uh, dunno Oct 04 17:41:32 the zd1211 module uses an external makefile afaik Oct 04 17:43:02 yeah plus the zd1211 is being completely rewritten and is now part of 2.6.18. Oct 04 17:43:11 still very alpha though. Oct 04 17:43:31 but I'll try it Oct 04 17:43:36 yeah, it's build that way in 4.0-beta actually Oct 04 17:43:50 the driver has a few fixes from upstream after the release of 2.6.18 Oct 04 17:44:01 nice. Oct 04 17:44:06 (in our repo) Oct 04 17:44:31 btw, is the debian slug thing slim enough to use for my robot? Oct 04 17:44:37 Of course, I'm interested in getting zd1211rw tested and working good enough quickly ;-) Oct 04 17:44:57 you want to run "proper" debian on your slug? Oct 04 17:45:25 I don't know yet. I just feel like everybody is working/using it. Oct 04 17:45:47 that's why I was happy to see people were working on slugos4. I thought it was forgotten! :) Oct 04 17:46:01 well, debianslug without debian is just LE openslug. Lower network performance, but easier to port stuff. Oct 04 17:46:12 As long as things are modular enough to remove/add than I'm find. Oct 04 17:46:21 debian on top of debianslug uses hardfloat, so triggers exceptions in the kernel, which is slooow. Oct 04 17:46:29 I just don't want my boot time to take forever because of extra fluff. Oct 04 17:46:41 i see. Oct 04 17:46:50 I guess I'll stick with slugos then. Oct 04 17:47:09 not a bad idea on the robot tbh Oct 04 17:47:16 I wonder if the head includes a newer glibc with NPTL by now? Oct 04 17:47:47 I believe there was work to include 2.4 NTPL Oct 04 17:47:52 dunno what happened though Oct 04 17:47:57 brb Oct 04 17:50:35 good. I'm just tired of the limited linuxthreads crap. It's limiting. Oct 04 17:51:01 I think NPTL for ARM was still buggy last time I checked here (last year). Oct 04 17:51:17 because if NPTL is the default in slugos I'm definitely switching today! Oct 04 17:51:23 let me know if you find out please. Oct 04 17:53:30 sure Oct 04 18:08:15 Thanks. Oct 04 18:08:58 meh... samba takes *forever* to install on the ds101 Oct 04 18:22:02 gentooslug published at http://www.roadrunner.cx/gentooslug Oct 04 18:22:11 I have troubles using MasterMakefile.. Oct 04 18:22:25 I tried to build openslug-3.10-beta but it fails during bash compile. Oct 04 18:23:00 it reports that libdl.so is ambiguous file format which supports bigarm-elf bigarm-vxworks and bigarm-symbian Oct 04 18:23:05 and that kills it. Oct 04 18:53:09 03bzhou * r4189 10optware/trunk/Makefile: bsdmainutils 6.1.4 is broken on uclibc platforms Oct 04 20:29:17 03bzhou * r4190 10optware/trunk/make/rdate.mk: rdate: changed to a working SITE Oct 04 21:03:53 03dyoung * r4191 10optware/trunk/make/sane-backends.mk: Oct 04 21:03:53 sane-backends: Changed to a working SITE. Stayed with version .17; the Oct 04 21:03:53 newer version .18 does not build. Oct 04 21:04:30 03dyoung * r4192 10optware/trunk/Makefile: ts72xx target: clean up dont-build list. Oct 04 21:05:40 morning rwhitby Oct 04 21:06:07 morning Oct 04 21:06:11 is jake__ around? Oct 04 21:06:19 he was at 20:40 Oct 04 21:06:24 (GMT+2) Oct 04 21:08:23 His distributing http://www.roadrunner.cx/gentooslug/IxNpeMicrocode.dat puts him at severe legal risk. He is violating the Intel license for the microcode and could easily be heavily prosecuted by Intel. Oct 04 21:09:21 If anyone sees him, please let him know, for his own sake. Oct 04 21:15:59 NAiL: samba configure on nslu2 shows: checking for linux sendfile64 support... no Oct 04 21:16:12 while on ds101 it was: checking for linux sendfile64 support... yes Oct 04 21:18:52 ok, I have sent an email to the list regarding jake__ - hope he gets it before Intel's laywers find out about his web site. Oct 04 21:24:58 eno: It appears to work anyway Oct 04 21:25:41 rwhitby: I've gotten the ds101 toolchain to work with the proper gcc/glibc config... but I'm not sure if I should replace the feed or create a new one.. Oct 04 21:25:50 crosstool 0.42 solved the problems Oct 04 21:27:03 NAiL: I can also verify that crosstool 0.42 makes a toolchain that works on ts72xx. Oct 04 21:27:37 a nice side benefit is 0.42 can be compiled with newer compilers (ie: gcc 4.0.x) Oct 04 21:27:49 ah, good Oct 04 21:28:41 hey! Oct 04 21:29:39 I started a make openslug-image using the wget Makefile method (which should be HEAD right?) and it appears it is still using the older glibc. Is this normal? Oct 04 21:31:07 no idea Oct 04 21:31:17 I can't remember who started working on that Oct 04 21:31:25 darn. I guess I'm not getting NPTL. Oct 04 21:31:30 Ok. np. Oct 04 21:31:55 I think I'll take a look and see if I can get 2.4 running Oct 04 21:32:24 it's still using glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r12 Oct 04 21:33:46 2.4 sounds good. sounds like a stable release. :) Oct 04 21:35:24 I guess I could try rolling a .bb file for it but considering I can't even get a stupid cam driver running I doubt I'll get glibc working! :) Oct 04 21:38:17 Ah! I see there's already a package for it too! And they're already at 2.5 Oct 04 21:43:23 I'll try compiling debianslug with 2.4 or 2.5, and I'll see what results we have tomorrow :) Oct 04 21:44:43 Thanks Nail. Much appreciated. Oct 04 21:46:11 building with 2.4 Oct 04 21:46:26 (can't see 2.5) Oct 04 21:48:39 yeah, if 2.4 works then we can fool around with 2.5 Oct 04 21:49:07 meanwhile I'll keep fighting with my darn ov511 driver. still not compiling at all. Oct 04 21:50:10 The log.do_compile file doesn't help much either. Oct 04 21:50:37 I'll be going to bed. Remind me tomorrow if you still can't get it to compile ;) Oct 04 21:53:11 cool. Oct 04 21:53:13 Good night Oct 04 23:05:35 hi Oct 04 23:11:07 03bzhou * r4193 10optware/trunk/make/py-routes.mk: py-routes: upstream upgrade to 1.5.1 Oct 05 02:18:10 rwhitby: yes Oct 05 02:18:18 rwhitby: I'm around.. Oct 05 02:18:21 why? Oct 05 02:19:03 oh Oct 05 02:19:14 better check that email.. Oct 05 02:22:27 jake__: better take down that microcode.dat file immediately Oct 05 02:22:32 yeah. Oct 05 02:22:45 you're exposing yourself pretty badly by having it on your web site Oct 05 02:23:22 actually it wasn't on download page.. but what ever.. it's gone now.. Oct 05 02:23:32 does openslug use it? Oct 05 02:24:09 rwhitby: ? Oct 05 02:24:18 yes - that's why you have to click through a license to get an openslug image Oct 05 02:24:23 okay.. Oct 05 02:24:30 and why you have to download the NPE microcode yourself to be able to build openslug Oct 05 02:24:46 that means I have to copy that page (if legal) since same file is contained in gentooslug's rootfs.. Oct 05 02:25:10 and it's pretty useless without it.. Oct 05 02:25:37 indeed - distributing it without an appropriate click-through license which makes the recipient accept the intel license is a violation of the license you agreed to when you got the file in the first place (even if you didn't read what you clicked through( Oct 05 02:26:05 I need to report about this to gentoo forums since my build isn't only build containing it.. Oct 05 02:27:37 anyone building with it must have agreed to the intel license to get the file in the first place, and are therefore bound by that license and cannot distribute that file except under the conditions that the license states. Oct 05 02:28:03 And this is Intel's crown jewels. They *will* come after you about this stuff. Oct 05 02:28:05 okay. I'll make that page tomorrow. Oct 05 02:28:46 Just came from work so I'm little too tired to do any changes right now.. Oct 05 02:29:06 We can also offer to host the rootfs at slug-firmware.net if you like. Oct 05 02:29:20 That would be great.. Oct 05 02:29:29 since I am asking about hosting @ gentoo's forums.. Oct 05 02:29:41 I have only un reliable 8m/1m line.. Oct 05 02:30:06 and 1st version was downloaded about 18 times.. Oct 05 02:30:13 in past month.. Oct 05 02:31:11 but hey.. Oct 05 02:31:15 I'm really tired.. Oct 05 02:31:18 capacity is no problem - we have a hosting solution which is scalable. Oct 05 02:31:28 yeah... Oct 05 02:31:37 (our nslu2-linux.org machine is in the same rack as kernel.org and mythtv.org and debian.org ...) Oct 05 02:31:53 well actually capacity isn't a problem.. but I do use my server for lots of stuff :) Oct 05 02:32:10 so it's not that reliable also (runs unstable gentoo) Oct 05 02:32:12 http://osuosl.org/hosting/clients - read the nslu2-linux entry Oct 05 02:32:23 okay.. Oct 05 02:32:38 and then look at who we share hosting with :-) (and for free) Oct 05 02:33:19 yeah :) Oct 05 02:33:33 Feel free to take that file anytime and host it with license :) Oct 05 02:34:33 heh, about law stuff.. Oct 05 02:35:14 I just today called my ISP on told 'em that if they don't fix my connection immediately I will sue them :) (or actually there's an organization that sues them for me for selling stuff that isn't what it shoulds be) Oct 05 02:35:33 because my line has been broken about 20 times on past week.. Oct 05 02:35:48 well, we won't just take it and host it - we'll organise how you get to cause new versions to be uploaded. We're not about hosting once-off files, but supported firmware and rootfs images. Oct 05 02:36:23 ofcourse, I can do that too.. Oct 05 02:36:44 but hey.. what about talking about this later? I really need to go to sleep, it's almost 6am now :) Oct 05 02:36:58 and I think that I will fall asleep to this chair soon.. Oct 05 02:37:12 I can be reached sometimes from here, or by email jake1981@luukku.com Oct 05 02:37:15 oops :) Oct 05 02:37:24 now I will get more spam.. Oct 05 02:39:13 well.. thanks for everything. Now I have to go.. gnight.. Oct 05 02:45:30 * jake__ gone to sleep.. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 05 02:59:57 2006