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Jan 01 10:52:57 <BusError> so, to cross develop when using debian, I need a cross chain, and then what do I do : do I loop-mount the slug file-system and chroot to use the cross compiler ?
Jan 01 10:53:25 <BusError> also, the emdebian toolchains won't work on ubuntu (wrong dependencies) -- anyone managed to get them working ?
Jan 01 11:11:03 <BusError> scratchbox looks like a good option -- is it ?
Jan 01 12:01:58 <rwhitby> BusError: dunno, I don't cross develop for debian
Jan 01 13:33:53 <BusError> hmm anyone have problem cross compiling stuff with FD_ZERO and such ? here gcc tells me "impossible constrains in 'asm'"...
Jan 01 19:13:47 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9390 10optware/trunk/make/py-mercurial.mk: py-mercurial: 1.1.1 -> 1.1.2
Jan 01 19:35:33 <BusError> anyone using sb2/scratchbox2 for cross development ?
Jan 01 19:45:05 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9391 10optware/trunk/make/py-yaml.mk: py-yaml: 3.05 -> 3.08, (py24, py25) -> (py25, py26)
Jan 01 19:54:53 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9392 10optware/trunk/make/py-formencode.mk: py-formencode: 1.2 -> 1.2.1, py2[45] -> py2[456]
Jan 01 20:11:56 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9393 10optware/trunk/make/py-beaker.mk: py-beaker: 1.1.2 -> 1.1.3, py2[45] -> py2[456]
Jan 01 20:19:55 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9394 10optware/trunk/make/py-mako.mk: py-mako: 0.2.3 -> 0.2.4, py2[45] -> py2[456]
Jan 01 23:30:46 <BusError> ok I wasted the day trying to get a scratchbox 1 or 2 working for debian/slug cross building. didn't work
Jan 01 23:35:28 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9395 10optware/trunk/make/py-yaml.mk: py-yaml: corrected some typo
Jan 01 23:36:57 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9396 10optware/trunk/make/py-webpy.mk: web.py: 0.23 -> 0.31, py2[45] -> py2[56]
Jan 02 00:09:49 <mwester> BusError:  I'm not sure how specifically you are attached to Debian on the NSLU2, but I might suggest SlugOS if you wish to do cross dev. work.
Jan 02 00:12:36 <BusError> well, I tried openwrt and it was 'working' but quite bare. debian is easy to maintain (even in 2 years), thats my attachment to it :D
Jan 02 00:15:27 <mwester> Ok.  The cross-dev environment for SlugOS is one that we can help with here.  Can't help with any Debian toolchain/cross-dev issues, I'm afraid :(
Jan 02 00:17:20 <BusError> do you know where the debian/slug guys hang out ?
Jan 02 00:18:08 <mwester> Debian arm IRC channel -- not sure where that is (not on freenode); the wiki should mention that.
Jan 02 00:18:37 <mwester> Lots of debian/NSLU2 users here, just not the devs.
Jan 02 00:24:38 <mwester> but just so you know, SlugOS is rather more similar to Debian than it is to OpenWRT.
Jan 02 00:25:17 <BusError> found debian-arm on oftc...
Jan 02 00:25:38 <BusError> well, I've been trying a few distros already, I'll have a go at SlugOS at some point
Jan 02 00:30:18 <BusError> is slugos related to the optware packages ?
Jan 02 00:35:57 <mwester> BusError: only indirectly -- there is an optware feed that runs on SlugOS.  But SlugOS runs native packages as well, and has its own native feeds.
Jan 02 00:44:21 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9397 10optware/trunk/make/ (template-cvs.mk template.mk): template*.mk: use auto-variable $^ in -check target
Jan 02 00:44:22 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9398 10optware/trunk/make/ (4 files): py-paste*: added py26 subpackage
Jan 02 00:44:23 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9399 10optware/trunk/make/py-cheetah.mk: py-cheetah: added py26 subpackage
Jan 02 00:46:07 <eno> BusError: optware generates ipk's with prefix set to /opt, thus the name
Jan 02 00:46:26 <eno> it's mostly cross built
Jan 02 00:46:42 <eno> there're quite a few feeds
Jan 02 00:47:11 <eno> even a feed that you can run on debian
Jan 02 00:49:28 <BusError> I did a git-svn clone of optware earlier. 9000 revs, that took a while :D
Jan 02 00:49:51 <eno> that's a deep clone
Jan 02 00:50:10 <BusError> yeah, well I hadn't realized the size of the tree :F
Jan 02 00:50:59 <eno> for casual hacking, optware serves its purpose well
Jan 02 00:51:26 <eno> especially the cross build .mk file already exists
Jan 02 00:52:09 <eno> IMHO quite easy to learn and get started
Jan 02 00:52:52 <BusError> I managed to make some progress using sbrsh <- which incidently is quite handy a tool, especialy if you keep a root filesystem of your target on the host
Jan 02 00:53:39 <eno> yeah, scratchbox takes the guess work out of cross compilation, that's really good
Jan 02 00:53:48 <BusError> I'll try slugos this week-end. got two spare slugs anyway :D
Jan 02 01:51:38 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9400 10optware/trunk/make/py-rdiff-backup.mk: py-rdiff-backup: 1.2.3 -> 1.2.4
Jan 02 02:14:26 <CIA-6> 03bzhou * r9401 10optware/trunk/make/hdparm.mk: hdparm: 8.9 -> 9.6
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