**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 02 23:59:56 2005 Aug 03 00:03:05 well, you can probably install meld or xxdiff too Aug 03 00:05:39 hello all Aug 03 00:06:24 just updated bitbake and monotone but am confused by org.openembedded.* branches Aug 03 00:06:59 dev? dreambox? nslu2-linux? what are they? Aug 03 00:09:46 dev is OE, dreambox and nslu2 are branches of the OE tree for distributions Aug 03 00:11:03 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rc009d36a... 10/packages/meta/ucslugc-packages.bb: Add new packages bb for ucslugc Aug 03 00:13:00 thanks, are there any others? is there a list or some doco to read? Aug 03 00:14:28 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r0241e7bd... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Aug 03 00:14:28 Put the non-linux (uclibc) excluded packages back into the main lists now Aug 03 00:14:28 ucslugc has a separate packages file. Aug 03 00:26:51 Richard48: openembedded.org's wiki has a lot of info Aug 03 00:30:27 yes, i've reread the whole thing again but still can't find anything on branches Aug 03 00:30:46 i've seen it mentioned on the oe mailing list Aug 03 00:37:49 keturn: right, but at least I can hack into my little problems now;) Aug 03 00:38:10 * france is away: Away Aug 03 00:42:42 morning Aug 03 00:48:14 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r9b92b607... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add openslug-native-packages.conf and .bb, and update openslug-native.conf to work with them Aug 03 00:51:15 JustinP: I've managed to boot a loop-image off my "HDD", I'll msg you when I get back from work Aug 03 00:57:48 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rd3c13ccb... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native-packages.conf: OK, might be an idead to add meta to the bbfiles for openslug-native... Aug 03 01:07:31 morning Aug 03 01:07:39 morning Aug 03 01:08:36 hi XorA BigAl Aug 03 01:19:01 morning all Aug 03 01:19:46 hi RP Aug 03 01:25:53 Congratulations guys! Aug 03 01:28:17 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ref346e4f... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-rc3-mm3.bb: linux-oz-2.6: fix 2.6.13-rc3-mm3 so it doesn't crash. Start the process of desharping corgi sound Aug 03 01:28:21 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rd7476af0... 10/packages/samba/samba_3.0.14a.bb: Added CONFFILES Aug 03 01:29:20 ~hail RP Aug 03 01:29:20 * ibot bows down to RP and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 03 01:30:45 XorA: Just don't tell anyone I've broken the repo ;-) Aug 03 01:31:07 RP: a desharped sound with working DMA is going to rule Aug 03 01:31:46 XorA: So far I've just made it use the kernel I2C driver and started work on a generic wm8731 driver Aug 03 01:33:18 Well, I say "just". It took me quite a while just to manage that. The driver is a lot cleaner for it though and will help the move to ALSA whenever we make it Aug 03 01:33:53 I think I've merged the rouge heads. Two people commiting at once does seem to confuse it... Aug 03 01:36:15 odd Aug 03 01:36:42 RP: how about hostap? Aug 03 01:37:31 hrw|work: That remains untested - I wanted to make the kernel work first... Aug 03 01:37:54 sure Aug 03 01:38:01 NAiL: It was my fault for getting some commands in the wrong order I suspect. Don't look at the sate stamps ;-) Aug 03 01:38:23 RP: haha ;) Aug 03 01:39:17 I've created a fair share of heads myself :-) Aug 03 01:41:58 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r7a7b09b4... 10/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/c7x0/keymap-2.6.map initscripts_1.0.bb): initscripts: update from hrw for broken c7x0 keymap. Aug 03 01:56:52 morning koen Aug 03 01:57:19 morning all Aug 03 01:57:19 hey ade|desk Aug 03 01:57:23 good morning all Aug 03 01:58:35 Good morning!!! Aug 03 02:02:26 hi koen Twiun ade|desk Aug 03 02:18:50 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8c796a68... 10/packages/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Aug 03 02:18:51 add crimsonfields, a popular tactical war game in the tradition of Battle Isle Aug 03 02:18:51 NOTE: this was pretty complex and annoying as I had to add a native libsdl and Aug 03 02:18:51 a native libsdl-ttf as well as a native version of the crimsonfields tools :/ Aug 03 02:18:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r60a3f387... 10/classes/xfce.bbclass: xfce.bbclass: remove per-package things - this is not what a bbclass is for Aug 03 02:18:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7ab1b01c... 10/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): slight fixes to libsdl-native and crimsonfields Aug 03 02:19:14 mickeyl: *hust* *hust* you're supposed to... Aug 03 02:19:33 mickeyl: write PhD, not play games... Aug 03 02:20:18 this is the time of increased creativity, I can tell :) Aug 03 02:21:14 Hmm - OpenSlug and Unslung have dropped off the Tinderbox. I wonder if that's punishment for my reverting the bbclass patch the other day ... ;-) Aug 03 02:21:28 during studies I played a lot of Angband before exams... Aug 03 02:22:04 rwhitby: sure ;) Aug 03 02:23:08 rwhitby: make sure you're tinderclient.bbclass is okay Aug 03 02:27:27 how do you report the revision of a file in your working dir with monotone? Aug 03 02:28:19 dunno Aug 03 02:28:23 look into the file Aug 03 02:29:52 zecke: slug@nudi:~/openembedded$ monotone identify classes/tinderclient.bbclass Aug 03 02:29:52 6f537dab213f85b8e27126e37a027ee6f81bf3c6 Aug 03 02:30:03 does that match yours ? Aug 03 02:30:26 dunno ;) Aug 03 02:30:30 I'm not good at numbers Aug 03 02:30:45 run "monotone identify classes/tinderclient.bbclass" Aug 03 02:34:56 what's the easiest way to control what ends up in the ipkg Source: field Aug 03 02:34:59 ? Aug 03 02:35:24 I'd like it to point it to my favourite source mirror Aug 03 02:48:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcb7c16aa... 10/classes/sourcepkg.bbclass: Aug 03 02:48:40 Add sourcepkg.bbclass, a crude way to tar up the patched sources into DL_DIR/sourcepkg and md5sums the result. do INHERIT += "sourcepkg" to get all of this goodness. Aug 03 02:48:40 Now I need to find out how to override the Source: field to make it point to said tarballs on your distro's source mirror Aug 03 02:58:26 ARGH... Aug 03 02:58:38 ~kill kde^H^Hwallet devels Aug 03 02:58:38 * ibot shoots a fluxmeson gun at kde^H^Hwallet devels Aug 03 03:00:03 hmm, I just had crazy thought about clamshells, because mmc driver is in kernel command line could be changed to root=/dev/mmcblck0p1 and you could boot one from mmc Aug 03 03:01:59 sounds like it should work Aug 03 03:02:22 too bad it needs a recompiled kernel to circumvent the bootloader Aug 03 03:17:38 hi all Aug 03 03:18:11 hey bluelightning Aug 03 03:29:41 hi Aug 03 03:30:30 I have a little question: the xserver-xorg package. how does bitbake know to include usr/bin/X and usr/bin/Xorg? its not specified in the FILES_${PN} Aug 03 03:30:57 /usr/bin is in $FILES by default Aug 03 03:31:32 aah. so it includes everything that is in /usr/bin/ as default. great, thanks. Aug 03 03:37:11 ~lart firefox for building problem Aug 03 03:37:11 * ibot pours gasoline all over firefox, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze for building problem Aug 03 03:39:30 hi koen Aug 03 03:54:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re674c65f... 10/packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_cvs.bb: Add cvs version of gpe-mini-browser, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = -1 Aug 03 04:00:51 morning Aug 03 04:01:13 hi reenoo_ Aug 03 04:01:34 hey RP Aug 03 04:21:38 XorA: could you be a bit more specific about "gpe-mini-browser: will not display gifs with csl compiler"? is that limited to gpe-mini-browser or is it rather that you compiled all libs with a non-csl gcc as well? Aug 03 04:22:14 hmmm, anyone know what the going price for a cisco 2500 would be these days? Aug 03 04:22:26 reenoo_: sorry, I compiled whole system with non csl compiler Aug 03 04:22:54 XorA: np. just checking Aug 03 04:28:21 XorA: thanks for adding that to the bug report Aug 03 04:32:33 anyone know why I getting server errors when I do a tinderbox build? Aug 03 04:44:58 Twiun: buying or selling 2500 ? Aug 03 04:48:19 ade|desk: buying ;) Aug 03 04:57:48 lol, we are just about to throw out 2 2500 in about two weeks infact Aug 03 04:58:43 Crofton|laptop: server error? who is printing that? Aug 03 04:59:00 bitbake Aug 03 04:59:00 Twiun: looking at ebay : ~100usd Aug 03 04:59:18 Crofton|laptop: pastebin the output somewhere Aug 03 05:00:00 ok, need to make it again Aug 03 05:00:19 basicallly apache error when trying to talk to the tinderbox machine Aug 03 05:00:41 I'll pastebin in a few minutes, scrolled it out of the buffer Aug 03 05:01:23 Twiun: 3600s are still rather expensive, getting rid of 2 of those too Aug 03 05:01:25 Crofton|laptop: I wonder why you get an output anyway Aug 03 05:01:45 CoreDump|afk: it is normal to see internal server error but the report should not be printed somewhere Aug 03 05:01:47 yeah, I'm not sure, maybe it is just the updates that fail? Aug 03 05:03:52 http://pastebin.ca/19181 Aug 03 05:03:59 zecke, there is the error Aug 03 05:06:54 tinderbox: starttime: 08/02/2005 23:07:09 Aug 03 05:06:58 tinderbox: timenow: 08/03/2005 14:01:01 Aug 03 05:07:02 and I pushed crap Aug 03 05:07:24 Crofton|laptop: could you grep bin/bitbake for BUILDSTART? Aug 03 05:08:23 koen: ping? Aug 03 05:08:25 bb.data.setVar("BUILDSTART", time.strftime('%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S',time.gmtime()),self.configuration.data) Aug 03 05:08:39 zecke: pong Aug 03 05:08:49 koen: could you restart vanille's monotone Aug 03 05:09:00 Crofton|laptop: wipe out tmp/cache before each build Aug 03 05:09:06 I udpdated bitbake yesterday Aug 03 05:09:07 Crofton|laptop: I'm unmessing the rest... Aug 03 05:09:16 hmmm, required for each tinderbox build? Aug 03 05:09:30 Crofton|laptop: a) the noise is an accidental push Aug 03 05:09:32 zecke: done Aug 03 05:09:46 Crofton|laptop: b) BUILDSTART does not get updatet (bitbake bug...) Aug 03 05:09:53 ok Aug 03 05:10:19 I am assuming there is one variable I can turn of the tinderbox stuff with? Aug 03 05:10:36 (for future reference) Aug 03 05:10:44 the inherit Aug 03 05:10:49 Crofton|laptop: the INHERIT += tinderclient controls it Aug 03 05:10:49 ok Aug 03 05:11:02 comment it out and leave the other settings Aug 03 05:11:57 ok tmp nuked and bitabking away Aug 03 05:13:21 +n ? Aug 03 05:13:26 Crofton|laptop: tmp/cache ;) Aug 03 05:13:32 Crofton|laptop: not complete tmp Aug 03 05:13:48 Overkill I know Aug 03 05:14:10 I want to see what a complete build to failure look like in tinderbox Aug 03 05:14:16 and I have time now Aug 03 05:16:51 ade|desk: cool, I might get mine for just under 50GBP Aug 03 05:17:08 ade|desk: thinking of building myself a small test network :) Aug 03 05:19:21 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rea275d1f... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Aug 03 05:19:21 openembedded/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Aug 03 05:19:21 -Do not print that stuff... It was not meant to be pushed Aug 03 05:27:25 hmmm, still getting the errors zecke Aug 03 05:27:48 ERRORS == no error Aug 03 05:27:59 Crofton|laptop: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/OpenEmbeddedBuild/status.html Aug 03 05:28:08 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r0c222bfe... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: tinderclient.bbclass remove even more debugging stuff Aug 03 05:28:26 yes, but I am getting the internal server errors at this end Aug 03 05:29:12 Crofton|laptop: yeah these are no errors Aug 03 05:29:17 Crofton|laptop: this is what the server said Aug 03 05:29:41 will they go away if I update bitbake? Aug 03 05:30:03 read above, I think I said everything needed Aug 03 05:30:21 * koen starts a new tinderbuild Aug 03 05:36:41 Crofton|laptop: no they won't go away with a newer bitbake Aug 03 05:36:47 bitbake just executes stuff Aug 03 05:36:53 yeah, I figured that out Aug 03 05:37:20 Crofton|laptop: it is what the server says on your post Aug 03 05:37:53 Crofton|laptop: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/cgi-bin//gunzip.cgi?tree=OpenEmbeddedBuild&full-log=1123072268.32585 Aug 03 05:41:27 Crofton|laptop: and the errors sneaked in while manually reverting and accidently revert to tinderclient.bbclass Aug 03 05:43:04 So monotone pull will clear the noise? Aug 03 05:45:12 Crofton|laptop: it could happen Aug 03 05:53:21 I'll know in a while :) Aug 03 05:53:30 hrw|work: Which was the last known working hostap+kernel combination? Aug 03 05:54:01 RP: 2.6.12-mmX where X is latest Aug 03 05:57:22 XorA: Ok, thanks. Aug 03 05:57:37 RP: it broke when you moved 2.6.12 to 2.6.13 Aug 03 05:58:41 It'll be the pcmcia changes. I wonder what's wrong with it? :-/ Aug 03 06:02:01 2.6.12-mm1 Aug 03 06:07:20 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rc596ce00... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Move iperf to nonworking Aug 03 06:11:28 hi all Aug 03 06:11:44 hey startoe Aug 03 06:12:11 I have compiled an image --"bitbake bootstrap-image". what do I do from here Aug 03 06:12:23 use it Aug 03 06:12:29 what hardware? Aug 03 06:12:32 I am planning to install this image to a x86 mahcine Aug 03 06:12:38 monotone.vanille.de died? Aug 03 06:12:42 with IDE harddrive Aug 03 06:13:14 hrw|work: no?! Aug 03 06:13:15 just a VIA c3 board Aug 03 06:13:34 monotone.vanille.de sometimes does die Aug 03 06:14:02 yeah Aug 03 06:14:03 startoe: use it as initrd? Aug 03 06:14:07 do I need install bootloader to my target harddrive first? Aug 03 06:14:17 what we need is a remotely-controllable siren in mickey's office so that he can be alerted to restart the server Aug 03 06:14:25 hrw|work: what do you mean by initrd? Aug 03 06:14:32 try monotone now Aug 03 06:14:40 pb_: or a monty python style boot Aug 03 06:14:46 s/monotone/vanille.de/ now Aug 03 06:14:47 webpage with click here when monotone dies :) Aug 03 06:15:00 XorA: that would work too Aug 03 06:15:36 ew have enough backup server to cope with an outtage Aug 03 06:15:44 servers* Aug 03 06:15:51 synced Aug 03 06:15:55 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4c848bbd... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added uinput and keybdev modules into collie kernel to allow usage of kbdd Aug 03 06:16:12 ah, finally Aug 03 06:16:13 while true ; do echo 'pass' | monotone serve ... ; done Aug 03 06:16:22 what do I do with "bootstrap-image-x86-20050803085050.rootfs.ext2.gz" ? Aug 03 06:16:50 startoe: gunzip it and dd it to a partition? Aug 03 06:16:56 startoe: try mounting it loopback? Aug 03 06:17:06 koen: finally modules? Aug 03 06:17:12 hrw|work: yes Aug 03 06:17:23 "screw you IRK modders!" Aug 03 06:17:48 ;) Aug 03 06:18:16 hmm.. I changed kernel CMDLINE in defconfig - it is overwritten anyway Aug 03 06:18:31 hrw|work: yes in run.do_compile Aug 03 06:20:03 hrw|work: but kbdd is fluff because it doesn't use the framebuffer Aug 03 06:20:16 zecke: yep Aug 03 06:20:33 it is fluff because it uses uinput Aug 03 06:20:44 the world needs per device keymaps Aug 03 06:20:48 poodle config first need update Aug 03 06:20:56 or at least do it like FreeBSD ;) Aug 03 06:21:00 which is bloat because you can't compile it against qpe Aug 03 06:23:51 OT: I find it amusing Cisco leaked its passwords Aug 03 06:24:05 I am stuck in installing image into target machine. Can anyone give me a pointer where I can find information from? Aug 03 06:24:15 cheers Aug 03 06:24:30 startoe: hehe you built for x86? your target is just an ordinary hard drive? Aug 03 06:24:45 yes, zecke. just for my first test Aug 03 06:25:28 startoe: gunzip Aug 03 06:25:30 I will move to real embedded target once I pass my first test Aug 03 06:25:44 startoe: mount -oloop image /mnt Aug 03 06:25:47 hi zecke Aug 03 06:25:57 startoe: and inspect it... Aug 03 06:25:57 okay I gunzip the image into a .rootfs.ext2 file Aug 03 06:26:12 startoe: then you chould chroot into it and 'boot' it Aug 03 06:26:27 startoe: man chroot (or man:/chroot if you have a fancy gui) Aug 03 06:26:42 * zecke gets an iBook and a SHARK Aug 03 06:28:11 zecke: a shark board? Aug 03 06:28:19 like the devcluster has? Aug 03 06:28:27 koen: I hope mine has a case as well Aug 03 06:28:33 zecke: thanks man Aug 03 06:28:41 koen: right, from an ex DEC employee Aug 03 06:28:56 nice Aug 03 06:29:01 koen: maybe I can hook it somehwere at the UNI and do native oe builds ;) Aug 03 06:29:10 :) Aug 03 06:29:11 zecke: when you said 'boot it', did you mean reboot the target machine? Aug 03 06:29:32 zecke: don't I need bootloader like lilo? Aug 03 06:29:33 startoe: so when you chroot you can say what command to execute Aug 03 06:29:57 startoe: you would just run /sbin/init or similiar in your mounted file Aug 03 06:31:54 okay Aug 03 06:40:52 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd1c335ba... 10/packages/linux/openzaurus-pxa-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix20031107/defconfig-poodle: regenerated poodle defconfig for 2.4.18 - no changes applied Aug 03 06:40:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r160027e4... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added uinput and keybdev modules into poodle kernel to allow usage of kbdd Aug 03 06:48:30 mickeyl: you have mail Aug 03 06:51:27 zecke: I just did that all how do I 'boot' it ? Aug 03 06:52:27 zecke, build look smuch cleaner now, thanks Aug 03 06:52:55 startoe: man chroot? Aug 03 06:53:21 yes, I did that and can execute command in /mnt as newroot Aug 03 06:54:53 startoe: ah real booting? Aug 03 06:55:08 yes Aug 03 06:55:09 startoe: hard to tell? do you've a spare disk? Aug 03 06:55:27 yes, I do have a spare machine and hard disk ready Aug 03 06:55:47 dd your image onto the disk Aug 03 06:56:03 and setup grub/lilo to boot your kernel?! Aug 03 06:57:08 okay Aug 03 06:57:12 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rad0c48af... 10/packages/perl/perl-5.8.7/ (config.sh-i386-linux config.sh-i686-linux): Add missing defines for the i386 and i686 config.sh Aug 03 06:57:16 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r70145dfc... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: Oh right, bump the PR... Aug 03 06:59:33 thanks zecke, you gave me a good start Aug 03 07:02:03 zecke: I just "man dd", what is the command options I should use? Aug 03 07:04:04 dd if=inputfile of=target Aug 03 07:04:12 that should do it Aug 03 07:04:21 but as always: make backups Aug 03 07:04:45 cheers, koen Aug 03 07:08:41 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rf4ec4ad7... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native.conf: Add ipkg-native to ASSUME_PROVIDED on openslug-native Aug 03 07:42:46 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r4fe48134... 10/packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_0.80.bb: New release of gpe-login. Aug 03 07:44:15 XorA, hrw|work: hostap with 2.6.13-rc1-mm1 works which helps narrow this down a bit Aug 03 07:47:51 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r0ef23827... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native.conf: Let openslug-native build ipkg-utils-native, for use in packaging. Aug 03 07:47:55 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r391914d1... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native.conf: Removed ipkg-utils-native from openslug-native.conf Aug 03 07:48:21 RP: good work Aug 03 07:49:36 RP: what card you have? Aug 03 07:49:50 The latest -mm actually containts a copy of hostap heading for mainline. Its just a shame its broken in the same way... Aug 03 07:50:03 hrw|work: A Buffalo one Aug 03 07:53:09 RP: so hostap want to be in mainline? Aug 03 07:53:37 hrw|work: Yes, its one of the aims - to get a coherent set of wireless drivers in the kernel Aug 03 07:54:00 orinoco is already in and getting updated regularly (I think) Aug 03 07:54:16 nice Aug 03 07:55:05 btw - we should consider switching modules naming to debian style.. hostap-modules-cs-2.6.12-mm1_0.3.9-r1_c7x0.ipk Aug 03 07:55:30 That would be sensible IMO Aug 03 07:55:30 easier when trying different kernels Aug 03 07:55:41 Yes, much easier Aug 03 07:56:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1761746a... 10/packages/qt/qt-x11-free_3.3.3.bb: qt-x11-free-3.3.3: build assistant, designer, qtconfig, and qvfb Aug 03 07:57:14 hrw|work: Did you see mickeyl's comment about the revert? Aug 03 08:00:29 blah, why is only BlueTooth card available in UK a belkin :-( Aug 03 08:01:35 eh? there are loads of bluetooth cards available in the UK Aug 03 08:02:38 pb_: if you got good sources please tell, all the places I normally get stuff seem to only have belkins or nothing, BTW I mean CF cards Aug 03 08:02:51 dunno. did you try expansys? Aug 03 08:03:32 RP: which comment? Aug 03 08:03:35 XorA: did you check oesf forums? I got my bluetooth card from a guy there (speculatrix?) Aug 03 08:03:48 and he is in the uk Aug 03 08:04:12 Bernardo: he got that card from ebay where someone was selling lot of socker rev E cards Aug 03 08:04:35 XorA: avoid nokia based cards like socket rev E (driver: dtl1_cs) Aug 03 08:05:00 yep, mine's a rev E Aug 03 08:05:36 Bernardo: and it does not have suspend/resume support ;( Aug 03 08:05:37 heh Aug 03 08:05:42 'openSuSE' Aug 03 08:06:02 no, it doesn't... :( But a remove - insert works Aug 03 08:06:06 RP: do you have it somewhere? Aug 03 08:06:45 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r8136cf12... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add python-crypt to openslug-native.bb needed for ipkg-make-index Aug 03 08:06:49 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rdd81e6f6... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native-packages.conf: Added ipkg-utils to openslug-native-packages.conf Aug 03 08:06:53 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rbc169bc1... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add libtool, pkgconfig and quilt to openslug-native.bb Aug 03 08:07:17 hrw|work: It was via email - he wanted you to change the CONFIG_CMDLINE back to what it was before your checkin Aug 03 08:07:28 ah Aug 03 08:07:35 I dont have email now - server died Aug 03 08:08:08 >-CONFIG_CMDLINE="See OE File" Aug 03 08:08:08 >> +CONFIG_CMDLINE="console=ttyS0 root=/dev/mtdblock4 rootfstype=jffs2 jffs2_orphaned_inodes=delete mem=64M" Aug 03 08:08:11 Please revert this part of the diff. Aug 03 08:08:18 from mickeyl Aug 03 08:08:23 ok Aug 03 08:08:30 koen: beat me to it :) Aug 03 08:09:03 * RP puts any old thing in the defconfig for c7x0 2.6 :-/ Aug 03 08:10:17 reverting Aug 03 08:10:36 The hostap problem is between 2.6.13-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.13-rc2-mm1 Aug 03 08:12:46 and orinoco-modules are broken in with the utsname problem in the same way as hostap... Aug 03 08:13:23 noone submitted our utsname.patch? Aug 03 08:14:00 There is no patch for orinoco? or is it in bugzilla? Aug 03 08:14:19 I'm talking about hostap one Aug 03 08:14:25 anyway Aug 03 08:14:32 Ah, I don't know about that... Aug 03 08:16:00 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd4d1f1f3... 10/packages/linux/openzaurus-sa-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix20030509/defconfig-collie: revert CMDLINE in collie defconfig to note Aug 03 08:25:20 hmm.. anyone happen to know what up with oenote? the output ends up in the log instead of on the console... Aug 03 08:59:14 who want to add http://trifinite.org/trifinite_stuff_carwhisperer.html to OE? Aug 03 08:59:20 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rdec105cc... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update u-a to remove the symlinks as well Aug 03 08:59:42 koen: :D Aug 03 09:01:10 do you know if it will allow one to "hijack" a prius? Aug 03 09:01:30 last I heard the prius was pretty secured Aug 03 09:01:48 but unencrypted audio is easy enough to snoop Aug 03 09:05:11 I really want a prius, but it's way too expensive here in pt... Aug 03 09:06:46 * koen still hasn't got a car Aug 03 09:08:26 * Bernardo has a cherokee - but it burns 13 liters/100Km diesel and has cost over 2500 eur in maintenance this year already... Aug 03 09:10:35 * RP has an MGB without an MOT at the moment. It has a slight rust problem ;-) Aug 03 09:11:05 http://www.rpsys.net/tmp/ :) Aug 03 09:11:16 A lot worse looking than it is ;-) Aug 03 09:11:37 RP: heh, I guess a "slight" rust problem is pretty unusual for an MGB Aug 03 09:12:00 pb_: indeed Aug 03 09:12:34 Just need to find time to weld the new panel in... Aug 03 09:13:00 A job I'm putting off, mainly as I hate setting fire to myself... Aug 03 09:13:30 MOT? Aug 03 09:13:50 I thought they were built with rust. Aug 03 09:14:08 Bernardo: annual roadworthiness certificate Aug 03 09:14:54 ah. Here we have bi-anual exams Aug 03 09:15:03 the first when the car is 4 years old Aug 03 09:15:19 yeah, I think ours start at 3 or 4. Aug 03 09:15:26 I've never owned a car new enough to not need one, though. Aug 03 09:15:30 its 3 Aug 03 09:17:31 :) I'm old enough to have been able to buy a new car with a programmer's income... Aug 03 09:18:02 I think bi-anual exams would keep the MG off the road for most of the year... Aug 03 09:18:30 Even once I've fixed the sill, I think they might be a bit dubious about its brakes :-/ Aug 03 09:18:40 I meant once every two years Aug 03 09:18:55 sorry for my bad english Aug 03 09:19:30 Bernardo: Ah, that would be better for me then :) Aug 03 09:19:45 Yay, hostap running with 2.6.13-rc3-mm3 :) Aug 03 09:21:12 cool Aug 03 09:22:45 Bernardo: ah, the word you wanted was "biennial". Aug 03 09:23:19 pb_: thanks. I'll try to remember that next time. :) Aug 03 09:35:48 anyone know what provides qtapplication.h ? Aug 03 09:50:22 emte: packages.debian.org Aug 03 09:52:59 bye Aug 03 10:02:37 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rb4b0bf82... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native-packages.bb: Add a few packages to test with Aug 03 10:05:46 I love that cryptic commit logs ;) Aug 03 10:06:06 :) Aug 03 10:06:42 DaKa2: let me guess: pine, courier-imapd and umbaumba 17.3? Aug 03 10:07:26 hehe, no.. just added gzip and vlan, two really simple packages into the openslug-native-packages.bb meta-package, to test automatic native compilation Aug 03 10:07:57 DaKa2: really? I'm disapointed... Aug 03 10:08:02 bleh Aug 03 10:08:27 python's string.replace() doesn't grok regular expressions Aug 03 10:08:35 ~lart python Aug 03 10:08:35 * ibot burns python to a crisp with a laser Aug 03 10:08:47 hrw|busy: why? oh well, should probably add something harder for the little slug to compile Aug 03 10:09:00 :) Aug 03 10:09:07 DaKa2: ;P Aug 03 10:09:47 CoreDump|afk: let me know where I can get it from and I'll test it. If you have a monotone diff I'll just apply it to my local copy. Aug 03 10:10:05 I currently dont know of any packages that need native compilation... maybe should test with iperf, someone was having problems crossing that... Aug 03 10:12:16 and i just found that doing a monotone pull on the slug with 5+ revs in is not a very good idea Aug 03 10:12:49 DaKa2: using netsync on slug is probably not a good idea at all :) Aug 03 10:13:24 but atleast you have 'local' storage - here on wrt54gs I have only 8M of flash (dont plan to add sdcard mod) Aug 03 10:13:38 hrw|busy: yep... in the future I will just rm monotone/*.db && make setup (and that fetches an initial db) Aug 03 10:13:50 52M.. Aug 03 10:14:09 well, my slug runs of nfs so.. no local storage :) Aug 03 10:21:24 koen, doesnt help Aug 03 10:21:45 koen, trying to install pikdev but i cant because its missing parts of qt3 Aug 03 10:22:25 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * re464450f... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Remove iperf since it was moved to nonworking Aug 03 10:24:09 mickeyl: current spitz kernel is still broken. Have you tested it? I pulled/compiled yesterday.= and I have not made any local patches to the kernel stuff... Aug 03 10:24:49 Anybody care to commit a simple fix for me? Mickeyl added lineak to OE a little while ago but changed the name so ti needs an S override. It's in the bug at the end: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152 Aug 03 10:29:54 RP: congrats Aug 03 11:04:23 install: cannot stat `/oe/build/tmp/work/initscripts-1.0-r53/alignment.sh': No such file or directory Aug 03 11:04:30 is it somthing known? Aug 03 11:05:04 I suspect you bitbake is too old Aug 03 11:05:12 ok Aug 03 11:06:25 hi all Aug 03 11:06:38 * florian waits for Perl to explode again Aug 03 11:06:49 * koen braces for impact Aug 03 11:07:11 florian: :) Aug 03 11:08:58 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r5ced4279... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Fix the iperf patch, and move back from nonworking Aug 03 11:09:03 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rf5bd94b7... 10/packages/iperf/iperf_1.7.0.bb: Bump PR too... Aug 03 11:09:08 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r261daebc... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add iperf to openslug-packages Aug 03 11:09:48 DaKa2: Not too bad, it compiles now - but packaging fails: Aug 03 11:09:51 mv: cannot stat `/home/oe/build_netvista/work/perl-5.8.7-r11/image//usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/i386-linux/CORE/libperl.so': No such file or directory Aug 03 11:10:27 florian: ok.. do you have that file there, or did it end up somewhere else under /home/oe/build_netvista/work/perl-5.8.7-r11/image/ Aug 03 11:10:47 * florian looks Aug 03 11:11:38 dammit... Aug 03 11:11:42 my bad.. Aug 03 11:11:54 Right: /home/oe/build_netvista/work/perl-5.8.7-r11/image/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i386-linux/CORE/libperl.so Aug 03 11:12:09 yup.. the config.sh is still for 5.8.4... Aug 03 11:12:15 * DaKa2 updates Aug 03 11:12:23 ah i see... the version..- Aug 03 11:14:31 cu Aug 03 11:15:26 hey zecke_ Aug 03 11:15:30 kergoth: schurig: mickeyl : all: well done Aug 03 11:15:30 Now how to handle the prices? Aug 03 11:15:38 I'm for either send the gadgets to me Aug 03 11:15:46 or treat them as project devices Aug 03 11:16:00 and lend them to people that want to do stuff (three month lending period) Aug 03 11:16:09 let's send the tosa to a kernel-dev Aug 03 11:16:15 I do not want to see anyone taking these devices and doing nothing with it Aug 03 11:17:02 koen: key is 'send' not give ;) Aug 03 11:17:24 florian: I've commited a fix for that now, but its in the nslu2 monotone Aug 03 11:18:13 koen: do we want to tackle bugzilla integration now? Aug 03 11:18:18 DaKa2: okay... i'll wait for it :-) Not that i get bored without Perl ;-) Aug 03 11:18:32 :) Aug 03 11:19:06 I should probably try to clean up the mips config.sh too.. its from perl 5.8.3 :) Aug 03 11:19:15 anyone actually using mips? Aug 03 11:19:37 zecke_: bring it on Aug 03 11:19:40 * keturn wakes up. Aug 03 11:19:59 huh? mips? what? I have one of those. I don't know what config.sh you're talking about though. Aug 03 11:20:11 keturn: perl package Aug 03 11:20:24 oh, for perl. no, I don't build perl for it. Aug 03 11:20:31 heh Aug 03 11:20:38 I can see that.. Aug 03 11:20:40 yeah, the mipsel perl config script needs to be updated Aug 03 11:21:14 If I try and update it, can someone with a mipsel crossbuild try it? Aug 03 11:21:49 How about if I just sent mine to the mailing list? Aug 03 11:21:53 s/sent/send/ Aug 03 11:22:18 you have a working config.sh for perl on mipsel? send it to daka@thg.se then Aug 03 11:22:34 If I wasnt so lazy, I would get my monotone push stuff working Aug 03 11:22:37 but I fear it Aug 03 11:22:40 :) Aug 03 11:25:36 * florian loves mips! Aug 03 11:28:09 zecke_: what needs to be done for bugzilla integration Aug 03 11:28:32 ? Aug 03 11:28:38 CosmicPenguin: I'll push that for perl 5.8.4 and update it a bit for 5.8.7 and push that Aug 03 11:29:22 zecke_: and bugzilla doesn't send mail to tinderbox-oe by default Aug 03 11:32:55 Can someone post the tinderbox url here? Aug 03 11:33:07 ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/OpenEmbeddedBuild/status.html Aug 03 11:34:00 thanks Aug 03 11:34:01 "Amish in the city" sounds funny Aug 03 11:34:04 koen: it does send email on new mails? Aug 03 11:34:06 * koen tunes in Aug 03 11:34:23 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/cgi-bin//gunzip.cgi?tree=OpenEmbeddedBuild&full-log=1123078366.30620 Aug 03 11:34:51 Anyone know why I have the cannot compute suffix of object files problem around line 8000? Aug 03 11:37:10 zecke_: the log doesn't say so Aug 03 11:38:41 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r3cf58252... 10/packages/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl_2.1.19.bb: Do not remove user when removing package. Aug 03 11:38:45 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rcfaf08f1... 10/packages/postfix/postfix_2.0.20.bb: Do not remove user when removing package. Aug 03 11:38:49 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r6fb4978a... 10/packages/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd_2.2.12.bb: User update-rc bbclass instead of issuing commands in post_xx scripts. Aug 03 11:38:53 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r0e1ab5b1... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add autoconf to openslug-native Aug 03 11:38:56 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r815a46e9... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native-packages.conf: Only add the two files we need from packages/meta to BBFILES, parsing 50 files not needed on the slug is a waste of time :) Aug 03 11:40:15 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r0ec4e472... 10/packages/perl/perl-5.8.7/ (config.sh-i386-linux config.sh-i686-linux): Fix the i386 and i686 config.sh to use 5.8.7 instead of 5.8.4 in the paths Aug 03 11:40:19 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rda5ddeca... 10/packages/perl/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add updated config.sh-mipsel-linux for perl 5.8.4 from CosmicPenguin, and add a bit more updated one for perl 5.8.7 Aug 03 11:41:43 Crofton: no Aug 03 11:43:09 Crofton: what does config.log say? Aug 03 11:46:53 kergoth: ping re old wiki Aug 03 11:47:24 kergoth: Will you send us the dump before the stuff in there is *totally* outdated? Aug 03 11:48:03 Laibsch: the old stuff is totally outdatet and was spammed... Aug 03 11:48:27 heh Aug 03 11:48:31 and was chmodded by the hh.org admins Aug 03 11:48:32 yes, that is what I assume by now ;-) Aug 03 11:48:35 going to look at that ..... Aug 03 11:48:59 Laibsch: I'm sure you can get a tarball though Aug 03 11:49:09 Well, I can't. Aug 03 11:49:42 kergoth wanted to provide a dump so cbrake and I could export it to the new wiki. That was many moons ago ;-) Aug 03 11:50:01 france_: could you help Aug 03 11:50:02 NOTE: build 200508032030: completed Aug 03 11:50:02 Build statistics: Aug 03 11:50:02 Attempted builds: 4 Aug 03 11:50:04 argh Aug 03 11:50:05 sry Aug 03 11:50:17 I do not want it for me. Just want to get it done and over with so that the old wiki can be deleted. Aug 03 11:50:40 hmm, got this message error: bad value (arm926ej-s) for -mtune= switch Aug 03 11:51:07 zecke: france is set to away. Aug 03 11:51:34 well, france_ is not ;-) Aug 03 11:52:26 Laibsch: I can not change into the directory Aug 03 11:52:30 so we need to wait Aug 03 11:52:37 OK Aug 03 11:52:42 florian: perl 5.8.7r11 just got in, do you have the time to test it? Aug 03 11:52:59 A couple of minutes more will make no difference now, will they :-) Aug 03 11:53:14 I'm off to grab a bite to eat. Later. Aug 03 11:53:18 import datetime Aug 03 11:53:29 timedelta(minutes="more") Aug 03 11:56:10 Crofton: woops, looks like a revision got lost again Aug 03 11:57:12 :) Aug 03 11:57:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2e872456... 10/conf/machine/tune-arm926ejs.conf: Remove hyphen from arm926-j *again* Aug 03 11:57:34 heh Aug 03 11:57:38 thanks! Aug 03 11:58:13 * Crofton waits the age of the universe for monotone to update :) Aug 03 11:58:42 Crofton: this is the third time I had to open http://www.ip97.com/gcc/ARM-Options.html and check if I'm screwed it up again Aug 03 11:59:24 is that the standard gcc manual? Aug 03 11:59:37 no idea Aug 03 11:59:51 3 google hit for arm gcc and mtune :) Aug 03 11:59:56 3rd* Aug 03 12:00:06 ah Aug 03 12:01:51 DaKa2: okay... i'm on it Aug 03 12:03:54 * DaKa2 crosses his fingers Aug 03 12:04:18 "(this may take a while)..." Aug 03 12:04:38 :) Aug 03 12:04:47 * DaKa2 gets something to eat then Aug 03 12:04:56 * koen remembers "consistency check" Aug 03 12:09:58 good evening Aug 03 12:10:13 hey gremlin[it] Aug 03 12:10:46 hi koen :) Aug 03 12:25:26 does it make sense to push a mipsel config to the nslu2 repo? that distribution isn't remotely supported on mips, is it? Aug 03 12:26:29 it's one repo Aug 03 12:26:32 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r83403a57... 10/conf/machine/nokia770.conf: Add calibration tool for omap xserver. Aug 03 12:26:38 with different branches Aug 03 12:26:55 those get merged back and forth Aug 03 12:26:56 exactly, it gets propagated Aug 03 12:27:30 since I don't have access to the OE repo I upload the the nslu2 branch and that gets propagated to OE some time after Aug 03 12:28:06 NOTE: package initscripts-1.0-r53: task do_package: failed Aug 03 12:28:36 gints: you have the latest bitbake, OE and a clean cache? Aug 03 12:28:56 bitbake latest... OE yesterday... Aug 03 12:29:03 gints: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/OpenEmbeddedBuild/status.html proves a h3900 image works Aug 03 12:29:04 hi all Aug 03 12:29:12 hey CoreDump|home Aug 03 12:30:15 koen: it's about gpe-image Aug 03 12:30:27 I try opie-image Aug 03 12:30:32 so? Aug 03 12:30:38 initscripts are in both Aug 03 12:30:57 or are initscripts to bloated according to trolltech? Aug 03 12:31:01 ok.. will try pull OE and delete tmp Aug 03 12:32:30 ~lart spitz for its crappy flash size Aug 03 12:32:31 * ibot farts in spitz's general direction for its crappy flash size Aug 03 12:34:34 designed by sharp(TM) Aug 03 12:34:47 known for large battery life and connectivity Aug 03 12:34:49 *cough* Aug 03 12:35:52 *couch* *shudder* Aug 03 12:36:05 altboot support for this thing is a pain Aug 03 12:36:18 think of it as a big collie Aug 03 12:37:29 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r94d31b04... 10/classes/sourcepkg.bbclass: sourcepkg.bbclass: generate .orig.tar.gz and .diff.tar.gz. the latter also contains all extra files, the .bb and a showdata dump. output goes to $DEPLOY_DIR/source now. Aug 03 12:37:44 well, actually I don't think that collie ever was such a PITA than spitz is :) Aug 03 12:37:53 reenoo_: cool Aug 03 12:37:53 err.. that was supposed to be .diff.gz Aug 03 12:38:04 ~lart snafus in commit messages Aug 03 12:38:04 * ibot gives snafus in commit messages a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" Aug 03 12:39:32 I still have to add some checks to make it error out when there's stuff in $WORKDIR it doesn't catch Aug 03 12:40:12 reenoo_: a small error: Aug 03 12:40:12 + for i in ${EXCLUDE_FROM}; do Aug 03 12:40:12 + echo $i > temp/exclude-from-file Aug 03 12:40:14 + done Aug 03 12:40:22 $i >> file Aug 03 12:40:36 hmm. right Aug 03 12:40:40 * reenoo_ fixes Aug 03 12:44:08 reenoo_: That checkin sounds good... Aug 03 12:44:18 florian: :) Aug 03 12:44:34 brb Aug 03 12:44:40 florian: how is the perl going? Aug 03 12:44:44 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rf4993582... 10/classes/sourcepkg.bbclass: sourcepkg.bbclass: fix handling of EXCLUDE_FROM. thanks to koen for spotting. Aug 03 12:45:46 DaKa2: uh wait... Aug 03 12:53:56 anybody else here got a gumstix? Aug 03 12:54:25 no, but I'd like one :) Aug 03 12:55:59 NAiL, i have one for some time now but not had the time to use it, I have designed a RC chopper im gonna build when i get tme, and am gonna use the gumstix and me simpad + some pic hardware as the RC kit Aug 03 12:56:27 just wondered if anybody had got oe up on one Aug 03 12:56:44 neat Aug 03 12:57:18 well, there's traces of gumstix in oe atleast Aug 03 12:57:19 ./packages/linux/gumstix-2.6.5-gnalm1-gum0 Aug 03 12:57:19 ./packages/linux/gumstix_2.6.5-gnalm1-gum0.bb Aug 03 12:57:58 oh yeah!, i ahavnt checked oe out for some month now, thinking of doing so though, get me simpad updated Aug 03 12:58:28 koen: is it "ok" for me to be posting those spitz images to the tinderbox? I'm currently not running them all the time as this is someone else's box, but I figured it's still useful... Aug 03 12:58:50 JustinP: sure Aug 03 12:59:44 JustinP: regular builds would be better ;) Aug 03 12:59:44 just making sure Aug 03 12:59:57 "regular" meaning every day at the same time? Aug 03 13:00:18 re Aug 03 13:00:19 JustinP: always ;) you stopped you will start over again Aug 03 13:00:37 this is also my own testing/building system so I need the runtime sometimes Aug 03 13:00:51 well...yeah, I guess...but as I said this is someone else's machine and they use it for other things as well Aug 03 13:02:13 DaKa2: You have another file location problem in it: Aug 03 13:02:27 florian: dammit... Aug 03 13:02:38 DaKa2: The file is located in work/perl-5.8.7-r11/image/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i386-linux/CORE/libperl.so Aug 03 13:03:08 DaKa2: note the two different versions in the path, the install section is searching in the correct one: Aug 03 13:03:22 whaa? 5.8.4?? Aug 03 13:03:26 work/perl-5.8.7-r11/image//usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/i386-linux/CORE/libperl.so Aug 03 13:03:33 right Aug 03 13:04:45 DaKa2: btw, if you look at http://slugbug.nslu2-linux.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=185&pos=1 you'll see how I fixed the configure part. But the compile barfed. Mind closing the bug? Aug 03 13:04:54 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r1d87ab57... 10/packages/netpbm/ (3 files in 3 dirs): netpbm, compiles on glibc only (because it uses sinf) Aug 03 13:04:59 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r02948f94... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add netpbm and dependent graphics (and other) libraries. Aug 03 13:05:11 florian: if you look in packages/perl/perl-5.8.7/config.sh-i386-linux do you have any 5.8.4 there? Aug 03 13:05:58 NAiL: sure Aug 03 13:07:08 DaKa2: Trying apache now, btw. Wonder if it'll work Aug 03 13:07:59 NAiL: if we are lucky.. but... Aug 03 13:08:15 expat compiled. Working on openssl now. Aug 03 13:08:28 It's been compiling for... *some* time. Aug 03 13:08:44 :) Aug 03 13:09:19 what but? :) Aug 03 13:09:34 well... Aug 03 13:11:08 DaKa2: yes... a piel if them. Aug 03 13:11:14 eh pile Aug 03 13:11:29 florian: strange, because that was changes in my commit.. Aug 03 13:11:43 changed* Aug 03 13:12:39 hmm... but -r11 is the correct one? Aug 03 13:12:46 yes Aug 03 13:13:14 florian: --- ./../lib/SocketAddr.cpp.orig 2004-10-05 12:10:06.763746800 +0200 Aug 03 13:13:14 +++ ./../lib/SocketAddr.cpp 2004-10-05 12:10:21.079570464 +0200 Aug 03 13:13:16 dammit Aug 03 13:13:21 http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe-commits/current/0655.html Aug 03 13:14:38 atually... I forgot the PR.. again.. Aug 03 13:15:14 DaKa2: Trying to overtake my commits by "forgetting" PR's now? :-P Aug 03 13:15:41 NAiL: hehe, actually, I keep forgeting that when Im just updating patches Aug 03 13:15:45 DaKa2: ah okay... then it is still not merged upstream... Aug 03 13:15:49 phew Aug 03 13:16:28 hm.. how does things get merged between nslu2 and oe anyway? Aug 03 13:16:41 DaKa2: Automatically every so-and-so minutes Aug 03 13:16:49 and by a core dev merging manually Aug 03 13:16:57 ah.. Aug 03 13:18:45 NAiL: does the nslu2 box also sync the repos? Aug 03 13:18:46 of course, trying to merge now gives me a 3-way it can't resolve by itself Aug 03 13:18:53 is it merged when it shows up in here? Aug 03 13:19:34 merges and propagates don't show up Aug 03 13:19:41 only commits Aug 03 13:19:45 ah.. Aug 03 13:20:00 that explains alot Aug 03 13:21:04 argh Aug 03 13:21:08 I currently can't propagate org.openembedded.dev ->org.openembedded.nslu2-linux Aug 03 13:21:20 monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: revision.cc:255: invariant 'I(cs_left == cs_right)' violated Aug 03 13:21:23 jbowler-away: I'm trying, but there's a bunch of merges Aug 03 13:21:29 ugh.. I hope thats not my fault.. /me hides Aug 03 13:21:58 nah, I don't think you've done any changes to some kind of nokia 770-stuff Aug 03 13:22:09 hehe, no :) Aug 03 13:22:11 For some reason the ancestor is too far back - there needs to be a propagate nslu2-linux ->dev (in fact I think propagates should always be done both ways). Aug 03 13:22:36 bbiab Aug 03 13:24:29 bleh Aug 03 13:24:32 perl stuff diff Aug 03 13:24:52 NAiL: oh? Aug 03 13:25:12 yeah, but it's easy to see which is correct Aug 03 13:25:25 jbowler: specify an ancestor Aug 03 13:25:50 jbowler: if propagate fails, choose the last ancestor you propagated from (at least this is the way that I do it on my tree) Aug 03 13:25:54 and use explicit_merge Aug 03 13:26:20 monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: revision.cc:255: invariant 'I(cs_left == cs_right)' violated Aug 03 13:26:23 mrrrgh Aug 03 13:26:33 hehe Aug 03 13:26:37 I love that one Aug 03 13:26:41 NAiL: I repeat my call to use explicit_merge Aug 03 13:26:49 ~herring monotone Aug 03 13:26:49 * ibot whacks monotone on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred Aug 03 13:26:50 JustinP: uh... yeah.. how? Aug 03 13:28:05 JustinP: I'm trying to merge oe and nslu2-linux. How do I figure out the ancestor? Aug 03 13:28:16 NAiL: I suggest monotone-viz Aug 03 13:28:44 NAiL: when away from my server I use a vncserver and monotone-viz to view the graph Aug 03 13:28:50 JustinP: I'm remotely logged in, with 200 ping Aug 03 13:29:01 (and the dev box doesn't have X at all) Aug 03 13:29:07 NAiL: ok, I'll do it for you....let me pull Aug 03 13:29:39 im following the new getting started guide, .. i assume this is all sound on amd64 ? Aug 03 13:29:42 jeez, lots of revs today.... Aug 03 13:30:00 dan2003: My main dev box is an amd64 and it works fine Aug 03 13:30:09 ;) excelent Aug 03 13:30:26 in fact it works great, very nice and fast :-) Aug 03 13:31:31 there was this ... lib64 bug ;-) Aug 03 13:31:38 psco didnt emerge, died with som eerror, so ill do without it for now, emergeing monotone at the mo Aug 03 13:32:55 * koen updates the snapshot Aug 03 13:33:18 yeah, psycho isn't on my machine either Aug 03 13:34:26 snapshot updated Aug 03 13:34:43 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * ra4218d10... 10/packages/perl/ (perl-5.8.7/config.sh-mipsel-linux perl_5.8.7.bb): Actually include the correct mipsel 5.8.7 config.sh and bump PR Aug 03 13:38:19 ok, I got -viz up... Aug 03 13:41:16 Ciao all Aug 03 13:41:27 try this as the ancestor: e7146baad5e913b0fac1d878c064c233f2e6c2c3 Aug 03 13:41:35 might be the one it's currently using... Aug 03 13:44:57 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r265d2e9e... 10/packages/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd_2.2.12.bb: Remove start after install. Aug 03 13:47:48 zecke: where does oe_wiki snapshot reside on handhelds.org? Aug 03 13:48:05 re Aug 03 13:48:35 hrw: /home/oe/ was my guess Aug 03 13:48:46 hrw: someold called oe_wiki was not accessible by me though Aug 03 13:49:01 zecke_: you are not in proj_oe group Aug 03 13:49:16 france chmodded the old wiki Aug 03 13:49:25 afaik noone can access it Aug 03 13:51:12 I can mysqldump it Aug 03 13:51:53 so someone can import it and work on conversion to moinmoin Aug 03 13:54:57 JustinP: so, say mt explicit_merge your_ancestor org.openembedded.nslu2-linux ? Aug 03 13:55:46 explicit_merge r1 r2 ancestor Aug 03 13:56:03 what's r1 and r2? Aug 03 13:56:09 hmm Aug 03 13:56:21 all this happens in the master makefile of ours Aug 03 13:56:24 NAiL: the head revisions of the branches you want to propagate Aug 03 13:56:37 aha Aug 03 13:56:46 monotone explicit_merge nslu2_head_rev org_head_rev ancestor branch Aug 03 13:57:20 yeah Aug 03 13:58:21 well Aug 03 13:58:25 less merges this time around Aug 03 13:58:28 Is there some HowTo to program on Zaurus ?... Aug 03 13:58:32 but dunno if it'll actually work yet Aug 03 13:59:30 ok, instead of 20-something merges I got 6. But monotone still crashes in the end Aug 03 13:59:45 hrw: it was being over written by spammers Aug 03 13:59:53 hrw: it was not being maintained Aug 03 14:00:02 hrw: the spam was 7 to 12 levels deep per page Aug 03 14:00:16 hrw: all the usefull content was gone Aug 03 14:00:36 hrw: unless you wanted to buy drugs or porn. Aug 03 14:01:15 hrw: if you need something, I am sure we can arrange a snapshot for you, but it wont be pretty Aug 03 14:02:08 revision.cc:255: invariant 'I(cs_left == cs_right)' violated Aug 03 14:02:58 france_: I know that is was spam - someone asked here few hours ago for a snapshot Aug 03 14:03:48 it was Laibsch iirc Aug 03 14:03:53 right Aug 03 14:04:05 yes, it was me Aug 03 14:04:23 I had talked with kergoth about migrating the stuff to get rid of it. Aug 03 14:04:52 If you can get me a dump cbrake and I will move the stuff that is still valid into the new wiki step by step, Aug 03 14:05:47 NAiL: you can try this one: 6c249e86f20cab16da75a620e43f22520d6b1f7b Aug 03 14:06:06 hrw: Can you send me a dump? Aug 03 14:06:54 Laibsch: not now - I will go sleep soon Aug 03 14:06:59 hrw: Or better post a dump somewhere so I can download it? Aug 03 14:07:06 yeah, thats the revision of the last propagate... Aug 03 14:07:23 hrw: OK. Let me know whenever you are ready. Aug 03 14:07:37 JustinP: that seems ok Aug 03 14:08:09 yeah Aug 03 14:08:18 pushing to nslu2-linux right now Aug 03 14:08:30 pushing to vanille Aug 03 14:09:09 done Aug 03 14:09:30 great, so its merged now? Aug 03 14:09:35 yup Aug 03 14:09:47 florian: feel like trying perl again? :-) Aug 03 14:10:07 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r4d11572f... 10/ (23 files in 17 dirs): Aug 03 14:10:07 explicit_merge of f4993582a6bc13487c991548a98342ea6d084c2a Aug 03 14:10:07 and 7dcc40f11838a5d4253110fb45d10c0cd109a0ff Aug 03 14:10:07 using ancestor 6c249e86f20cab16da75a620e43f22520d6b1f7b Aug 03 14:10:07 to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' Aug 03 14:11:17 DaKa2: of course :-) Aug 03 14:11:25 you should get r12 now Aug 03 14:11:53 zecke_: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13966&st=0&p=90649&#entry90649 - changed kernel keymap patches for qt/e 2.3.10 for cxK zauruses Aug 03 14:12:24 refuse to apply till they are in bugzilla Aug 03 14:12:33 good point Aug 03 14:12:40 hrw: they're bsd licensed Aug 03 14:12:42 or mantis in this case Aug 03 14:12:46 hrw: he can do whatever he wants Aug 03 14:13:29 sure Aug 03 14:13:46 hrw: either he lines out his changes and sends in a diff Aug 03 14:13:50 I added question "can you add them into OE bugzilla?" anyway ;) Aug 03 14:14:34 hrw: you should have not pointed that out... Aug 03 14:14:45 * zecke_ thinks forum patches are for forum users Aug 03 14:15:37 sometimes I have a day^Wmoments when I want to help those trolls^Wusers Aug 03 14:16:54 http://pastebin.ca/19216 Aug 03 14:17:04 what is the point of adding a generic keyboard driver? Aug 03 14:17:10 DaKa2: Oh yes, that looks good! Aug 03 14:17:16 yeah contradict it with SL5xxx assumptions Aug 03 14:17:28 florian: fantastic, does it actually work? Aug 03 14:17:35 is there a reason my bitbake uses INVALID-linux-uclibc as target? i specified arm-linux-uclibc in bitbake.conf Aug 03 14:17:38 (well, i don't know if it uses INVALID-linux-uclibc as target, but at least that's what it named the build-folder) Aug 03 14:17:54 fuchsto: set TARGET_ARCH? Aug 03 14:18:08 http://pastebin.ca/19217 is second one Aug 03 14:18:17 TARGET-ARCH=arm Aug 03 14:18:21 DaKa2: this we'll see late - but at least it compiles now. Aug 03 14:18:34 should it be TARGET_ARCH=arm-linux-uclibc? Aug 03 14:18:34 fuchsto: TARGET_ARCH, not TARGET-ARCH ? :) Aug 03 14:18:54 :) it's TARGET_ARCH. Fo sho. Aug 03 14:19:11 florian: well, send me a msg or an email and tell me how it works Aug 03 14:19:28 fuchsto: armeb? Aug 03 14:19:29 now I should probably start getting home Aug 03 14:19:31 hrw: thanks, sadly this patch is void Aug 03 14:19:42 armeb? ... EmBedded? Aug 03 14:19:47 * fuchsto tries Aug 03 14:19:48 fuchsto: big endian Aug 03 14:20:16 TARGET_OS=arm-linux? Aug 03 14:20:29 zecke_: nasty Aug 03 14:20:33 whoops, no, i need little endian. armle? Aug 03 14:20:48 armel? Dunno Aug 03 14:20:52 hrw: I've started BSD licensing my software for that reason Aug 03 14:20:54 arm .. el .. Aug 03 14:20:58 fsck kdepimpi - I go sleep - it take too much time to compile Aug 03 14:21:09 "here is the source. Run with it, run as far as you can" Aug 03 14:21:10 fuchsto: arm is le, armeb is be Aug 03 14:21:16 bye Aug 03 14:21:22 cya Aug 03 14:21:27 so my TARGET_ARCH=arm is alright. Humm Aug 03 14:21:52 Laibsch: send a reminder to admin@handhelds.org, I can make you a tar ball. Aug 03 14:21:57 it is time for me to run Aug 03 14:22:00 bye bye Aug 03 14:22:07 later france_ Aug 03 14:22:22 reenoo_: bye Aug 03 14:22:25 france_: OK. Aug 03 14:22:36 france_: Later Aug 03 14:23:57 hrw|gone: why do I always sound that unfriendly :} Aug 03 14:25:51 Aha! Apparently, i have to set a machine. Aug 03 14:27:45 what if my machine isn't listed in org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine? Aug 03 14:27:56 pick one that is close or add a new one Aug 03 14:28:02 hey mickeyl Aug 03 14:28:05 evening Aug 03 14:28:51 night all, it's time.... Aug 03 14:28:53 mickeyl: i have a DNP-1110 ... which one is supposed to be close enough? Aug 03 14:29:21 hmm Aug 03 14:29:24 never heard that Aug 03 14:29:29 any idea about ARCH ? Aug 03 14:30:27 mickeyl: errm ... in what respect? Aug 03 14:30:40 ARCH=arm, right? Aug 03 14:30:40 do you know which CPU architecture is in your machine? Aug 03 14:30:55 mickeyl: it's an little-endian arm. Well. Intel. Well. Aug 03 14:31:09 aha. armv5te ? Aug 03 14:31:18 mickeyl: running some generic arm-linux atm Aug 03 14:31:25 dnp-1110 sounds like sa Aug 03 14:31:27 mickeyl: Yes, could be. Aug 03 14:31:44 dnp-1110 = "it uses SA-1110" Aug 03 14:31:54 The DIL/NetPC DNP/1110 provides a very compact Intel 206 MHz SA-1110 StrongARM-based Aug 03 14:32:06 koen: very correct indeed. Aug 03 14:32:14 i see, then your options are many. pick an ipaq or a zaurus and remove the settings that don't apply to your board. then add a kernel with a defconfig for your board and set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-dnp-1100" Aug 03 14:32:17 (or so) Aug 03 14:32:34 h3600 or collie Aug 03 14:32:35 aah, ic ... Aug 03 14:32:58 mickeyl: mail sent to a-d@ btw Aug 03 14:34:01 koen: got it. thanks Aug 03 14:34:14 curious whether we get any responses... Aug 03 14:34:28 we have ~10 subscribers Aug 03 14:34:31 interesting http://os.newsforge.com/os/05/08/03/1246236.shtml?tid=2&tid=138 Aug 03 14:35:00 yeah Aug 03 14:35:04 OpieSuse Aug 03 14:35:20 koen: hehe Aug 03 14:36:38 FInally. Working Orinoco as well Aug 03 14:36:49 take a word, stick in 'k', 'q' or 'open' -> qt app Aug 03 14:37:00 take a word, put a 'g' in front -> gnome app Aug 03 14:37:03 RP: where/what? Aug 03 14:37:29 mickeyl: Both hostap and orinoco were broken with 2.6.13-rc2 onwards Aug 03 14:37:49 mickeyl: The good news is I've now tracked down the issues and have it mostly working Aug 03 14:38:16 mickeyl: There is some bad news though in that autoloading of pcmcia modules is going to need looking at now... Aug 03 14:38:33 i see. don't forget to test spectrum while you're there Aug 03 14:38:59 * mickeyl freshborn X fan Aug 03 14:39:00 mickeyl: Its your spectrum card I'm using ;-) Aug 03 14:39:03 RP: excellent :) Aug 03 14:39:11 spectrum_cs doesn't autoload for some reason. I've also had to manuallyadd the spectrum device ids to the drive Aug 03 14:39:12 It's _your_ spectrum card :) Aug 03 14:39:14 driver Aug 03 14:39:18 mickeyl: LyX changed it? Aug 03 14:39:22 koen: absolutely. Aug 03 14:39:32 koen: can't believe how usable it is Aug 03 14:39:33 fast and all Aug 03 14:39:58 you get the fluff and incompatibility for free too! Aug 03 14:40:07 mickeyl: I kind of see it as held in trust ;-). 0.15rc2 works btw so I'm removing the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 from it Aug 03 14:40:11 hehe. it has lots of issues left to get it completely working, but i'm on the right track Aug 03 14:40:17 RP: ok, very good Aug 03 14:40:33 Pavel will probably release 0.15 final soon Aug 03 14:40:34 mickeyl: now you only need to fix all broken packages and you can continue on your Ph.D? Aug 03 14:40:39 We should probably look at mainlining the spectrum_cs code Aug 03 14:41:10 zecke: nah. I'm actually more focused. I do less things in parallel, but still enjoy hacking one or two hours on OE. Aug 03 14:41:17 hostap is now in mainline (needs fixing which I'll do) Aug 03 14:41:17 (per day, that is) Aug 03 14:41:30 well, its in -mm so heading for mainline Aug 03 14:42:22 RP: yeah, mainlining wouldn't be bad. At least for the current kernels. The 2.4 better use our external stuff Aug 03 14:42:48 mickeyl: My thoughts exactly. 2.4 is a dead end development wise really... Aug 03 14:43:22 Hopefully oe can cope with an internal/external module selection. If not, it'll need to learn :) Aug 03 14:43:33 the 2.4.20 sucks even more than the 2.4.18. it has horrible suspend/resume timing issues. sometimes the harddisk doesn't spin down, sometimes the hd LED stays on, sometimes the system freezes completely on resume Aug 03 14:43:35 *sigh* Aug 03 14:43:58 RP: sure. it's more or less just tweaking the defconfig and the machine config to change from external to internal Aug 03 14:44:20 mickeyl: There is still a chance I may end up with a Cxk so there is some hope ;-) Aug 03 14:44:31 * mickeyl crosses all available fingers Aug 03 14:44:46 mickeyl: I figure you will receive both prices? Aug 03 14:44:47 although not from the source I originally thought - that's fallen through... Aug 03 14:45:33 zecke: i have no idea. When I get contacted, I'll instruct them to send it to me first (at least it's germany -> germany) and then we need to elect two people. I don't need any more Zaurii :) Aug 03 14:45:50 Do we have people using orinoco and hermes instead of spectrum? Aug 03 14:46:15 RP: for which cards? Aug 03 14:46:29 there is no alternative to spectrum_cs for the Symbol/Spectrum. Aug 03 14:46:41 mickeyl: That's what I'm asking - do people have cards that use the others? Aug 03 14:46:58 RP: ah. sure I have a lot of orinoco pcmcia cards here Aug 03 14:47:07 I'd probably better patch the other device ids then... Aug 03 14:47:10 *nod* Aug 03 14:47:20 what a mess :-/ Aug 03 14:47:36 actually Aug 03 14:47:38 to be honest Aug 03 14:47:56 Pavel should've added fw uploading into orinoco_cs Aug 03 14:47:57 mickeyl: zecke proposed to move the device around every couple of months between active devs Aug 03 14:48:12 (how many people in here are german, btw) Aug 03 14:48:13 instead he s/orinoco/spectrum/ and added the firmware loader Aug 03 14:48:15 koen: this is why I create alternative egos Aug 03 14:48:16 * koen proposes kernel devs Aug 03 14:48:30 * mickeyl agrees. kernel devs at least for the 6000 Aug 03 14:48:42 I do not want to see them rotting Aug 03 14:48:47 do13 would welcome help Aug 03 14:48:51 zecke_: where 'active developers' gets measured by the amount of Leffe Brun sent to Franfurt Aug 03 14:48:55 zecke: i know. we had that situation once Aug 03 14:49:00 yeha! Aug 03 14:49:03 exactly Aug 03 14:49:12 more Leffe Brune for mickeyl Aug 03 14:49:17 mickeyl: so spectrum is orinoco really? Aug 03 14:49:43 RP: yes. like i said, it's cp -a orinoco_cs.c spectrum_cs.c, s/orinoco/spectrum, + add firmware uploader. Aug 03 14:49:50 I diffed the early releases Aug 03 14:49:55 then later I just asked him Aug 03 14:49:58 and he confirmed that :) Aug 03 14:50:13 but at that time, David wasn't accepting patches to orinoco, so he hadn't another chance Aug 03 14:50:22 So that'll be why spectrum isn't in the kernel Aug 03 14:50:40 The plan is to merge spectrum as well, but Pavel is pretty busy Aug 03 14:50:56 * JustinP crosses his fingers too Aug 03 14:51:10 those wlan drivers lived way too long outside the kernel Aug 03 14:51:17 all of 'em Aug 03 14:51:32 I know. I might see if I can help things along... Aug 03 14:51:35 great Aug 03 14:51:59 I'm sick of fixing them :) Aug 03 14:52:07 * mickeyl wonders why heise.de isn't posting the Linux/GNU award news Aug 03 14:52:17 I have quite a raft of stuff to go into mainline when you include the hx2750 :-/ Aug 03 14:52:48 thinking about how much code we get into maiinline nowadays the situation is fantastic Aug 03 14:52:52 compare that to two years ago Aug 03 14:54:11 mickeyl: hmm... sometimes heise is very strange. Aug 03 14:54:37 OT: can dropbear handle X forwarding to a Z? it works the other way round Aug 03 14:54:40 I *am* going to get a c7x0 booting a mainline kernel with no patches eventually :) Aug 03 14:54:59 To get around the linking bug, we'll have to hack updater.sh Aug 03 14:55:00 florian: *nod* i already send them a mail to notify them and then they asked me for more details which I send back. still no news entry :/ Aug 03 14:55:10 RP: oops. in how far? Aug 03 14:55:40 mickeyl: Just to append zeros to the end of the kernel to stop the flasher from truncating it... Aug 03 14:55:50 ah ok Aug 03 14:55:59 Its what the pxa-linking patch does... Aug 03 14:56:08 i'm still dreaming of a full fledged installation app based on nice demo scene style Aug 03 14:56:12 We can't ask mainline to accept that... Aug 03 14:56:43 If we ever rewrite the bootloader, its possible :) Aug 03 14:56:47 heh Aug 03 14:56:59 I'm not going there though ;-) Aug 03 14:57:01 ten points for coolness, but minus two millions for sanity Aug 03 14:57:10 there's better work out there Aug 03 14:57:10 heh Aug 03 14:57:31 For starters it means decoding sharp FTL which I'm not touching... Aug 03 14:57:44 (FTL = Flash Translation Layer) Aug 03 14:57:53 eek. i'm not even thinking about that Aug 03 14:58:14 Trust me, don't ;-) Aug 03 14:58:31 we've seen what they did to a kernel... i don't really would like to see their angel boot deriative... Aug 03 14:59:18 while we are talking about bricking Z's.. is there a way to boot the "flasher" rootfs and get a shell on it? Aug 03 14:59:36 modify updater.sh to run "sh" ;-) Aug 03 14:59:37 CoreDump|home: yeah. just call /bin/sh from the updater.sh Aug 03 14:59:45 mickeyl: you beat me ;-) Aug 03 14:59:48 :) Aug 03 14:59:50 no, that's cheating :) Aug 03 15:00:04 I mean, mount some magic partition etc Aug 03 15:00:29 With a 2.4 kernel with a modified CMDLINE, you probably could Aug 03 15:00:36 sure Aug 03 15:00:37 you need the FTL so a 2.6 one won Aug 03 15:00:42 won't touch it Aug 03 15:00:48 you need to modify the mtdblock RW table though Aug 03 15:00:51 I'd expect anyway... Aug 03 15:01:06 no , RO is fine :) Aug 03 15:01:35 then just try to boot from /dev/mtdblock1 and find out how to set the initrd params right Aug 03 15:01:36 IIRC I tried mounting the "3rd" partition on my Akita and it didn't work Aug 03 15:01:46 echo 'brick' > /dev/mtdblock0 Aug 03 15:01:48 yeah, probably mtdlbock3 Aug 03 15:02:07 CoreDump|home: 3rd is the /home partition. you want the 1st one Aug 03 15:02:16 right Aug 03 15:02:17 but you'll need to lookup the magic offset Aug 03 15:02:21 ahh Aug 03 15:02:31 and remember that it's gzipped iirc Aug 03 15:02:36 it starts with the sharp param area and only part of it is a rootfs Aug 03 15:02:59 mickeyl: It is? That might explain why I never decoded it :) Aug 03 15:03:04 :D Aug 03 15:03:18 I'll dump it tommorrow and have a look Aug 03 15:03:32 yep. iirc they just write a ext2fs gzipped into the mtdblock and then mount it as RAMDISK from the maintenance kernel Aug 03 15:03:36 good luck, you'll need it ;-) Aug 03 15:04:21 probably not even worth the effort heh Aug 03 15:04:28 definitly not. Aug 03 15:04:39 if you want a fancy updater, just ship more stuff onto the updater SD/CF Aug 03 15:04:39 trust me - stay well clear ;-) Aug 03 15:05:23 ok :) I'd rather not want to learn what JTAG is all about heh Aug 03 15:05:58 if you want to do something low level, work on 2.6 for akita Aug 03 15:06:08 anyway, need to go to sleep Aug 03 15:06:10 g'night guys Aug 03 15:06:12 * CoreDump|home snickers Aug 03 15:06:15 n8 mickeyl Aug 03 15:06:15 'night mickeyl Aug 03 15:06:18 night Aug 03 15:06:35 'night mickey|zzZZzz Aug 03 15:07:23 'night all Aug 03 15:08:16 'night mickey|zzZZzz Aug 03 15:08:20 'night koen|zZzZzZzZz Aug 03 15:08:50 CoreDump|home: FWIW, you should never need jtag on a sharp device other than perhaps collie Aug 03 15:08:59 They have recovery code in PROM Aug 03 15:09:28 I've heard that there were situation when the second "flasher" kernel was trashed Aug 03 15:09:51 CoreDump|home: yes, but in that case you can still use the debug menu to restore a nand backup and thereby bring it back. Aug 03 15:09:54 * kergoth yawns Aug 03 15:10:18 kergoth: that's good to know! Morning kergoth :) Aug 03 15:10:24 heh Aug 03 15:11:13 kergoth: Not quite as you can trash that as well. There are some magic keys that have it rewrite NAND from a CF card though ;-) Aug 03 15:11:29 morning btw :) Aug 03 15:11:47 so many magic keys.... Aug 03 15:11:47 (and I'm speaking from experience here ;-) Aug 03 15:12:12 the debug menu isnt even in nand. its in nor or eeprom, depending on device Aug 03 15:12:19 afaik. Aug 03 15:12:39 CoreDump|home: now that I think of it there *are* two keys you can press on the Spitz to get a shell....probably same for Akita. Ask jnc. Aug 03 15:13:00 hah, i knew it ;) Aug 03 15:15:50 kergoth: I could corrupt NAND and stop the NAND restore working Aug 03 15:16:45 doesnt the debug menu also have a nand erase function? Aug 03 15:17:36 It does which makes you wonder. I was able to break the NAND restore with damage to the NAND data... Aug 03 15:18:17 Once I restored the mainenance area, I was able to restore everything... Aug 03 15:27:21 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r80e86c6d... 10/packages/hostap/ (hostap-modules-0.3.7/add_event.patch hostap-modules_0.3.7.bb): hostap: Fix this to work with the latest kernels Aug 03 15:27:25 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf44a478d... 10/packages/orinoco/ (8 files in 3 dirs): orinoco: Fix this to work with the latest kernels. Further device IDs may need adding for spectrum cards... Aug 03 15:34:03 good nite Aug 03 15:50:55 n8 Aug 03 16:07:26 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r12b28d2f... 10/ (classes/gpe.bbclass packages/minimix/minimix_0.7.bb): gpe.bbclass: GPE_TARBALL_SUFFIX sounds better for gz vs. bz2 Aug 03 16:17:54 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * re2754bed... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Aug 03 16:17:54 Make netpbm work by removing the use of built in sin and cos (not supported Aug 03 16:17:54 by uclibc). Aug 03 16:31:23 this monotone thing really does take a while the first time !! still going ! Aug 03 16:32:37 you should have used the snapshot Aug 03 16:33:51 oops, oh well, its time for some kip now, ill try find some time to do a bit more 2morrow, nighty night Aug 03 17:00:22 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rff15002f... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add streamripper and mpd in to the build, vorbis now builds. Aug 03 17:01:07 yay for mpd Aug 03 17:01:40 you're adding *all* of the MPC stuff in there? mpc, ncmpc, gmpc, and glurp? Dont slugs not have graphical output? You don't have gmpc and glurp in that case Aug 03 17:02:42 oh, that's bbfiles Aug 03 17:02:43 nm Aug 03 17:14:07 hrm, gentoo portage is so retarded compared to OE Aug 03 17:14:11 heh Aug 03 17:14:26 heh Aug 03 17:14:30 explain Aug 03 17:14:47 I see *more* flexibility in some places in portage Aug 03 17:17:00 in a lot of ways. hardcoded paths all over the place. hidden settings. etc. Aug 03 17:18:26 and if you actually have to regenerate its cache.. well.. bitbake flies compared to that. Aug 03 17:21:21 the most annoying thing is that vim .swp files irritate the freaking digest checker Aug 03 17:21:29 irritates even Aug 03 17:21:34 err.. no Aug 03 17:29:13 anyways Aug 03 17:29:18 * reenoo_ heads off to bed Aug 03 17:29:21 'night all Aug 03 18:15:53 zecke: OpenSlug, UcSlugc and Unslung should now be sending http posts correctly to tinderbox now. And it looks like the timezones are working well. Aug 03 18:20:32 hm, anyone here happen to know much about oprofile? Aug 03 19:14:42 heya rasterman Aug 03 19:20:06 raster: are you working on eem? Aug 03 19:20:23 eem? Aug 03 19:20:47 burrp Aug 03 19:20:52 JustinP: i did write it Aug 03 19:20:56 but i'm not actively working on it Aug 03 19:20:57 no time Aug 03 19:21:00 * emte hands raster more beer Aug 03 19:21:01 it was a demo only really Aug 03 19:21:11 emte: dont need beer. need time Aug 03 19:21:11 I see Aug 03 19:21:39 * emte hands raster time machine ... oh wait thats classified /me takes back timemachine Aug 03 19:21:58 oh eem the embedded demo Aug 03 19:22:11 well, it would be cool to get e17 working on some other devices Aug 03 19:22:13 any no, i havent worked on it this week yet :( Aug 03 19:22:24 was going to do some tonight Aug 03 19:22:46 I wasnted to know if it was just a demo... Aug 03 19:22:58 yeah but biohazard isnt Aug 03 19:23:08 ? Aug 03 19:23:13 yeah Aug 03 19:23:21 the embedded e17 wm Aug 03 19:23:25 biohazard is emte's go at doing an embedded ui using efl Aug 03 19:23:25 :) Aug 03 19:23:37 oh cool :-) Aug 03 19:23:41 abet a slow attempt Aug 03 19:24:10 would be cool to have E on my handheld :-) Aug 03 19:25:27 well technically you can put the existing on on there ... Aug 03 19:25:36 true Aug 03 19:26:01 i had all the bb to build it that way ... for various reasons they were removed Aug 03 19:26:13 what kind of reasons? Aug 03 19:26:26 (I was thinking of trying to get them in there myself...) Aug 03 19:26:37 bad lines in the files Aug 03 19:26:43 "bad lines"? Aug 03 19:27:03 raster isnt an maintainer, broke one or two other packages taht depend on the old ones , etc Aug 03 19:27:25 hmmm, ok Aug 03 19:27:58 anyway the first goal is to finish the desktop and menu Aug 03 19:28:07 do you still have working bb files for it all? Aug 03 19:28:17 then to package it up to start integrating it into oe Aug 03 19:28:27 depends Aug 03 19:28:34 on how much raster has changed Aug 03 19:28:59 * JustinP is confused Aug 03 19:29:01 and if i backed them up before my system crash on sat Aug 03 19:29:06 ah Aug 03 19:29:26 raster has a habit of making huge changes to increase speed Aug 03 19:29:40 well assuming they work with recent autotools it shouldn't be too hard to make them build Aug 03 19:29:48 like the 385 images per second load ... it wasnt fast enough Aug 03 19:29:51 you mean BC breaking changes? Aug 03 19:30:15 he rewrites parts of the libraries Aug 03 19:30:20 ok Aug 03 19:30:37 and other packages which depend on those libraries are fscked? Aug 03 19:30:40 or the whole library if he gets carried away Aug 03 19:31:02 once in a while unexpected things happen Aug 03 19:31:13 inverted coordinates is one example Aug 03 19:31:38 hmm Aug 03 19:31:42 altho i dont think that one was raster Aug 03 19:31:44 co-ords shoudlnt have gottne inverted... Aug 03 19:31:58 nah thats the problem with eem and the new libs Aug 03 19:32:08 hmmm...ok...are there a lot of packages in OE which depend on these libraries? or are you talking about other libraries (non-E)? Aug 03 19:32:08 unless you updated eem Aug 03 19:32:30 i can only think of two off hand Aug 03 19:32:38 one is a media player Aug 03 19:32:49 and the other some type of graphics app Aug 03 19:33:23 both as far as i know arnt really used Aug 03 19:33:59 so you're saying those would break? Aug 03 19:34:14 i am saying i did break them Aug 03 19:34:19 I personally don't much care...I'm not a core OE dev and use my own branch so I can do what I want Aug 03 19:34:39 yup Aug 03 19:35:27 * emte wonders where i put all my e code ... Aug 03 19:35:31 hehe Aug 03 19:35:37 and remebers i need to recompile e17 Aug 03 19:35:44 i hate reinstalling Aug 03 19:36:53 I compiled today and it didn't seem to work...I started up entrance and logged in and it bllipped and went back to login Aug 03 19:37:01 but hey, it's CVS code so I don't mind Aug 03 19:37:36 it shoudl work Aug 03 19:37:45 raster, what did you break now? Aug 03 19:37:53 :P Aug 03 19:38:07 and whats my cvs passwd ... Aug 03 19:38:08 emte: nothing :) Aug 03 19:38:10 hmm Aug 03 19:38:22 could also have to do with it being on my TV and low res...but I doubt it Aug 03 19:38:22 * emte looks for "the book" Aug 03 19:39:09 hmm Aug 03 19:41:24 i know its around here ... Aug 03 19:41:25 JustinP: nah - e will run at any res pretty much Aug 03 19:41:31 i run it on my zaurus Aug 03 19:41:33 640x480 Aug 03 19:41:36 no problems Aug 03 19:41:38 its a bit cramped Aug 03 19:41:55 JustinP: have u tried starting it by hand? Aug 03 19:43:32 raster: no, I let gentoo do it for me Aug 03 19:44:14 try log in using safe fallback (jyst an xterm) Aug 03 19:44:18 and run enlightenment from that Aug 03 19:44:22 see if e is segving or somehting and why Aug 03 19:44:30 ro rtun e in xnest Aug 03 19:44:34 it coudl be entranc Aug 03 19:44:39 entrance not runing e Aug 03 19:44:42 as such Aug 03 19:44:45 check your system logs Aug 03 19:44:47 could be Aug 03 19:44:55 could also be me misconfiguring something ;-) Aug 03 19:44:55 run xnets and run e17 in it to see Aug 03 19:45:00 i doubt it Aug 03 19:45:10 e is fairly robust in that respect Aug 03 19:45:13 i wodul hope - anwyay Aug 03 19:46:49 did gentoo build it or did you? Aug 03 19:47:55 yes Aug 03 19:48:02 from CVS Aug 03 19:49:28 that doesnt awnswer the question Aug 03 19:49:41 I can't get Xnest up....never used it before... Aug 03 19:49:49 emte: yes, Gentoo built it for me Aug 03 19:50:08 then you probably have a build issue Aug 03 19:50:57 why's that? Aug 03 19:51:26 would guess someone didnt set it up right Aug 03 19:51:38 build it by hand Aug 03 19:52:12 there *are* people using e17 on Gentoo...there's a wiki page set up with instructions and all...it all *did* build Aug 03 19:52:27 which kind of build problem? Aug 03 19:53:18 something changed, you have different hardware/requs, etc Aug 03 19:53:48 your following someone else's recipe, that doesnt mean its right for you Aug 03 19:54:45 this is the whole idea of Gentoo....everything else works fine... Aug 03 19:57:32 and, as said before, this may be misconfiguration by me Aug 03 19:57:43 I'll test a bit more before rebuilding the whole thing Aug 03 20:00:00 bleck sf cvs is SLOOOOOOW Aug 03 20:01:02 failsafe doesn't work either...blue and purple lines, default X cursor, the line again, then entranced comes back Aug 03 20:03:30 * JustinP starts up E manually Aug 03 20:06:19 looks pretty sweet Aug 03 20:06:37 now why wasn't entranced working.....:-| Aug 03 20:14:08 nope, it won't start up any sessions... Aug 03 20:14:29 hmm Aug 03 20:18:19 Running aclocal... Aug 03 20:18:19 /usr/share/aclocal/gtk.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK Aug 03 20:18:19 run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' Aug 03 20:18:20 nice Aug 03 20:19:00 emte: did you find your bb files? Aug 03 20:19:19 no, i didnt know i was looking Aug 03 20:19:22 sec Aug 03 20:21:23 heh, ok Aug 03 20:21:57 hmm Aug 03 20:22:16 i have something ... not sure these ones work or were finished ... Aug 03 20:22:32 well, something's better than nothing Aug 03 20:24:36 lol Aug 03 20:24:48 not if they are broken or messed up Aug 03 20:25:00 I suppose Aug 03 20:25:23 originally the set in e17 cvs did work Aug 03 20:25:33 not sure if they still do Aug 03 20:26:41 set of bb files? Aug 03 20:28:05 yup Aug 03 20:28:10 try those fist Aug 03 20:28:14 first* Aug 03 20:28:29 i think they were the set i converted from .oe to .bb Aug 03 20:28:52 which raster origianlly wrote for his zaurus i belive Aug 03 20:31:12 hmmm, ok Aug 03 20:31:18 which Zaurus does he have? Aug 03 20:31:39 a couple Aug 03 20:31:44 he lives in jp Aug 03 20:31:59 so they are easier to aquire Aug 03 20:33:44 OIC Aug 03 20:34:16 hmm i think i have an autoconf issue ... Aug 03 20:34:23 stupid auto tools Aug 03 20:35:47 grr Aug 03 20:37:35 anyone recognize this? Aug 03 20:37:37 Running autoconf... Aug 03 20:37:37 configure.in:16: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED Aug 03 20:37:37 If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. Aug 03 20:37:37 See the Autoconf documentation. Aug 03 20:37:38 configure.in:17: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL Aug 03 20:37:51 :-| Aug 03 20:41:48 there we go Aug 03 20:41:56 autotools was too new Aug 03 20:42:06 raster, time to update your auto scripts Aug 03 20:42:13 aw shit Aug 03 20:42:32 if the auto scripts don't work with the new autotools they will *not* work in OE Aug 03 20:42:47 they should Aug 03 20:42:56 oe uses the system autotools Aug 03 20:43:05 i was generationg Aug 03 20:43:23 you know ./autogen.sh Aug 03 20:44:17 id3 loads images ... Aug 03 20:44:21 eek, these are .oe files... Aug 03 20:44:36 originally yes Aug 03 20:44:59 the OEFAILES etc just need to be changed to BBFILES and make sure it has a licemse Aug 03 20:45:11 nice spelling on my part Aug 03 20:45:13 yeah Aug 03 20:45:42 any more recent drastic changes to the bb meta, i am not aware of Aug 03 20:46:47 i need to fix my damn system sound Aug 03 20:47:13 the only thing i havent got to work in debian ... Aug 03 20:47:28 emte: oe doesnt use the system autotools, it uses the ones it builds, which are latest Aug 03 20:47:43 ah Aug 03 20:47:45 updating the package to work with current autotools is a large part of adding it to oe Aug 03 20:48:21 that's what I thought... Aug 03 20:48:24 maybe i can convice raster to switch to smake or sothing beter :P Aug 03 20:48:35 u doubt it Aug 03 20:48:38 i doubt it Aug 03 20:48:38 lol Aug 03 20:48:44 how about an update then? Aug 03 20:48:47 at this stage autofoo is entrenched Aug 03 20:48:51 i HATe dealing with it Aug 03 20:48:52 its a pita Aug 03 20:48:56 but it works mostly Aug 03 20:48:57 yeah it is Aug 03 20:48:58 and will stay for now Aug 03 20:49:04 no update Aug 03 20:49:05 it WORKS Aug 03 20:49:06 for me Aug 03 20:49:09 on my system Aug 03 20:49:12 if it aint broke Aug 03 20:49:12 * JustinP sighs Aug 03 20:49:14 dont fix it. Aug 03 20:49:19 dont update your autotools then Aug 03 20:49:22 i dont just update 1 thng Aug 03 20:49:29 i have to update like 20 or so trees Aug 03 20:49:38 might want to put a note on the cvs page Aug 03 20:49:39 its a major undertaking to "update" Aug 03 20:49:50 i dont update them Aug 03 20:49:52 I understand.... Aug 03 20:50:02 istick to libtool 1.5, automake 21.7 and autoconf 2.59 Aug 03 20:50:05 * emte volunteers JustinP Aug 03 20:50:17 hehe Aug 03 20:50:19 i will not update unless i have no choice Aug 03 20:50:25 i have code to write Aug 03 20:50:35 I don't know anything about those systems except that they're magic Aug 03 20:50:38 not build "files' to fuck with that wont actually make the code improve at all Aug 03 20:50:40 :( Aug 03 20:50:51 after e17 i am considerign looking at improving it Aug 03 20:50:59 maybe buuilding a meta build system of our own Aug 03 20:51:05 so we can update/fix it in 1 place Aug 03 20:51:12 and alltrees can update then Aug 03 20:51:15 from the same templates Aug 03 20:51:30 yeah that seems well within embryo if it can run standalone .. Aug 03 20:52:48 autoconf 2.59 should be fine, libtool 1.5 should be fine Aug 03 20:52:52 even automake 1.7 should be Aug 03 20:52:59 so there shouldnt be anything to update Aug 03 20:53:09 automake > 1.7 is slightly more picky, but the fixes are minor Aug 03 20:55:34 * emte mumbles about damn passwds and the need to buy a biometric card Aug 03 20:55:57 * JustinP runs "bitbake meta-e" Aug 03 20:56:29 doesnt generate much of any usefulness Aug 03 20:57:41 or anything....missing packages Aug 03 20:57:59 not supprising Aug 03 20:58:12 i am supposed to be maintining it :( Aug 03 20:58:28 i should be able to reinstall BB now tho Aug 03 20:58:36 havent been able to use it for a couple months Aug 03 20:59:06 hmmm... Aug 03 20:59:26 what do you want JustinP ? Aug 03 20:59:38 i'll give you a set Aug 03 20:59:48 fb, x11, fb+x11 ? Aug 03 20:59:49 well I'm missing evas... Aug 03 20:59:55 huh? Aug 03 21:00:03 you have three choices Aug 03 21:00:06 oh, X11 I think...not sure exactly which is best Aug 03 21:00:15 if E runs on fb, would this not be faster? Aug 03 21:00:18 depends if your device has fb support or not Aug 03 21:00:32 I believe the spitz runs on fb, yes Aug 03 21:00:39 so x11+fb Aug 03 21:00:45 give me a few min Aug 03 21:00:48 Xfbdev Aug 03 21:00:52 ok Aug 03 21:00:53 thanks Aug 03 21:07:42 JustinP, i just tossed em all in Aug 03 21:07:48 can you accept dcc? Aug 03 21:07:55 or you need me to mail? Aug 03 21:08:02 possibly....but mail would be easier Aug 03 21:08:09 * JustinP isn't sure how to dcc with irssi Aug 03 21:08:17 you can try Aug 03 21:08:45 type /dcc get emte Aug 03 21:09:00 there you go Aug 03 21:09:06 ok, then Aug 03 21:10:08 hopefully those were/are a valid set Aug 03 21:10:33 i think they pull from fd.org tho not cvs Aug 03 21:12:00 * JustinP tries... Aug 03 21:12:04 hmmm, parse errors Aug 03 21:12:21 detail? Aug 03 21:12:46 global name 'ParseError' not defined ;-) Aug 03 21:13:00 how about a useful paste? Aug 03 21:13:23 believe me it wouldn't help Aug 03 21:13:58 well i cant fix it then Aug 03 21:14:29 missing \ after --with-x in evas bb file Aug 03 21:15:07 shouldnt need a line break for options ... Aug 03 21:15:19 maybe it does ... Aug 03 21:15:32 there was no \ Aug 03 21:15:33 but like i said i am not sure if taht set works Aug 03 21:15:45 I know, I'm playing with it :-) Aug 03 21:16:03 hopefully all you need are minor adjusments Aug 03 21:16:43 wow, fun...OE assumes the filename includes the fetch.php? Aug 03 21:17:06 sometimes Aug 03 21:17:21 any the ? was part of the statement, sorry Aug 03 21:18:16 yeah that sounds like one of my comments Aug 03 21:18:19 my typing lately... Aug 03 21:18:42 anyone, variable for name of tarball? Aug 03 21:19:01 comeagain? Aug 03 21:19:20 it inherits taht from the package name Aug 03 21:20:25 let's see if I can explain better Aug 03 21:20:27 SRC_URI = "http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz" Aug 03 21:20:38 rm: cannot remove `/home/papercrane/oe/sources/fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz*': No such file or directory Aug 03 21:20:41 NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz Aug 03 21:20:47 the last 2 lines are from bitbake Aug 03 21:21:15 you shoudl verify that it is indeed at that location ... fd.org did reorganize some time ago Aug 03 21:21:25 the download works just fine Aug 03 21:21:28 I can see wget getting it Aug 03 21:21:47 it downloads as "evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz", not "fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz" Aug 03 21:22:17 yeah ... Aug 03 21:22:23 i forget what the fix is for that Aug 03 21:22:40 * JustinP greps Aug 03 21:23:35 damn, no-one else has ? in their SRC_URI Aug 03 21:23:44 any way to get those files without going through PHP? Aug 03 21:23:45 hmm Aug 03 21:23:51 i just found another set ... Aug 03 21:24:31 hehe Aug 03 21:24:34 and CVS set perhaps? Aug 03 21:24:48 (probably wouldn't be too hard to convert these actually...) Aug 03 21:25:09 i did static because raster was changing libs at that point Aug 03 21:25:27 SRC_URI = "http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/files/evas-${PV}.tar.gz \ Aug 03 21:25:27 file://pkg.m4" Aug 03 21:25:28 understandable Aug 03 21:25:43 is what i have for an inc Aug 03 21:28:36 btw anyone program PICs Aug 03 21:28:48 with an ICD, ICD2, or picstart+ ? Aug 03 21:29:02 http://www.landamore.com/pic.html Aug 03 21:29:08 might be of interest to you Aug 03 21:29:59 the only *nix one to support the ICD2 Aug 03 21:48:31 * emte is guessing the files are working for JustinP now? Aug 03 21:52:11 no, not really... Aug 03 21:52:20 missing pkg.m4.... Aug 03 21:52:28 working on other stuff as well Aug 03 21:52:55 well pkg.m4 is in my dir Aug 03 21:53:04 its an m4 patch Aug 03 21:54:19 not in the SRC_URI Aug 03 21:54:27 like I said, working on other stuff for a minute... Aug 03 22:46:58 morning people Aug 03 22:47:42 morning Aug 03 22:48:34 oi Aug 03 22:53:32 raster, how usable is med? Aug 03 22:56:24 med? Aug 03 22:56:30 for editing menus? Aug 03 22:56:37 it isnt. Aug 03 22:56:39 dont use it. Aug 03 22:57:47 k Aug 03 22:59:12 hi all Aug 03 22:59:58 lets see if i can switch wm now Aug 03 23:18:28 finally Aug 03 23:18:32 stupid gdm Aug 03 23:33:46 who is hosting the oesources.org stuff? Aug 03 23:38:16 raster how do i fix the annoying application background color? Aug 03 23:39:51 blue backgraound with black or green text doesnt work too well Aug 03 23:40:32 ? Aug 03 23:41:02 well firefox is doing it Aug 03 23:41:07 anjuta as well Aug 03 23:41:15 errr Aug 03 23:41:18 apps are apps Aug 03 23:41:23 thats their issue Aug 03 23:41:29 lol Aug 03 23:41:33 wm doesnt do anythign abotu how/what apps draw inside their windows Aug 03 23:41:39 hmm Aug 03 23:41:47 thats up to the toolkit or app or both Aug 03 23:41:52 they werent doing it under gnome/kde Aug 03 23:43:16 wonder if galeon does it Aug 03 23:43:51 e doesnt do anything to them Aug 03 23:43:53 doesnt touch them Aug 03 23:43:59 they are left entirely alone Aug 03 23:44:13 so likely it is some user setup of your own that tells apsp to do that Aug 03 23:44:14 yeah all my browsers do it now ... Aug 03 23:44:18 maybe .gtkrc Aug 03 23:44:29 could be ... Aug 03 23:45:23 as i said Aug 03 23:45:30 e does nothing to interferer with your apps that way Aug 03 23:45:33 they are on their own Aug 03 23:45:45 they will do just what they woudl do if u had NO wm running Aug 03 23:46:54 hmm Aug 03 23:47:00 funny funny Aug 03 23:47:55 (firefox-bin:10290): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) Aug 03 23:48:00 is the only warning ... Aug 03 23:48:22 ah well gf calles Aug 03 23:48:28 figure it out later i guess **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 03 23:59:56 2005