**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 14 23:59:56 2005 May 15 00:40:34 Morning, anyone here from opie ? May 15 01:17:29 ya May 15 01:50:03 morning all May 15 01:50:24 Morning RP May 15 01:51:33 morning May 15 01:52:31 Do you know already, that a MMC card's device file (mmcblkp1) is not created during boot up ? If bootet and removed / Replugged, the device is there ? May 15 01:57:07 uv1: I think its been mentioned. Its a rootfs problem, probably something to do with udev May 15 01:58:10 uv1: I discovered some potential issues with the data we report to apm - I had a bit of a go at cleaning up corgi_battery.c... May 15 01:59:09 Update your .bb file to use http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/corgi_power-r21.patch if you want to try it May 15 02:00:28 RP: So how can we come arround this problem (mmc). Is there a way to "eject" the card ? Trying the battery patch ... May 15 02:01:12 RP: BTW : The opie bug with the "battery critical" message reoccured. Strange ... May 15 02:01:18 uv1: I have no idea other than udev should be creating the device file upon bootup... May 15 02:01:31 "ejecting" the card would be a bad idea May 15 02:02:50 hi there May 15 02:03:08 RP: Sure, that would be dirty hack. How does the kernel recognize, that he has an mmc card available during bootup. May 15 02:03:44 Its not a kernel problem. Its udev related May 15 02:03:53 anybody a idea what kernelsourcetree i should use with my simpad? May 15 02:04:00 THe kernel knows the car is there, just the device node isn't created May 15 02:04:43 RP: But isnt the node created by modprobing the module ? May 15 02:05:09 uv1: mmc is built in under 2.6 May 15 02:05:27 And making it modular is not the solution May 15 02:05:27 opensimpad.org seems dead and the sourceforge project has only 2.4.19-rmk7-jpm2 in cvs May 15 02:06:57 roh: I'm afraid I know nothing about the simpad. Maybe the simpad kernel files in openembedded would give you a clue where the source is. (I have no idea which ones they are) May 15 02:08:11 RP: I assume, I have to exchange the corgi_power-r20 patch in the bb file ? May 15 02:08:27 uv1: correct May 15 02:08:35 RP: i found not even where oe hides its kerneltrees, or if it uses 'normal' trees from arm.linux.org.uk or has patches against vanilla... any clear , not outdated docs you can point me to? May 15 02:08:35 tries ... May 15 02:09:07 roh: look in packages/linux/*.bb May 15 02:09:37 RP: And bitbake -b kernel is sufficient ? May 15 02:10:32 uv1: You should probably bump the PR value in the .bb file so it will build a fresh kernel (or clean the kernel first) May 15 02:10:37 roh: http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/src/packages/linux?nav=index.html|src/. May 15 02:10:57 roh: There are at least two opensimpad kernels there May 15 02:11:02 yikes.. only avail via f****ing BK? May 15 02:11:57 roh: Go and find an outdated oe tarball if it bothers you... May 15 02:12:13 roh: No licence agreement is needed to use the web interface May 15 02:13:03 RP: but the webinterface does not give me usable sourcetrees....*sigh*.. i can only hope larry burns in hell for that ..*searching* May 15 02:14:13 roh: You can view the opensimpad bb file and see where it gets the sources from and which patches it applies... May 15 02:14:44 i search for the 2.6 tree May 15 02:16:08 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=5152871&forum_id=19500 has a bootlog of some 2.6.8-rc2 .. but i cannot find it anywhere ... http://www.beecon.de/projekte/SIMpadBT/index.html points in the direction of OE ... May 15 02:19:13 roh: It points to OE for the 2.4.25 kernel May 15 02:19:27 There is no 2.6 kernel here... May 15 02:20:53 Kernel flashed, booting ... May 15 02:22:14 seems i have to ask on the mailinglist May 15 02:22:35 i do not want to get my hands dirty on 2.4 ... too dead already May 15 02:22:57 RP: I saw a message during boot "Warning udev_root != /dev/". Is that maybe related to the mmc problem ? May 15 02:23:09 uv1: Its not May 15 02:23:50 RP: Can you lead me to the udev configuration ? Where to find, how it works and is configured ? May 15 02:28:03 uv1: I'd suggest typing udev into google May 15 02:28:14 I'll be back shortly May 15 02:38:47 I wonder, who maintains the udev .bb file. No Maintainer mentioned. May 15 02:39:55 no maintainers usually means all of us May 15 02:40:02 or "whoever looks at it" May 15 02:41:18 koen: RP mentioned, that not detecting the mmc card during boot maybe an udev problem. May 15 02:42:26 And I wonder why oz/2.6 ships a "makedev" script May 15 02:48:43 koen: makedev ? May 15 02:53:36 a script that makes some devs in /dev on boot May 15 02:58:26 koen: I assume its not necessary, if udev is used ? May 15 02:59:47 It shouldn't be May 15 03:02:53 good morning boys and girls May 15 03:03:49 us shipping makedev is a tribute to pb_ who insisted on roofs'es which both handle 2.4 _and_ 2.6 at the same time. given the recent developments of a) udev, b) hotplug c) pcmcia, i don't think we will further go that way. It's better to have seperate root file systems. May 15 03:04:14 hey mickeyl May 15 03:04:19 hi May 15 03:04:53 with finergrained image controls it shouldn't be necessary anymore May 15 03:05:23 roh: if you insist on working with the SIMpad proprietary bootloader I recommend getting older OE snapshots - there you will see how we called my SIMpad-utilities to get a serload-image May 15 03:06:00 MOrning mickeyl May 15 03:07:04 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3290 10openembedded/packages/module-init-tools/module-init-tools_3.2-pre4.bb: add module-init-tools 3.2-pre4 - this one is needed to get the new in kernel PCMCIA control working. can someone check if the soc patch is still necessary? May 15 03:07:06 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3289 10openembedded/packages/nonworking/screen/ (6 files in 4 dirs): screen -> nonworking. needs lots of patches to compile against recent userland headers May 15 03:08:07 mickeyl: the soc thing is hh.org specific, so I think it's still needed May 15 03:08:10 mickeyl: i can work with the new bootloader also.. no problem.. i have a SL4 here.. i already tried it (the precompiled binary) but since i couldn't find any state i wanted to be carefully since i do not own a jtag ;) May 15 03:08:20 till hh.org cvs get's converted to the platformbus May 15 03:08:39 koen: i see. the patch no longer applies, so it needs to be adjusted May 15 03:08:39 mickeyl: BTW the problem with the "battery critical" message is still existing, and not as I mentioned yesterday gone with the latest image. Is just occurs on a random bases. I am just wating for the next occurence and than try a opie restart. May 15 03:08:57 mickeyl: it's pb_ voodoo May 15 03:09:09 mickeyl: i do not want any opie or qpe at all. i just want a 2.6 kernel, working sound and fbdev to work on some directfb-gui on the simpad May 15 03:09:23 koen: ok, then lets pester him to adjust it. please remind me if i forget that May 15 03:09:29 will do May 15 03:10:06 roh: aha. if you want a 2.6 kernel, you're pretty much on your own. grab 2.6.11 and look out for zecke who has some things which are scheduled for inclusion upstream May 15 03:10:08 hmmm, my home connection is still down May 15 03:10:51 uv1: bummer. you could check if qtopia 2.1.1 has updates to the Power class May 15 03:11:02 more or less Opie's libqpe is a verbose copy of their old one May 15 03:12:18 mickeyl: 2.4 is just too deprecated to invest any worktime and since i need a fusion-device and have to build a custom kernel i just wanted to spare the worktime to build a gcc2.x crosscompiler since i already have a gcc3.4 cross May 15 03:12:57 mickeyl: I just was wondering, why it came up random. If it has something to do with -1% during charging, it could be easily fixed in power.cpp. Just set ps to 100, if charging and ps < 0 ;-) May 15 03:13:16 roh:you're working with directfb.bb? May 15 03:13:21 wrobbie: no May 15 03:13:55 wrobbie: or better... .bb?? May 15 03:14:16 roh:k - i had to hack that one to get it to work.. OE learning curve is steep :( May 15 03:14:36 roh: i agree. 2.6.11 is great. it's just that it doesn't handle all of the SIMpad peripheral devices. check with zecke for patches May 15 03:14:38 ive seen directfb evolving since it was just a few lines code... if you can explain to me what a .bb is? May 15 03:14:54 a build recipe May 15 03:14:56 a bitbake metadata file May 15 03:14:58 ah, a bitbake recipe May 15 03:15:05 mickeyl: i wrote a mail to the simpad-general already May 15 03:15:24 roh: good. lets hope you have more luck than me in communicating with the people on this list :D May 15 03:15:32 their a bunch of apathetic lurkers May 15 03:15:33 heh May 15 03:15:37 s/their/they're/ May 15 03:15:39 hrhr May 15 03:15:53 the one in packages/directfb is broken.. I added FusionSound.bb May 15 03:16:00 i tried #simpad first, but since nobody is there... May 15 03:16:18 and the docs are already in the state to be called bitrot May 15 03:16:50 yeah. it's safe to say all the guys of the original port are no longer interested May 15 03:16:55 your best bet is zecke and woglinde May 15 03:17:01 all others are just producing warm air May 15 03:17:02 wrobbie: to get real advantage from directfb you need a patched kernel to add the fusion-dev May 15 03:17:11 a simpad with some flashy EFL gui would be a nice gadget May 15 03:17:16 mickeyl: hehe.. i know woglinde personally.. is he still active? May 15 03:17:26 roh: that's a advantage? May 15 03:17:29 roh: yeah he is. just a bit busy with studies recently May 15 03:17:40 roh:I have single fullscreen app, no need for fusion May 15 03:18:04 (afaik :) May 15 03:18:27 I hope zecke doesn't commit the bb patches soon May 15 03:18:37 koen: the fusion-kernel device allows you to run multiple applications at the same time. its something like a ultra-fast message-passing helper.. so fast you can distribute a 'vsync now' irq in time into userspace May 15 03:18:38 I need an excuse to buy more ram for my laptop May 15 03:19:03 While I'm at it -- anyone know why my BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS are completely ignored? May 15 03:19:36 wrobbie: perhaps because local.conf is parsed at the very beginning May 15 03:19:47 use bitbake -D to see the parse order May 15 03:19:53 and then look at the .conf's if they use += or = May 15 03:19:58 bbl May 15 03:20:03 aha, ok May 15 03:20:58 Also, I don't understand why for some packages I have to specify RDEPENDS (for libstdc++6 for example), and for others I don't.. May 15 03:21:37 If the program doesn't link to it, OE won't pick it up as a deps via the shlibs code May 15 03:22:17 shlibs code? is that in a class file? May 15 03:22:19 things like fonts, themes, extra scripts, etc May 15 03:23:25 last one: scrolls up, cut, paste May 15 03:23:41 Hia! can anyone tell me how I would get my fb.modes file installed into the rootfs? I tried putting it into base-files/base-files/local/fb.modes May 15 03:23:53 it has to go in /etc May 15 03:24:52 ..and also additional files, such as a new user directory with .rc files, etc May 15 03:25:36 Use some sort of hook to copy stuff? May 15 03:26:29 you could make a seperate .bb out of it May 15 03:27:02 have a custom do_install() and a FILES_${PN}+="files/" May 15 03:27:51 ok.. do you know if there is an example .bb that does what I want? May 15 03:28:47 ehm May 15 03:28:55 not off hand May 15 03:28:57 why is the FILES_${PN}+="files/" required btw? May 15 03:36:41 nonono May 15 03:36:47 you install them by hand May 15 03:36:53 first you specify them May 15 03:36:57 SRC_URI = " ... May 15 03:37:03 file://myfile" May 15 03:37:08 then you install it in do_install() May 15 03:37:17 install -d ${D}wherever/ May 15 03:37:28 install -m 0655 ${WORKDIR}/myfile ${D}${sysconfdir] May 15 03:37:32 (which happens to be etc) May 15 03:37:34 finished May 15 03:37:55 perhaps you need to say FILES_${PN} += "${sysconfdir}", dunno if that's in the default FILES entry May 15 03:39:40 i recommend reading the bitbake manual and my presentation slides May 15 03:39:59 that should be a necessary precondition for all questions here, btw :) May 15 03:40:04 we should add that to the topic May 15 03:40:40 mmh May 15 03:43:56 thanks mickey May 15 03:44:16 i read the manual, but it's rather terse.. May 15 03:52:20 mickey|dishes: I think kergoth command this channel May 15 04:02:50 ya May 15 04:16:33 mickeyl: I would like to mirror the source packages on vanille.de (as discussed last Sunday) I have to dash off now but drop me an email to work out how best to do it. May 15 04:17:34 email neil at zyxt.org May 15 04:18:09 am i right in the assumption that 2.4.19-rmk7-jpm2 will not build with gcc-3.4.4 ? May 15 04:21:27 * koen curses libnet_1.1.2.1 May 15 04:23:26 nhorlock: ya, will do May 15 04:23:57 * mickeyl helps koen cursing libnet May 15 04:25:01 :) May 15 04:25:48 ../include/libnet.h:117:10: macro names must be identifiers May 15 04:26:22 roh: yes, that's correct. 2.4.19-rmk7 needs gcc 2.95.3 May 15 04:26:37 roh: if i were you i'd at least start with the latest 2.4 kernel in OE May 15 04:26:56 * CoreDump|home wished someone would finally fix the annoying "lpcre" compile bug in konqueror. *sigh* May 15 04:27:22 guess someone needs to do that who can reproduce the problem May 15 04:27:23 heh May 15 04:27:36 mickeyl: does that build with 3.4.4? May 15 04:27:42 I just have libpcre-dev installed on my host-system May 15 04:27:44 roh: i think it builds with 3.3 May 15 04:27:59 mh May 15 04:28:11 i do not want to build another crosscompiler May 15 04:28:16 takes ages everytime May 15 04:28:21 then you're out of options May 15 04:28:40 what binaryformat does that bootloader want? May 15 04:28:44 plain elf? May 15 04:28:48 no May 15 04:28:50 arnoldboot May 15 04:28:58 huh? May 15 04:29:03 koen: tried that. No luck w/ Debian SID May 15 04:29:05 hehe May 15 04:29:14 yes, i said that as well the first time i heard it May 15 04:29:28 see simpad-utilities/serload May 15 04:29:30 does the kernel compile to that directly or do i have to apply some vodoomagic with tools from the black box? May 15 04:29:37 voodomagic May 15 04:29:38 CoreDump|home: it works with sarge, but I don't build konq all too often May 15 04:30:07 mickeyl: ok... what bootloader should i use? or do they both use the same format? May 15 04:30:10 mickeyl: you were running out of goats, so you sold your pad? May 15 04:30:19 atm i have the 2.5.3 thingie loaded May 15 04:30:24 koen: more or less exactly that's what happened May 15 04:30:40 no, to be honest, the community sucked May 15 04:30:51 i got no help and didn't want to work alone May 15 04:30:53 so i sold it May 15 04:31:04 roh: SIEMENS bootloader needs serload format May 15 04:31:07 moin zecke May 15 04:31:12 hi zecke May 15 04:31:14 roh: handhelds.org bootldr takes plain jffs2 images May 15 04:31:17 servus holgi May 15 04:31:18 moin May 15 04:31:19 :D May 15 04:31:21 aargh, firewalk depends on libnet-1.1 May 15 04:31:25 hi zecke May 15 04:31:27 mickeyl: jffs2 for a kernel? May 15 04:31:32 RP ? May 15 04:31:39 roh: yes, bootldr rulez May 15 04:31:51 bootldr doesn't need a stinking extra partition for the kernel May 15 04:31:55 ~praise bootldr May 15 04:32:05 ibot ? May 15 04:32:10 All hail bootldr! May 15 04:32:13 mickeyl: i have to transfer everything via serial atm till i get my wlan up and running.. my only cable-bound cards are cardbus May 15 04:32:18 let's hope LAB will rock even more May 15 04:32:30 mickeyl: so how do i get my kernel in via serial then? May 15 04:32:55 read the bootldr manual May 15 04:33:00 zmodem or so May 15 04:33:18 zecke: mickeyl told me you are the one to bother about kernelpatches for 2.6 on simpad? May 15 04:33:43 roh: right May 15 04:34:19 mickeyl: yikes.. ok.. ill try to get 2.6 running (since thats easier with the old bootloader... just serload the 'vodoo-magic-worked-kernel') and switch to the new bootloader afterwards May 15 04:34:36 WTF my mailbox is full with Nazi spam... May 15 04:34:51 zecke: i wrote a mail to the list already.. can you give me pointers what the current state is and what is still a todo? May 15 04:35:04 * zecke opens the GMX spam filter May 15 04:35:10 zecke: that's normal. heise reported today May 15 04:35:21 roh: Joachim Steiger? May 15 04:35:27 zecke: ack May 15 04:36:15 roh: Fast review: MQ200 was reimplemented (with register dumps) and could need some more clean up May 15 04:36:40 roh: a version of mcp/ucb is in the kernel and touchscreen works (we've to wait which ucb1x00 code wins) May 15 04:36:51 am i right in the assumption that bootldr is started after some 'hardcoded' loader from siemens as 'second stage' or how is to explain that i could flash back from bootldr to 2.5.3? May 15 04:37:15 roh: We need to implement two keyboard drivers and heavily test suspend and resume May 15 04:37:15 zecke: thats cool for now... where to get the kernel and the patches? May 15 04:37:26 roh: it is in the hh.org 2.6 kernel tree May 15 04:37:48 roh: no if you've the bootldr it is the only firmware on this device May 15 04:37:54 zecke: uh.. how can i get it? i searched a few hours but found nothing May 15 04:38:21 zecke: that means bootldr speaks the same dialect like the old one when it comes to flashing via serload? May 15 04:39:35 roh: no serload only works with the old one May 15 04:39:50 zecke: but why could i flash back to 2.5.3 with serload then? May 15 04:39:56 roh: flashing with the new one either works with via CompactFlash Card or [x,y]modem May 15 04:40:09 roh: because you didn't have bootldr May 15 04:40:12 * koen moves on to thc-amap May 15 04:40:21 roh: but the alternate simpad bootloader? May 15 04:40:39 zecke: i had a bootloader with _a lot_ more options, jffs2 support and so on May 15 04:41:24 bootldr-simpad01/simpadboot was what i flashed... from a tarball i got from opensimpad.org/sourceforge May 15 04:41:58 dunno serload can't work with bootldr May 15 04:42:11 if it did there is only one conclusion May 15 04:43:00 kergoth: please add me ;) May 15 04:43:14 kergoth: I would like to import bitbake_qa May 15 04:43:35 add you to what? May 15 04:44:34 mickeyl: to the bitbake group May 15 04:44:39 hmm... kergoth told me he already did that days ago May 15 04:44:50 mickeyl: http://developer.berlios.de/project/memberlist.php?group_id=2701 May 15 04:45:01 d'oh May 15 04:45:05 ~lart kergoth May 15 04:45:05 * ibot forces kergoth to use Outlook Express May 15 04:45:17 hehe May 15 04:45:21 let me check if i can do it as well May 15 04:45:31 i doubt it though May 15 04:46:33 hmm no May 15 04:47:05 roh: I don't know much about opensimpad.org ;) May 15 04:47:36 roh: Only thing I remember is you load a special Siemens loader with serload into ram May 15 04:47:44 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=255764 explains what happened May 15 04:47:46 roh: oh wait you load a special bootldr into ram May 15 04:48:02 roh: and then flash a different bootldr into flash May 15 04:48:40 since i do not have any CF-adapter by hand now it seems i will have to wait with the bootloader-game May 15 04:49:01 roh: you can use ymodem as well May 15 04:49:24 zecke: but i do not want do do that multiple times and give adresses manually May 15 04:50:15 zecke: how can i get the hh.org-2.6-tree the easy way? May 15 04:50:48 bitbake -b handhelds-pxa-2.6 -c fetch May 15 04:51:08 what is bitbake? May 15 04:51:22 ~bitbake May 15 04:51:31 i thought it was only a build-tool for the opie-stuff May 15 04:51:38 i heard bitbake is a simple tool for the execution of tasks. It is derived from Portage, which is the package management system used by the Gentoo Linux distribution. It is most commonly used to build packages, and is used as the basis of the OpenEmbedded project. See http://developer.berlios.de/projects/bitbake/ and http://openembedded.org/. May 15 04:51:57 is there a debian package? May 15 04:52:32 *sigh* .. no wonder the developers are running away *duck* May 15 04:53:04 *yawn* May 15 04:53:15 sheesh, installing bitbake / OE is trivial with the help of this channel. Even for non-coders. May 15 04:53:25 roh: OE isn't a "open" project where open = opie May 15 04:55:26 CoreDump|home: thats not the issue... its just number #istoppedcounting in obscure and nonstandart helpertools .. most people want to do something and not start learning how to use 'yet another sourcecode management tool' first.... May 15 04:55:45 is 1.2 new enough or do i need the svn version from berlios? May 15 04:56:02 CoreDump|home: installation is trivial, but most people give up when some upstream source problem occurs May 15 04:56:21 roh: OE isn't 'yet another sourcecode management tool' May 15 04:56:36 upstream problems are bound to happen in a system w/ 2000+ packages :) May 15 04:56:38 koen: what is it then? i do not want anything besides the kerneltree May 15 04:56:45 no userland at all May 15 04:56:49 it's a build tool May 15 04:57:14 koen: what for? thats what makefiles are for May 15 04:57:31 koen: I'll be damned: NOTE: package konqueror-embedded-20030705: completed. Why the hell didn't that work in the past? :\ May 15 04:58:17 roh: a bitbake handhelds-pxa-2.6 will build a necessary stuff from scratch, inluding the toolchainh May 15 04:58:27 and it will package the kernel nice and granular May 15 04:58:33 CoreDump|home: black magic May 15 04:58:52 koen: i HAVE a toolchain May 15 04:58:53 roh: it's something like gentoo's portage May 15 04:59:00 yep May 15 04:59:13 koen: i do not WANT a fricking gentoo or another toolchain.. hell i only want SOURCE May 15 04:59:22 *yawn* May 15 04:59:30 roh: then go to handhelds.org and follow the links May 15 04:59:32 is that so hard to understand? May 15 04:59:56 go to handhelds.org and follow the links May 15 05:00:07 I don't see why you need help with that May 15 05:00:14 really guys... i am fully clear now why everybody runs away screaming May 15 05:00:22 step one: open browser May 15 05:00:35 step 2: type in "http://handhelds.org" May 15 05:00:51 step 3: click "sources" May 15 05:01:02 the rest is left as an exercise to the reader May 15 05:01:39 thanks.. that was the pointer i searched for the last 5 hours May 15 05:02:08 this *IS* a channel for OE/bitbake users/devs, so don't be surprised when that get's recommended all the time May 15 05:02:29 yeah, stop accusing us when you are looking for things which are clearly off topic May 15 05:02:29 (like #debian will pimp debian instead of redhat) May 15 05:02:32 * mickeyl shakes head May 15 05:03:08 looks like all those "security testing apps" have a buildsystem designed by a 3 year old May 15 05:04:24 koen|afk: i can understand that you want to make the USER experience pleasant.. and thats the reason you can find a million weird binary packages before running against code.. but as i said.. that was not what i was searching for May 15 05:07:17 roh: have fun compiling an arm kernel without toolchain May 15 05:07:58 zecke: as i said.. i have a toolchain May 15 05:08:39 thats what toolchain-source on debian is for. building toolchains May 15 05:09:01 roh: if that works for you, use that May 15 05:09:16 roh: but if you're so smart you will find the SOURCE yourself ;) May 15 05:11:03 zecke: the problem was not finding the source.. the problem was till now finding somebody who can say 'this three has the latest known patches' hh is not the only one holding some kernel-trees May 15 05:12:27 roh: whatever, I'm confident have said hh.org 2.6 kernel tree... anyway May 15 05:12:41 i know.. May 15 05:13:22 sorry if you understood me wrong.. i was searching mailing list archives, deprecated docs and similar stuff the last 6 hours and are somewhat done now i think ;) May 15 05:14:30 roh: one thing to keep in mind there is no SIMpad Community May 15 05:14:33 roh: just lurkers May 15 05:15:58 zecke: if there are just 2 other devels that really do stuff thats ok... i know the directfb-community.. there were no active coders for a few years now... only dok and andi May 15 05:24:12 zecke: so how do we proceed with updating bitbake now that you're in charge but lacking access May 15 05:24:13 ? May 15 05:24:32 it could take a while until kergoth is available again May 15 05:28:12 * mickeyl brews another cup of Minas Coffee May 15 05:33:20 mickeyl: go ahead May 15 05:33:24 * koen longs for some Java Gunung Blau coffee May 15 05:33:37 * CoreDump|home flashed a brand new shiny ROM w/ konq/e installed :) May 15 05:33:49 roh: say your not an ex-employee of Convergence May 15 05:33:55 *cough* not read only *cough* May 15 05:34:20 zecke: i would say I apply the patches you say are destined for '2' (refer to our discussion yesterday) May 15 05:34:35 Let's distribute readonly jffs2 images for users wanting "ROM"s May 15 05:34:55 koen: point taken May 15 05:35:06 koen: something we will definitly consider for our new distribution :) May 15 05:35:09 zecke: i am an ex-employee... but one that the company does not owe a dozend monthly wages May 15 05:35:10 no more ROMs May 15 05:35:12 CoreDump|home: it's all the fault of that stupid sharp May 15 05:35:39 zecke: did you have access to the mq200 manual? May 15 05:36:06 koen: re. our merger, lets choose three or four names at the end of this months and put up a poll @ oesf.org May 15 05:36:19 no May 15 05:36:47 do it on one of the distro sites, but not on oesf May 15 05:36:59 i was considering compiling a small read-only ROM which boots an root-fs image off an SD card. I failed at pivot_root :) May 15 05:37:02 roh: no Lineo JP had a µlinux driver May 15 05:37:07 you don't like the oesf forum ? May 15 05:37:18 not really May 15 05:37:23 it isn't an oe forum May 15 05:37:50 zecke: http://ftp.america.renesas.com/netshare/capp01/Platforms/Tahoe/MQ200/Manuals/MQ-200.pdf is what google just whispered in my ear May 15 05:37:56 I don't want our new distro to be associated with sharp or "ROM" cloners May 15 05:37:57 mickeyl: data_delegate.patch data_create_copy should be good May 15 05:38:12 213 pages... seems quite complete May 15 05:38:21 koen: yah, fair enough May 15 05:38:23 roh: We don't need it. We might need it if we start to do hw accell May 15 05:38:32 zecke: those two go without OE patches ? May 15 05:38:34 mickeyl: I think oz.org would be a good place May 15 05:38:44 zecke: thats what i want in the end. a fully accel directfb-driver May 15 05:38:44 koen: ya, we can do that May 15 05:38:53 mickeyl: no these already need the openembedded patch May 15 05:39:22 zecke: ah i see. so i apply all openembedded patches but only those two bitbake patches, right? May 15 05:39:22 roh: then just mmap the registers and implement the GC fifo in userspace May 15 05:39:28 mickeyl: yupp May 15 05:39:33 zecke: thats how directfb does it May 15 05:39:35 ok, i will test that now May 15 05:39:38 mickeyl: and then we test a bit, and do a release May 15 05:39:54 *nod* May 15 05:40:11 * zecke considers writing down the crappy Turing Machine May 15 05:40:54 * koen wants more http://thc.org/releases.php apps in OE May 15 05:41:46 go ahead May 15 05:41:52 i already added hydra months ago May 15 05:41:53 busy with it :) May 15 05:42:04 cool May 15 05:42:04 * koen removes hydra from his list May 15 05:42:37 mickeyl: would it be ok to move all thc apps under packages/thc/ ? May 15 05:42:41 like gnome? May 15 05:43:08 (I would like something similar for opie, gpe and kde) May 15 05:44:25 do it for thc May 15 05:44:30 i tend to group similar things as well May 15 05:44:34 see sdl for example May 15 05:44:41 however i know other people don't like it May 15 05:44:47 so in general, we should discuss that May 15 05:46:16 yeah May 15 05:46:41 03zecke 07 * r1.3292 10openembedded/packages/apt/ (apt-0.5.28.6/autofoo.patch apt_0.5.28.6.bb): May 15 05:46:42 APT: May 15 05:46:42 Catch the upstream version of apt May 15 05:47:06 patch-tracker, tinderbox, funky webfrontend for the tree statistics May 15 05:47:17 that's my OE wishlist May 15 05:47:22 (the short version) May 15 05:48:16 brb May 15 05:51:43 ok, now lets investigate why libopienet chokes on WE in 2.6.12-rc May 15 05:52:49 be back in a few hours, *if* cable is working at home May 15 05:54:02 good luck May 15 06:18:37 03zecke 07 * r1.3293 10openembedded/packages/apt/apt-0.5.28.6/autofoo.patch: May 15 06:18:37 APT: May 15 06:18:37 update the patch to actually wotk with 0.5.28.6 May 15 06:25:12 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3291.1.1 10openembedded/packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb: add wireless-tools 28-pre6, this version features busybox-like multicall to save space May 15 06:31:17 lart autofs for its crappy autoconf usage May 15 06:47:22 hmm May 15 06:47:34 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3295 10openembedded/packages/freedoom/freedoom_0.3.bb: Add freedoom, an opensource Doom2 .wad file for prboom and friends. May 15 06:47:34 i think guylhem lost the last bits of credits May 15 06:47:40 i won't help him again May 15 06:47:44 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12443&st=90 May 15 06:47:50 is quite a slap in our faces May 15 06:47:57 (last post, last section) May 15 06:49:23 what an ass May 15 06:49:38 lets continue using 2.4.0test2 on our simpad... May 15 06:51:51 What's new since last version : May 15 06:51:51 - added qtopia 1.5 interface May 15 06:53:47 mickey|coding: ask him to allow ext3 on the SD card ;) May 15 06:55:01 *shrug* May 15 06:55:07 yet another sharp rom cloner May 15 06:55:19 very sad May 15 06:55:22 he had potential May 15 06:55:53 mickey|coding: you shouldn't have answered May 15 06:55:57 i know May 15 06:56:01 I'm gonna start crying soon.. I have a new directory full of ipk files (a new version glibc), but I can't convince ipkg to install them.. How do I use ipkg in this case, anyone know? May 15 06:56:12 mickey|coding: If those people are not interested in Freedom let them die in slavery May 15 06:56:12 but i can't leave such a thing unanswered May 15 06:56:44 well you May 15 06:56:47 you're right May 15 06:56:53 i will ignore him May 15 06:56:57 * mickey|coding deletes his post May 15 06:58:32 * CoreDump|home feels the urge to "correct" the post May 15 06:59:39 mickey|coding: [deleted] looks much better May 15 06:59:47 ;) May 15 06:59:50 :) May 15 07:00:02 keeping a rootfilesystem in cvs... May 15 07:02:26 how is his nick? May 15 07:02:32 guyhlem? May 15 07:03:03 guylhem May 15 07:03:30 /ignore guyhlem /save May 15 07:03:41 :) May 15 07:05:15 * CoreDump|home runs a "du sources/ tmp" May 15 07:07:27 +mhentges@chroot01:~/OpenEmbedded >du sources/ tmp May 15 07:07:28 1,3G sources/ May 15 07:07:28 5,8G tmp May 15 07:07:47 7GBIf this guy can't spare 7GB then he has other problems May 15 07:08:27 my BSD slice is only 4gb May 15 07:10:25 which - of course - isn't OEs or OZs fault like this guy implicates May 15 07:11:55 CoreDump|home: he is right though that his SDK allows building applications May 15 07:12:04 CoreDump|home: without building a toolchain first May 15 07:12:09 did any one find the link? May 15 07:12:12 anyway... May 15 07:13:38 zecke: he's bound to use *some* toolchain. Having it built by OE is soooo much better than hacking up one from scratch. I'm getting the creeps when I think of the amount of work required to build opie before it used OE May 15 07:15:32 reply sent May 15 07:23:05 hi everybody, I have question relateted to WPA and hostAP May 15 07:24:04 I wanted to run WPA on OZ.5.3 with a DCF-660W, but no go. May 15 07:24:27 the ioctl for WPA are not accepted May 15 07:25:23 any Ideas??? May 15 07:25:31 sounds like you need a better version of hostap. May 15 07:27:06 I have version 0.3.7-r0 of hostap-modules installed. May 15 07:27:38 that should be fine. are you sure you used the correct options to the supplicant? May 15 07:41:00 I execute: 'wpa_supplicant -dd -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext' May 15 07:41:23 ah. well, that's no good. May 15 07:41:39 what led you to think that "-D wext" was appropriate for hostap? May 15 07:41:55 hey pb_ May 15 07:42:12 even when I try hostap i get follwing error: wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa: enabled=1 - not yet implemented May 15 07:42:12 you need "-D hostap" for that driver. May 15 07:42:40 well, that's very strange. I don't think it should be calling wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa if hostap is selected. May 15 07:42:48 koen: hello May 15 07:43:22 pb_: how are your trees coming along? May 15 07:43:32 here is the complete message: wpa_driver_hostap_set_wpa: enabled=1 May 15 07:43:32 ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM]: Operation not supported May 15 07:43:32 Failed to enable WPA in the driver. May 15 07:43:57 wpa_driver_hostap_set_wpa: enabled=0 May 15 07:43:57 ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM]: Operation not supported May 15 07:43:57 Failed to disable WPA in the driver. May 15 07:45:18 here the command I used: wpa_supplicant -d -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D hostap May 15 07:45:52 I vaguely remember something about wifi0o May 15 07:46:29 * koen googles for it May 15 07:48:53 with wifi0 I have get same errors. May 15 07:51:36 when calling iwconfig wifi0: I get follwing interesting message: "Warning: Driver for device wifi0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension, May 15 07:51:36 but has been compiled with version 16, therefore some driver features May 15 07:51:36 may not be available... May 15 07:56:12 the internet isn't liking me the past few days May 15 07:58:46 it seems it that the version of the wireless extension is to low May 15 08:00:30 or did you find anything else??? May 15 08:01:51 hm... usb-gadget does not like me... but what the heck ...*off* May 15 08:03:06 mmm.. diet chocolate milk May 15 08:07:05 is the bitbake svn trigger hooked up to cia? May 15 08:11:02 dunno May 15 08:13:03 amazing, my phone's battery level has been at 0% for the past half hour now May 15 08:14:46 bbl May 15 08:17:57 hrw|gone: ping May 15 08:23:52 morning May 15 10:00:08 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3291.2.1 10openembedded/packages/lbreakout/lbreakout2_2.6beta.bb: add lbreakout2, an award winning arcade game based on SDL May 15 10:00:30 breakout a brick out clone? May 15 10:01:01 * zecke needs to find food May 15 10:26:35 * RP is back for a short while May 15 10:36:55 hmm where is koen May 15 10:37:14 or someone else who wants to push all these bb May 15 10:37:25 it wont let me May 15 10:38:58 kergoth, i dont suppose you happen to be idling do ya? May 15 10:39:37 t:~/fabrication/openembedded$ bk push May 15 10:39:37 Push file://home/igor/fabrication/openembedded May 15 10:39:37 -> bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded May 15 10:39:37 ERROR-BAD CMD: push_part1 is disabled for this bkd using -x May 15 10:39:56 i tried changing a few things but to no avail May 15 10:48:17 that isnt a correct parent for push access. you need oe-devel@oe-devel.bkbits.net:openembedded May 15 10:48:40 which uses ssh, not the bk:// protocol May 15 10:52:43 well that explains a few things May 15 10:53:22 thnks May 15 10:54:09 so if its using ssh, the process is different now then? May 15 10:54:21 * emte is trying to find the dev setup page again May 15 10:56:47 hmm it behaves the same May 15 10:57:01 just gotta wait for the pull May 15 10:57:26 then koen will be happy May 15 11:00:53 blech back to the commenting from hell while i wait May 15 11:02:49 hm... how is the tool named which i use to repack a kernel to this vodoo-format 'ARNOLDBOOTBLOCK' May 15 11:10:06 roh: sf.net/projects/simpad May 15 11:10:21 roh: simpad-utilities (the tool is called genboot) May 15 11:10:41 roh: normally we call it through the simpad-flash-img script (actually we used to do it...) May 15 11:10:45 kergoth: hey May 15 11:10:58 zecke: whats your berlios username again? zecke123? May 15 11:11:22 hehe, didn't want to bother you, but yes zecke123 is correct May 15 11:12:13 k May 15 11:12:33 zecke: is it not in cvs? May 15 11:12:52 roh: it is not in the kernel tree May 15 11:13:06 roh: and with the hh.org bootldr it is not needed anymore May 15 11:13:32 i have a complete checkout of the sf.net/simpad cvs and cannot find a directory called simpad-utilities May 15 11:13:46 zecke: but that for i have to use z/xmodem... iek May 15 11:14:05 roh: or get a compact flash card May 15 11:14:16 or hack serload capabilities into bootldr May 15 11:14:18 AND a adaper... May 15 11:14:27 roh: yes and an adapter May 15 11:15:02 but look at the clock. its 20:15 on a sunday -> no open shops... do you really think i can wait till monday? ;) May 15 11:15:14 roh: monday? May 15 11:15:40 roh: http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/anno/packages/simpad-utilities/genboot-native.bb%401.9?nav=index.html|src/.|src/packages|src/packages/simpad-utilities|hist/packages/simpad-utilities/genboot-native.bb|diffs/packages/simpad-utilities/genboot-native.bb@1.9 May 15 11:15:48 support for a pcmcia-3CCE589EC wiuld help also May 15 11:15:56 http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/src/packages/simpad-utilities/genboot?nav=index.html|src/.|src/packages|src/packages/simpad-utilities May 15 11:16:17 zecke: ah.. not in the opensimpad-cvs? May 15 11:16:50 roh: this is just a copy May 15 11:18:28 damn I'm too nice today: http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/simpad/simpadtools-1.tgz May 15 11:18:59 found it in the time between... *sigh* .. why is it on downloads but not in cvs? May 15 11:19:17 dunno May 15 11:49:10 Dinhibit_libc -c /makena/build/tmp/work/gcc-cross-initial-3.4.3+csl-arm-20050416-r4/gcc/gcc/crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN \ May 15 11:49:10 | -o crtbegin.o May 15 11:49:10 | :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault May 15 11:49:25 is this something that should be reported as OE bug? May 15 11:52:23 no, thats your desktop's compiler that had an internal compiler error. May 15 11:54:15 is there something I can do to work around it? May 15 11:54:27 yes, find a compiler that works. May 15 11:54:37 see if your distro has an updated package May 15 11:55:24 hmm May 15 11:56:46 it's debian in a chroot May 15 11:57:10 let's see if I can get it to use 3.4 instead of 3.3 May 15 11:57:12 thanks May 15 11:59:57 morning kergoth May 15 12:20:53 5earch May 15 12:23:01 03zecke 07 * r1.3297 10openembedded/packages/brickout/brickout_2002.06.09.bb: May 15 12:23:01 Brickout: May 15 12:23:01 Catch the move of server May 15 12:23:06 03zecke 07 * r1.3293.1.1 10openembedded/packages/autofs/ (autofs_4.1.4.bb autofs-4.1.4/cross.patch): May 15 12:23:06 autofs: May 15 12:23:06 Upgrade to autofs 4.1.4 May 15 12:26:15 mickey|coding: where would I put these meta opieplayer packages? May 15 12:26:29 mickey|coding: in meta/ or into their opie-player directories May 15 12:31:58 Hmmm. Even doing something simple, I managed to break the power code :-( May 15 12:41:19 The problem is I've streamlined sharps code and it can't cope with that. It now goes too fast for it :) May 15 12:45:18 kergoth: ... May 15 12:46:35 zecke: done May 15 12:46:42 :} May 15 12:46:46 ah May 15 12:46:50 thank you May 15 12:47:01 mind If I check in bitbake_qa as well? May 15 12:47:43 thats fine with me May 15 12:56:52 pb_: dash_0.5.1_orig does not exist anymore May 15 12:57:30 This sharp power code is supposed to be able to interpolate the battery power percentage. I've never seen it work... May 15 13:00:12 03zecke 07 * r1.3299 10openembedded/packages/ (vectoroids/vectoroids_1.1.0.bb gemdropx/gemdropx_0.9.bb): May 15 13:00:12 Game Update: May 15 13:00:12 ftp.sonic.net does not hold the sourcecode anymore May 15 13:03:44 zecke: that's very sad May 15 13:07:01 03zecke 07 * r1.3300 10openembedded/packages/debianutils/ (debianutils.inc debianutils_2.8.4.bb debianutils_2.13.2.bb): May 15 13:07:01 DebianUtils: May 15 13:07:01 provide common implementation in debianutils.inc May 15 13:07:01 remove version 2.8.1 May 15 13:07:01 add version 2.13.2 May 15 13:09:58 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dash/dash_${PV}-3.diff.gz;patch=1 \ May 15 13:10:05 heh May 15 13:11:29 03zecke 07 * r1.3301 10openembedded/packages/dhcp/ (dhcp_3.0.2.bb dhcp_3.0.1.bb): May 15 13:11:29 DHCP: May 15 13:11:29 Update the version 3.0.1 SRC_URI May 15 13:11:29 Create a version 3.0.2 dhcp source May 15 13:11:59 pb_: 0.51_orig let me see which bbfile that was May 15 13:12:18 zecke: yah, that's in the same one May 15 13:12:47 evening May 15 13:12:57 I was just mildly amused that you have this URI to a very specific file with ${PV} stuck in the middle. May 15 13:13:22 dash 0.5.1.orig is missing May 15 13:13:27 hmm May 15 13:13:32 yeah, that's still very sad. May 15 13:13:53 was there a particular reason you mentioned it to me? May 15 13:15:02 pb_: Ah sorry, it is not sad because 0.5.2.orig foes exist May 15 13:15:09 heh May 15 13:15:28 pb_: I thought it was gnome dasher, and you're the godfather of the G packages ;) May 15 13:15:45 zecke: no, it's some crazy shell. May 15 13:16:33 yeah, I've been running bitbake_qa since mid-day :} May 15 13:17:00 looks like it was added by our man br1. May 15 13:17:11 zecke: aha. May 15 13:17:30 okay i forget May 15 13:17:47 what is a bb with a decent cvs example? May 15 13:20:54 emte: the opie ones? May 15 13:20:59 emte: actually all ;) May 15 13:21:51 no quite a few are extreamly cryptive May 15 13:22:06 binutils has an example i am looking for May 15 13:23:45 03zecke 07 * r1.3302 10openembedded/packages/dhcp-forwarder/ (dhcp-forwarder_0.7.bb dhcp-forwarder_0.6.bb): May 15 13:23:46 dhcp-forwarder: May 15 13:23:46 Update to new upstream location and introduce version 0.7 May 15 13:25:41 pb_: oh I don't know br1 May 15 13:25:59 emte: good you've found an example May 15 13:26:32 yeah cept its for redhat not sf May 15 13:26:51 wondering if the directory handling is different May 15 13:27:21 anoncvs@sources.redhat.com/cvs/glibc vs anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment May 15 13:27:30 03zecke 07 * r1.3303 10openembedded/packages/dash/dash_0.5.2.bb: May 15 13:27:30 dash: May 15 13:27:30 Update to new debian version May 15 13:28:34 zecke: ah, he's quite famous May 15 13:36:21 hi May 15 13:36:24 03zecke 07 * r1.3304 10openembedded/packages/dfb++/dfb++_0.9.22.bb: May 15 13:36:24 DFB++: May 15 13:36:24 Update Version and URL May 15 13:36:45 hey May 15 13:37:08 opie irc is much usable on husky then on collie May 15 13:37:27 s/much/much more May 15 13:40:09 *hack* May 15 13:40:59 * roh updates the bootldr from hh.org to contain the simpad-features and to compile with gcc3.4 *sigh* __FUNCTION__ macros do not work there anymore May 15 13:41:27 roh: that original bootldr won't work May 15 13:42:41 zecke: i already patched the changes from opensimpad.org into it May 15 13:42:41 cu May 15 13:43:47 roh: where was that? May 15 13:43:59 roh: could you give me the URL? May 15 13:44:15 roh: alternatively I can upload a version I've flashed recently May 15 13:46:01 one sec May 15 13:46:54 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/simpad/bootldr-simpad01.tar.bz2?download May 15 13:47:40 zecke: a 'known to be working right' binary would also be cool... since i have no jtag it would be risky elsewise May 15 13:52:15 roh: handhelds.org/~zecke/bootldr_simpad_tmp.tar.bz2 May 15 13:52:30 uploaded now May 15 13:53:06 * chouimat is away: stuff May 15 14:00:08 zecke: you testet that version on a sl4? May 15 14:01:27 roh: the code basis May 15 14:04:09 is the binary in bootldr.gz the compiled binary? May 15 14:04:39 dunno May 15 14:04:57 I don't know how recent it is though May 15 14:21:21 ah... i got it to compile with gcc-3.4 May 15 14:21:39 default: needs a ; if at end of function May 15 14:22:03 and bootldr.h needs this at the top: May 15 14:22:04 #define STRINGIZE2(x) #x May 15 14:22:05 #define STRINGIZE(x) STRINGIZE2(x) May 15 14:22:33 and __FUNCTION__ has to be wrapped in STRINGIZE(__FUNCTION__) May 15 14:22:45 at a few places May 15 14:23:25 zecke: Where is your bb patch at? May 15 14:23:57 treke|home: mailing list archive May 15 14:24:01 ah cool May 15 14:24:08 want to try out a kdepim image May 15 14:24:32 need to get some form of pim working on my zaurus before i give up and buy a palm May 15 14:25:18 hehe May 15 14:25:31 treke|home: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bitbake-dev/2005-May/thread.html May 15 14:27:02 * chouimat is back. May 15 14:27:21 what is the current ${DISTRO} of choice? May 15 14:27:58 treke|home: openzaurus-3.5.4 May 15 14:28:47 sweet May 15 14:28:51 haven't built anything in ages May 15 14:30:46 treke|home: I hope you will soon run either nightly builds or a tinderbox client May 15 14:32:54 morning treke May 15 14:33:30 zecke: it's on the todo list. Not really hight at this point, but on there May 15 14:33:57 zecke: should i send you a patch if it works? May 15 14:34:11 roh: yes May 15 14:34:29 blech 21 files up ... May 15 14:34:30 roh: the bootldr code is not in the hh.org tree because it contains mq200 code May 15 14:34:36 now how many to remove/change May 15 14:35:19 hopefull the cvs SRC_URI are correct May 15 14:36:30 zecke: is there any preferred way how to flash the bootloader? May 15 14:36:44 roh: from the siemens one? May 15 14:36:59 i currently have the patched siemens one... means 2.5.3 May 15 14:37:05 roh: compile a second bootldr (also a good test drive) May 15 14:37:25 roh: to start at some address in ram and load it with serload there May 15 14:37:44 roh: now if it runs you can load the right bootldr and flash it May 15 14:37:58 roh: doing it this way allows you to check if your binary runs at all May 15 14:39:54 zecke: hm.. do you have a specific adress in mind? May 15 14:40:38 roh: I get alway confused with numbers ;) May 15 14:41:51 0xc3400000 <- could be in ram May 15 14:42:01 roh: you need to link the bootldr so it starts in ram May 15 14:46:22 there is a makefile-target ram-bootldr May 15 14:46:41 that produces a binary also... but it does not load with serload May 15 14:47:57 i see serial download entered but then it does not load May 15 14:50:30 roh: sure it doesn't load with serload May 15 14:50:38 roh: you need to generate the arnold bootblock May 15 14:52:30 ah.. right... May 15 14:52:38 but wait.. i do not... May 15 14:53:03 i can load the precompiled bootloader which is arnold already and then load my ramloader after it May 15 14:53:13 if it works i can load the right one May 15 14:53:29 that sounds right as well May 15 14:53:56 roh: just make sure the start addresses are different May 15 14:55:05 if i just can fiddle out which script of these 10 is the right one to build a arnold May 15 14:55:19 the ones that call genboot May 15 14:58:20 can you help with a description? May 15 14:58:28 Usage: gen_boot [-d[n]][-w][-r][-x filename] exec_adr nseg base1 len1 [base len] May 15 14:59:28 roh: sorry no, I have not used it in a while May 15 15:01:33 *sigh* .. is there any documentation besides the source which does not really help? May 15 15:01:47 'write smart' 'reboot magic' May 15 15:01:55 'extra boot' May 15 15:10:35 besides the OpenEmbedded packages I already mentioned? no May 15 15:32:58 mh May 15 15:33:02 shit May 15 15:33:12 it does something.. but not what expected May 15 15:33:27 U3 May 15 15:33:28 @00000348 May 15 15:33:28 F04000000 May 15 15:33:28 *MTST May 15 15:33:28 00000001 May 15 15:33:59 the adress is counting up every line till 80000000 May 15 15:33:59 MBK2 May 15 15:34:33 then some adresses again till this ENDM May 15 15:34:33 STKP May 15 15:34:33 C19F3FF0 May 15 15:36:56 hmm May 15 15:38:13 boot.s output it seems.. memtest May 15 15:44:51 fsck... it happend May 15 15:45:05 that thingie flashed that and did not only run it from ram May 15 15:45:20 ouched May 15 15:45:29 do you live in Berlin? May 15 15:45:36 heh May 15 15:45:51 no.. but i'm there from time to time... and want to move back there in summer May 15 15:46:57 http://opensimpad.org/wiki/index.php/Docs/JTAGHowTo May 15 15:49:51 hm.. ive seen that.. but do not own a jtag-cable... how much are they? May 15 15:53:28 ah.. i see.. i could solder it myself.... ok then... May 15 15:53:45 i will report my progress then... *sigh* May 15 15:54:23 :} May 15 15:54:29 *sorry* May 15 15:54:40 .oO(REMEMBER: NEVER try to to touch a bootloader after 24 hours of smoking, reading and kicking against source that does not like you) May 15 15:55:15 roh: OT: is there any realworld application for DirectFB? May 15 15:55:18 but hey.. since i didn't do anything with the simpad its not like i lost something important i need for work... May 15 15:55:46 zecke: i have a set-top-box standing beneath my tv that uses directfb to display the gui May 15 15:57:14 there is a xorg/xfree port (which can be ran rootless) and the debian folks want to use it for their next-gen graphical installer (with gtk/gdk)... some commercial projects are also going on there i think. (smartphone stuff i read about in the ce-linux ml) May 15 15:58:51 besides that there are a few things that can use it... mplayer... i think xine also and some other apps... mythtv and so on... some gaming-libs May 15 16:01:22 the only thing i really miss on simpad is a real off-switch ;) May 15 16:01:41 anyways... going to bed now... i will account that experience under 'learning' May 15 16:09:18 better do May 15 16:09:25 I hope you've restored it soon May 15 16:09:46 03zecke123 * r155 10bitbake_qa/ (25 files in 10 dirs): May 15 16:09:46 bitbake testing utility: May 15 16:09:46 Initial check in of the bitbake QA alias bittest module. May 15 16:09:46 It is good at running tests with different configurations over a number May 15 16:09:46 of bbfiles and like bitbake highly configurable May 15 16:17:58 kergoth: all our fakeroot versions vanished May 15 16:20:45 03zecke 07 * r1.3304.1.1 10openembedded/packages/diffstat/diffstat_1.39.bb: May 15 16:20:45 diffstat: May 15 16:20:45 Update to an existing source package May 15 16:21:53 03zecke123 * r156 10bitbake_qa/classes/base.bbclass: May 15 16:21:53 base.bbclass: May 15 16:21:53 -Use less mirrors May 15 16:37:19 'night all May 15 16:39:48 03zecke 07 * r1.3307 10openembedded/packages/ (4 files in 3 dirs): May 15 16:39:48 dialog: May 15 16:39:48 Update to more modern dialog source-code, update the m4.patch, May 15 16:39:48 even after quilt uglified it... May 15 16:39:48 nite May 15 16:42:48 nite May 15 16:47:02 'night all May 15 16:49:14 roughly thirty more packages to fix source for May 15 16:49:24 * zecke cant wait for a tinderbox May 15 20:10:53 night May 15 22:24:24 * france is away: Away May 15 23:37:43 Morning all May 15 23:37:49 RP, are you there ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 15 23:59:57 2005