**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 31 23:59:56 2005 Jun 01 00:49:27 good morning all Jun 01 00:49:54 mog'n Jun 01 00:51:26 morning Jun 01 00:52:22 morning Jun 01 00:52:26 this can't be good, freshly baked gpe-image: Jan 1 00:03:50 c7x0 user.warn kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2 Jun 01 00:54:35 hey all Jun 01 00:55:50 03koen 07 * r1.3461 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: remove uboot dep for the time being Jun 01 01:01:06 zecke: pkg_pn[pn] = [priorities[p]] + pkg_pn[pn] Jun 01 01:02:21 priorities[p] is already an array. What you add in the pkg_pn is an array, and you end up with [[a],[b]]. Jun 01 01:02:44 That is why you have to get pkg_pn[pn][0] further. Jun 01 01:03:54 If the goal is to resort the pkg_pn according to the bb priority, you have to pkg_pn[pn] = priorities[p] + pkg_pn[pn] and then access it like pkg_pn[pn]. Jun 01 01:22:59 hello Jun 01 01:23:13 hello marcin Jun 01 01:23:15 g'day Jun 01 01:24:25 hi Paul Jun 01 01:25:27 hi hrw|work Jun 01 01:25:29 hey all Jun 01 01:37:27 hi all Jun 01 01:40:02 morning all Jun 01 01:40:50 i build glibc ,and get error: Jun 01 01:40:52 /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__dummy.o): In function `__dummy': Jun 01 01:40:53 | __dummy.o(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `__dummy' Jun 01 01:40:55 | /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__dummy.o)(.text+0x0): first defined here Jun 01 01:42:44 robert: 2.95 gcc with which glibc? Jun 01 01:42:54 hi ade|desk Jun 01 01:43:43 hrw|work:glibc-2.2.3 Jun 01 01:45:22 hrw|work:glibc-2.2.3 and glibc-linuxthreads-2.2.3 Jun 01 01:46:33 that problem is beyond my knowledge.. Jun 01 01:46:49 hrw|work: :( Jun 01 01:48:27 Could anyone give some advice? Jun 01 01:48:53 hrw|work: thanks Jun 01 01:51:56 morning Jun 01 01:52:41 morning Jun 01 01:53:13 mickeyl: See my comment for zecke. I suspect a bug. Jun 01 01:54:52 hi mickeyl Jun 01 01:55:16 my connectivity at home broke yesterday :/ Jun 01 01:55:59 mickeyl: scrool one hour back if you can Jun 01 01:56:24 too many cryptic things Jun 01 01:56:31 need more coffee before being able to look at that Jun 01 01:56:56 ;) Jun 01 01:58:36 looking at that "/media/ram" thread I think that we really should unite to ELD (or HTDIWBC (How This Distro Is/Will Be Called)) Jun 01 02:02:59 hi mickeyl Jun 01 02:03:08 mithro: morning Jun 01 02:03:11 ~lart tab Jun 01 02:03:11 * ibot takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays tab in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed Jun 01 02:04:32 morning ade|desk, mickeyl, XorA, mithro Jun 01 02:05:17 hrw|work: FULL ACK. We should palaver with koen asap to pick three naming suggestions Jun 01 02:05:43 fam 0.9.0 and oz 3.5.4 will perhaps be the last split releases then Jun 01 02:05:49 s/perhaps/hopefully/ Jun 01 02:06:36 mickeyl: when 3.5.4 planned? Jun 01 02:07:13 hrw|work: mid-july Jun 01 02:07:19 imo Jun 01 02:07:26 RFC Jun 01 02:07:40 0726 ;) Jun 01 02:08:37 but serious - 9-17 holidays, 23-24 busy (weeding (not mine)) Jun 01 02:12:59 you plan your gardening that strictly ?? Jun 01 02:13:41 ? Jun 01 02:13:44 i tend to do mine as and when needed Jun 01 02:14:08 (10:09:29) hrw|work: but serious - 9-17 holidays, 23-24 busy (weeding (not mine)) Jun 01 02:14:16 weeding ? Jun 01 02:14:20 ops.. Jun 01 02:14:22 wrong word Jun 01 02:14:24 weeding or wedding? Jun 01 02:14:27 weddig perhaps ;) Jun 01 02:14:32 wedding ;) Jun 01 02:14:35 lol Jun 01 02:14:40 :) :) Jun 01 02:14:54 that way I learnt new eng word Jun 01 02:15:14 ;)) Jun 01 02:15:35 weeding : to remove unwanted plants Jun 01 02:15:46 ade|desk: found in vocabulary Jun 01 02:16:06 funny Jun 01 02:16:17 weed -> chwast, wymoczek, cherlak or pieliæ Jun 01 02:19:32 morning all Jun 01 02:19:41 hi rp Jun 01 02:23:07 * RP wonders why I'm up this "early"... Jun 01 02:23:38 early is relative Jun 01 02:24:18 mickeyl: yes, it depends on the amount of sleep you've had in the last few days :) Jun 01 02:24:50 In my case the answer would be not enough yet I couldn't sleep much more this morning :-/ Jun 01 02:25:38 Whilst I've been away has kergoth got annoyed with a user by any chance? Jun 01 02:25:48 hi rp Jun 01 02:26:08 hi bluelightning Jun 01 02:29:20 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3462 10openembedded/packages/base-files/ (6 files in 6 dirs): add /media/ram as ramdisk on Zaurus and SIMpad machines Jun 01 02:40:50 morning Jun 01 02:41:26 hi reenoo_ Jun 01 02:41:49 hey mickeyl Jun 01 02:43:25 hi reenoo_ Jun 01 02:45:06 hi Rene Jun 01 02:45:11 hi Arjan Jun 01 02:45:31 hi hrw|work Jun 01 02:45:52 When I do: "bitbake opie-image", it builds fine and gives a rootfs. How can I add additional packages to that rootfs, like a mailclient for instance? Can I somewhere edit a file and add certain packages to it? Jun 01 02:45:53 reenoo_: /media/ram is in the fstabs now. Jun 01 02:46:15 mickeyl: ah, cool. good news for GPE users :) Jun 01 02:46:16 hi reenoo_ Jun 01 02:46:34 reenoo_: I had no problems with this change just with the method of introducing it :) Jun 01 02:46:52 hey RP, hrw|work, bluelightning Jun 01 02:47:03 reenoo_: and of course it had to be made not only on c7x0, but on all zaurus and simpad models except the collie Jun 01 02:47:15 mickeyl: ah. very good. I misinterpreted that a bit then. sorry. Jun 01 02:47:43 reenoo_: np. now lets make koen calm down and we are happy together again ;) Jun 01 02:48:15 good morning pb_ Jun 01 02:48:16 mickeyl: sounds like a plan ;) Jun 01 02:48:19 hey pb_ Jun 01 02:49:49 mickeyl: good morning! Jun 01 02:49:57 reenoo_: good morning! Jun 01 02:51:46 morning pb_ Jun 01 02:51:54 hi pb_ Jun 01 02:52:26 hi proti Jun 01 02:52:28 hi bluelightning Jun 01 02:56:47 pb_: any ideas on that ipkg/kernel modules issue btw? Jun 01 02:59:31 reenoo_: which issue was that? Jun 01 02:59:54 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51 Jun 01 03:00:05 pb_: leaves me a bit clueless... Jun 01 03:04:38 reenoo_: multiple providers, maybe Jun 01 03:09:11 hey Jun 01 03:09:23 hoi Jun 01 03:09:38 hey zecke Jun 01 03:09:44 bah SUN Ultras SUCK Jun 01 03:10:30 pb_: hmm. I have both -hh37.4 and -hh40 packages in deploy/ipk. would that cause ipkg to fail? Jun 01 03:10:34 hi zecke. Jun 01 03:11:01 hi zecke Jun 01 03:11:03 proti: your patch did not work pkg_pn is highly overloaded... Jun 01 03:11:23 proti: it was a good idea to use it like a one dimensional array... Jun 01 03:11:43 bluelightning: how are you? Jun 01 03:11:57 zecke: pretty good, yourself? Jun 01 03:12:05 bluelightning: quite ok Jun 01 03:12:13 cool Jun 01 03:12:36 haven't had much time to work on handhelds stuff lately... I must make more time :/ Jun 01 03:12:53 reenoo_: yes Jun 01 03:13:09 hi zecke Jun 01 03:14:53 pb_: ah, ok. how do we fix that then? ipkg-make-index won't move -hh37.4 packages to the morgue since they are different packages. you'd have to manually remove old kernel packages on every version bump Jun 01 03:15:14 zecke: If think there is a problem with pkg_pn. It is supposed to be an array holding the file path of each bb providing the pn function. Jun 01 03:15:21 Am I correct ? Jun 01 03:16:12 proti: not with in that method, admitingly I don"t know the reasoning behind the file set Jun 01 03:16:39 anyway your patch did not work as you iterated over a string Jun 01 03:17:02 zecke: It was the problem I mentionned in my first mail. Jun 01 03:17:22 take pkg_pn[pn] not pkg_pn[pn][0] Jun 01 03:18:21 proti: you show your lack of understanding, and the lack of testing your code... Jun 01 03:18:48 zecke: I did test my patch. the two output of bitbake were identical. Jun 01 03:18:53 bitbake -s Jun 01 03:19:22 key error: / Jun 01 03:19:35 I maybe broke on my patch (I don't know how, i'll check); Jun 01 03:21:02 er guys... why is svn up on bitbake asking me for mickeyls password Jun 01 03:21:22 er: because you're using my tarball Jun 01 03:21:27 heh Jun 01 03:21:31 s/er/Spyro/ Jun 01 03:21:34 Fix is in the patch : Jun 01 03:21:35 - # get highest priority file set Jun 01 03:21:35 - files = pkg_pn[pn][0] Jun 01 03:21:38 haha lol, yeah I forgot about that :) Jun 01 03:21:48 + # get highest priority file set Jun 01 03:21:49 + files = pkg_pn[pn] Jun 01 03:22:30 This patch fix the key error '/' I had previously. Jun 01 03:22:40 It was in the patch I sent. Jun 01 03:23:13 bbl lunch Jun 01 03:23:56 proti: check what I've commited yesterday and feel free to send patches to simplify it even more Jun 01 03:24:26 zecke: I will. Jun 01 03:26:42 proti: smakelijk eate Jun 01 03:27:18 bon appetit Jun 01 03:27:20 zecke: is that a try at some dutch I see there? Jun 01 03:29:01 smacznego proti Jun 01 03:29:16 proti: if it looks like dutch it might be dutch Jun 01 03:29:44 ick heb ein grote rote cat :) Jun 01 03:30:42 zecke: it looks like it, but 'we' don't have no 'eate' (phonetially close tho), 'eten' is what you where looking for I guess..... and the cat thing... well, let's just say... ehrm. Jun 01 03:31:46 Hertog: I would say I can understand spoken dutch reasonable well (hmm well) Jun 01 03:31:58 but writing is... yeah difficult Jun 01 03:33:23 zecke: same here for me and german. can't write it if my life depended on it, can't speak it (I keep mixing up those ich mir mich du der dich, sie, ihnen sie and the two gazillion variations on it) but I can understand it :) Jun 01 03:34:49 I sometimes understand russian Jun 01 03:34:53 smacznego mickeyl Jun 01 03:34:56 Hertog: coooooooooooola :) Jun 01 03:35:04 tukkers :) Jun 01 03:35:04 * XorA barely manages english, let alone any other language Jun 01 03:35:14 reenoo_lunch: yeah, it's a little bit unsatisfactory. I'm not quite sure what to do about it, yet. Jun 01 03:35:22 mickey|lunch: http://wiki.python.org/moin/RestrictedExecution Jun 01 03:35:34 mickey|lunch: I"m currently considering doing that Jun 01 03:38:20 koen: vritn zoepn en over de proem heen kroepn Jun 01 03:38:31 :) Jun 01 03:42:48 mickey|lunch: do you want to be my OpenEmbedded mentor for google? Jun 01 03:43:34 cya later Jun 01 03:49:25 mickey|lunch: you here? Jun 01 03:50:07 in opie-collections.inc, there's a OPIE_DEPENDS_24 and a OPIE_RDEPENDS_24, how can I tell bitbake to build the apps listed in that var as well? Jun 01 03:50:33 That has something to do with the root_flash_size, right? Jun 01 03:50:42 correct Jun 01 03:50:54 03reenoo 07 * r1.3459.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gtk-webcore/osb-browser_20050430.bb: gtk-webcore: add a couple of gdk pixbuf loaders to RRECOMMENDS for osb-browser. Jun 01 03:50:59 hm, where do I define "ROOT_FLASH_SIZE", bitbake.conf? Jun 01 03:51:08 MACHINE.conf Jun 01 03:51:16 eh, yes, ofcourse. Jun 01 03:55:45 Hm, editting that file is normally not done, right? Jun 01 03:55:55 Can't it be specified in local.conf ? Jun 01 03:58:48 zecke: that google program looks nice Jun 01 04:01:12 need to find a mentor :) Jun 01 04:01:38 who wants to tutor me? Jun 01 04:06:43 zecke: you prefer openembedded or bitbake? Jun 01 04:07:16 hrw|work: or something else, Linux SandBoxing :} Jun 01 04:07:30 hrw|work: but OE would be good, probably implementation of USE Jun 01 04:07:40 hrw|work: or including OpenBSD/NetBSD in OE Jun 01 04:07:53 or porting Solaris10 to ARM :} Jun 01 04:07:55 how to dig a hole in sandbox using linux powered PDA Jun 01 04:08:14 * koen looks at the "cryptoloop" item on his todo Jun 01 04:08:15 hehe, empirial study? Jun 01 04:08:33 empirical? not Jun 01 04:08:51 hrw|work: yupp epiricial... Jun 01 04:08:55 damn Jun 01 04:08:59 there was a joke about childs digging in sandbox using cellphones Jun 01 04:09:16 now they can use smartphones Jun 01 04:09:21 yep Jun 01 04:09:24 http://ds.ccc.de/081/byebye512bit <- good read (sorry for the german) Jun 01 04:11:15 anyway my mentor gets 500$ (if our plot gets accepted) Jun 01 04:11:30 few rich children dig holes in sandbox using phones. one child's phone broke.. rest laughs at him so he answer "tomorrow my father will buy me better, newer one!" and they replied "yeah, we know - but until that you will have to use spatula like normal childs :))" Jun 01 04:13:22 hehe Jun 01 04:13:38 problems of the polish youth :) Jun 01 04:14:15 original was about russian Jun 01 04:14:35 that actually makes sense Jun 01 04:14:49 replace spetula with hand in that case Jun 01 04:40:52 can do_foo handle overrides too? Jun 01 04:41:10 koen: sure the method is just as a key Jun 01 04:41:10 like do_foo_osk5192 Jun 01 04:41:22 and addtask too? Jun 01 04:41:24 koen: someone even documented it in bitbake.conf ;) Jun 01 04:41:40 addtask is a keyword AFAIK Jun 01 04:41:45 the linux-omap1 kernel is a bit too osk specific Jun 01 04:45:52 mickey|lunch: you here? Jun 01 04:53:02 ibot: test Jun 01 04:53:17 Test Failed! Jun 01 04:53:26 anyway the net will soon be down Jun 01 04:55:49 yesterday I got bnep0 disconnected 3-4 times during 2h Jun 01 05:05:50 y0 Jun 01 05:06:00 sorry, wrong window Jun 01 05:06:03 oY XorA Jun 01 05:21:44 Another patch. I hope this one is the last for this problem. Jun 01 05:40:36 pb_: I figured out my problem with autotools_stage_includes() Jun 01 05:40:53 pb_: it is autotools_stage_includes, not autotools_stage_includes() :) Jun 01 05:58:06 what do you vote? Jun 01 05:59:44 mickeyl: you guys didn't get a vote, right? Jun 01 06:00:14 pb_: if you mean EU constitution, then no :/ Jun 01 06:00:34 its a good idea or not ?# Jun 01 06:00:50 yah, the constitution. I imagine that's what koen has gone to vote on. Jun 01 06:00:54 i think it's a good idea. Jun 01 06:00:59 apparantly the french don't Jun 01 06:01:12 so it seems Jun 01 06:01:19 will we bother in voting here ? Jun 01 06:01:34 here == uk Jun 01 06:01:38 depends what the Dutch come up with, I suspect. Jun 01 06:01:41 in general it's a good idea, yes, but not in its current form Jun 01 06:02:21 as long as we can keep the pound and the channel between us and the french .. i'm happy ;) Jun 01 06:02:30 I must admit I don't really know what the constitution says. I started reading the document this morning but I haven't got very far with it yet Jun 01 06:02:44 I did vote sunday. I guess my vote wasn't enough. Jun 01 06:02:49 300 pages of lawyer speak ? Jun 01 06:03:16 Have a look ade, you can walk in london without meeting french people. Jun 01 06:04:25 can't Jun 01 06:10:14 I will wait until it will be translated into Polish and then start reading with original somewhere (many EU docs are bad translated) Jun 01 06:11:12 proti: i know .. very upsetting :( Jun 01 06:16:01 our prime minister kept saying "vote yes!" Jun 01 06:16:22 at the votingbooth: "For | Against" Jun 01 06:17:23 can someone find "yes" in there? Jun 01 06:17:27 heh Jun 01 06:17:33 that was a call to vote no Jun 01 06:17:44 or "Against" for that matter Jun 01 06:18:20 yep Jun 01 06:20:05 the whole politics behaving like children about voting 'yes' would almost be reason enough to vote against... Jun 01 06:21:42 almost... Jun 01 06:23:54 I don't understand one thing... almost all calls for referenda in the Netherlands have been redirected to /dev/null, and when it comes to something as important as this, they (almost all) wanted it sooo badly Jun 01 06:25:27 that's strange indeed. what I don't get is why they are being so obscure with information... they definitely did piss off the Dutch with that Jun 01 06:25:29 I especially liked the commercial with the holocaust and srebrenica footage. "vote yes, or else...." Jun 01 06:25:48 that was distastefull beyond words Jun 01 06:26:16 indeed, the threats about a WWIII, economic disasters and the holocaust were disgusting Jun 01 06:26:41 and "accidentaly" airing that commercial Jun 01 06:27:30 just as discusting as this Wilders dude, playing on underbelly feelings of the Turks getting into Europe or not. Has nothing to do with this referendum Jun 01 06:29:10 * XorA is puzzled by the whole "europe" thing Jun 01 06:29:14 mickeyl: I did the patch. One odd thing I found. bibake -s shows no packages with lastest != prefered. Is this thing working or what ? Jun 01 06:29:27 XorA: so is everyone living in it :) Jun 01 06:29:50 Hertog: we want a united europe where everyone rules themselves, makes my head ache Jun 01 06:30:17 proti: that depends on your setting. when you don't have PREFERRED_VERSION set, then (of course) preferred will always be the latest Jun 01 06:30:41 proti: fwiw, i have seen packages where latest != preferred Jun 01 06:30:57 XorA: indeed. also bad timing. don't do this kind of stuff when there's an economic downturn going on Jun 01 06:31:25 proti: your email is annoying... Jun 01 06:31:54 zecke: Why? Jun 01 06:32:35 mickeyl: pkg_pn is a reference right? Jun 01 06:32:43 yeah Jun 01 06:33:14 be careful when doing something like pkg_pn = self.status.pkg_pn Jun 01 06:33:21 you're _not_ copying Jun 01 06:33:53 i have written that on my forehead, because as C/C++ programmer you get used to assignments being copy operations Jun 01 06:34:58 mickeyl: when changing to self.status.pkg_pn I was aware of the reference Jun 01 06:35:28 mickeyl: yesterday (as can be seen in the channel logs) I found it dangerous as well to manipulate pkg_pn that way Jun 01 06:35:53 mickeyl: as can be seen in the commit message as well... Jun 01 06:36:19 proti: sorry, I try to behave better but it is weird to get by mail what I've said Jun 01 06:42:09 zecke: I didn't get everything that happened and why you were upset. I wanted to clarify the issue. Jun 01 06:42:41 Hm, konqueror is broken in OE atm. Jun 01 06:42:44 | make[5]: *** No rule to make target `-lpcre', needed by `konqueror'. Stop. Jun 01 06:42:56 ascent: install pcre on host Jun 01 06:42:59 (that's with konqueror-embedded-20030705-r3) Jun 01 06:43:11 oh hm.. Jun 01 06:43:15 zecke: so tell me, is it a bug or not ? Jun 01 06:43:22 I thought it needed pcre as pkg somehow.. :) Jun 01 06:43:24 let's see. Jun 01 06:43:43 ascent: it need but its buildsystem is fscked Jun 01 06:44:15 hrw|work: pcre i386 4.5-2 db Jun 01 06:44:19 it's installed on the hostpc Jun 01 06:44:45 pcre-dev too Jun 01 06:44:59 hm, not sure if fedora has that :) Jun 01 06:45:03 if fedora has -dev packages Jun 01 06:45:05 :) Jun 01 06:45:07 indeed. :) Jun 01 06:45:13 it doesn't :) Jun 01 06:45:23 What file does it look for? Some /usr/include/blabla file? Jun 01 06:45:24 libpcre3-dev? Jun 01 06:45:51 lets see Jun 01 06:46:20 yum is too wird. Jun 01 06:46:21 weird Jun 01 06:46:52 pcre-devel! Jun 01 06:47:07 mickeyl: Strange, I have CVSDATE_gnu-config-native = 20050521 in my local.conf. But doesn't show up like latest != preferred. Jun 01 06:47:50 proti: could we do tmp_pn.append( priorities[p] ) Jun 01 06:47:53 CVSDATE != PREFERRED_VERSION. CVSDATE=CVSDATE. Jun 01 06:47:55 * kergoth yawns Jun 01 06:48:04 pkg_pn = tmp_pn.reverse() Jun 01 06:48:05 'morning kergoth Jun 01 06:48:26 hey kergoth Jun 01 06:48:31 koen: whats up? Jun 01 06:48:47 * ascent hugs koen, thanks, works! Jun 01 06:48:50 zecke: not much Jun 01 06:48:58 kergoth: whats up? ;) Jun 01 06:49:14 hey kergoth. how are things? Jun 01 06:49:19 hi kergoth Jun 01 06:49:31 proti: and also in-between your changes it is expetced that pkn_pn is a list of lists Jun 01 06:50:07 proti: sadly your patch is only 50% correct Jun 01 06:50:09 zecke: pkg_pn is a dict of strings list Jun 01 06:50:17 ~hail web.archive.org Jun 01 06:50:19 * ibot bows down to web.archive.org and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 01 06:51:04 zecke: How ? I missed something. Were is it expected that pkg_pn[pn] to be a list of list ? Jun 01 06:51:41 morning to you too kergoth. Jun 01 06:55:28 zecke: The goal for the tmp_pn thing is to sort pkg_pn pn according to the bb_priority value. Not to change its structure. Jun 01 06:57:15 lines 253-267 Jun 01 07:08:55 03mickeyl * r237 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: use cooker.findBestProvider() for the 'which' command Jun 01 07:12:24 03koen 07 * r1.3464 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 01 07:12:25 nokia770.conf: use tune-arm926ejs instead of xscale Jun 01 07:12:25 tune-arm926ejs.conf: set PACKAGE_ARCH to arm926ejs Jun 01 07:12:25 osso-af-utils_0.4.bb: typo-- Jun 01 07:16:47 ooo, this sumer of code seems intresting Jun 01 07:17:20 mithro: you are student? Jun 01 07:18:57 hrw|work: sure am! Jun 01 07:22:48 03koen 07 * r1.3465 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: de-omap5912osk-ize the .bb a bit. Everyhting 5912 related should be using overrides now Jun 01 07:22:48 Crofton: iirc you are the 5912osk specialist, right? Jun 01 07:23:26 hrw|work: hence why I find it intresting Jun 01 07:24:18 anyway off to bed Jun 01 07:24:19 gnight Jun 01 07:24:42 n8 mithro Jun 01 07:25:25 cu Jun 01 07:25:45 mickeyl: hi there? Jun 01 07:26:12 Spyro: yep Jun 01 07:26:25 mickeyl: got time to poe about on my machine ? Jun 01 07:26:29 poe = poke Jun 01 07:26:44 ya Jun 01 07:27:03 mickeyl: ok, privmsg me and I'll see if I can set up port forwarding so you can ssh in Jun 01 07:32:40 * CosmicPenguin kicks his proxy Jun 01 07:41:05 * CosmicPenguin finds the double secret proxy, and it works Jun 01 07:43:18 hi Jun 01 07:46:54 zecke: You are correct for the in-between list of lists. I will correct my patch. Jun 01 08:05:46 ~akita Jun 01 08:05:49 akita is, like, the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog Jun 01 08:05:59 mickeyl: ping Jun 01 08:16:20 When I want to build the kernel with my own config, I can go to /home/ascent/stuff/openembedded/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6 and replace a defconfig with my own config, given the fact that I have MACHINE = "ipaq-pxa-2.6" in my local.conf, right? Jun 01 08:16:25 luke:pong Jun 01 08:16:34 which of the three defconfigs should I replace: Jun 01 08:16:34 -r--r--r-- 1 ascent ascent 26491 May 31 23:12 defconfig Jun 01 08:16:34 -r--r--r-- 1 ascent ascent 25208 May 31 23:12 defconfig-ipaq-pxa-2.6 Jun 01 08:16:34 -r--r--r-- 1 ascent ascent 27497 May 31 23:12 defconfig-ipaq-pxa-2.6_2.6.8.1-hh0 Jun 01 08:18:16 mickeyl: sure the /media/ram mount should be in akita, etc? Jun 01 08:18:29 mickeyl: I think /etc/init.d/ramdisk does something on those... Jun 01 08:19:12 the /etc/init.d/ramdisk shouldn't do anything on systems without a ramdisk Jun 01 08:19:19 "mtd-based" ramdisk Jun 01 08:19:37 The PDA-style Zaurii don't have that? Jun 01 08:20:22 Luke-Jr: the only model with mtd-based ramdisk is collie Jun 01 08:20:24 ~collie Jun 01 08:20:25 collie is, like, sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog Jun 01 08:20:29 hmm Jun 01 08:20:32 bbl, need to go home now Jun 01 08:22:05 Anyone? Jun 01 08:36:18 03koen 07 * r1.3466 10openembedded/conf/machine/h3900.conf: clean up h3900.conf a bit Jun 01 08:44:00 mickeyl: it broke, btw Jun 01 08:45:57 treke: looks like cornelius wants to remove KitchenSync... Jun 01 08:46:13 IMHO one should start with KRES::Resource... Jun 01 08:50:55 koen, I have done alot of the 5912OSK stuff Jun 01 08:51:39 Crofton: I rearranged to linux-omap1.bb a bit to allow the nokia770 to use it Jun 01 08:52:00 cool Jun 01 08:52:16 I'll double check the stuff at my end "soon" Jun 01 08:52:18 could you check if I broke it in non-obvious ways? Jun 01 08:52:37 I am stuck on some CORBA problem at the moment Jun 01 09:02:06 bother the pull locked up bk Jun 01 09:03:02 Entire repository is locked by: Jun 01 09:03:02 RESYNC directory. Jun 01 09:03:02 ERROR-Unable to lock repository for update. Jun 01 09:03:11 How do I get out of this again? Jun 01 09:03:28 bk resolve Jun 01 09:03:33 you've a conflict Jun 01 09:03:49 yeah, I had forgotten again ... Jun 01 09:06:24 zecke: I modified the patch, would you like getting an eye on it ? Jun 01 09:55:49 cya Jun 01 10:20:04 03koen 07 * r1.3467 10openembedded/conf/machine/nokia770.conf: nokia770.conf: add missing arm926ejs to IPKG_ARCHS Jun 01 10:21:07 koen: are you intentionally dense? Jun 01 10:21:16 dense? Jun 01 10:21:31 how many times do we have to explain that bugs.openembedded.org is where we keep the oz bug tracker as well as the oe one? Jun 01 10:21:45 I know that Jun 01 10:21:55 and I think it is good to combine them Jun 01 10:22:06 I was just pointing out the hypocrisy Jun 01 10:22:15 bullshit Jun 01 10:22:34 it isn't hypocrisy. Hosting two mailing lists is significantly simpler than hosting two bug trackers Jun 01 10:22:40 that's all Jun 01 10:29:46 What I get "Traceback (most recent call last):" and a bunch of stuff, how do I figure out what happened? Jun 01 10:36:57 Can someone please tell me how to get bitbake to spit out more useful debug info? Jun 01 10:53:26 Did we add some sort of download file caching to bitbake? Jun 01 10:53:29 because if we did - its for shit Jun 01 10:54:07 Can someone tell me what this means: TypeError: list objects are unhashable Jun 01 10:56:36 sounds ike a type mismatch Jun 01 10:56:50 maybe trying to use a list as a key Jun 01 10:57:29 treke: can you tranlate that to english for non-developers Jun 01 10:58:03 not really Jun 01 10:59:16 trying to use a group of stuff as a single item Jun 01 10:59:21 that's somewhat english, I think ;) Jun 01 10:59:48 a particular type of single item* Jun 01 11:20:55 Okay, I hate to request this, can someone try to "bitbake opie-image" and see if they get a really long and annoying traceback (after makedevs) Jun 01 11:22:25 I removed all my modifications to local.conf and recloned, and I still get the same damn error Jun 01 11:31:15 Zero_Chaos: did you wipe tmp? Jun 01 11:36:51 http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode <- hint Jun 01 11:40:24 Luke-Jr: yup, I love wiping tmp Jun 01 11:42:28 summer?! you mean winter! Jun 01 11:42:54 ok, winterofcode for the people on the southern hemisphere Jun 01 11:43:48 thx :) Jun 01 11:48:47 a bit cold this morning, too Jun 01 11:52:15 ok, so 1.3.0 is completely unusable IMHO Jun 01 11:52:32 CosmicPenguin: bitbake 1.3.0? Jun 01 11:52:39 yeah Jun 01 11:52:47 what broke? Jun 01 11:53:07 didn't OE require svn trunk? Jun 01 11:53:25 it is completely skipping over the fetch stage in most cases Jun 01 11:53:36 -b works though Jun 01 11:53:42 s/package/bb/ Jun 01 12:09:27 hi guys Jun 01 12:10:44 shit Jun 01 12:10:53 it helps when you port over the right damn base.bbclass... :) Jun 01 12:49:06 hello Jun 01 12:49:18 I won't say morning as its 21:49 here Jun 01 12:49:49 ~UGT Jun 01 12:49:51 rumour has it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. Jun 01 12:49:56 hey hrw Jun 01 12:49:59 koen: I know about ugt ;) Jun 01 12:50:01 morning, hrw! Jun 01 12:52:55 evening Jun 01 12:53:57 we're using ugt today, it seems... so... morning :) Jun 01 12:54:16 someone tried to watch dvd from ISO (dvd image) file? Jun 01 12:55:17 some years ago Jun 01 12:56:13 mounted image and it looks like only video ;( Jun 01 12:56:52 uf.. mplayer can find what need Jun 01 12:57:26 anyway mplayer sucks when it comes to dvdnav Jun 01 12:57:45 ... Jun 01 12:58:04 mplayer -dvd-device /dev/loop0 dvd://0 Jun 01 12:58:30 Luke-Jr: mplayer iso/video_ts/* Jun 01 12:58:39 nah Jun 01 12:58:42 that won't work nicely Jun 01 12:59:00 you'll get glitches every 1 GB Jun 01 13:01:39 54 tracks on disc Jun 01 13:08:08 aboeglin: did you make any progress on a gpe-image for the hx4700 yet? Jun 01 13:24:44 okay, I deleted my tmp, recloned my openembedded, updated everything, removed my personal modifications and still I get this: Jun 01 13:24:47 NOTE: package makedevs-1.0.0: completed Jun 01 13:24:49 Traceback (most recent call last): Jun 01 13:24:51 and lots more like that.... Jun 01 13:24:54 File "/home/zaurus/src/bitbake/bin/bitbake", line 715, in ? Jun 01 13:24:56 cooker.cook( args[1:] ) Jun 01 13:25:04 ending with this: TypeError: list objects are unhashable Jun 01 13:25:04 Zero_Chaos: pastebin it Jun 01 13:25:07 ~pastebin Jun 01 13:25:10 pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca Jun 01 13:25:42 :) Jun 01 13:26:40 hi all Jun 01 13:26:53 Howdie :) Jun 01 13:26:54 Norm! Jun 01 13:35:37 http://pastebin.ca/13134 Jun 01 13:35:54 Can anyone tell me what that means? Or at least how to get more useful debug info? Jun 01 13:37:29 bitbake --version Jun 01 13:38:10 BitBake Build Tool core version 1.3.0, bitbake version 1.3.1 Jun 01 13:38:21 I think it's 239 from svn Jun 01 13:38:38 237 is latest Jun 01 13:38:51 okay, it's that one then... Jun 01 13:39:02 yup, just checked Jun 01 13:39:23 see if its just related to opie-image Jun 01 13:39:40 CosmicPenguin: what should I build then? Jun 01 13:40:03 there's only about a thousand packages to choose from Jun 01 13:40:16 How about bootstrap-image Jun 01 13:40:21 CosmicPenguin: okay.... Jun 01 13:40:56 darnit, rereading the bb files instead of using the cache.... give me a bit.... Jun 01 13:50:10 http://pastebin.ca/13137 It's the same thing near as I can tell.... anyway to make this error more useful? Jun 01 13:54:43 Zero_Chaos: well, seeing as though I just did a successful bootstrap-image on my side, I'm thinking the problem lays somewhere in your setup Jun 01 13:55:21 treke, ggilbert: what's the situation with the snapshots at the moment? The last one on oesources.org seems to be dated May 4. Jun 01 13:56:20 http://pastebin.ca/13138 Well, that is my setup, can you see anything glaringly wrong? Jun 01 13:58:11 pb_: Didnt see a need to continue them now that the same thing could be accomplished with free tools Jun 01 13:58:51 treke: ah, right, fair enough. Jun 01 13:59:13 bitmovers gpl tool should accomplish pretty much the same thing Jun 01 13:59:45 except without the delay Jun 01 14:00:17 Maybe you could add some kind of warning to the snapshots directory to discourage folks from downloading them. One of my colleagues was trying to set up OE today, and he downloaded the snap thinking that it would be the easiest way to get going. Jun 01 14:00:36 ah Jun 01 14:00:37 unfortunately, those snaps don't seem to work at all with the current bitbake. Jun 01 14:00:42 yeah Jun 01 14:00:55 CosmicPenguin: so, any idea? Jun 01 14:00:56 the current bitbake required a change in the metadata Jun 01 14:01:06 I'll just drop that site and put in a link the the gpl tool Jun 01 14:01:13 right, it looks like there was an important change to base.bbclass on May 20 or so Jun 01 14:01:29 ok, that works for me Jun 01 14:01:45 * koen dreams of an eabi future Jun 01 14:02:07 * chouimat is away: food Jun 01 14:08:12 Well, I scratched my local.conf and remade it, I guess I'll let it build again and see where it fails this time.... Jun 01 14:08:17 later all. Jun 01 14:26:21 koen: not completely. I managed to boot in GPE from a hx4700 image in which I installed gpe-task-base, but not from a modified h3900 gpe image. Jun 01 14:26:44 aboeglin: I'll take a look at it next weekend Jun 01 14:26:57 I managed to borrow a hx4700 for testing Jun 01 14:27:32 should I try a clean gpe-image build from openembedded ? Jun 01 14:27:50 that will probably fall apart Jun 01 14:27:55 but it's worth a try Jun 01 14:28:00 jsut to see where it fails Jun 01 14:28:38 I've use a c7x0 gpe 2.6 image for the hx4700 Jun 01 14:28:51 s/I've/I'd/ Jun 01 14:29:06 RP: now you have a hx4700 too? Jun 01 14:29:25 koen: No, but I know the hx4700 hardware Jun 01 14:29:35 very similar to the hx2750 Jun 01 14:29:47 and the hx2750 works best with a c7x0 2.6 gpe image Jun 01 14:29:55 I've a freshly build c7x0 image lying around here, if someone wants to do some quick testing :) Jun 01 14:30:00 is there a familiar 'CURRENT' distro metadata file ? familiar-0.8.2 don't build with latest openembedded data Jun 01 14:31:00 0.9.0 Jun 01 14:31:38 pb_: I did some cleanup in h3900.conf today Jun 01 14:32:24 pb_: the 2.6 and IMAGE_CMD should be working now Jun 01 14:32:48 the "should" depends on me testing a 2.6 build with miplv6 Jun 01 14:33:02 very good Jun 01 15:15:30 'night all Jun 01 15:42:58 * chouimat is back. Jun 01 16:42:45 * chouimat is away: bookstore Jun 01 17:05:59 * chouimat is back. Jun 01 17:14:54 * chouimat is away: books and wine ;) Jun 01 18:17:17 anyone on (and awake)? Jun 01 18:21:23 mickeyl: ping Jun 01 18:21:27 kergoth: ping Jun 01 18:36:41 no one here but us trolls Jun 01 18:51:24 offroadgeek: I'm here, but I doubt I can help you ;) Jun 01 18:53:15 Luke-Jr: what kind of dev do you do for oz? Jun 01 18:54:00 offroadgeek: I maintain a OE-based distro for Cxx0 Zs Jun 01 18:54:17 basically, I just run 'bitbake gpe-image-ljr' every night :) Jun 01 18:54:41 There's a total of 2 users, AFAIK ;) Jun 01 18:55:02 http://utopios.org/~luke-jr/programs/oz-ljr/ Jun 01 18:55:04 ok... thanks Jun 01 20:01:07 ljp: ping Jun 01 20:03:39 my bitbake fails trying to get quilt-native- it tries to unpack it but it's not ever downloaded. I can see a cvs url in the bb package file Jun 01 20:03:48 anyone know where I should look? tmp/ doesnt show me much Jun 01 20:09:50 pong Jun 01 20:14:33 hi all, I'm trying to build a poodle image. Could someone please point me to an alternate location for "linux-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-slc860-20031107-rom1_10.bz2 as http://developer.ezaurus.com is down? Jun 01 20:16:26 hm, quilt has cvs:// in its URI - what does OE use to get those? Jun 01 20:16:32 i installed the cvs bin but no dice still Jun 01 20:20:00 * chouimat is back. Jun 01 20:20:20 synth: rm -f tmp/stamps/quilt-native-* Jun 01 20:24:26 Anyone know how to recover files from a jffs2 image? Jun 01 20:24:52 it seems to be corrupt, because it hangs all systems (Z, amd64, x86) that try mounting it as mtdram Jun 01 20:26:05 Luke-Jr: i dont have a stamps dir at all Jun 01 20:27:31 night Jun 01 20:33:21 synth: you should... Jun 01 20:34:51 hm Jun 01 20:34:56 bed for me too. Jun 01 20:44:34 * france is back (gone 21:17:35) Jun 01 20:45:16 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3468 10openembedded/packages/altboot/files/poodle/altboot.cfg: altboot: Add poodle config Jun 01 20:49:18 I guess nobody has "linux-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-slc860-20031107-rom1_10.bz2" lying around huh? Jun 01 21:09:19 howdy people Jun 01 21:09:45 CoreDump: I tried searching the same package yesterdy...couldn't find anything either Jun 01 21:11:45 i got it Jun 01 22:31:36 Zero_Chaos: I just got the same error you had "TypeError: list objects are unhashable" from bitbake (v237)... did you figure out how to fix it? Jun 01 23:21:23 goooooood morning all Jun 01 23:39:45 morning koen Jun 01 23:40:09 hey Luke-Jr Jun 01 23:42:57 hello Jun 01 23:43:24 don't tell the script kiddies, but I'm updating my desktop system for the first time in months =p **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 01 23:59:56 2005