**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 14 23:59:56 2005 Jun 15 00:01:15 morning Jun 15 00:27:19 morning all Jun 15 00:28:40 morning RP Jun 15 01:35:10 morning Jun 15 01:36:15 hi hrw|work Jun 15 01:36:35 morning hrw|work Jun 15 01:46:52 hi hrw|work, RP, do13 Jun 15 01:49:41 ~nslookup home.hrw.one.pl Jun 15 01:49:47 home.hrw.one.pl is 192.168.1.134 Jun 15 01:49:55 ibot: gracias Jun 15 01:49:57 i guess gracias is thank you Jun 15 01:49:59 hi schurig Jun 15 01:50:03 hrw|work: hi! Jun 15 01:50:32 mickey|sports: bbimage has a bug, it creates the log.image_cmd.* and run.image_cmd.* files directly in TMPDIR Jun 15 01:51:19 hi schurig Jun 15 01:51:31 bluelightning: hiho Jun 15 01:52:00 ~nslookup home.hrw.one.pl Jun 15 01:52:02 home.hrw.one.pl is 62.21.36.51 Jun 15 01:52:35 noip works Jun 15 01:53:29 openwrt use busybox init.. it so simple that looks strange for me Jun 15 01:55:52 hrw|work: hey, I just see that you are also in Bitbake at Berlios. When you delete the line data.setVar('T', '${TMPDIR}', localdata) near the end of bitbake/bin/bbimage, then the log&run file will be created at the usual place Jun 15 01:58:58 moin Jun 15 01:59:52 schurig: you are not in devel list of bitbake? Jun 15 01:59:55 hi CoreDump|home Jun 15 02:00:02 hi CoreDump|home Jun 15 02:03:01 hrw|work: unfortunately not Jun 15 02:03:16 hrw|work: I didn't ask kergoth`zzz so far, when I'm online he's sleeping Jun 15 02:03:51 hrw|work: for OE itself, we have several "project managers" that can add users, but for bitbake he's the only one that can add people Jun 15 02:05:54 hi koen Jun 15 02:06:04 good morning all Jun 15 02:06:14 hey bluelightning Jun 15 02:06:15 hi koen Jun 15 02:06:24 hey RP Jun 15 02:06:53 hi koen Jun 15 02:06:56 schurig: ok - will look Jun 15 02:06:57 hey CoreDump|home Jun 15 02:09:40 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3523.1.1 10openembedded/packages/altboot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): altboot: Add a timeout on boot and only show the menu when requested Jun 15 02:10:10 who maintains network-suspend-scripts (no MAINTAINER set)? Jun 15 02:10:31 noone? Jun 15 02:11:24 I was wondering what /etc/default/usbd was intended to do (it's referred to by /etc/apm/scripts.d/usbnet) Jun 15 02:13:09 bluelightning: it keep name of usbd module on Zaurus Jun 15 02:13:22 sa1100_bi on collie, pxa_bi on pxa zauruses Jun 15 02:14:02 is sa1100usb_core also used on collie? Jun 15 02:14:30 no Jun 15 02:14:44 hmm ok Jun 15 02:15:51 I wonder if that script needs to be reworked a bit... currently I'm looking at how to change it to handle g_ether on pxa iPAQs, and it would seem to me that some editable script like /etc/default/usbd would be the way to choose what module to use (g_ether or usb-eth) Jun 15 02:15:52 03hrw * r254 10bitbake/bin/bbimage: Keep all temporary files in proper place not in TMPDIR (patch by Holger Schurig) Jun 15 02:16:16 obviously I don't want any patch to screw it up for zaurus users either Jun 15 02:16:53 bluelightning: under 2.6 g_ether survive suspend/resume (atleast on Z) Jun 15 02:17:12 no network-suspend-scripts are not needed Jun 15 02:17:40 s/^no/so Jun 15 02:17:43 with 2.4 the ported g_ether is often non-functional on my h3970 Jun 15 02:17:54 non-functional after resume, I mean Jun 15 02:18:02 unloading it and loading it fixes that Jun 15 02:18:07 aha Jun 15 02:18:21 usb gadget backport to 2.4.. nice Jun 15 02:18:41 yeah, it works well, especially to be able to connect to WinXP for those who want that Jun 15 02:39:22 hi pb Jun 15 02:39:51 hi hrw|work Jun 15 02:39:58 morning all Jun 15 02:40:56 morning all Jun 15 02:41:07 hi ade|desk, pb_ Jun 15 02:56:29 mickey|sports: bitbake interactive lack "get" Jun 15 02:56:36 getvar even Jun 15 02:56:56 ops.. there is a print.. Jun 15 02:57:36 ya, there's print Jun 15 02:57:39 morning, btw. Jun 15 02:57:59 NOTE: [11:54] package gcc-cross-4.0.0: failed Jun 15 02:58:02 BB>> print PREFFERED_VERSION_gcc-cross Jun 15 02:58:02 3.4.4 Jun 15 02:58:28 hey mickeyl Jun 15 02:58:28 03koen 07 * r1.3535 10openembedded/packages/maemo/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Jun 15 02:58:29 Many meamo files: source -> ., courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 02:58:29 Add gconf-osso, part of the maemo.org suite, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 02:58:31 03koen 07 * r1.3534 10openembedded/packages/base-files/ (base-files_3.0.14.bb base-files/nokia770/fstab): base-files_3.0.14.bb: support nokia770, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 02:58:59 mickeyl: good morning Jun 15 02:59:01 ~lart me Jun 15 02:59:02 * ibot whips out a sword and chops hrw|work in half Jun 15 03:03:13 mickeyl: can getvar be alias to print? Jun 15 03:03:36 hrw|work: sure. Jun 15 03:03:44 while we are talking about that... Jun 15 03:03:56 hi mickeyl Jun 15 03:04:00 setvar/getvar deals with outer env. variables Jun 15 03:04:06 how to deal with package specific data ? Jun 15 03:04:09 pkggetvar? Jun 15 03:04:30 doens't look good to me Jun 15 03:04:31 no idea - didtn had to tweak them Jun 15 03:04:59 in my tree, i have made print to work with package data Jun 15 03:05:09 print nano do_package Jun 15 03:05:37 i may do it with 'peek' and 'poke' Jun 15 03:05:41 as a reminiscent to the old C64 days Jun 15 03:05:42 heh Jun 15 03:05:47 heh Jun 15 03:06:03 mickeyl: to old PET2001 days Jun 15 03:06:12 old 8bit BASIC days Jun 15 03:06:14 that one was earlier with peek and poke Jun 15 03:06:15 right from PET over VIC20 to C64 Jun 15 03:06:36 I guess you should make "sys 49152" do something exciting, in that case. Jun 15 03:06:49 sys 6502,n was also nice Jun 15 03:06:53 not sure what, maybe display an ascii art picture of kergoth or something. Jun 15 03:07:03 heh Jun 15 03:07:13 wasn't it ? sys 64738 ? Jun 15 03:07:16 to reboot Jun 15 03:07:34 ah yes, right Jun 15 03:07:49 49152 was the base address for the gfx controller if I remember correctly Jun 15 03:08:00 long time ago Jun 15 03:08:15 mickeyl: sys 6502,n printed some text n-times out, I think it was Microsoft or Basic or something Jun 15 03:14:58 I have a package which wants to use makeinfo and latex in its Makefile, now some people will have these available, some won't (like me) Jun 15 03:15:15 I suppose I should add these as -native packages and make then DEPENDS? Jun 15 03:15:17 if its just for docs, disable it Jun 15 03:15:23 ah, ok Jun 15 03:15:27 phew ;) Jun 15 03:15:49 yeah, native latex might be too much. Jun 15 03:16:13 if you'd like to have a go at adding it, though, feel free. Jun 15 03:17:43 hello, anyone can explain what is the meaning of "INHERIT"? Jun 15 03:18:36 it contains a list of classes to be inherited. Jun 15 03:19:05 pb_: hmm, got a few things to sort out first ;) Jun 15 03:19:15 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3536 10openembedded/packages/mathomatic/ (mathomatic_unstable.bb mathomatic_12.4.2.bb mathomatic.inc): add mathomatic, a small, portable, general purpose CAS. Patch courtesy Simon Pickering Jun 15 03:19:24 thx mickeyl Jun 15 03:19:37 np. can you clos the bug? Jun 15 03:19:40 close even Jun 15 03:19:50 pb_, thx Jun 15 03:20:11 yep - give me a tick to work out how Jun 15 03:20:32 mickeyl: you should be able to close the bug yourself Jun 15 03:21:04 change it to 'fixed'? Jun 15 03:21:09 right Jun 15 03:21:18 pb_: sure i am... i wanted to delegate that though ;) Jun 15 03:21:24 ah, heh Jun 15 03:21:44 lardman|work: take a look at the changeset, i've added a .inc for the similarities Jun 15 03:22:28 ok, sorry about that - I've got a few different bbs in various states of finishedness and wanted to get that one out so I could forget about it Jun 15 03:22:46 np, just a recommendation for similar cases in the future Jun 15 03:22:52 I think I've closed it now, takes enough different stages though! Jun 15 03:23:03 pb_: i'm getting to like bugzilla Jun 15 03:23:39 i had my reservations, but once you get started it turns out nice Jun 15 03:24:57 lardman|work: just marking it as RESOLVED FIXED is sufficient. Jun 15 03:25:19 there is no need to change it from RESOLVED to CLOSED. Jun 15 03:25:32 pb_: ok Jun 15 03:25:37 mickeyl: excellent :-) Jun 15 03:26:50 pb_: wrt xlibs and dietx, is there a way of making the full-fat ones a DEPEND rather than whichever the user is building with (as diet won't work)? Jun 15 03:29:36 Or should I just add a comment to the .bb which someone will presumably read if it won't build? Jun 15 03:30:19 lardman|work: not at the moment. that's a bit of a hole in our xlibs packaging. Jun 15 03:31:05 pb_: I'll add the comment then Jun 15 03:32:11 righto Jun 15 03:39:33 heh... microsoft have router/AP powered by WinCE... Jun 15 03:47:50 mickey|lunch: mathomatic looks cool Jun 15 03:47:57 (for a console app ...) Jun 15 03:50:41 I thought it looked interesting Jun 15 03:51:06 How can one perform patching after configure has been run? Jun 15 03:51:13 (just out of interest) Jun 15 03:51:47 lardman|work: addtask extrapatching after configure and do_extrapatching() { .... } Jun 15 03:52:00 ok, cool Jun 15 03:52:00 "addtask extrapatching after configure" Jun 15 03:52:28 hmm.. gcc-cross 3.4.4 failed for wrt54 ;( Jun 15 03:54:07 I think you need "addtask extrapatching after do_configure before do_compile" or some such. Jun 15 03:55:33 03koen 07 * r1.3537 10openembedded/packages/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Jun 15 03:55:33 sapwood_1.20-1.bb: extra install_append, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 03:55:33 osso-gnome-vfs2_2.8.4.4-1.bb: adjust depends, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 03:55:33 Many files: added, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 03:55:33 hildon-libs_0.9.6-2.bb: adjust staging, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 03:58:52 mickey|lunch: http://pastebin.ca/14610 Jun 15 03:59:46 mickey|lunch: in other words: bug #88 strikes back Jun 15 04:14:33 mickey|lunch: http://pastebin.com/299783 - bitbake -i failed when had to post large log Jun 15 04:23:40 keturn: ping Jun 15 04:27:36 how to get gcc-cross build for mipsel? Jun 15 04:27:45 mipsel/uclibc Jun 15 04:38:14 someone built gcc-cross 3.4.4 with uclibc recently? Jun 15 04:38:56 grr fecking xerox, lo all btw Jun 15 04:39:06 morning ade Jun 15 04:39:47 http://www.hrw.one.pl/_pliki/oe/tmp/gcc-cross-mipsel-uclibc.error.txt is my error output which I got when trying to build Jun 15 04:44:16 hrw|work: i seem to remember something on the uclibc ml about 3.4.4 and mips ... but can't find it atm Jun 15 04:44:22 will keep looking Jun 15 04:44:54 I can test 3.4.3 Jun 15 04:46:36 i know that 3.4.2 is a working one Jun 15 04:47:57 uclibc 0.9.27 or svn btw ? Jun 15 04:48:04 0.9.27 Jun 15 04:48:10 righty ho Jun 15 04:48:22 I want to get builddir for my wrt54gs Jun 15 04:49:09 openwrt use 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 Jun 15 04:49:11 ah the openwrt OE'ed Jun 15 04:49:40 hmm ok will search uclibc ml harder then ;) Jun 15 04:51:24 not quite OE'ed.. they use own buildsystem Jun 15 04:51:43 hi guys Jun 15 04:54:20 i'm having a problem with bitbake (gcc-cross and opie-image for now) - the flex-native-2.5.31 package is missing (404) - what mirror should i specify for it? Jun 15 04:55:51 heanet? Jun 15 04:56:26 it is default one, it has flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2 archive (just downloaded to test) Jun 15 05:00:30 hrw|work: so instead of GNU_MIRROR = "ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu" in local.conf it will be "ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.gnu.org/"? (that dir looks empty to me) Jun 15 05:01:54 flex will be fetched from sourceforge Jun 15 05:04:10 Archer: flex is from SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR Jun 15 05:05:24 hrw|work: do you have gcc-cross-initial ? Jun 15 05:05:56 ade|desk: yes Jun 15 05:06:58 what do I do after bitbake opie-image finishes to make an initrd.bin and a zImage? Jun 15 05:07:03 hrw|work: thanks - trying with ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/download.sourceforge.net/ Jun 15 05:07:43 I've got two scripts in /stuff/build/tmp: run.image_cmd.30422 run.image_cmd.30425 Jun 15 05:07:57 jumpkick_: if i'm not mistaken the zImage is the kernel image - you need to transfer them to the device/board somehow (i've just started so I don't know any more) Jun 15 05:08:40 Archer: remove SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR setting from your local.conf and it will work Jun 15 05:08:46 hrw|work: have you tried without make -j 4 ? Jun 15 05:08:50 jumpkick_: ignore Jun 15 05:08:53 ade|desk: not yet Jun 15 05:09:36 ade|desk: rebuilding... Jun 15 05:10:00 ignore? Jun 15 05:10:14 sec Jun 15 05:10:22 think I found it in deploy.... Jun 15 05:10:57 jumpkick_: recent bitbake put that files in correct place now Jun 15 05:10:58 looks too small though: -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 9.7M 2005-06-14 23:26 opie-image-collie-20050613055205.rootfs.tar.bz2 Jun 15 05:11:23 nevermind Jun 15 05:11:28 the one above it is 14M Jun 15 05:11:31 good stuff Jun 15 05:11:42 jumpkick_: jffs2 are padded Jun 15 05:12:07 gotya, so the padding compresses really well I'd guess then Jun 15 05:13:57 its 0 Jun 15 05:14:06 initrds need to be ext2.gz or cramfs Jun 15 05:16:38 ade|desk: same ;( Jun 15 05:18:22 ok, am getting an OE tree atm, will then take a look at making a mipsel toolchain Jun 15 05:19:45 thx ade Jun 15 05:22:26 this may take some time... am at the wrong office today for this sort of thing :( Jun 15 05:22:36 happens Jun 15 05:22:41 I can wait Jun 15 05:22:52 have router to configure ;) Jun 15 05:22:56 days at this rate Jun 15 05:23:13 * jumpkick_ nerviously waits for his opie-image to finish flashing.... Jun 15 05:24:11 oh dear packages/opie could take a while Jun 15 05:27:30 * jumpkick_ boots it Jun 15 05:28:21 wooohooo! Jun 15 05:40:09 hmm... doesn't mount SD... :( Jun 15 05:40:39 hangs in /bin/sh /etc/sdcontrol insert Jun 15 05:41:15 gotta go to work... Jun 15 06:04:31 hrw|work: removed the sourceforge declaration, but it still tries to get flex from oesources.org Jun 15 06:04:50 Archer: a... Jun 15 06:05:13 Archer: why you didnt said that on start... Jun 15 06:05:18 should I'll try with ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/download.sourceforge.net/sourceforge Jun 15 06:05:18 ? Jun 15 06:05:42 you can comment CVS_TARBALL_STASH so it will be fetched from upstream location not from our source mirror Jun 15 06:05:46 keturn: hi Jun 15 06:05:48 kergoth: hi Jun 15 06:06:04 kergoth: can you add schurig to bitbake at berlios? Jun 15 06:06:16 kergoth: hi! Jun 15 06:06:23 hey Jun 15 06:06:40 been a long time since i've woken up at 8am. Jun 15 06:06:42 * kergoth yawns Jun 15 06:07:24 hrw|work: trying Jun 15 06:11:08 schurig: whats your berlios username? Jun 15 06:11:17 kergoth: holgerschurig Jun 15 06:11:21 k Jun 15 06:12:27 good morning kergoth Jun 15 06:14:41 keturn: ping Jun 15 06:44:08 hrw|work: sorry for the delay .. still getting gcc Jun 15 06:44:32 ade|desk: no problem Jun 15 06:44:50 heh.. my network cards does not support WOL :( Jun 15 06:45:11 will have to enable via-rhine one (onboard) and check does it support wol Jun 15 06:45:17 hi kergoth Jun 15 06:45:27 hrw|work: why do you need WOL ? Jun 15 06:47:01 ade|desk: I can remote login to my router so if I will need to have my home machine working then ssh router, wake home machine Jun 15 06:47:40 ah groovy Jun 15 06:49:28 hrw|work: flex is still still missing (even with CVS_TARBALL_STASH commented) - actual dl location is mesh.dl.sf.net Jun 15 06:56:36 Archer: how you set mesh? Jun 15 06:56:50 mesh? Jun 15 06:57:20 Archer: why not just download it from debian or some such and put it in your sources/ Jun 15 06:57:54 mesh seems to be the default here.. Jun 15 06:58:00 a sec.. Jun 15 07:01:40 http://rafb.net/paste/results/41zkVf40.html Jun 15 07:03:38 MACHINE = "tune-xscale" Jun 15 07:03:43 nice one ;) Jun 15 07:04:47 Archer: I see. Jun 15 07:05:25 03zecke123 * r255 10bitbake/ (MANIFEST TODO lib/bb/data_dict.py): Jun 15 07:05:25 BitBake (minor update): Jun 15 07:05:25 -Remove data_dict.py as it was not needed for sooo long Jun 15 07:05:25 -Remove TODOs related to data_dict.py Jun 15 07:05:25 -Remove data_dict from the MANIFEST Jun 15 07:05:49 rFF Jun 15 07:07:02 hrw|work: it's a pretty bare arm board - at first i'd just be curious if th fbdev is recognized and it it loads anything Jun 15 07:07:46 should i change it to something else? Jun 15 07:08:19 grab http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lex/flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2 and place in DL_DIR Jun 15 07:08:33 I will push change in few minutes Jun 15 07:11:42 Is there a list somewhere of the allowable SECTION sections? Jun 15 07:13:27 lardman|work: ipkgfind.handhelds.org Jun 15 07:13:42 the sections are on your left Jun 15 07:15:38 03koen 07 * r1.3538 10openembedded/ (4 files in 3 dirs): osso-af-startup_0.28-1.bb: remove -oknodo, courtesy Florian Boor Jun 15 07:17:02 03hrw 07 * r1.3537.1.1 10openembedded/packages/flex/flex.inc: flex: changed SRC_URI back to SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR as mesh.dl.sf.net does not have file Jun 15 07:17:42 Archer: with that change flex is fetchable Jun 15 07:18:32 nice - should i run update bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/openembedded to get it? Jun 15 07:20:32 change the first openembedded into oe-devel Jun 15 07:20:44 or wait an hour till the repo's get synced :) Jun 15 07:21:22 i'll go with the devel ver ;) Jun 15 07:23:59 done - well, fingers crossed... Jun 15 07:34:58 What's the flag to pass to make which means variables outside of the Makefile take priority? -s? Jun 15 07:35:06 -e Jun 15 07:35:11 thx Jun 15 07:35:20 np Jun 15 07:39:57 hrw|work: grr went away for a bit .. bloody well got gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1 being built .. oops Jun 15 07:49:58 people are never satisified Jun 15 07:51:05 so true Jun 15 07:52:20 hrw|work: ok 3.4.4 started now Jun 15 07:52:45 cool Jun 15 07:52:59 may take a while on this laptop Jun 15 07:53:11 ( in a vmware session) Jun 15 07:53:38 pb_: When I get some breathing room, I'll merge in some of my x-compile hacks for xserver-xorg Jun 15 07:55:29 I was in the midst of xserver-xorg working (I had been using my own homebrew xorg for a while now) when I was distracted by other things Jun 15 07:58:02 CosmicPenguin: ah, cool. Jun 15 07:58:22 I patched up 6.8.99.10 well enough to make it work in my i686 -> i586 "cross", but I suspect there are still some bits that aren't right. Jun 15 07:59:02 hrw|work: right i now have the same error, good start :) Jun 15 07:59:08 I know that some guy was having trouble compiling it on ARM the other day. I think that was because his compiler was choking on x86 assembler code in one of the drivers. Jun 15 07:59:43 heh Jun 15 08:00:04 Yeah, I'm not making that big a leap either - just x86_64 -> 486 Jun 15 08:00:32 ade|desk: ;) Jun 15 08:11:35 hrw|work: seen http://buildroot.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/buildroot/toolchain/gcc/3.4.4/602-sdk-libstdc%2B%2B-includes.patch?rev=10397&view=markup Jun 15 08:13:33 ade|desk: it should help? Jun 15 08:14:04 well i cant see the patch for this in oe ... maybe i am not looking correctly Jun 15 08:16:17 ade|desk: sdk-libstdc++-includes.patch in packages/gcc/gcc-3.4.4/ Jun 15 08:16:50 ade|desk: but it is used only in 3.3.4 Jun 15 08:17:57 sorry .. its just that it seems not to find the headers properly Jun 15 08:18:55 maybe it should be added into gcc 3.4.4 also - I dont know Jun 15 08:20:12 hrw|work: i need to travel home now... will take a better look tomorrow Jun 15 08:20:25 ok Jun 15 08:20:31 I will do test at home Jun 15 08:25:03 bye Jun 15 09:44:41 pb_: where can I find valid -mtune params for gcc? Jun 15 09:44:55 I think I screwed up the arm926ejs one Jun 15 09:47:42 I think there's documentation in the code somehwere Jun 15 09:48:24 I was hoping for online list, but source will do Jun 15 09:48:27 * koen|tv fires up vi Jun 15 09:48:33 koen|tv: in the manual Jun 15 09:49:08 http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.0.0/gcc/ARM-Options.html#ARM-Options Jun 15 09:49:19 thanks Jun 15 09:51:13 aha Jun 15 09:51:27 arm926ej-s instead of arm926ejs Jun 15 09:51:28 mmmm, iwmmxt Jun 15 09:51:38 I wonder if that does anything yet Jun 15 09:52:04 iirc that doesn't work on hardfloat Jun 15 09:52:15 I think it just enables the wMMX intrinsics. Jun 15 09:53:34 afaik, gcc doesn't have any ability to vectorize code yet (though there is some work going on in that area for other platforms) Jun 15 09:58:24 ah Jun 15 10:00:23 03koen 07 * r1.3540 10openembedded/conf/machine/tune-arm926ejs.conf: tune-arm926ejs.conf: fix typo in mtune parameter Jun 15 10:01:36 this reminds me of a crazy idea I had Jun 15 10:02:01 what would be involved in booting an ipaq to linux in big-endian mode? Jun 15 10:03:40 could it be as simple as a modified version of haret ? Jun 15 10:07:31 well, the trouble is that all the I/O would be screwed up. Jun 15 10:08:12 other than that, yeah, you could just tweak haret to flip into big-endian mode before booting the kernel. Jun 15 10:10:02 pb_, which I/O ? I figured I was missing something, but I don't quite understand Jun 15 10:10:39 jacmet has successfully booted the nslu2 in LE mode Jun 15 10:12:06 jacques: iirc, any peripherals that are less than 32 bits wide will be wired up wrongly. Jun 15 10:12:25 ah ok, that sounds serious Jun 15 10:12:31 it's quite likely that the nslu2 just doesn't have any of those. Jun 15 10:12:49 you might get away with it on some ipaqs as well, but on the h5400 for example I think you would be in trouble with the graphics controller. Jun 15 10:13:06 which ones can you think of off-hand for the ipaq ? (ok you already said graphics) Jun 15 10:13:34 sleeve, possibly. maybe the asics on some of them. Jun 15 10:14:02 I don't remember exactly what the impact is of endian switching, though, so I could well be wrong. I'd have to look it up. Jun 15 10:14:07 hmm, sleeve would be bad - I was thinking about using the h5550 for this Jun 15 10:14:30 essentially turn it into an nslu2 on steriods Jun 15 10:14:35 steroids Jun 15 10:14:43 heh Jun 15 10:14:50 but I'd need to be able to use my pcmcia ide adaptor Jun 15 10:15:05 I should break out my nslu2 again. I'd like to use it as a print server. Jun 15 10:15:20 I guess it shouldn't be too hard to make CUPS run on there. Jun 15 10:15:25 really, all I'd need to work is serial, usb (usbnet), and pcmcia Jun 15 10:15:41 right Jun 15 10:15:50 well, you could give it a go. it'd be easy enough to make a hacked haret. Jun 15 10:16:01 well, wifi would be nice too, but certainly not required Jun 15 10:16:49 pb_, I think I shall try it :-) it may take me a day or two to get setup to build haret, but I really wanna try this Jun 15 10:17:40 cool Jun 15 10:17:43 let me know how you get on Jun 15 10:17:51 is BE faster on arm? Jun 15 10:18:04 pb_, count on it :-) Jun 15 10:18:09 for applications that are naturally big endian, yes Jun 15 10:18:21 the arm itself is endian neutral Jun 15 10:25:48 ere Jun 15 10:28:12 hi hrw Jun 15 10:28:19 I'm using gcc 3.4.3 here Jun 15 10:28:40 keturn: I had it failed Jun 15 10:43:18 hi zecke Jun 15 10:52:47 bye Jun 15 11:48:07 what argument do you use with oe_libinstall? Jun 15 11:48:19 good question Jun 15 11:48:28 heh Jun 15 11:48:45 grep oe_libinstall */*bb Jun 15 11:49:02 Crofton: that is what I do Jun 15 12:01:29 http://pastebin.ca/14667 Jun 15 12:01:46 Any thoughts on how to make oe_libinstall not barf like this? Jun 15 12:02:31 03koen 07 * r1.3541 10openembedded/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: familiar-0.8.3.conf: 0.9.0 -> 0.8.3, as keenly spotted by Erik Hovland Jun 15 12:03:04 Crofton: what oe_install command line did you use? Jun 15 12:04:09 e_libinstall -so host/lib/.libs/libusrp ${STAGING_LIBDIR} Jun 15 12:04:24 I really only want the shared lib .... Jun 15 12:04:36 you forgot -C before the path Jun 15 12:04:50 oe_libinstall -so -C host/lib/.libs libusrp ${STAGING_LIBDIR} Jun 15 12:04:55 err, -C host/lib that is Jun 15 12:05:06 what does -C do? Jun 15 12:05:14 specifies a path. Jun 15 12:05:21 without that, it looks in the current directory Jun 15 12:05:23 heh Jun 15 12:05:47 grep oe_libinstall */*.bb is not the best way to figure things out :) Jun 15 12:05:49 Thanks Jun 15 12:05:56 hm? Jun 15 12:06:04 all the examples use correct syntax. yours doesnt Jun 15 12:06:11 heh Jun 15 12:06:24 regardless, i'm pretty sure the syntax is covered in comments at hte beginning of hte script, in base.bbclass Jun 15 12:06:25 Well, I didn't understand the -C, so I left it out :) Jun 15 12:06:49 hi Jun 15 12:07:36 qpe-gaim looks like working with irc. Jun 15 12:13:11 Thanks guys, that did the trick Jun 15 12:13:25 Do we have anywhere on the wiki we can collect stuff like that? Jun 15 12:15:17 theres something of an oe users manual in the wiki Jun 15 12:15:19 belongs in that Jun 15 12:30:39 Evening. Jun 15 12:31:31 evening SirFred Jun 15 12:32:09 RP: Hi. Jun 15 12:34:11 RP: Did you had time to work in the quest for the holy w100 decoding? Jun 15 12:34:45 SirFred: No :-(. I've found another kernel bug I'm chasing :-( Jun 15 12:34:47 RP: I've found interesting things about the odd performance with the sysinfo gfx benchmark in opie. Jun 15 12:35:15 SirFred: What kind of interesting things? Jun 15 12:35:23 RP, wow, how many have you fixed in the last two weeks? Jun 15 12:35:34 RP: I've copied that bench code to another program to perform text rendering, line drawing, rect filling, arc drawing and pixmap blitting but not in a combined way. Jun 15 12:35:55 RP: Well, the arc drawing is what is lowering the mean value for w100. Jun 15 12:36:20 RP: With the software driver, I'm getting 387 arcs/sec, with the hardware one, 57 arcs/sec Jun 15 12:36:44 SirFred: Right, that makes sense as it will be lots of small lines which have a lot of hardware setup costs Jun 15 12:36:55 RP: Line drawing gives 5128 lines/sec with the software driver and 7194 lines/sec with the hardware one. Jun 15 12:37:14 SirFred: We probably want to set a minimum line length below which we use the software rendering Jun 15 12:37:42 RP: Rect filling is 271 rects/sec in software against 533 rects/sec in hardware. Pixmap drawing is more or less the same, because the reference pixmap has transparent background and so, only software blitting can be made by now. Jun 15 12:38:11 RP: I'm suspecting that perhaps the problem is that AtiCore_DrawPoint is used while drawing arcs. Jun 15 12:38:17 Ok, at least that all makes sense Jun 15 12:38:33 RP: So, the performance is better, but with the arc drawing anomaly. Jun 15 12:38:49 SirFred: I think that will be related to the line length Jun 15 12:39:08 why does my bitbake fail, what is quilt-native and what does it have to do with ppp? http://24.110.54.195/errors/bitbake-ppp.err Jun 15 12:39:14 SirFred: I'm also hopeful once we write a better engine for the core ati code, that will also boost performance Jun 15 12:39:20 RP: Humm, it's an arc, a circle arc. I suppose it must be rendered using points. Jun 15 12:40:12 RP: I didn't have time to look at it deeper, but I would bet my faith to it. Jun 15 12:40:48 SirFred: Try having it use software instead of hardware for line lengths less than say 4 pixels Jun 15 12:41:09 stealth: quilt manages patches Jun 15 12:41:20 stealth: and it failed to fetch according to your logs Jun 15 12:41:49 RP: I'll try. I'm making some changes in the qte driver to be able to enable/disable some accelerated opcodes using environment variables. Jun 15 12:42:02 RP: So it will be easy to compare results. Jun 15 12:42:14 SirFred: That sounds good Jun 15 12:42:30 where can I find quilt? Jun 15 12:42:42 stealth: check the src_uri Jun 15 12:42:55 RP: iDCT would be a different beast, right? Jun 15 12:43:05 yea I did, the url is broke Jun 15 12:44:11 Crofton: I fixed a typo in tune-arm926.conf Jun 15 12:44:14 koen|tv: We need an example of its usage Jun 15 12:44:22 Crofton: sorry if I broke it earlier Jun 15 12:44:42 RP: the mplayer stuff is closed source? Jun 15 12:44:54 acctually its not in src_uri Jun 15 12:44:58 koen|tv: That have iDCT code in mplayer? Jun 15 12:44:59 The copy I have seems OK now Jun 15 12:45:08 thansk for the warning Jun 15 12:45:15 As long as I know, mplayer is not using hardware iDCT. Jun 15 12:45:22 It's only using overlay. Jun 15 12:45:23 damn Jun 15 12:45:41 I make some example usage for overlay, but I never got an stable image. Jun 15 12:45:48 that's what I thought as well... Jun 15 12:45:55 Perhaps changing fastsysclk value... Jun 15 12:46:04 SirFred: That would make a difference Jun 15 12:46:23 iDCT should be great. Jun 15 12:46:28 Dawn ATI Jun 15 12:46:48 We should demand them for selling as I think that we are not able to use. Jun 15 12:46:52 stealth: quilt is a tool to apply patches Jun 15 12:46:57 s/as/us Jun 15 12:47:00 stealth: OpenEmbedded use it to apply patches Jun 15 12:47:12 stealth: you can not connect to savannah because you're firewalled Jun 15 12:48:03 i connect but it says its not found Jun 15 12:48:59 My english is improving fast. :-P Jun 15 12:49:56 SirFred: indeed :) Jun 15 12:54:25 stealth: that is not what the log says Jun 15 12:55:05 I can read http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/quilt/ from my browser, can i just download a version and drop it in somehwhere? Jun 15 12:56:00 In case anyone cares, I can confirm 2.6.12-rc6-mm1 has a suspend/resume bug :-( Jun 15 12:56:06 NOTE: fetch http://www.treke.net/oe/source/quilt_savannah.nongnu.org_VER_0_39_.tar.gz Jun 15 12:56:09 NOTE: Fetch cvs://anoncvs:@savannah.nongnu.org/cvsroot/quilt;method=ext;rsh=ssh;module=quilt;tag=VER_0_39 Jun 15 12:56:16 RP: from the well-duh department... :) Jun 15 12:56:17 1) wrong tarball stash Jun 15 12:56:21 2) http != cvs Jun 15 12:56:29 RP: damn Jun 15 12:57:26 i know http != cvs, but im just saying I dont think my firewall is the problem Jun 15 12:57:54 stealth: well then... Jun 15 13:08:45 ...? Jun 15 13:10:17 quick question - how do I regenerate deploy/ipk/Packages ? Jun 15 13:10:43 ipkg-make-index -p Packages -m . Jun 15 13:10:51 or bitbake bootstrap-image Jun 15 13:14:35 evening Jun 15 13:16:26 no matter what i try to build (bitbake nano) I get the quilt failure :( Jun 15 13:16:58 stealth: no matter what I write, you know better Jun 15 13:17:10 huh? Jun 15 13:17:25 stealth: it fails to fetch quilt, quilt is essential for OpenEmbedded to apply patches Jun 15 13:17:37 yea it fails, how can I fix it Jun 15 13:17:52 stealth: look at what I wrote Jun 15 13:18:13 you re wrote the error? Jun 15 13:18:49 koen: thanks Jun 15 13:19:25 what file is specifying the cvs commands/url Jun 15 13:19:57 stealth: your freaking firewalled, or behind a broken router (ECN)... Jun 15 13:20:06 naa Jun 15 13:20:07 stealth: and your tarball stash is wrong Jun 15 13:20:15 stealth: but now I'm going to charge you Jun 15 13:20:20 pff Jun 15 13:20:20 stealth: you made me repeat... Jun 15 13:20:58 zecke: or he suffered the ssh timeout bug Jun 15 13:21:17 stealth: www.treke.net/oe/sources no longer exists. Update your local.conf - look at the sample one Jun 15 13:21:36 zecke: which can be fixed by doing 'ssh savannah.gnu.org' Jun 15 13:21:52 don Jun 15 13:21:56 stealth: That is not your only problem as cvs doesn't seem able to check anything out Jun 15 13:21:56 't tell me Jun 15 13:22:14 stealth: so listen to what koen is saying ;-) Jun 15 13:22:16 speaking of weird errors, anyone seen this while trying to build gnu-config-native ? Jun 15 13:22:19 Replacing patch config-guess-uclibc.patch with new version Jun 15 13:22:19 cp: cannot create regular file `patches/config-guess-uclibc.patch': Permission denied Jun 15 13:22:40 jacques: what is the file permission on that file? Jun 15 13:23:14 zecke I get this error after totally deleting tmp Jun 15 13:23:24 lol Jun 15 13:23:32 jacques: that is really weird Jun 15 13:23:44 I have one machine that has been doing this for several months now - all my others (about four) are fine Jun 15 13:24:08 I tried deleting and re-cloning openembedded, new bitbake, new pythong Jun 15 13:24:19 cleared .ccache, deleted sources dir Jun 15 13:24:20 jacques: tar that directory, `env` and send it to me Jun 15 13:25:13 zecke which dir? tmp/work/gnu-config-native-0.1cvs20050523-r3/ ? Jun 15 13:25:33 jacques: no your complete build tree Jun 15 13:25:44 jacques: as you deleted tmp it should be pretty 'empty' Jun 15 13:25:51 what is the right url for cvs tarball stash? Jun 15 13:25:55 I can cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/quilt co quilt manually, so its not my router Jun 15 13:26:05 zecke about 300MB Jun 15 13:26:14 stealth: read what I said Jun 15 13:26:22 well about 200MB Jun 15 13:26:42 jacques: hmm, can you give me conf/* and the output of env? Jun 15 13:26:46 195817 cache Jun 15 13:26:46 1 deploy Jun 15 13:26:46 448 staging Jun 15 13:26:46 1 stamps Jun 15 13:26:46 2067 work Jun 15 13:27:19 stealth: update your local.conf to a newer tarball stash Jun 15 13:27:30 RP, the sample has treke.net also Jun 15 13:27:30 stealth: and anyway your cvs is just timing out for whatever reason Jun 15 13:28:05 stealth: update your oe tree then Jun 15 13:28:26 half an hour to parse. that is bad. Anyone have tips on generating a list of dependancies so I can make a shadow symlink OE collection like the wiki says OpenSLUG does? Jun 15 13:28:58 zecke you just need my local.conf (only thing in conf/) and `env` ? what's your email address? :-) Jun 15 13:29:04 keturn: I don't know what OpenSLIG does? Jun 15 13:29:08 jacques: zecke@handhelds.org Jun 15 13:29:11 ok Jun 15 13:30:19 zecke: they've made a packages/ directory that has symlinks to only the packages it actually uses, so it doesn't parse the entire OE metadata collection. which makes sense if you know you're never going to use most of it. Jun 15 13:30:51 half an hour is a bit much Jun 15 13:30:56 2 or 3 minutes here Jun 15 13:31:08 easier to just set your BBFILES appropriately Jun 15 13:31:09 heh Jun 15 13:31:28 BBMASK=* Jun 15 13:31:35 keturn: get someone to ls their stamps directory from a build simialr to the one you want to make - that will tell you which .bb files you need Jun 15 13:31:41 keturn, what hardware are you trying to use? Jun 15 13:32:24 ah, stamps. that'll work. Jun 15 13:32:34 mask gpe-*|opie-* , should do it :) Jun 15 13:32:39 we have bug umber 100! Jun 15 13:32:51 ade|desk: qt* qp* Jun 15 13:33:01 hmmm is there a prize? Jun 15 13:33:19 ade|desk: did that a long time ago. only results in masking a few hundred packages out of the thousands. Jun 15 13:35:37 bitbake: why didn't you build my kernel, freak? Jun 15 13:37:50 does anyone here know of a way to verify a user login password in a shell script? Are there any tools available for that? Jun 15 13:41:48 zecke mail sent (I had to configure my mailer on that box) Jun 15 13:42:51 build virtual/kernel does the right thing, and DEPENDS includes virtual/kernel... Jun 15 13:48:55 is if -z "${DEPLOY_KEEP_PACKAGES}"; then valid shell syntax? Jun 15 13:49:59 or should it have some [ ] in there ? Jun 15 13:50:59 RP: i'd stick [] in there for non full bash Jun 15 13:51:10 that isnt valid. if [ -z "${DEPLOY_KEEP_PACKAGES}"; then or if test -z "${DEPLOY_KEEP_PACKAGES}"; then are valid Jun 15 13:52:31 03zecke 07 * r1.3540.1.1 10openembedded/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Jun 15 13:52:31 Qt4 uic/moc: Jun 15 13:52:31 -Use Qt/X11 4.0.0rc1 as the Embedded version is missing Jun 15 13:52:31 -Update patch and configuration options to 4.0.0rc1 and Jun 15 13:52:31 X11 Jun 15 13:52:56 Right. schurig has broken rootfs_ipk.bbclass. I'll fix... Jun 15 13:59:31 03RP 07 * r1.3544 10openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): oprofile: update cvs version - some arm patches merged Jun 15 13:59:35 03RP 07 * r1.3543 10openembedded/classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass: rootfs_ipk: Make the shell script valid Jun 15 13:59:51 RP: does that fix bug #100? Jun 15 14:01:45 koen: yes Jun 15 14:01:47 same problem Jun 15 14:02:16 if only we could rig buzilla to do RESOLVED! FIXED! to the channel Jun 15 14:03:02 koen: I've marked it fixed Jun 15 14:03:42 jacques: send me the gnuconfig directory as well Jun 15 14:03:58 koen: it is a matter of understanding perl Jun 15 14:04:08 I gave up on that Jun 15 14:06:25 zecke ok Jun 15 14:09:14 zecke sent Jun 15 14:18:31 03dirk 07 * r1.3541.1.1 10openembedded/ (3 files in 3 dirs): TOSA: update touchscreen. autoload touchscreen and sound modules on startup Jun 15 14:28:09 03zecke 07 * r1.3542.1.1 10openembedded/packages/qmake/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Jun 15 14:28:10 qmake 2.00a update: Jun 15 14:28:10 -Use the most recent version of qmake as found in Qt/X11 4rc1 Jun 15 14:28:10 -Update the oe-qmake.conf Jun 15 14:29:32 jacques: I'll take a look later Jun 15 14:29:35 now I'm going to bed Jun 15 14:29:57 zecke ok it's been broken on that machine for about 5 months, one more night won't hurt :-) Jun 15 14:44:38 03reenoo 07 * r1.3516.35.1 10openembedded/packages/giac/giac_0.5.0.bb: giac: adjust SRC_URI to point to a versioned tarball. Jun 15 15:29:11 CoreDump|work: use "expect" to script a login (i.e. SSH or FTP) with the login/pass.... That's how I'd tackle it... Jun 15 15:29:51 CoreDump|home: ^-- Jun 15 15:31:53 jumpkick_: thanks but that's a little bit overkill for a PDA :) Jun 15 15:35:14 I can only guess that this is about passwordless logins. but ssh keys should do the trick Jun 15 15:37:01 reenoo_: actually I want to verify a users login password in a bash script. Jun 15 15:38:44 heh. just hash the pwd and compare the result with what's in /etc/passwd Jun 15 15:41:00 nah, I'll just do my own passwords using md5 hashes Jun 15 17:07:34 I downloaded the latest oe tree and have the tarball stash url setup but now when I try to build ppp I get: ERROR: Nothing provides ppp_2.4.3.bb ? Jun 15 18:28:33 stealth: that isnt valid syntax. Jun 15 18:28:36 stealth: rtfm. Jun 15 18:29:06 lol Jun 15 20:11:19 tfms Jun 15 20:13:04 the bitbake command does not accept filenames as its arguments unless you're using -b. read the bitbake users manual, or the bitbake --help output, or the numerous examples of usage on the wiki. Jun 15 20:16:48 what does hostap-modules-cs orinoco-modules-cs mipv6 atmelwlandriver have to do with ppp? http://24.110.54.195/errors/ppp-bitbake.err Jun 15 20:52:06 whee. Jun 15 20:59:12 night Jun 15 21:59:47 argh... my build of OZ has got a nutz awk task "awk {print $4}" Jun 15 21:59:55 using 98% of the CPU Jun 15 22:00:13 ... Jun 15 22:01:01 had to kill it twice... now it's gone... weird Jun 15 22:05:01 sd card doesn't automount either Jun 15 22:13:28 okay I found the problem.... Jun 15 22:13:55 this line in /etc/sdcontrol hangs: cat /proc/partitions |awk '{print $4}'| grep mmcd > "$LOGFILE-part" Jun 15 22:15:06 it seems the reason it hangs is because when you do "cat /proc/partitions" you get repeating output "60 0 249856 mmcda\n60 1 249805 mmcda1" which never ends Jun 15 22:15:58 looks like a kernel bug Jun 15 22:16:52 jumpkick_: strange Jun 15 22:17:30 luke-jr_: it's messed up... I'm going to see if I can use head and grep to work around it... Jun 15 22:18:05 jumpkick_: well, you won't get the full list that way... Jun 15 22:18:11 jumpkick_: I'd try finding a different kernel Jun 15 22:19:15 I think I'm getting the whole list... it's just repeating... if I can find the 2nd occurance of "60 0 " I know the list started over and I can cut it there Jun 15 22:35:57 ugly, but should do: cat /proc/partitions | head -`expr $(cat /proc/partitions | head -10 | grep -n " 0 " | head -2 | tail -1 | cut -d: -f1) - 1` Jun 15 22:46:33 hi all Jun 15 22:53:39 luke-jr_: proc/partitions bug and sdcontrol workaround posted to http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13274 ... :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 15 23:59:57 2005