**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 29 23:59:56 2005 Jun 30 00:13:01 i have a build with omap1_rc2 patch. now kernel 2.6.12 has been released. how do i compile oe to get an gpe-image with the latest kernel ? Jun 30 00:19:08 has anyone looked at and rebuilt the patches for that release? Jun 30 00:19:35 OE has a LOT of custom patches/drivers not in the main kernel Jun 30 00:20:02 so because a new kernel exists does not mean it may work Jun 30 00:20:36 Don't use 2.6.12 if you're using serial console. Jun 30 00:20:37 night Jun 30 00:24:11 2.6.12 works with OpenSlug apart from the serial console on boot issue (serial works after boot). Jun 30 00:30:28 we downloaded the kernel and made it to run on osk ? Jun 30 00:30:31 it worked ? Jun 30 00:30:49 so i want oe to use that instead of 2.16.12rc2 Jun 30 00:32:34 NAil: why is that; serial console works with 2.6.12 ? Jun 30 00:35:03 it seems only a few ppl are seeing the serial console issue - us and jamey on handhelds.org Jun 30 00:35:33 serial console works for me with 2.6.12 ? Jun 30 00:35:41 Lucky you ;) Jun 30 00:37:54 cant i use 2.6.12 kernel and apply the custom patches/drivers ? Jun 30 00:38:07 Of course you can try Jun 30 00:44:44 so when do u think 2.6.12 will be used by oe Jun 30 00:44:51 is anyone working on that ? Jun 30 00:45:31 If i have to use 2.6.12 and apply omap1 patch where i have to modify and what modifications i have to do ? Jun 30 00:45:50 so that bitbake takes my kernel and not 2.6.12rc2 Jun 30 00:47:01 good morning all Jun 30 00:47:08 hej Jun 30 00:47:11 morning Jun 30 00:47:20 hey hrw|work Jun 30 00:48:03 time to rebuild collie kernels for 3.5.3 upgrades Jun 30 00:48:19 ~hail marcan Jun 30 00:48:39 ibot.... Jun 30 00:48:49 koen: when do u think 2.6.12 (released) will be used instead of 2.6.12rc2 for omap osk Jun 30 00:49:05 when someone make a .bb for it :) Jun 30 00:49:13 * koen looks at Crofton|laptop Jun 30 00:51:29 hmmmm Jun 30 00:51:42 looks like some fixed a patch that's already fixed Jun 30 00:52:02 i have downloaded 2.6.12 and applied omap1 patch and it works on my osk ?. how do i make oe to do that (take the released kernel and apply omap1 patch) Jun 30 00:53:12 take a look at the rc2 .bb and change some paths Jun 30 00:57:14 morning all Jun 30 00:57:21 hi RP Jun 30 00:57:38 RP: 2.6.13-rc1 has hotplug pcmcia? Jun 30 00:59:34 koen: that gnu-config patch? Jun 30 01:00:13 hrw|work: yes Jun 30 01:00:45 it differ from our Jun 30 01:01:09 will check today cvsdate Jun 30 01:01:50 hrw|work: Partly - I'm not sure its complete Jun 30 01:01:53 just did Jun 30 01:02:03 NOTE: package gnu-config-0.1cvs20050630: completed Jun 30 01:02:11 koen: with our version? Jun 30 01:02:15 yes Jun 30 01:02:20 ok Jun 30 01:02:22 thx Jun 30 01:02:23 NOTE: [10:01] package lzma-native-4.06-r0: task do_build: completed Jun 30 01:02:32 fscking bitkeeper Jun 30 01:02:42 6.5 hours left until BK-free-day here :-) Jun 30 01:03:31 koen: when is the official last commit time for openembedded? Jun 30 01:03:42 I'm assuming it's more like 18... (US time) Jun 30 01:04:26 jbowler-zzz: I wouldn't put it past bitmover to do it in Kiribati time (GMT+14) Jun 30 01:04:31 rwhitby-away: no idea Jun 30 01:04:40 I'm doing the bk export right now Jun 30 01:05:10 rwhitby-away: should I pull oe-devel into nslu2-linux (a last time?) Jun 30 01:05:25 I think nslu2-linux is locked up at present... Jun 30 01:05:57 jbowler-zzz: yeah, should do one last pull Jun 30 01:06:13 it should have still been pulling hourly Jun 30 01:06:31 (3 hours to BK-free-day in Kiribati ...) Jun 30 01:06:40 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=713 Jun 30 01:06:50 [g2] reported it as being locked - I didn't check. I'll do so now. Jun 30 01:07:03 probably a conflict Jun 30 01:07:34 no locks, nothing to pull Jun 30 01:10:46 Right. Looks fine. Jun 30 01:14:35 morning. Jun 30 01:14:39 hi proti Jun 30 01:14:41 importing right now Jun 30 01:14:42 hey proti Jun 30 01:14:47 hey koen Jun 30 01:14:59 koen: have the bk keys been removed? Jun 30 01:15:12 hrw|work: did U check the patch fix for #88 Jun 30 01:15:22 rwhitby-away: not yet, you'll have to poke mickeyl or kergoth for that Jun 30 01:15:44 proti: not yet Jun 30 01:16:24 If the fix is correct could you apply it to the svn ? Jun 30 01:16:55 morning folks Jun 30 01:17:05 hey ade|desk Jun 30 01:18:04 Yesterday mickeyl and hrw were talking about 2.6 for collie and some patch from marcan. Is there a possibility to have 2.6 for collie in a near future ? Jun 30 01:18:21 proti: that fix looks like can be added even now Jun 30 01:18:34 proti: 2.6 on collie is quite useless without sd driver Jun 30 01:20:11 hrw|work: Useful enough, I was living without sd for 2 years. Jun 30 01:20:30 proti: collie with wifi without sd? Jun 30 01:22:31 hrw|work: No wifi either. usb + CF usable. Jun 30 01:23:02 proti: for that kind of work ok - but 2.6/collie is not so usable now Jun 30 01:25:10 hrw|work: sd apart, what's wrong with 2.6/Collie ? Jun 30 01:25:12 just applying the patch-2.6.12-omap1.bz2 to 2.6.12 will it work for a gpe-image or does any more patches need to be applied ? Jun 30 01:25:41 good morning Jun 30 01:25:47 hey mickeyl Jun 30 01:25:51 morning mickeyl Jun 30 01:27:03 i'm about to revoke access to the BK repository in the next two hours. If there's anything you want to commit to the tree, then do it _now_ or wait until the monotone db has been setup. (which might take until saturday) Jun 30 01:28:01 mickeyl: monotone db set up :) Jun 30 01:28:41 mickeyl: so pull will work, push not? Jun 30 01:28:59 What's the official host/port? Jun 30 01:29:26 hi mickeyl Jun 30 01:29:34 proti: no docs for locomo Jun 30 01:30:01 mickeyl: if you send me a mickeyl@openembedded.org pubkey I'll add it Jun 30 01:30:03 XorA: yeah, pull will probably work until they pull (sic!) the plug Jun 30 01:30:18 mickeyl: so you can pull of ewi when setting the one at vanille.de Jun 30 01:30:27 koen: excellent. Jun 30 01:30:36 * mickeyl does that Jun 30 01:30:43 but only if you promise to keep the key safe Jun 30 01:30:57 hmm.. I dont know why people think that eclipse is so great.. out-of-box it is not so usefull. Jun 30 01:31:09 hrw|work: depends what you do with it Jun 30 01:31:23 hrw|work: I work on Java/JavaCard and its amazing out of the box Jun 30 01:31:42 XorA: php - I even have phpeclipse installed Jun 30 01:32:20 and once more - GTK filereq SUXX (this time it mix hidden folders with normal) Jun 30 01:32:35 hrw|work: :-) never used it on *nix though Jun 30 01:32:48 * koen says: vi Jun 30 01:32:53 koen: pulling from yours would be mean i don't do a fresh import, wouldn't it? Jun 30 01:32:55 koen: I say "vim" Jun 30 01:33:03 hrw|work: even better Jun 30 01:33:09 mickeyl: yes Jun 30 01:33:23 I thought I'd save you some trouble Jun 30 01:33:49 are there any more patches which are applied to the kernel other than linux_omap1_2.6.12_rc2 Jun 30 01:33:53 koen: very good. Jun 30 01:34:02 if so where to find them ? Jun 30 01:34:18 mickeyl: rwithby and I are for a flat org.openennbedded.* namespace Jun 30 01:34:19 XorA: is there a method to remove all Java code support from eclipse? I dont need those "run in ant" etc menus/buttons Jun 30 01:34:31 i mean which conf file contains the patches and thier urls Jun 30 01:34:33 hrw|work: no idea, I am a java developer Jun 30 01:34:42 hrw|work: officially at work that is Jun 30 01:34:48 hrw|work: but it sucks Jun 30 01:35:03 ram123: .bb one Jun 30 01:35:24 XorA: work suxx or eclipse suxx? Jun 30 01:37:02 only one file ? Jun 30 01:37:28 hrw|work: java suxx Jun 30 01:37:33 hrw|work: hence work suxx Jun 30 01:37:35 XorA: ah. Jun 30 01:37:41 rwhitby-away: your key is in the new db. It's serving org.openembedded with one branch (.dev) at the moment Jun 30 01:38:13 koen,rwhitby-away: mickeyl@openembedded.org key sent Jun 30 01:38:28 ok Jun 30 01:38:46 the vanille.de repository will then be the official one until we have oe.org set up Jun 30 01:38:52 while you're on vacation Jun 30 01:39:23 good Jun 30 01:39:32 i want to build 2.6.12 and not 2.6.12_rc2 ; if i copy the linux_omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb into linux_omap1_2.6.12.bb and change the urls (SCI_URL) of the kernel and the patch location and create a directory linux_omap1_2.6.12 and put a defconfig into it and then say gpe-image will it take my new kernel or the old one ?. how does oe know it has to take 2.6.12 and 2.6.12rc2 Jun 30 01:39:37 your key is in, btw Jun 30 01:41:40 thanks. trying to pull... Jun 30 01:41:56 (what's the address again? ) Jun 30 01:41:59 ~lart memory Jun 30 01:42:40 ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl Jun 30 01:42:59 thanks Jun 30 01:43:07 I think we've lost ibot. Jun 30 01:44:13 CONFIG_CROSSCOMPILE - nice flag in kernel config ;) Jun 30 01:45:14 there is only one patch mention in that .bb file. is there any other patches for the kernel anywhere else ? Jun 30 01:45:37 how do i ask oe to take 2.6.12 and not 2.6.12_rc2 ? Jun 30 01:45:45 all patches should be in the .bb Jun 30 01:46:56 how do i ask oe to take 2.6.12 and not 2.6.12_rc2 ? Jun 30 01:47:20 ram123: cp linux-omap1_2.6.12-rc2.bb linux-omap1_2.6.12.bb and edit Jun 30 01:55:15 last push... Jun 30 01:55:15 next days will be hard.. monotone to learn.. Jun 30 01:55:15 monotone is rather easy Jun 30 01:55:23 :) Jun 30 01:55:25 CIA-1: removed debug from update-qtttffontdir Jun 30 01:55:32 CIA-1: linux-wrt: added some modules Jun 30 01:55:51 NAiL: maybe - I used bk for over a year Jun 30 01:56:12 alias mt='monotone' Jun 30 01:56:13 alias mt-add='monotone list unknown | xargs monotone add' Jun 30 01:56:13 alias mt-drop='monotone list missing | xargs monotone drop' Jun 30 01:56:19 add that to you bashrc Jun 30 01:58:17 time to waste another 2.5 hours of my life finding out how soon before we go bust :-( Jun 30 02:01:45 can everyone with bk write access generate a @openembedded.org keypair and send mickeyl and me the pubkey? Jun 30 02:01:58 after you secure the keypair!! Jun 30 02:02:21 Burn to CD, print out, backup. Jun 30 02:05:28 hrw: should i create a directory linux-omap1_2.6.12 and put my defconfig into it ? Jun 30 02:05:48 how do i tell oe to take 2.6.12 and not 2.6.12rc2 Jun 30 02:05:49 yes Jun 30 02:06:36 ram123: linux-omap1-2.6.12/ Jun 30 02:07:47 how do i tell oe to take 2.6.12 and not 2.6.12rc2 Jun 30 02:08:13 put DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 in the old one, or rm it Jun 30 02:13:45 or use PREFERED_VERSION Jun 30 02:14:20 i want a basic file system with X Server, touch screen support and matchbox ; what command should i give to bitbake ? Jun 30 02:14:37 will i get an image or individual ipks ? Jun 30 02:15:55 ram123: bitbake gpe-image Jun 30 02:16:10 and you will get both - image and ipks Jun 30 02:16:11 i dont want gpe-image Jun 30 02:16:17 as image is created from ipks Jun 30 02:16:26 ram123: bitbake --do-what-I-mean. Seriously, try to have a look at the packages/meta/gpe-image.bb which build an image. copy and modify it to suit your needs. Jun 30 02:17:23 ram123: gpe = X + matchmox + gtk + apps. Seems a good base for what you want. Jun 30 02:17:29 ram123: openembedded/packages/meta/* can be used as templates for anything Jun 30 02:18:02 proti: I will test #88 fix now Jun 30 02:18:18 ram123: do you have a support contract with these guys here? :-) Seems like you could be doing a bit of research on your own rather than taking up the time that these guys could be using to improve OE ... Jun 30 02:18:36 ok Jun 30 02:18:55 but I don't speak for them - they may be quite happy answering them ,,,, Jun 30 02:19:29 I need to implement the --do-what-I-mean option. really :-) Jun 30 02:19:39 hehe Jun 30 02:19:44 dwim Jun 30 02:19:54 --damn-warrens-infernal-machine Jun 30 02:30:13 koen: should nslu2-linux pull from vanille or ewi? Jun 30 02:30:25 hourly Jun 30 02:32:14 see sometimes we do get carried away and by the speed of response really helps us to solve our problem. hope i am not distrubing u. i am just like any other newbie trying to get things to get work the first time. i know it is wrong. but i am short of time. anyways thanks for all the help offered here without which i would have trouble getting started with open embedded. Jun 30 02:33:28 ram123: as I said, I don't speak for the core devs here. I just hope you're going to repay them with some cool OE contribution some day :-) Jun 30 02:34:55 i understand and will try my best to do something which would be useful to others! Jun 30 02:45:36 proti: fix for #88 applied Jun 30 02:45:53 thxs Jun 30 02:45:58 thx too Jun 30 02:46:45 So, one can release bitbake 1.3.1 now ? Jun 30 02:53:25 koen: can you (re)send me your current key please. lost it somewhere on the way Jun 30 02:53:36 thats enough eclipse for me Jun 30 02:55:38 all other people: start sending mt keys Jun 30 02:55:44 i'm revoking bk keys _now_ Jun 30 02:56:02 koen: can you do a last sync w/ bk now? Jun 30 02:57:45 mickeyl: hrw@openembedded.org or mjuszkiewicz@ or m.juszkiewicz@ or marcin.juszkiewicz@? Jun 30 02:58:11 hrw|work: hrw@openembedded.org please Jun 30 02:58:13 ok Jun 30 02:58:18 mickeyl: way ahead of you :) Jun 30 02:58:27 koen: excellent :) Jun 30 02:58:33 * mickeyl rm_user**20 Jun 30 02:59:29 11:59 hrw@home:oe$ monotone --db hrw.db pubkey hrw@openembedded.org|mail mickeyl@handhelds.org -s"my monotone key" Jun 30 02:59:44 sent Jun 30 02:59:57 I've also just sent a key Jun 30 03:00:10 key is kept in db file or in other place? Jun 30 03:00:23 db Jun 30 03:01:44 * RP backs up the .db file Jun 30 03:02:14 Where do I pull from? Jun 30 03:04:27 hrw and RP are in Jun 30 03:04:33 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11967&view=findpost&p=86422 Jun 30 03:04:34 starting my mt server now Jun 30 03:04:59 if some users wont notice that message then let they eat dirt Jun 30 03:05:40 :D Jun 30 03:05:44 hmm anyone fluent in lua? Jun 30 03:06:05 how can i do something like (if name = "*openembedded.org" ) return true ? Jun 30 03:06:08 I will add a post on oz.org Jun 30 03:06:15 hrw|work: yep Jun 30 03:06:29 function get_netsync_write_permitted (collection, identity) if (string.find(identity, "@nslu2-linux.org", 1, true)) then return true end Jun 30 03:06:32 if (string.find(identity, "@openembedded.org", 1, true)) then return true end Jun 30 03:06:38 excellent. thanks koen Jun 30 03:06:47 thank rwhitby-away :) Jun 30 03:07:02 and Jun 30 03:07:02 function get_netsync_anonymous_read_permitted (collection) Jun 30 03:07:02 return true Jun 30 03:07:02 end Jun 30 03:07:18 otherwise most people will be unhappy :) Jun 30 03:07:49 mickeyl: could you run monotone sync against ewi while I'm away? Jun 30 03:08:05 will do Jun 30 03:09:55 mickeyl: should nslu2-linux sync with ewi or vanille? Jun 30 03:10:05 (I was guessing ewi due to bandwidth) Jun 30 03:10:30 rwhitby-away: for the time being, please sync with vanille Jun 30 03:10:36 (as soon as the server is up:) Jun 30 03:10:54 bandwidth is no problem here either as the scientific network hosts my site *cough* Jun 30 03:10:59 without knowing Jun 30 03:11:03 oops, did i say that? :) Jun 30 03:11:07 hehe :) Jun 30 03:11:14 yep, you said that out aloud ... ;-) Jun 30 03:11:15 I used to do that... Jun 30 03:11:31 as long as i work here it's no problem Jun 30 03:11:37 my contract ends 2006.04 Jun 30 03:11:43 then I have to think about something else Jun 30 03:12:14 mickeyl: By then we should have something at hh.org? Jun 30 03:12:56 RP: much sooner, i hope# Jun 30 03:13:14 mickeyl: well, yes :) Jun 30 03:15:08 mickeyl: are all keys revoked in bk? Jun 30 03:15:24 koen: all except mine Jun 30 03:15:27 monotone: beginning service on monotone.vanille.de : 5253 Jun 30 03:15:50 ok Jun 30 03:15:55 RP: can you try to pull from here? Jun 30 03:16:06 serving org.openembedded Jun 30 03:16:38 warning: not currently serving requested collection 'org' Jun 30 03:16:46 should i serve 'org' or 'org.openembedded' ? Jun 30 03:16:50 org.oe Jun 30 03:16:54 k Jun 30 03:16:58 then it's started right Jun 30 03:17:14 when does the server needs to be restarted ? Jun 30 03:17:20 i.e. when i add a key Jun 30 03:17:20 ? Jun 30 03:17:27 * RP pulls Jun 30 03:17:34 no, only on .monotonorc changes Jun 30 03:17:42 ah, good. Jun 30 03:18:21 mickeyl: good morning Jun 30 03:18:37 good morning pb_ Jun 30 03:19:32 pb_: please setup a monotone database and add a key with email @openembedded.org Jun 30 03:19:40 then send me that key Jun 30 03:20:11 nslu2-linux is synced with vanille Jun 30 03:20:17 mickeyl: ewi syncs 3hourly with vaniile Jun 30 03:20:25 koen: excellent. Jun 30 03:20:27 rwhitby-away: very good Jun 30 03:21:35 okay Jun 30 03:21:42 is the version of monotone in debian unstable good enough? Jun 30 03:21:54 dunno which version is in there, but you need 0.19 Jun 30 03:21:57 0.19 Jun 30 03:21:59 0.18 is much slower Jun 30 03:22:10 debian etch is what nslu2-linux is recommending Jun 30 03:22:57 okay Jun 30 03:22:59 looks like I have 0.19 Jun 30 03:24:49 rwhitby-away: and how does it perform on a slug? Jun 30 03:25:46 don't have it running yet, but in other news we have just (in the last couple of hours) found a way to double the CPU speed of the slug by removing a single resistor. Jun 30 03:25:57 mickeyl: with vanille, ewi, nslu2-linux and dominiond we should have enough redundancy Jun 30 03:26:07 koen: definitly. Jun 30 03:26:21 rwhitby-away: heh, very good Jun 30 03:26:44 is that the infamous 133 vs 266MHz thing? Jun 30 03:27:05 mickeyl, koen: Which branch do I checkout? Jun 30 03:27:31 org.openembedded.dev Jun 30 03:27:51 is there some "monotone for bitkeeper users" doc? Jun 30 03:27:54 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/4942 Jun 30 03:28:56 pb_: yep Jun 30 03:29:01 koen: you already had some entries for a "bk <-> monotone phrasebook", right? Jun 30 03:29:06 could you start a page on the oe wiki? Jun 30 03:29:56 mickeyl: I'm writing down the commands I've needed so far... :) Jun 30 03:29:56 I have to print monotone book, read it etc so few next days I will be unusable Jun 30 03:30:19 same here, it'll take us a few days to get warm with it Jun 30 03:30:30 at least we have the infrastructure in place to cooperate. the rest will follow Jun 30 03:31:04 Yes, we're all going to be in the same boat :) Jun 30 03:31:15 A page on the wiki would be good... Jun 30 03:32:37 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MonotonePhraseBook Jun 30 03:33:25 excellent. I'll link it from the startup page now Jun 30 03:35:02 done Jun 30 03:35:18 monotone --db hrw.db pull vanille.de org.openembedded.dev Jun 30 03:35:26 is correct? Jun 30 03:35:42 org.openembedded Jun 30 03:35:46 that's the collection Jun 30 03:35:53 org.openembedded.dev is the branch you checkout then Jun 30 03:35:59 ok. Jun 30 03:36:06 btw. Jun 30 03:36:12 better use monotone.vanille.de Jun 30 03:36:27 as I may move that host to somewhere else in the future Jun 30 03:36:42 so I should break pull, restore db from backup and repull? Jun 30 03:36:48 no no Jun 30 03:36:56 just go ahead and use monotone.vanille.de next time Jun 30 03:37:06 vanille.de has a DNS wildcard atm. Jun 30 03:37:09 but that may change Jun 30 03:37:23 angstrom.vanille.de :) Jun 30 03:37:46 mickeyl: utf8 dns :) Jun 30 03:37:59 koen: heh, yeah, i've thought about that. Jun 30 03:38:13 it's pretty hackish though Jun 30 03:38:23 i'm surprised that such a solution was accepted by the technical comittee Jun 30 03:38:52 ok Jun 30 03:40:38 RP: feel free to expand http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MonotonePhraseBook Jun 30 03:40:49 koen: I'm editting it now :) Jun 30 03:41:14 mickeyl: now "monotone --db hrw.db co org.openembedded --branch=org.openembedded.dev"? Jun 30 03:41:21 ugh Jun 30 03:41:29 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MemoryRequirements is horribly out of date Jun 30 03:42:51 "monotone: warning: doing anonymous pull" is normal during first pull? Jun 30 03:43:17 mickeyl: we should 'break' -.conf after tagging/branching Jun 30 03:43:29 koen: AC Jun 30 03:43:30 K Jun 30 03:44:08 hrw: hmm, can't remember offhand. Jun 30 03:44:22 your key is in here Jun 30 03:47:18 koen: btw., see http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/monotone Jun 30 03:47:27 so we just need to grab their client Jun 30 03:47:47 s/grab/ask them about/ Jun 30 03:47:52 yeah Jun 30 03:48:06 irf.oftc.net #monotone <- that's where they are Jun 30 03:48:54 I added a few more hints to the wiki... Jun 30 03:52:33 * mickeyl reads ciabot_monotone.py Jun 30 03:53:35 drat, I seem to have some kind of locking problem Jun 30 03:53:37 * pb_ stabs nfs Jun 30 03:53:54 monotone: fatal: std::runtime_error: sqlite exec error database is locked Jun 30 03:57:13 * RP hacks the memory requirements page Jun 30 04:01:58 mickey|lunch: how about mtn.vanille.de? we're using mtn.nslu2-linux.org ... Jun 30 04:04:39 first real commit done :) Jun 30 04:08:50 mickey|lunch: are you planning to setup viewmtn, or use the one at ewi? Jun 30 04:13:20 koen: I sent you my monotone key Jun 30 04:17:03 hrw|work: now burn it to cd, print it, etc Jun 30 04:17:05 (added) Jun 30 04:17:19 koen: Jun 30 04:25:43 * koen mentions http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/4942 again Jun 30 04:33:58 * XorA returns and must start thinking of monotone keys Jun 30 04:40:46 I'm off, see you at the next unsecure AP :) Jun 30 04:41:46 koen: Have fun! Jun 30 04:52:50 printing pdf from kpdf via cups == waste of time Jun 30 04:53:50 60 pages, 7 minutes and not started printing yet.. Jun 30 04:56:17 mickey|lunch: ping Jun 30 04:56:18 BB>> setvar IMAGE_FSTYPES "tar jffs2 squashfs-lzma" Jun 30 04:56:18 Usage: 'setvar ' Jun 30 04:56:18 BB>> setvar IMAGE_FSTYPES tar jffs2 squashfs-lzma Jun 30 04:56:18 Usage: 'setvar ' Jun 30 04:57:10 mickey|lunch: strange Jun 30 04:59:22 now I go lunch Jun 30 05:12:00 hrw|work: not really strange... a deficiency of the cmdline parsing Jun 30 05:12:58 i can fix that easily Jun 30 05:15:06 XorA: you are on board Jun 30 05:18:03 monotone tip: say "monotone -d foo.db setup ." in the directory where your db is. then you never have to type the "-d foo.db" in that directory again. Very good for the monotone servers ... Jun 30 05:20:01 mickeyl: you should see the org.openembedded.nslu2-linux branch on vanille now ... Jun 30 05:20:02 i think i might get to like monotone Jun 30 05:21:40 hmm ciabot_monotone.py doesn't seem to do anything for me Jun 30 05:21:49 rwhitby: how can check all branches again? Jun 30 05:21:55 list branches Jun 30 05:21:56 * mickeyl needs to read the monotone book again Jun 30 05:21:59 righto Jun 30 05:22:09 mickeyl: we don't have ciabot working yet either Jun 30 05:22:16 mickey@gandalf:~$ mt list branches Jun 30 05:22:17 org.openembedded.dev Jun 30 05:22:17 org.openembedded.nslu2-linux Jun 30 05:22:19 excellent Jun 30 05:22:36 I'm still grokking ciabot_monotone. Jun 30 05:22:44 k Jun 30 05:22:55 its giving me unuusal errors as well. Jun 30 05:23:03 mickeyl: BTW, *never* pull from our nslu2-linux server to your server, until after 0.20 is in use. Jun 30 05:23:22 mickeyl: cheers Jun 30 05:23:29 our branch name change should avoid the error we had before, but just to be safe ... Jun 30 05:23:30 wow the whole db is only 27M Jun 30 05:23:33 the error is fixed in 0.20 Jun 30 05:23:37 rwhitby: sure thing Jun 30 05:23:47 * mickeyl changes monotone.vanille.de into mtn.vanille.de for consistency Jun 30 05:23:48 mickeyl: we will do the pushing and pulling from our end :-) Jun 30 05:23:58 mickeyl: heh - I just changed ours to monotone :-) Jun 30 05:24:21 I think monotone.foo.org is better, cause you only type it once or twice Jun 30 05:24:32 oh Jun 30 05:24:33 ok Jun 30 05:24:39 then lets use monotone Jun 30 05:24:43 sorry for the bum steer Jun 30 05:24:43 ... And if you get the name right, everything else just falls into place. Jun 30 05:24:45 * mickeyl changes back Jun 30 05:24:47 heh, nm Jun 30 05:25:02 dyoung-zzzz: exactly. where have I heard that before ... ? ;-) Jun 30 05:34:59 rwhitby: some last clarification before i do my first commit - all oe folks work on branch org.openembedded.dev or do we use seperated branches like org.openembedded.koen, org.openembedded.mickeyl etc. ? Jun 30 05:36:41 mickeyl: that's really up to you to decide. all nslu2-linux devs are going to work on org.openembedded.nslu2-linux Jun 30 05:37:38 you either all work on the same branch, and do lots of mt heads and immediately know when there is divergence, or you all work on different branches, and do lots of mt propagates and never know if someone is diverging on their own branch Jun 30 05:37:51 I would suggest branches named by new features rather than developers Jun 30 05:38:08 (if you need to fork development for that new feature) Jun 30 05:38:30 or by distro if that makes sense Jun 30 05:39:31 ah righto. by distro or by new feature Jun 30 05:39:33 *nod* Jun 30 05:41:13 at least that's the thoughts of someone who has been using monotone for just less than a week now :-) Jun 30 05:44:27 hello, is it possible to set a proxy for OE fetch task? Jun 30 05:47:43 hmm, well, my first commit seems to have worked :) Jun 30 05:47:53 opie-ttf-support: fix postinstall script Jun 30 05:48:53 Coool, so OE is now officially going Monotone? Or is this still an investigation? Jun 30 05:49:11 official Jun 30 05:49:20 bk push has been shutdown. Jun 30 05:49:26 (by us) Jun 30 05:49:31 getting the following error while using linux2.6.12 with omap patch : http://pastebin.com/305420 Jun 30 05:50:34 is there a mirror of developer.berlios.de ? Jun 30 05:51:40 mickeyl: nslu2-linux clone of OE has also been shut down Jun 30 05:51:56 rwhitby: ok, good. thanks. Jun 30 05:52:20 I'll send a mail to oe@handhelds.org with these information and request for keys. Jun 30 05:52:21 ~lart pdaXrom Jun 30 05:54:43 sriram: defconfig is b0rken? Jun 30 05:56:48 why do i get linux-omap1-2.6.12-r0 (r0 ?) i am using a released version ? Jun 30 05:58:09 hrw|work: Did you generate you keys pair ? Jun 30 05:58:18 proti: yep Jun 30 05:58:23 proti: hrw@ Jun 30 05:58:39 I have the doing anonymous pull because I have no key. Jun 30 05:59:17 Did you specify the right db (with the generated key inside) ? Jun 30 06:01:33 What hapenned to our favorite ibot ? Jun 30 06:01:52 hmm guess he's rebooting Jun 30 06:01:59 or taking a vacation with koen ;) Jun 30 06:02:14 Happy program :) Jun 30 06:03:09 the mt pull is hanging around after downloading 21.1m. Is that normal ? Jun 30 06:03:38 yes Jun 30 06:03:49 the initial pull takes some time Jun 30 06:04:09 we should pester the mt guys to add a percent bar or something Jun 30 06:04:14 s/percent/progress/ Jun 30 06:04:31 My machine is not really a thunderbox. It should takes longer than normal. Jun 30 06:05:09 It really helps for optimizations :). Jun 30 06:06:23 yeah. all developers should develop on small machines. makes you sensitive for performance. Jun 30 06:06:53 heh Jun 30 06:06:59 On this machine, bitbake is almost unusable. 1 second for parsing a bb file. Jun 30 06:07:49 mickeyl: zx81 for everyone :-). Jun 30 06:08:16 mickeyl: bitbake for Z :-) Jun 30 06:08:29 hehe Jun 30 06:08:45 kill CUPS Jun 30 06:08:46 bitbake should work fine on a Z with enough hd Jun 30 06:08:50 kill.... Jun 30 06:08:55 that bad ? Jun 30 06:09:08 Common Useless Printing Something Jun 30 06:09:12 the only good thing about CUPS is it sucks less than lpr Jun 30 06:09:30 yeah. compared to lpd, CUPS rules. Jun 30 06:09:36 18minutes for 10-20 pages from pdf Jun 30 06:09:50 Common, cups is marvelous. Go back to your printcap. Jun 30 06:10:26 took me a week to setup lpd for the first time back in redhat 4.1 days Jun 30 06:10:46 hrw|work: cups has nothing to do with it. Curse the gs interpreter or the PS interprete of your printer rather. Jun 30 06:11:12 proti: for me as a user it is cups Jun 30 06:11:42 hrw|work: Look. lpr /etc/password is almost instateneous. Jun 30 06:11:51 mickeyl: in monotone if you save privkey/pubkey can you not just import them into a new database? Jun 30 06:11:58 yes you can Jun 30 06:12:08 mt read < foo.key Jun 30 06:12:31 rwhitby: phew, as thats the first thing I backed up Jun 30 06:15:12 Explain me why bk tree is 200Mb where as mt tree is 100Mb ? Jun 30 06:15:29 mt tree has no history Jun 30 06:16:40 Ok. Jun 30 06:18:56 hue|home: meta/wrt-image.bb should be created probably to have as small rootfs as possible Jun 30 06:20:12 hmm Jun 30 06:20:35 ciabot_monotone doesn't even attempt to pull my tree Jun 30 06:20:56 argh Jun 30 06:20:58 ~lart mickeyl Jun 30 06:21:03 ~lart ibot for not being there Jun 30 06:25:16 wrt54gs-jffs2.trx is 2.2M big - should work Jun 30 06:28:38 fscking cups, gs-afpl and other stuff used during 'so called printing' Jun 30 06:30:31 Good afternoon. Jun 30 06:30:45 g'day Jun 30 06:30:49 hi Jun 30 06:45:23 hi Jun 30 06:46:51 How do you update the monotone tree freshly pulled ? mt update ? mt sync ? Jun 30 06:47:13 either pull or sync Jun 30 06:47:24 both should work Jun 30 06:48:01 mt pull update the database only or the checked out tree too ? Jun 30 06:48:18 the database Jun 30 06:48:28 hmm well Jun 30 06:48:32 actually i'm not sure Jun 30 06:48:36 database Jun 30 06:48:48 mt update updates the working dir Jun 30 06:48:54 it's a handy feature Jun 30 06:49:25 mt update updates database then working tree ? Jun 30 06:49:31 nope Jun 30 06:49:56 Then I have to do : "mt pull; mt update" ? Jun 30 06:50:00 yep Jun 30 06:50:08 like in the early days Jun 30 06:50:09 bk pull Jun 30 06:50:12 bk -r co -q Jun 30 06:50:29 later bk versions did that checkout automatically Jun 30 06:51:58 mt is a magnetic tape program on my build box :-/ Jun 30 06:52:06 Just been causing me no end of confusion... Jun 30 06:52:11 RP: here too Jun 30 06:52:20 RP: well at least you backup by accident :-) Jun 30 06:52:22 RP: and it does not belong to any package Jun 30 06:52:39 mt should die. It's nearly obsolete now. Jun 30 06:52:54 hrw|work: It belong to tar if I remember well. Jun 30 06:53:30 proti: dpkg -S `which mt` return nothing Jun 30 06:53:42 proti: also searching on packages.debian.org return nothing Jun 30 06:54:24 ls -l /bin/mt Jun 30 06:54:30 /bin/mt -> /etc/alternatives/mt Jun 30 06:55:00 /etc/alternatives/mt -> /bin/mt-gnu Jun 30 06:55:09 dpkg -S /bin/mt-gnu Jun 30 06:55:13 cpio Jun 30 06:56:25 But tar provides a rmt-tar too. Jun 30 06:56:38 ah.. Jun 30 06:57:13 But forget about it. I never used it in 13 years of unix usage. Jun 30 06:58:16 proti: I found it when wrote "mt" instead of "monotone" Jun 30 06:58:43 Mine has just been renamed to avoid confusion :) Jun 30 06:58:52 update-alternatives --remove-all mt Jun 30 06:59:03 Yes, me too. Moreover, I did 'alias monotone=mt'. So even when I typed monotone, I invoked mt :). Jun 30 06:59:08 Does OE have its own forum= Jun 30 06:59:09 ? Jun 30 06:59:20 Ken|JLime: no Jun 30 07:00:13 proti: I also did that but lost the alias and strange things started happening :) Jun 30 07:00:38 RP: your machine is cursed. Jun 30 07:01:08 Do the adresses for the monotone oe tree have to be in the form *xxx@openembedded.org* Jun 30 07:01:18 ? Jun 30 07:01:43 proti: It doesn't have to be a real address Jun 30 07:04:00 For mickeyl and koen they are real. I prefer a real adress if I can. Jun 30 07:04:37 why you think that they are real for them? Jun 30 07:07:01 The Monotone phrase book says : mt --db=/somepath/oe.db pubkey xxx@openembedded.org | mail mickeyl@handhelds.org -s "xxx monotone key" Jun 30 07:07:22 proti: I wrote that ;-) Jun 30 07:07:32 The mail mickeyl@openembedded.org has to be real else, the mail will go nowhere. Jun 30 07:07:45 proti: read again :-) Jun 30 07:07:45 Its not that though, is it? Jun 30 07:08:04 Ooops. Right :). Jun 30 07:08:16 * XorA sees the lightbulb Jun 30 07:09:03 nslu2-linux is requiring real emails, so that you can email someone easily about a change they made Jun 30 07:09:13 It confirms the theory that the brain only sees the beginning and the end of a word/sentence and do the match according. Jun 30 07:09:29 can oe.org have a mail forwarder? Jun 30 07:09:57 XorA: ask france Jun 30 07:10:21 Given some of us already have hh.org accounts, it may even just work... Jun 30 07:10:37 oe.org doesnt have an MX atm. just using the default all-in-one everything-at-that-domain-forwards-to-me crap that the dns provider provides Jun 30 07:10:39 mail blah@oe.org to create a bug in bugzilla and auto assign to blah :-) Jun 30 07:11:43 kergoth`zzz: Right. Its not important anyway... Jun 30 07:11:48 * kergoth`zzz nods Jun 30 07:13:08 kergoth`zzz: wake up! Jun 30 07:13:43 morning Jun 30 07:14:42 * kergoth`zzz gets caffeine Jun 30 07:27:47 uf.. finally "monotone book" printed Jun 30 07:34:18 Is there a monotone version that is preferred? Jun 30 07:34:28 0.19 Jun 30 07:34:37 (Debian Etch has it) Jun 30 07:49:53 * CosmicPenguin watches his system compile the "boost" libraries as a dependancy for monotone, and fears Jun 30 07:52:25 CosmicPenguin: hehe Jun 30 07:52:59 what will be the bk replacement? Jun 30 07:53:30 not "will be", "is" -) Jun 30 07:53:33 monotone Jun 30 07:53:51 ewww Jun 30 07:54:14 Remember, that chouimat hacks on KDE, so his opinion must be taken with the usual grain of salt... :) Jun 30 07:54:33 * chouimat|ibook kicks CosmicPenguin in the balls Jun 30 07:55:00 hey ... boost ... Jun 30 07:55:16 galaxyhack uses that ... specifically boost-filesystem Jun 30 07:55:24 Overclocking the NSLU2: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.nslu2.linux/7332 Jun 30 07:55:37 if anyone is interested in a space-based programming game Jun 30 08:08:56 mickeyl: I was looking a little at the qte accellerated sharp library. Jun 30 08:10:16 mickeyl: I think they just make QTransformedScreen to use the W100 screen as its base class. Jun 30 08:11:02 mickeyl: So, you cannot choose between an accellerated or non accellerated driver. The QWS_SCREEN="Transformed:x:x" is accellerated. Jun 30 08:28:29 openembedded.unixthread.com Jun 30 08:28:51 Ken|JLime: whatfor? Jun 30 08:29:00 devels talk here or on ML Jun 30 08:29:28 starters goes here or (if they are zaurus users) then on http://www.oesf.org/forums/ Jun 30 08:29:58 Ive had a hard time finding forums myself, and its a easy enough name to remember. Mostly for all non zaurus users then :) Jun 30 08:30:23 ;) Jun 30 08:30:43 write somewhere about it so someone will find it Jun 30 08:31:42 I'll post it on jlime.com (just so google snaps it up) hmm, donno where else, the wiki seems abit overkill Jun 30 08:31:52 mailing lists perhaps? Jun 30 08:33:56 should Jun 30 08:34:01 CosmicPenguin: KDE > * Jun 30 08:34:34 chouimat: any chance you could help w/ my KDE bb issues? =p Jun 30 08:38:58 bye Jun 30 08:56:20 mickeyl: do you offer save key storing? Jun 30 08:57:24 damn monotone - doesn't like my operton Jun 30 09:47:14 hmm Jun 30 09:47:22 time to upgrade the source mirror to speak monotone Jun 30 09:50:59 good thinking Jun 30 09:54:19 and a monotone fetcher Jun 30 09:54:37 heh yeah Jun 30 09:56:32 CosmicPenguin: I have monotone working on amd64 ATM Jun 30 09:56:56 upgrade some lib... lemme see if I can remember Jun 30 09:57:49 Luke-Jr: it keeps tossing a SIGABRT at me Jun 30 09:57:57 But then again, this is gentoo, so all bets may be off Jun 30 09:59:45 boost Jun 30 09:59:56 use x86 or ~x86 keywords to get latest ver Jun 30 10:30:58 * chouimat is away: food Jun 30 10:36:48 Luke-Jr: sweet - thanks... :) Jun 30 10:38:40 yw Jun 30 10:55:45 nice - monotone doesn't have http proxy support Jun 30 10:55:52 really fucking great Jun 30 11:00:36 evening Jun 30 11:11:53 CosmicPenguin: why did you not raise this before? ;) Jun 30 11:30:09 'lo Jun 30 11:30:18 *g* Jun 30 11:30:26 ugh. my client bugs. Jun 30 11:31:00 *wonders* Jun 30 11:57:35 zecke: first I've learned of it Jun 30 12:17:23 *yawn* Jun 30 12:17:24 evening Jun 30 12:19:32 yo _alwin_ Jun 30 12:19:43 <_alwin_> hoi Jun 30 12:30:46 Qt/Embedded 2.3.10: Jun 30 12:30:46 - Fix linuxfb overflow with offscreen pixmaps Jun 30 12:30:46 - Fix qte calling ::sync() instead of QScreen::sync() Jun 30 12:30:46 - Fix rotation in W100 accellerated driver Jun 30 12:30:46 All patches courtesy QtE Uberhacker Manuel Teira - thanks a lot, Manuel. Jun 30 12:30:51 Jun 30 12:33:06 SirFred: here we are Jun 30 12:33:29 mickeyl: :) Jun 30 12:33:38 mickeyl: So, it worked finally? Jun 30 12:34:15 i'm about to test it... but since I've running an older version (like you did), I think it will be fine Jun 30 12:34:23 knowing in just a few minutes... Jun 30 12:34:41 nice plasma effects, btw ;) Jun 30 12:35:04 mickeyl: :-) Jun 30 12:35:18 mickeyl: First time I was a little... worried. Jun 30 12:35:23 i guess that comes from qte accessing simultanousely via W100 and via Transformed Jun 30 12:35:30 ibot: spell simultaneously Jun 30 12:35:34 mmh Jun 30 12:35:39 * mickeyl cries because of missing ibot Jun 30 12:35:59 mickeyl: Well, I was starting opie from a terminal and it SIGSEGV Jun 30 12:36:09 mickeyl: That's why you feel like it was locked. Jun 30 12:36:46 mickeyl: I've found that sharp qte version just accellerates the Transformed implementation. Jun 30 12:37:04 mickeyl: It's the easyest way, but I didn't wan to loose the non accellerated Transformed. Jun 30 12:37:17 SirFred: yeah, that's natural to them. They don't do things the clean way, they just hack what it's there to make it work Jun 30 12:37:38 mickeyl: I'm now on a sharp rom. Jun 30 12:38:27 ieek Jun 30 12:38:29 must be hell ;) Jun 30 12:38:52 mickeyl: I wonder if restoring with a NAND backup is more agressive than just updating using zImage, initrd, updater.sh and so on. Jun 30 12:39:12 Because I didnt' found a sharp rom and has to use a nand backup Jun 30 12:39:27 SirFred: of course it's more agressive Jun 30 12:39:35 it flashes everything, even the maintenance 7MB Jun 30 12:39:44 which is why i don#tl like it Jun 30 12:39:50 but users seem to like it as backup :/ Jun 30 12:40:06 mickeyl: So I'll try to make all my investigations before going back to oz. Jun 30 12:40:31 mickeyl: Do you know where could I find a Sharp ROM for the 760 in the format zImage/initrd/updater ? Jun 30 12:40:44 mickeyl: I was searching a lot without luck. Jun 30 12:41:26 I'm afraid there isn't one Jun 30 12:41:34 you would need to extract it from a NAND backup Jun 30 12:43:12 mickeyl: Shaking it ? :-) Jun 30 12:43:43 Fonts are more than big on sharp. Jun 30 12:43:52 nice try :D but seriously, i think this process is documented on oesf.org somehow - the parts have fixed lengths Jun 30 12:44:07 oz 3.5.4 will have a different theme using DejaVUSans 16 Jun 30 12:44:08 mickeyl: Great, I will try to find it. Jun 30 12:44:20 mickeyl: TrueType? Jun 30 12:44:26 *nod* Jun 30 12:44:31 Great. Jun 30 12:44:59 mickeyl: It seems that the Imageon is able to render fonts in some way. Jun 30 12:45:03 yeah, it looks much more professional. Jun 30 12:45:11 oh cool, how thatß Jun 30 12:45:12 ?` Jun 30 12:45:44 mickeyl: Well, the libqte.so of sharp has an overloaded ::drawFont method somewhere, related with the w100 Jun 30 12:46:12 I need a gdb that runs on the sharp, setup the wireless and have a lot of patience. Jun 30 12:46:27 aah. interesting Jun 30 12:52:59 hmm Jun 30 12:53:07 rotate doesn't seem to work on-the-fly here Jun 30 12:53:19 new apps run rotated, but the launcher isn't rotated Jun 30 12:53:50 oh and with the w100 accelleration, some pixmaps are not shown Jun 30 12:53:58 mickeyl: :-( Jun 30 12:54:26 It worked here, perhaps I've messed something. Jun 30 12:54:28 mickeyl: still on irc? We've a OE forum now Jun 30 12:54:32 Yeah Yippie Jun 30 12:54:45 one more site to use the 'Lost Password' feature on Jun 30 12:54:48 heh Jun 30 12:54:50 what forum? Jun 30 12:55:15 SirFred: i don't see the arrows in spinboxes with Windows style appearing Jun 30 12:55:45 mickeyl: I can not check it now. Jun 30 12:55:54 k Jun 30 12:56:34 mickeyl: Let me think... Jun 30 12:56:55 Humm, I put that stuff on a #ifdef Jun 30 12:57:20 Well, I'll check it with time. Jun 30 12:57:31 don't hurry. lots of things going on Jun 30 12:58:07 muh Jun 30 12:58:17 TheCount: hey Jun 30 12:58:30 TheCount: I'm still busy, but just eloberate on your plans Jun 30 12:58:32 zecke: hey ;) Jun 30 12:58:46 zecke: best you'd have a look at the interface, one moment Jun 30 12:59:23 he count Jun 30 13:00:50 hey woglinde Jun 30 13:01:15 mickeyl: now you hooked up with alice, I'll get my DSL modem back? Jun 30 13:02:18 zecke: I just sent you a link .. what's missing is the bitbake integration, bitbake_qa/tinderbox integration, and options management for the packages Jun 30 13:03:00 TheCount: I've a tinderbox on 127.0.0.1 Jun 30 13:03:15 TheCount: how do you want to integrate tinderbox? use the reports of the tinderclient? Jun 30 13:04:22 zecke: whatever fits best. see the link on the builds page - the idea was to have a set of tests/checks for each package, and a liste of failed/suceeded/open tests Jun 30 13:04:52 zecke: what DSL modem? Jun 30 13:04:54 zecke: open test means someone from the QA department has to check manually, e.g. with hardware intervention or something like this Jun 30 13:05:06 hm I thin zecke meant me Jun 30 13:05:08 woglinde: now you hooked up with alice, I'll get my DSL modem back? Jun 30 13:05:11 hah Jun 30 13:05:20 psst, don't tell anyone I'm confused Jun 30 13:05:21 zecke later Jun 30 13:05:22 * TheCount has hooked up with alice at well Jun 30 13:05:35 i wish i have hooked up with alice, but I'm just a customer :D Jun 30 13:05:38 zecke after the flatchange Jun 30 13:05:38 * mickeyl guilty grin Jun 30 13:05:43 .o( good fsck, I like italians ) Jun 30 13:06:55 mickeyl: better prepend ' ' when you stuff like that Jun 30 13:07:12 woglinde: first there was the flat change and then there will be the flat rate? Jun 30 13:07:37 zecke: the interface is intended for qa/project managers and supposed to be an executive summary as well as a way to tick of problems, add new customers/developers contacts for the reference, trigger builds, and throw together documentation generated by the data from checkins, builds and tests Jun 30 13:08:08 TheCount: mostly like Tinderbox ( I hope bakerman is not written in perl ) Jun 30 13:08:16 zecke: templates based (smarty), translatable (gettext), database based (mysql), in php Jun 30 13:08:30 TheCount: I like the proposed integration of the actual meta data into the build process Jun 30 13:09:14 TheCount: What is left? hooking it to bugzilla? Jun 30 13:09:25 TheCount: how will it get the SVN/monotone data? Jun 30 13:10:06 TheCount: something koen wanted: Look at a package and see on which platform it builds, see architecture related bug reports for a particular package Jun 30 13:10:18 zecke: hooking into bitbake, bugzilla, svn/monotone Jun 30 13:10:46 zecke: all that is open. I'm all for discussing it, and would actually have to do that quite soon Jun 30 13:11:03 zecke: sounds good to me. I'd like to see that as well. Jun 30 13:11:18 TheCount: two questions: What about security? How to proceed (licensing, installing, testing, coding) Jun 30 13:11:29 zecke: we (that is, me and two others) have to write a paper about it until the 16th Jun 30 13:11:38 zecke: in which regard? Jun 30 13:11:51 uh, what regard anyway Jun 30 13:12:42 TheCount: Is bakerman just a frontend to the data? Or could I manage stuff like tinderclients as well? Jun 30 13:13:03 TheCount: like adding 'build' machines, removing them, disabling tests Jun 30 13:13:22 zecke: I don't know how tinderclients work, but I'd love to have that in there Jun 30 13:15:27 TheCount: besides the colors used, I like it Jun 30 13:15:38 zecke: I'd like to get the stuff you're seeing right now working sometime very soon and document it's implementation as well, after that, we can carry on with whatever additions Jun 30 13:15:53 zecke: use menu -> view -> page style Jun 30 13:15:54 TheCount: Security: If it is done, I'm sure we can install it on hh.org Jun 30 13:16:52 TheCount: all look insane Jun 30 13:17:26 zecke: cool! .. I'll need some serious coaching/insights on bitbake integration (i.e. what data to pull from where, how to figure out what options a package has/how to craft metadata for them, how to tell bitbake what options shall really be used, how to integrate tinderbox .. etc) Jun 30 13:17:34 TheCount: If you need help on setting up a tinderbox, nowadays I can help Jun 30 13:17:39 zecke: pull default.css and send me a new one Jun 30 13:17:50 zecke: we just needed _something_ Jun 30 13:18:09 TheCount: haha, cat /dev/urandom until text is valid goedel_number for css Jun 30 13:18:42 TheCount: each OE build can send data to a tinderbox with just 4 lines in your local.conf Jun 30 13:19:05 zecke: when do you have a serious timeslice for setting this up on my system for me? Jun 30 13:19:17 zecke: or can we just do that now? (running Debian sid) Jun 30 13:19:35 TheCount: I can guide you now Jun 30 13:19:58 TheCount: get tinderbox2 from the mozilla cvs Jun 30 13:20:19 *browse* Jun 30 13:20:36 TheCount: Meanwhile I force maple to do my math assignment Jun 30 13:20:39 zecke: basically the only thing I got running is a (slightly old) bitbake able to build openslug Jun 30 13:23:04 zecke: what module do I have to checkout? and, what is hh.org? ;) Jun 30 13:23:29 TheCount: hh.org == handhelds.org Jun 30 13:24:03 zecke: ah! (doh) Jun 30 13:24:45 TheCount: I think I might force you into upgrading bitbake + oe :} Jun 30 13:25:10 TheCount: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tinderbox/ Jun 30 13:25:30 zecke: just give me the complete walkthrough, if required. Jun 30 13:25:40 zecke: the box is fast and has a fast connection Jun 30 13:26:05 zecke: ok, got tinderbox2 Jun 30 14:25:17 * keturn shakes his bk tree a bit, seeing if any more local changesets fall out before migrating. Jun 30 16:24:01 hi kergoth Jun 30 21:45:11 Want to know what basic setup is needed to download of OE. i had a problem with downloading. i am behind a firewall and the network admin wants to know what ports needed to be opened ?. i want to work on oe can anyone throw more light on this ? Jun 30 21:47:54 shouldnt be any special ports really ... http, cvs, svn, bk, mail, ftp, i think thats about it Jun 30 21:56:02 do u know the port numbers ?. what is the mail port ? Jun 30 21:57:46 i think it also uses ssh Jun 30 22:09:48 dont understand why these ports are blocked. client (uses any free port) makes outward connection on specific ports (Servers whose port numbers are well known) Jun 30 22:10:18 dont know why these are blocked Jun 30 22:49:17 <__law__> monotone: setting default server to monotone.vanille.de Jun 30 22:49:22 <__law__> first test :-) Jun 30 22:58:05 <__law__> $ monotone --db=/home/law/tmp/monotone_test/oe.db co --branch=org.openembedded.dev Jun 30 22:58:06 <__law__> monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads Jun 30 22:58:15 <__law__> what should i to now? Jun 30 22:58:21 <__law__> do Jun 30 23:33:16 mickeyl or florian should probably do a merge, but neither seem to be here Jun 30 23:35:46 <__law__> should this solve my problem? Jun 30 23:50:42 __law__: yes Jun 30 23:51:37 you can, of course, do the merge yourself - I haven't tried it, I'm not sure how complex it is (and I don't want to start hacking the oe.dev branch...) Jun 30 23:54:12 BTW, if you do try it I would recommend copying the db first, so that you can restore your original state - and I would delete my keys from the db afterward to be sure I didn't push it back. Jun 30 23:57:10 good morning all Jun 30 23:58:16 hey Jun 30 23:58:17 morning koen Jun 30 23:58:27 how goes it raster ? Jun 30 23:58:47 emte: yo emmie Jun 30 23:58:55 busy as usual Jun 30 23:59:16 yeah ... Jun 30 23:59:28 trying to figure a few things out myself Jun 30 23:59:49 hey jbowler **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 30 23:59:57 2005