**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 31 23:59:56 2005 Aug 01 00:04:24 hi all! Aug 01 00:31:04 morning all Aug 01 00:34:03 morning pb_ Aug 01 00:34:37 hi ade Aug 01 00:35:23 hi pb_ Aug 01 00:35:37 g'day ljp Aug 01 00:35:38 morning all Aug 01 00:38:37 morning Aug 01 00:45:09 morning Aug 01 01:27:23 hey Aug 01 01:27:25 quick question Aug 01 01:27:37 if i contribute bb files, what kind of license are they? Aug 01 01:27:46 gpl, creative commons, mit? Aug 01 01:30:42 giel: MIT preferred Aug 01 01:31:03 okay, 'cause i'm trying to convince our legal guys that we can contribute :) Aug 01 01:32:05 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb6afac58... 10/packages/misc-binary-only/prism2-firmware-update_1.7.4.bb: fixed SRC_URI for prism2-firmware-update Aug 01 01:32:27 giel: look for example into packages/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager_4.2.2.bb Aug 01 01:36:33 hrw|work: k thanx Aug 01 01:37:24 giel: xfce was submitted by our man from AMD - tell your legals that if amd can then why dont you? :) Aug 01 01:37:36 indeed :) Aug 01 01:39:25 hi koobla Aug 01 01:39:27 koen: hi Aug 01 01:40:15 hey hrw|work Aug 01 01:40:19 good morning all Aug 01 01:42:02 hi hrw|work Aug 01 01:42:15 ~lart tab Aug 01 01:44:59 mornin' Aug 01 01:47:51 moin zusammen Aug 01 01:48:51 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf67f330b... 10/packages/hdparm/ (hdparm-6.1/bswap.patch hdparm-6.1/uclibc.patch hdparm_6.1.bb): added hdparm 6.1 Aug 01 01:48:55 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfc56e135... 10/packages/hdparm/ (7 files in 3 dirs): dropped older versions of hdparm (not fetchable anyway) Aug 01 01:52:08 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r73d71ebc... 10/packages/pine/pine_4.63.bb: Aug 01 01:52:08 add pine, a Program for Internet News & Email. Aug 01 01:52:08 phew, this one has a really ugly buildsystem... Aug 01 01:52:29 pb_: how does the bb in http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174 look to you? Aug 01 01:53:44 that looks fine Aug 01 01:54:15 can I apply it? Aug 01 01:55:05 sure, go ahead Aug 01 01:56:34 good morning Aug 01 01:57:52 pine suxx Aug 01 01:59:24 good morning Aug 01 01:59:33 mickey|headache: good morning Aug 01 01:59:42 not working on your PhD today? Aug 01 01:59:54 hi mickey|headache Aug 01 01:59:55 no, can't get anything done with that headache. too much party on the weekend Aug 01 02:00:06 heh Aug 01 02:00:36 mickey|headache: do you have guronsan? Aug 01 02:00:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf96e2403... 10/packages/gcc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add gcc-cross-kernel 2.4.4, courtesy Philipp Zabel Aug 01 02:00:45 Bernardo: no, what's that? Aug 01 02:00:58 a vitamine rich pill Aug 01 02:01:04 koen: gcc-cross-kernel 2.4.4 ? Aug 01 02:01:04 used for hangover Aug 01 02:01:11 mickey|headache: D'oh Aug 01 02:01:13 Bernardo: oh, sounds like i need one of those Aug 01 02:01:14 mickey|headache: 3.4.4 Aug 01 02:01:18 koen :) Aug 01 02:01:43 mickey|headache: http://home.intekom.com/pharm/lennon/gurons-c.html Aug 01 02:02:25 or if you prefer in french: http://www.doctissimo.fr/medicament-GURONSAN.htm Aug 01 02:02:33 no, english is ok for me. Aug 01 02:03:08 * mickey|headache considers visiting the pharamacy Aug 01 02:05:39 so i decided to hack on OE a bit Aug 01 02:05:45 that goes well with a headache ;)) Aug 01 02:06:46 koen: thans for that LyX screenie - looks tasty. Now we need to get tetex up and running. Aug 01 02:07:01 :) Aug 01 02:07:16 tetex? what about texlive? :) Aug 01 02:07:31 is that another TeX distri? Aug 01 02:07:32 and have some extra RRECOMMENDS so lyx can actually do something Aug 01 02:07:37 koen: right Aug 01 02:08:15 I think my Spitz will run GPE only in the future - then I can work on my PhD everywhere using LyX Aug 01 02:08:22 * mickey|headache starts a GPE build Aug 01 02:10:17 someone run 2.6.13-rc3-mmX with hostap wifi?? Aug 01 02:10:46 not yet. I've seen you having problems in the log# Aug 01 02:13:12 For the record 2.6.13-rc3-mm3 is confirmed broken btw. I'm just agonising over the best way to fix it Aug 01 02:13:15 heh.. my BBMASK is 284 bytes long now... Aug 01 02:13:27 (nylon-*|xscreensaver|minimo|mozilla|firefox|thunderbird|squeak-*|micro-emacs|ypserv|ifupdown|mailx|python-inotify|wrt-utils|microcom|bitbake|gumstix|ion3|dhclient|gkdial*|python-pymp3|silo|pdm|apt|dpkg|gtk2-ssh-askpass|totem|logrotate-script|pwdutils|dhcp|u2nl|rpm2cpio*) Aug 01 02:13:34 not fetchable Aug 01 02:14:22 darn Aug 01 02:14:24 that's too man Aug 01 02:14:26 y Aug 01 02:14:33 RP: k, thanks Aug 01 02:15:37 mozilla ones are fetchable but takes too much time Aug 01 02:15:49 I'll fix the two python ones Aug 01 02:16:00 mozilla fetcher is broken Aug 01 02:16:26 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193 Aug 01 02:16:45 unless pkgconfig is suppossed to use 100% for >8 hours Aug 01 02:19:29 koen: its only broken when bitbake minimo for bitbake -b ../packages/minono.bb it works Aug 01 02:20:23 hrw|work: I tried hostap with 2.6.113-mmX and it doesnt work Aug 01 02:20:29 XorA: ok Aug 01 02:20:46 I already solved some problem by using plain gcc instead of the csl one Aug 01 02:20:57 koen: it seems to try and run do_compile instead of do_fetch from the script file Aug 01 02:21:25 XorA: have you seen the do_fetch? that's just plain ugly Aug 01 02:24:04 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5ae26883... 10/packages/python/ (python-inotify_0.0.6.bb python-pymp3_0.3.4.bb): use mirror for python-inotify and python-pymp3 Aug 01 02:25:59 koen: I didnt look too much, been busy Aug 01 02:28:24 XorA: -b breaks too over here Aug 01 02:29:50 hey bluelightning Aug 01 02:30:12 hi bluelightning Aug 01 02:30:14 hi koen Aug 01 02:30:16 hello all Aug 01 02:30:20 hi mickey|headache Aug 01 02:30:36 hmm, hope that headache's not too bad ::( Aug 01 02:32:45 nah, it's ok. and to be honest... considering the weekend, i deserve it ;) Aug 01 02:35:38 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5c8caead... 10/packages/gchub/gchub-module_svn.bb: fixed SRC_URI for gchub-module Aug 01 02:35:46 mickey|headache: sounds like my weekend too Aug 01 02:37:25 heh Aug 01 02:38:28 looks like "fetch *" is done here Aug 01 02:41:59 mickey|headache: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.bz2? there is no versioned archive? Aug 01 02:42:18 hrw|work: unfortunately not Aug 01 02:42:25 yafc ftp@ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine> dir Aug 01 02:42:28 -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 350 3083721 Apr 28 11:52 pine4.63.tar.bz2 Aug 01 02:42:33 lrwxrwxrwx 1 172 350 16 Apr 28 16:41 pine.tar.bz2 -> pine4.63.tar.bz2 Aug 01 02:42:33 oh Aug 01 02:42:39 tricky :) Aug 01 02:42:56 please switch to versioned one Aug 01 02:43:04 ya Aug 01 02:44:31 http://pastebin.ca/18975 Aug 01 02:45:05 morning Aug 01 02:45:32 morning reenoo_ Aug 01 02:45:40 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r209b7382... 10/packages/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl_2.1.19.bb: Initial ready to use changes. Aug 01 02:45:44 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r32a8152d... 10/packages/cyrus-imapd/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Adding configfiles and ready to use changes. Aug 01 02:46:31 hrw|work: some missing PREFERRED_PROVIDER entries Aug 01 02:46:33 are they set? Aug 01 02:46:59 mickey|headache: no Aug 01 02:47:26 my copy of base.bbclass set stamps for do_fetch so it is not visible that something was fetched for them Aug 01 02:47:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r62eeefaa... 10/packages/pine/pine_4.63.bb: pine: use versioned upstream tarball Aug 01 02:47:41 pine suxx Aug 01 02:47:45 heh Aug 01 02:47:51 hey mickey|headache Aug 01 02:51:08 hi hrw|work, reenoo_ Aug 01 02:51:19 hey bluelightning Aug 01 02:51:24 hi bluelightning Aug 01 02:52:50 pb_: can http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/hx4700/broken-out/ipaq-common-kernel24-specific.patch be applied too? Aug 01 02:53:14 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rba1902d8... 10/conf/machine/netvista.conf: Include Sylpheed and Gaim in the default GPE images. Aug 01 03:00:41 sure Aug 01 03:14:32 NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: http://www.vanille.de/temp/linux-2.4.17_mvl21.tar.gz Aug 01 03:14:36 NOTE: package montavista-sa-2.4.17-mvl21-r7: task do_fetch: failed Aug 01 03:14:39 mickey|headache: something for you... Aug 01 03:14:44 not really Aug 01 03:14:59 i still have no rights to distribute this package Aug 01 03:15:04 so i guess we need to remove it Aug 01 03:15:07 ah.. Aug 01 03:15:08 or say BROKEN=1 Aug 01 03:15:34 need to check with zecke Aug 01 03:15:40 IMO we can remove beagle support from OE completely Aug 01 03:16:06 another device which was not released finally? Aug 01 03:16:40 it was released with qtopia, but only in japan iirc Aug 01 03:16:57 gerwinin wanted to sell it with Opie Aug 01 03:17:04 but then tradesquare.nl went bankrupt Aug 01 03:18:38 yep Aug 01 03:21:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd92544c1... 10/conf/machine/ipaq-common.conf: put miplv6 under a _kernel24 guard, courtesy Philipp Zabel Aug 01 03:34:59 mickeyl|headache: heh, I see that vanille.de now has an org.openembedded.koen branch to replace the zecke one. Aug 01 03:35:23 * pb_ waits patiently for monotone to do its thing Aug 01 03:43:24 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra8eb779e... 10/packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_0.15.bb: Add libgpewidget to package dependencies. Aug 01 03:43:29 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r53dc3359... 10/packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser-maemo_0.15.bb: New description of hildon UI version of gpe-mini-browser. Aug 01 03:43:33 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r6faf4154... 10/packages/meta/meta-maemo.bb: Add gpe-mini-browser-hildon to the list of applications. Aug 01 03:43:37 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rd161fb82... 10/packages/gpe-mini-browser/ (2 files): Rename file to match the content a little bit more. Aug 01 03:48:26 pb_: yeah, some of our coworkers suffer from too big ego's ;) Aug 01 03:48:30 ~lart sharp for lack of 3100 kernel source Aug 01 03:48:58 hrw|work: the 1000 kernel won't wotk on the 3100? Aug 01 03:51:51 Bernardo|meeting: who knows... Aug 01 04:01:27 mickey|lunch: oh dear, monotone.vanille.de seems to have crashed now Aug 01 04:42:30 someone use totem? Aug 01 04:44:21 hrw|work: what is it, name sounds familiar? xine frontend? Aug 01 04:45:03 xine or gstreamer, yeah Aug 01 04:45:29 it's a video player for gnome. Aug 01 04:46:31 0.99.15 which we have in OE is not fetchable Aug 01 04:46:37 I'm now building 0.101 Aug 01 04:46:46 hrw|work: not used it for 2 years or so Aug 01 04:47:02 ok, very good Aug 01 04:47:55 koen: your monotone repo should now contain gnumeric-1.5.2 Aug 01 04:48:04 XorA: cool Aug 01 04:48:08 wrong channel sorry Aug 01 04:50:28 heh. do you guys have a #koen channel to go with the special branch? Aug 01 04:50:47 :) Aug 01 04:54:57 lunch time Aug 01 05:09:03 pb_: restarted Aug 01 05:09:25 thanks Aug 01 05:09:43 np. it sucks a bit, that the monotone server exits on net timeout Aug 01 05:09:48 guess we should submit a patch Aug 01 05:10:09 btw, is "monotone: warning: discarding revision cert packet 009ad2ebd87d84a529fa64970aef3233b7733d5e with unmet dependencies" cause for alarm? Aug 01 05:10:19 yeah, that does suck a bit Aug 01 05:10:21 not really Aug 01 05:10:39 that indicates branch leakage Aug 01 05:10:42 maybe you could make a small script to restart it in a loop Aug 01 05:11:10 while true ; do mt --db=/data/build/oe/OE.db serve ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox,nslu2-linux}" ; done Aug 01 05:11:15 that's what I have Aug 01 05:11:29 which can occasionally hang Aug 01 05:11:36 yeah, sometimes the server doesn't exit Aug 01 05:11:42 but hangs in a listen loop somewhere Aug 01 05:11:50 that case is rare though Aug 01 05:11:51 ah Aug 01 05:12:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2fb6fae8... 10/packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb: Use apm hack for ipaq-pxa270 too till we find a better solution. Aug 01 05:13:02 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2b11dc8f... 10/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Aug 01 05:13:02 goffice: version bump as needed by gnumeric-1.5.2 also fixed staging so the library is actually installed. Aug 01 05:13:02 libgsf: version bump as required by gnumeric-1.5.2 Aug 01 05:13:02 gnumeric: version bump to 1.5.2 Aug 01 05:13:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r294149e1... 10/packages/tslib/ (tslib/ipaq-pxa270/tslib.sh tslib_cvs.bb): Add support for ipaq-pxa270 Aug 01 05:13:10 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra7b3addb... 10/packages/gnumeric/ (gnumeric-1.5.2/remove-docs.patch gnumeric_1.5.2.bb): gnumeric-1.5.2: added patch to miss out docs files as these require scrollkeeper which OE distribs dont use currently. Aug 01 05:13:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3726c408... 10/packages/gtk-engines/gtk-clearlooks-engine_0.6.2.bb: Add clearlooks gtk engine Aug 01 05:47:48 koen: can you do "db migrate" on cvsexport monotone database? Aug 01 05:48:28 hrw|work: sure Aug 01 05:48:35 thx Aug 01 05:49:32 * koen time monotone --db=cvs.db db migrate Aug 01 05:51:37 * koen stops playing prince of persia and gets back to matlab Aug 01 05:53:48 building totem takes time.... Aug 01 06:04:23 * mickeyl fights with tetex Aug 01 06:05:15 pb_: do you have any idea why minimo (and all other moz stuff) do_fetch stalls on pkgconfig? Aug 01 06:06:20 nope Aug 01 06:06:26 what's the pkg-config command it's trying to run? Aug 01 06:06:42 I'm not even sure why do_fetch would be calling pkg-config at all. Aug 01 06:07:20 pkg-config libIDL-2.0 --libs Aug 01 06:08:16 and what happens if you run that manually? Aug 01 06:08:22 (in an oe environment, obviously) Aug 01 06:08:34 florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32015.png is it possible to make that to 'scale' and use the whole screen? Aug 01 06:09:43 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/openembedded/packages/gimp$ export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=~/OE/build/tmp/familiar/staging/arm-linux/lib/pkgconfig/ Aug 01 06:09:46 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/openembedded/packages/gimp$ pkg-config libIDL-2.0 --libs Aug 01 06:09:48 -lIDL-2 -lglib-2.0 Aug 01 06:11:14 koen: not easily... but you should ask bedboi, hw was working on a new day-view and made quite good progress iirc. Aug 01 06:11:29 yeah Aug 01 06:11:45 it's a shame he was always so reluctant to check those bits in Aug 01 06:13:08 hrw|work: migrate complete Aug 01 06:13:24 yep... right, the last patch for this didn't look too bad. Aug 01 06:13:52 koen: thx Aug 01 06:21:08 totem 0.101 = http://pastebin.com/326737 Aug 01 06:21:14 | No package 'libnautilus-burn' found Aug 01 06:33:48 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd636d91d... 10/packages/mailx/mailx_8.1.2-0.20040524cvs.bb: updated to 1:8.1.2-0.20040524cvs-4 from Debian 'stable' Aug 01 06:37:34 rwhitby: does nslu2 people use ifupdown? Aug 01 06:39:20 dunno - I never have. Aug 01 06:39:38 being a wired device, it's usually up from boot until shutdown Aug 01 06:40:18 what about wireless and usb dongles Aug 01 06:41:09 ok. marked as broken Aug 01 06:42:46 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra2d45198... 10/packages/ifupdown/ifupdown_0.6.4.bb: marked as BROKEN - it is unfetchable now as Debian use 0.6.7 even in 'sarge' Aug 01 06:43:30 aaarg, the gimp splatter a hardcoded '/usr/include' all over the place Aug 01 06:44:02 as far as I can see, ifupdown isn't built in openslug atleast Aug 01 06:45:41 NAiL: it is unfetchable so cannot be build Aug 01 06:46:59 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfc58a130... 10/packages/ion/ion3_0.0+ds20041104.bb: marked as BROKEN - it is unfetchable Aug 01 06:48:33 why do we mark it as broken, instead of mving it to non-working? Aug 01 06:48:55 * koen thinks of doing 'find . -name Makefile | xargs sed -i s:/usr/include::g' in a .bb Aug 01 06:50:15 koen: basically I use nonworking for totally unbuildable stuff Aug 01 06:51:14 shouldn't oesources come into play for unfetchable sources? Aug 01 06:51:58 it should Aug 01 06:52:18 but if they were unfetchable before oesources could get them... Aug 01 06:52:42 ah, I guess OE is so large that a large part of it is never built by anyone Aug 01 06:53:05 rwhitby: or rather was build by someone months ago Aug 01 06:53:37 * XorA runs in fear from people who want to run openoffice on a zaurus Aug 01 06:53:45 heh Aug 01 06:53:55 XorA: or OOo in X/qt Aug 01 06:54:07 XorA: or OOo in gentoo from scratch Aug 01 06:55:11 koen: I will now stop reading pdaXrom forum, they are scaring me Aug 01 06:55:32 koen: next it will be wine on qemu running Word Aug 01 06:55:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8098b9f7... 10/packages/xscreensaver/xscreensaver_4.16.bb: marked as BROKEN - upstream is at 4.22 now and patches do not apply Aug 01 06:59:40 who did ask for the bugzilla password for oe@handhelds.org? :) Aug 01 06:59:50 hh.org bugzilla Aug 01 07:00:07 they automatically add MAINTAINERs to bugzilla Aug 01 07:01:17 one of oe owners should probably go change that password Aug 01 07:01:27 already did :) Aug 01 07:02:15 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc5f4a94f... 10/packages/linux/gumstix_2.6.5-gnalm1-gum0.bb: marked as BROKEN - patch is not fetchable Aug 01 07:02:52 hrw|work: we need a 'bitbake list broken' or something Aug 01 07:04:03 koen: probably Aug 01 07:04:30 <[cc]smart> er, you guys saw this "Your bugzilla password" post on your mailin glist ? Aug 01 07:04:54 <[cc]smart> ah yes you did. Aug 01 07:04:57 <[cc]smart> sorry. Aug 01 07:05:24 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4a0b0ef1... 10/packages/dhclient/dhclient_2.0pl5.bb: fixed SRC_URI for dhclient Aug 01 07:09:32 BBBMASK = "(nylon-*|xscreensaver|minimo|mozilla|firefox|thunderbird|squeak-*|micro-emacs|wrt-utils|microcom|pdm|apt|dpkg|gtk2-ssh-askpass|totem|logrotate-script|u2nl|rpm2cpio*|montavista-sa)" Aug 01 07:09:38 shorter list... Aug 01 07:10:08 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r026ec5ef... 10/packages/dhcp/dhcp_3.0.2.bb: fixed SRC_URI for dhcp 3.0.2 (3.0.3 is available) Aug 01 07:18:37 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re8870181... 10/packages/totem/totem_0.99.15.bb: marked totem 0.99.15 as BROKEN - it is not fetchable Aug 01 07:18:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2c2884e9... 10/packages/totem/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added totem 0.101 - BROKEN due to lack of 'libnautilus-burn' package (or option to disable it) Aug 01 07:19:36 hrw|work: http://familiar.handhelds.org/source/v0.8.2/totem-0.99.15.tar.gz Aug 01 07:19:56 I think the OZ source archive has it too Aug 01 07:20:41 hrw|work: I bet other 'unfetchable' stuff will be in there too Aug 01 07:20:44 probably - I didnt looked into that places Aug 01 07:23:13 hrw|work: the requirment for a cd-burner on a PDA amuses me Aug 01 07:24:06 XorA: that's for burning the DVD's you edited on the pda :) Aug 01 07:24:25 hi CosmicPenguin Aug 01 07:24:49 morning Aug 01 07:24:56 CosmicPenguin: some of your stuff is now marked as broken - not fetchable stuff Aug 01 07:25:07 Thats possible Aug 01 07:25:09 you just need a network accessible cd-burner Aug 01 07:25:47 I wonder if my usb hdcase will handle DVD burners too Aug 01 07:32:59 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd01ad1a8... 10/packages/dpkg/ (dpkg_1.10.23.bb dpkg_1.10.27.bb dpkg_1.10.28.bb): updated dpkg 1.10.* to 1.10.28 (Debian 'stable' version) Aug 01 07:34:37 "lem kernel: Critical temperature reached (95 C), shutting down." Aug 01 07:34:41 hi Aug 01 07:35:03 florian_kc: sounds bad Aug 01 07:35:29 ~lart Asus Aug 01 07:35:29 * ibot pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Asus's head to break the homerun record Aug 01 07:37:18 ~lart gigabyte for the same as asus Aug 01 07:37:18 * ibot declares gigabyte a moron for the same as asus Aug 01 07:38:27 heh Aug 01 07:38:41 * NAiL notes his cpu temp is 26C and the case temp is 29C Aug 01 07:40:10 koen: one more thing for which BROKEN is usefull - if someone need BROKEN package then (s)he will fix it Aug 01 07:40:38 heh Aug 01 07:40:43 hrw|work: which of my packages is broken? Aug 01 07:40:45 what 's the difference between adding BROKEN or mv'ing them to non-working? Aug 01 07:40:51 That will inspire me to get a key Aug 01 07:41:16 I'd rather have them in nonworking than the nearly invisible 'BROKEN' Aug 01 07:41:57 CosmicPenguin: totem, xscreensaver Aug 01 07:42:23 * CoreDump|home just got a hh.org bugzilla password and wonders when he ordered one Aug 01 07:42:47 CoreDump|home: you're a MAINTAINER for a ipkg in the hh.org unstable feed Aug 01 07:42:52 og Aug 01 07:42:55 oh Aug 01 07:43:09 well i'm in Stockholm now Aug 01 07:43:48 ~lart xscreensaver Aug 01 07:43:48 * ibot urinates on xscreensaver Aug 01 07:45:12 They move older packages from their repo without warning Aug 01 07:47:35 so what is the wifi-router thingy we support on OE? Aug 01 07:48:25 meshcube? Aug 01 07:48:49 mithro: you thinking of the Linksys one? Aug 01 07:48:49 wg32 or something Aug 01 07:51:08 mithro: meshcube and wrt54g(s) Aug 01 07:54:07 whats a slug? Aug 01 07:54:15 hey Aug 01 07:54:20 mithro: NAS Aug 01 07:55:08 brilliant device :D Aug 01 07:55:33 <[cc]smart> hrw|work: hi Aug 01 07:55:34 brilliant might be over stating it, just a tad Aug 01 07:55:51 <[cc]smart> seems postfix doesn't succeed applying patches currently, too. Aug 01 07:56:32 CosmicPenguin: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191 is a fix for totem Aug 01 07:56:40 hi [cc]smart Aug 01 07:56:49 hrw|work: somebody is going to have to apply it then - its going to be a while before I get to it Aug 01 07:57:22 i need a wireless router Aug 01 07:58:20 mithro: wrt54gs works quite good for me (I use it now to irc) but I have to check it with other wifi device then my Zaurus as I get <100KiB/s on it Aug 01 07:58:50 hrw|work: CF WLAN cards are always slow compared to the real thing. Aug 01 07:59:35 CoreDump|home: but as much slow? usbnet is much faster Aug 01 07:59:46 i also need to get a new phone Aug 01 08:00:06 ok, 100kb/s is indeed slow. I'm getting about 350 kb/s Aug 01 08:00:50 <[cc]smart> hrw|work: seems i was wrong with postfix. should be ok Aug 01 08:01:46 [cc]smart: I never built postfix Aug 01 08:04:22 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8deb1c11... 10/packages/totem/totem_0.99.15.bb: fixed SRC_URI with part of patch from bug#191 Aug 01 08:05:59 ~hail hrw Aug 01 08:06:00 * ibot bows down to hrw and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 01 08:07:30 ;) Aug 01 08:07:46 CosmicPenguin: anyway totem 0.99.15 wont build for me Aug 01 08:08:25 Thats possible -totem has a history of adding in new and strange dependancies Aug 01 08:08:33 hello Aug 01 08:08:48 CosmicPenguin: it looks for libxml in wrong place Aug 01 08:08:56 hrw|work: Yeah, I saw that bug too Aug 01 08:09:00 sigh Aug 01 08:09:11 CosmicPenguin: looked into #191? Aug 01 08:09:18 This is probably why I stopped using totem... :) Aug 01 08:09:34 I try to compile an image (opie-image) and got errorw of "undefined reference to `_errno'" Aug 01 08:10:15 during glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0 section Aug 01 08:10:41 anyone has similar experience? Aug 01 08:11:54 works for me with machine=collie Aug 01 08:13:48 hi drw Aug 01 08:13:49 hi schurig Aug 01 08:13:57 hrw|work: hi 2u2! Aug 01 08:14:12 hi hrw|work Aug 01 08:14:21 Things are geting better with MT - only 25 seconds per revision now Aug 01 08:14:41 CosmicPenguin: /me is glad :-) Aug 01 08:14:50 CosmicPenguin: self-compiled monotone? Aug 01 08:14:58 CosmicPenguin: get faster opterons ;) Aug 01 08:15:04 Same one as before - I wonder if the server got better Aug 01 08:15:20 koen: heh - they won't let us monotone from behind the proxy Aug 01 08:15:30 Hi, has anyone encountered problem when compiling the "glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0" package? Aug 01 08:18:28 i guess i just have to find a cheap one of something on this http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware Aug 01 08:22:09 startoe: i built for two arm based platforms today and it seems to compile fine. Aug 01 08:26:42 startoe: what platform are you compiling for? Aug 01 08:30:05 do we have GENTOO_MIRROR const? Aug 01 08:30:38 no Aug 01 08:32:47 Thats a good idea Aug 01 08:35:02 thanks for the reply, Cosmic Aug 01 08:35:20 I compile for x86 at the moment...it's all for test for now Aug 01 08:35:46 test Aug 01 08:36:05 and thanks florian too Aug 01 08:36:43 I actually tried to compile for quite some times already but all stopped with the same error Aug 01 08:44:55 ~seen jh_ Aug 01 08:44:57 ~seen jh Aug 01 08:45:00 jh_ <~jason@host-69-144-80-55.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 8d 18h 40m 39s ago, saying: 'cool, thanks'. Aug 01 08:45:00 jh <~user@69.144.85.206> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 66d 12h 27m 13s ago, saying: 'luke-jr_: ahh, i misread it.'. Aug 01 08:59:34 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfc38fb83... 10/packages/gtk2-ssh-askpass/gtk2-ssh-askpass_0.3.bb: fixed SRC_URI for gtk2-ssh-askpass 0.3 - I set it to Polish Gentoo mirror Aug 01 08:59:38 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * raded0e5f... 10/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/c7x0/keymap-2.6.map initscripts_1.0.bb): Aug 01 08:59:38 c7x0 keymap changes: Aug 01 08:59:38 fixed keymap file (unicode chars was b0rken) Aug 01 08:59:38 fixed CapsLock key (close bug#107) Aug 01 09:00:02 savannah sucks Aug 01 09:01:26 NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate); Aug 01 09:01:26 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc Aug 01 09:01:50 I get this compilin gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4+csl-arm-20050603 Aug 01 09:02:07 and it fails to get the source via cvs from savannah Aug 01 09:02:19 Any suggestions on how to move forward? Aug 01 09:02:39 try to enable CVS_TARBALL_STASH? Aug 01 09:02:47 Crofton: you might have to wait some time before trying again Aug 01 09:02:49 I fetched it few days ago Aug 01 09:02:58 I had this problem before Aug 01 09:03:18 Yeah, I am wondering if I can use prefered version as a way out also? Aug 01 09:03:40 bye, see you guys tomorrow Aug 01 09:04:25 I am using the omap5912osk machine file Aug 01 09:05:52 koen: well I guess I#ve broken process_builds? Aug 01 09:06:24 koen: tinderclient is broken? you guys are on ancient bitbake Aug 01 09:06:35 Crofton: what package did you compile? Aug 01 09:06:58 I am tryin gto compile boostrap-image Aug 01 09:07:21 the problem is build gcc-cross-initial Aug 01 09:08:12 I didn't remember I used savannah. I used vanille Aug 01 09:09:16 gcc-cross-initial has several available versions Aug 01 09:10:24 I did it fine one hour ago with that one. but I have problem with glic-2.3.5+cvs20050627 Aug 01 09:12:54 glibc Aug 01 09:14:31 Crofton: my only suggestion is try it another time Aug 01 09:14:45 i am fair new to OE Aug 01 09:15:35 Yeah, I am killing time until I try again :) Aug 01 09:15:49 I should google for gcc-csl-arm :) Aug 01 09:19:17 cu Aug 01 09:30:07 jh___: did you get emacs working ok? I'm still having issues with certain keys (specifically Alt....) Aug 01 10:35:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfa0de110... 10/packages/gimp/gimp_2.3.2.bb: Add gimp 2.3.2 with a nasty sed script in do_configure_append since I couldn't figure out how to patch to autofoo files to stop including -I/usr/include Aug 01 10:37:17 There's no shame in using sed.. :) Aug 01 10:38:10 pheew... Aug 01 10:38:13 CosmicPenguin: find ${S} -name Makefile | xargs sed -i s:'-I$(includedir)':'-I.':g Aug 01 10:38:32 heh Aug 01 10:38:36 ok - there's a little shame in that Aug 01 10:38:39 but not much Aug 01 10:42:04 CosmicPenguin: I used to have a sun-cvm.bb with almost entirely consisted of sedding out wrong assumptions Aug 01 10:42:20 CosmicPenguin: my boss got a bit scared of OE after seeing that Aug 01 11:05:16 LOL Aug 01 11:05:19 " I have visited www.openembedded.org and noticed that your website is not listed on some search engines. I am sure that through our service the number of people who visit your website will definitely increase. SeekerCenter is a unique technology that instantly submits your website to over 500,000 search engines and directories -- a really low-cost and effective way to advertise your site. For more details please go to SeekerCenter.net." Aug 01 11:16:35 koen: looks like you just did what I basically did for the pcre package. Would you mind looking at my pcre "bug" ans perhaps applying the sed script for that one as well? Aug 01 11:47:27 koen: I think I've brokem process builds? Aug 01 11:47:52 you did? Aug 01 11:49:23 koen: I feel not too good currently. but I plan to print the http post result (in tinderclient.bbclass) Aug 01 11:49:36 zecke_: no rush Aug 01 11:50:04 I'm too busy trying to play prince of persia on my handheld Aug 01 12:01:14 What could I do on the Z to generate a large process (in terms of memory usage)? Aug 01 12:01:23 start minimo Aug 01 12:01:33 bitbake Aug 01 12:01:34 I can't run X Aug 01 12:01:56 The kernel people are suggesting a compiliation of the linux kernel :) Aug 01 12:02:02 heh Aug 01 12:02:10 monotone Aug 01 12:02:16 that'll kill your Z ;) Aug 01 12:02:32 the nslu2 people are using montone on their slugs Aug 01 12:02:33 stone dead... Aug 01 12:02:48 but for >10 revs they download a db snapshot :) Aug 01 12:03:22 RP: seriously, I'd just write a one-liner that mallocs something in a loop Aug 01 12:03:48 I'm just fustrated I can't think of anything offhand :) Aug 01 12:06:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd0b64767... 10/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins_0.8.7.bb: Disable cairo support in gst-plugins since it uses the old api, 0.8.10 uses the new api, but someone else will have to add that Aug 01 12:09:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5fe78440... 10/packages/dbus/dbus_0.23.4.bb: Bump PR for dbus' initscript change Aug 01 12:16:35 RP: fork bomb it Aug 01 12:23:03 CosmicPenguin: tempting :) Aug 01 12:33:07 hrw|gone: cheers for the zug posting :D Aug 01 12:35:50 mickeyl: hey Aug 01 12:35:57 hiho Aug 01 12:36:06 * mickeyl dances a jig Aug 01 12:36:12 NOTE: package tetex-3.0: completed Aug 01 12:36:17 :D Aug 01 12:36:20 what a bitch Aug 01 12:36:31 took me two days Aug 01 12:36:40 congrats, i remember what a pain in the ass that one is Aug 01 12:37:54 hmmm... is it me, or is the new bitbake signficantly faster? Aug 01 12:40:50 CosmicPenguin: just you Aug 01 12:40:58 mickeyl: hey Aug 01 12:41:06 mickeyl: wow, my SIMpad got usable by this again Aug 01 12:41:06 zecke: how are things? Aug 01 12:41:09 really? Aug 01 12:41:10 I'm not complaining at all Aug 01 12:41:11 cool Aug 01 12:41:40 ok, now let's see how to package this beast in a sane way Aug 01 12:44:14 mickeyl: now I've tex? Aug 01 12:44:19 mickeyl: yes it is usable Aug 01 12:44:55 boah ist mir schlecht... Aug 01 12:45:38 * zecke_ checks why these bastards always brick the tinderbox ;) Aug 01 12:46:03 mickeyl: now we need latex-beamer ;) Aug 01 12:46:49 one step after another Aug 01 12:47:02 mickeyl: no hurry Aug 01 12:47:03 next thing is to try if it works at all... Aug 01 12:47:13 mickeyl: you luck for reasonings to not work on your Ph.D? Aug 01 12:47:14 then I want to get it working with LyX and gv Aug 01 12:47:22 zecke: of course :D Aug 01 12:47:31 "I need tex on my Zaurus to continue my writing" Aug 01 12:47:34 zecke_: actually this is remotely related, because I ... Aug 01 12:47:38 righto, you say it :)) Aug 01 12:47:45 "It is too hot inside the buildings I need to carry my Lyx around" Aug 01 12:47:48 hehe Aug 01 12:48:02 Ciao all Aug 01 12:48:20 Pigi: hey, I owe you the patches Aug 01 12:48:26 * zecke_ boots FBSD Aug 01 12:48:30 heh Aug 01 12:48:34 oh mickeyl congrats to tetex, now I am happy after I failed on tetex Aug 01 12:48:40 thank you Aug 01 12:48:56 how did you solved autoconf? Aug 01 12:49:34 tubbie|home: i patched the configure script, added tetex-native for some tools, and hacked around with environment variables Aug 01 12:51:22 I will take it for learning, but since it took you two days, I would have needed one year or more Aug 01 12:52:07 "How hard was it to include tex?" Mickeyl 'Knuth' Lauer: "Everything was pretty easy." Aug 01 12:52:16 * mickeyl big grin Aug 01 12:52:54 * chouimat waves to all Aug 01 12:53:00 hey chouimat Aug 01 12:53:31 mickeyl: hi ... Aug 01 12:55:20 lyx would mean I must go for my own clamshell Aug 01 12:55:44 yeah. LyX is actually my #1 reason to dedicate one Zaurus to GPE Aug 01 12:56:09 after I cowardly decided to stop my QtEmbedded port Aug 01 12:56:38 it would've needed a dedicated QtE config since it relies on exceptions Aug 01 12:56:41 and rtti Aug 01 12:57:21 Pigi: ping Aug 01 12:57:27 Pigi: pigi@hh.org works? Aug 01 12:57:29 zecke, pong Aug 01 12:57:33 it should. Aug 01 12:57:43 or better pigi at pigi.org Aug 01 12:58:31 yeah, the hh.org works well :) Aug 01 13:00:24 Pigi: sent Aug 01 13:00:32 Pigi: do you've time to look on it? Aug 01 13:00:45 Pigi: basicly: does not exist Aug 01 13:01:00 Pigi: strndup does not exist as well -> libreplace revived as NOINST lib Aug 01 13:01:18 Pigi: features.h does not exist on FreeBSD -> drop libc5 support from lib-bb Aug 01 13:01:23 zecke, I think I have some time now. I think the vfs.h won't be absolutelly a problem Aug 01 13:01:46 Pigi: I do not like the #ifdef FReeBSD stuff Aug 01 13:02:04 Pigi: as same applies to NetBSD; OpenBSD, DragonFly... so doing it right would require config checks Aug 01 13:02:06 and iirc also this features.h won't. I'm not sure about the strndup. I will give a look at the whole patch and see what I can do Aug 01 13:02:29 HAVE_VFS_H, HAVE_STATFS_H... or similiar Aug 01 13:09:23 zecke_, what basically I don't understand is why a lot of changes are on files I didn't even know they were there :) Aug 01 13:09:32 like "compile" Aug 01 13:12:14 or "depcomp" ... Aug 01 13:14:28 Pigi: it is the output of cvs diff Aug 01 13:14:38 Pigi: so a lot of things are dirty... Aug 01 13:15:00 heh Aug 01 13:15:27 Pigi: I ran autoreconf as well... Aug 01 13:15:43 yeah, I see ;) Aug 01 13:16:20 I must say I don't agree with the changes in ipkg_cmd.c Aug 01 13:16:23 In other countries one says "make love not war" and here our youth is asked to fight liberalism, coruption Aug 01 13:16:26 lol Aug 01 13:16:34 Pigi: cvs diff Aug 01 13:17:37 zecke_, I know, but I don't like thatipkg don't say nothing if everithing goes well :) Also in oe there is a patch to remove my "Successfully terminated" message :) Aug 01 13:17:39 Pigi: this is from ipkg-native of oe from two weeks Aug 01 13:17:51 Pigi: hehe Aug 01 13:17:51 ah ok. Aug 01 13:18:55 zecke_, I think that some of the #ifdef (__FreeBSD__) cannot be avoided.... Aug 01 13:19:23 Pigi: well #ifdef HAVE_ENDIAN_H #include #endif Aug 01 13:19:28 Pigi: same for SYS_ENDIAN_H Aug 01 13:19:45 yes, you're right Aug 01 13:20:08 Pigi: I could write these autoconf checks given enough templates and time Aug 01 13:20:54 monotone pulls on ewi... Aug 01 13:21:00 If you can find time, I think it would be great. How much in a hurry you are for commiting such patches ? Aug 01 13:21:11 Pigi: no hurry at all Aug 01 13:21:19 Pigi: FreeBSD breaks on flex-native currently Aug 01 13:21:39 "Hey," said Shadow. "Huginn or Muninn, or whoever you are." Aug 01 13:21:39 The bird turned, head tipped, suspiciously, on one side, and stared at him with bright eyes. Aug 01 13:21:42 "Say 'Nevermore,'" said Shadow. Aug 01 13:21:44 Ok. I will start my vacation on thursday. I think I would have some time during the next two weeks ... Aug 01 13:21:44 "Fuck you," said the raven. Aug 01 13:21:59 welcome kergoth ;) Aug 01 13:22:15 Pigi: 1.) Build OE on FreeBSD 2.) Build FreeBSD image on FreeBSD 3.) build FreeBSD image on Linux 4.) build FreeBSD on Windows using cygwin Aug 01 13:22:17 even..... "welcome to you, kergoth " :) Aug 01 13:22:58 kergoth: welcome Mr. Poe Aug 01 13:23:04 heh :) Aug 01 13:23:47 zecke_ I will see if I can include the strndup somewhere outside the libreplace, maybe in libbb or something like this. Aug 01 13:23:50 kergoth: hi Aug 01 13:23:54 this should save some space Aug 01 13:24:04 Pigi: we could require libstrings on FreeBSD as well Aug 01 13:24:37 OT: Do you guys know the film called 'Z' from the ~1970? Aug 01 13:26:24 * Pigi hates autotool even more..... Aug 01 13:27:29 Pigi: I start to use autotools nowadays Aug 01 13:33:39 Pigi: it's a sliding scale... raw gcc/ld, crafted Makefiles, autofiends, magic? Aug 01 13:34:12 it's a sliding scale, in heavy descent.... Aug 01 13:35:04 See, now there's a screen name with power! Aug 01 13:48:34 koen:

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Aug 01 13:50:30 wow 'Z' is awesome ;) Aug 01 13:51:00 do you guys know more movices of Cost Gravas? Aug 01 13:55:27 koen: ping Aug 01 13:55:36 pong Aug 01 13:55:56 koen: could you call process_builds from cgi-bin? Aug 01 13:56:04 koen: and could you check the error.log? Aug 01 13:56:35 zecke_, why do you need sys/mount.h and sys/param.h in FBSD ? Aug 01 13:57:04 Pigi: the manpages suggested them Aug 01 13:57:14 Pigi: what was the syscall? fsstat? Aug 01 13:58:12 zecke_: process_builds isn't doing anything besides idling at the prompt Aug 01 13:58:18 zecke_, I don't know. You put them instead of vfs.h in ipkg_utils.c Aug 01 13:59:10 Pigi: how is the syscall called? fsstat? diskstat? Aug 01 13:59:33 koen: it waits for your tinder report ;) Aug 01 13:59:38 statfs Aug 01 13:59:38 koen: anything interesting in error log? Aug 01 13:59:56 Pigi: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=statfs&apropos=0&sektion=2&manpath=FreeBSD+5.4-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html Aug 01 14:00:21 I see. Aug 01 14:01:15 zecke_ I suppose you don't have sys/vfs.h or sys/statfs.h isn't it ? Aug 01 14:01:23 Pigi: right Aug 01 14:01:31 zecke_: [Mon Aug 1 23:01:30 2005] process_builds.cgi: No Tinderbox variables found in message. Aug 01 14:01:47 Pigi: I'm a FBSD idiot, so I notice stuff only by broken compile Aug 01 14:02:07 that's the good news. The bad news is that on linux there is either sys/mount.h than sys/param.h. Aug 01 14:02:30 Pigi: right so HAVE_VFS_H is needed ;) same for the BSD includes Aug 01 14:02:32 Then, working with autotools would find ( and define ) them. Let me see what it would do when compiling. Aug 01 14:02:55 that's a good idea..... Aug 01 14:03:47 Pigi: AC_TRY_COMPILE + AH_TEMPLATE could work Aug 01 14:04:28 Actually I'm just adding the header files to AC_CHECK_HEADERS. Aug 01 14:04:33 could it be enough ? Aug 01 14:04:39 Pigi: + } elsif( !main::is_time_valid($TINDERBOX{'starttime'}) ) { Aug 01 14:04:39 + $err_string .= ( Aug 01 14:04:39 + "Variable: 'tinderbox: starttime' is wrong.\n". Aug 01 14:04:39 + " $TINDERBOX{'starttime'}" ); } else { Aug 01 14:04:41 Pigi: sure Aug 01 14:04:50 any perl guru sees something wrong here? Aug 01 14:07:13 koen: please check the error.log Aug 01 14:07:45 [Mon Aug 01 23:07:17 2005] [error] [client 130.89.145.130] Premature end of script headers: process_builds.cgi Aug 01 14:08:06 zecke_, not too much, but is a little sniplet of code. Aug 01 14:08:23 I'm just not sure about the "main::" part Aug 01 14:09:20 Pigi: that exists Aug 01 14:13:17 brb Aug 01 14:16:13 koen: well... Aug 01 14:17:04 koen: http://pastebin.ca/19030 Aug 01 14:17:16 koen: \n + content from pastebin to the script Aug 01 14:17:39 koen: logs are on the server. It must be build that mocks up Aug 01 14:17:48 koen: I bet these are the '.' in the tree Aug 01 14:18:00 bitbake:/var/www/feed# tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log -n1 Aug 01 14:18:00 [Mon Aug 01 23:17:48 2005] [error] [client 130.89.193.158] Premature end of script headers: process_builds.cgi Aug 01 14:18:49 Magic number checking on storable file failed at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_retrieve.al) line 328, at /data/tinderbox2/lib/Persistence/Storable.pm line 116 Aug 01 14:18:53 Aug 01 14:18:56 [Mon Aug 1 22:58:09 2005] Can't open ewe: No such file or directory at /data/tinderbox2/lib/MailProcess.pm line 130. Aug 01 14:18:59 [Mon Aug 1 22:58:09 2005] No Tinderbox variables found in message. Aug 01 14:19:01 [Mon Aug 1 23:01:30 2005] No Tinderbox variables found in message. Aug 01 14:19:25 www-data zecke Aug 01 14:19:53 hmmweird Aug 01 14:20:27 koen: could you move data_dir and html_output to my homedir Aug 01 14:20:32 koen: and then run tinder.cgi Aug 01 14:21:01 moving.... Aug 01 14:21:30 it must have been these '.' Aug 01 14:24:10 Pigi: crash course on perl: if ( $TINDERBOX{'buildtree'} =~ "[\.;/\\]" ) { $errstring = "Go to hell, idiot" } Aug 01 14:24:31 does this group match '.', ';', '/' or '\'? Aug 01 14:25:44 http://pastebin.ca/19031 Aug 01 14:25:50 what does error.log say? Aug 01 14:25:58 what does manual calling say? Aug 01 14:26:04 could you make me www-data again? Aug 01 14:28:15 /data/tinderbox2 is owned by www-data.users Aug 01 14:28:18 and you are in users Aug 01 14:28:30 koen: I can not run process_builds.cgi Aug 01 14:28:45 Could not open logfile: /data/tinderbox2/tinderbox_oe.log Aug 01 14:32:49 zecke: Opie build for x86 works now Aug 01 14:32:58 nice Aug 01 14:33:12 zecke: Although with a lot patches and updating of packages Aug 01 14:33:33 use the bugzilla please Aug 01 14:35:25 koen: did you change some rights on the server? the bitbake tb stopped working as well?! Aug 01 14:36:37 I didn't do anything Aug 01 14:37:17 hehe. I can not do much Aug 01 14:37:32 I can not run process_builds.cgi/tinder.cgi Aug 01 14:37:42 and I can not see the logs Aug 01 14:37:51 so we need to postpone it Aug 01 14:37:54 cya tomorrow Aug 01 14:38:12 okidoki Aug 01 14:38:24 you can see into the /var/log/apache2/error.log now Aug 01 14:39:58 re Aug 01 14:40:07 man I wanted to sleep ;) Aug 01 14:40:24 okay premature end of script does not say much :} Aug 01 14:40:35 zecke_ before you leave.... Aug 01 14:40:59 if do I send you antoher patch tomorrow, or later, would you try it on a FBSD ? Aug 01 14:41:19 yes Aug 01 14:41:31 ok. I will send it in few days. Aug 01 14:42:42 koen: could you allow me to su(do) www-data? Aug 01 14:46:15 zecke: Do you know a good bootloader for x86 ? Aug 01 14:46:22 grub Aug 01 14:46:25 lilo Aug 01 14:46:33 grub being the favorite nowadays Aug 01 14:46:43 JustinP for a flashcard ? Aug 01 14:48:34 zecke_ yet there ? Aug 01 14:49:01 Pigi: still Aug 01 14:49:17 I think we have a little problem with "dirname" Aug 01 14:49:35 in linux is char *dirname(char *path); Aug 01 14:49:45 while in FBSD is char *dirname(const char *path); Aug 01 14:50:09 you applied a patch for then "const" but in linux doesn't compile Aug 01 14:50:28 gerwinin: you said x86. Those are both bootloads which work fine on x86 machines. If you need it to support specific hardware check their docs. If the BIOS supports it them lilo and grub should both work. Aug 01 14:51:34 how can I make the SDL libraries link against libsdl-x11 instead of libdsl-qpe? I tried a bitbake from a clean tmp and they used libsdl-qpe. Do I need to alter PREFERRED_PROVIDER? Aug 01 14:52:05 bitbake libsdl-x11 first, or set the preferred provider Aug 01 14:53:36 JustinP will give it a try let's see what happens Aug 01 14:54:27 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl="libsdl-x11" Aug 01 14:55:34 JustinP: what part of the jscore is not supposed to link against pcre do you fail to understand? Aug 01 14:56:37 Pigi: oh damn Aug 01 14:56:45 JustinP: it's got its own copy of pcre which isn't built properly when there's a libpcre.la in staging or somewhere else Aug 01 14:56:53 Pigi: do not use a forward declaration then Aug 01 14:57:06 koen: why is the tinderbox hoased? unbelievable :} Aug 01 14:57:16 * koen blames perl Aug 01 14:57:23 JustinP: removing those works around the problem Aug 01 14:58:14 no kidding, /me schedules something for the weekend Aug 01 15:02:44 11/29/2005 22:02:35 Aug 01 15:02:47 weird Aug 01 15:04:03 any monotone export around? Aug 01 15:04:36 I suspect either someone reverted my change, or I did not push it Aug 01 15:05:31 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/OpenEmbeddedBuild/status.html Aug 01 15:05:49 * zecke_ feels sorry for guys using a broken tinderclient.bbclass Aug 01 15:05:55 ah, it seems to be working again Aug 01 15:10:26 koen: can someone push something for me? Aug 01 15:11:22 sure Aug 01 15:11:33 * zecke_ turned his machine on... Aug 01 15:11:41 s/-td/+td/ Aug 01 15:12:25 ti = datetime.datetime(*ti[0:7])-td Aug 01 15:12:28 that one? Aug 01 15:12:57 reenoo_: * It has to link against its *OWN* pcre doesn't it? This is what I'm referring to. As I said in the bug report I removed the file and cleaned and it *sitll did not work*. Aug 01 15:18:27 koen: wait I've more stuff uncomitted Aug 01 15:18:39 tb2 rewrite was canceled... Aug 01 15:27:10 any recommendations on where to ask about networking gear on linux/bsd? Aug 01 15:27:28 * Pigi needs to sleep now. Aug 01 15:27:38 goodnight all Aug 01 15:27:43 see ya Pigi Aug 01 15:40:50 *cry* someone undid my tinderbox changes... Aug 01 15:41:46 * chouimat goes back abusing xmpp Aug 01 15:43:15 zecke: undid? Aug 01 15:45:42 mithro: while merging Aug 01 15:49:12 zeche_: how fun. Perhaps they got conflicts and failed to resolve them correctly. Aug 01 15:49:39 JustinP: I don't know what happened to them Aug 01 15:49:42 in my experience the "right way" to resolve monotone merge conflicts is to manually choose the closest common ancestor Aug 01 15:49:53 it worked for some, so I had pushed them... Aug 01 15:49:59 I looked into my file Aug 01 15:50:06 did a mt pull; mt update Aug 01 15:50:10 and my changes vanished Aug 01 15:50:17 so I must have pushed my changes Aug 01 15:50:17 zecke_: If it was during a merge it's quite likely the merger chose the wrong version to merge Aug 01 15:51:16 http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe-commits/current/0502.html Aug 01 15:51:20 that one is missing Aug 01 15:51:55 koen|sleep: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe-commits/current/0502.html Aug 01 15:52:10 zecke_: can you find it in a certain revision you pushed? Can you see what merge may have killed it? Aug 01 15:58:16 * france is back (gone 64:56:04) Aug 01 15:58:27 zecke_: try this: http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=faa2fa21cd8b3913cea3925dafd04edf752bca02 Aug 01 15:58:32 looks like this merge kills your changes Aug 01 15:59:08 your changes are on the bottom right of the graph in 2c3....which is used my koen a few times then merged Aug 01 15:59:12 into nslu2 branch Aug 01 15:59:26 probably a propagate back from that branch killed it.... Aug 01 16:00:22 yep, looks like that's it Aug 01 16:00:41 rwhitby's revision is then taken into nail's which is in both branches Aug 01 16:00:56 * JustinP wonders if anyone's listening Aug 01 16:01:05 yeah Aug 01 16:01:16 I'm listening :P Aug 01 16:03:48 anyway, looks like that's what happened. Is rwhitby around so he can explain why it was merged that way? Or whether or not it was a manual merge? Aug 01 16:04:19 rwhitby: ping? Aug 01 16:04:33 JustinP: ah nice Aug 01 16:04:44 I don't think it was a manual merge Aug 01 16:04:52 JustinP: so the tinderclient.bbclass without that change was common ancestor Aug 01 16:05:24 monotone's merging code is just one giant bug/design mistake Aug 01 16:05:55 there's no reason at all why a merge would have to care about files I haven't touched Aug 01 16:06:09 and that happens all the time here Aug 01 16:06:45 reenoo_: I agree. When I propgate from the oe branch to my own it often thinks I have to merge things manually. So I get the closest common ancestor and epxlicit_merge them Aug 01 16:06:49 that seems to work fine Aug 01 16:07:03 hey pb_ Aug 01 16:07:07 hi reenoo_ Aug 01 16:07:40 JustinP: maybe I'm just missing the point. but I simply don't understand the reasoning behind monotone's behaviour in that respect Aug 01 16:08:54 reenoo_: did you see the recent e-mail about the (un)viability of monotone's 3-way merge? Aug 01 16:09:06 it has issues with both close and far ancestors Aug 01 16:09:12 isn't that nice Aug 01 16:09:33 I like the idea behind the "theory of patches" better....then again I've never tried darcs or any other of these systems myself... Aug 01 16:09:37 anyway good nite Aug 01 16:09:39 JustinP: pong Aug 01 16:09:49 zecke_: good night Aug 01 16:10:02 JustinP: I saw the original reply to my bug report. then lost track of the discussion on monotone-devel Aug 01 16:10:08 pb_: a monotone bug undid a change by automatically merging Aug 01 16:10:19 'night zecke_ Aug 01 16:10:56 zecke_: heh, oh dear Aug 01 16:11:22 mind, statistically speaking I guess there is a fair chance that the change was mistaken anyway Aug 01 16:11:35 rwhitby: either that of a propagate you committed has a manual merge where you chose the "wrong" revision of a file Aug 01 16:11:38 zecke_: I did do one manual merge that involved tinderclient, but was careful to include the "return 120" change. Aug 01 16:12:00 the change was return 200....right zecke_? Aug 01 16:12:03 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=c242be62d1ba6d323b11261a5f8ac5b2c1101fd7&id2=2c3b323f578c3e3f368933af2777b403d390143d&fname=classes/tinderclient.bbclass Aug 01 16:12:31 JustinP: let me take a look. I did it once, and wasn't completely sure, so I blew away my database and restarted the merge and did it carefully. Aug 01 16:13:03 fwiw, return 120 was the intended version Aug 01 16:13:06 JustinP: when I click that link, it tries to download getdiff.py to my machine :-) Aug 01 16:13:17 well, this is the diff that zecke_ sent me. He said this one was killed so I traced the merges and yours is the one that seems ot have killed it Aug 01 16:13:31 rwhitby: works fine for me...http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=2c3b323f578c3e3f368933af2777b403d390143d Aug 01 16:13:42 JustinP: fully accept it was my merge - just seeing whether it was a stuff-up by me or monotone Aug 01 16:13:51 * JustinP understand Aug 01 16:14:11 looks like you propagated to nslu2 branch then that was propgated or merged back into org.oe.dev Aug 01 16:14:21 rwhitby: lucky you. all I get is a python exception on diff :) Aug 01 16:15:18 yeah, I get those sometimes as well... Aug 01 16:15:46 OK, that revision was my manual merge. So it looks like it was my personal stuff-up rather than a monotone bug. Many apologies everyone :-( Aug 01 16:16:11 How can I make restitution? Aug 01 16:16:24 zecke_: have you recomitted your change? Aug 01 16:16:39 I was just trying to track it down and figure out if it was a manual merge or not Aug 01 16:17:16 rwhitby: when I get manual merges on files I haven't altered I force monotone to use the closest common ancestor. That pretty much always shuts it up. Aug 01 16:17:39 then again I'm *only* propagating from org.openembedded.dev into my branch, never the other way and never from another branch Aug 01 16:18:32 JustinP: is there an automated way to find the closest common ancestore, or is it manual search with viewmtn? Aug 01 16:18:54 rwhitby: I us emonotone-viz Aug 01 16:19:15 well actually I can usually use the command-line since I usually don't commit much on my own branch Aug 01 16:20:15 For that manual merge, I had determined that the left ancestor was the propagate-from branch and the right ancestor was the propagate-to branch, and did it that way. Aug 01 16:20:45 (chose left for OE files and right for nslu2-linux files) Aug 01 16:21:14 and I specifically did eyeball that 120 change. Maybe I just told xxdiff to save the wrong file :-( Aug 01 16:23:04 who knows...IMHO that merge process is very error-prone Aug 01 16:23:17 and it's also very hard to know what to merge when you're not the author Aug 01 16:23:32 Indeed. Aug 01 16:23:40 if it showed who the author was for each, when, what branch, and perhaps showed the revision tree... Aug 01 16:23:56 of course this would mean a special merge tool Aug 01 16:24:04 yes, that would definitely help Aug 01 16:25:45 I like meld's UI but it give absolutely no info...even filename is lost... Aug 01 16:36:41 JustinP: do I need to reinstate the change, or has someone else cleaned up my mess ? Aug 01 16:39:37 rwhitby: unless someone has committed it since zecke_ mentioned it a little while ago then no. I suggest you put those changes back in and commit again. Or wait for zecke_ to do it...you don't want to commit the wrong changes back in...:-| Aug 01 16:40:17 I'm recommitting the change now. I try to clean up any messes I make :-) Aug 01 16:42:33 rwhitby: very good :-) Aug 01 16:47:28 reenoo_: fwiw, I think the actual issue in bug 198 is that the jscore build is picking up the wrong version of pcre.h. It doesn't seem to be related to libpcre.la directly, though I can well imagine that there are similar issues in that area. Aug 01 16:54:03 ah, the .h file....could very well be Aug 01 16:54:10 thanks for the tip Aug 01 17:04:15 pb_: removing the libpcre.la from staging works around the problem for me Aug 01 17:05:01 pb_: I haven't checked why that would do it Aug 01 17:05:34 I think that's probably a different variant of the problem. Aug 01 17:07:04 possibly Aug 01 17:08:13 I looked at jscore's configure.ac/Makefile.am and couldn't find anything obviously bogus although it seemed somewhat hack'ish Aug 01 17:10:27 I think the problem is that it ends up with -I${STAGING_DIR}/include before -I../pcre on the compiler command line. It's probably some bad interaction between CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, and the OE environment variables. Aug 01 17:11:22 Just zapping CPPFLAGS in the .bb file probably stands a fair chance of clearing it up. Aug 01 17:11:46 JustinP: I've commited the change to nslu2-linux, and it should be propagated to oe in the next 15 minutes Aug 01 17:12:00 Again, *big* apologies to everyone for that stuff-up. Aug 01 17:13:11 * CosmicPenguin blames monotone Aug 01 17:13:15 I *really* need a recipe which can show the diff between the result of a merge and each of the two ancestors, so that I can triple check a manual merge, cause it seems that double-checking during the merge it wasn't good enough. Aug 01 17:13:24 rwhitby: personally, I'd be glad if you could send a short analysis of what happened and how to avoid it to oe@ Aug 01 17:13:56 reenoo_: the trouble is that I don't know how it happened, other than that it must have been PEBKAC. Aug 01 17:14:11 But I will send the message. Aug 01 17:14:14 rwhitby: ah, too bad Aug 01 17:14:51 pb_: at least that doesn't break anything here Aug 01 17:15:05 JustinP: does that work for you as well? Aug 01 17:15:33 reenoo_: Adding CPPFLAGS = "" to the bb file? Trying that now. Aug 01 17:15:53 yep, seems to work fine Aug 01 17:17:07 compiles and packages fine Aug 01 17:17:17 now what was I trying to compile that that had broken... Aug 01 17:18:08 JustinP: ok, I'll check that in then Aug 01 17:18:14 ~praise pb_ Aug 01 17:18:15 All hail pb_! Aug 01 17:18:47 ah...gpe-mini-browser Aug 01 17:19:00 reenoo_: shall I close the bug or will you? Aug 01 17:19:47 I'll take care of that once I've checked in the fix Aug 01 17:21:55 ok Aug 01 17:25:54 reenoo_: heh Aug 01 17:35:33 reenoo_: email sent to oe@ Aug 01 17:38:28 rwhitby: thanks. maybe that will help me understand monotone's merging weirdness a bit better ;) Aug 01 17:38:51 reenoo_: didn't help me :-( Aug 01 17:44:36 I sent an response with my solution Aug 01 17:45:44 JustinP: thx Aug 01 17:47:56 rwhitby: np. AFAIK as long as there are no possible criss-cross problems it should work...and since you're explicitly propagating it seems ok to me....Of course I could be wrong... Aug 01 17:49:14 I will try and work on a makefile target for our nslu2-linux master makefile which we can use to do a diff after the propagate to triple-check. Aug 01 17:49:42 ok Aug 01 17:49:48 (master makefile?) Aug 01 17:53:12 JustinP: www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile - allows people starting nslu2-linux development to say "mkdir -p /home/slug ; cd /home/slug ; wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile ; make setup ; make build" and everything gets set up and built. Aug 01 17:53:37 it also has all our monotone convenience targets in it, so we are all using it in the same way across the project. Aug 01 17:54:12 something strange is going on in nonworking/lftp - I got a curious situation where, despite still being in non-working, it has had internal changes on both the .dev and the .nslu2-linux branch I merged both changes into the file. Aug 01 17:55:14 * rwhitby-away heads off now ... I've done enough damage for one day. Aug 01 17:55:29 heh Aug 01 18:23:46 'night all Aug 01 19:30:05 is vanille down? Aug 01 19:30:16 I get ping, but mtn doesn't seem to respond Aug 01 19:36:26 now it appears to have awakened Aug 01 19:46:17 * NAiL notices CIA is quiet Aug 01 20:17:45 night Aug 01 21:48:52 "I have no gate key." Aug 01 21:48:56 "Fezzik, rip his arms off." Aug 01 21:49:02 "Oh, you mean _this_ gate key." Aug 01 22:52:26 kergoth: "Anyone want a peanut?" Aug 01 22:52:59 princess bride quote? Aug 01 22:57:15 hi all! Aug 01 23:03:17 hi Aug 01 23:03:33 i can't find #openzaurs so i am here Aug 01 23:04:13 it is posible to rsync [for begin] OZ feed? Aug 01 23:04:55 i want to put OZ in mirrow in Poland Aug 01 23:05:46 s/mirrow/mirror Aug 01 23:08:45 mickey|TV: ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 01 23:59:56 2005