**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 30 02:59:56 2007 Apr 30 03:39:38 03osas * r5998 10optware/trunk/make/monit.mk: monit: 4.8.2 -> 4.9 Apr 30 03:49:17 hi all. Apr 30 03:52:20 g'day Apr 30 05:31:43 03bzhou * r5999 10optware/trunk/make/py-sqlalchemy.mk: py-sqlalchemy: 0.3.6 -> 0.3.7 Apr 30 05:34:12 03bzhou * r6000 10optware/trunk/make/py-pastescript.mk: py-pastescript: 1.3.3 -> 1.3.4 Apr 30 14:41:10 Do I get it right that the opensource nslu2 firmwares come without the proprietary npe microcode? Apr 30 15:39:54 xl0: no Apr 30 15:40:16 xl0: There is a debian-installer image without the microcode, but the npe microcode is required to get networking Apr 30 15:41:04 Unless someone spends an insane amount of time and effort (or intel opensources the microcode, unlikely) reverse-engineering the microcode, it's going to stay that way. Apr 30 15:42:01 NAiL: But how was Linksys able to distribute their firmware? Apr 30 15:44:01 There is a clause in the licence that says they're allowed, since they're selling the hardware that runs that firmware. Apr 30 15:44:14 (something like that, anyway) Apr 30 15:44:27 Intel would be pretty stupid not to allow that ;) Apr 30 15:46:03 The clause also says that you are allowed to redistribute the firmware with the software that is intended to run on the ixp hardware, as long as I understand it right. Apr 30 15:47:05 Well, that's the way I interpreted it too Apr 30 15:47:14 but someone else pointed out that that might not be correct Apr 30 15:47:35 But IANAL Apr 30 15:48:12 AAgrrh. Apr 30 15:48:33 indeed Apr 30 15:48:58 It would be great if we could verify that we could distribute these images without the clickthrough Apr 30 15:53:02 Did you ask Intel? Apr 30 15:55:23 Yes, I've asked intel Apr 30 15:55:41 no clickthrough = no distribution Apr 30 15:57:22 ByronT is our resident Intel expert :-P Apr 30 15:58:08 but I'm not sure about the expert part.... Apr 30 20:28:15 03bzhou * r6001 10optware/trunk/make/irssi.mk: irssi: --with-proxy Apr 30 20:41:23 03bzhou * r6002 10optware/trunk/make/jove.mk: jove: 4.16.0.65 -> 4.16.0.70 Apr 30 23:15:06 Any estimation on ka6sox's return? May 01 00:08:01 03bzhou * r6003 10optware/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): qemacs: added and promoted May 01 00:59:44 03bzhou * r6004 10optware/trunk/make/qemacs.mk: qemacs: --cpu May 01 01:00:42 bkero: ka6sox is around May 01 01:00:49 just /msg him May 01 02:12:24 which package provides libstdc++.so.6?? May 01 02:15:10 libstdc++6? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 01 02:59:57 2007