**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 28 23:59:56 2005 Jul 29 00:24:36 morning Jul 29 00:25:34 morning hrw|work Jul 29 00:26:47 hi Dirk Jul 29 00:51:13 Hi. Is this the channel where I can post questions about cramfs , xip ? Jul 29 00:52:04 I'm trying to mount a cramfs using loopback, but is the physaddr relevant for that ? Jul 29 00:55:18 j4p13j0: wrong channel Jul 29 00:56:04 hmm, ok, where do I go ? #openzaurus ? #handhelds ? Jul 29 01:00:10 good morning Jul 29 01:00:15 hi florian_kc Jul 29 01:05:23 morning Jul 29 01:14:15 morning all Jul 29 01:14:42 hi RP Jul 29 01:14:49 ~lart konq/e Jul 29 01:14:50 * ibot acting on orders from an unspecified client drags konq/e into court suing for $200 million Jul 29 01:14:54 hi RP Jul 29 01:16:15 morning Jul 29 01:16:38 hi CoreDump|home Jul 29 01:19:26 hi CoreDump|home Jul 29 01:50:45 good morning Jul 29 01:51:34 hi Bernardo Jul 29 02:03:10 hi Bernardo Jul 29 02:09:45 CoreDump|home: Do you have a updated feed for the hentges rom, or should I use the oz3.5.3 updates for now? Jul 29 02:10:10 Bernardo: nope, no feed Jul 29 02:10:30 would take too long to upload w/ my crappy uplink Jul 29 02:11:00 :) I know how it is Jul 29 02:11:28 I tried using the one I had generated in the beginning of may Jul 29 02:11:49 but now mplayed won't load with a SDL error Jul 29 02:11:58 * Bernardo needs to get oe working on his machine again Jul 29 02:12:08 doh Jul 29 02:12:26 well, a working SDL is installed in the default image :) Jul 29 02:12:51 but damn, prboom is slow Jul 29 02:12:55 I don't think I updated it... Maybe some crap left behind from the sharp rom Jul 29 02:13:19 prboom works for me Jul 29 02:13:33 it works but is very slow in 640x480 Jul 29 02:13:41 oops - doesn't work anymore Jul 29 02:13:45 heh Jul 29 02:13:59 it looks like I had some "behind the scenes" "update" of sdl Jul 29 02:14:06 when I installed something else Jul 29 02:14:21 you probably "upgraded" from CVS to 1.2.0 Jul 29 02:14:26 ~lart ipkg Jul 29 02:14:26 * ibot squishes ipkg like a bug Jul 29 02:14:49 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfd4c098d... 10/packages/ (12 files in 11 dirs): Jul 29 02:14:49 added ipkg 0.99.152 Jul 29 02:14:49 cleaned ipkg subdir (one copy of terse.patch is enough) Jul 29 02:14:52 * Bernardo suddenly feels even dumber than usual - the sdl with errors is the one in /home/QtPalmtop/lib Jul 29 02:15:09 heh Jul 29 02:15:22 crap left from sharp's rom... :( Jul 29 02:15:52 get rid of it ;) Jul 29 02:16:14 "rm -rf /home/QtPalmtop/lib" done Jul 29 02:16:31 :( Jul 29 02:16:45 might as well trash /home/QtPalmtop Jul 29 02:17:06 yep Jul 29 02:17:25 damn, nemo's demo shows in 480x640 and slow Jul 29 02:18:30 CoreDump|home: will do that. I just need to check where are the iqnotes files Jul 29 02:18:44 * CoreDump|home has no idea Jul 29 02:19:14 :) Jul 29 02:19:40 I do need to get my build env back up... I want bvdd output support in mplayer! :) Jul 29 02:19:50 $HOME/application/iqnotes/ iirc Jul 29 02:20:56 hrw|work: thanks. Jul 29 02:22:12 Bernardo: that would rock, if I only have a CXX00 Jul 29 02:22:31 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r88cf8035... 10/packages/python/python-scapy_0.9.17.bb: fixed SRC_URI for python-scapy Jul 29 02:23:30 XorA: it's on my list as soon as I can get monotone installed and download a updated oe env. That and support for the rt2570 802.11g usb sticks Jul 29 02:24:14 it is detected, just need to build the driver for our kernel Jul 29 03:02:55 http://pastebin.com/324501 - dbus want expat? Jul 29 03:04:40 looks like it Jul 29 03:04:57 and fwiw: opensync 0.11 is horribly outdated Jul 29 03:06:11 I have a .bb for 0.17, but that lacks a do_stage() Jul 29 03:06:27 0.11 is not fetchable anyway Jul 29 03:09:53 XorA: in the oz 3.5.3 changelog is a line saying you had added bvdd support to mplayer? Jul 29 03:22:37 ~lart wrt people for lack of deps in packages Jul 29 03:22:37 * ibot strangles wrt people with a doohicky mouse cord for lack of deps in packages Jul 29 03:28:11 Bernardo: I added --enable-bvdd like for spitz and akita in hope someone would build reast that was required, its for mplayer-atty Jul 29 03:30:06 ok... Coredump's rom has a mplayer without bvdd (and the bvdd module isn't being installed too Jul 29 03:30:42 http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/29/78 Jul 29 03:31:10 Bernardo: mplayer-atty has pxa optimisations, w100 and bvdd support Jul 29 03:32:42 RP: I hope too Jul 29 03:33:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re56174b3... 10/conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf: Apply hx4700 patch from Philipp Zabel and clean up a bit Jul 29 03:34:01 hrw|work: I've had enough of the input maintainer ignoring me ;-) Jul 29 03:34:39 XorA: the one I had built on 0428 also has bvdd support, but since the kernel in CoreDump's rom doesn't include the bvdd module, it won't work Jul 29 03:34:53 Yay - akpm has taken the whole lot into the -mm tree :) Jul 29 03:35:05 RP: :D Jul 29 03:35:13 Linux OpenWrt 2.4.30 #1 Wed May 25 16:25:58 EDT 2005 mips unknown Jul 29 03:35:15 ;) Jul 29 03:35:37 Who broke ipkg? Jul 29 03:35:46 I? Jul 29 03:36:08 removed the wrong terse.patch? Jul 29 03:36:25 I moved terse.patch into packages/ipkg/ipkg/ Jul 29 03:36:32 hmm.. forgot to push it? Jul 29 03:36:55 Add file: packages/ipkg/ipkg/terse.patch Jul 29 03:36:57 hm.. Jul 29 03:41:12 re from router Jul 29 03:41:18 Linux OpenWrt 2.4.30 #1 Wed May 25 16:25:58 EDT 2005 mips unknown Jul 29 03:41:36 I will finally start to irc from router Jul 29 03:43:14 hey Jul 29 03:43:22 hey zecke_ Jul 29 03:46:56 hi all Jul 29 03:49:08 hey Jul 29 03:49:18 hi zecke_ Jul 29 03:49:24 bluelightning: how are you? Jul 29 03:49:43 zecke_: I'm ok... and you? Jul 29 03:50:12 gotta go to work,later all Jul 29 03:50:14 hrw|work: http://www.hrw.one.pl/_pliki/oe/files/qpf-dejavusans-1.11.tar.bz2 Jul 29 03:50:23 zecke_: server died Jul 29 03:50:30 hrw|work: ah okay Jul 29 03:55:57 how to I tell bitbake to build xserver-kdrive from cvs instead of 20050207? Jul 29 03:56:42 bitbake -b packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_cvs.bb Jul 29 03:59:03 koen: thanks. i thought it could be done with PREFERRED_VERSION somehow. Jul 29 04:00:23 pH5: that might work as well Jul 29 04:03:11 RP: apart from some small issues (the miplv6 thing, missing defconfig) ipaq-pxa270 should be ready for you to add hx2750 support Jul 29 04:06:15 hrw|work: i see... it is there, but for some nasty reason bitbake doesn't find it. Jul 29 04:08:13 hmm.. 0.99.152 builds for me in both versions Jul 29 04:13:58 hrw|work: here it is the native one with latest bitbake and oe from one hour ago. Jul 29 04:15:05 hrw|work: eh... what i build is "ipkg-native", bitbake won't look into the "ipkg" subdirectory in this case imho. Jul 29 04:15:37 hrw|work: do you maybe still have a copy of this file in the "files" subdir? Jul 29 04:16:11 hmm.. could you move it then? Jul 29 04:16:36 yep... Jul 29 04:17:57 * koen admires the green in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/OpenEmbeddedBuild/status.html Jul 29 04:18:36 very good... Jul 29 04:19:13 * florian_kc makes sure this will stay green Jul 29 04:20:05 interesting, there's a web frontend now... Jul 29 04:20:22 obviously I've been ignoring OE for too long ;) Jul 29 04:20:43 hehe Jul 29 04:21:22 these monotone server don't seem to be what i call stable :-/ Jul 29 04:21:38 nope Jul 29 04:22:02 that's why we have some many of them Jul 29 04:22:19 yeah Jul 29 04:22:36 * florian_kc pulls from ewi Jul 29 04:26:56 koen: I'm going to have to use hh.org's kernel tree though? Jul 29 04:29:28 hi everyone Jul 29 04:30:09 hi Laibsch Jul 29 04:31:07 hi Laibsch Jul 29 04:31:11 hi rwhitby Jul 29 04:32:05 RP: at the moment, yes Jul 29 04:32:28 florian_kc: it is a broken router in mickeyls office Jul 29 04:32:30 RP: but I want to switch to mainline as soon as the hx4700 patches get upstreamed Jul 29 04:32:51 RP: or you could uses some flag or overrides Jul 29 04:32:58 zecke_: oh Jul 29 04:32:58 hrw|work: g'day Jul 29 04:33:26 The hx4700 support looks pretty good... Jul 29 04:33:39 when are you guys going to set up monotone.openembedded.org on a stable host :-) Jul 29 04:35:25 when we have a stable host Jul 29 04:35:44 HP shutting doing CRL delayed the monotone repo on hh.org a bit Jul 29 04:43:50 yeah hh.org has other prios now Jul 29 04:43:54 1) secure the future Jul 29 04:49:53 which char is separator in FILESDIR? Jul 29 04:51:58 ignore Jul 29 04:54:25 florian_kc: I moved file Jul 29 04:56:51 ;) both.. Jul 29 04:56:54 RP: you could do KSOURCE = "mainline" in local.conf and 'include ${KSOURCE}/conf' in ipaq-pxa270.conf Jul 29 04:57:46 13:57 hrw@work:ipkg$ monotone list unknown|wc Jul 29 04:57:46 6365 6365 649511 Jul 29 04:57:51 ~curse monotone Jul 29 04:57:51 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, monotone ! Jul 29 04:58:20 its too fscking easy to get repo which have all files as unknown... Jul 29 04:58:24 s/repo/working copy Jul 29 05:09:09 koen: Ok, I'll look into doing something like that, thanks Jul 29 05:09:22 mickeyl: Are you there? Jul 29 05:09:47 * zecke_ things we should put a big DIGITAL banner on hh.org Jul 29 05:12:12 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2b694019... 10/packages/lyx/lyx_1.3.6.bb: add LyX, a sophisticated document processor based on the LaTeX markup language Jul 29 05:12:13 how many versions of ipkg we need? Jul 29 05:12:16 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re435b5d3... 10/packages/unionfs/ (5 files): add unionfs modules and userland utilities 1.0.13 Jul 29 05:12:20 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1534619d... 10/classes/qt3x11.bbclass: disable XIM for qt3 to make it link against diet-x11 Jul 29 05:12:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r38160165... 10/packages/qt/qt-x11-free_3.3.3.bb: qt-x11: non-functional improvements Jul 29 05:12:58 * RP wonders if mickeyl is doing his PhD in lyx :) Jul 29 05:13:02 we have 129, 130, 135, 138, 140, 144, 146, 147, 148, 151, 152 - 151 is ugly Jul 29 05:13:43 RP: no kidding Jul 29 05:13:48 RP: I wrote my M.A. thesis in gvim (compiled using LaTeX 2e) Jul 29 05:14:09 My degree work was done in lyx... Jul 29 05:14:16 lyx was ugly Jul 29 05:14:22 s/M.A/M.S Jul 29 05:14:25 * zecke_ writes all his stuff and compiles it with LaTeX Jul 29 05:14:29 those english names... Jul 29 05:15:09 Lyx meant I never had to go too deeply into LaTeX which was useful at the time Jul 29 05:15:29 RP: same seems to apply to mickeyl Jul 29 05:15:38 why not KLyx? Jul 29 05:16:58 hrw|work: I'm not sure that existed then. If it did, I never knew about it Jul 29 05:17:43 oops.. Jul 29 05:17:45 kile - KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment Jul 29 05:17:51 I meant kile.. Jul 29 05:18:17 anyway.. lyx has qt ui also now Jul 29 05:21:14 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * ra7d3ff00... 10/packages/perl/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix perl so (hopefully) it works on both arm and armeb Jul 29 05:21:18 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r12ed033e... 10/packages/ipkg/ (ipkg/terse.patch files/terse.patch): Move file to make sure bitmake finds it building the -native packages. Jul 29 05:21:37 hrw|work: i moved that file ;-) Jul 29 05:23:15 florian_kc: I moved it too ;) Jul 29 05:23:45 hrw|work: according to CIA i won ;-) Jul 29 05:24:16 florian_kc: I didnt sync it yet Jul 29 05:24:34 For some nasty reason the setting of the deault kernel on collie.conf doesn't work. Jul 29 05:27:09 show DISTRO_TYPE Jul 29 05:30:47 ah.. i sse why Jul 29 05:31:14 It doesn't get selected because i don't have the necessary compiler. Jul 29 05:32:05 ~lart Embedix Jul 29 05:32:05 * ibot hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at Embedix Jul 29 05:38:10 LyX rules! Jul 29 05:39:55 ~lart xforms Jul 29 05:39:55 * ibot readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at xforms Jul 29 05:42:54 koen: hehe... i had the same idea when a colleague asked for Tex on the 770 :-) Jul 29 05:46:20 * koen merges Jul 29 05:51:37 * florian_kc can imagine koen waiting.... Jul 29 05:51:46 hi jamey Jul 29 05:52:12 * koen waits for Lyx to finish baking Jul 29 05:55:54 hi florian_kc Jul 29 05:58:33 koen: i want to see a screenshot! Jul 29 05:59:13 * hrw|work builds all ipkg/ipkg-native versions Jul 29 05:59:39 someone can du -h packages/ipkg/*.bb for me? Jul 29 06:00:02 if I change package from ipkg to tar, do I need to replace all IPKG_INSTALL to TAR_INSTALL ? Jul 29 06:00:13 here it is 3609 bytes in 25 files Jul 29 06:00:33 micropal: in local.conf add INHERIT += "package_tar" and test Jul 29 06:02:39 ok, but in bootstrap_image.bb I have an 'export IPKG_INSTALL = "task_bootstrap"'. Do I need to change this to TAR_INSTALL? Jul 29 06:02:41 florian_kc: It's crunching over QT stuff now Jul 29 06:02:58 * zecke_ too Jul 29 06:03:11 koen: uh no :-( Jul 29 06:03:27 micropal: iirc there is no image_tar class working Jul 29 06:04:04 yep Jul 29 06:04:47 * koen waits for uicmoc to finish Jul 29 06:13:13 zecke_: http://pastebin.ca/18775 - how bitbake interactive react for ":" Jul 29 06:22:33 * koen frowns Jul 29 06:22:34 NOTE: package mysql-native-4.1.12-r3: task do_fetch: started Jul 29 06:22:40 for Lyx?!?! Jul 29 06:23:02 ;)) Jul 29 06:23:24 hrw|work: lol Jul 29 06:23:37 koen: Look to schurig ;) Jul 29 06:23:53 koen: he needs the Qt3 mysql plugin... or though he would need it Jul 29 06:23:54 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5288b95b... 10/packages/ipkg/ (ipkg/terse.patch files/terse.patch): ipkg: move terse.patch into files/ to get all versions building Jul 29 06:23:58 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2182f4fd... 10/packages/ipkg/ (22 files): Jul 29 06:23:58 simplify ipkg(-native) structure Jul 29 06:23:58 merged all common code into ipkg.inc and ipkg-native.inc Jul 29 06:24:03 koen: a strong indicator for the need of a USE flag Jul 29 06:24:12 zecke_: mysql isn't in my STAGING Jul 29 06:24:22 zecke_: can I delete the qt .bbs from the repo now? Jul 29 06:24:29 Jul 29 06:24:46 koen: heh Jul 29 06:24:54 hrw|work: good work! Jul 29 06:25:24 koen: go ahead and don't propage your branch to .dev ;) Jul 29 06:26:08 * koen looks at the tinderbox Jul 29 06:26:11 still green for me! Jul 29 06:26:36 ~lart pcmcia-cs for failing to build for x86 Jul 29 06:26:37 * ibot takes out a cattle prod and gives pcmcia-cs for failing to build a good jolt for x86 Jul 29 06:46:09 ~lart rsync for changing versions so quickly Jul 29 06:46:09 * ibot gives rsync a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" for changing versions so quickly Jul 29 06:48:10 finally: NOTE: package lyx-1.3.6: started Jul 29 06:49:57 hi Jul 29 06:50:35 hmm.. 5M ram free... Jul 29 06:50:38 total used free shared buffers Jul 29 06:50:40 Mem: 30344 24724 5620 0 860 Jul 29 06:50:42 Swap: 0 0 0 Jul 29 06:50:45 Total: 30344 24724 5620 Jul 29 06:51:01 hrw|wrt: add the sdcard hack and use it as swap Jul 29 06:51:33 koen: and nokiafb to have hilights when not conected to screen? Jul 29 06:52:12 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r27bac774... 10/packages/rsync/rsync_2.6.6.bb: Added new version of rsync (updated upstream). Jul 29 06:52:45 hrw|wrt: that, or the vga hack Jul 29 06:53:53 koen: lack of monitor with 2 inputs Jul 29 07:03:30 * koen ipkg install lyx Jul 29 07:04:25 koen: weee Jul 29 07:11:08 koen: does it work? Jul 29 07:18:04 It OOMed on installing Jul 29 07:18:12 * koen /etc/init.d/gpe-dm start Jul 29 07:18:26 oops Jul 29 07:23:41 http://handhelds.org/scap/land.21202.png Jul 29 07:24:46 the mono font looks so ugly because it's dejavu Jul 29 07:25:21 koen: heh heh, you on a roll Jul 29 07:25:38 all credits goes to mickeyl for adding LyX Jul 29 07:26:16 koen: but get back to making evince and gnumeric work :-) Jul 29 07:26:23 :) Jul 29 07:27:55 koen: how big is qt3/x11 for arm? Jul 29 07:28:03 and after that a d20 charater manager for GPE Jul 29 07:28:25 hrw|wrt: lyx + deps is 12M on flash Jul 29 07:28:29 ok Jul 29 07:28:31 thx Jul 29 07:29:22 284K qt-x11-plugins_3.3.3-r6_arm.ipk Jul 29 07:29:52 4.0K libqt-mt-dev_3.3.3-r6_arm.ipk Jul 29 07:29:52 3.9M libqt-mt3_3.3.3-r6_arm.ipk Jul 29 07:29:52 60K libqtaux2-1_1.2.0+cvs-20050720-r0_arm.ipk Jul 29 07:31:57 1.4M libqte2_2.3.10-r22_c7x0.ipk Jul 29 07:32:27 so it's 2.5M bigger Jul 29 07:33:54 cu Jul 29 07:36:20 koen: cool! Jul 29 07:55:55 hmmm Jul 29 07:56:03 vanille seems dead Jul 29 07:56:17 so i try pulling from the uttwente address Jul 29 07:56:32 and get anon access to *.koen branch denied Jul 29 07:58:19 "org.openembedded.{dev,nslu2-linux,dreambox}" Jul 29 07:58:25 use that as a branch selector Jul 29 08:00:01 thanks Jul 29 08:01:26 Should I change the wiki accordingly? I assuem that will work for both repos? Jul 29 08:01:47 right Jul 29 08:02:25 done Jul 29 08:02:26 zecke_: that ssh commandline I mailed you and mickeyl doesn't work as expected Jul 29 08:02:44 koen: I did not check mail yet Jul 29 08:02:56 hi zecke_ Jul 29 08:02:57 ok Jul 29 08:04:04 pb_: did I make you angry? no hail for me? Jul 29 08:04:06 :( Jul 29 08:04:15 considers copying suicide bunny Jul 29 08:04:38 * zecke_ will soon be a proud owner of a iBook Jul 29 08:04:39 argh. quilt fails ('succeeds') miserably if there is a directory called 'patches' somewhere up the directory structure. Jul 29 08:04:57 pH5: right Jul 29 08:05:26 yes it does Jul 29 08:06:03 pH5: I filed a bug report once. Answer is go to the directory create patches directory start using quilt Jul 29 08:06:42 pH5: feel free to provide a patch for bitbake.conf to follow that order?! without breaking patches, or breaking if that directory already exists Jul 29 08:06:43 how helpfull Jul 29 08:07:08 * zecke_ uses a local patch here. It ain't a quilt dir if there is no .pc directory Jul 29 08:07:22 'quilt doesn't work', 'manage your patches with quilt to make it work' Jul 29 08:08:35 Recent versions of quilt don't walk backward for 'new' commands Jul 29 08:16:21 zecke_: do you mean something like this: http://pastebin.ca/18783 Jul 29 08:21:57 zecke_: one of them new ibooks? Jul 29 08:22:16 zecke_: the ones my girlfriend has been talking about nonstop? Jul 29 08:24:18 hail zecke_ Jul 29 08:25:24 koen: with bt, and more ram included? yeah Jul 29 08:25:42 that's the one :) Jul 29 08:25:55 yeah baby yeah Jul 29 08:26:23 tinderbox is all green now Jul 29 08:26:38 koen: I'm starting meta-opie now... Jul 29 08:47:24 is philipp.zabel here? Jul 29 08:59:32 XorA: that's me Jul 29 09:02:57 pH5: thanks for confirming X thing Jul 29 09:03:14 pH5: Ive not had time to do that Jul 29 09:05:44 XorA: np, now if I only understood why Xfbdev mutes the serial console Jul 29 09:08:20 pH5: looking for a serial mouse? Jul 29 09:08:48 pH5: BTW what kernel version you running? Jul 29 09:09:59 XorA: 2.6.12-hh2+cvs20050727-r0 Jul 29 09:10:20 pH5: so multiple APM bug must be 2.6 core bug then Jul 29 09:11:04 after breaking ts keithp also removed console switching code from kdrive Jul 29 09:11:31 koen: 2.6 switches consoles by itself on suspend Jul 29 09:12:17 koen: The console switching removal is good. The killing of the serial port is a problem Jul 29 09:12:59 The multple apm thing is likely a kernel bug. Never had a chance to try and track it down though Jul 29 09:17:41 whats up peeps? Jul 29 09:20:27 time to run, cya Jul 29 09:21:14 hey mithro, still at WTH? Jul 29 09:37:33 koen: yeah Jul 29 09:37:43 i have to admit it's a bit boring :/ Jul 29 09:38:16 Hi. I think there is a bug/typo in the packages/module-init-tools/module-init-tools_3.2-pre7.bb ... everytime I try to ipkg install something, it tries to run the module-init-tools.postinst script and gets an error (so it keeps running it). It is trying to do the alternativs stuff to bin/lsmod instead of sbin/lsmod ... should I post to the mailing list, or to bugzilla? Jul 29 09:38:37 martin__: bugzilla Jul 29 09:38:43 and bugzilla will mail the list :) Jul 29 09:38:55 koen: I just realized I should try to see if adding a s fixes it. :D Jul 29 09:39:01 there are a bunch of people using OE in the wireless village but they kind of don't really talk to me Jul 29 09:40:54 to busy gettin OE working? Jul 29 09:41:02 where was the OE.db snapshot again? Can someone add the link to the gettingstarted instructions or the monotonphrasebook on the wiki (I would be willing)? Jul 29 09:41:08 koen: nah Jul 29 09:41:12 doing soldering and stuff Jul 29 09:41:15 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Jul 29 09:41:42 koen: thanks! Jul 29 09:44:22 the Xfbdev-kills-serial-port problem is indeed because of the serial mouse driver Jul 29 09:45:24 the new xserver-kdrive supports multiple mouse drivers and, after using tslib, opens the serial port, too. Jul 29 09:48:23 . Jul 29 10:07:51 re Jul 29 10:33:28 evening Jul 29 10:35:34 hello reenoo_ Jul 29 10:38:32 hey florian_kc Jul 29 10:45:07 koen: I can look into it Jul 29 10:45:19 koen: damn.. I can log in Jul 29 10:45:33 zecke_: you've lost me Jul 29 10:45:41 welcome ;) Jul 29 10:45:50 koen: using mickeyl instruction I'm able to login Jul 29 10:45:56 me too Jul 29 10:45:56 koen: and I see you logged in as well Jul 29 10:46:18 but if I use my cmdline monotime will run in that ssh session Jul 29 10:48:22 zecke_: I also wonder why my tinderbuild turned yellow Jul 29 10:48:38 koen: look into the legend Jul 29 10:48:44 koen: yellow is in progress Jul 29 10:49:14 let me rephrase: it used to be green Jul 29 10:49:28 it ended on 16:00 Jul 29 10:51:27 treke|home: ping Jul 29 10:51:47 hey zecke Jul 29 10:52:11 koen: buildstatus: building Jul 29 10:52:23 treke: can you add more than one QA contact? Jul 29 10:52:38 treke: add tinderbox-oeATgmx.net as a contact would rock Jul 29 10:52:51 where at? Jul 29 10:53:07 treke: in bugs.oe.org Jul 29 10:53:11 gimme a second Jul 29 10:53:37 can you give me a link to show me what you want changed? Jul 29 10:56:05 treke: I wish I could. I want every bugreport and change to be mailed to tinderbox-oeATgmx.net Jul 29 10:56:09 hmm Jul 29 10:56:16 I bet I can do that Jul 29 10:56:26 koen: how much RAM is minimo utilizing nowadays? Jul 29 10:57:01 zecke_: no idea, it doesn't build Jul 29 10:57:13 zecke_: I use gpe-mini-browser most of the time Jul 29 10:57:20 zecke_: for which products? Jul 29 10:57:21 koen: how much ram do you expect it to use Jul 29 10:57:33 treke: oe and bitbake if you could arrange it Jul 29 10:57:37 last I checked it used 25MB Jul 29 10:57:39 k Jul 29 10:57:41 let me see Jul 29 11:06:37 bingo Jul 29 11:06:43 there is a supportwatchers feature Jul 29 11:06:51 wow thanks Jul 29 11:06:58 koen: you're still building?! Jul 29 11:07:18 zecke_: here's the fun part. you have to add every user you want to watch :p Jul 29 11:07:39 zecke_: the old build finished ok, it's building *again* Jul 29 11:07:40 oe? Jul 29 11:07:53 treke: Oe takes care of most of the bugs? Jul 29 11:08:05 yeah, but if someone assigns the bugs to themselves Jul 29 11:09:11 treke: too bad Jul 29 11:09:25 stupid closed source drivers Jul 29 11:09:32 zecke_: I'm looking for a better way Jul 29 11:12:20 anyone want to talk about monotone usage scenarios? Jul 29 11:13:09 why not ;) Jul 29 11:13:42 Can I make a branch to keep my local work in? Jul 29 11:13:57 zecke_: what is the email address again? Jul 29 11:14:02 Forwrad my changes for approval with people with a clue? Jul 29 11:14:16 and have local people pull from my branch? Jul 29 11:14:18 ggilbert: tinderbox-oeATgmx.net Jul 29 11:14:29 Crofton: yes Jul 29 11:15:14 if my changes get into the main repo, will I have trouble pulling them into the local branch? Jul 29 11:15:20 ok Jul 29 11:15:30 you are set as the default qa contact Jul 29 11:15:41 so you should get mail regardless of who owns the bug Jul 29 11:15:47 let me know if it doesnt work :) Jul 29 11:22:35 Crofton: no, you just have to be carefull how to name your branches Jul 29 11:23:21 hmm Jul 29 11:23:24 how careful? Jul 29 11:24:23 as long as it starts with org.openembedded. it will be finea Jul 29 11:24:29 ok Jul 29 11:24:52 * koen has a org.openembedded.koen and a org.openembedded.MSP branch Jul 29 11:24:58 heh Jul 29 11:25:12 I know about the koen branch, anon access not allowed :) Jul 29 11:25:24 :) Jul 29 11:25:52 this is good Jul 29 11:26:16 I have some local people who will need changes that will be slow going into main repo Jul 29 11:27:33 I'm still learning how to do 'invisible' branches Jul 29 11:28:00 ones that don't popup during a netsync Jul 29 11:28:55 :) Jul 29 11:29:05 so, what happens if I have my own branch, I do a pull of the main db from vanille.de, and then someone who has not recently done a pull from the main db, syncs with me. will they get all the right stuff from vanille.de automatically? Jul 29 11:30:30 you can only sync with write access, Jul 29 11:30:49 and sync synchronizes, so stuff from vanille will get passed on Jul 29 11:30:59 ok. thanks. Jul 29 11:31:28 koen: why should a local branch start with org.openembedded? IMHO this is a *bad* thing as it makes it easier to confuse them and get the synced around. I'm using my own branch name and am having no problems whatsoeever. Jul 29 11:32:01 JustinP: we had some problems with it on monotone 0.19 Jul 29 11:33:30 koen: problems like what? I was using mine in 0.19 I think.... Jul 29 11:33:46 oh was it that glob thing? (or whatever it was) Jul 29 11:33:54 the glob thing is 0.20 :) Jul 29 11:34:01 ok, well the thing before lgob Jul 29 11:34:06 glob Jul 29 11:38:19 hmm I checked out a new copy of oe Jul 29 11:38:34 copied my local.conf and changed paths to the new location Jul 29 11:38:50 but bitbalke still know about the path to the old location Jul 29 11:46:28 treke: koen : cross your finger that gmx will not delay mails by 48 hours Jul 29 11:46:38 :) Jul 29 11:47:16 or the uni will open a case for me 'mailbombing' gmx Jul 29 11:47:56 koen: now you're only popping gmx far too ofeten Jul 29 11:48:16 :) Jul 29 11:48:33 how paths does OE/bitbake know about Jul 29 11:52:57 gah BBPATH Jul 29 12:04:00 So what is your opinion on gerwins invitation? Jul 29 12:06:47 cool Jul 29 12:06:56 last week of august sounds good Jul 29 12:07:09 after lowlands and before college starts again Jul 29 12:07:15 <[cc]smart> hi. i want to add default configuration files to cyrus-imapd. Where would i have to put these? Create a new directory packages/cyrus-imapd/files or so and pout it there ? Jul 29 12:09:08 on 22nd to 24th I will be at Novell/SuSE Jul 29 12:11:11 I'll be working the 22nd and be exhausted on the 23rd Jul 29 12:13:55 * zecke decides to sleep early today Jul 29 12:14:13 Who the hell is Claudia? Jul 29 12:14:21 :) Jul 29 12:14:51 CosmicPenguin: "Claudia hat 'n Schäferhund und den hat sie nicht ohne Grund" Jul 29 12:15:04 CosmicPenguin: it is a old song which was censored... Jul 29 12:15:15 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/bitbake_qa/Bitbake/status.html Jul 29 12:15:37 [cc]smart: there are two subdirs, one for each cyrus version Jul 29 12:15:37 koen: see the philb entry at 22:00 UTC Jul 29 12:15:53 [cc]smart: put it in cyrus-imapd-2.2.12 Jul 29 12:20:20 <[cc]smart> NAiL: it seems to me, the default configuration file would not be as version dependent as that. Do you think i should use these directories in spite of that ? E.g. if i compare to package/base-files where there is no version at all. or possibly a directory cyrus-imapd-2.2 ? i'm feeling very unsure due this... Jul 29 12:24:08 [cc]smart: well, if you're sure there's no differences (i.e. added features) between the versions, put it in files Jul 29 12:24:58 <[cc]smart> NAiL: there will be differences from time to time certainly. but i think not like in between third level subversions Jul 29 12:25:11 <[cc]smart> so maybe like creating a directory files Jul 29 12:25:11 ah Jul 29 12:25:19 yeah Jul 29 12:25:22 <[cc]smart> and saving the configs as "config.2.2" Jul 29 12:25:28 yeah Jul 29 12:25:35 <[cc]smart> just dunno Jul 29 12:25:39 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r23ed44fb... 10/packages/initscripts/initscripts-1.0/volatiles: Added /var/lib/ipkg to fix bug #216 as reported by Adrian Day and solved by jbowler. Added more explanations for links. Jul 29 12:25:46 that's the alternative that makes the most sense Jul 29 12:25:57 <[cc]smart> was hoping i get advise here since with such stuff i should not be the first Jul 29 12:26:18 koen: ping? Jul 29 12:26:56 zecke: cool Jul 29 12:26:59 NAiL: pong Jul 29 12:27:12 What do you think about [cc]smart's problem? Jul 29 12:28:11 NAiL: no idea Jul 29 12:28:55 <[cc]smart> think i'll go files Jul 29 12:29:03 <[cc]smart> with version extension Jul 29 12:30:15 [cc]smart: blame it on me if anyone complains ;-) Jul 29 12:30:52 <[cc]smart> i'll write that in big letters to my wall :) Jul 29 12:31:03 <[cc]smart> right in font of me Jul 29 12:31:33 :) Jul 29 12:35:28 lo Jul 29 12:35:32 any perl guru around? Jul 29 12:35:34 gerwinin: hey Jul 29 12:35:47 * gerwinin put 1gb extra memory in his machine that makes a huge difference :) Jul 29 12:35:52 Hey zecke Jul 29 12:36:06 is elsif( !time_is_valid($starttime) ) valid perl code? Jul 29 12:37:12 treke|home: can one add extra tokens to the subject as well? Jul 29 12:45:28 Ciao all Jul 29 12:46:36 hey Pigi Jul 29 12:46:45 perl anyone? Jul 29 12:46:52 hi koen Jul 29 12:46:59 zecke, what do you need ? Jul 29 12:48:14 koen, I have pulled this afternoon, and upgraded bitbake, but I still got the initscript error for h3900. Any news ? Jul 29 12:48:36 is elsif( !time_is_valid($starttime) ) valid perl code? Jul 29 12:48:36 Pigi: I've some code to make libbb compileable on FreeBSD. I will send it your place soon(tm) Jul 29 12:49:11 Pigi: I've been building h3900 gpe-images from scratch since yesterday Jul 29 12:49:30 heh Jul 29 12:49:36 spoke too soon: ERROR: Nothing provides libipkg Jul 29 12:49:49 zecke, if time_is_valid is a defined function, I can't see any trouble with that code. Jul 29 12:49:50 Pigi: update bitbake Jul 29 12:50:27 zecke, I have updated it at 15.00 pm (gmt+1 DST ). Is it enough ? Jul 29 12:50:37 Pigi: is it at r294? Jul 29 12:50:43 lemme se Jul 29 12:50:46 see even Jul 29 12:50:54 Pigi: so '!' means not? Jul 29 12:51:24 sure, zecke. Perl and C are almost similar in syntax Jul 29 12:51:40 heh Jul 29 12:52:08 How can I see which revision bitbake is ? bitbake --version don't help Jul 29 12:52:16 Pigi: do 'svn up' Jul 29 12:52:33 that should say: At revision 294. Jul 29 12:53:24 it is, then. Am I supposed to remove tmp ? ( please, say no.... please, say no..... please, say no..... ) :) Jul 29 12:53:44 try with removing the cache Jul 29 12:54:34 touch conf/local.conf Jul 29 12:54:49 zecke: that didn't work for me last time Jul 29 12:55:41 <[cc]smart> NAiL: have the been discussions on ways to prepare and install defined system accounts yet ? Jul 29 12:55:52 hmm my connection is lagging Jul 29 12:57:49 zecke: it seems my build failed without giving the necessary info to the server Jul 29 12:57:56 * koen firesup another build Jul 29 12:58:53 [cc]smart: yes Jul 29 12:59:52 brb Jul 29 13:00:03 <[cc]smart> are there results already ? Jul 29 13:00:08 koen: I wanted to harden process_builds but my connection is lagging Jul 29 13:00:33 [cc]smart: no, I've been busy with three funerals and stuff. The result it to be a .bbclass Jul 29 13:01:44 <[cc]smart> oha, but ye allright ? Jul 29 13:01:53 re Jul 29 13:03:10 <[cc]smart> prolly not so much then. Jul 29 13:03:25 zecke: try a local tinderbuild Jul 29 13:03:38 koen: oh well I could have broken process builds now Jul 29 13:03:54 [cc]smart: I'm ok. It's not been the best two weeks of my life :P Jul 29 13:04:26 <[cc]smart> NAiL: so you are going/plan to implement this youreself ? Jul 29 13:05:09 I plan to, but I haven't had much time to look at how to actually do it. I've looked at a few bbclasses, and think I get the general idea. The exact implementation details are still to be decided Jul 29 13:06:11 <[cc]smart> i've got no clue on these but iirc we have discussed the general idea of what would be needed before, haven't we ? Jul 29 13:07:10 <[cc]smart> and also a possible strategy, just no idea of how to actually do it :) Jul 29 13:07:27 yeah ;) Jul 29 13:08:32 <[cc]smart> well, not so bad conditions for start. customers usually just want it solved without really knowing what they wanna solve and how :) Jul 29 13:08:39 hehe Jul 29 13:09:25 /I/ want it to be able to create a user, and create a group if desirable. Then add the user to the group. Jul 29 13:09:34 koen: process_builds should not let starttime: 0 pass Jul 29 13:11:49 zecke: nice Jul 29 13:14:04 it should either work or not take any mails ;) Jul 29 13:14:14 someone wants to fix my xkb errors? ;) Jul 29 13:14:39 * zecke considers hiring a sysadmin to update his machines regulary Jul 29 13:17:22 zecke: I'm working to have the system to do it for me Jul 29 13:18:25 chouimat: yeah I do not want to spend hours on aptitude Jul 29 13:18:33 chouimat: putting packaging on hold, forbidden others Jul 29 13:20:10 zecke: current implementation work with jabber, so the agent ask the server if there is update for it and if there updates the agent receive a list of what to update and what to execute and where to find them ... Jul 29 13:20:21 nice Jul 29 13:21:02 zecke: the where can be a ftp server, samba or nfs drive or something else the framework doesn't care ... it's the only way I found to make it generic Jul 29 13:21:11 zecke, about the libbb stuff, feel free to send it to me whenever you have time. Jul 29 13:21:36 Pigi: I've a hack now. but I'm struggling a bit with autotools Jul 29 13:21:56 Pigi: for example I've revived libreplace.a (.la) Jul 29 13:22:05 Pigi: for the strndup functionality Jul 29 13:23:29 OT: does anyone know if debian really lost one of their ftp servers? or 'just' a buildfarm? Jul 29 13:23:30 I see. Is it really needed to revive the whole libreplace hust for strndup ? At least we could put it in a separate function. Jul 29 13:23:44 s/hust/just Jul 29 13:24:31 Pigi: it is needed. #ifndef HAVE_STRNDUP #endif works Jul 29 13:25:11 I will give a look at that code. Send me your hack and I will look at it. Jul 29 13:25:17 when you have time :) Jul 29 13:25:41 just a matter of rebooting to my F-BSD Jul 29 13:25:48 heh Jul 29 13:35:47 jh___, jh_: I got emacs all compiled and working. "make bootstrap" took hours and hours to finish, more than 10 in all I think. "make", after bootstrap, only took half an hour or so. Jul 29 13:36:25 jh___, jh_: emacs seems to start up in 5-7seconds, which isn't too bad. I'm rebooting and am going to try again to see if it was possibly cached when I was testing before. Jul 29 13:36:43 Pigi: and in libbb I removed libc5 usage ( features.h is not present on FBSD libc) Jul 29 13:39:28 zecke, that's doesn't hurt in linux too. Jul 29 13:39:38 right ;) Jul 29 13:40:17 Pigi: ah and for statfs including sys/vfs.h is not possible. I had to include two other headers Jul 29 13:40:44 Pigi: in my hack I check for FreeBSD but we should create a HAVE_VFS_H configs for it Jul 29 13:41:06 btw I discussed a bit with "Waldemar Brodkorb" about the possibility to remove the whole libbb for those system like BSD, and use the system commands like ar tar and gzip for that Jul 29 13:41:29 Brodkorb? Jul 29 13:41:52 I ended up choosing to have some config options like --with-ar and --with-tar to avoif include the libbb stuff. Jul 29 13:42:00 Pigi: I support using external commands for ipkg Jul 29 13:42:15 zecke, yes. Jul 29 13:42:22 JustinP, what do you mean ? Jul 29 13:42:36 You agree on this ? Jul 29 13:42:56 Pigi: if you call ar and tar with non GNU syntax ;) Jul 29 13:43:33 Pigi: I only need it for ipkg-native so I can live with libbb and I can live without libbb Jul 29 13:43:34 zecke, he is working on some distro bsd based on some strange machine that have a very limited space, and taking libbb out can save him 28kb. Jul 29 13:43:44 Pigi: I'm one of the people who has been having problems with ipkg's internal gzip implementation. I think using external commands/libraries would be a good thing to do, at least on those systems which have them (like OpenZaurus) Jul 29 13:44:08 Pigi: and I do not know what is better (having ar and tar installed) or using ar tar Jul 29 13:44:21 Pigi: speed wise, RAM usage wise and flash usage wise Jul 29 13:45:08 Pigi: such as for the data.tar.gz in for firefox ipk for OpenZaurus. It fails to unzip everything on my Zaurii. I have to manually "ar -x" and "tar zxf" to get the files installed. Jul 29 13:45:11 JustinP, ipkg actually use the same ( well old ) gzip implementation that busybox has. Jul 29 13:45:25 JustinP, is not a problem with gzip itself. Jul 29 13:45:32 is a tar problem. Jul 29 13:45:33 Pigi: well, something's wrong with it...I get the LongLink error. Jul 29 13:45:46 ah Jul 29 13:45:48 I know, I have read it. Jul 29 13:45:57 yeah, you're right, that would be tar, not gzip Jul 29 13:47:04 JustinP, have you tried opening that ipk with standard busybox commands ? Jul 29 13:47:09 Does it works ? Jul 29 13:47:42 zecke, ar and tar are always installed on an *nix system AFAIK. Jul 29 13:48:38 zecke, why do you says "if you call ar and tar with non GNU syntax" ? Jul 29 13:49:21 Pigi: I'm not sure if I tested it with busybox or not. I currently have GNU tar installed. Jul 29 13:49:46 JustinP, do you have GNU tar installed on OZ ? Jul 29 13:50:22 Pigi: that's what I just said, yes. Jul 29 13:50:45 ok. Where can I find that firefox ? Jul 29 13:51:06 Pigi: people use to use the better/advanced features of the GNU version Jul 29 13:51:39 better/advanced/bloat Jul 29 13:52:22 fluff, incompatible Jul 29 13:52:23 zecke, but my idea was not to go far from the actually libbb implementation, Just "popening" the commands with standard options to achieve the needed results. Jul 29 13:53:23 Pigi: "standard" is the key. People make wrong assumptions on what is posix standard ;) Jul 29 13:53:32 Pigi: popen spawns a shell? Jul 29 13:53:55 yes ( more or less ) Jul 29 13:54:26 Pigi: then use fork + exec please Jul 29 13:54:36 Pigi: this ipk displays this error on my machine: http://oe.reversefold.com/firefox_1.0.4-r0_armv5te.ipk Jul 29 13:54:38 but I'm fine with libbb Jul 29 13:54:55 actually, for example ipkg invoke some internal function to read the control file, and I would substitute that with popen ar p ipkname ./control.tar.gz | tar -zxO ./control Jul 29 13:55:27 zecke, why fork + exec ? Jul 29 13:55:29 ah okay we need a shell then ;) Jul 29 13:55:49 Pigi: sh == more memory + more time needed + possible security issues Jul 29 13:56:03 ah ok. Jul 29 13:56:42 Pigi: but you decide Jul 29 13:56:58 Pigi: the busybox version of "ar" needs the - for the options. (ar -p ipkname) Jul 29 13:57:49 JustinP, you're right. I probably missed a stroke ;) Jul 29 13:58:02 just making sure you know :-) Jul 29 13:58:39 zecke, I don't basically agree with removing libbb stuffs, but someone needed it, and I would try to help him without forking the main tree. Jul 29 13:58:56 Then if popen is less code expensive for me .... :)) Jul 29 14:00:54 but this wouldn't be a short-term change in ipkg. Maybve for ipkg 1.0.X ( X > 1 ) heh Jul 29 14:01:27 Pigi: make sure to quote everything you pass to the shell Jul 29 14:01:58 Pigi: and we would need to review it carefully as well Jul 29 14:01:59 Sure. Don't worry.... I have read "smash the stack for fun and for profit " :) Jul 29 14:02:34 Pigi: I also expect to be asked to work on signing ipk with GnuPG keys and verifying the signature *pretty* soon Jul 29 14:03:40 why ( If I can ask ) ? Jul 29 14:03:49 JustinP: (emacs) cool! startup time is pretty good Jul 29 14:03:58 a part for the obvious motivations... Jul 29 14:04:03 pretty long compile time :) Jul 29 14:04:45 Pigi: wait a second ;) Jul 29 14:05:44 Pigi: I'm still doing my unpaid intern at ROAD Jul 29 14:05:48 Pigi: and for the http://www.road-gmbh.de/en/produkte/index_02.html Jul 29 14:06:15 Pigi: we need to make sure no one changes the 'secured' telephone application Jul 29 14:06:24 Ohhh, I see. Jul 29 14:06:24 Pigi: our partners provide Jul 29 14:07:00 Pigi: I forsee it to be on the Agenda but I have no time frame yet Jul 29 14:07:08 * reenoo_ reads unpaid and shrugs Jul 29 14:07:09 But that phase (checking signed ipk's ) should be done by ipkg ? Jul 29 14:07:39 Pigi: and I do not want to fork ipkg and do want it to be properly implemented Jul 29 14:07:54 Pigi: I've not thought too carefully about it Jul 29 14:08:53 well, I think it wouldn't be too easy to secure ipkg.... and actually wget is an external command .... Jul 29 14:09:26 I can advise you to think to something external to ipkg for the " secure phase " ? heh Jul 29 14:10:11 Pigi: it is about signing feeds, packages sizes, md5sums of packages and sign them Jul 29 14:10:35 Pigi: and after downloading checking confirming it Jul 29 14:10:58 Pigi: status and other stuff will be stored on an encrypted partition anyway Jul 29 14:11:41 Pigi: but I do not see me working on it the next month, I just wanted to warn you Jul 29 14:11:59 yes, obviously. It is not really important that status is on an encrypted partition if someone forge the feed :) Jul 29 14:12:30 I have been warned, then ..... and probably I will disappear in a month or so, then :)) Jul 29 14:13:21 for me it is important every Free Software ROAD touches is touched the right way Jul 29 14:13:58 zecke, Obviously Jul 29 14:14:31 Pigi: I'm currently pulling my monotone tree. One hundred revisions to pull left but then I will send you my hacked ipkg Jul 29 14:15:14 np. It's almost sleep time here. Send it by mail, and I will lok at it in the w.e. Jul 29 14:16:12 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r3bbdf576... 10/classes/gpe.bbclass: gpe.bbclass: add GPE_SRC_COMPRESSION variable to allow switching between gz and bz2 Jul 29 14:16:16 03rw 07org.oe.dev * ra9d33283... 10/packages/minimix/minimix_0.7.bb: add minimix - a volume control applet for GPE Jul 29 14:17:14 * JustinP syncs Jul 29 14:17:19 well, pulls Jul 29 14:18:42 hi all Jul 29 14:18:55 'evening florian Jul 29 14:21:18 jh___: yes, a super-long compile time, but I think the elc files could have been copied from another machine. I think they're byte-compiled and therefore device independant...oh well Jul 29 14:21:40 03rw 07org.oe.dev * re584e064... 10/packages/meta/meta-gpe.bb: meta-gpe: add minimix to gpe-task-settings Jul 29 14:22:17 jh___: final size of installed files: 91633K Jul 29 14:22:17 good... Jul 29 14:22:21 *whew* that's big Jul 29 14:22:38 I'm sure it's all of the el and elc files included in the base distribution Jul 29 14:23:59 and this is without all docs (I removed anything having to do with makeinfo and texinfo as I couldn't get it to compile) Jul 29 14:26:39 yeah, that's a big chunk. alot of distros package the .el files separately from the .elc Jul 29 14:26:57 but still... that's what sd cards are for :) Jul 29 14:27:21 re Jul 29 14:27:39 I'm tarring it all up right now. I'll see if I can remove the .el files as well... Jul 29 14:30:41 jh___: does this look right to you? find | grep \.elc$ | sed s:\.elc$:\.el: | xargs rm Jul 29 14:30:52 without the xargs it seems to work Jul 29 14:34:01 jh__: down to 53036 without the .el files which correspond to .elc files (probably all of them but I wanted to be sure) Jul 29 14:34:39 ~lart ntp Jul 29 14:34:39 * ibot overclocks ntp until ntp burns out Jul 29 14:38:57 JustinP, I'm trying a patch that "Felix Domke" provided me to fix the gnu tar incompatibility. Jul 29 14:41:37 Pigi: :-) I hope it works Jul 29 14:42:03 JustinP, and it seems to works. I will release in a day or two the new version of ipkg. Jul 29 14:42:46 Pigi: ok. What version will this be? I'd be happy to test it out by building a new version for my zaurus. Jul 29 14:42:50 just the time to do some more checks. But at least there isn't the Unknow flags error Jul 29 14:42:57 :-) Jul 29 14:43:19 would be 0.99.154. Now I'm too tired to do all the regression tests. Jul 29 14:43:32 jnc__: the final tarball is ~13MB...with bz2 Jul 29 14:43:39 Pigi: I understand Jul 29 14:43:43 thanks for looking into it Jul 29 14:43:56 you're welcome. :) Jul 29 14:44:57 * JustinP attempts to make an ipk for emacs Jul 29 14:46:27 time to sleep. Jul 29 14:46:33 Good night all Jul 29 14:46:42 'night Pigi Jul 29 14:53:25 yeah installing xkbutils makes xkb work again ;) Jul 29 14:55:14 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra566830d... 10/packages/gpe-beam/ (gpe-beam-0.2.7/decl.patch gpe-beam_0.2.7.bb): Fix build for x86 platforms. Jul 29 14:57:00 ooooh, fun. arm-linux-gcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1) Jul 29 14:57:10 while compiling xmame-0.95-r0 Jul 29 14:57:25 ot: isn't there xset to turn stuff like bell off? Jul 29 14:57:42 florian: reenoo_ : would one of you merge please? Jul 29 14:57:47 xset zecke off Jul 29 14:58:00 zecke: ok Jul 29 14:58:04 *g* Jul 29 14:58:04 koen: okay I need to find out where my xset went Jul 29 14:58:18 * florian is guilty Jul 29 14:58:28 Qtopia: warning: xset not found Jul 29 14:58:38 xset: could not open DISPLAY :0 Jul 29 15:03:18 and now it worked.... Jul 29 15:04:38 * florian has an oe bugzilla account now... i'm going to use it ;-) Jul 29 15:04:54 I got one a while ago. :-) Jul 29 15:05:04 they come quite cheap Jul 29 15:11:26 zecke: xset b off Jul 29 15:13:44 reenoo_: yeah my xset vanished ;) Jul 29 15:18:42 jh___: ready to try an emacs ipk? It's 16MB :-| Actually, I'm wondering if ipkg is going to be able to handle it.... I'll let you know after I test it Jul 29 15:19:00 wow xkb works mozilla broken... Jul 29 15:21:00 oh, I noticed that a lot of keys don't work right in Firefox...particularly ones I altered with loadkeys Jul 29 15:25:07 * emte needs to write a book .... smd/t packages 101 Jul 29 15:25:34 like i know what a 1206 is supposed to look like Jul 29 15:25:50 bigger than a 0405 i'd assume Jul 29 15:28:05 JustinP: sure i'll try emacs. probably later tonight, though Jul 29 15:28:22 mickeyl: "mickeyl org.oe.dev * re435b5d3... /packages/unionfs/ (5 files): add unionfs modules and userland utilities 1.0.13" - breaks OpenSlug - fails while applying make.patch Jul 29 15:30:55 rwhitby-away: file a bug report Jul 29 15:31:01 rwhitby-away: mickeyl will be offline the next week Jul 29 15:31:29 zecke: debugging first, maybe I can fix it myself. if that fails, then I'll file a bug report Jul 29 15:31:46 I need to go to bed now Jul 29 15:31:50 rwhitby-away: I'm sure you can fix it Jul 29 15:33:33 'night all Jul 29 15:42:45 doh Jul 29 15:51:35 Wow Jul 29 15:51:39 what is this ccdv shit in udev? Jul 29 15:52:49 Wow - thats just plain ugly Jul 29 15:55:50 * CosmicPenguin assumes this has already been fixed - I'm just too lazy to check Jul 29 15:58:17 Can someone remind me how you make the latest version of a .bb *not* be selected ? Jul 29 15:58:53 DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Jul 29 15:59:54 I've got a quicky if anybody with monotone access is bored Jul 29 16:00:09 thx. the make.patch for unionfs-modules_1.0.13 was not checked in, and it's sufficiently different from the previous version that I'm pushing it back to mickeyl to fix since he broke it. Jul 29 16:00:12 quicky fix, that is Jul 29 16:12:59 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * re55d1a10... 10/packages/unionfs/unionfs-modules_1.0.13.bb: Banished version 1.0.13 of unionfs-modules until mickeyl finishes the job by committing the corresponding make.patch Jul 29 16:13:03 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rf54d4d54... 10/packages/unionfs/unionfs-utils_1.0.13.bb: Banished version 1.0.13 of unionfs-utils until mickeyl finishes the job by committing the corresponding make.patch Jul 29 16:25:16 'night all Jul 29 17:33:01 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r585ac18d... 10/packages/gpe-package/gpe-package_0.2.bb: Fix dependency. Jul 29 17:39:32 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rc32f13bd... 10/packages/linux/linux-netvista_2.4.27.bb: Update kernel bb a little bit. Jul 29 17:59:37 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r669fa4df... 10/packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_0.79.bb: Add new release of gpe-login. Jul 29 17:59:46 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0f025031... 10/packages/minilite/minilite_0.49.bb: Add new release of minilite supporting the Nokia 770. Jul 29 19:06:35 mickeyl: would your new mount -obind scheme allow root to be umounted on shutdown/reboot? or at least allow it to be remounted ro? Jul 29 21:27:19 * france is back (gone 00:03:10) Jul 29 23:02:12 * france is away: Away **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 29 23:59:56 2005