**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 29 23:59:56 2005 Jul 30 01:56:44 morning all Jul 30 01:57:22 g'day RP Jul 30 02:02:48 good morning all Jul 30 02:02:53 morning koen Jul 30 02:06:16 hey RP Jul 30 02:06:30 g'day koen Jul 30 02:06:49 koen: we've been hitting your tinderbox for the past 9 hours: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/cgi-bin//tinder.cgi?tree=OpenEmbeddedBuild&start-time=1122692411&display-hours=48 Jul 30 02:08:21 lots o' green Jul 30 03:15:36 Good morning folks Jul 30 03:16:09 hey Twiun Jul 30 03:16:48 morning Twiun Jul 30 03:21:26 ugh....early morning...I haven't gone to bed yet Jul 30 03:28:38 * RP finds another bug in the -mm tree... Jul 30 03:39:31 hi all Jul 30 03:41:05 hrw|gone: Is it possible that you forgot to check in ipkg.inc? Jul 30 03:44:10 mithro: could you check if you've my USB wlan dongle? Jul 30 03:47:42 mithro: nevermind... Jul 30 03:52:08 moin Jul 30 03:55:27 zecke: I want to replace www.oesources.org with sources.nslu2-linux.org (or at least put that one after oesources) in base.bbclass - is it possible to do that in the nslu2.conf file, and can you tell me the correct syntax ? Jul 30 03:56:52 rwhitby: you can set CVS_TARBALL_STASH to sources.nslu2-linux.org Jul 30 03:57:01 rwhitby: and I will look for the other mirrors as well Jul 30 03:57:04 wait a second please Jul 30 04:01:46 man stupid GNOME... you can not log in twice with the same username Jul 30 04:01:55 the second time you lack theming... Jul 30 04:02:12 zecke: nope i don't :P Jul 30 04:03:11 rwhitby: either copy the base.bbclass and change the last two lines Jul 30 04:03:25 rwhitby: or try overriding MIRRORS() in your local.conf Jul 30 04:04:27 rwhitby: MIRRORS_prepend could work Jul 30 04:04:34 rwhitby: PREMIRRORS_prepend as well Jul 30 04:06:30 mithro: I looked on my desk, went downstairs, came back and it was right next to my laptop Jul 30 04:06:55 zecke: he he Jul 30 04:24:07 zecke: thx, I will try MIRRORS_append (found it in nylon-mirrors.bbclass) Jul 30 04:28:07 zecke: added the following to nslu2.conf: Jul 30 04:28:18 CVS_TARBALL_STASH = "http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/sources/" Jul 30 04:28:19 MIRRORS_append () { Jul 30 04:28:19 ftp://.*/.*/ http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/sources/ Jul 30 04:28:19 http://.*/.*/ http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/sources/ Jul 30 04:28:19 } Jul 30 04:36:49 rwhitby: it will probably use oesources.org anyway Jul 30 04:37:16 for most things, yes. but we sometimes have nslu2-linux specific files that you don't host cause you don't build them Jul 30 04:38:14 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r2bd677fe... 10/conf/machine/nslu2.conf: Added sources.nslu2-linux.org to nslu2.conf for CVS_TARBALL_STASH and MIRRORS_append. Jul 30 04:50:53 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r009ad2eb... 10/ (classes/nslu2-mirrors.bbclass conf/machine/nslu2.conf): Changed nslu2 mirrors to use INHERIT and a .bbclass file instead. Jul 30 04:57:48 rwhitby: that sounds better Jul 30 04:58:13 works better too :-) Jul 30 04:58:33 * rwhitby learns some more bb-foo today ... Jul 30 05:03:22 bbl Jul 30 05:08:23 zecke: we're looking at how to create a perl-modules.ipk which rdepends on all the 850 or so perl module ipks so that someone can install *all* of perl with two ipks. Jul 30 05:08:58 rwhitby: I need the same from do_split_packages :} Jul 30 05:09:17 rwhitby: you could do it now with some python magic, but better would be to extend do_split_packages Jul 30 05:10:34 so we want do_split_packages to somehow do something with a list of all the split up packages which are emitted. Jul 30 05:11:56 one problem for doing that is perl.inc uses do_split_packages three times and creates some overlapping packages that never get created (because they are empty), so RDEPENDS = ${PACKAGES} gets the not created packages too... Jul 30 05:14:15 so should do_split_packages determine which packages are going to be empty, and leave them out of the PACKAGES list that it creates? Jul 30 05:16:25 DaKa2: would that solve the problem? Jul 30 05:16:31 in the perl case do_split_packages cannot know what packages will be empty, because that's found when things are actually copied to install/ later Jul 30 05:16:54 ah, right. hmmm. Jul 30 05:17:16 but if you could get a list of the packages to be created before they are created... dunno how though.. Jul 30 05:17:55 DaKa2: I didn't understand your last statement Jul 30 05:18:56 well, if you can get a list of the packages with files in install/_package-name_ right before do_package actually packages the ipkgs Jul 30 05:19:41 then you could slip in a perl-modules package with the actually created packages there Jul 30 05:30:03 rwhitby: if populate_packages would create a list of packages it copied some files info... it would help if I knew python :) I cannot really say I understand 100% of package.bbclass and package_ipk.bbclass Jul 30 05:30:40 rwhitby: a meta package with the created modules hardcoded looks better and better Jul 30 05:33:29 Don't want to do hardcoded. Jul 30 05:37:21 well, then someone have to figure out a way to do this :) Everything seems to end up in modifying some .bbclass, or writing lots of python Jul 30 05:49:11 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r3471c6c7... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig): Added INPUT_EVDEV and USB_KBD modules to OpenSlug kernel Jul 30 05:54:11 DaKa2: so package_ipk.bbclass adds do_package_ipk to the end of PACKAGEFUNCS. We need to insert a task just before that which adds a new perl-modules package to PACKAGES Jul 30 05:54:46 let's see where we can do that ... Jul 30 05:55:22 anywhere after populate_packages would be fine Jul 30 05:55:34 rwhitby: do you call do_split_packages? Jul 30 05:55:39 rwhitby: why not afterwards? Jul 30 05:56:18 zecke: in the perl case do_split_packages cannot know what packages will be empty, because that's found when things are actually copied to install in populate_packages Jul 30 05:56:41 (re DaKa2's reply earlier) Jul 30 05:57:09 [21:41] DaKa2: one problem for doing that is perl.inc uses do_split_packages three times and creates some overlapping packages that never get created (because they are empty), so RDEPENDS = ${PACKAGES} gets the not created packages too... Jul 30 05:58:23 we could perhaps just say ALLOW_EMPTY=1 in perl.inc, and have it create *all* packages (including maybe a hundred empty ones) and put them all as RDEPENDS for perl-modules Jul 30 06:08:43 DaKa2: is there a problem with the ALLOW_EMPTY approach ? Jul 30 06:09:05 rwhitby: no, not that I can see, 100 more packages is not that bad Jul 30 06:13:02 DaKa2: ok, we can do ALLOW_EMPTY_openslug = 1 and PACKAGES_append_openslug = "perl-modules" and then create the perl-modules package ? Jul 30 06:13:36 i.e. just create the empty packages and perl-modules package for openslug and not any other OE distros ? Jul 30 06:13:55 (assuming that other OE distros don't want 100 extra empty packages for perl) Jul 30 06:14:00 ah, good idea Jul 30 06:15:48 should I do that, test and upload? Jul 30 06:16:53 hmm the quality of bug reports are decreasing Jul 30 06:18:04 DaKa2: yeah Jul 30 06:19:12 sorry for that zecke.. :P Jul 30 06:23:57 Hi, has anybody else experienced gpe-login module related crashes recently? Jul 30 06:25:35 We have build the gpe-image for ipaq h6300 and are able to calibrate the toucschreen. (We have made own ts driver for h6300 that we have conf by setting some env variables in gpe-dm and by changing /etc/ts.conf) but after entering password and pressing ok in the gpe-login module the screen goes black for a while and after that the login-screen appears again. Jul 30 06:25:37 It seems that X is crashing somewhere.After login with ssh to dropbear, the dmesg displays some kind of "alignment trap" error in the gpe-login module.We have build gpe-image about one week ago by using cross-gcc coming with oe. (gcc 3.4.4 with TARGET_FPU="soft") Jul 30 07:17:55 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r5a8e09b9... 10/packages/at76c503a/ (at76c503a-modules/makefile.cc.patch at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb): Fix at76c503a crosscompile. Thanks to wrichter Jul 30 07:20:55 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r09627713... 10/packages/ipkg/ (ipkg-native.inc ipkg.inc): added forgotten files to ipkg Jul 30 07:21:42 zecke: koen: nslu2-linux tinderclient now runs from cron every 15 minutes and sends delta build information for OpenSlug and Unslung. Jul 30 07:22:16 at some stage we will add in a build-from-scratch client too. Jul 30 07:22:36 rwhitby: could I'm about to implement the timezone handling Jul 30 07:22:54 Is there a way to stop the foo-image from building if nothing else has been built in that run ? Jul 30 07:26:32 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6c5534d0... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files): Upgrade to 2.6.13-rc3-mm3. Tweak some patches Jul 30 07:35:46 I saw a post on monotone-devel on how they are planning to speed things up a bit Jul 30 07:41:50 Is it the [nostamp] stuff which makes images rebuild every time ? Jul 30 07:42:10 iirc, yes Jul 30 07:42:46 is that behaviour easy to turn off? For the tinderbox delta builds, I'd like to only build the image if something which it depends on has changed. Jul 30 07:43:20 I think you can tune image.bbclass (if that exists) Jul 30 07:43:41 yeah, I'm looking at rootfs_ipk.bbclass Jul 30 07:45:12 Would a "do_rootfs[nostamp] = 0" and "do_build[nostamp] = 0" added to my openslug-image.bb make it act more like a normal package? Jul 30 07:45:39 I guess so Jul 30 07:46:14 where is the [nostamp] stuff actually acted upon? Jul 30 07:47:04 ah, I guess that's a core bitbake thing. Jul 30 07:55:14 rwhitby: right Jul 30 07:56:32 lamikr: try without the TARGET_FPU="soft" Jul 30 07:57:52 zecke: do you think you'll have the time to write a VC_monotone this month (august)? Jul 30 07:58:27 yes Jul 30 07:58:42 koen: ok, I have tried to find out whether the arm925 has hardware floating point support or not. Some simple test apps have worked also with hardware fp, but as I have not found any good testsuite for confirming this, I have used soft-fp. But I will now try with hardware fp. Jul 30 07:58:48 It looks like I'm going to do some perl for money... Jul 30 07:59:34 my income situation is ridicoulous funny. law suite against my father for child support since four years... but anyway... Jul 30 07:59:38 pb_: hey Jul 30 07:59:45 zecke: hail Jul 30 07:59:54 packages/ipkg/ipkg.inc seems to have gone missing Jul 30 08:00:40 jbowler-away: "hrw org.oe.dev * r09627713... /packages/ipkg/ (ipkg-native.inc ipkg.inc): added forgotten files" ? Jul 30 08:01:10 Hum, maybe it hasn't been propagated to nslu2-linux Jul 30 08:03:57 pb_: gcc-3.3.3 can not be compiled with gcc-4.0.1 :( Jul 30 08:04:43 zecke: yah, that sucks Jul 30 08:07:24 pb_: why didn't you fix it yet ;) Jul 30 08:07:28 just kiddin Jul 30 08:07:28 g Jul 30 08:10:16 RP: does http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2005-July/030575.html give RMK more excuses to ignore you? ;) Jul 30 08:13:56 pb_: would this "two week merging spree" be benificial for upstreaming hh.org stuff? Jul 30 08:16:03 zecke: heh Jul 30 08:16:13 koen: dunno Jul 30 08:16:57 couldn't these gcc folks test their compiler with gcc4 before releasing something?!... Jul 30 08:17:32 Is anyone else seeing issues with libpng and versioned symbols? Jul 30 08:17:36 koen: the way that I read http://lwn.net/Articles/144281/ is that you need to have your patches in subsystems well ahead of that, and the two weeks is for subsystem merges. Jul 30 08:18:21 (first week for merging, then second week for bug fixes only) Jul 30 08:20:44 rwhitby: and now RMK is saying "I can't merge it soon", so I'm a bit confused Jul 30 08:21:06 but it could be RMK is referring to the future instead of the merging week Jul 30 08:21:49 one would hope that RMK is referring to his ability to merge patches in his tree into Linus's tree. Jul 30 08:22:10 (rather than his ability to accept patches at any time into his tree) Jul 30 08:22:28 if not, then the new kernel development model will not succeed. Jul 30 08:26:50 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r0ea2fa31... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: On openslug create a package perl-modules depending on the 840+ other packages. Jul 30 08:28:09 koen: we only put that perl change in for openslug, cause it creates many additional empty packages. we'll leave it up to you guys to decide for the other distros if the convenience of a single perl-modules.ipk outweighs the annoyance of many additional empty ipks. Jul 30 08:31:12 rwhitby: I think we need to bribe someone to sort it into ~50 packages and put those in one meta-package Jul 30 08:31:26 rwhitby: so let's lock Larry Wall in a room with a copy of OE ;) Jul 30 08:31:43 rwhitby: why does it cause many empty packages? Jul 30 08:32:51 pb_: I'm not sure, but I think it's due to the do_split_packages in perl.inc creating overlapping packages that contain some of the same files (which can only end up in one package and not the other). Jul 30 08:33:54 rwhitby: that sounds a bit odd Jul 30 08:34:06 if do_split_packages is doing that, I imagine it would do it even without your change. Jul 30 08:34:19 zecke: libpng doesn't support versioned symbols... Jul 30 08:34:35 jbowler-away: ? objdump says different here Jul 30 08:34:47 jbowler-away: it is versioned with png12 at least on my ubuntu installation Jul 30 08:34:56 pb_: yes, it was doing it well before our change. But our change was to ALLOW_EMPTY for OpenSlug only, so that we had a known set of RDEPENDS for the perl-modules ipk. Jul 30 08:35:10 (so other distros don't see the empty packages) Jul 30 08:36:27 zecke: then I believe that is something ubuntu did - so far as I can remember no one ever got it to work in the official PNG code. Jul 30 08:37:24 pb_: e.g. archlibdir, 'auto/(.*)/ (the first do_split_packages) and archlibdir, '(.*)\.(pm|pl)' (the third do_split_packages) are overlapping regexps, and there are files which will be matched by both. Jul 30 08:37:59 I guess it's possible just to add a global version to all the symbols in the DLL - but part of the problem is that the DLL exports symbols which are not in the interface (i.e. are internal). Jul 30 08:38:34 rwhitby: ah, right, I see. Jul 30 08:38:49 rwhitby: maybe you could use RRECOMMENDS, not RDEPENDS, and avoid the ALLOW_EMPTY thing. Jul 30 08:38:53 hmm - actually scratch that - the auto dir should not have .pm or .pls in it. Jul 30 08:38:54 jbowler-away: right for example using a linker script... Jul 30 08:39:24 pb_: hmm - so recommends will install anything it can find, but ignore things it can't find? Jul 30 08:39:34 right Jul 30 08:39:44 rwhitby: its the second and third that overlaps, iirc Jul 30 08:39:52 also, recommends will allow the user to manually uninstall some of the recommended packages. Jul 30 08:40:34 obviously it'd be even better to eliminate the empty packages altogether, but if that's a lot of work I wouldn't bother. Jul 30 08:41:11 zecke: I started writing a linker script to cause the internal symbols to be dropped, but gave up - it seemed very specific to one operating system/compiler combination. (That's why I say the official code, 1.2.8, doesn't support versioning). Jul 30 08:41:37 DaKa2: can we try rrecommends? Jul 30 08:41:42 pb_: RRECOMMENDS was considered, but that will cause 85 warnings of missing packages, dunno what is worse though.. 85 empty packages, or 85 warnings.. Jul 30 08:42:06 rwhitby: of couse, that was one of my first suggestions Jul 30 08:42:38 DaKa2: sorry about that, it's late here :-) Jul 30 08:43:03 :) what do you think, 85 warnings or 85 empty packages? Jul 30 08:43:45 I would go for the warnings, then there is an incentive for someone to fix it when they are reminded of it every time they install perl ... Jul 30 08:44:11 and then we could remove the _openslug restriction and put it in for all distros Jul 30 08:44:36 yep.. Jul 30 08:45:01 and have a much wider base of developers get annoyed enough to fix it :-) Jul 30 08:45:24 haha :) Jul 30 08:46:26 isn't that what open source is all about? put something out which is useful, but just annoying enough so that others fix it for you .... Jul 30 08:47:56 yep :) usually works too, might just take a while Jul 30 08:48:57 only took 8 months for the nslu2-linux community to solve the problem which I bought my slugs for ... Jul 30 08:51:53 any python hacker around? Jul 30 08:58:52 rwhitby-asleep: ping? Jul 30 09:06:23 koen: This will be rmk's latest excuse, yes Jul 30 09:06:55 He won't merge anything into his tree unless its in the two weeks now. In fact, if he closes the patch system outside of that, it wouldn't surprise me... Jul 30 09:07:49 hehe Jul 30 09:11:55 well i'm off to Stockholm now Jul 30 09:12:37 mithro: Flying or train? Jul 30 09:12:42 or boat? Jul 30 09:13:26 mithro: hey Jul 30 09:16:54 rwhitby-asleep: ping Jul 30 09:22:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r595cd359... 10/packages/dbus/dbus/dbus-1.init: Apply dbus-init patch, Courtesy Philipp Zabel Jul 30 09:40:01 hi Jul 30 09:41:02 hey chouimat Jul 30 09:45:12 * koen taps foot while apt download 280MB of updates Jul 30 09:56:50 morning Jul 30 09:57:34 hey XorA Jul 30 09:59:13 where did libipkg go? Jul 30 10:05:50 I stole it. Jul 30 10:06:34 ~lart opie-qss Jul 30 10:06:35 * ibot strangles opie-qss with a doohicky mouse cord Jul 30 10:09:16 hi XorA Jul 30 10:13:47 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r72702dc0... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.11.bb: linux-oz-2.6.11: Update SRC_URIs after cleanup Jul 30 10:15:03 hey guys I got already pretty much reactions on the oe-meeting Jul 30 10:15:27 Would you guys mind if there will be some companies as well ? Jul 30 10:15:35 Which attend the meeting Jul 30 10:16:00 entire companies? it sounds like that might get a little crowded. Jul 30 10:16:55 oe-meeting? Have I missed something? Jul 30 10:17:14 Yes I sent a mail to the mailinglist Jul 30 10:17:26 RP the meeting will be in the netherlands Jul 30 10:18:07 No I was thinking to invite some hardware manufacturers and ask them to donate hardware Jul 30 10:18:37 Ah, I missed that email with all the bugzilla stuff :) Jul 30 10:19:09 RP are you close to the Netherlands ? Jul 30 10:19:30 gerwinin: Depends if you call North East UK close :) Jul 30 10:19:54 It is in the south in Eindhoven Jul 30 10:20:17 RP there is a ryanair from London to Eindhoven Jul 30 10:20:46 gerwinin: I'm not near London ;-) Jul 30 10:21:02 :( Jul 30 10:21:23 RP maybe I can arrange that we have a videoconference connection Jul 30 10:22:48 I'm just seeing how much it'd cost to get there... Jul 30 10:23:24 Okay as it looks now it will be the 4th week of august Jul 30 10:23:44 Do I need to arrange a place to sleep for you ? Jul 30 10:24:43 anyone here works with openwrt build with oe? Jul 30 10:25:23 RP my email is gerwinin@hotmail.com Jul 30 10:25:24 gerwinin: I doubt I'll be able to make is sadly. If I could have found a direct flight it might have been an option but I can't :-( Jul 30 10:25:46 RP I will try to arrange a videoconference for you Jul 30 10:26:40 re Jul 30 10:26:51 hey zecje Jul 30 10:26:55 Zecke Jul 30 10:27:16 gerwinin: I think it is most important to get mickeyl, florian/nilsf and pb_ to join Jul 30 10:27:28 Zecke: I will try to invite some boardvendors as well and ask if they donate boards Jul 30 10:27:29 gerwinin: I think koen will easly drop by Jul 30 10:27:43 Zecke: Where is MickeyL located ? Jul 30 10:28:01 And Florian ? Jul 30 10:28:21 gerwinin: Frankfurt (mickeyl) Jul 30 10:28:30 gerwinin: Siegen (Florian/Nils) Jul 30 10:29:05 I'm planning to drop by Jul 30 10:29:09 Zecke: That is in Germany that is not too far away Jul 30 10:29:20 gerwinin: right Jul 30 10:29:45 gerwinin: I've accomodation in Eindhoven for free, how would we arrange that for others? Jul 30 10:29:53 Zecke: I will set up videoconference for people that are not able to come for various purposes Jul 30 10:30:13 Zecke: I have a very small house but still 4-6 people can sleep there Jul 30 10:31:05 Zecke: I will ask a bit arround with friends my friends Jeroen and Jean-Paul (which are using openembedded as well) to accomodate some people Jul 30 10:31:42 Zecke: I think I can provide accomodation for about 15 people Jul 30 10:32:12 wow Jul 30 10:32:25 we should set up a small wiki page? Jul 30 10:32:34 Zecke: That is okay Jul 30 10:32:41 Location? How to come there? Where to stay? What topic we want to talk about? Jul 30 10:33:08 Zecke: Good idea Jul 30 10:33:16 gerwinin: Id love to come, but Im already going to DNScon in 2 weeks and cant afford to fly Jul 30 10:33:37 Xora : You can join in with videoconference Jul 30 10:33:45 gerwinin: that would be cool Jul 30 10:33:50 anyway friends arrive Jul 30 10:34:48 Zecke: Shall I make a wiki for manufacturers how to get their board supported ? Jul 30 10:35:35 Zecke: I noticed that especially in asia a lot of manufacturers want to use oe but they don't know how to and who to contact Jul 30 10:35:37 gerwinin: why not, oe.handhelds.org -> Wiki Jul 30 10:37:27 gerwinin: right we need to define a lot of processes for OE Jul 30 10:37:35 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r652a4835... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: Jul 30 10:37:35 Remove previuos change and create package perl-modules that recommends all the Jul 30 10:37:35 other 859 packages. Unfourtanly also recommends 86 packages packages that Jul 30 10:37:35 doesn't get created, so some warning messages gets displayed on ipkg install. Jul 30 10:38:09 Zecke: Yes , the more boards + processors we support the better and the bigger oe will get Jul 30 10:38:24 quality musn't suffer though Jul 30 10:39:58 Zecke: Yes agree Jul 30 10:41:12 pb_: any news on CELF? Jul 30 10:44:40 Zecke: should I send my page first to oe-staff for approval ? Jul 30 10:45:01 no just create it, it is a wiki anyway Jul 30 10:49:56 Zecke : Okay Jul 30 10:54:06 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r5f2c5f5b... 10/packages/base-files/ (base-files/profile base-files_3.0.14.bb): Make /etc/profile use TZ variable if /etc/localtime not present. link in comments explain usage. Bump base-files rev. Jul 30 10:54:46 zecke: no, just continued delinquency on my part Jul 30 10:59:13 is CELF the same as EABI? Jul 30 10:59:24 no Jul 30 10:59:32 EABI is an ABI. CELF is a group of people. Jul 30 10:59:43 ok Jul 30 11:00:06 do the celf people have something to do with ABIs? Jul 30 11:00:17 not really Jul 30 11:00:35 koen: CELF has hardly to do with anything Jul 30 11:00:53 koen: I think even TT is part of CELF nowadays *showder* Jul 30 11:01:13 yah, TI have been part of CELF for ages Jul 30 11:01:28 pb_: TI != TT (hopefully) Jul 30 11:01:48 oh, whoops Jul 30 11:01:53 * pb_ illiterate today Jul 30 11:01:57 why do TZ handling always sucks... Jul 30 11:02:29 ah, celf are the linux on a toaster guys Jul 30 11:04:07 What was the interest with CELF if you don't mind me asking? Jul 30 11:04:29 RP: AFAIK they look into ways supporting OE Jul 30 11:04:58 which is IMHO a good sign Jul 30 11:05:04 woohoo! Jul 30 11:05:24 zecke: will they supply is with free toasters? Jul 30 11:05:25 koen: flashed GPE on your slice of bread? Jul 30 11:05:49 zecke: no, too much fluff Jul 30 11:05:58 did I say too much? I do not know anything Jul 30 11:05:59 zecke: That would be interesting... Jul 30 11:06:23 and CELF is pretty 'big'. You ask something today you will get it withing +- three years ;) Jul 30 11:06:32 gerwinin: you aren't working for Philips, by any chance? Jul 30 11:07:57 pb_: do you think it is possible for you to come? Jul 30 11:09:38 zecke: anything is possible for me Jul 30 11:09:51 I have Super Cow Powers. Jul 30 11:10:17 Koen: No I am not I am working currently for bulltech and for Star Jul 30 11:10:24 * chouimat is away: Grocery Jul 30 11:10:32 Koen : Do you need something from philips ? Jul 30 11:10:52 gerwinin: no, just curious :) Jul 30 11:10:58 Koen: They are my neighbours :) Jul 30 11:11:02 * zecke imagines how pb_ supersizes him Jul 30 11:11:24 Koen: Philips is using the montavista stuff Jul 30 11:11:50 * zecke hears philips and starts to shouder Jul 30 11:12:39 * gerwinin hears montavista and start throwing up Jul 30 11:12:56 philips' career day was pretty funny Jul 30 11:13:51 Koen: What happened ? Jul 30 11:14:06 gerwinin: lots of stupid mistakes Jul 30 11:14:22 like wiring up the dvd recorder the wrong way Jul 30 11:14:54 a non working bluetooth demo, etc... Jul 30 11:15:02 the SACD demo was pretty cool Jul 30 11:15:33 and their IDE for ICs and software was amazing Jul 30 11:16:11 Koen : the most stupid mistake they made lately was that they were rallying in favour of software patents and than they asked on tv to the ceo of philips how many software patents philips had and the answer was 0 :) Jul 30 11:17:28 heh Jul 30 11:17:48 Koen: Some things they have are pretty cool I know about it, we developed on time a pbx together with them but the problem is that they didn't understand opensource yet Jul 30 11:18:08 sw patents do not exist, so the only think he could say is 0 :-) Jul 30 11:18:42 Epronk : hapilly not the law for that got voted out Jul 30 11:19:18 Big companies like Philips like things to stay the way it is now Jul 30 11:19:33 Epronk are you in holland as well ? Jul 30 11:19:38 yes Jul 30 11:19:50 We are organising an oe meeting in Eindhoven Jul 30 11:19:58 cool Jul 30 11:20:05 Would you like to come as well ? Jul 30 11:20:20 sure Jul 30 11:20:30 Where you located in Holland ? Jul 30 11:20:42 Eindhoven Jul 30 11:20:47 hehehehe me too Jul 30 11:21:05 My house is at the montgomerylaan :) woensel Jul 30 11:21:20 i also live in woensel :) Jul 30 11:21:39 What are you working on now ? Jul 30 11:22:42 That is fun :) it seems eindhoven has a high density of oe Jul 30 11:22:50 gerwinin: do you got a map of Eindhoven? Jul 30 11:22:58 I'm working for PTS Software and currently at Philips Research Jul 30 11:23:12 i have a map Jul 30 11:24:01 how many are from ehv then? Jul 30 11:24:02 Zecke: Yes and epronk as well Jul 30 11:24:19 Me, Epronk, Jean-Paul Jul 30 11:24:26 That I already know from Jul 30 11:24:32 The guys from enosig Jul 30 11:25:27 So I think there are arround 10 people from Eindhoven Jul 30 11:25:33 hehe Jul 30 11:25:40 giel also Jul 30 11:26:23 Cool shall we put Stratums Eind in the programm as well epronk ? Jul 30 11:26:39 sure Jul 30 11:26:54 already have a date in mind? Jul 30 11:27:11 The fourth week of august seems to be the most approriate Jul 30 11:27:37 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rff41830a... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added nano Jul 30 11:27:41 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rebeee292... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Added nano and cyrus-imapd Jul 30 11:28:46 just make a page on the oe wiki so people can put their name if they want to join Jul 30 11:29:00 epronk cool Jul 30 11:29:49 I am going to do that tonight Jul 30 11:30:28 The lama's will be on soon Jul 30 11:30:37 i'm currently trying to use oe for openwrt Jul 30 11:30:51 can't find any info on the openwrt pages on oe Jul 30 11:31:19 but, there is support for wrt in the oe tree Jul 30 11:32:01 epronk: have you asked the guys in #wrt54g? Jul 30 11:32:24 not yet, will try there Jul 30 11:34:29 join #wrt54g Jul 30 11:34:32 oops Jul 30 11:46:23 yeah my crappy tz data should work now... Jul 30 11:48:38 zecke: hmm? tz stuff? Jul 30 11:48:52 got anything to do with that recent commit of mine? Jul 30 11:53:43 NAiL: no, tinderclient.bbclass Jul 30 11:53:48 aha Jul 30 12:05:40 bye bye bbread Jul 30 12:06:26 emte: welcome bitbake -e Jul 30 12:06:54 so someone finally fixed the python hyphen issue then? Jul 30 12:07:11 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rabe78818... 10/conf/distro/ (openslug-packages.conf openslug.conf): Added cyrus-sasl, needed for cyrus-imapd Jul 30 12:08:10 you know zecke i cant help my self ... i read your name as folgers .... the cheap coffee brand :( Jul 30 12:08:38 emte: what hyphen issue? Jul 30 12:08:40 just to let you know i am sorry about that Jul 30 12:08:51 oh python doesnt like hyphens Jul 30 12:08:57 chockes on em Jul 30 12:09:02 chokes* Jul 30 12:09:44 or was it hyphens ... pretty sure it was ... Jul 30 12:17:10 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * ra06f8ca7... 10/conf/distro/openslug.conf: Set the feeds correctly again Jul 30 12:17:14 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r42d68bf4... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added cyrus-imapd back to packages Jul 30 12:19:43 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r5fbbe1c7... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove perl from the feed since it doesn't work, and there's a working version in the native feed Jul 30 12:19:47 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rf0e0882a... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: disapproval of revision 5fbbe1c75e9bf5533a85c833ed875f3ceb27e7be Jul 30 12:20:09 epronk: the plan was to add all the packages for openwrt that werent yet in oe to oe, and the wrt kernel, then work with the openwrt folks on a possible migration from their buildroot to oe. but that never really happened.. i never got the kernel in and happy, and i dont know of anyone else who picked it up Jul 30 12:20:43 wasn't there complaints that building openwrt with oe would be "too big"? Jul 30 12:20:55 It was a long time, so I don't remember exactly ;-) Jul 30 12:21:15 i never heard any. i talked to the openwrt devs about it. they were willing to consider it for the same reasons i created oe. buildroot has too high a maintainance load, and doesnt scale well enough. Jul 30 12:21:34 that complaint has been heard before, but i dont think from that particular project Jul 30 12:22:05 * kergoth goes to pick up his younger brother from work and take him to his house Jul 30 12:22:44 kergoth: hey Jul 30 12:27:33 * koen|tv vandalizes the wiki Jul 30 12:28:16 zecke: another successfull build in the tinderbox! Jul 30 12:28:23 koen|tv: you need to update your local.conf again Jul 30 12:28:40 what do I have to add? Jul 30 12:29:35 who messed with my tinderclient :} Jul 30 12:31:43 evil gnomes Jul 30 12:33:26 zecke: do I have to add TINDER_TZ ? Jul 30 12:35:15 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * raca49b56... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add perl and perl-modules to openslug-native Jul 30 12:35:38 koen|tv: For now yes Jul 30 12:35:51 koen|tv: either set it to Europe/Berlin or +0200 Jul 30 12:36:30 TINDER_TV = "+0200" Jul 30 12:36:36 aaargh Jul 30 12:36:51 TINDER_TZ = "+0200" Jul 30 12:37:11 that will show up in the next build Jul 30 12:37:21 in ~4 hours Jul 30 12:37:39 koen|tv: no problem. you need a new tinderclient.bbclass anyway ;) Jul 30 12:37:52 it updates every hour Jul 30 12:37:53 koen|tv: also either update bitbake soon, or set TINDER_START Jul 30 12:37:59 and the tinderscripts rsyncs it over Jul 30 12:38:15 bitbake is also updated every hour Jul 30 12:38:39 zecke: does it make sense to have the client send the bitbake version and 'monotone head' ? Jul 30 12:38:43 * emte wonders if UPS will deliver today ... i could really use the components Jul 30 12:40:12 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r76fbcca8... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Jul 30 12:40:12 openembedded/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Jul 30 12:40:12 -Use spaces only, no more tabs to avoid issues with python Jul 30 12:40:12 and level of indention Jul 30 12:40:16 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * re5acdfaa... 10/ (classes/tinderclient.bbclass conf/tinder.conf): (log message trimmed) Jul 30 12:40:16 openembedded/conf/tinder.conf: Jul 30 12:40:16 -Document the TINDER_TZ Option. It can either be Europe/Berlin (no kidding) Jul 30 12:40:17 or a timedelty (e.g. +0200) Jul 30 12:40:19 openembedded/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Jul 30 12:40:21 -Send timenow as UTC + TINDER_TZ offset Jul 30 12:40:23 -Parse and send starttime as time + UTC Jul 30 12:41:29 zecke: hows the bugzilla integration working out? Jul 30 12:41:40 I see that tinderbox-oe is the default QA now Jul 30 12:52:25 koen|tv: dunno. I think I need to register tb-2@gmx.net ;) Jul 30 12:52:43 wow I can not mount any cd's... Jul 30 12:52:48 udev did not create dc, hdd Jul 30 12:57:43 koen|tv: if we feed bug reports to process_bugs it should magically work Jul 30 12:58:02 koen|tv: either gmx is not sending mails or our procmailrc needs updating Jul 30 13:00:04 From www-data@tinman.treke.net Sat Jul 30 00:42:52 2005 Jul 30 13:00:04 Subject: [Bug 184] New: bitbake gpe-image fails Jul 30 13:00:04 Folder: mail/builds_bb 2323 Jul 30 13:01:08 koen|tv: updating of procmailrc is needed Jul 30 13:01:17 koen|tv: throwout process_builds anyway Jul 30 13:01:29 koen|tv: feed mails with [Bug in it to both bitbake and tinderbox Jul 30 13:05:52 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r3c9f4ce1... 10/packages/perl/ (perl-5.8.7/config.sh-arm-linux.patch perl_5.8.7.bb): Add -lgcc_s to perllibs for arm too (already added for armeb), Closes: OE-Bug#113 Jul 30 13:07:12 koen|tv: mail/from was removed? Jul 30 13:07:25 I just did Jul 30 13:07:29 it was 3MB Jul 30 13:08:49 Zecke: wiki is online making improvements now Jul 30 13:09:13 zecke: 23 messages (23 seen) for tinderbox-oe@gmx.net at pop.gmx.net (142790 octets). Jul 30 13:09:15 The gzip package needs to be FHS fixed and updated to use update-alternatives, should I just fix that, or? Jul 30 13:09:27 zecke: can you check gmx? Jul 30 13:09:35 DaKa2: go ahead Jul 30 13:09:43 zecke: I updated the .procmailrc Jul 30 13:10:09 koen|tv: ok, that should be the last package affecting openslug, I think, maybe :) Jul 30 13:11:16 koen|tv: check what? Jul 30 13:13:25 * chouimat is back. Jul 30 13:15:59 zecke: any clue why fetchmail isn't working Jul 30 13:16:38 zecke: like 'account disabled' or something Jul 30 13:16:56 koen|tv: let me check Jul 30 13:18:06 ah, it's working again Jul 30 13:18:13 From www-data@ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl Sat Jul 30 22:18:12 2005 Jul 30 13:18:13 Subject: [bug] zecke is a german Jul 30 13:18:13 Folder: mail/bugs 1640 Jul 30 13:18:23 hehe Jul 30 13:18:45 koen|tv: you need a number in it as well?! Jul 30 13:18:55 * ^Subject:.*\[Bug\ Jul 30 13:19:05 I remove the ^Sender regexp Jul 30 13:19:33 Zecke is it maybe an idea to make a seperate package of gmp for x86 ? Jul 30 13:19:54 gerwinin: make your friend send the gcc3.4.4 fixlet ;) Jul 30 13:20:05 Zecke: Got it already Jul 30 13:20:16 gerwinin: bugs.openembedded.org is your friend Jul 30 13:20:27 * zecke thinks he has a sunstroke... Jul 30 13:20:31 Okay will send it overthere Jul 30 13:21:47 zecke: could you delete the 23 old emails and check if bugzilla mails are present? Jul 30 13:26:21 * zecke goes and deletes the mails Jul 30 13:27:14 done Jul 30 13:31:55 Zecke: submitted the code + bug report Jul 30 13:32:21 good Jul 30 13:32:32 package orinoco-modules-cvs-r0: task do_compile: failed ... what's up with this orinoco modules... some workaround? Jul 30 13:33:02 gerwinin: what else do you need from gmp? Jul 30 13:34:49 zecke: for the rest nothing I think that once this error is solved most of the things will be okay Jul 30 13:35:42 I am looking now at the wiki how I can make this change so that gmp will run Jul 30 13:36:48 Building gpe-image with familiar-0.8.3 branch just updated with monotone and I am getting error with gpe-package. In file included from main.c:28: packages.h:4:33: libipkg.h: No such file or directory Jul 30 13:37:49 Which bb should provide libipkg.h? At least I do not have libipkg*.bb file. Jul 30 13:41:09 lamikr: update your oe tree Jul 30 13:41:16 lamikr: rebuild ipkg and ipkg-native Jul 30 13:43:43 koen|tv: any lucky? Jul 30 13:44:22 zecke: just updated oe before running "bitbake gpe-image" by using commands "mt --db oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.dev", "cd org.openembedded.dev" and "mt update". But I will now try to rebuild ipkg and ipkg-native. Jul 30 13:45:22 gerwinin: please attach the patch ;) Jul 30 13:45:38 lamikr: ipkg.inc was missing (at least it did for me) Jul 30 13:46:11 Zecke : Okay Jul 30 13:46:29 Excluding: koen@handhelds.org, tinderbox-oe@gmx.net Jul 30 13:46:49 zecke: Where should I add it? If it is also missing from me, are you able to update fix to 083 branch? Jul 30 13:47:23 koen|tv: well ;) Jul 30 13:47:44 koen|tv: your build failed Jul 30 13:48:03 OTE: package at76c503a-modules-0.0cvs20050730-r1: task do_package: started Jul 30 13:48:03 ERROR: function do_install failed Jul 30 13:48:03 ERROR: log data follows (/data/build/oe/build/tmp/familiar/work/h3900-linux/at76c503a-modules-0.0cvs20050730-r1/temp/log.do_install.3270) Jul 30 13:48:07 | install: cannot stat `at76c503.ko': No such file or directory Jul 30 13:48:34 * koen|tv glares at NAiL for 5a8e09b9c4fd282e81e1644641d99f38fcfd0708 Jul 30 13:49:17 Zecke: I attached it Jul 30 13:49:36 zecke: I think bugzilla doesn't send mail to tinderbox-oe Jul 30 13:49:52 zecke: bug #189 is for testing tinderbox Jul 30 13:50:02 tinderbox-oe is explicitly in OE now Jul 30 13:51:26 * NAiL looks back at koen|tv and goes "huh?" Jul 30 13:52:24 aha Jul 30 13:52:29 * NAiL looked at the wrong rev Jul 30 13:53:06 revert it, and I'll take a look at it tomorrow Jul 30 13:53:13 got no time now, sorry Jul 30 13:58:25 koen|tv: oe@hh.org or what OE? Jul 30 13:58:25 OT: if you're tinderclient stops working it is due my timezone stuff Jul 30 13:58:25 koen|tv: procmail: Skipped "|/data/tinderbox2/bin/processmail_bugs" Jul 30 13:58:25 skipped means what? Jul 30 13:59:01 I guess it didn't execute that rule Jul 30 13:59:29 zecke: I do not have either any ipkg.inc file atleast under tmp/work directory. In addition whole "tmp/work/ipkg-0.99.152-r0" dir does contain only build log files, not any real c or h files to compile in it. Jul 30 14:00:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbd5f9b1e... 10/packages/at76c503a/ (at76c503a-modules/makefile.cc.patch at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb): disapproval of revision 5a8e09b9c4fd282e81e1644641d99f38fcfd0708 Jul 30 14:00:14 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r71278f33... 10/packages/gzip/gzip_1.3.5.bb: Update to follow the FHS and use update-alternatives for gzip, gunzip and zcat Jul 30 14:00:19 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r8b812072... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add gzip to openslug-native Jul 30 14:00:21 lamikr: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.message/6194543 Jul 30 14:02:31 lamikr: why do you think it should be there? Jul 30 14:03:14 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r3cffa39f... 10/packages/ixp425-eth/ixp425-eth_1.1.bb: Jul 30 14:03:14 Fix the location of one of the patches not to use the unreliable Jul 30 14:03:14 sourceforge mirrors. There should be no change to the module, however Jul 30 14:03:14 the precise way the patches are applied has changed, so the PR has been Jul 30 14:03:14 bumped. Jul 30 14:03:18 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * re8a8ea20... 10/packages/nis/ (pwdutils_2.6.bb ypbind-mt_1.18.bb ypserv_2.17.bb): Copy over source location changes from OpenSlug-2.3-beta Jul 30 14:03:22 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * ra20db40e... 10/packages/pam/libpam_0.79.bb: Jul 30 14:03:22 Disable all the sgml documentation building - this should fix both 186 Jul 30 14:03:22 and 228 since both fail (with different toolsets) during the documentation Jul 30 14:03:24 build. Jul 30 14:06:00 gerwinin: that does not look like a complete patch Jul 30 14:06:36 zecke: Well, that was just a quess as other projects like zlib seemed to include .inc files. Where should it has been then? Btw, after koens message I did mt pull and update again and got message: monotone: note: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' has multiple heads monotone: already up to date at d5c1c82a4f4d4259c9ae9a22865774bf9df663ca Jul 30 14:06:53 is my oe db corrupted? Jul 30 14:08:58 lamikr: no you've two heads ;) Jul 30 14:09:14 lamikr: pull again Jul 30 14:11:23 koen|tv: wow the iBook 14" even got a DVD+RW drive Jul 30 14:11:29 anyway i'm going for the 12" one Jul 30 14:11:42 zecke: my girlfriend just ordered the 12" today :) Jul 30 14:12:35 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r495fa2b8... 10/conf/distro/ (openslug-packages.conf openslug.conf): Jul 30 14:12:35 Add OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES to the BBFILES in conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf Jul 30 14:12:35 This allows extra package directories to be added (or even individual files) Jul 30 14:12:35 without affecting the operation of bb freeze and bb unfreeze. Note that new Jul 30 14:12:35 versions of openslug-packages.conf should keep the addition at the end but Jul 30 14:12:35 that freeze output will not have it. Jul 30 14:12:37 koen|tv: good choiche Jul 30 14:12:50 * koen|tv pets his powerbook 12" Jul 30 14:18:15 Zecke: So how do I apply the change Pieter Grimmerink sent to me ? Jul 30 14:19:28 gerwinin: dunno but this is not a complete diff Jul 30 14:19:42 gerwinin: normally you would open packages/gmp/gmp_4.1.2.bb Jul 30 14:20:00 gerwinin: look for SRC_URI and add file://thepatch.patch;patch=1 " Jul 30 14:20:17 gerwinin: and then thepatch.patch gets applied when building gmp and gmp-native Jul 30 14:20:28 gerwinin: but your attached file does not even got a diff header Jul 30 14:20:43 gerwinin: so the program does not know what file to patch at all Jul 30 14:21:29 zecke: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 Jul 30 14:22:51 zecke: it sends mails to the tinderbox, can you check if tinderbox2 handelds them? Jul 30 14:23:35 Zecke: the problem is that I do not exactly understand what Pieter wants me to change Jul 30 14:24:48 gerwinin: quilt new gcc-compile.patch Jul 30 14:24:56 gerwinin: quilt edit files/to/fix.c Jul 30 14:25:00 gerwinin: quilt refresh Jul 30 14:25:12 gerwinin: send me the patch found in patches/gcc-compile.patch ;) Jul 30 14:25:22 Tinderböxelein Jul 30 14:25:23 :) Jul 30 14:25:39 gerwinin: quilt helps to organize patches ;) Jul 30 14:26:01 koen: oops logged in as the wrong user... Jul 30 14:26:37 Magic number checking on storable file failed at ouch Jul 30 14:26:47 data/tinderbox2/data_dir/OpenEmbeddedBuild/db/Build.Update..h3900.familiar083.gpe-image.1122755490.1122755601.10190 Jul 30 14:28:19 should I rm that? Jul 30 14:28:56 koen: no, tb2 looks robust now ;) Jul 30 14:29:04 nice Jul 30 14:29:09 * koen fetches some milk Jul 30 14:29:41 my link is currently slow, could you su to www-data Jul 30 14:29:48 and try to execute process_bugs? Jul 30 14:29:52 procmail seems to skip the first entry Jul 30 14:29:57 zecke: already there Jul 30 14:30:59 * zecke goes somewhere to puke... Jul 30 14:31:30 to much perl? Jul 30 14:32:02 sunstroke probably, I feel dizzy and... Jul 30 14:32:42 ouch Jul 30 14:33:16 koen: the sun must have sneaked into this cold and dark room ;) Jul 30 14:35:17 * gerwinin zecke you should go sleeping Jul 30 14:35:59 gerwinin: yeah probably ;) I do nothing where I needing mind power is involved.. Jul 30 14:37:03 koen: /data/tinderbox1/bin/processmail_bugs Jul 30 14:37:03 koen: see the 1? we should call both binaries Jul 30 14:37:21 I think we do Jul 30 14:37:53 my dummy | args should take care of that Jul 30 14:38:22 :0 c Jul 30 14:38:22 | xargs > /dev/null Jul 30 14:38:23 ? Jul 30 14:38:28 that one Jul 30 14:38:29 ah Jul 30 14:38:37 procmail: Skipped "| xargs > /dev/null " Jul 30 14:38:37 From www-data@tinman.treke.net Sat Jul 30 23:32:59 2005 Jul 30 14:39:50 koen: could you put /data/tinderbox2/tinderbox_oe.log into logrotate? Jul 30 14:40:53 doesn't rmlogs take care of that? Jul 30 14:41:37 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r4032c179... 10/packages/perl/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Change startperl from #!hostperl to #!/usr/bin/perl so that the perl utilities like cpan works Jul 30 14:42:13 koen: dunno?! Jul 30 14:42:30 koen: oh well, how should tb2 know to which tree the bug mails should be applied? Jul 30 14:42:34 added it anyway Jul 30 14:44:40 there, only one more known) Jul 30 14:44:47 bug in perl to fix.. Jul 30 14:45:31 NAiL: see OE bug #190 for a possible fix to the at76c503 problem Jul 30 14:46:51 OT: could some one please mail me a xset binary? Jul 30 14:47:13 zecke: is it in a package? Jul 30 14:48:02 zecke: check /tmp on ewi Jul 30 14:48:36 zecke: if you need an xset ipk I have one Jul 30 14:49:22 koen: thanks Jul 30 14:50:55 zecke: so processmail_bugs is working, but it doesn't know which tree to apply to Jul 30 14:52:35 koen|tv: look in default_conf/BTData.pm Jul 30 14:52:40 update2tree Jul 30 14:55:01 koen|tv: for OE we can put "OpenEmbeddedBuild" in there Jul 30 14:55:08 copy BTData.pm to local_conf Jul 30 14:55:49 can you send me an email about that? Jul 30 14:55:56 I'll look into that tomorrow Jul 30 14:57:31 koen|tv: just copy both BTData from default_conf to local_conf Jul 30 14:57:40 koen|tv: and allow it to be edited Jul 30 14:58:08 koen|tv: it thinks Bug Product == Tinderbox Tree Jul 30 14:58:36 koen|tv: what we will do is to apply some magic ;) Jul 30 14:58:48 copied Jul 30 14:58:53 if tinderbox_ref{'Product'} is OpenEmbedded -> OpenEmbeddedBuild Jul 30 14:59:00 if it is bitbake -> something else Jul 30 14:59:15 koen|tv: I might do it or not... anyway cya tomorrow then ;) Jul 30 14:59:55 :) Jul 30 15:00:13 * koen|tv wants the superbugzilla integration thingy ubuntu has Jul 30 15:01:30 koen|tv: got a link handy? Jul 30 15:01:40 I've only heard of it, but not looked at it yet Jul 30 15:02:40 I only saw the demo Jul 30 15:02:59 see planet.gnome.org for how it's called Jul 30 15:03:03 gomez or something Jul 30 15:08:00 there, oldest still open OE bug closed (#7) Jul 30 15:08:41 and, I dont know of any other problems in perl right now Jul 30 15:08:49 18:50 < epronk> i'm currently trying to use oe for openwrt Jul 30 15:08:49 18:51 < epronk> can't find any info on the openwrt pages on oe Jul 30 15:13:27 DaKa2: good Jul 30 15:17:40 zecke and koen: Are you sure that the ipkg.inc and ipkg-native.inc were also added to familiar-0.83 branch? I have updated mt now couple of times, but still seeing same error. I noticed in one mt pull that some packages were updated, but ipkg or ipkg-native were not in that group. Jul 30 15:18:14 there is no familiar branch: http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/index.psp Jul 30 15:19:18 packages/ipkg/ipkg.inc should be present Jul 30 15:21:30 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r5c922407... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: Remove ${D} from the install paths in Config_heavy.pl so that cpan knows the correct path to install things in, Closes: OE-Bug#7 Jul 30 15:25:07 koen: sorry a term confusion, using branch: org.openembedded.dev, DISTRO = "familiar-0.8.3" in local.conf Jul 30 15:26:22 zecke: Yes, I have now packages/ipkg/ipkg.inc, but error remains. Maybe I need to remove ipkg references from stamps and work directories and try to build ipkg again? Jul 30 15:29:39 likely yes Jul 30 15:33:14 lamikr: look into your logs ;) Jul 30 15:33:35 lamikr: I'm confident I said you need to rebuild ipkg and ipkg-native?! Jul 30 15:36:56 zecke: Well, now I deleted all gpe-package, and ipkg* related things from tmp/work and tmp/stamps directory and rerun: bitbake gpe-image. This forced all ipkg packeges to be rebuild, but after that the gpe-package still failed to same error. Jul 30 15:38:47 And "find -iname libipkg.h" in tmp/work directory does not find libipkg.h from any of the projects build. Jul 30 15:43:47 lamikr: why do you always try to stick your finger with brutal force into someones butt? Jul 30 15:43:59 bitbake -b path/to/ipkg-.bb -c clean Jul 30 15:44:04 bitbake -b path/to/ipkg-natve_.bb -c clean Jul 30 15:44:08 bitbake gpe-image Jul 30 15:44:17 no sticking your finger into some dirs needed... Jul 30 15:44:22 * zecke shakes head Jul 30 15:46:04 lamikr: tmp/work is just for you! bitbake could remove it just after it used it Jul 30 15:47:36 lamikr: did I lose you? Jul 30 15:47:54 zecke: Not so easily :-) Jul 30 15:48:19 lamikr: There is no need to mess with the work and stamps dir Jul 30 15:48:42 lamikr: someone forgot to checkin the ipkg.inc file (that would have normally installed the header files) Jul 30 15:49:11 lamikr: now it is there but bitbake does not recognize any difference as it only looks at the .bb files and the PR was not bumped Jul 30 15:49:23 zecke: Ok, but it still fails after all of these three commands you gave to me :-( Jul 30 15:50:07 zecke: PR = release number? Jul 30 15:50:14 pastebin the output of ls packages/ipkg/* please? Jul 30 15:50:22 lamikr: right Jul 30 15:50:39 lamikr: try touch conf/local.conf and run bitbake gpe-image Jul 30 15:51:55 zecke: Issued touch and now running bitbake gpe-image, this will take a while. Jul 30 16:00:55 zecke: Still failing after touch, even the cache seemed to be regenerated. At least it was slow... http://pastebin.ca/18901 contains both "ls packages/ipkg" and build error message. Jul 30 16:05:03 rm -rf tmp Jul 30 16:05:04 lamikr: then you did not clean the right ipkg build? Jul 30 16:05:10 koen|tv: ah not needed Jul 30 16:09:45 bitbake -b /opt/h6300/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ipkg/ipkg-native_0.99.152.bb -c clean Jul 30 16:10:02 bitbake -b /opt/h6300/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ipkg/ipkg_0.99.152.bb Jul 30 16:10:15 zecke: did I see you say that the tinderbox timezone stuff is fixed now? Jul 30 16:10:32 rwhitby: well, I thought it was Jul 30 16:10:45 rwhitby: it is pretty limited as well Jul 30 16:10:53 Do I have to change anything in local.conf to take advantage of your fix? Jul 30 16:11:10 rwhitby: either add the timeoffset in minutes into TINDER_TZ (e.g +0120) Jul 30 16:11:19 rwhitby: or Europe/Berlin Jul 30 16:11:43 TINDER_TZ = "Europe/Berlin" Jul 30 16:11:49 I already have had that for days. Jul 30 16:12:00 is the TZ for the *server* or *client*? Jul 30 16:12:12 But nslu2-linux builds (which are happening every 15 minutes) are still not showing up at the right times. Jul 30 16:12:30 rwhitby: good then it would start once the tinderclient is finally fixed Jul 30 16:12:45 ah, so that bit is still TBD ? Jul 30 16:12:47 koen|tv: TZ of the server. so the client can generate the right times Jul 30 16:13:14 rwhitby: no. TZ handling is hard to do anyway (I could use tzset and limit myself to unix) Jul 30 16:13:42 rwhitby: normally. I would ask. What is the offset in minutes from UTC to here Jul 30 16:13:58 rwhitby: what is the offset from UTC to there and then calculate the timedelta Jul 30 16:14:12 rwhitby: and add the minutes... but this is not possible with python Jul 30 16:15:19 eh, which part of that isn't possible? the finding-out-the-offset part? Jul 30 16:15:22 zecke: note that I'm not complaining here - if the final fix is not in there yet, then I'm in no real hurry and will wait for it to be done. if the final fix is considered to be in there now, then I'm reporting that it's not working. Jul 30 16:16:08 rwhitby: I'm sitting in front of it ;) Jul 30 16:16:16 rwhitby: and I did not understand it as complain Jul 30 16:17:09 gerwinin: your patch will be pushed in a minute Jul 30 16:19:01 Okay how so I should do a monotone update ? Jul 30 16:19:13 So I should do a monotone update ? Jul 30 16:19:29 gerwinin: monotone pull and then update Jul 30 16:20:02 Okay Jul 30 16:20:14 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=fd8ded63c0d4d973c538826b220b820a05485c89 Jul 30 16:21:30 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rfd8ded63... 10/packages/gmp/ (gmp-4.1.2/gcc-compile.patch gmp_4.1.2.bb): Jul 30 16:21:30 openambedded/packages/gmp_4.1.2: Jul 30 16:21:30 -Apply patch from #118 coursety gerwinin to fix compilation Jul 30 16:21:30 of gmp on more modern compilers (e.g. gcc4) Jul 30 16:22:21 zecke and koen: For some reason the clean did not helped in the first run, but in the second run it worked! gpe-package part is now handled, and build proceeds. Thanks for help, I will now keep my fingers away from tmp :-) Jul 30 16:22:34 lamikr: ;) Jul 30 16:22:52 lamikr: seldomly there is need to mess with it directly Jul 30 16:22:57 * koen deletes TMPDIR at least 3 times a day Jul 30 16:23:35 koen: probably only because your desktop just works and needs no attention Jul 30 16:25:11 wow my modem talks with me again Jul 30 16:26:38 "hello, I am a modem" Jul 30 16:31:52 koen: "Hello, I am an ARM functioning as Modem and I execute java for ya" Jul 30 16:32:08 eeks! Jul 30 16:32:17 I do EDGE and Quad Band for ya Jul 30 16:32:18 ixnay on the avajay Jul 30 16:32:49 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r2c3b323f... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Jul 30 16:32:49 openembedded/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Jul 30 16:32:49 -timedelta in minutes not hours Jul 30 16:32:49 -tinder_start add the timedelta instead of subtracting it Jul 30 16:32:49 -Berlin is just 120 minutes away from UTC (60 + 60 from dst) Jul 30 16:32:49 -TINDER_TZ takes time in minutes Jul 30 16:32:55 mädels TimeZone stuff should be fixed now ;) Jul 30 16:33:37 cool Jul 30 16:37:50 That brings horrible modem memories from one week ago to my mind... I will now share my horror story for everybody who want's to sit and listen:-( Teaching Mother to internet time last week. Went to shop only IT shop in the mother's city and bought conexant modem as others were not available. Installed Mandriva and started configuring modem. Modem was not linux friendly, so drivers needed to be loaded separately from linuxant (hard when you don't yet h Jul 30 16:44:53 lamikr: http://www.ubersoft.net/d/19970809.html Jul 30 16:45:23 * koen goes to sleep now Jul 30 16:45:36 Have a nice sleep Jul 30 16:46:13 good night for everybody. Jul 30 16:48:36 * gerwinin is not going to sleep yet he is so happy that the error with gmp on x86 is over now Jul 30 17:08:24 koen|sleep: your procmailrc looks wrong no space btw. | and the command Jul 30 17:09:39 zecke: it seems my opie-image for x86 is compiling now :) Jul 30 17:10:11 nice Jul 30 17:10:15 I'm going to bed now Jul 30 17:10:17 zecke: is there a way I can bypass the touchscreen (can I run opie with a ir-controller ?) Jul 30 17:10:25 Zecke: Good night :) Jul 30 18:00:08 anyone know Earthlink Cable promo codes by any chance? Jul 30 18:01:25 that doesnt really sound like vaild question ... Jul 30 18:02:10 Does anyone here know of any Earthlink Cable promo codes, by any chance? Jul 30 18:02:13 English nitpicker =p Jul 30 18:02:40 i ment more the legalities and associated knowledge Jul 30 18:02:58 O.o Jul 30 18:07:49 you could just have asked "can anyone help me steal Earthlink Cable service?" Jul 30 18:08:34 but i am still sure thats not a vlid question Jul 30 18:08:42 valid* Jul 30 18:13:41 promo codes are legal Jul 30 18:13:48 but if you say so... Jul 30 18:13:56 anyone know a valid Earthlink Cable modem MAC addy? Jul 30 18:13:57 =p Jul 30 18:14:01 (j/k) Jul 30 18:14:37 | /home/gerwin/build/tmp/work/linux-x86-2.6.11.6-r1/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.1423: line 442: syntax error near unexpected token `'INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP',' Jul 30 18:15:06 Does anyone has an idea what went wrong and can I edit this file ? Jul 30 18:15:07 gerwinin: perhaps try upgrading bitbake or updating your monotone db Jul 30 18:15:21 Okay Jul 30 18:23:03 Updated bitbake Jul 30 18:23:15 No help :( Jul 30 19:49:31 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * ra0e27959... 10/conf/distro/openslug.conf: Remove error message when OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES is not defined. Jul 30 20:51:29 r **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 30 23:59:56 2005