**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 30 02:59:56 2008 Jan 30 03:36:59 03rwhitby * r1018 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.24/ (32 files): Back-ported patches from the 2.6.25 development area to the new 2.6.24 stable area for testing Jan 30 04:01:31 03rwhitby * r1019 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.25/defconfig: Updated for fsg Jan 30 06:04:44 03rwhitby * r1020 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.25/ (ixp4xx-fix-leds-names.patch ixp4xx-i2c-gpio.patch): nas100d disk led is orange when lit Jan 30 06:23:29 03rwhitby * r1021 10kernel/trunk/Makefile: Denote development and bleeding edge Jan 30 07:17:40 03bzhou * r7676 10optware/trunk/make/ (libtorrent.mk rtorrent.mk): libtorrent: 0.11.9+1027 -> 0.12.0 (1037); rtorrent: 0.7.9+1027 -> 0.8.0 (1037) Jan 30 07:48:14 03oleo * r7677 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/mini-sendmail.mk): optware: mini-sendmail initial import Jan 30 08:28:05 03oleo * r7678 10optware/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): transmission: 4839->4868 - NEWS added to help Jan 30 11:47:01 03azummo * r1022 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.25/rtc-isl1208-new-style.patch: isl1208 rtc new style driver, beta. Jan 30 12:52:13 03oleo * r7679 10optware/trunk/make/gnuplot.mk: gnuplot: check for libiconv depend Jan 30 16:08:36 how to you setup redboot's gateway? I can't download the slugos image... Jan 30 16:13:23 you using upslug2? Jan 30 16:13:59 nah. just flashed redboot and want to flash the slugos iamge (8meg) using http method. Jan 30 16:14:58 I've set the ip address using ip_address but it shows 192.168.0.1 as gateway as the sysconf was wiped out.. Jan 30 16:15:01 oh. Then I have no idea Jan 30 16:15:11 what is required for upslug? Jan 30 16:15:17 redboot Jan 30 16:15:22 a mac address Jan 30 16:15:25 That should be it. Jan 30 16:15:40 oh wait Jan 30 16:15:41 ok.. Is that related to redboot's upgrade mode? Jan 30 16:15:50 You need a linux box to flash it from Jan 30 16:15:55 not an issue. Jan 30 16:15:57 yeah, it's the upgrade mode Jan 30 16:16:17 I'll try it... Should be under tmp/ somewhere right? Jan 30 16:16:56 What should be under /tmp? Jan 30 16:17:10 nah. I'll use xmodem instead.. slower but always works.. Jan 30 16:17:20 I'm a serial type of guy! :) Jan 30 16:17:23 upslug2 always works Jan 30 16:17:29 and it's fast Jan 30 16:17:38 yeah, but it depends on ugly fat redboot... :) Jan 30 16:17:43 ah Jan 30 16:17:45 that Jan 30 16:17:47 yeah Jan 30 16:17:56 and some magic from linksys... Jan 30 16:18:18 Hey, if there were a native jtag connector on the NSLU2, I'd likely use that ;) Jan 30 16:18:26 native? Jan 30 16:18:35 it's a custom world baby! :) Jan 30 16:18:41 hahaha Jan 30 16:18:54 go custom or go home! ;-) Jan 30 16:19:06 once you go go custom you never go back.. Jan 30 16:19:13 apex it is... Jan 30 16:19:18 so if I want to build apex, Can I do that on my slugos/le + debian install? Jan 30 16:19:49 not sure about debian but I've been using apex for slugosbe for the last 3 years... boots real fast. Jan 30 16:20:15 I just ran into problems trying to go all LE for some reason... Jan 30 16:20:30 I want angstrom LE so ... Jan 30 16:21:16 no, I need to build apex Jan 30 16:21:49 like I need to compile it Jan 30 16:23:41 Eh, I'll download the source from the svn trunk and see what happens Jan 30 16:24:05 I know there's a package for it in OE but because these guys use it for second stage loader I prefer to build my own.. Jan 30 16:24:29 yeah, you probably are best using theirs... Jan 30 16:30:27 crap.. following the wiki procedure for redboot and after reset I get: RedBoot> boot;exec 0x01d00000 Jan 30 16:30:30 have eRcOmM Jan 30 16:30:33 no node address Jan 30 16:30:33 and nothing else.. Jan 30 16:30:36 Assign mode Jan 30 16:30:50 that's using all stock... Jan 30 16:35:41 Annirak: btw, check out http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/CompileApex Jan 30 16:36:53 VoodooZ_: bahaha.... THanks. Jan 30 16:37:28 the wiki is so f'n useful... I find there's almost too much info! :) Jan 30 16:46:18 how did you get upslug2? Jan 30 16:47:27 the one bb upslug2 buils is for arm.. Jan 30 16:49:48 never mind... I think I found it... Jan 30 16:53:49 working... It is a nice tool. too bad I will wipe out redboot after... Unless someone has a custom redboot that doesn't take 30 seconds to start? Jan 30 17:00:21 VoodooZ_: lol Jan 30 17:00:37 The reason I'm trying to rebuild apex is the extra RAM. Jan 30 17:00:49 I have a fatslug, and I'm not able to use it yet Jan 30 17:02:43 true. Jan 30 17:03:05 upslug worked fine but my slug is still booting into that "assign mode" thing... Jan 30 17:04:30 strange... Jan 30 17:05:29 you know it's strange that you're having trouble with redboot. It takes my redboot about 2 seconds to launch apex Jan 30 17:05:29 I guess I'll have to reflash redboot and the sysconf as maybe there's something half-baked in there.. Jan 30 17:05:45 once it starts yes... Jan 30 17:05:59 but it's stuck at the + sign for a while.. Jan 30 17:06:09 Hmmm... Jan 30 17:06:26 and that was 3 years ago using stock redboot... Jan 30 17:18:47 ok. assign mode is when the MAC stored in flash is blank.. now, I wonder if upslug does that.. Jan 30 17:24:20 upslug shouldn't do that... upslug leaves redboot at the mac addy alone Jan 30 17:25:50 yeah, and the sercomm tool doesn't work on my XP64 box.. crap. another dead-end Jan 30 17:26:37 I guess I'll just go back to apex.. it's a lot less sensitive to that extra fluff... Jan 30 17:27:08 The MAC address isn't in the images; you have to write that into the flash yourself, or (somehow) add it into the image that is flashed by upslug2 Jan 30 17:29:18 You could just write it into the flash with JTAG if the redboot loader doesn't let you. Jan 30 17:34:03 it's a moot point as I eventually want to go back to apex anyways... but thanks anyways mwester Jan 30 18:08:36 if my hard drive is in ntfs and im lookin to set up my nslu device, i read that it will format your hard drive, during installation, but would it be faster for me to format it before hand or just do it during installation? Jan 30 18:09:43 sorry think i posted in wrong channel. Jan 30 18:14:40 03bzhou * r7680 10optware/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ctrlproxy: 3.0.1 -> 3.0.5 Jan 30 18:16:45 * VoodooZ_ is back online... Jan 30 19:16:43 hi all Jan 30 19:16:55 i've buyed today a nslu2 Jan 30 19:17:26 but when i put it on upgrade mode, by holding reset while pressing power button Jan 30 19:17:58 upslug2 tells me: "no NSLU2 machines found in upgrade mode" Jan 30 19:18:03 anyone can help me? Jan 30 19:18:28 do you have the blinking light on the slug? Jan 30 19:18:30 if i start the nslu2, it starts normally without problems.. Jan 30 19:18:34 yes Jan 30 19:18:46 are you on a wireless network? Jan 30 19:18:51 not Jan 30 19:18:53 wired Jan 30 19:19:52 does the slug flash green/red alternatively? Jan 30 19:20:02 yes of course Jan 30 19:21:03 do you have more than one ethernet interface on the computer you are using upslug from? Jan 30 19:22:03 no only one Jan 30 19:22:03 (rare but problematic) Jan 30 19:22:20 i've tried to set: -d eth0 Jan 30 19:22:24 but nothing Jan 30 19:22:24 is the slug on the same switch as your computer? Jan 30 19:23:22 another strange thing is that if i start normally the nslu2 and then run: upslug it tells me: Jan 30 19:23:25 NSLU2 00:1a:70:a2:de:41 Product ID: 1 Protocol ID: 0 Firmware Version: R23V24 [0x2324] Jan 30 19:23:37 yes on the same switch also by linksys Jan 30 19:24:27 maybe the Firmware version is too new? Jan 30 19:24:32 no Jan 30 19:24:35 :S Jan 30 19:25:15 it's normal that i see this output by upslug when nslu2 is running normally? Jan 30 19:25:47 it should say "no slugs found in upgrade mode" Jan 30 19:26:15 yes, so what is happening? :| Jan 30 19:26:40 my nslu2 stays always in upgrade mode? :| Jan 30 19:27:20 but doesn't when i press reset button.. Jan 30 19:28:12 any suggestions? Jan 30 19:28:34 what can i try? Jan 30 19:32:26 maybe depends that i've set on the nslu2 a static ip address? Jan 30 19:44:57 now that my slugos is back up and working It seems my mac address is all 00s.. what is easiest way to reset it? Jan 30 20:12:14 hoping can help someone, i've resetted it pressing reset button for 10seconds when nslu2 is up with his original firmware and then all gone ok.. Jan 30 23:00:09 anyone here? Jan 30 23:14:51 VoodooZ_: "no node address" means your redboot is missing your MAC address Jan 30 23:14:55 ho Jan 30 23:14:59 -h+y Jan 30 23:17:06 VoodooZ_: you should have reinserted your mac address into redboot before jtagging it, like the wiki says to. Jan 31 00:16:48 rwhitby: ok. so the default redboot uses a blank? or skips that region of the flash? Jan 31 00:17:42 VoodooZ_: what default redboot? Jan 31 00:18:44 oh, the one from linksys images? yes. the mac address is inserted during production. Jan 31 00:19:16 is that one of the skipped blocks in the FIS? Jan 31 00:19:45 I'm back to apex so I'll need to figure out the address and do it manually.. Jan 31 00:23:26 no, mac address is inside the redboot fis partition Jan 31 00:29:59 would you happen to remember the address? I didn't see it mentionned on the wiki.. Jan 31 00:32:08 0x3FFB0 Jan 31 00:34:53 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/BootFlash Jan 31 00:35:13 third link in the "RedBoot/Flash" area of the information pages ... Jan 31 00:38:11 ok. thanks. I'll add this to my log book... (it's about time I started one!) Jan 31 00:50:39 woot! I think I might have finally succeeded.. flashed an LE apex... now I need to figure out how to get a complete slug image for angstrom.. Jan 31 00:57:21 VoodooZ_: how did you build the LE apex? Jan 31 00:58:18 straight build and used the slugosle built cross compiler... used devio to swap the binary and voila! Strange as I tried similar things yesterday... Jan 31 00:58:50 I think the jtag tool was messing things up... so I flashed a proven BE apex and did some RAM tests instead.. Jan 31 00:59:40 How do I inherit that slugos-image to get angstrom to build me one? the sample local.conf is empty... unless I have to mess with angstrom itself? Jan 31 01:00:40 right now, I can only get the angstrom kernel to decompress... it stalls after... I need to either manually flash all the parts or get that slugos-image inheritance thing working.. Jan 31 01:05:10 pINHERIT += "nslu2-image" Jan 31 01:05:16 oops, remove the initial 'p' Jan 31 01:06:59 and that's in the local.conf under angstrom right? Jan 31 01:07:04 yep Jan 31 01:07:24 ok. thanks. I'm trying the manual way for now but I'll start a fresh build before going to bed.. Jan 31 01:07:40 03rwhitby * r7681 10optware/trunk/sources/optware-bootstrap/ (target-specific.mk vt4/ vt4/bootstrap.sh vt4/postinst): bootstrap for vt4, untested Jan 31 01:08:20 btw, I see the latest FIS dir has a "loader" block... I assume this is what use to be the ramdisk... is this where you store the second stage apex now? Jan 31 01:10:01 yep Jan 31 01:10:23 actually loader replaces kernel, kernel moves up Jan 31 01:10:39 (since redboot does not support FIS dir on nslu2) Jan 31 01:10:46 ah ok... good. Just trying to get situated as things have change quite a bit since 2006.. Jan 31 01:11:15 I noticed that the kernel block is now 0x120000 which is nice... Jan 31 01:11:33 slugimage adjusts it to whatever size the kernel you give it is Jan 31 01:11:43 nice... Jan 31 01:12:01 I like apex's fis driver... Jan 31 01:12:16 you will probably want to build a custom kernel to give you more rootfs space. you won't need the network or sata disk drivers ... Jan 31 01:12:56 yeah, definitely... will go custom later... but I have a robot competition in May so I need to rampup fast... Jan 31 01:13:23 I need gpsd which appears broken... It's a magellan type of thing (GPS nav robot) Jan 31 01:13:47 The extra FP boost will come in handy too. Jan 31 01:14:19 you rarely get something for free... on that side, the slug is a real joy... first the de-underclocking then this... sweet! Jan 31 01:15:04 btw, do you know what those two FIS skips are in the kernel fis entry? Jan 31 01:16:19 yes, first is for the kernel size header, and second is for the ramdisk size header Jan 31 01:16:34 (this is how the kernel can be bigger than 1MB) Jan 31 01:17:06 ramdisk? I thought we weren't using one anymore.. Jan 31 01:17:14 03bzhou * r7682 10optware/trunk/platforms/toolchain-vt4.mk: toolchain-vt4: copy libdl.so* to STAGING_LIB_DIR Jan 31 01:17:22 correct, but redboot still loads whatever those 16 bytes point to. Jan 31 01:18:19 ok. so should I just flash my kernel image to that block without worrying? Jan 31 01:18:42 I wonder what those skip affect in apex? copy function too? Jan 31 01:20:16 no, you can't flash your kernel to that block. apex will skip 16 bytes from the middle of your kernel. Jan 31 01:20:22 this is why we have the slugimage tool. Jan 31 01:20:43 ok.. I guess that's one good reason not to do it manually... Jan 31 01:21:22 Unless of course Idecide to override those skips and go linear as I use apex... Jan 31 01:22:48 so that means that the individual parts (kernel, jffs, etc..) in the deploy/images/ folder don't yet contain the skips.. Only once the full 8M image... Jan 31 01:24:10 correct. Jan 31 01:24:55 ok.. I'm finally on the same page as people in 2006! :) I made sure to enable my irssi log so I won't have to ask twice... Jan 31 01:24:55 you can't do anything manually on the nslu2 without risking problems due to all this stuff Jan 31 01:25:03 yes.. Jan 31 01:25:31 and even if I did I would mess up the ability to have a 1Meg+ kernel right? Jan 31 01:26:43 well, if you remove redboot and use apex as first stage loader, then you don't need the skips. Jan 31 01:27:12 03rwhitby * r7683 10optware/trunk/platforms/packages-vt4.mk: Enable vt4-optware-bootstrap Jan 31 01:27:14 ah.. that's what I was wondering.. Jan 31 01:27:57 so the > 1meg kernel thing wouldn't affect a pure apex setup? Jan 31 01:28:34 I'd have to figure out how to change the fis dir i gues... Jan 31 01:29:23 03bzhou * r7684 10optware/trunk/platforms/toolchain-vt4.mk: toolchain-vt4: copy symlinks of libdl*so* Jan 31 01:29:33 I'll start simple (too late!) and then I'll cleanup the historical stuff later for fun.. Jan 31 01:30:11 I'm no longer afraid now that I've brick the thing and came back.. I'm JTAG empowered now! :) Jan 31 01:35:27 with apex there are no constraints - you can make the partitions as large as you like. Jan 31 01:35:57 I would suggest you look into modifying slugimage to suit your needs. Jan 31 01:37:13 ok.. Jan 31 01:37:34 rebuilding angstromle-image with inherit thing... Jan 31 01:38:12 as for modding the fis dir: it's probably best done within linux right? Jan 31 01:38:31 But then again, slugimage could probably do it for me.. Jan 31 01:53:17 rwhitby: Should I be overriding the kernel command line in apex or just let the kernel use whatever...? Jan 31 01:56:11 kernel has no default now - you need to set it in the bootloader Jan 31 02:02:40 ok. that must still be valid right? root=/dev/mtdblock4 rw rootfstype=jffs2 mem=32M@0x00000000 init=/linuxrc noirqdebug console=ttyS0,115200n8 Jan 31 02:10:52 which package creates the fis directory that slugimage packages? Jan 31 02:16:23 slugimage creates the fis directory itself Jan 31 02:16:28 it's a perl script - have a read Jan 31 02:26:14 good I understand perl better than python... that's on my todo list.. Jan 31 02:27:08 I noticed that apex's default setup for the slug is outdated... I updated my .config to use the FIS entries instead of hard-coded address to avoid this int he future... (ex: fis://Kernel) Jan 31 02:27:17 I'll email the changes to Marc if they work... Jan 31 02:29:21 thanks to that I was able to reach the "Uncompressing Linux..." stage... but ends fails with "bad gzip magic numbers" for obvious reasons.. Jan 31 02:59:29 VoodooZ_: the default nslu setup is designed for stock firmware Jan 31 02:59:46 use either the slugos or debian setups from the nslu2-linux kernel svn repo **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 31 02:59:56 2008