**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 08 02:59:57 2007 Dec 08 05:16:44 VoodooZ: -rw-r--r-- 1 slug slug 1436768 Dec 2 15:46 zImage-2.6.21.6+svnr927-r2-nslu2le-20071202152514.bin Dec 08 05:17:33 it grew from -rw-r--r-- 1 slug slug 1026652 Dec 1 15:12 zImage-2.6.21.6+svnr927-r0-nslu2le-20071201144913.bin Dec 08 05:56:04 Gack! I hope that's just drivers we would have been required to load as modules anyway. Dec 08 06:14:44 mwester: I believe that is the case, but we should check anyway. One might be reiserfs support for the FSG-3 :-) Dec 08 06:30:29 rwhitby: thanks. I Dec 08 06:30:50 I'm taking my trusty chainsaw out and cutting the fat off! :) Dec 08 06:32:05 Am I wrong or the max size is 1,179,648bytes when using the ramdisk space? Dec 08 06:33:00 btw, monotone server appeared to be down earlier... couldn't 'make update'... Dec 08 06:33:05 anyways, bed time.. will check again tommorow.. Dec 08 06:33:11 later Dec 08 15:30:42 anybody having trouble fetching an update for HEAD? monotone.nslu2-linux.org appears down or somethign.. Dec 08 15:36:29 VoodooZ, try in about 1 minute Dec 08 15:38:18 VoodooZ, try now please? Dec 08 16:02:18 ok Dec 08 16:03:37 ka6sox-laptop: Looks good. thanks mate Dec 08 16:04:02 np...dunno why it was offline..investigating. Dec 08 16:04:26 now I have to figure out why this bloody slugosbe kernel is so fat... 1.4megs is out of control Dec 08 16:07:13 indeed Dec 08 16:08:28 I checked and it's not reiserfs as rwhitby suggested as it's built as a module... Dec 08 16:08:57 what changed lately? the glibc 2.5 stuff? Dec 08 16:09:11 The entire toolchain. Dec 08 16:09:18 ouch. Dec 08 16:09:33 I'm so rusty I don't know where to start... Dec 08 16:09:55 PLus bb is broken since yesterday... that's why I wanted to update my repo... but still the same.. Dec 08 16:10:09 it complains there's bzr module defined..?! Dec 08 17:33:20 VoodooZ: The defconfig seems to build in numerous drivers that used to be modules. Seems the kernel contains the reiserfs filesystem, as well as ext3, and the ATA drivers, and the velocity gigabit network driver... Dec 08 17:33:29 many of which are not even useful on an NSLU2 Dec 08 17:39:26 ouch..that'll bloat a kernel. Dec 08 17:46:31 Yep. I'll try finding the original SlugOS defconfig, and see if that fixes things in a hurry. Dec 08 18:40:12 03bzhou * r7433 10optware/trunk/ (make/clamav.mk sources/clamav/configure.patch): clamav: 0.90.3 -> 0.91.2 Dec 08 18:41:24 Ext3 isn't so bad to have in the kernel. I don't mind Reiser either. Dec 08 18:47:27 03bzhou * r7434 10optware/trunk/Makefile: apcupsd: promoted Dec 08 19:34:21 mwester: thanks. Dec 08 19:35:03 Things Have changed quite a bit since I was here (1+ year ago) so I'm not sure where to start. let me know how I can help... I'll be the guinea pig.. :) Dec 08 19:36:03 I still believe this type of project should be leaner by default as it's embedded stuff, not for a desktop.. Dec 08 19:36:44 the target user for this is usually savvy enough to add/customize... Dec 08 19:37:06 but that's my opinion of course and my needs are special... Dec 08 19:43:45 I agree. The slugos kernel is certainly entirely modular. Dec 08 19:48:44 so where should we start? the defconfig I looked at (packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.21/defconfig) seem to have most of that optional fs stuff as modules... Dec 08 19:48:50 Unless I'm looking at the wrong one? Dec 08 19:51:00 Yep. The one we want is in linux-ixp4xx_2.6.21 Dec 08 19:52:00 ok.. so reiserfs is built as a module then.. meaning it's optionally packaged in jffs2 right? not the zImage... Dec 08 19:52:45 My defconfig says reiserfs is "Y" so it's built into the kerenl. Dec 08 19:53:44 really? ok.. let me check mine again then... shouldn't 'make update' in head/ update all this? Dec 08 19:55:04 odd... mine is =M. we are talking about head/openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.21/defconfig right? Dec 08 19:55:15 No Dec 08 19:55:19 ah. Dec 08 19:55:25 I knew I was the problem! Dec 08 19:55:33 :P :D Dec 08 19:55:55 can you point me in the right direction and I'll clean this mess to my liking... Dec 08 19:56:45 although bb gives me a bzr module missing error since yesterday...so I can't build anyway... I'll try fetching a new head meanwhile.. Dec 08 19:57:20 The defconfig should be the on in openembedded/packages/linux/linux-ixp4xx/defconfig-2.6.21.6 Dec 08 19:58:37 odd. Dec 08 19:58:48 I'm build a fresh head then... Dec 08 19:59:08 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile is still valid? Dec 08 20:00:28 I did a 'make setup' so I should know in a while... Dec 08 20:04:31 Yep, the makefile should be valid Dec 08 20:10:54 ok thanks Dec 08 20:27:24 I just installed monotone on my new machine. Is 0.37 ok? It tells me db migrate but there's nothing yet? Dec 08 20:28:52 there's just monotone/nslu2-linux.mtn in my head at this point... it won't let me run on it. Dec 08 20:31:49 -rw-r--r-- 1 mwester mwester 1003564 Dec 8 14:08 zImage-2.6.21.6+svnr927-r2-nslu2be-20071208194936.bin Dec 08 20:39:32 nice! what did you do? Dec 08 20:40:54 btw, is there a reason why we don't use 2.6.23? I wonder if the tickless stuff would be good for us. Dec 08 20:41:17 I fixed the defconfig - and moved a few more of the crypto routines to modules to get back a bit more space. Dec 08 20:41:27 2.6.23 has problems with the network ATM. Dec 08 20:41:43 ok. THanks. Are you going to push those changes or? Dec 08 20:42:23 * VoodooZ has been burned by 3-way merges in the past... :) Dec 08 20:42:55 After a few more tests. The change in .bb files was to move SlugOS away from its own kernel to a generic kernel recipe. I want to make sure I'm not breaking stuff for the rest of the world. Dec 08 20:43:35 makes sense. I'll test it out as soon as I can get that darn migrate thing working.. Dec 08 21:04:53 03bzhou * r7435 10optware/trunk/make/apcupsd.mk: apcupsd: use more up-to-date config.{sub,guess} Dec 08 21:17:44 Is any development at the moment being based on the Linksys R76 firmware? Dec 08 21:18:12 No. R63 is the most recent released version from Linksys Dec 08 21:19:04 Has anyone inquired Linksys into obtaining the R76 firmware source? Dec 08 21:19:47 Well, rather than just waiting for Linksys to make up their minds. Dec 08 21:19:49 According to the mailing list, yes. But it's not there, and you can't download R76 from the Linksys sites. Dec 08 21:21:08 There's quite a few mailing lists. Which one focuses on unslug development? Dec 08 21:23:20 nslu2-linux on the yahoo list. Should be listed on the wiki. Dec 08 21:25:16 Yes and No. There's a link for the English Mailing List. However, there's no reference if Unslug discussions are carried or openslug, etc.... Dec 08 21:27:14 The archives will clarify what sort of discussions occur on the various lists -- they should be searchable and browsable on the yahoo page. Dec 08 21:30:51 Simple enough. Thanks for the info. Dec 08 21:46:34 mwester: the kernel changes were for generic ixp4xx devices - we just need an nslu2-specific defconfig for it. Dec 08 21:46:44 (in linux-ixp4xx) Dec 08 21:47:52 since the default ixp4xx device in OE is no longer the NSLU2, but a more generic definition of an ixp4xx board, which includes boards that need to boot from disk by default and therefore need those things compiled into the kernel until we work out how to do initramfs. Dec 08 21:48:20 so please don't push a change to the default defconfig, but create an nslu2-specific defconfig instead. Dec 08 21:48:34 (using the 'nslu2' filepath override) Dec 08 22:32:37 rwhitby: I was just about to push a change using "slugos/defconfig.2.6.21.6" --- should that change to "nslu2/defconfig.2.6.21.6"? Dec 08 22:34:34 mwester: that may well do it, but please test first. Dec 08 22:37:13 hm Dec 08 22:37:38 I'm still running ancient 2.6.16 :P Dec 08 22:46:53 rwhitby: That's what I'm testing. But if I can do it by machine, that would allow the creation of a dsmg600 kernel with the necessary drivers built in... Dec 08 22:47:27 yes, you could create a dsmg600 machine.conf file Dec 08 22:48:10 in fact, now we have a generic kernel, we can create machine.conf files for all the supported machines if we want to go that extent. Dec 08 22:48:25 Oh, and BTW the inherit dsmg600 thing doesn't work -- missing stuff somewhere. It's on my list to fix, but in the meantime we can't build images to flash for other than the nslu2 Dec 08 22:48:47 mwester: I think you are the only person who's going to be affected by that :-) Dec 08 22:49:11 Yeah, I know. It's the principle of the thing, and I'll get over it ;) Dec 08 22:49:23 oh, we'll fix it. Dec 08 22:49:58 but I'm working on getting slugos 3.10 feeds back in buildable shape so osas can take over the stable slugos feed management. Dec 08 22:50:10 But first, before I can do anything, I need to find a bzr package for python, in order to make bitbake happy. Dec 08 22:50:40 osas: openslug-3.10 feed pushed Dec 08 22:51:09 Oh - I copied an old OE build env. over to my up-to-date Fedora 7 system, and Unslung builds ok. So it seems that something changed in OE that triggers the failure of Unslung to build now. Dec 08 22:51:28 mwester: oh, we can fix that by going back to the 1.8.8 stable bitbake - koen reverted his patch so we don't need the latest branch now Dec 08 22:51:39 I'll start working on that whilst I wait for either Fedora to package up bzr for python, or for the bitbake change to be backed out :) Dec 08 22:52:28 If we can build 3.10 again, there are some kernel modules that were requested... Dec 08 22:52:59 mwester: yep - osas should be able to handle those now ;-) Dec 08 22:56:05 mwester: pushed bitbake Dec 08 22:56:19 rwhitby: re:openslug-3.10 feed pushed: that's great news Dec 08 22:58:28 osas: we'll do the first package update manually, so make your changes, check them in, and then I'll get the autobuilder to build the manually. once that is found to work, we'll enable the automatic builds of slugos-3.10 Dec 08 22:58:58 ok Dec 09 00:11:37 greetings **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 09 02:59:56 2007