**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 29 02:59:57 2009
Apr 29 05:24:36 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10009 10optware/trunk/make/cherokee.mk: cherokee: uclibc platforms stay at 0.99.11
Apr 29 05:51:24 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10010 10optware/trunk/ (make/pure-ftpd.mk sources/pure-ftpd/configure.patch): pure-ftpd: 1.0.21 -> 1.0.22, patch configure.ac now
Apr 29 06:46:18 <CIA-64> 03alllexx * r10011 10optware/trunk/make/clinkcc.mk: clinkcc: should be fine now. Note that it depends on iconv and also fails to build on cs05q1armel (and maybe some others) due to the gcc 3.4.[3-4] bug
Apr 29 06:51:52 <CIA-64> 03alllexx * r10012 10optware/trunk/make/clinkcc.mk: clinkcc: fixed a typo
Apr 29 07:19:58 * rwhitby gets OOM errors with Ubuntu installer, and therefore puts it in the "not working yet" pile.
Apr 29 10:02:44 * bizkut miau..
Apr 29 11:20:47 <CIA-64> 03alllexx * r10013 10optware/trunk/make/clinkcc.mk: clinkcc: apply fix for glibc targets only
Apr 29 13:08:24 * bizkut miau..
Apr 29 17:35:18 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10014 10optware/trunk/make/clinkcc.mk: clinkcc: fix to build on more platforms, but 13MB static lib seems excessive
Apr 29 17:37:33 <Deffie> any linux distribution for ppc coming with executables built for 2.6 < 2.6.18 ?
Apr 29 17:40:05 <eno> this requirement seems very particular
Apr 29 17:40:49 <eno> most linux distributions have moved to > 2.6.18
Apr 29 17:40:58 <eno> at least the latest one
Apr 29 17:41:49 <eno> i'm sure if you look for past distros, there might be one with 2.6 < 2.6.18
Apr 29 17:41:57 <eno> but why?
Apr 29 17:42:15 <ka6sox-work> Deffie,  what does YellowDog Linux have now?
Apr 29 17:42:23 <ka6sox-work> they were keeping up last time I checked.
Apr 29 17:43:24 <ka6sox-work> kernel v2.6.27 << YDL 6.1
Apr 29 17:43:45 <Deffie> wow thank you for attention
Apr 29 17:43:56 <Deffie> yup it is for a dreambox, a satellite receiver
Apr 29 17:44:06 <Deffie> very limited with just its software
Apr 29 17:44:19 <ka6sox-work> okay sounds good.
Apr 29 17:44:22 <ka6sox-work> have fun.
Apr 29 17:44:42 <Deffie> i tried to debootstrap debian but the nearest is 2.6.18 and still doesnt work
Apr 29 17:44:47 <Deffie> chroot says kernel too old :P
Apr 29 17:44:49 <eno> if you can rebuild kernel, you can build any version
Apr 29 17:44:55 <ka6sox-work> right.
Apr 29 17:45:07 <ka6sox-work> but you need a good toolchain which YDL has.
Apr 29 17:45:10 <Deffie> i think theres some problem with proprietary drivers
Apr 29 17:45:16 <Deffie> or not
Apr 29 17:45:18 <ka6sox-work> might be that issue.
Apr 29 17:45:20 <Deffie> dont know
Apr 29 17:45:38 <Deffie> going to try ydl :D
Apr 29 17:46:00 <ka6sox-work> enjoy
Apr 29 17:46:50 <eno> you might want to try building apps with the existing toolchain
Apr 29 17:47:06 <eno> try optware
Apr 29 17:48:29 <Deffie> i did something with optware
Apr 29 17:48:48 <eno> does hello-ipk work?
Apr 29 17:49:01 <Deffie> but for example i got problems with the existing toolchain and libxml2
Apr 29 17:49:22 <Deffie> they are not in the original toolchain
Apr 29 17:49:30 <Deffie> i built busybox too
Apr 29 17:49:43 <Deffie> using optware
Apr 29 17:49:53 <eno> toolchain should be minimal, should not include libxml2
Apr 29 17:50:17 <Deffie> should i build it inside optware ?
Apr 29 17:50:37 <eno> yes, make libxml2-ipk
Apr 29 17:50:39 <eno> problem?
Apr 29 17:51:32 <eno> so far on all the platforms i know, libxml2 builds okay
Apr 29 17:57:06 <Deffie> ok built but toolchain ld doesnt find it
Apr 29 18:01:41 <eno> you mean libxml2 ipk built, but for some other app, ld doesn't find it?
Apr 29 18:01:53 <Deffie> yup
Apr 29 18:02:31 <Deffie> i have libxml2 into builds and theres the directory structure from opt
Apr 29 18:02:51 <Deffie> but my ld is in toolchain/cdk/bin
Apr 29 18:03:00 <Deffie> and looks in toolchain/cdk/lib
Apr 29 18:03:27 <Deffie> i merely tried to copy libxml lib/ contents into toolchain/cdk/lib
Apr 29 18:03:36 <Deffie> but maybe its not the way :P
Apr 29 18:04:22 <eno> that's not the way
Apr 29 18:13:35 <eno> should use libxml2-stage to stage libs into optware/tuxbox/staging
Apr 29 18:14:36 <eno> there're quite a lot of example .mk files using libxml2
Apr 29 18:14:45 <eno> grep libxml2-stage make/*
Apr 29 18:37:33 <Deffie> thats a lot more politically correct :P
Apr 29 18:39:27 <eno> Deffie: the key is to setup optware/platforms/toolchain-tuxbox.mk correctly
Apr 29 18:39:54 <eno> so you can just type "make aria2-ipk" for example
Apr 29 18:40:16 <eno> and it will build all the dependencies, populate staging directories
Apr 29 18:40:27 <eno> and finally build aria2 ipk
Apr 29 18:40:32 <Deffie> yup but just in case bind doesnt have libxml2 in its deps
Apr 29 18:40:47 <Deffie> but it doesnt compile without libxml2
Apr 29 18:41:25 <eno> is it a new package you're working on, or existing package?
Apr 29 18:41:59 <eno> (does make/<the-package-you-want>.mk exists?
Apr 29 18:42:02 <eno> )
Apr 29 18:43:35 <eno> i'd suggest you 1) setup toolchain-tuxbox.mk 2) try some existing package that uses libxml2
Apr 29 18:44:18 <eno> this way you can re-use the optware infrastructure
Apr 29 18:46:18 <Deffie> bind, the dns server
Apr 29 18:47:10 <eno> in 9.5.0-P2, i don't see libxml2 as dependencies
Apr 29 18:47:37 <eno> for home LAN, i prefer dnsmasq
Apr 29 18:47:41 <Deffie> but compilation fails for libxml missing
Apr 29 18:47:55 <Deffie> nop i need just nsupdate
Apr 29 18:47:58 <eno> same version or newer version?
Apr 29 18:48:24 <Deffie> of ?
Apr 29 18:48:28 <eno> bind
Apr 29 18:48:54 <Deffie> to be sincere i got it from download site :P
Apr 29 18:49:16 <Deffie> because the one in the optware was failing for a double declaration in source
Apr 29 18:49:29 <Deffie> and the one downloaded did the same
Apr 29 18:49:34 <Deffie> so i corrected source
Apr 29 18:49:35 <Reedy> Oh, PPmarcel http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSDSlug
Apr 29 18:49:45 <Deffie> and it reached libxml dep
Apr 29 18:49:46 <Reedy> and netBSD http://www.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/faq.html
Apr 29 18:49:56 <Deffie> so maybe it is a problem I created
Apr 29 18:50:58 <eno> can you try configure --without-libxml2 ?
Apr 29 18:52:12 <eno> if you want libxml2, try --with-libxml2=$(STAGING_PREFIX)
Apr 29 18:54:07 <Deffie> thats nice
Apr 29 18:54:26 <Deffie> should i launch configure manually or i can pass the parameter to it thru make ?
Apr 29 18:59:10 <eno> try modifying make/bind.mk
Apr 29 18:59:16 <Deffie> wqorked
Apr 29 18:59:17 <Deffie> :)
Apr 29 18:59:55 <eno> i think optware/make/bind.mk should be more explicit
Apr 29 19:08:06 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10015 10optware/trunk/make/bind.mk: bind: explicit --without-libxml2
Apr 29 19:08:45 <Deffie> now a noob question
Apr 29 19:09:04 <Deffie> (like if the ones till now were EXPERT)
Apr 29 19:09:24 <Deffie> from what is provided the ipkg executable ?
Apr 29 19:10:00 <eno> i don't understand the question
Apr 29 19:10:24 <eno> okay, let me try, ipkg-opt.ipk provides /opt/bin/ipkg
Apr 29 19:10:34 <Deffie> oh wow
Apr 29 19:10:42 <Deffie> that was the question :)
Apr 29 19:11:02 <eno> so you can try "make ipkg-opt-ipk" to build it
Apr 29 19:11:21 <eno> but since you cannot install an ipk without an existing ipkg
Apr 29 19:11:49 <eno> often ppl just extract ipkg-opt*.ipk with tar
Apr 29 19:12:12 <eno> see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/HomePage
Apr 29 19:12:49 <eno> some firmware (like unslung) were built with an ipkg binary
Apr 29 19:13:03 <eno> k, bbl
Apr 29 19:16:30 <Deffie> i have to send you some wine :P
Apr 29 19:49:25 * bizkut miau..
Apr 29 20:19:51 * bizkut miau..
Apr 29 20:21:21 <Deffie> WOOF
Apr 29 20:25:23 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10016 10optware/trunk/make/py-bazaar-ng.mk: bzr: 1.13.1 -> 1.14
Apr 29 20:27:41 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10017 10optware/trunk/make/cherokee.mk: cherokee: revert to 0.99.11
Apr 29 20:28:23 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10018 10optware/trunk/make/py-mssql.mk: py-mssql: 1.0.1 -> 1.0.2
Apr 29 20:35:02 * bizkut miau..
Apr 30 02:08:03 <CIA-64> 03bzhou * r10019 10optware/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): unixodbc: 2.2.12 -> 2.2.14
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