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Sep 21 13:30:11 <VOID931> hello?
Sep 21 17:35:05 <ka6sox> hello VOID931 
Sep 21 19:42:43 <VOID931> hello
Sep 21 19:44:13 <VOID931> anyone aware that the ipkg system is down?
Sep 21 19:44:43 <ka6sox> VOID931, yup, I am aware...
Sep 21 19:45:19 <VOID931> I had a horrible night last night, I updated my mybook world and bam, no connectivity.
Sep 21 19:45:34 <ka6sox> trying to fix it...the stuff is old and support has dried up to a trickle...so buying things like HDs to replace failing ones and a bigger builder for all the arches we build for is tough.
Sep 21 19:45:46 <VOID931> and I couldn't access the data after it, so I did a full new hdd install
Sep 21 19:45:54 <ka6sox> unfortunatly I have no real good outlet to ask for donations.
Sep 21 19:45:58 <VOID931> now I am stuck without optware. lol
Sep 21 19:46:03 <ka6sox> so we just keep limping on.
Sep 21 19:46:28 <ka6sox> VOID931, if you can tell your friends who use Optware that we need support I would appreciate it.
Sep 21 19:47:17 <VOID931> I just started using it myself, I'll donate when I get a chance my mybook depends on it.
Sep 21 19:47:37 <VOID931> google has a nice cache, but doesn't work with the script.
Sep 21 19:47:49 <ka6sox> most of the forums would chase me out of there if I started asking for funds.
Sep 21 19:48:15 <VOID931> that makes no sense.
Sep 21 19:48:23 <VOID931> I also help out BSOD
Sep 21 19:48:33 <VOID931> Bastard Sons of Dialup
Sep 21 19:48:46 <ka6sox> while the software is "free" the hardware to make it and host it isn't
Sep 21 19:48:53 <VOID931> If we could afford the extra bandwidth I would say "put it here"
Sep 21 19:49:02 <VOID931> but we are on our last leg
Sep 21 19:49:14 <ka6sox> VOID931, we have BW a plenty...
Sep 21 19:49:33 <VOID931> it is the cash to pay for it
Sep 21 19:49:35 <VOID931> I know.
Sep 21 19:49:44 <ka6sox> but we need new HDs as the old ones are 3+yrs old of constant thrashing for building 42 targets.
Sep 21 19:50:17 <VOID931> it would have been nice to source out mirrors
Sep 21 19:50:31 <VOID931> I can't find a single mirror out there
Sep 21 19:50:36 <ka6sox> what we really need is a LARGE SSD to use for a scratch disk...
Sep 21 19:50:51 <ka6sox> and then we can stage everything there.
Sep 21 19:51:01 <ka6sox> source and all.
Sep 21 19:51:45 <ka6sox> thats $500 and we are done :D
Sep 21 19:51:52 <VOID931> this is horrible, maybe having the ipkg down people will realize how valuable it is.
Sep 21 19:52:04 * VOID931 looks in his pocket to find lint
Sep 21 19:52:12 <ka6sox> VOID931, mine too.
Sep 21 19:52:36 <VOID931> unemployed and pretty much doing odd jobs to survive.
Sep 21 19:52:36 <ka6sox> but, like I said...get enough $10 donations and it would help get us out of the Jam.
Sep 21 19:52:51 <ka6sox> VOID931, sorry to hear that...its a huge problem.
Sep 21 19:53:33 <VOID931> I'm going alright for being unemployed, I've seen people worse off.
Sep 21 19:54:22 <ka6sox> with a Family to support here I would not want to be unemployed.
Sep 21 19:54:46 <VOID931> I have a family to support
Sep 21 19:55:03 <ka6sox> ouch
Sep 21 19:55:16 <ka6sox> where are you? and what is your current field of work?
Sep 21 19:55:50 <VOID931> I live in Wisconsin and my field of work is whatever I can find. lol
Sep 21 19:55:58 <VOID931> I have years of IT but no paper to show it off.
Sep 21 19:56:37 <VOID931> right now I'm bringing money in by doing computer repair
Sep 21 19:56:38 <ka6sox> many years ago I started off in Telephone/Data/2-way radio and microwave.
Sep 21 19:56:44 <VOID931> for dirt cheap mind you
Sep 21 19:59:07 <VOID931> I wouldn't expect ipkg to be outdated
Sep 21 19:59:27 <VOID931> I saw some wdtv ikg files
Sep 21 20:03:56 <VOID931> I don't even know how to do this from scratch.
Sep 21 20:04:17 <ka6sox> well.its quite simple actually...even I can do it.
Sep 21 20:05:39 <ka6sox> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/HomePage
Sep 21 20:05:58 <ka6sox> download the makefile to a linux box in your home directory
Sep 21 20:06:04 <ka6sox> and follow the commands
Sep 21 20:06:22 <ka6sox> then you can easily add or upgrade makefiles for optware.
Sep 21 20:06:53 <VOID931> the feed is down...
Sep 21 20:06:59 <VOID931> and I don't have gcc
Sep 21 20:07:18 <ka6sox> it downloads the toolchains it needs.
Sep 21 20:07:31 <ka6sox> when the feed is back up it will work again.
Sep 21 20:07:44 <ka6sox> have to wait for some DNS propigation times.
Sep 21 20:08:36 <VOID931> the next couple times I get ahead I'll make sure to toss some at you.
Sep 21 20:08:44 <VOID931> well at nslu2
Sep 21 20:09:20 <VOID931> I'll make sure to tell people in BSOD to donate.
Sep 21 20:09:41 <VOID931> everyone else in there uses it a ton more then I do.
Sep 21 20:13:31 <ka6sox> much appreciated.
Sep 21 20:14:18 <ka6sox> I have an immediate goal of getting about $600 to buy a new HD, pay for domain charges and some other small things (like fans for the machine) etc.
Sep 21 20:15:09 <VOID931> where is it hosted?
Sep 21 20:15:26 <ka6sox> Oregon State University's OpenSource Lab
Sep 21 20:34:54 <VOID931> no idea when the feeds are coming back...
Sep 21 20:35:02 <VOID931> herp
Sep 21 20:35:04 <VOID931> derp
Sep 21 20:43:51 <ka6sox> as soon as DNS catches up.
Sep 21 20:43:57 <ka6sox> 4-48hrs.
Sep 21 20:44:03 <ka6sox> but I'd err on the 4hr side.
Sep 21 20:44:12 <ka6sox> it got fixed about 3hrs ago.
Sep 22 01:09:46 <VOID931> hmmm still not working here.
Sep 22 01:17:43 <VOID931> ka6sox: can you see this page? http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/
Sep 22 02:34:10 <ka6sox> yes
Sep 22 02:34:13 <ka6sox> I can see it
Sep 22 02:34:28 <{{VOID}}> well I had to use google dns
Sep 22 02:34:36 <{{VOID}}> it is up now, good thing I came here
Sep 22 02:35:09 <{{VOID}}> all the people that use ipkg in my little group are going to donate this week or they will get a good arm twisting.
Sep 22 02:35:51 <{{VOID}}> most can't afford much, but like I told them we owe it do the project.
Sep 22 02:36:04 <{{VOID}}> and we are sorta stuck in the same situation
Sep 22 02:36:21 <{{VOID}}> and it would be hippo-critical
Sep 22 02:37:18 <ka6sox> okay.
Sep 22 02:37:19 <ka6sox> thanks
Sep 22 02:37:37 <{{VOID}}> it's the least I can do for such a good project.
Sep 22 02:37:46 <ka6sox> this was a dns issue actually after I got it fixed on your end...dns didn't expire and look again :(
Sep 22 02:38:00 <ka6sox> much appreciated!
Sep 22 02:38:33 <{{VOID}}> honestly you should have another "blackout" I know plenty of people that use it.
Sep 22 02:38:47 <{{VOID}}> you should also put on the main page you need donations.
Sep 22 02:38:54 <ka6sox> ya, can do.
Sep 22 02:38:56 <{{VOID}}> and even a goal thing to the side.
Sep 22 02:39:10 <ka6sox> can do that too...just need a bit more time.
Sep 22 02:39:11 <{{VOID}}> just an idea
Sep 22 02:44:19 <ka6sox> tried to raise my cohort..not online yet tonight.
Sep 22 02:45:10 <{{VOID}}> so, what other things are you involved in?
Sep 22 02:46:09 <ka6sox> I run a FOSS project called nas-admin.org and we take care of infra for embedded linux projects 
Sep 22 02:46:33 <ka6sox> and also webos-internals.org and we work on the guts of the webos devices.
Sep 22 02:47:58 <{{VOID}}> so you are into embedded stuff huh?
Sep 22 02:50:08 <{{VOID}}> BSOD deals with a lot of hardware
Sep 22 02:50:20 <{{VOID}}> I'm the person they come to for most linux questions
Sep 22 02:50:33 <{{VOID}}> but when it comes to stuff like uboot I am lost lol
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