**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 23 02:59:57 2007 Jun 23 03:35:46 03bzhou * r6292 10optware/trunk/platforms/packages-mss.mk: newt: demoted on mss Jun 23 04:59:19 03bzhou * r6293 10optware/trunk/sources/common/empty.c: empty.c for gcc -E -dM | grep Jun 23 05:06:45 03bzhou * r6294 10optware/trunk/make/swi-prolog.mk: swi-prolog: 5.6.35 -> 5.6.36 Jun 23 05:08:59 03bzhou * r6295 10optware/trunk/ (make/postgresql.mk sources/postgresql/uclibc_no_cbrt.patch): postgresql: get CPPFLAGS used, builds for openwrt-ixp4xx now Jun 23 20:50:21 03marceln * r6296 10optware/trunk/ (make/scponly.mk sources/scponly/ sources/scponly/mkscproot): scponly: Added script mkscproot to create chrooted home on unslung 6.8 Jun 23 23:48:52 Hi, I've looked everywhere to discover if USB Hub support is operation on the slug with a Debian install - can anybody here help with either a yes/no/sometimes answer or a (polite) suggestion as to 'where to go' to find out please :) Jun 23 23:49:39 hm, just try it?!? Jun 23 23:50:09 sadly it doesn't arrive for another 1-2 weeks :/ Jun 23 23:50:58 * NAiL *believes* the answer is yes. Jun 23 23:51:32 Do I get to port XBSMP or has that already been done? Jun 23 23:52:15 *XBMSP Jun 23 23:54:35 If you're going to install debian, it's a question if whether debian supports it Jun 23 23:55:27 Hm! Yes, I guess so! ...I'm still not sure why anyone would want to run anything else :/ Jun 23 23:56:23 there are a lot of ways to use a slug ;) Jun 23 23:56:38 debian is a bit more resource-intensive than eg. openslug Jun 23 23:57:18 also, debian uses hard-float which causes a floating-point speed penalty Jun 23 23:57:59 openslug is way more "basic" than debian though, and has a lot less options Jun 23 23:59:48 I guess that's it really - I plan to have this thing running a fat bunch of apps - possibly soft-raid, but certainly a couple of extra streaming protocols, ftp, http, and a torrent client ...so I want the most flexible option ....I suppose the other OSes are for more "user-like" applications of the slug Jun 24 00:00:09 ok Jun 24 00:00:23 Don't expect soft-raid to give much performance increase though Jun 24 00:00:45 not at all - it'll just be a mirror in case of drive failure Jun 24 00:00:50 and, running torrents works. But don't expect to run a bunch of them ;) Jun 24 00:01:35 So.... what do you guys get up to here if not user-support? Jun 24 00:01:52 This is the dev channel, as stated in the topic Jun 24 00:01:57 I'd love to add a little something as my new "pet-project" Jun 24 00:02:30 wondering if you have a todo list or such Jun 24 00:02:58 Well, not as such I think. There are probably heaps of stuff that need to be fixed Jun 24 00:03:08 I haven't really done any dev work for a while, so I'm a bit out of touch Jun 24 00:03:33 I do embedded stuff for a living AND a hobby [how sad is that? - LOL] Jun 24 00:03:38 haha Jun 24 00:03:54 not really sad Jun 24 00:04:13 until recently, that was what I wanted to do ;) Jun 24 00:04:20 I wrote the documenting disassembler for the ESS video ROMs :D Jun 24 00:04:28 ESS? Jun 24 00:04:47 There are two main competing DVD cores: MediaTek and ESS Jun 24 00:04:53 aah Jun 24 00:05:08 sounds like pretty hard-core stuff then :) Jun 24 00:05:22 I love it :) Jun 24 00:05:34 so much easier when there is no OS between you and the hardware Jun 24 00:05:51 heh, that depends on your level of knowledge ;) Jun 24 00:06:02 all you need is the datasheets and you're away Jun 24 00:06:12 Assembler was fun. Jun 24 00:06:19 I remember doing that back in my DOS days Jun 24 00:06:30 beyond that it's little more than stuffing values in registers (albeit over such as and i2c bus) Jun 24 00:06:47 If you can write ASM you can write ANY language Jun 24 00:06:59 C is just macro-assembler really Jun 24 00:07:26 C is a lot easier to wrap one's mind around Jun 24 00:07:36 of course, it doesn't require much knowledge of the hardware Jun 24 00:07:56 "back in the days", it was great fun. I started with ASM on the 386 Jun 24 00:08:20 LOL ...I'm not sure I should admit to starting on a 1KB Z80 machine Jun 24 00:08:20 (because the stuff I wrote in Pascal was way too slow) Jun 24 00:08:27 haha, why not? Jun 24 00:08:39 cos it'll age me terribly ;D Jun 24 00:09:05 Well, I'm 29 since yesterday Jun 24 00:09:18 Happy Brithday Jun 24 00:09:26 thanks ;) Jun 24 00:09:40 I was programming in assembler when you were about 2 - LOL Jun 24 00:09:51 haha Jun 24 00:10:59 * caplink811-log remembers the good old times where a 8086 was a fast processor ;) Jun 24 00:11:22 LOL Jun 24 00:12:34 I think the slowest cpu I've programmed for was the 6510 Jun 24 00:13:00 the 6502 (65xx) is killer! THREE 8-bit registers :O Jun 24 00:13:14 mind you, they seem to be used ALL OVER telecomms systems to this day Jun 24 00:14:37 heh Jun 24 00:14:59 I destroyed a friend's 1541 with a few POKEs Jun 24 00:15:35 1541?? Jun 24 00:15:40 the floppy ;) Jun 24 00:15:43 ah Jun 24 00:15:44 lol Jun 24 00:16:06 He still owes me a C64... Gotta remind him of that ;) Jun 24 00:16:48 Right now I'm focusing a bit more on my car and less on embedded stuff. Working on a logic circuit for a car alarm today ;) Jun 24 00:17:00 * NAiL bows to rwhitby and mwester's skills Jun 24 00:20:23 in these day tk systems uses modern and fast processors, e.g. xeon, or p4 and free os's like linux Jun 24 00:20:58 I'm only going by the logs for my 6502 manual Jun 24 00:22:44 yeah, misread this, english isn't my native language ;) Jun 24 00:28:00 well, my time is up ...be lucky guys - probably see you again after I've got mine all hacked and wired up :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 24 02:59:58 2007