**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 19 03:00:00 2007
Feb 19 05:31:30 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5534 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/py-weatherget.mk): added and promoted py-weatherget
Feb 19 06:40:53 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5535 10optware/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): added and promoted gnet
Feb 19 06:41:53 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5536 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/gsnmp.mk): added and promoted gsnmp
Feb 19 06:43:51 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5537 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/scli.mk): added and promoted scli, snmp command line
Feb 19 08:21:03 <CIA-19> 03oleo * r5538 10optware/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): transmission: increase tracker inteval to 3 hours
Feb 19 10:10:11 <CIA-19> 03oleo * r5539 10optware/trunk/make/lirc.mk: lirc: initial import - tira driver only
Feb 19 11:30:01 <Caelian|work> hmmmm ... just updated my build-tree ... trying to build a new debianslug firmware suddenly bitbake gives me the following .... ERROR: You must set MACHINE to nslu2le or nslu2be.
Feb 19 11:33:37 <Caelian|work> anyone has any ideas when this started ... and where this should be fixed ?
Feb 19 11:36:14 <drif> I believe it has been implemented few days ago.. you can decide which endian you use.
Feb 19 11:36:32 <CoreDump|afk> Caelian|work: MACHINE=nslu2le,DISTRO=slugos
Feb 19 11:36:42 <CoreDump|home> morning
Feb 19 11:36:58 <Caelian|work> CoreDump|home: where do i now specify those though ?
Feb 19 11:37:09 <Caelian|work> it used to be ... debianslug == le .... openslug == be
Feb 19 11:37:21 <CoreDump|home> Caelian|work: are you using the makefile thingy?
Feb 19 11:37:25 <Caelian|work> yes i am
Feb 19 11:37:34 <Caelian|work> i used to simply run make debianslug
Feb 19 11:37:40 <CoreDump|home> Caelian|work: dunno then sorry.Try downloading the latest Makefile
Feb 19 11:38:53 <Caelian|work> fetvched the latest Makefile ... same thing
Feb 19 14:46:40 <CoreDump|home> rwhitby: you around?
Feb 19 15:08:07 <hillct> is there a way to install an ipk with arguments that are passed to the postinst script?
Feb 19 15:12:36 <Kzar_fr> hillct: you can use ENV variables
Feb 19 15:12:38 <Kzar_fr> I think
Feb 19 15:17:11 <hillct> hmm. Guess that would work
Feb 19 15:18:18 <hillct> but there's no mechanism to pass them on the command line in the install, for example ipkg install mypackage --with-extracoolness=true
Feb 19 15:18:32 <hillct> or some such thing
Feb 19 15:18:45 <hillct> gotta set the enviroment varriable first
Feb 19 15:26:35 * CoreDump|home fights OE to build samba
Feb 19 15:27:13 <NAiL> samba won't build?
Feb 19 15:27:26 * NAiL has spent weeks fighting samba earlier :-P
Feb 19 15:27:37 <CoreDump|home> it's failing for readline
Feb 19 15:27:45 <CoreDump|home> looks like a missing dependency
Feb 19 15:27:56 <NAiL> it should have a readline dep
Feb 19 15:28:18 <CoreDump|home> yeah, it has =) And readline doesn't compile heh
Feb 19 15:28:42 <CoreDump|home> could be a missing automake dependency
Feb 19 15:28:46 <NAiL> heh
Feb 19 15:28:55 <NAiL> readline I don't know anything about :-P
Feb 19 15:30:23 <CoreDump|home> http://rafb.net/p/mg7HpJ25.html
Feb 19 15:30:54 <NAiL> even worse
Feb 19 15:30:55 <NAiL> it's perl
Feb 19 15:30:59 <NAiL> perl-stuff
Feb 19 15:30:59 <CoreDump|home> could just be as well a host problem
Feb 19 15:31:13 <CoreDump|home> :\
Feb 19 15:31:21 * CoreDump|home kinda "dislikes" perk
Feb 19 15:31:22 <NAiL> what build host do you have?
Feb 19 15:31:47 <CoreDump|home> 32 Bit Debian SID. But I compile inside a jail
Feb 19 15:32:19 <mwester> Autoconf is dependent upon perl and perl packages?  I didn't know that.
Feb 19 15:37:19 * CoreDump|home wonders which package might provide Automake/Struct.pm
Feb 19 15:38:14 <mwester> Struct.pm is a generic class; probably inherited by Automake.  But I can't find automake on CPAN...
Feb 19 15:38:47 <CoreDump|home> indeed
Feb 19 15:38:53 <CoreDump|home> has to be some .deb 
Feb 19 15:40:05 <mwester> Actually it's part of the automake package.
Feb 19 15:40:42 <CoreDump|home> indeed, which I just installed. Doesn't help tho
Feb 19 15:41:08 <mwester> /usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake/Struct.pm --- does such a thing exist?  If so, might be a path thing?
Feb 19 15:44:06 <CoreDump|home> mwester: yeah, it's there
Feb 19 15:45:26 <mwester> Also found this:  /home/slug/slugosbe/tmp/staging/i686-linux/share/automake-1.9/Automake/Struct.pm
Feb 19 15:45:51 <mwester> So I suspect that the automake is using a -native.bb package.
Feb 19 15:46:11 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5540 10optware/trunk/Makefile: demoted gnet and gsnmp on wl500g
Feb 19 15:49:07 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5541 10optware/trunk/make/libmrss.mk: libmrss: 0.16 -> 0.17
Feb 19 15:57:29 <CoreDump|home> mwester: unsurprisingly it was  indeed a problem with my jail ;)
Feb 19 15:57:30 <CoreDump|home> NOTE: package readline-4.3: completed
Feb 19 15:59:00 <CoreDump|home> I'm working on adding task-style meta-packages for slugos (slug-task-nas-samba, slug-task-nas-nfs etc) I take it such a thing doesn't exist already, right?
Feb 19 16:00:11 <hrw> CoreDump|home: s/slug-//g
Feb 19 16:00:31 <hrw> CoreDump|home: what if I will want to put 40GB disk in my progear and use it as NAS?
Feb 19 16:01:03 <CoreDump|home> hr
Feb 19 16:01:06 <CoreDump|home> m
Feb 19 16:01:59 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5542 10optware/trunk/make/scli.mk: scli: missed ncurses, readline & zlib in DEPENDS and -stage
Feb 19 16:02:25 <CoreDump|home> hrw: Ok, I get your point.
Feb 19 16:03:50 <hrw> CoreDump|home: we worked too long to get rid of OZ==OE so let now not create OE==nslu2 ones ;)
Feb 19 16:04:59 <CoreDump|home> I still believe that a propper task* for a slug is different than such a task for a PC.
Feb 19 16:05:32 <CoreDump|home> same for Zauruses, ipaqs etc
Feb 19 16:05:48 <hrw> because slug lack screen/input?
Feb 19 16:06:57 <CoreDump|home> that's one thing. Another is that I would like the slug task to be easy to configure. Unlike a normal PC where you can read man-pages and stuff, editing configfiles for everything is IMO not acceptable
Feb 19 16:07:20 <CoreDump|home> on an embedded device
Feb 19 16:07:24 * joshin points out that a slug is more powerful than the 68020 Unix machines that he shared with hundreds of other students when in college
Feb 19 16:08:14 <hrw> joshin: 68020+68851 ones?
Feb 19 16:08:19 * CoreDump|home points out that _many_ slug-users are probably linux newbies, if they know linux at all =) Easy setup is key
Feb 19 16:08:53 <joshin> hrw: Yup.  
Feb 19 16:09:12 <joshin> CoreDump|home: good point.  Not everyone is crazy enough to put Gentoo on their slug.  :D
Feb 19 16:09:12 * CoreDump|home had an amiga w/ 68020 =)
Feb 19 16:09:22 <CoreDump|home> indeed
Feb 19 16:09:37 <joshin> I still have a couple A1000's and a 68020 chassis for one.
Feb 19 16:09:56 <CoreDump|home> I still wish I hadn't sold my A1200 :\
Feb 19 16:10:19 <hrw> CoreDump|home: they are still reachable to buy
Feb 19 16:10:42 <CoreDump|home> hrw: true =)
Feb 19 16:10:56 <joshin> I loved my A3000.  Aah, the good old days.  :)
Feb 19 16:11:06 <hrw> I would like to see A3000+
Feb 19 16:11:12 <CoreDump|home> indeed, amigas were fun
Feb 19 16:11:18 * Kzar_fr had an Atari Falcon; sold it; wants one again badly
Feb 19 16:11:21 <joshin> But the slug is a perfectly usable general access linux machine.  
Feb 19 16:11:32 * CoreDump|home studies tasks/*.bb
Feb 19 16:11:34 <Kzar_fr> joshin: and fanless
Feb 19 16:11:47 <CoreDump|home> might as well add generic *nas* etc tasks
Feb 19 16:12:23 <CoreDump|home> joshin: I agree
Feb 19 16:12:27 * kolla got a bunchload of amigas, heh
Feb 19 16:12:35 <joshin> My first slug is running an irssi proxy which allows me to chat with you fine fellows.  My second one is my backup server.  Combined, they use less power than just the Opty 175 in my desktop.
Feb 19 16:12:35 <CoreDump|home> I have big plans for mine heh
Feb 19 16:13:02 <joshin> I used to drive by the original Amiga Corp offices every day on the way to work.
Feb 19 16:13:13 <kolla> west chester?
Feb 19 16:13:19 <kolla> (iirc)
Feb 19 16:13:22 <joshin> Los Gatos, California.
Feb 19 16:13:34 <kolla> aha
Feb 19 16:13:34 <joshin> West Chester was C='s home
Feb 19 16:13:35 <kolla> yes.. :)
Feb 19 16:13:57 <hrw> w@home:packages$
Feb 19 16:14:00 <hrw> ops
Feb 19 16:14:01 <hrw> w@home:packages$
Feb 19 16:14:06 <hrw>         fsck
Feb 19 16:14:15 <hrw> http://hrw.one.pl/tmp/BookCon.png - my desktop from old Amiga times
Feb 19 16:14:25 <hrw> 720x480x4bit on a1200
Feb 19 16:14:32 * kolla looks around in his office.. A500, A600, 4-5 A1200s, A3000...
Feb 19 16:14:43 <CoreDump|home> hrw: =D
Feb 19 16:14:56 * joshin thinks that kolla should start a museum
Feb 19 16:15:11 <kolla> joshin: really :)
Feb 19 16:15:32 <joshin> I have some ancient 1970's came systems.  
Feb 19 16:15:36 <joshin> game systems...
Feb 19 16:15:54 <CoreDump|home> I'd love to try putting Linux on my old A1200 
Feb 19 16:15:57 <kolla> I have even more at home.. 2 Cd32s, CDTV, A4000 and A3000 :)
Feb 19 16:16:09 <hrw> CoreDump|home: with 030+FPU it is possible
Feb 19 16:16:21 <hrw> CoreDump|home: I started using debian on a1200 with 040/40
Feb 19 16:16:29 * kolla is the "gentoo/m68k guy" btw
Feb 19 16:16:35 <CoreDump|home> hrw: yeah, mine had a "turboboard" w/ 68040 IIRC
Feb 19 16:16:46 <hrw> CoreDump|home: blizzard or apollo?
Feb 19 16:16:55 <CoreDump|home> hrw: hmmmm
Feb 19 16:16:57 <joshin> GVC?
Feb 19 16:16:57 <joshin> :)
Feb 19 16:17:01 <CoreDump|home> I forgot
Feb 19 16:17:05 <CoreDump|home> :\
Feb 19 16:17:06 <HopsNBarley> joshin, you still live in LG?
Feb 19 16:17:12 <CoreDump|home> it had 4Mb RAM tho heh
Feb 19 16:17:15 <kolla> my A600 has apollo.. never really behaved stable with linux or *bsd
Feb 19 16:17:18 <CoreDump|home> and 42MHz
Feb 19 16:17:40 <hrw> CoreDump|home: you had 030/42 with 4MB - M-Tec
Feb 19 16:17:49 <joshin> HopsNBarley: Nope.  I lived in Santa Cruz and was commuting to Sunnyvale when I worked for Hotmail.  I eventually moved to San Jose, then quit MSFT and ended up in AZ.
Feb 19 16:17:52 <CoreDump|home> hrw: quite possible =)
Feb 19 16:18:24 <HopsNBarley> some nice places!
Feb 19 16:18:39 <joshin> HopsNBarley: where are you?
Feb 19 16:19:24 <kolla> Amiga Corp in California didnt do much musefull though, if I remember correctly
Feb 19 16:20:41 <hillct> how is the timezone supposed to be handled in OpenSlug?
Feb 19 16:21:03 <HopsNBarley> joshin, Los Gatos (-;
Feb 19 16:21:13 <kolla> hillct: /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Oslo
Feb 19 16:21:18 <kolla> that's how I do it anyways
Feb 19 16:21:46 <hillct> ah
Feb 19 16:21:49 <kolla> you can also set TZ to /etc/profile I suspect
Feb 19 16:21:54 <hillct> pretty much standard
Feb 19 16:22:04 <hillct> somehow I never set mine
Feb 19 16:22:09 <hillct> no idea why
Feb 19 16:22:16 <hrw> http://hrw.one.pl/tmp/shot.jpg - my desktop from old Amiga times as wallpaper on current desktop... small change of resolution :D
Feb 19 16:22:20 <hillct> is it part of the turnup prompts?
Feb 19 16:22:29 <kolla> if you dont have a /etc/localtime, it will use TZ variable
Feb 19 16:22:46 <kolla> as you can see in /etc/profile :)
Feb 19 16:24:22 <joshin> HopsNBarley: I miss the area.  I used to love taking the back roads from Aptos.  I don't miss the taxes and nanny-state regulations.  
Feb 19 16:24:40 <hillct> I take it there's a package which contains the relevent zoneinfo files
Feb 19 16:25:07 <hillct> somehow that's missing too
Feb 19 16:26:05 <HopsNBarley> pretty much my feeling about it.  i love the proximity to nice mountain biking.  i just go right from my house.  nice.
Feb 19 16:28:05 <joshin> I still have a working one of these: http://www.atari-computermuseum.de/c380.htm
Feb 19 16:31:03 <hrw> joshin: nice
Feb 19 16:32:22 <kolla> :)
Feb 19 16:59:01 <chrismon> man this seems like a lot of work
Feb 19 16:59:25 <chrismon> i'm slowly reading through the wiki and the slugos pages
Feb 19 17:08:49 <joshin> chrismon: with the master makefile, it really is pretty easy.  The devs did a great job with that!
Feb 19 17:15:54 <chrismon> hmm i havent read about that so far
Feb 19 17:16:10 <chrismon> how do you think performance would be with a low-usage apache and tomcat?
Feb 19 17:16:40 <chrismon> its gonna need at least 384M of RAM to do that
Feb 19 17:17:01 <chrismon> i was looking in the "success stories" to see if anyone's running tomcat, but I haven't found anything
Feb 19 17:17:13 <eno> chrismon: tomcat? i don't think so
Feb 19 17:17:38 <chrismon> yeah, bleh
Feb 19 17:17:46 <eno> there isn't any optimized jvm running on the slug
Feb 19 17:18:01 <chrismon> i thought that jamvm was
Feb 19 17:18:01 <eno> all we have is jamvm and sablevm
Feb 19 17:18:19 * VoodooZ_ can breath again after successfully flashing latest apex without jtag!
Feb 19 17:18:20 <eno> maybe you can run jetty
Feb 19 17:18:31 <eno> on jamvm
Feb 19 17:18:39 <chrismon> yeah i've played with jetty, over all it doesnt seem to be much smaller than tomcat
Feb 19 17:18:42 <eno> but i still would not recommend it
Feb 19 17:19:05 <eno> slug is not good for java apps
Feb 19 17:19:27 <chrismon> nothing is really good for java apps, just pc's that are more powerful than needed for non-java apps ;)
Feb 19 17:20:48 <eno> even apache seems a bit too heavy for slug
Feb 19 17:21:13 <eno> try look at cherokee, lighttpd, or nginx
Feb 19 17:21:25 <hillct> oh
Feb 19 17:21:33 <hillct> that was wht I was going to do
Feb 19 17:21:45 <hillct> lighttpd is in optware but not OE repo
Feb 19 17:21:50 <hillct> seems rather odd
Feb 19 17:22:13 <hillct> guess I'll take a crack at building it
Feb 19 17:22:49 <eno> there is openembedded/packages/lighttpd/
Feb 19 17:23:10 <hillct> oh?
Feb 19 17:23:14 <hillct> HMM
Feb 19 17:23:14 <hillct> CHECKING
Feb 19 17:24:23 <hillct> oh. cool
Feb 19 17:24:32 <hillct> just not for release 3.10-beta
Feb 19 17:24:43 * hillct rebuilds for 3.10
Feb 19 17:24:46 <eno> OE has way more GUI packages, perhaps having something to do with the fact OE initially targeting PDAs
Feb 19 17:25:25 <hillct> I was stunned that you vouldd put X apps on the slug
Feb 19 17:39:56 <hillct> wow. this build is SLOWWWW
Feb 19 17:41:07 <HopsNBarley> while you are waiting, it's best to really learn how to write packages for OE for cross compile  (-;
Feb 19 17:41:29 <CoreDump|afk> exactly
Feb 19 17:42:40 <hillct> it took me maybe 36 hourts to get it right the first time
Feb 19 17:42:40 * CoreDump|afk is working on turnup-style samba and nfs configs
Feb 19 17:42:56 <hillct> HopsNBarley: it's worth it
Feb 19 17:43:23 <hillct> I updated the docs yesterday with items I ran into, so it should be a bit easier now
Feb 19 17:43:57 <hillct> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/SlugosbeDevel
Feb 19 17:44:11 <hillct> I recommend avoiding optware in favor of the OE packages
Feb 19 17:45:00 <hillct> if you've ever put together a .deb or RPM package, Bitbake is not a huge leap
Feb 19 17:45:10 <HopsNBarley> if you aren't running too much on the slug already, you could try my apache2 package.  it's in OE.
Feb 19 17:46:54 <hillct> LOL
Feb 19 17:47:01 <hillct> I misread your earlier comment
Feb 19 17:47:08 <hillct> thought you were asking if it was worthwhile
Feb 19 17:47:30 <hillct> yeah, I'll test it out as soon as I'm done with the lighttpd build
Feb 19 17:51:39 <hillct> HopsNBarley: is this the r4 package?
Feb 19 17:55:07 <HopsNBarley> uh, i guess so.  lemme check.
Feb 19 18:03:37 <HopsNBarley> hillct: apache 2.2.3 r4
Feb 19 18:03:43 <hillct> K
Feb 19 18:03:45 <hillct> damnit
Feb 19 18:03:52 <hillct> sqllite package is hosed
Feb 19 18:04:00 <hillct> do not easy lighttpd build
Feb 19 18:04:05 <hillct> now for apache2...
Feb 19 18:04:13 <HopsNBarley> it'll work flawlessly  (-;
Feb 19 18:05:40 <hillct> there's aparenrly a package called apache which is apache 2.054
Feb 19 18:06:09 <hillct> assuming it builds cleanly, it would probably make sense to rename your package
Feb 19 18:24:44 <hillct> HopsNBarley: the build process is proceeding cleanly, for what it's worth...
Feb 19 18:27:32 <HopsNBarley> when i wrote apache 2.x, apache contained only 1.x recipies.  hence the name.
Feb 19 18:27:45 <HopsNBarley> it seemed cleaner that way.
Feb 19 18:28:06 <hillct> yeah, although, moving forward, it'll get messy
Feb 19 18:30:27 <HopsNBarley> i don't think so.  apache moves pretty slow anyway.  but for correctness sake, the dirs probably could be merged.
Feb 19 18:54:55 <joshin> It should be fine if you limit the number of threads.  
Feb 19 19:12:28 <hillct> HopsNBarley: different error in configure under HEAD
Feb 19 19:13:09 <hillct> related to Void lengths
Feb 19 19:16:55 <HopsNBarley> hillct, i'll check it out this afternoon.
Feb 19 19:21:13 <hillct> it appears that the sqlite package included in the slugos-3.10-beta repo needs to be uodated since version sqlite3-3.2.7 of the upstream tarball is no longer available for download
Feb 19 19:21:27 <hillct> er updated
Feb 19 20:00:57 <rwhitby> CoreDump|afk: here now
Feb 19 20:22:32 <CoreDump|home> rwhitby: hey. The altboot stuff will have to wait until the parts for the serial cable arrive. Right now I'm working on slug-tasks for comming stuff like samba/nfs/bluetooth/wifi etc
Feb 19 20:22:43 <CoreDump|home> !test
Feb 19 20:36:30 <rwhitby> CoreDump|home: cool
Feb 19 20:36:44 <rwhitby> slugos can do with some good taskifying
Feb 19 20:39:08 <hillct> rwhitby: what's the procedure for getting packackages updated? just send it to the mailing list?
Feb 19 20:40:04 <rwhitby> getting packages added to OE, or getting packages that are already in OE added to the slugos feeds?
Feb 19 20:50:01 <hillct> rwhitby: both
Feb 19 20:51:06 <hillct> two new packages, I've created and lighttpd which I just built from OE and am testing on my slug
Feb 19 21:04:48 <rwhitby> hillct: put them on the oe bugtracker as a new package - if you do that often enough they will grant write privs
Feb 19 21:05:28 <CoreDump|home> read: If you pester them enough =D
Feb 19 21:05:28 <rwhitby> if it already exists, then ask someone with write privs to add it to slugos-packages so it goes in the feeds.
Feb 19 21:06:49 <hillct> well, as it turns out, the lighttpd package appears broken
Feb 19 21:06:55 <hillct> unfortunately
Feb 19 21:23:36 <hillct> rwhitby: the sqlite package version 3.2.7 included in the 3.10-beta feed relies on an upstream sqlite tarball that is no linger available. I just confirmed that the updated version of the sqlite package version 3.3.12 builds properly for 3.10-beta
Feb 19 21:42:05 <CIA-19> 03oleo * r5543 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/firmware-oleg.mk): firmware-oleg: builds Oleg custom firmware as package
Feb 19 21:48:40 <CIA-19> 03oleo * r5544 10optware/trunk/Makefile: optware: bring back some uClibc packages
Feb 19 23:45:00 <NAiL> *sigh*
Feb 19 23:45:21 <NAiL> My optware stuff has been building for 8 hours. It's looping on the freaking toolchain
Feb 19 23:47:14 <CIA-19> 03oleo * r5545 10optware/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): pure-ftpd: cross compile for uClibc and others
Feb 20 00:29:13 <CIA-19> 03bzhou * r5546 10optware/trunk/make/nginx.mk: nginx: 0.5.12 -> 0.5.13
Feb 20 00:31:52 <NAiL> hillct: does just renaming the .bb work?
Feb 20 00:35:04 <hillct> for what?
Feb 20 00:35:13 <hillct> sqlite?
Feb 20 00:36:04 <hillct> I just coppied the content of packages/sqlite from HEAD and compiled using the 3.10-beta toolchain
Feb 20 00:36:49 <hillct> there is a different patch set for the new version although I deidn't dig into exactly what changed
Feb 20 00:42:38 <NAiL> hillct: ok, thanks. I'll update with the version from HEAD
Feb 20 01:59:01 <CIA-19> 03nail 07slugos-3.10-beta * r387 10slugos/openembedded/packages/sqlite/ (5 files in 2 dirs): sqlite: Update to 3.3.12
Feb 20 01:59:31 <NAiL> Anyone familiar with buildroot in optware? My build keeps looping on the toolchain
Feb 20 02:00:29 <NAiL> rwhitby: could you take a looksee? I'm tearing out my hair soon,
Feb 20 02:00:55 <rwhitby> NAiL: which target?
Feb 20 02:03:44 <NAiL> ts101
Feb 20 02:03:53 <NAiL> actually, it appears to have finished building the toolchain
Feb 20 02:04:01 <NAiL> but now it only builds stuff natively...
Feb 20 02:07:29 <NAiL> I don't even know where to start looking anymore
Feb 20 02:07:55 * rwhitby teaches MasterMakefile about optware-ts101
Feb 20 02:08:26 <NAiL> I haven't committed the stuff to optware yet
Feb 20 02:08:26 <NAiL> Because I just plain can't get it to work
Feb 20 02:08:42 <NAiL> now it just removed everything and started doing the toolchain *again*
Feb 20 02:08:57 <NAiL> ah, it's compiling the toolchain once for every package
Feb 20 02:09:10 <NAiL> that's like... cool.
Feb 20 02:09:21 <rwhitby> um, if it's not in the SCM, then it doesn't exist ...
Feb 20 02:09:32 <rwhitby> let me know when I can see it to test it.
Feb 20 02:10:34 <CIA-19> 03nail * r5547 10optware/trunk/make/buildroot.mk: buildroot.mk: Add ts101-stuff
Feb 20 02:11:18 <CIA-19> 03nail * r5548 10optware/trunk/sources/buildroot/ (buildroot.ts101 uclibc.ts101): buildroot: Add ts101 configs
Feb 20 02:11:55 <NAiL> Right about now.
Feb 20 02:11:59 <NAiL> now.
Feb 20 02:12:01 <NAiL> ...
Feb 20 02:12:08 <NAiL> now?
Feb 20 02:12:23 <NAiL> ah, hang on  ;)
Feb 20 02:12:47 <CIA-19> 03nail * r5549 10optware/trunk/Makefile: Optware Makefile: Add ts101 target
Feb 20 02:12:52 <NAiL> there.
Feb 20 02:13:51 * rwhitby starts "make toolchain"
Feb 20 02:14:36 <NAiL> That'll build the toolchain successfully (Atleast on my box). Building anything after that removes the toolchain and starts from scratch :-\
Feb 20 02:16:37 <NAiL> I've now taught Makefile about ts101. I haven't added it to clobber-optware, optware and prefetch-optware targets yet.
Feb 20 02:17:31 <NAiL> of course, it helps to actually sync with mtn
Feb 20 02:17:37 <NAiL> there.
Feb 20 02:18:07 <NAiL> Thanks a lot for taking a look. 
Feb 20 02:20:27 <CIA-19> 03rwhitby * r5550 10optware/trunk/Makefile: Made buildroot-toolchain and libuclibc++-toolchain .PHONY
Feb 20 02:20:50 <rwhitby> try that
Feb 20 02:20:53 <rwhitby> NAiL: ^
Feb 20 02:22:43 <NAiL> heh, thanks
Feb 20 02:23:50 <rwhitby> .PHONY is very important in makefiles.
Feb 20 02:27:30 <NAiL> I really hope that was the problem :)
Feb 20 02:29:09 <HopsNBarley> NAiL, what kernel are you using on the TS?
Feb 20 02:29:53 <NAiL> I haven't compiled the original sources quite yet
Feb 20 02:29:58 <NAiL> it's a 2.6.12.3 kernel
Feb 20 02:30:20 <HopsNBarley> yeah, same on mine.  i'm going to start looking at getting a stock version of same built.
Feb 20 02:30:26 <NAiL> I'm hoping someone in opents will step forward and port the patches to eg. 2.6.20
Feb 20 02:30:47 <NAiL> One of the opents guys have rebuilt the kernel, and it works
Feb 20 02:31:28 <HopsNBarley> excellent.  i'll have a look over there.  thanks.  according to qnap docs/source, it is a stock build (with the right config, of course)
Feb 20 02:31:47 <NAiL> I've cut down the patches a few 100kb
Feb 20 02:31:48 <NAiL> http://mirror.kynisk.com/ts/qnap-kernel-diff.gz
Feb 20 02:31:55 <NAiL> That's the patch against stock 2.6.12.3
Feb 20 02:32:06 <HopsNBarley> ... but i knew that couldn't be right (-;  thanks!
Feb 20 02:32:25 <NAiL> I've got the config somewhere too
Feb 20 02:33:31 <NAiL> http://mirror.kynisk.com/ts/kernel.cfg
Feb 20 02:33:38 <NAiL> that's the defconfig they claim is used
Feb 20 02:33:51 <NAiL> (and apparently, it works for one of the opents guys)
Feb 20 02:33:51 <HopsNBarley> awesome!  Thanks.  i'll let you know.  dinner time - see ya!
Feb 20 02:33:59 <NAiL> bon appetit
Feb 20 02:37:28 <NAiL> HopsNBarley: A few details on the patches..
Feb 20 02:37:52 <NAiL> I think all of the USB-stuff might be irrelevant (Ie, just hacks to get things working on a NAS)
Feb 20 02:38:36 <NAiL> The RTC is a rc5s37x (?) IIRC, for which lennert has been hacking on a driver (I think). It should work just fine.
Feb 20 02:39:08 <NAiL> The NIC is r8192 (On most models. Some are Intel). Should also work just fine.
Feb 20 02:39:32 <NAiL> I'm not *entirely* sure about the sata stuff, but I think that also should work out of the box on a recent kernel.
Feb 20 02:40:05 <NAiL> So that basically leaves init code and the pic-stuff that controls leds and buttons.
Feb 20 02:41:56 <NAiL> That should shave the patch down further, probably to ~25k-ish
Feb 20 02:42:30 <NAiL> (The original patch was 450kb. 150kb was just cvs crap and such)
Feb 20 02:43:51 <NAiL> I believe the only binary module is for the RTC, so an updated kernel can be entirely legacy-free.
Feb 20 02:46:44 <NAiL> rwhitby: no go
Feb 20 02:46:45 <NAiL> repvik    6126  0.1  2.0  15348 10344 pts/1    S+   22:15   0:00 make readline-stage ncurses-stage
Feb 20 02:46:48 <NAiL> repvik    6179  0.0  0.5   7572  2536 pts/1    S+   22:15   0:00 make -C /home/repvik/slug/optware/ts101/toolchain/buildroot
Feb 20 02:47:58 <NAiL> It starts all over again
Feb 20 02:49:54 * NAiL needs to go to bed. 04:23 here. I'll read logs tomorrow.
Feb 20 02:49:56 <NAiL> nite all
Feb 20 02:50:16 <rwhitby> AwayNAiL: will see what happens when my build completes
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