**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 02 23:59:57 2005 Jun 03 00:24:26 hue: are you using patcher or quilt ? Jun 03 00:25:33 morning Jun 03 00:33:21 good morning all Jun 03 00:33:35 morning Jun 03 00:37:43 morning koen Jun 03 00:46:42 morning koen/all :0 Jun 03 00:48:03 03pb 07 * r1.3476 10openembedded/packages/gcc/ (18 files in 2 dirs): update gcc (3.4 branch) to 3.4.4 Jun 03 00:51:13 :proti I use quilt Jun 03 01:14:19 morning all Jun 03 01:15:54 hey ade|desk Jun 03 01:16:16 03pb 07 * r1.3477 10openembedded/packages/gcc/gcc-cross-initial_3.4.4.bb: also provide -cross-initial version of gcc 3.4.4 Jun 03 01:19:55 morning all Jun 03 01:22:38 morning Jun 03 01:24:52 bang goes my hope of getting a c1000, 600 quid to get car fixed :( ... 20 quid was the mid-service ... takes the piss really Jun 03 01:28:03 what happened to the car? Jun 03 01:30:37 nothing.. just went in for a service Jun 03 01:33:28 You should have been around yesterday when offroadgeek was handing out c1000's ;) Jun 03 01:36:26 bugger Jun 03 01:36:33 was ill at home :( Jun 03 01:38:04 hi all Jun 03 01:39:36 hi hrw Jun 03 02:10:33 ~seen zecke Jun 03 02:10:39 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 10h 11m 14s ago, saying: 'great'. Jun 03 02:11:21 zecke|sleep: There was garbage at the end of my patch. A mishandling of patcher. Jun 03 02:11:57 When I realized that, I think it wasn't worth to pollute the ml with another patch. Just drop the last hunk. Jun 03 02:12:09 hi mickeyl Jun 03 02:12:14 morning Jun 03 02:12:25 hi hrw, mickeyl Jun 03 02:12:40 XorA: NOTE: [11:08] package enchant-1.1.3-r0: task do_fetch: failed Jun 03 02:12:47 XorA: so no abiword :( Jun 03 02:13:04 I had a strange problem yesterday with qte-2.3.10. Jun 03 02:14:01 QRect:intersects defined twice in different place. Jun 03 02:18:41 odd, never seen that Jun 03 02:19:40 hrw|work: sucks Jun 03 02:20:19 mickeyl: One in kernel/qrect.cpp and one in qwidget_qws.cpp. Jun 03 02:20:31 gimp fails on do_configure: | configure: error: Could not find gdk-pixbuf-csource in your PATH Jun 03 02:20:56 eeks! Jun 03 02:21:01 that's a binary Jun 03 02:21:22 hrm, that would mean a gtk+-native is needed Jun 03 02:21:25 koen: which is not found in my host enviroment or in staging Jun 03 02:21:42 hrw|work: enchant is there, must be something wrong your end Jun 03 02:22:01 XorA: will look again - now gnumeric is on the way Jun 03 02:22:26 and I have to resolve /dev/ permissions - gpe is not usable with udev 058 from OE Jun 03 02:23:48 hrw|work: gnumeric doesnt build Jun 03 02:23:55 ah. ok Jun 03 02:24:04 hrw|work: I have udev 54 Jun 03 02:25:03 /etc/init.d/gpe-dm istart Jun 03 02:25:19 lets look will gpe behave now Jun 03 02:28:41 when I have a fixed CVSDATE... will bk still pull changes in OE? I'm getting 'Nothing to pull.' for quite some time now Jun 03 02:28:54 with permissions.rules added gpe works better Jun 03 02:29:08 Arjan: CVSDATE is *build* time Jun 03 02:29:13 Arjan: metadata fetching is not related to cvsdate Jun 03 02:30:35 that's what I thought. so it's normal that there aren't any updates for multiple days? are all the openembedded patches I see here (from the CIA bot) in another tree? Jun 03 02:31:09 mickeyl: can you sync repos? Jun 03 02:31:44 gnumeric fails because gnomeprint does not find gnomecups? Jun 03 02:32:10 I had it fail during compile Jun 03 02:32:26 | checking for CUPS libraries version >= 1.1.20... Found version 1.1.23 Jun 03 02:32:27 | checking for libgnomecups-1.0 >= 0.1.0... Package libgnomecups-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Jun 03 02:32:31 NOTE: [11:29] package libgnomeprint-2.8.2-r1: task do_configure: failed Jun 03 02:32:46 I dont have gnome libs in host enviroment Jun 03 02:33:13 koen: does the latest gnumeric not have a --without-gnome option BTW, the web page said it was going to Jun 03 02:33:55 XorA: haven't looked at that yet Jun 03 02:34:06 that would be nice to have Jun 03 02:35:16 XorA: enchant fetched now Jun 03 02:35:23 openembedded.bkbits.net SYNC done. Jun 03 02:36:46 * koen awaits the CIA flood Jun 03 02:39:01 koen: no, this time i remembered to BK_SILENT it Jun 03 02:39:11 :) Jun 03 02:50:01 hi all Jun 03 02:50:18 03koen 07 * r1.3478 10openembedded/packages/cairo/cairo_0.5.0.bb: Add cairo 0.5.0 snapshot to avoid more cvs API breakage Jun 03 02:50:29 hi bluelightning Jun 03 02:50:33 hi mickeyl Jun 03 02:50:42 hey bluelightning Jun 03 02:50:48 hi koen Jun 03 02:52:42 hi bluelightning Jun 03 02:52:46 hi hrw|work Jun 03 02:53:15 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3477.1.1 10openembedded/packages/python/ (python_2.4.1.bb python-2.4.1-manifest.inc): Jun 03 02:53:15 python: Jun 03 02:53:15 add python-logging Jun 03 02:53:15 add python-datetime Jun 03 02:53:15 add cookielib to python-netclient Jun 03 02:53:16 add python-logging and python-datetime as dependencies for python-netclient Jun 03 02:58:07 mickeyl: was that mass python add in response to the oesf forums post? Jun 03 02:58:25 jamesm: yeah Jun 03 02:58:41 that should fix the problems jason was having Jun 03 02:58:57 Thats good, I'll try it later, got some things that use urllib Jun 03 02:59:15 cool, keep me posted Jun 03 03:03:51 03koen 07 * r1.3478.1.3 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libpixman_cvs.bb, libsvg-cairo_cvs.bb, cairo_cvs.bb: lower default for _cvs Jun 03 03:03:53 03koen 07 * r1.3478.1.2 10openembedded/packages/libpixman/libpixman_0.1.5.bb: Add libpixman 0.1.5 snapshot Jun 03 03:03:56 03koen 07 * r1.3478.1.1 10openembedded/packages/cairo/libsvg-cairo_0.1.5.bb: Add libsvg-cairo 0.1.5 snapshot Jun 03 03:11:21 heh.. abiword failes Jun 03 03:12:01 http://pastebin.ca/13266 Jun 03 03:13:03 ah, that abiword problem Jun 03 03:13:12 Xora and I haven't been able to track it down Jun 03 03:13:19 it suddenly appeared Jun 03 03:13:42 there should be an abiword package in the feed :) Jun 03 03:13:42 good to know that I'm not the first one with it Jun 03 03:14:17 15M free on / Jun 03 03:24:22 hmm.. one strange thing I got.. Jun 03 03:24:43 http://pastebin.ca/13267 Jun 03 03:24:51 when installing gpe-filemanager Jun 03 03:27:21 looks like it's missing a bunch of deps Jun 03 03:27:38 I will pastebin some more in a minute/two Jun 03 03:29:23 probably know... Jun 03 03:29:26 ~lart vim Jun 03 03:29:26 * ibot takes a big bite out of vim's jugular vein Jun 03 03:29:49 poor old vim Jun 03 03:30:26 I loaded Pacakges.gz into vim to remove ^Source: lines - and it unpacked only part of file ;( Jun 03 03:42:01 03pb 07 * r1.3481 10openembedded/packages/gcc/ (3 files): new snapshot of gcc csl-arm branch Jun 03 03:47:04 hmm.. udev have udev.inc with do_install().. I have one change which is needed in 058 (rather not in older) - should I copy do_install() into udev_058.bb or use do_install_append()? Jun 03 03:47:58 either is fine. do whichever is easier. Jun 03 03:48:35 pb_: I fixed permissions in /dev/ - that was changed in udev 057 Jun 03 03:51:28 pb_: what's the chance of those eabi patching landing glibc cvs now they've scrapped arm support? Jun 03 03:52:59 hrw|work: ah, great Jun 03 03:53:26 koen: improved, but still not likely to happen for at least a few days Jun 03 03:53:58 pb_: without that change gpe is unusable/non-working for !root Jun 03 03:54:04 hrw|work: right. Jun 03 03:58:54 Zero_Chaos: v238 fixed the parse problem for me Jun 03 04:04:37 03hrw 07 * r1.3482 10openembedded/packages/udev/udev_058.bb: added permissions.rules to udev 058 so /dev/ entries will get correct permissions - without it GPE was unusable for normal users Jun 03 04:13:06 pb_: someone tried glibc from Code Sourcery? Jun 03 04:16:50 hrw|work: those are basically the patches that we need to apply. Jun 03 04:18:14 thats why I'm asking Jun 03 04:19:14 what's the preferred process of creating fixed cvsdates? Jun 03 04:19:14 foo_20050303 + PV="0.0+cvs${CVSDATE}" ? Jun 03 04:20:51 not sure if that counts as preferred.. but if you have a look at the gtk-webcore .bbs you'll see how I usually do it Jun 03 04:20:51 I use that style - but s/0.0/current_version/ Jun 03 04:34:20 mickey|lunch: bitbake interactive is nice Jun 03 04:34:26 my opie-image build keeps failing at collie-kernel-32-0-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r19: task do_compile with a message that says "arm-linux-gcc-2.95: No such file or directory"... /usr/bin/local/2.95.3/bin/arm-linux-gcc-2.95 is exported in both BBPATH and PATH... anyone know how to fix this? Jun 03 04:34:38 ~zauruskernels Jun 03 04:35:47 [zauruskernels] By default Zaurus use 2.4.18 or 2.4.20 and you need GCC 2.95.3 to compile them - all is described in OE wiki: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels There is also work on 2.6: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels26 Jun 03 04:37:58 so collie = openzaurus-pxa? Jun 03 04:38:12 no Jun 03 04:38:18 collie has a strongarm cpu Jun 03 04:38:40 so SA for StrongArm Jun 03 04:38:45 okay... Jun 03 04:38:45 yes Jun 03 04:38:53 and pxa for xscale Jun 03 04:40:39 so what is bitbake opie-image / gpe-image for? Jun 03 04:41:16 jumpkick: for create whole filesystem and kernel Jun 03 04:41:18 I'm thinking they should build everything but the kernel... Jun 03 04:41:41 jumpkick: how to build something which depend on kernel without building kernel? Jun 03 04:42:28 hrw|work: so then how do I get the right kernel for a collie specified so it builds as part of the image? Jun 03 04:44:35 jumpkick: read zauruskernels and do let bitbake do all work Jun 03 04:44:41 read and follow Jun 03 04:46:44 zecke|sleep: bitbake-qa works with current bitbake? Jun 03 05:01:18 Hi people, how do I add an extra package to my bootstrap or gpe images? I already tried adding BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS="less" to local.conf, but that didn't work :( Jun 03 05:05:29 03mickeyl * r239 10bitbake/bin/bitbake: catch build exceptions also when building just one file Jun 03 05:28:47 Do we know busybox isn't building at the moment? Jun 03 05:29:22 Crofton|laptop: really? I built it yesterday Jun 03 05:29:42 NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (2385/2394) [99 %]ERROR: /oe_stuff/openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox_1.00.bb:98: unparsed line: 'pkg_postinst_${PN} () {' while parsing /oe_stuff/openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox_1.00.bb Jun 03 05:29:43 NOTE: Parsing finished. 2345 cached, 0 parsed, 48 skipped, 0 masked. Jun 03 05:29:43 N Jun 03 05:30:02 I haven't bitbaked anything in 2 weeks Jun 03 05:30:13 Crofton|laptop: too old bitbake Jun 03 05:30:17 so I just pulled and tried making opie-image Jun 03 05:30:22 heh Jun 03 05:30:30 OK Jun 03 05:30:32 thanks Jun 03 05:30:51 Crofton|laptop: coredump had that problem Jun 03 05:31:02 lunch time Jun 03 05:31:11 I had updated since the major wacking Jun 03 05:32:05 Good thing my bugzilla email didn't show up Jun 03 05:32:13 I was about to enter there Jun 03 05:34:40 What new wonderful features are in bitbake? Jun 03 05:34:52 working busybox parsing :) Jun 03 05:35:00 heh Jun 03 05:35:12 ver yvaluable Jun 03 05:35:33 I was surprised when I received the busybox dependency not satisfied :) Jun 03 05:54:32 hmm, new bitbake has been running for like 10 minutes and it is still using lots of CPU and displayingthe using cache message Jun 03 05:55:15 did you get te latest svn version? Jun 03 05:55:23 removing the cache also helps Jun 03 05:56:58 yep just grabbed svn bitbake Jun 03 05:57:05 how do you remove cache? Jun 03 05:57:30 Crofton|laptop: tm -r tmp/cache Jun 03 05:57:33 rm ${TMPDIR}/cache Jun 03 05:58:06 or just touch conf/local.conf - many methods are Jun 03 05:58:22 I just wacked cache and am trying again Jun 03 06:25:56 While making opie-image, I get http://ascent.student.utwente.nl/~ascent/error <- that error. Jun 03 06:26:03 Something regarding libc6 Jun 03 06:26:09 Can anyone shine a light on that? Jun 03 06:27:04 try recompiling glibc Jun 03 06:31:16 Oki. Jun 03 06:51:43 ~change 29 usd to pln Jun 03 06:51:47 29.00 United States Dollar (USD) makes 96.8936 Zloty (PLN) (from http://www.xe.com/) Jun 03 07:36:58 So, is quilt dead and gone then? Jun 03 07:37:43 maybe it only smells that way Jun 03 07:38:22 Thats the way I feel about patcher Jun 03 07:38:55 have a good weekend everybody! Jun 03 07:53:07 cu Jun 03 07:53:11 time to go home Jun 03 07:58:32 hi Jun 03 08:08:28 Good evening. Jun 03 08:10:27 CosmicPenguin: what's the deal with quilt? Jun 03 08:10:55 tigrux: hello! Jun 03 08:23:17 pb_: I dunno - I just saw on the mailing list that people were recommending INHERIT="patcher" for gnu-config Jun 03 08:23:23 I figured that we had given up on quilt Jun 03 08:24:09 I deleted my tmp last night and rebuilt with no problem. Jun 03 08:43:07 CosmicPenguin: oh, right. I think mickey has always preferred patcher. Jun 03 09:43:22 anyone recommend a good place to get PCB prototypes made from? Jun 03 10:20:02 03koen 07 * r1.3483 10openembedded/ (10 files in 7 dirs): Adjust nokia770.conf, add Xserver-kdrive-omap + tslib-meamo + nokia X extensions, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 03 10:20:38 cu Jun 03 10:21:18 koen: so has anyone fired up a OE build on the 770? Jun 03 10:21:46 CosmicPenguin: http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices&id=port_24090 Jun 03 10:21:52 need I say more? :) Jun 03 10:22:31 OE only makes a rootfs, kernel + initrd isn't supported yet Jun 03 10:22:34 re Jun 03 10:22:39 hey zecke Jun 03 10:23:56 ohh - purty Jun 03 10:24:18 Crofton must be excited, now everyone is concentrating on OMAP.. :) Jun 03 10:24:41 :) Jun 03 10:27:01 In a month or two the -maemo versions of stuff will go away Jun 03 10:27:05 (I hope) Jun 03 10:27:26 they are quite keen on upstreaming their stuff Jun 03 10:28:23 CosmicPenguin: does AMD have a killer alchemy gadget lined up? Jun 03 10:29:29 CosmicPenguin: can one get Alchemy Boards (with Firewire) for Universities easily? Jun 03 10:31:31 where to get the speical deal Nokia devices? Or did Ximian bought all already? Jun 03 10:32:37 zecke: http://maemo.org/news/25052005.html Jun 03 10:33:19 koen: we're getting ready to ship the 1200 development platforms (http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_6625_12409%5E12411,00.html) Jun 03 10:33:49 koen: the RDKs will follow soon - obviously I can't say if any cool gadgets are coming down the pipe, but I sure hope so, because its a cool ass platform Jun 03 10:34:01 thant would make a nice video player Jun 03 10:35:14 zecke: we don't have any boards with on-board firewire, I don't think - but the 1500/1550 has PCI Jun 03 10:35:25 and the 1550 and the 1200 have PCMCIA support too Jun 03 10:35:41 cardbus too? Jun 03 10:36:51 koen: no Jun 03 10:36:53 hmm, high speed usb? Jun 03 10:36:58 koen: just 8 bit and 16 bit Jun 03 10:36:59 Crofton_: yes Jun 03 10:37:18 Crofton_: UDC and OTG on the 1200 too Jun 03 10:37:25 ~lart usb people for messing up the specs Jun 03 10:37:25 * ibot gets a hotmal account and SPAMs usb people for messing up the specs Jun 03 10:37:27 how much power at 12 volts? Jun 03 10:39:05 Crofton_: the processor is 400mW @ 400MHz Jun 03 10:39:38 I have way to many irons in the fire today ... Jun 03 10:39:50 not exactly sure what the development board is draining at this point Jun 03 10:41:00 any clue how much? Jun 03 10:41:27 1.21 jigawatts Jun 03 10:41:38 er $ :) Jun 03 10:42:13 Crofton_: you mean the processor in quantity, or the dev board? Jun 03 10:42:27 dev board Jun 03 10:44:11 I don't think I will buy enough CPU's to get you out of hot water though Jun 03 10:44:17 Crofton_: heh.. :) Jun 03 10:44:45 Good exposure chances though :) Jun 03 10:44:57 Crofton_: I'll see I can track something down for you Jun 03 10:45:27 That would be great Jun 03 10:45:35 They've been quite popular - I've already killled two people who tried to nick mine Jun 03 10:45:38 Are there definitions in OE for it? Jun 03 10:46:01 Crofton_: there can be very shortly Jun 03 10:46:38 cool Jun 03 10:46:48 that would fit well with work I have been doing Jun 03 10:47:18 that I am supposed to be doing right now instead of talking on IRC Jun 03 10:47:28 * Crofton_ collapses under time pressure Jun 03 10:49:00 * koen makes "developer interaction" part of Crofton_'s job description Jun 03 10:49:20 heh, that has been part of they days work Jun 03 10:49:34 and I need to badger a lawyer Jun 03 10:50:20 lawyer badgered :) Jun 03 11:04:02 koen: do we've gtkmm bindings in oe already? Jun 03 11:04:13 yes Jun 03 11:04:19 good Jun 03 11:04:21 minisip uses them Jun 03 11:04:27 glademm should be in too iirc Jun 03 11:04:37 * zecke hopes to get a Nokia N770... Jun 03 11:04:42 * Crofton_ too Jun 03 11:04:48 * koen too Jun 03 11:04:54 Hildon# aeh HildonC++ will be done... Jun 03 11:04:57 it looks close to the OSK + LCD display for alot lees money Jun 03 11:05:19 I wonder what Nokia wants to do with the DSP Jun 03 11:05:29 video Jun 03 11:05:48 gstreamer has optimized codecs Jun 03 11:05:49 gstreamer for dsp ;) Jun 03 11:05:55 oh really? Jun 03 11:06:08 and they have a optimized image viewer too Jun 03 11:06:13 they plotted that really carefully Jun 03 11:06:23 zecke: gstreamer was started for ridgerun inc Jun 03 11:06:35 it was designed for those omap thingies Jun 03 11:06:58 if Miguel wouldn't suck and piss me off so much... Jun 03 11:07:05 heh Jun 03 11:07:12 miguel is for mono Jun 03 11:07:23 the 770 doesn't run that :) Jun 03 11:07:27 yet Jun 03 11:07:37 I'm sure Miguel tries to sell that to Nokia Jun 03 11:08:13 koen: the sad part is C#/CLI would really make sense for the Nokia N770 Jun 03 11:08:25 koen: it makes sense for any device executing untrusted code not having Java Jun 03 11:08:47 the arm926 has java accell Jun 03 11:08:54 it can execute bytecode Jun 03 11:09:05 no linux support yet, though Jun 03 11:09:20 http://www.arm.com/pdfs/JazelleWhitePaper.pdf Jun 03 11:09:46 java? Jun 03 11:10:26 yes Jun 03 11:10:41 that's the 'j' in arm926ejs Jun 03 11:15:05 03koen 07 * r1.3484 10openembedded/packages/tslib/tslib-maemo/nokia770/tslib.sh: Add missing tslib.sh for tslib-maemo Jun 03 12:02:09 03pb 07 * r1.3485 10openembedded/packages/linux-hotplug/linux-hotplug_20040920.bb: fix some FILES Jun 03 12:09:25 I have an error while building gpe-image for tosa. Jun 03 12:09:30 line 444: syntax error near unexpected token `'INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP',' Jun 03 12:09:46 do you have a DISTRO? Jun 03 12:09:55 I see this mentioned as an error only after the build is done and while trying to boot the new image. Jun 03 12:10:11 I have distro set to openzaurus 3.5.4 Jun 03 12:10:17 ah Jun 03 12:10:25 with a space or as hyphen? Jun 03 12:11:05 DISTRO = "openzaurus=3.5.4" Jun 03 12:11:32 mmm... lunch Jun 03 12:11:39 CosmicPenguin: enjoy Jun 03 12:12:01 tpdd: try DISTRO="openzaurus-3.5.4" Jun 03 12:12:26 ya just saw the = sorry, thanks for the pointer Jun 03 12:13:13 the INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP usually means you don't have a package format (ipkg,rpm, etc) defined Jun 03 12:13:41 a missing/wrong DISTRO is 90% of the time the troublemaker Jun 03 12:15:06 in bitbake -i, filebuild will parse and build the specifies bb file Jun 03 12:15:12 without parsing the world? Jun 03 12:15:42 don't know, but you can do 'parse' when starting the shell Jun 03 12:16:16 yes, I am hoping I can use this mode to work on a bb file, without re-parsing the world every time I change something :) Jun 03 12:16:36 Crofton_: why not just use -b ? Jun 03 12:16:53 As long as the dependancies aren't changing you're good Jun 03 12:17:14 hmmm -h doesn't tell me what -b does :) Jun 03 12:17:25 -b specifies a specific .bb file to act on Jun 03 12:17:28 I'll try that too, -i barfed on me Jun 03 12:17:40 -b doesn't do deps Jun 03 12:17:53 As long as the dependancies aren't changing you're good Jun 03 12:17:58 :) Jun 03 12:18:06 Yeah, I should have all the deps built Jun 03 12:18:48 Crofton_: combine -b with -c for maximum effect - or better yet, use the shell - its better for development like that anyway... :) Jun 03 12:19:37 Anyone here know how to get software GLX on gpe-image? Jun 03 12:19:40 eg what to build/install Jun 03 12:20:49 a different xserver I guess Jun 03 12:21:15 it could be that kdrive supports glx, but you'll have to check that Jun 03 12:21:54 I was thinking some kind of module, since all the stuff like xrender seems to be seperate already Jun 03 12:22:53 last I heard kdrive doesn't support runtime module loading Jun 03 12:23:40 but better check that with the kdrive people Jun 03 12:23:57 what are these packages for, then? xauth, xtst, xdamage, xrandr, xcomposite Jun 03 12:24:21 userspace libs I guess Jun 03 12:24:24 for apps to use Jun 03 12:24:37 hrm :| Jun 03 12:24:58 try asking mallum or pb_, they know a lot more about X Jun 03 12:25:34 mallum: ping Jun 03 12:26:19 So, I had an annoying experience yesterday, I was building images, loading them into flash, only to then find out that old versions of packages were installed in the image. (i.e. foobar-3.0.14a-r0 instead of foobar-3.0.14a-r2). foobar--r2 is built, the ipk is in the deploy/ subdirectory... any idea on what I have to wipe to make sure the current version gets in the image? Jun 03 12:28:50 or maybe I was just dumb and loaded the wrong image Jun 03 12:30:14 that is starting to look more likely Jun 03 12:31:28 the problem is if you want an older version in the image Jun 03 12:32:25 damnit, why does 10* something have to be 10* more expensive too? Jun 03 12:32:41 cairo after 20050506 don't work, and attempts just cause problems ;) Jun 03 12:33:03 I've added a cairo snap today Jun 03 12:33:23 no more cvs madness Jun 03 12:33:37 koen: latest cairo versions cause issues w/ GPE Jun 03 12:33:43 I know Jun 03 12:34:39 also note that there isn't any cairo anymore in a gpe image nowadays Jun 03 12:34:46 oh? Jun 03 12:34:51 gpe-appmgr needs it... Jun 03 12:35:01 and where is that built? Jun 03 12:35:13 ? Jun 03 12:35:30 I've removed cairo + appmgr + bootsplash a few weeks ago Jun 03 12:35:39 you OE tree is a bit outdated Jun 03 12:35:41 why appmgr? Jun 03 12:35:46 03reenoo 07 * r1.3484.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gpgme/gpgme_1.0.0.bb: gpgme: inherit binconfig Jun 03 12:35:49 no, I don't use OE's gpe-image Jun 03 12:35:55 anyone know much about digital logic? Jun 03 12:35:58 a) it's broken b) it uses cairo Jun 03 12:36:11 broken how? works fine here Jun 03 12:36:18 mithro: 1 is good, 0 is bad? or more than that? Jun 03 12:36:20 rotate the diplay Jun 03 12:36:21 and what else manages the desktop? Jun 03 12:36:30 matchbox-desktop Jun 03 12:36:32 mithro: as usual pb_ is a good bet Jun 03 12:36:43 matchbox-desktop is ugly, IIRC Jun 03 12:36:45 well i wanted to know why you even need OR gates Jun 03 12:36:58 Ciao all Jun 03 12:37:05 Luke-Jr: it's as ugly as you make it Jun 03 12:37:07 hey Pigi Jun 03 12:37:21 koen: 1) rotate display... almost works fine Jun 03 12:37:31 almost = broken Jun 03 12:37:33 2) I never use anything other than wide rotation Jun 03 12:37:54 hey koen. I've compiled gpe with 0.9.0 as DISTRO, but the behavior is the same. Jun 03 12:38:02 koen: does X tell gpe-appmgr about the size change? Jun 03 12:38:11 Luke-Jr: yes, of course Jun 03 12:38:16 how? Jun 03 12:38:27 it can't be *too* hard to fix Jun 03 12:38:29 Pigi: what were the problem again? Jun 03 12:38:36 Luke-Jr: patches welcome Jun 03 12:38:49 koen: I'd need to know how appmgr is notified first ;) Jun 03 12:38:55 1) the button doesn't works apart for contact. Jun 03 12:39:30 Pigi: did you wipe tmp/deploy and flashed a new image? Jun 03 12:39:40 2) xterm doesn't close, unless I kill it ( not xkill, but kill -9 pid_of_xterm ... Jun 03 12:39:54 xkill can't really fail, can it? :o Jun 03 12:40:07 No, I never had that needing in all the other images build. Is that needed ? Jun 03 12:40:18 I wiped tmp btw Jun 03 12:40:25 tmp/work I mean. Jun 03 12:40:46 not deploy/ipk, nor deploy/images Jun 03 12:40:52 how else do you expect things to be downgraded? Jun 03 12:41:19 reenoo_, was that to me ? Jun 03 12:41:27 Pigi: yes Jun 03 12:41:33 Pigi: some xstuff needs to be downgraded Jun 03 12:41:41 Pigi: ipkg picks the latest by default Jun 03 12:41:55 well, ipkg-make-index -m moves old stuff away Jun 03 12:42:04 I wasn't really expecting to downgrade, as familiar 0.9.0 is more ahead that 0.8.2 isnt it ? Jun 03 12:42:51 oh blop. That's why the srec didn't get built. IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND only gets run once, not once for each of IMAGE_FSTYPES. Jun 03 12:43:31 Pigi: some x stuff broke, and when using "familiar" it built the lastest stuff Jun 03 12:43:59 that's the trick then. Gosh I should go again trough the whole build heh Jun 03 12:44:34 but I tought ( wrongly ) that familiar 0.9.0 has well defined versions. Jun 03 12:44:44 Btw there are a couple of error during build. Jun 03 12:44:46 it has Jun 03 12:44:55 but it can't beat ipkg-index -m Jun 03 12:45:01 I see. Jun 03 12:45:16 why not? =p Jun 03 12:45:55 you could argue that OE should check the versions at image creation times too Jun 03 12:46:03 * Luke-Jr nods Jun 03 12:46:23 koen, when building the gconf-dbus and gpe-plucker are missing some "ranlib" commands. Jun 03 12:46:36 is that bad? Jun 03 12:46:42 * koen has no idea what ranlib does Jun 03 12:47:16 not too much if you don't start the build before sleeping, whishing that the build has ended in the morning :) Jun 03 12:48:10 ~man ranlib Jun 03 12:48:18 ar -s Jun 03 12:48:47 koen, more or less. Jun 03 12:49:28 what I'm saying is that the build of those packages fails. Not a big trouble,but maybe someone would be interessed in fixing :) Jun 03 12:50:39 Hmm, it is important to use $(CXX) in a Makefile and not g++ :) Jun 03 12:54:36 Pigi: both build fine here. you say you've wiped tmp/work? that isn't really expected to work. best wipe all of tmp and rebuild. Jun 03 12:55:52 that would mean to rebuild the whoe crosschain. Jun 03 12:55:59 s/whoe/whole Jun 03 12:56:35 And that isn't really nice for my little pc. Jun 03 12:56:59 you'll have to kill the stamps too Jun 03 12:57:15 CosmicPenguin, done that Jun 03 12:57:30 heh - well, if you want to do the work... :) Jun 03 12:58:11 It's just matter of a good feeling with mc :) Jun 03 13:07:02 koen: do you want to run nxserver on your server? Jun 03 13:07:29 zecke: it's fine by me Jun 03 13:07:37 03pb 07 * r1.3485.1.1 10openembedded/packages/xserver/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 03 13:07:38 fix DEPENDS to cope with disappearing flex-2.5.4 Jun 03 13:07:38 add patches to work around staging-related CFLAGS issues Jun 03 13:07:39 tell me what to apt-get :) Jun 03 13:08:10 koen: let me find a 'feed' Jun 03 13:08:49 where is pb... doing bk but not here :| Jun 03 13:09:42 * CosmicPenguin is tired of merging in his p4 fetch stuff every time bitbake changes Jun 03 13:09:49 I guess I should push it up Jun 03 13:09:57 but I'm a lazy, lazy man roger Jun 03 13:10:58 zecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/rrd/graph/cpu_0_86400.png Jun 03 13:11:13 time to make it work a bit harder :) Jun 03 13:12:05 koen: apt-get install mc Jun 03 13:12:21 done Jun 03 13:12:39 zecke: you'll need to portforward with ssh Jun 03 13:12:55 on ssh + http get through the firewall Jun 03 13:13:13 s/on/only/ Jun 03 13:14:25 nx uses ssh anyway Jun 03 13:14:46 NOTE: package glibc-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17: task do_package: started Jun 03 13:14:56 * koen sits back and waits Jun 03 13:16:42 koen: I'm building for h3600 and the kernels fail Jun 03 13:17:05 eheh another one bit the dust ... :) Jun 03 13:17:31 zecke, where's failing ? Jun 03 13:17:31 I'm currently considering how to get my ssh keys onto your box to push my cset Jun 03 13:19:26 that's how I work Jun 03 13:21:07 gcc kernel 3.3.4 is built but we specify 3.3.3 in the .bb fles Jun 03 13:21:07 the machine with the keys run FreeBSD Jun 03 13:21:07 and I do not know how to mount my ext3 fs :} Jun 03 13:21:07 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/13307 might be useful Jun 03 13:22:24 zecke: -hh37.4 and -hh40 should build for sa. Jun 03 13:23:50 Luke-Jr: why not use ssh-copy*? Jun 03 13:24:40 zecke: mainly because I do things more hackish than necessary Jun 03 13:24:49 zecke: like using rm instead of bitbake -C Jun 03 13:25:24 Luke-Jr: for me rm is an alias for bitbake Jun 03 13:25:29 O.o Jun 03 13:27:09 Luke-Jr: hey Jun 03 13:27:25 Hi Jun 03 13:27:30 whats up ? Jun 03 13:27:44 mallum: do you know how I would go about getting GLX on gpe-image? Jun 03 13:28:29 Luke-Jr: well the first thing you'd need is mesa Jun 03 13:28:39 Luke-Jr: and some h/w accel Jun 03 13:29:09 mallum: Z would need to do s/w rendering... Jun 03 13:30:21 Luke-Jr: well then I think you would be going through alot of pain for probably something that wasn't usable at all Jun 03 13:30:57 Luke-Jr: Xegl, a fixed point cairo and a 320x240 fb and you may have some luck but I dunno Jun 03 13:31:05 mallum: even for a game that is designed to support software rendering? Jun 03 13:31:23 Luke-Jr: what game is it ? Jun 03 13:31:32 Armagetron Advanced Jun 03 13:32:12 reenoo_: and hostap is known broken? Jun 03 13:33:00 I filed a bug about some hostap thing. wpa-supplicant, probably. Jun 03 13:34:28 mallum: so there's no package I can build to get a GLX-capable X server? Jun 03 13:40:27 Luke-Jr: xserver-xorg Jun 03 13:43:20 hrm... and I thought Quake worked w/ the default X server :| Jun 03 13:43:36 sorry the ipaq_compat fix in hostap-modules is wrong Jun 03 13:43:38 sure - because memcpy is fast! Jun 03 13:43:43 it does not build with it for h3600 Jun 03 13:43:44 CosmicPenguin: ? Jun 03 13:44:00 Luke-Jr: never mind Jun 03 13:44:22 CosmicPenguin: It still uses GL Jun 03 13:53:16 zecke: any repo for nx yet? Jun 03 13:53:31 sorry I'm lost in the slab allocator Jun 03 13:53:58 as Opie is perfect it must be malloc guilty for all kind of errors and perfomance issues Jun 03 13:54:12 heh Jun 03 13:55:21 I agree Jun 03 13:55:39 CosmicPenguin: look at libumem of SUN/Solaris Jun 03 13:55:42 it looks nice Jun 03 13:57:30 koen: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2005-May/001240.html for the release notes Jun 03 13:59:23 no debs, only tarballs Jun 03 14:02:21 koen: http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=freenx&submit=Submit&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all Jun 03 14:02:26 toobad kalyxo is dead Jun 03 14:08:34 koen: OT: we could add ;md5=0307036308 now if we want Jun 03 14:09:58 zecke: cool Jun 03 14:10:07 keturn: you could always just define a srec.bbclass and inherit it too Jun 03 14:10:10 that would be a big problem solver Jun 03 14:10:17 have it create the srec after the do_image() stage Jun 03 14:11:08 koen: Evaluating can be done later Jun 03 14:11:29 zecke: NM keys, custom keys, or remove keys? Jun 03 14:12:23 NM or custom Jun 03 14:12:31 NM is a public 'private' key Jun 03 14:12:38 'public' private key Jun 03 14:12:41 nm it is Jun 03 14:13:04 ok, it's done Jun 03 14:29:47 any autoconf gurus handy? Jun 03 14:30:40 please stop hiding ... Jun 03 14:30:42 koen: where is the key? Jun 03 14:30:54 zecke: No idea Jun 03 14:31:08 gurus? no Jun 03 14:31:09 I have a configure.ac file containing AC_PROG_CXX_LINK_SO_LIB Jun 03 14:31:13 wannabe hacks - possibly Jun 03 14:31:34 But it seems to decide I can't do shared libraries Jun 03 14:32:38 zecke: I just did nxsetup --install --setup-nomachine-key Jun 03 14:34:00 ah the nx key Jun 03 14:38:41 'night all Jun 03 14:39:01 nite all Jun 03 14:51:33 Is it normal that bitbake parses the commented lines in conf files ? (lines beginning with '# ') Jun 03 14:51:58 aboeglin: yes it reads them Jun 03 14:52:03 but should discard them Jun 03 14:53:05 actually, if there is a tabulation or a whitespace before the first character, the line is parsed, even is the first character is a '#' Jun 03 14:53:13 CosmicPenguin: okay, I think I wrote srec.bbclass. What should inherit it? Jun 03 14:54:04 aboeglin: that could be Jun 03 14:54:11 but then the line does not begin with a # Jun 03 14:54:25 classpath: upgrade to 0.15 Jun 03 15:02:48 * keturn pretends the answer to his question is "the image .bb" Jun 03 15:03:00 for oe_runmake, the variable for extramake args is Jun 03 15:03:04 okay, it's in lib/bb/parse/ConfHandler.py on line 144... it looks specificly for '#' as the first character of the line ... I just can't guess why lines that contain spaces or tabs before the first '#' are not treated as comments ... Jun 03 15:03:07 OE_EXTRAMAKE? Jun 03 15:03:36 aboeglin: like a said if a line startsWith '#' it is discarded Jun 03 15:03:51 ' ' and '\t' are both not equal to # Jun 03 15:04:07 aboeglin: that is not nice but not a parser bug Jun 03 15:04:14 aboeglin: we might change it with bbc Jun 03 15:04:41 you crazy people and your porting things to C Jun 03 15:05:30 keturn: ? the benefits of bbc is having a grammar Jun 03 15:05:48 grammar am good. Jun 03 15:06:04 keturn: now with this Context Sensitive grammar I can write a lexer + parser in python, c, c++,... Jun 03 15:06:17 so nothing crazy is involved only Chomsky is Jun 03 15:06:25 OK it is EXTRA_OEMAKE Jun 03 15:06:38 zecke: Chomsky is not crazy? Jun 03 15:07:05 keturn: imaging a ',' between involved and only Jun 03 15:13:12 but here, simply using strip instead of rstrip would also ignore lines with leading spaces before the '#' Jun 03 15:13:39 aboeglin: you know how many lines we parse? Jun 03 15:13:55 aboeglin: you know strip can be expensive and possible introduce regressions as well? Jun 03 15:14:16 aboeglin: SRC_URI = " doo " # Jun 03 15:14:26 aboeglin: does not work either, bad but not too bad Jun 03 15:14:43 aboeglin: \t# could be discarded but is not, live with it for now Jun 03 15:19:06 * zecke took home some toy and forget the serial cable... Jun 03 15:20:40 ~bitbake-c Jun 03 15:32:51 keturn: anyone who needs srec would inherit it Jun 03 15:33:06 I'm sure its not a very big class right now, but we could define a few variables to flesh it out.. :) Jun 03 15:33:15 SREC_VMAADDR for example? Jun 03 15:34:01 Crofton_: Its sort of moot now, but I heard back that the DB1200 board draws less then .5A in yamon idle Jun 03 15:35:40 bleh. I made a changeset and committed it (but did not push it). How do I get a diff of that changeset which I can, say, put in bugzilla? Jun 03 15:36:12 I am less then a bitkeeper expert Jun 03 15:37:29 I'I'm trying "bk -r diffs -R 1.3177", but that exits with a broken pipe. :-/ Jun 03 15:37:44 /quit good night Jun 03 15:37:51 keturn: bk export -tpatch -r[cset number] Jun 03 15:38:02 the bk diffs command operates on files, not changesets Jun 03 15:38:13 its for looking at differences between revisions of a file Jun 03 15:43:00 what packet contains fsck.ext2? Jun 03 15:45:51 e2fsprogs Jun 03 15:47:01 kergoth: so, played with any scms lately? Jun 03 15:48:27 kergoth: hija Jun 03 15:51:11 keturn: what processor you playing with? Jun 03 15:51:16 can anyone point me to a reason for this error Jun 03 15:51:20 ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied Jun 03 15:52:14 CosmicPenguin: au1500, on a xxs1500 for the time being Jun 03 15:56:40 * CosmicPenguin hugs keturn Jun 03 15:57:06 I'm bouncing between a 1500 and a 1200 right now Jun 03 15:57:17 'night all Jun 03 15:58:00 I haven't really looked at the differences. The hardware guys had picked a chip before I signed on. Jun 03 15:58:44 The 1200 is on a different track - its more media oriented, the 1500/1550 is more network oriented Jun 03 16:44:05 hi guys! Jun 03 16:45:50 morning Jun 03 16:46:00 has anyone ever worked with a sonicblue progear frontpath tablet-pc? Jun 03 16:46:35 morning BigAl Jun 03 17:03:20 so if i follow the getting started docs and build a gpe-image, will that create the most current image, or is there a more current cvs location than the one mentioned in the getting started docs? Jun 03 17:05:17 tpdd: that depends on your DISTRIBUTION Jun 03 17:06:53 wtf, why do I get punished for answering questions Jun 03 17:07:18 I think 11 open windows is enough, no reason to create the 12th one just for you Jun 03 17:07:53 tpdd: what was your question? I didn't even dare to read it in the query Jun 03 17:09:20 zecke: I was wondering if using openzaurus-3.5.4 as DISTRIBUTION will give me the most current image for tosa Jun 03 17:09:47 no it hase a CVSDATE from last month set Jun 03 17:09:53 wtf is this whole poodle/sheeperd/collie distribution about? Jun 03 17:10:04 w3rwolf: thats the machine, not the distribution. Jun 03 17:10:08 ~poodle Jun 03 17:10:11 extra, extra, read all about it, poodle is sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog Jun 03 17:10:14 ~collie Jun 03 17:10:17 somebody said collie was sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog Jun 03 17:10:18 ~shepherd Jun 03 17:10:20 it has been said that shepherd is a Sharp Zaurus SL-C750, or a dog. Jun 03 17:10:29 thx :D Jun 03 17:10:31 that's sharp's internal naming for those machine types Jun 03 17:10:32 np Jun 03 17:10:35 tpdd: grep for CVSDATE in openzaurus-3.5.4.conf (openembedded/conf) Jun 03 18:04:11 Simon Pickering <-- who is that on IRC? Jun 03 18:04:38 tpdd: DISTRO = "openzaurus" will get latest stuff Jun 03 18:29:18 Err, I have a problem trying to enforce the cvs version of handhelds-pxa-2.6 : "preferred version handhelds-pxa-2.6-2.6.10-hh0+cvs20050604-r0 of handhelds-pxa-2.6 not available" although it is exactly what bbread gives me ... Jun 03 18:30:20 Okay, i'm stupid... I have to remove the package name from the version. Jun 03 18:41:07 No, still not good ... Jun 03 19:15:51 ola Jun 03 19:15:52 kergoth: hi Jun 03 20:03:37 are bashisms acceptable in .bb files? Jun 03 21:12:18 so is the 2.6 kernel working well with zaurus-6000 ? or is 2.4 the only way to go. Jun 03 21:14:19 tpdd: http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/ Jun 03 21:17:45 Luke-Jr: cool thanks man. Jun 03 22:50:33 good morning all Jun 03 22:50:58 good morning/night Jun 03 22:56:31 good evening, koen **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 03 23:59:56 2005