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Nov 19 03:41:32 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r4502 10optware/trunk/Makefile: promoted mp3blaster
Nov 19 04:20:19 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r4503 10optware/trunk/make/bash.mk: bash: upstream upgrade to 3.2
Nov 19 06:51:21 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r4504 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/connect.mk): added and promoted 'connect'
Nov 19 07:51:10 <CIA-8> 03blaster8 * r583 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.18/ (00-linux-2.6.18.2.patch 00-linux-2.6.18.3.patch series): Update to 2.6.18.3
Nov 19 11:27:01 <likewise> morning fooks
Nov 19 12:26:53 <NAiL> morning likewise 
Nov 19 12:27:08 <NAiL> no, not buildroot-ng, just the buildroot in optware
Nov 19 12:27:20 <likewise> NAiL: morning NAiL. 
Nov 19 12:27:53 <likewise> NAiL: So buildroot-ng is for openwrt, buildroot is in optware?
Nov 19 12:27:59 <NAiL> yeah
Nov 19 12:28:22 <likewise> NAiL: I'll try to remember. Lotsof build environments and distros's these days...
Nov 19 12:30:27 <NAiL> yeah
Nov 19 12:31:54 <CIA-8> 03nail * r4505 10optware/trunk/Makefile: Makefile: Add QNap TS-101 as an optware target
Nov 19 12:33:39 <CIA-8> 03nail * r4506 10optware/trunk/make/buildroot.mk: buildroot.mk: Add various stuff to enable TS-101 as a working target
Nov 19 12:34:06 <NAiL> now to figure out why it uses the wrong .config..
Nov 19 12:54:35 <likewise> dwery: ping
Nov 19 12:57:54 <dwery> likewise: pong
Nov 19 12:58:09 <likewise> dwery: hi there dwery. 
Nov 19 12:58:43 <likewise> dwery: I just built a IXP4xx kernel without PCI support (for boot purposes), however your PATA driver depends on some PCI function it seems.
Nov 19 12:59:05 <dwery> mm...
Nov 19 12:59:07 <dwery> let me check
Nov 19 12:59:23 <likewise> dwery: http://pastebin.ca/252398
Nov 19 12:59:24 <dwery> yes, probably some kine of readb/writeb
Nov 19 12:59:49 <dwery> whoops.. no
Nov 19 12:59:50 <likewise> dwery: ‘ata_pci_default_filter’ undeclared
Nov 19 12:59:52 <dwery> ata_pci_default_filter
Nov 19 12:59:54 <likewise> yup
Nov 19 12:59:58 <dwery> yes, I think it can be easily solved
Nov 19 13:00:49 <likewise> dwery: cool. My colleague is first designing in a hardware ATA controller (Silicon Image), but I thought I might give the build a try this way :-)
Nov 19 13:01:49 <dwery> likewise: care to make a little patch for me?
Nov 19 13:01:58 <likewise> sure
Nov 19 13:02:05 <likewise> but I have no commit access.
Nov 19 13:02:27 <dwery> thanks. we can pastebin the patch. just define a new function in my driver's code
Nov 19 13:02:37 <dwery> with the same prototype as unsigned long ata_pci_default_filter(const struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *adev, unsigned long xfer_mask)
Nov 19 13:02:58 <likewise> check
Nov 19 13:03:11 <dwery> calling that ixp4xx_mode_filter
Nov 19 13:03:57 <dwery> with the following code:
Nov 19 13:03:57 <dwery> return xfer_mask & ~(ATA_MASK_MWDMA | ATA_MASK_UDMA);
Nov 19 13:04:09 <dwery> we are telling libata we do not support any DMA mode
Nov 19 13:04:26 <likewise> ok, check
Nov 19 13:04:42 <dwery> then, this should be changed to use the new function:
Nov 19 13:04:42 <dwery> .mode_filter    = ata_pci_default_filter
Nov 19 13:06:04 <likewise> yup
Nov 19 13:06:12 <likewise> testing build
Nov 19 13:06:15 <dwery> thanks
Nov 19 13:09:26 <likewise> dwery: here you go: http://pastebin.ca/252401
Nov 19 13:09:51 <likewise> dwery: put furnction on top, not sure if that is estatically nice...
Nov 19 13:11:24 <dwery> seems fine to me, I will send to libata mntners. May I have your Signed-off-by: line?
Nov 19 13:13:51 <likewise> dwery: sure, will add that
Nov 19 13:16:32 <likewise> dwery: hmm, I build this against 2.6.19-rc5 from nslu2-linux, is that the right base?
Nov 19 13:17:48 <dwery> yes, it should be\
Nov 19 13:18:28 <likewise> dwery: then this should be it: http://pastebin.ca/252405
Nov 19 13:19:19 <dwery> peefect! will send it later today
Nov 19 13:20:45 <[g2]> likewise rc6 was in the baseline last I checked
Nov 19 13:22:49 <likewise> [g2]: ah well, this is against dwery's IXP4xx PATA driver, so he probably knows if the rc5 baseline is correct for this single-file patch. 
Nov 19 13:23:07 <likewise> [g2]: I will work against rc6 in a moment. I just finished my squashfs patches for 2.6.19-rc5
Nov 19 13:23:42 <[g2]> likewise dwery is definitely the expert, It was just an FYI about the baseline
Nov 19 13:24:15 <likewise> [g2]: yup, kernel.org is my web browser default page actually. :-)
Nov 19 13:24:26 <[g2]> heh
Nov 19 13:24:49 <likewise> [g2]: That's why their traffic is so high :-)
Nov 19 13:26:46 <dwery> it seems everyone started compiling the kernel in the last few days :)
Nov 19 13:26:52 <[g2]> likewise kernel.org should have an rss feed
Nov 19 13:27:38 <likewise> [g2]: I s*ck at using new technologies :-)
Nov 19 13:28:25 <likewise> [g2]: I would like to have a central RSS feed collector (independently from where I am logged in), so that I can skip read news easily.
Nov 19 13:29:23 <[g2]> likewise I think you just need to run an aggregator that's got a shared profile
Nov 19 13:29:34 <likewise> [g2]: yes, can you recommend one?
Nov 19 13:29:43 <likewise> cross-platform ideally.
Nov 19 13:30:00 * [g2] only does Linux so I'm a cross-platform idiot
Nov 19 13:30:18 <[g2]> it's all xml based so it should be very portable
Nov 19 13:31:04 <dwery> likewise: use google
Nov 19 13:31:05 <[g2]> I'm actually looking to switch the things I'm using now
Nov 19 13:31:08 <dwery> it has an aggregator
Nov 19 13:31:43 <likewise> dwery: what is the google service called?
Nov 19 13:32:00 <[g2]> for me the trinity is aggregator, contacts, and bookmarks (all portable and runnable off-line)
Nov 19 13:32:02 <dwery> google personalized home page iirc
Nov 19 13:32:20 <dwery> I use del.icio.us for bookmarks
Nov 19 13:32:28 <likewise> Wow... I should spend some time here... http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/
Nov 19 13:32:31 <dwery> not offline thought, but powerful.
Nov 19 13:32:42 <likewise> I still use the Firefox Bookmarks Synchronizer plug-in
Nov 19 13:32:57 <[g2]> likewise with WEBDAV ?
Nov 19 13:33:33 <likewise> [g2]: in my case, SFTP
Nov 19 13:33:48 <likewise> [g2]: (up), and HTTP (down)
Nov 19 13:34:09 <[g2]> likewise could scp work ?
Nov 19 13:34:41 <likewise> [g2]: not with that plugin, AFAIK. But SFTP (SSH FTP) often is installed when you run sshd.
Nov 19 13:35:08 <dwery> [g2]: where's the kernel rss?
Nov 19 13:35:52 <[g2]> dwery I said there _should be_ a kernel rss :)
Nov 19 13:36:01 <dwery> ach
Nov 19 13:36:31 * [g2] just added the timeline RSS feed for the kernel updates a couple days ago
Nov 19 13:36:45 <[g2]> s/kernel/nslu-linux kernel/
Nov 19 13:36:46 <jbot> [g2] meant: dwery I said there _should be_ a nslu-linux kernel rss :)
Nov 19 13:37:08 <[g2]> jbot got that one all wroing
Nov 19 13:37:21 <dwery> [g2]: trac seems fine.. I would like to use it for my customers
Nov 19 13:37:25 <likewise> http://kernel.org/kdist/rss.xml
Nov 19 13:39:21 <[g2]> likewise sweet!
Nov 19 13:39:41 <likewise> just googled it, there doesn't seem to be a mention anymore on the kernl.org main page...
Nov 19 13:39:53 <likewise> [g2]: what rss aggregator you use for linux?
Nov 19 13:40:49 <[g2]> likewise right now I'm using Kontact for just the aggregator and contact mgmt in KDE on my laptop
Nov 19 13:41:11 <[g2]> the contacts exports and are fully portable
Nov 19 13:41:36 <[g2]> I can export to vcard 3.0 directly to the Nano and everything is there
Nov 19 13:42:11 <[g2]> I'm just playing around with the portability, but to the Nano and OS X things work great
Nov 19 13:48:20 <likewise> [g2]: what's in the Nano then that is related? (I also s*ck at buying enough gadgets :-)
Nov 19 13:48:50 <[g2]> likewise there's a contact menu item
Nov 19 13:49:29 <[g2]> everything is automatically alphabetized and you can just scroll-whell through the list
Nov 19 13:50:15 <[g2]> with the openmoko phone, I'll have that stuff running on the phone and all locked down with keys
Nov 19 13:51:24 <[g2]> as it'll be just another linux box to me
Nov 19 13:53:04 <likewise> [g2]: but at least with the openmoko you can use the contact, the nano is just a way to carry-with-you your contacts?
Nov 19 13:53:15 <likewise> s/contact/contact list
Nov 19 14:05:00 <[g2]> likewise for me it's more of a retrieve issue than update
Nov 19 14:05:03 <[g2]> bbl
Nov 19 14:05:07 <likewise> k
Nov 19 14:11:53 <likewise> Did anyone test printk timestamps on the slug?
Nov 19 14:12:26 <likewise> I'm getting weird results (time seems to jump back and forth, maybe an endianess issue?)
Nov 19 21:23:32 <dwery> ....no updates to the kernel in the last days...
Nov 19 22:01:30 <[g2]> dwery mainline ?
Nov 19 22:01:43 <[g2]> or our repo
Nov 19 22:05:02 <[g2]> dwery there were two old kernel updates today :) 2.4 :)
Nov 19 22:06:20 <dwery> mainline
Nov 19 22:06:25 <dwery> 2.4? what's that ? :)
Nov 19 22:10:11 <[g2]> dwery a distant memory :)
Nov 19 22:10:47 <dwery> I'm waiting for .19 final to recompile for my desktop and laptop..
Nov 19 22:27:07 <[g2]> dwery wow you're crispy fresh on the desktop and laptop
Nov 19 22:30:14 <dwery> I'm .18-xx and .19-xx now... I would like to stabilize with .19 final for at least a couple of months :)
Nov 19 23:07:30 <[g2]> dwery 99% of the time just use the standard ubuntu kernel on the laptop/desktops
Nov 19 23:07:48 <dwery> nothing standard works fine for me :)
Nov 19 23:08:14 <[g2]> dwery is _special_ :)
Nov 19 23:08:14 <dwery> :P
Nov 19 23:08:29 * vmaster used to run -mm for several months
Nov 19 23:09:18 <[g2]> wow vmaster must be up late :0
Nov 19 23:09:23 <vmaster> not that i really needed it, but it was fun playing with all the new stuff
Nov 19 23:09:31 <vmaster> uhm, no
Nov 19 23:09:39 <vmaster> 12:35am
Nov 19 23:09:39 <[g2]> up early ?
Nov 19 23:09:56 <vmaster> heh, no, i meant it's not late yet
Nov 19 23:10:02 <[g2]> ;)
Nov 19 23:10:15 <vmaster> there's 1984 on tv
Nov 19 23:10:27 * [g2] really liked the boot
Nov 19 23:10:37 * [g2] really liked the book
Nov 19 23:10:37 <vmaster> yeah, definitely
Nov 19 23:10:54 <vmaster> that, and "brave new world"
Nov 20 00:41:41 <rwhitby> morning
Nov 20 00:41:49 <Weltto> hello
Nov 20 01:01:09 <kfm82> ping
Nov 20 01:01:15 <kfm82_> pong
Nov 20 01:01:43 <Weltto> pong2
Nov 20 01:02:50 <kfm82> Weltto: thanks, i am just trying to decide whether to use BitchX or irssi on my slug
Nov 20 01:03:08 <Weltto> i prefer irssi
Nov 20 01:03:42 <kfm82> i am leaning towards it myself, currently writing from there... have been using xchat (x11 & aqua) so far, steep learning curve ahead
Nov 20 01:04:09 <kfm82> for starters, how do i enable logging? that's a faq i'm sure
Nov 20 01:04:38 <Weltto> http://irssi.org/documentation 
Nov 20 01:06:41 <Weltto> irssi has quite good /help 
Nov 20 01:09:22 <Weltto> i've coded some simple scripts for irssi. that is easy way to start perl coding. it allow hardware highlighting with slug :)
Nov 20 01:13:17 <kfm82> Weltto: hardware highlighting!? as in making the slug's front panel leds flash and blink?
Nov 20 01:14:40 <Weltto> kfm82: example relay. and that is controlling example smoke machine :)
Nov 20 01:16:42 <kfm82> smoke is controlled via irc?
Nov 20 01:16:58 <Weltto> yep
Nov 20 01:17:32 <kfm82> neat!
Nov 20 01:26:56 <Weltto> but simple microcontroller at serial or usb-port would help a lot. 
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