**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 23:59:57 2005 Jul 14 00:50:26 morning Jul 14 01:32:07 good morning Jul 14 01:33:04 morning Jul 14 02:15:19 morning Jul 14 02:20:39 monring peoples Jul 14 02:34:43 morning folk Jul 14 02:34:43 s Jul 14 02:35:22 hi mickeyl Jul 14 02:35:32 hi Bernardo, XorA, greg72, ade|desk Jul 14 02:36:41 morning everyone Jul 14 02:44:44 03xora 07org.openembedded.dev * rfb87c667... 10/packages/abiword/ (abiword_2.0.14.bb abiword_2.2.7.bb): abiword: add missing dependancy on libxml2 Jul 14 02:48:19 hi mickeyl, bluelightning Jul 14 02:50:14 does oe support g4 Jul 14 02:51:07 eJumbo: as in PPC? Jul 14 02:53:23 mickeyl: any advances on the Cxx00? Now I have adsl once again, I am going to try to help once more. Jul 14 02:56:07 Bernardo: no, i'm afraid not. I need to concentrate on one device to get things done and this will be the c7x0 for some time. Jul 14 02:57:21 hm, why do i have to merge stuff manually when doing a propagate? i didn't even touched the stuff. Jul 14 02:58:53 ok, time to install monotone and update my oe... Jul 14 03:00:02 tmbinc: sounds like you didn't update your working copy before doing one of the commits. Florian and me have been trapped by that as well. Jul 14 03:00:23 hi mickeyl Jul 14 03:00:41 I'm alerted whenever I get the "this commit will create a fork", because in that case I already have downloaded more recent revisions, but my working copy wasn't updated yet. Jul 14 03:00:44 hi pb_ Jul 14 03:03:24 mickeyl: no, i always update my working copy now (*after* a progagate, though). both branches are single-headed. Jul 14 03:03:48 it looks more that it tries to merge the last old version with the new version Jul 14 03:04:18 but as i didn't made any changes, it could just use the new one (and i always mix up the "meld" working space - what's left, what's right?) Jul 14 03:05:34 i think LEFT is what gets commited, at least that's what the message on the console says Jul 14 03:05:46 no center is what gets committed Jul 14 03:05:50 (on 3-way) Jul 14 03:05:58 at least for me Jul 14 03:07:20 yeah Jul 14 03:07:24 on 3-way center Jul 14 03:07:28 on 2-way left Jul 14 03:10:14 hmm Jul 14 03:10:31 for some reason, i think the "last common ancestor" is wrong Jul 14 03:10:34 it's ancient Jul 14 03:10:41 and not the last propagate Jul 14 03:12:19 maybe i just don't understand the propagate magic, but should it just apply the differences between the last point where my branch met the main branch and the current head of the main branch? Jul 14 03:12:39 i think so, but actually i never did it Jul 14 03:12:40 rwhitby: do you have similiar problems on nslu2? Jul 14 03:27:52 tmbinc: yes, some people on nslu2 are getting the same problem. I personally haven't had it yet. Jul 14 03:53:32 does anyone fixed glib-native recently? it doesn't compile for me since my last debian upgrade (i suspect gcc4 being the problem) Jul 14 03:54:14 <__law__> tmbinc, i have an fix Jul 14 03:55:09 <__law__> tmbinc, EXTRA_OECONF = "--disable-debug --disable-visibility" Jul 14 03:58:22 ah thanks Jul 14 03:58:51 is that a real fix or a workaround? (i have to admit that i didn't even understood the real problem - looks like gcc4 doesn't like aliasing to undefined references anymore, but i didn't investigated further) Jul 14 04:05:36 __law__: thanks, works. Jul 14 04:06:26 <__law__> tmbinc, does it really work or only compile :-) i havent tested it yes Jul 14 04:06:32 <__law__> s/yes/yet Jul 14 04:09:49 that's a good question, however the package requiring glib-native did compile as well, so it's enough for me :) Jul 14 05:34:52 Ciao all Jul 14 06:12:54 hi Pigi Jul 14 06:28:22 hi pb_ Jul 14 06:28:29 how are you going ? Jul 14 06:35:24 pretty good. how are you? Jul 14 06:36:06 really tired. I changed house in the last week, and I think I have to work for some month to have a decent house :) Jul 14 06:36:23 And I don't have yet an internet connection in the new location. Jul 14 06:36:36 ( which is disappointing ) Jul 14 06:36:52 Pigi: I hope you won't have to wait as long as I did Jul 14 06:37:14 I was without internet these last two months since I moved Jul 14 06:37:25 telecom says that in a week or so I should be connected. Jul 14 06:38:01 My moving, also if scaring wasn't too much far from my old location ( 100 meters or so ) then it should not be so difficult for the telecom guys Jul 14 06:38:44 They reconnected the ISDN in a week, then for today I have at least a backup line :) Jul 14 06:38:57 Well mine was 500 meters, so maybe that was it... Jul 14 06:39:00 :) Jul 14 06:39:13 ehehe. Where are you from, bernardo ? Jul 14 06:39:41 Portugal - here they say that 6 to 8 weeks is normal when asking for a new adsl connection or a transfer from another line Jul 14 06:40:12 I whish in Italy they maintain their promises .... Jul 14 06:40:18 wish even Jul 14 06:40:45 Bernardo: there are other parts of the EU where you should wait so much for a cable connection... Jul 14 06:41:11 greg72, you're right :( Jul 14 06:41:28 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r2913dd5a... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added mpd Jul 14 06:41:30 well, if I had a contract with the ex-monopoly company, it would have taken 2-3 days at most Jul 14 06:41:32 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * red9017c6... 10/packages/thttpd/ (files/init thttpd_2.25b.bb): Added initscript Jul 14 06:41:36 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rd32f204f... 10/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jul 14 06:41:36 Updated initscript Jul 14 06:41:36 Added thttpd to packages Jul 14 06:41:54 but since I have a contract with a 12 months fidelity clause to another isp... Jul 14 06:42:46 The problem here that in this district this is the only cable provider. You know, capitalism and free market... Jul 14 06:42:56 heh Jul 14 06:43:11 :) Jul 14 06:44:34 I must admit that I've called a friend who has a friend... and they've set up my line quickly. Dirty social engineering... :-) Jul 14 06:45:52 Well when I ordered my new line, I got it a month early, and got a second one added on at the right, overservice or what? Jul 14 06:46:12 "right time" that should have been Jul 14 06:46:22 heh Jul 14 06:46:37 where are you XorA ? Jul 14 06:47:01 Bernardo: UK Jul 14 06:47:40 Bernardo: it then took 2 months to convince them I only wanted one line and wasnt paying for the month I didnt even live in the house :-) Jul 14 06:47:52 :) Jul 14 06:48:37 I am now fighting the ISP to convince them I won't pay the month I didn't use, and I won't pay the severance clause for the other house, as I am still working with them. Jul 14 06:49:22 I have to pay for the month I didn't use the line, and they told me that before accepting the moving request :) Jul 14 06:51:38 I've refused to pay the bill and asked the consumers union for help, we'll see... Jul 14 06:53:05 <[g2]> Anyone familiar with INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS ? I'm running bb natively on openslug right now Jul 14 06:53:19 http://www.news-dominica.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1337&PN=1&get=last by the way Jul 14 06:54:08 is it normal that a monotone pull needs more than 1,30 h to finish ( and yet have to go ) ? Jul 14 06:54:24 "pigi 8834 7347 83 14:17 pts/5 01:19:56 monotone --db=oe.db pull" Jul 14 06:55:08 greg72: started to read it... I think I know where I'll get inspiration for my next letter to the isp...~ Jul 14 06:57:19 Pigi: a lot of users have suffered that Jul 14 06:58:07 any workaround ? ( a part from buying a multiopteron machine ) ? Jul 14 06:58:41 Pigi: waiting seems to be only cure, BTW out of interest what is your spec? Jul 14 06:59:31 intel 1,2ghz ( 800 when on overheat or battery ) 1Gb ram Jul 14 07:01:52 greg72: reminds me of a letter I sent to a solicitor that started, Dear lobotomy patient.... Jul 14 07:50:27 Pigi: yeah, monotone seems to be extraordinarily slow the first time you check out. Jul 14 07:50:47 I don't remember exactly how long it took me to pull, but it was several hours on an athlon xp3000+. Jul 14 07:51:14 pb_: several hours on that monster? Jul 14 07:51:30 The bad thing is that isn't my first pull. ( well, meybe the second, or third but not the first :) ) Jul 14 07:52:06 XorA: maybe not several, but I'm pretty sure it was more than an hour. Jul 14 07:52:22 but if it takes several hours, it will be better I stop it and wiat for my adsl and a free w.e. on my little pc :) Jul 14 07:52:32 Yeah - mine took about 2 hours too Jul 14 07:52:44 pb_: Ive got an amd64 3200+ and longest I think Ive suffered is 10 mins, the amd64 is running monotone in 32bit mode Jul 14 07:53:00 ah. it was definitely much slower than that for me. Jul 14 07:53:03 damn, this means Im due for a few hour job soon Jul 14 07:54:14 I haven't run it on my opteron, but just comparing relative times between my 2700+ and the Opteron in compiling, say glibc, I think the operton would still be at it for 30-45 minutes Jul 14 07:54:51 it took 2,5 hours to complete, but he did it :)))) Jul 14 07:55:00 updating now. Jul 14 07:55:03 Pigi: heh, congratulations Jul 14 07:55:05 I wonder if Ive just got lucky about when Ive synced to always manage to get changes in little chunks Jul 14 07:56:36 I think you are better off if you were in on it in the beginning Jul 14 07:57:01 CosmicPenguin: maybe, I did my first pull a few mins after mickeyl put server online Jul 14 07:57:26 The longer you wait, the more changesets you have to worry about Jul 14 07:57:57 pray your .db file never gets corrupted :-) Jul 14 07:58:35 did someone managet to change the sound-driver for h3x00 from kernel to alsa ? Jul 14 07:58:41 managed even Jul 14 08:04:14 CosmicPenguin: yeah, I think that's probably it Jul 14 08:05:21 afternoon Jul 14 08:07:27 hi reenoo_ Jul 14 08:12:00 hey pb_ Jul 14 08:12:34 see you later, guys Jul 14 09:44:53 * CosmicPenguin smacks the shit out of Microwindows Jul 14 09:47:52 hi Jul 14 09:50:34 ibot, ugt Jul 14 09:50:35 ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. Jul 14 10:00:16 <[g2]> kergoth, around ? Jul 14 10:11:25 bye Jul 14 10:13:59 <[cc]smart> mickey|away: will come back soon ? Jul 14 10:51:22 bleh Jul 14 10:55:30 hi ! Jul 14 10:56:06 hi Jul 14 10:56:19 yop JustinP Jul 14 10:56:32 yop? Jul 14 10:56:57 hello, hi, bonjour, buenos dia, whatever ^^ Jul 14 10:57:03 heh Jul 14 10:58:16 on #oe, thay also use "coin"... (that's the sound a french duck does ;) ) Jul 14 10:58:27 on #mandrivafr, i mean... Jul 14 11:03:13 <[cc]smart> hi, somebody here who could discuss populate-var.sh and make decisions ? Jul 14 11:31:55 ok, I got my destination directory problems fixed from yesterday Jul 14 11:32:09 now I'm getting: "the following files were installed but not shipped in any package". How would I go about fixing this? Jul 14 11:32:35 Well, should the files be packaged? Jul 14 11:33:43 yes Jul 14 11:33:53 I installed and ran the executable and the libs ar eneeded Jul 14 11:34:17 JustinP: ok - the way to do that is to add additional files to be packaged Jul 14 11:34:30 the list of files that are packaged for each package is FILES_ Jul 14 11:34:40 So, if I had libfoo, the files list would be FILES_libfoo Jul 14 11:35:08 So += in any of the files you need Jul 14 11:35:17 ok, thanks Jul 14 11:35:19 Keep in mind the path to use is the target path, not the actual path Jul 14 11:35:27 ie, /usr/bin, not ${D}/usr/bin Jul 14 11:36:11 thanks Jul 14 11:38:36 ${bindir} rather Jul 14 11:38:43 don't use hardcoded paths Jul 14 11:38:43 yes... :) Jul 14 11:39:37 ok Jul 14 11:39:53 ${libdir} for libs then? Jul 14 11:40:08 (trying ti myself) Jul 14 11:42:08 yep, that works. Thanks Jul 14 11:42:29 JustinP: in the future, you can also add additional packages by modifying the PACKAGES variable Jul 14 11:47:19 that might be a possibility I suppose. Have a libs package and a program package. I'm not sure how many other programs depend on these libs, though...certainly nothing in OE so far. Jul 14 12:23:35 zecke: official OE site can't handle a db download? Jul 14 12:25:52 Luke-Jr: hh.org gets short on storage Jul 14 12:26:34 Luke-Jr: and I want to put people from "Couldn't we do XYZ" Jul 14 12:26:50 Luke-Jr: into the I can provide "CVS/SVN, download access" at my site Jul 14 12:27:27 Luke-Jr: if one would decide to switch to cogito next month, the day after people would start to complain about used disk space... Jul 14 12:28:57 Luke-Jr: and for people like reenoo_ (people who did commit) I would temporarily sync their database(s) with mine and sync to the central server Jul 14 12:29:22 so they could do one mt sync a week (probably before breakfast) Jul 14 12:30:40 o.o Jul 14 12:31:09 Luke-Jr: ? Jul 14 12:31:16 more details than I expected =p Jul 14 12:31:33 hehe Jul 14 12:32:02 I was just wondering about official site inability to store it ;) Jul 14 12:32:31 On the issue in general, I don't mind dealing w/ the pull time until Monotone ppl fix it Jul 14 12:39:24 hmm it took two minutes to sync and update my oe tree Jul 14 12:40:08 couldn't we put a mtn db file online without privkeys? Jul 14 12:40:37 Update isn't the problem - its the original push Jul 14 12:40:56 that reminds me, I need to get a openembedded.org alias for my DB at home Jul 14 12:41:02 * CosmicPenguin throws rocks at kergoth Jul 14 12:41:04 you around? Jul 14 12:41:21 I dunno. This update is taking twenty-five minutes and counting here. Though granted, I am on one of those 500 MHz machines. Jul 14 12:44:11 koen|ewi: I volunteered to put them online, I just need storage Jul 14 12:45:06 putting a db file online sounds like a really gross hack to me. basically, if that's a realistic option, monotone's netsync algorithm is way more broken than I want to consider Jul 14 12:46:31 zecke: the ewi box has storage Jul 14 12:47:05 zecke: put it in /var/www/OE Jul 14 12:47:34 <[cc]smart> hi, somebody here who could discuss populate-var.sh and make decisions ? Jul 14 12:47:40 reenoo_: looking at the source it is the tree traversing Jul 14 12:47:57 reenoo_: from child to every leave/edge Jul 14 12:48:01 with any length Jul 14 12:48:22 [cc]smart: try the mailinglist (oe@handhelds.org) or bugzilla Jul 14 12:48:32 sounds like O(n^3) where n is the number of manifests Jul 14 12:48:40 ouch Jul 14 12:48:59 keturn: no netsync is fast in itself Jul 14 12:49:00 didn't one of erik anderson''s patches solve that? Jul 14 12:49:20 keturn: it is just is the graph traversing/checking Jul 14 12:50:45 reenoo_: revision.cc:90 Jul 14 12:52:04 ~bitchslap lilo Jul 14 12:52:04 * ibot beats the sh*t out of lilo Jul 14 12:52:45 zecke: sounds nasty Jul 14 12:52:46 * koen|ewi slaps lilo whit a sign that says: "wallops exist for a reason" Jul 14 12:53:01 and sadly I was not able to build a monotone that executes Jul 14 12:54:48 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2005-07/msg00099.html Jul 14 12:54:52 zecke: aborts? Jul 14 12:54:59 adding indices seems to speed it up too Jul 14 12:55:21 CosmicPenguin: some sort of stdc++ exception Jul 14 12:55:28 CosmicPenguin: could be my mismatch of the libs :} Jul 14 12:55:54 zecke: yeah, I remember I needed a fairly new version of boost Jul 14 12:57:56 zecke: for the record, why anything tree based would have to be worse than O(n log n) is beyound me. Jul 14 12:59:09 reenoo_: well each graph with any length, with renames... Jul 14 12:59:28 I could be mistaken but just the specification reads like a lot of effort Jul 14 13:00:00 reenoo_: checking each and every path (in the graph) among renames from each node to each other reachable with arbitary length Jul 14 13:01:07 and in the common case, does that do anything in the end, or just end up saying "process completed with status 0, new revisions verified, HTH HAND"? Jul 14 13:01:42 CosmicPenguin: std::length_error gets thrown here Jul 14 13:01:51 heh Jul 14 13:01:52 ugly Jul 14 13:01:57 ~lart C++ Jul 14 13:01:57 * ibot resizes C++'s terminal to 40x24 Jul 14 13:16:00 howdy people Jul 14 13:17:46 hi Jul 14 13:18:04 whats up? Jul 14 13:18:29 I'm probably going to submit another bb file today. :-) Jul 14 13:25:42 JustinP: for what, anything intresting? Jul 14 13:25:55 lineakd Jul 14 13:26:04 http://lineak.sourceforge.net/ Jul 14 13:26:52 I'm getting it set up to interpret my CE-RH2 (audio remote for Zaurus C3000) and to run mpc commands for me. :-) In other words, I can control my music player (mpd) like it was on the Sharp ROM but better. Jul 14 13:28:27 heh Jul 14 13:28:43 so monotone can't copy files?! Jul 14 13:29:20 reenoo_: can't it? Jul 14 13:29:31 i would assume it can Jul 14 13:29:47 monotone: expanding command 'cp' Jul 14 13:29:47 monotone: unknown command 'cp' Jul 14 13:29:53 monotone: expanding command 'copy' Jul 14 13:29:53 monotone: unknown command 'copy' Jul 14 13:30:19 and nothing wrt copying in their docs either Jul 14 13:31:24 cp, then monotone add Jul 14 13:31:34 that's not the same Jul 14 13:31:47 jbowler-away: yeah sadly it is not the same Jul 14 13:32:00 Isn't it? I'm not sure what happens when a file foo is added which has a revision history under some other name. Jul 14 13:32:18 They have identical revision IDs surely? Jul 14 13:32:22 jbowler-away: it's just a new file Jul 14 13:32:30 jbowler-away: revision history is lost Jul 14 13:32:51 which is well.. kind of backwards Jul 14 13:33:50 how often do you need to copy a file with all of its revision history? Jul 14 13:34:03 JustinP: I did it Jul 14 13:34:03 It's convenient when making a new .bb Jul 14 13:34:05 every time I update a .bb Jul 14 13:34:33 you could branch, mv it and merge Jul 14 13:34:38 I suppose...heh Jul 14 13:34:47 hehe, I'm sure copying will be added Jul 14 13:34:54 would be a simple change in the manifest Jul 14 13:34:58 just submit a feature request Jul 14 13:35:41 JustinP: dude. I want to get my work done. not develop an SCM Jul 14 13:36:21 I've never found an SCM which had that as an option. Jul 14 13:36:46 copying? Jul 14 13:36:55 bk had it Jul 14 13:37:56 Doing work using an SCM without doing work on the SCM. Jul 14 13:38:07 * chouimat|ibook is away: PUB Jul 14 13:39:23 jbowler-away: even svn has an 'svn cp' Jul 14 13:42:22 renoo_: did I tell you to develop it? No, I told you to submit a feature request. If enough people ask for it the devs will add it. Jul 14 13:42:50 JustinP: I Jul 14 13:42:51 err Jul 14 13:43:38 JustinP: I'm afraid I'm not into the "flood people with feature request" business. Jul 14 13:44:54 perforce has the 'integ' command, which is basically the same thing as a copy Jul 14 13:49:49 renoo_: well...if you don't ask you might ot get it Jul 14 14:01:23 CosmicPenguin: you don't need an openembedded.org address right now. just generate the key with such an address and we'll set one up eventually. Jul 14 14:01:35 zecke: if you want to play with it, there's monotone 0.19+ on my site. www.vanille.de/temp/ Jul 14 14:02:03 zecke: unfortunately it's more like monotone 0.20 since the patches apply to the rev where they have already changed netsync and cli interfaces Jul 14 14:02:09 that's why i couldn't play with it yet Jul 14 14:02:55 mickeyl: hehe I can not run monotone 20 Jul 14 14:03:00 the benchmarks are pretty amazing though Jul 14 14:03:10 almost halfed in some cases Jul 14 14:03:32 mickeyl: I would have ported your scripts last weekend if my compiled version would actually start... Jul 14 14:03:33 zecke_: thanks for your mail to oe@ btw., it was very good. Jul 14 14:03:43 zecke: try mine. :) Jul 14 14:04:08 i fixed the STL buggy and at least monotone --help seemed to work Jul 14 14:04:46 mickeyl: I do not trust your binaries. Maybe if the brother of your grandma signs the xdelta... Jul 14 14:04:52 mickeyl: show me the diff ;) Jul 14 14:04:54 fair enough :D Jul 14 14:05:07 mickeyl may we do such things at all? Jul 14 14:05:15 what things? Jul 14 14:06:59 I'm starting to get the feeling that I could probably port your scripts in the time that it would take this monotone pull to finish, Jul 14 14:07:03 ah crap, my machine cant live without /lib64, ooops Jul 14 14:07:30 but you'd still have to have the time to integrate and test and upgrade crap Jul 14 14:09:58 well for a start, someone could check if viewmtn 0.03 still works with mt 0.20 Jul 14 14:10:50 that's why i hate parsing cmdline output... Jul 14 14:10:57 mickeyl: good news, inotify has landed Jul 14 14:11:03 woot!! really?? Jul 14 14:11:06 * mickeyl dances a jig Jul 14 14:11:09 mickeyl: yep Jul 14 14:11:11 * mickeyl reads lkml Jul 14 14:11:23 now that's the best news this week Jul 14 14:13:06 mickeyl: http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9a556e89081b0c1c2f83cee915363b15a68a6f2d Jul 14 14:13:18 mickeyl: http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=0eeca28300df110bd6ed54b31193c83b87921443 Jul 14 14:13:24 for the initial inotify patch Jul 14 14:13:26 excellent. this is really good. Jul 14 14:14:49 now i can finish that /opt/QtPalmtop/app recursive watch to make new apps automatically appear :) Jul 14 14:17:28 ~seen RP Jul 14 14:17:29 rp is currently on #openzaurus #gpe #handhelds.org #oe Jul 14 14:18:10 yay Jul 14 14:20:08 latest viewmtn version is still 0.3, the net.venge.monotone installation works and I don't see any recent viewmtn complaints on the monotone-dev list. Jul 14 14:20:55 hmm that's right Jul 14 14:21:41 let's see how much spare time I have on weekend... perhaps I can try 0.20 on the server Jul 14 14:22:12 i just don't want to lose our commit messages Jul 14 14:23:29 hmm the git web interface is much nicer than viewmtn Jul 14 14:23:44 * keturn 's pull is up to 100 cpu minutes and counting. Jul 14 14:24:01 keturn: is this your first pull? Jul 14 14:24:15 no, this is an update from a pull a week ago Jul 14 14:24:25 well a week's worth will take a little while to update Jul 14 14:24:54 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r3e0e75c3... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added patch and util-linux Jul 14 14:24:58 03mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r626d9cf0... 10/packages/ (mpd/mpd_0.11.2.bb musicpd/mpd_0.11.2.bb): move mpd into musicpd directory Jul 14 14:25:04 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r69c4e49f... 10/packages/thttpd/ (files/init thttpd_2.25b.bb): Fixed so initscript starts thttpd with the right path Jul 14 14:26:28 haha I have just upgraded to monotone .20 :} Jul 14 14:26:56 excellent Jul 14 14:26:58 hey mithro Jul 14 14:27:16 is it just viewmtn and ciabot_monotone.py, or is there more? Jul 14 14:27:29 keturn: it's just those two which i patched Jul 14 14:27:39 my patches won't make a problem though Jul 14 14:27:43 i didn't touch the cmdline interface Jul 14 14:29:53 mickeyl: ciabot_ has a changed datatype for descrbing the server and branches Jul 14 14:29:54 I see about three lines in ciabot_monotone.Monotone which were changed, so yeah, that is hopefully not a problem Jul 14 14:30:10 mickeyl: it would help if you've a diff for your changes ;) Jul 14 14:30:19 (is see you used patcher but the .patches dir is empty) Jul 14 14:30:23 zecke: i was afraid of you saying that... Jul 14 14:30:29 * mickeyl tries to do a patch Jul 14 14:31:19 as long as our ciabot configuration only has one thing in the watchlist, it really doesn't matter. (except for making a smaller diff with upstream) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 14:33:08 2005 Jul 14 14:40:04 zecke: hi Jul 14 14:45:41 pals, feel free to fix the grammar in the remaining files... Jul 14 14:46:14 mickeyl: I find it amusing people think S, LICENSE and PACKAGES may not be quoted :} Jul 14 14:46:50 when we started with OE we had a lot of different forms, with spaces, without spaces, quoted, not quoted, single quotes, double qoutes, etc. Jul 14 14:47:03 this has to go into a policy document Jul 14 14:47:29 e.g. http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/StyleGuide Jul 14 14:47:36 mickeyl: cat bitbakeparser.l Jul 14 14:48:17 mickeyl: two rules no space behind \ Jul 14 14:48:32 mickeyl: and use quotes (actually i strictened the lexer for that) Jul 14 14:48:43 ok, godo Jul 14 14:48:45 s/godo/good/ Jul 14 14:50:35 mickeyl: btw, my koen@dominion address is down till I hit the reset switch, koen@handhelds.org does work Jul 14 14:50:46 koen|ewi: understood. Jul 14 15:02:38 g'night Jul 14 15:02:47 mickey|zzZZzz: cya Jul 14 15:02:56 mickey|zzZZzz: it stops on the first error Jul 14 15:03:37 * JustinP quietly posts a monotone feature request Jul 14 15:06:48 "Suck less" Jul 14 15:06:48 :) Jul 14 15:06:54 good night gentlemen ^^ Jul 14 15:07:09 'night mickey|zzZZzz Jul 14 15:27:48 cya Jul 14 15:27:57 treke: hehe Jul 14 15:50:51 03rw 07org.openembedded.dev * r67b26231... 10/packages/ (19 files in 15 dirs): update my email address in MAINTAINER fields. Jul 14 15:51:16 there we go Jul 14 16:11:06 does anyone know which package provides xev? Jul 14 16:16:33 probably none at this point Jul 14 16:16:43 hmmm.... Jul 14 16:17:00 Its in the xapps CVS tree though, so you could just copy, say xdpyinfo Jul 14 16:17:23 and s/xdpyinfo/xev/ Jul 14 16:17:26 http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fxapps Jul 14 16:27:08 * france is back (gone 18:09:29) Jul 14 16:28:31 * france is away: Away Jul 14 16:39:54 CosmicPenguin: that won't work Jul 14 16:40:31 CosmicPenguin: you'd have to patch out any use of XIM first Jul 14 16:43:34 hello, is mickey here Jul 14 16:44:58 ack! XIM! Jul 14 16:46:36 I have a .bb and an autotoolization patch here.. so, if anybody wants to have a go at patching out XIM, let me know.. Jul 14 16:48:51 we got an contact request for motorola linux phone by michael lauer, because kernel source are now available Jul 14 16:50:16 11:59PM g'night Jul 14 16:50:16 -:- mickeyl is now known as mickey|zzZZzz Jul 14 16:50:32 ok, so *where* can I find the xev source code? Jul 14 16:50:43 ok not seen, hes sleeping Jul 14 16:50:55 JustinP: fd.o CVS? Jul 14 16:51:26 no tarballs, huh...? Jul 14 16:51:31 I didn't see any on that page Jul 14 16:52:48 it may be part of an Xorg release Jul 14 16:53:07 but there are no separate tarballs of xev Jul 14 16:53:37 well I just meant a tarball with xev in it.. Jul 14 16:53:47 I'm grepping my work dir...but I don't know if that will have it Jul 14 17:09:40 argh!! Jul 14 17:09:53 ok, back to trying to compile emacs....it's not finding the work dir Jul 14 17:09:57 I have no idea why Jul 14 17:12:38 there's no reason that this should be having problems, the dir is named like any other program I just compiled Jul 14 17:14:27 CONFIGURE DAMMIT! Jul 14 17:15:28 good night Jul 14 17:15:46 I set S to the full path, no vars, and still nothing Jul 14 17:15:51 night pascal Jul 14 17:30:22 'night all Jul 14 19:55:46 anyone knows what this means: arm-linux-gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple languages --- error on libxsettings Jul 14 19:56:12 error on gpe-image Jul 14 20:05:52 kestrel: is that with an OE-built gcc or with an external toolchain? Jul 14 20:21:41 * chouimat|ibook is back. Jul 14 20:25:08 koen|ewi: i simply did a bitbake gpe-image... and that error came out Jul 14 20:25:25 so, i assumed it's the OE built gcc Jul 14 20:25:35 yep Jul 14 20:25:46 i'm using latest mt pull Jul 14 20:25:55 try it... Jul 14 22:25:51 hmm Jul 14 22:26:10 i hate it when i misplace datasheets ... Jul 14 22:28:09 aha Jul 14 22:34:13 how do I set the cvs version of something? the newest gnu-config-native is failing a patch Jul 14 22:36:19 well its not rocket science ... maybe take a look at your local.conf or your machine Jul 14 22:36:55 I know...but I don't know the var to put in the local.conf Jul 14 22:37:12 take a wild guess Jul 14 22:37:39 I *did* and it didnt't work Jul 14 22:37:53 what was your guess Jul 14 22:37:59 PREFERRED_VERSION_gnu-config-native didn't work Jul 14 22:38:18 that doesnt set cvs Jul 14 22:38:42 try somthing that has tewh keyword cvs Jul 14 22:38:45 the* Jul 14 22:39:21 preferred only accepts and uses meta versions of taht package Jul 14 22:39:39 cvs is not normally a meta version Jul 14 22:40:00 er hmm i should rephrase that Jul 14 22:40:30 cvs provides the meta version dynamically as per latest OR date specified Jul 14 22:40:52 * JustinP waits for bitbake to parse again Jul 14 22:42:23 you find it? Jul 14 22:42:40 CVSDATE = 20050222 is an example of what you want Jul 14 22:42:44 how should I know Jul 14 22:42:47 argh Jul 14 22:43:07 well you could look for what you want Jul 14 22:43:18 ok.. Jul 14 22:43:26 its not that hard to grep -R CVS packages/* Jul 14 22:43:46 dont think you need the -R Jul 14 22:43:49 whoops. wrong window heh Jul 14 22:44:17 alright back to irda programming Jul 14 22:46:46 <__law__> i have build gaim 1.4.0 perhabs someone can add this into the oe repo (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148) Jul 14 22:47:16 how about a sentance that makes sense? Jul 14 22:51:25 anyone tried a symbol spectrum WLAN card on poodle 3.5.3 ? Jul 14 22:51:53 i still have the same problem of : hermes_read_ltv() rid does not match type Jul 14 22:51:56 most of the symbol cards are prism i belive Jul 14 22:51:57 weird Jul 14 22:52:16 i'm using the orinoco driver Jul 14 22:52:23 orinoco0.13e Jul 14 22:52:30 * emte could be wrong Jul 14 22:52:47 i forget who worked on/for symbol ... someone here did Jul 14 22:53:25 i think it's mickeyl Jul 14 22:53:42 no ... i dont think so Jul 14 22:53:44 but it's early in the morning in germany Jul 14 22:53:59 i already search the orinco mailing list.. Jul 14 22:54:03 his name was there... Jul 14 22:54:19 plus what he found out about ARM plus orinoco drivers Jul 14 22:54:20 yes it would be Jul 14 22:54:47 he wrote weliblahblah (something i cant spell) ritter Jul 14 23:34:15 good morning Jul 14 23:47:41 <__law__> morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 23:59:56 2005