**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 23:59:57 2005 Aug 09 00:38:54 Does anyone here uses GPE on Zaurus SL-6000 ? Aug 09 00:48:33 morning Aug 09 01:06:45 good morning all Aug 09 01:06:54 morning koen Aug 09 01:07:03 hey XorA Aug 09 01:08:32 so whats new this morning? Aug 09 01:14:50 morning all Aug 09 01:15:06 hey ade|desk Aug 09 01:15:08 hey ade|desk Aug 09 01:15:18 XorA: nothing new as far as I can see Aug 09 01:15:44 koen: you mean you havent ported oracle yet :-) Aug 09 01:16:18 :) Aug 09 01:16:51 a portable oracle server with Ciso router emulator, keep your whole lan on your PDA Aug 09 01:17:11 ooooh SAP on a pda ;) Aug 09 01:44:22 morning all Aug 09 01:44:27 hi RP Aug 09 01:44:51 XorA: Thanks for the testing - it eases my mind on a few issues :) Aug 09 01:45:14 XorA: What are the commands to use irda out of interest? I should really try and find a way to test it... Aug 09 01:45:52 In theory the hx2750 also has IR but I need to work out how to control it... Aug 09 01:47:34 RP: isn't hooked to the serial port too in the hx? Aug 09 01:47:37 RP: RNDIS, usbnet, irda all working Aug 09 01:47:57 RP: I use gpe and the Irda applet Aug 09 01:48:04 koen: Yes. The question is where the IR power controls are ;-) Aug 09 01:48:14 RP: I have no idea how to get it going from the command line Aug 09 01:48:31 XorA: RNDIS as well. That makes a full house, thanks :) Aug 09 01:48:55 RP: the RNDIS took me by surprise :-) Aug 09 01:49:51 XorA: Indeed. I could have sworn someone said it wasn't working... Aug 09 01:50:18 RP: it didnt work in previous mm version Aug 09 01:50:21 I think this kernel is going to be my recommended version now :) Aug 09 01:50:58 RP: if 3.5.4 uses this kernel then we need that hostap table or the ConnectPlus people will feel left out Aug 09 01:51:51 I can patch up hostap easily enough Aug 09 01:52:15 RP: at lunch time Ill probably give the kernel internal hostap a proper spin Aug 09 01:52:51 XorA: Sounds good :) Aug 09 01:53:02 XorA: where 'connect plus people' is you, mickeyl and me? Aug 09 01:53:29 XorA: Looks like it might be an idea to try and get the kernel orinoco driver up to speed as well to complete the set Aug 09 01:53:53 koen: and a load of people on zug, the ConnectPlus is dirt cheap at moment, hence why I got one Aug 09 01:56:23 now the day wireless + ide works we will rule the world :-) Aug 09 01:58:31 if bloody would include some form of wireless in their models Aug 09 01:58:46 instead of changing the paint and putting in a microdrive Aug 09 01:59:12 s/bloody/bloody sharp/ Aug 09 01:59:26 koen: I could kind of guess the context :) Aug 09 01:59:34 :) Aug 09 02:00:16 RP: mallum sent me to you with this question: "how well does x86 mmx code map to iwmmx?" Aug 09 02:01:09 koen: I never did get around to looking into that. I'd presume reasonably given Intel's involvement... Aug 09 02:01:25 Although I'd suspect one is only a subset of the other Aug 09 02:01:47 so the fbmmx code in kdrive could work Aug 09 02:01:52 It is supposed to be RISC after all... Aug 09 02:01:52 given the right compiler Aug 09 02:02:12 It will probably need to be written in arm assembler rather than intel... Aug 09 02:02:15 and the right ABI of course Aug 09 02:02:22 s/intel/x86/ Aug 09 02:02:40 Yes, the right ABI, compiler and processor :) Aug 09 02:03:07 I want EABI now, damnit! Aug 09 02:03:26 Don't we all :) Aug 09 02:03:33 koen: we dont really want sharp doing wireless :-) Aug 09 02:03:53 koen: you'd end up with another binary only driver and not prism2 based Aug 09 02:04:04 * RP shudders at the thought Aug 09 02:04:13 We'd have to reverse engineer that... Aug 09 02:04:22 and probably using the sound code or something Aug 09 02:04:24 *cough* conexant *cough* Aug 09 02:05:17 and kernel 2.0.1 Aug 09 02:05:52 I do wonder how long it will be before that take my work on 2.6 and turn it into something useful... Aug 09 02:06:06 Their difficulty will be adapting to the new userspace representations of all the hardware... Aug 09 02:06:25 XorA: let's install sound juicer on a z and rip some CDs ;) Aug 09 02:06:32 Although we know all the userspace is there... Aug 09 02:06:51 RP: their engineers are probably not allowed internet access Aug 09 02:07:12 XorA: My weblogs say otherwise ;-) Aug 09 02:07:22 At least for one of them... Aug 09 02:07:54 RP: cool Aug 09 02:08:10 RP: now if you could only write in japanese you could leave hints in the source code Aug 09 02:08:22 :) Aug 09 02:08:26 didn't do13[offline] get some hits from lineo? Aug 09 02:08:32 mornin' Aug 09 02:08:36 hey Twiun Aug 09 02:08:40 koen: Yes, that was what I was referring to... Aug 09 02:08:52 hi Twiun Aug 09 02:09:22 Anyhow, soon mainline will have complete support which will be hard to miss... Aug 09 02:09:42 * XorA wonders where atty.jp has disapeared to Aug 09 02:09:52 Once I force rmk into pushing his i2c driver and I sort out the power management mess Aug 09 02:10:07 and force rmk to push the irda driver... Aug 09 02:10:19 ~fishslap rmk Aug 09 02:10:19 * ibot slaps rmk up side the head with a wet fish. Aug 09 02:11:07 Still, SD is going in which makes up for it in a way... Aug 09 02:11:23 ooooh SD in mainline Aug 09 02:13:17 ibot: seen BigA1 Aug 09 02:13:18 Twiun: i haven't seen 'biga1' Aug 09 02:13:21 ibot: seen BigAl Aug 09 02:13:21 bigal <~bigal@dsl-202-45-99-179.ACT.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 6d 1h 5m 43s ago, saying: 'morning'. Aug 09 02:13:26 lol Aug 09 02:13:34 ... ok, I guess he's on holiday Aug 09 02:14:14 Twiun: I have seen him in here (yesterday I think) Aug 09 02:24:49 morning Aug 09 02:25:34 morning reenoo_ Aug 09 02:26:32 hi reenoo_ Aug 09 02:26:44 RP: 'k, thanks Aug 09 02:28:26 hey XorA Aug 09 02:28:29 yo Twiun Aug 09 02:56:10 monotone 0.22 is out Aug 09 02:56:34 fear Aug 09 02:56:48 --lca option to merge Aug 09 03:02:07 it feels faster with netsync Aug 09 03:02:28 but it could be the counters updating more frequently Aug 09 03:02:34 koen: no need to change server? Aug 09 03:02:58 dominion and ewi are running 0.22 now Aug 09 03:03:11 I think mickeyl will update vanille tonight Aug 09 03:03:31 my monotonerc was still working Aug 09 03:07:22 Hehe. Someone on hx4700-port asked rmk about mickeyl's serial hack patch :) Aug 09 03:07:47 heh Aug 09 03:08:38 'serial port naming' in combination with 'handhelds.org' will make RMKs bloodpressure rise exonentially Aug 09 03:09:24 the nslu2 people now have 128MB slugs Aug 09 03:10:02 is there hh.org/rmk history then? Aug 09 03:11:02 Indeed. "Wrong. It's complete crap. It may look like it solves the problem but it just papers over the problem" was the response. It is marked clearly as a hack so he is justified in those comments but it still can't have done his blood pressure any good... Aug 09 03:11:26 XorA: "history", partcularly on this issue is an understatement from what I gather :) Aug 09 03:11:57 XorA: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/flamewar.txt Aug 09 03:22:06 koen: And sadly the whole thing continues to rumble on today :-/ Aug 09 03:22:16 yep Aug 09 03:22:31 send patches to RMK and he will look in to it Aug 09 03:22:37 after hell freezes over Aug 09 03:23:12 koen: I'm half tempted to write a serial device number allocation function and send it :) Aug 09 03:25:17 hey BigAl Aug 09 03:44:43 hi all Aug 09 03:44:56 hey bluelightning Aug 09 03:45:05 hi koen Aug 09 03:48:09 03nslu2-linux 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r99c9e931... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Removed softdog from openslug-packages.conf - it don't exist, so why was it added in the first place? Aug 09 03:48:10 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r27ce3dcb... 10/classes/binconfig.bbclass: Aug 09 03:48:10 binconfig.bbclass: reinstantiate patch that solved appending -native slightly more elegant Aug 09 03:48:10 http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/diffs/classes/binconfig.bbclass@1.7?nav=index.html|src/.|src/classes|hist/classes/binconfig.bbclass Aug 09 03:51:38 koen: RP interesting, Ive got ide_cs and hostap_cs both recognising the COnnectPlus now, but once the wlan part is running ide_cs cant seem to read from flash Aug 09 03:54:04 maybe the ide interupts aren't getting through Aug 09 03:57:04 gah so close Aug 09 03:58:53 morning Aug 09 03:59:14 morning mickey|sick Aug 09 04:00:14 got a strong allergic reaction yesterday (against no-idea-what) and my whole body is full of blisters and itching :/ Aug 09 04:00:23 called in sick until friday Aug 09 04:04:00 BigAl: ping Aug 09 04:04:08 mickey|sick: urgh, sounds icky Aug 09 04:04:32 yep. couldn't get sleep because laying down in bed was impossible Aug 09 04:04:40 so i fixed some more e things instead... Aug 09 04:06:35 * koen suspects where the allergic reaction came from: E Aug 09 04:06:56 heh Aug 09 04:07:56 gah, so close to working ConnectPlus :-( Aug 09 04:08:12 what's missing? Aug 09 04:08:29 mickey|sick: something in wifi setup b0rks the ide Aug 09 04:08:37 12:51 < XorA> koen: RP interesting, Ive got ide_cs and hostap_cs both recognising the COnnectPlus now, but once the wlan part is Aug 09 04:08:40 running ide_cs cant seem to read from flash Aug 09 04:09:20 ah. so you're still trying to get both to work synchronously? Aug 09 04:09:30 mickey|sick: yes Aug 09 04:09:42 http://www.dsitri.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=95 has a hint Aug 09 04:10:02 http://www.dsitri.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=97&start=0& says its possible Aug 09 04:18:48 hi all Aug 09 04:19:02 hey startoe Aug 09 04:21:54 Has the fix to Bug #183 been built into the latest repository? Aug 09 04:29:28 XorA: What did you have to do to get it recognised by both? Aug 09 04:29:50 RP: in kernel ide_cs, in kernel hostap, remove pcmcia-cs Aug 09 04:31:22 XorA: The death of pcmcia draws closer :) Aug 09 04:38:10 just done a GPRS dialup from 2.6.13-blah on Irda Aug 09 04:38:46 koen: 1940 has also own conf file Aug 09 04:39:05 aquadran: h1940 uses a samsung cpu iirc Aug 09 04:39:37 your tune and kernel arguments don't make sense Aug 09 04:41:49 koen: kernel image can not be in distro build. tuning compilation for xscale maybe it's not important, but why keep it to strongarm Aug 09 04:41:51 koen: aquadran is working on h1910, not h1940 Aug 09 04:42:05 pb_: I know Aug 09 04:42:10 13:38 < aquadran> koen: 1940 has also own conf file Aug 09 04:42:24 re Aug 09 04:42:27 so, what was your point about the samsung cpu? Aug 09 04:42:28 hey zecke_ Aug 09 04:42:30 hail zecke_ Aug 09 04:42:50 pb_: aquadran said the 1940 has it's own config file Aug 09 04:43:41 pb_: koen suggest me reuse 3900, but it doesn't match h1910, a716 needs Aug 09 04:43:50 I'd like to know if it's technically possible to reuse the h3900 file Aug 09 04:44:06 no, the flash layout is different. Aug 09 04:44:20 yeah, that's the only argument against it Aug 09 04:45:12 it might make sense to include h3900.conf and then just override the flash parameters, though. Aug 09 04:45:41 on the other hand, h3900.conf includes a pile of stuff that the h1910 doesn't want, and if the images are going to be separate anyway you might as well leave that out. Aug 09 04:45:48 koen: how about customisation in other packages ? Aug 09 04:45:52 so, on balance, I think having a distinct config file is probably the right answer. Aug 09 04:46:04 aquadran: such customisation is, generally speaking, undesirable. Aug 09 04:46:24 the a716 cas use the h3900 by the looks of it Aug 09 04:50:20 pb_: do we encourage overrinding TARGET_CC parameters in a machine file? Aug 09 04:50:36 overriding* Aug 09 04:50:48 shouldn't the tune-*.conf take care of that? Aug 09 04:51:43 koen: for a716 i would like not use specific for ipaq packages Aug 09 04:53:25 pb_: there are some customisation for ipaq in qte, and few other minor places Aug 09 04:53:51 aquadran: what ipaq packages? Aug 09 04:54:09 afaik it only includes a /boot/params Aug 09 04:54:24 Twiun: Pong. Aug 09 04:54:33 koen: yes, and ipaq kernel modules Aug 09 04:54:55 so? Aug 09 04:55:06 h3900 gets used on a lot of machines Aug 09 04:55:25 h39xx, h5xxx, h2xxx, h4xxx Aug 09 04:55:36 it's waste of space Aug 09 04:56:20 I'd rather waste 100k of flash than to have even more duplicated machines Aug 09 04:56:45 RP: the pcmciautils stuff seems to need some tlc, its looking for a /etc/init.d/coldplug file Aug 09 04:56:45 and waste space, bandwidth and cpu time on the buildserver Aug 09 04:57:20 koen: ok, i agree with that. but there are some customised packages depend on MACHINE def Aug 09 04:58:04 BigAl: I love that card Aug 09 04:58:20 aquadran: the only serious one is tslib, but that shouldn't be a problem Aug 09 04:58:30 aquadran: the qt/e thing is unfortunate, but seems to be unavoidable. aiui, it is actually the same for all ipaqs. Aug 09 04:58:48 aquadran: if there are other machine-specific packages, we should strive to eliminate them. Aug 09 04:58:56 hi jamey Aug 09 04:59:13 the 'ipaq' patch to qt/e is a bit of a misnomen though Aug 09 04:59:46 pb_: i'm not sure about matchbox-panel customise, --small-icons what that switch do ? Aug 09 05:00:12 it doesn't include big icons in the .ipkg Aug 09 05:01:13 aquadran: ah, yeah, that one is also unfortunate but unavoidable. Ideally, matchbox should be patched to make the icon selection a run-time thing. Aug 09 05:01:54 it is a runtime thing Aug 09 05:02:18 oh, right. it didn't use to be. in that case, that stuff can (and should) go away. Aug 09 05:02:20 --small-icons just stops make install from putting a load of extra icons in /usr/share Aug 09 05:02:28 hi pb_ Aug 09 05:03:27 aquadran: seen my statement to the tslib problem? Aug 09 05:03:32 pb_: I couldn't figure out how to make it depends on the bigscreen/smallscreen thing Aug 09 05:03:48 koen: at it to the OVERRIDES variable Aug 09 05:03:59 koen: put the big icons in a matchbox-big-icons package, and have meta-gpe.bb call it in for the bigscreen configuration. Aug 09 05:06:03 zecke_: no Aug 09 05:06:19 aquadran: in the bug tracker Aug 09 05:06:28 zecke_: i'll look Aug 09 05:08:48 zecke_: bug 121 ? Aug 09 05:10:49 yes Aug 09 05:11:09 god I'm rude :} Aug 09 05:14:46 Twiun: Working great? Aug 09 05:15:25 BigAl: superb, no need for pppd either, drivers installed flawlessly Aug 09 05:16:50 Excellent. Aug 09 05:18:06 Hi all Aug 09 05:19:59 hey do13 Aug 09 05:20:17 zecke_: btw. detect-stylus can not be used with opie it's linked into X libs. (at least in default distro) Aug 09 05:20:26 hi dirk Aug 09 05:23:29 hi RP, koen Aug 09 05:23:52 aquadran: remove the last 20 lines from detect-stylus.c Aug 09 05:24:17 koen: why does it use X? Aug 09 05:24:26 koen: or better for what? Aug 09 05:24:33 koen: customisation ? :) Aug 09 05:24:42 zecke_: for xcursor or xcalibrate or something Aug 09 05:25:07 zecke_: pb_ it the ts meister Aug 09 05:26:50 koen: so how it'll would be with machine configs ? Aug 09 05:28:39 h1910.conf and h3900.conf would be the Aug 09 05:28:50 optimal solution Aug 09 05:30:13 koen: h1910 include h3900 you mean ? Aug 09 05:33:09 XorA: I've not tried pcmciautils yet... Aug 09 05:34:57 aquadran: if you want, but with 16MB flash you'll probably end up overriding most of h3900.conf Aug 09 05:36:56 koen: if independed h1910.conf will be ok. it would be more cleaner then override h3900 defines Aug 09 05:37:41 koen: i mean if ok for you Aug 09 05:37:57 i keep forgetting that the h1910 is rather 'limited' Aug 09 05:38:38 koen: no wifi, no bluetooth, no cf Aug 09 05:38:48 on 16MB of flash Aug 09 05:38:54 only* Aug 09 05:40:58 koen: thought asus 716 could have all stuff compiled and more, it has 64MB nand(currently not supported) Aug 09 05:42:39 koen: so for a716 you preffer keep as h3900 build ? Aug 09 05:42:53 yes Aug 09 05:54:08 koen: i have question related to pcmcia-cs. while patching sources it tries to find kernel sources because 'module-base' is defined in 'inherit' define. this package can be build without kernel sources. kernel image i build seperately for now. Aug 09 05:54:22 koen: can be 'module-base' removed ? Aug 09 05:54:43 koen: i mean if it really needed for build package Aug 09 05:54:54 koen: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307646 Aug 09 05:55:05 koen: without it builds fine Aug 09 05:55:33 zecke_: historical reasons Aug 09 05:55:56 pb_: history is good ;) Aug 09 05:56:34 anyway I hate the current way of handling devices... Aug 09 05:58:50 zecke_: I noticed that earlier on p.g.o, can it be easily integrated with our tinderbox? Aug 09 05:59:23 koen: probably not, it is patch to jbuild to generate atoms Aug 09 05:59:31 koen: it is not mozilla tinderbox Aug 09 06:00:03 hmmm Aug 09 06:06:19 koen: so you'll add h1910.conf, or i should keep it localy for now ? Aug 09 06:08:31 attach h1910.conf to bugzilla (without all the CC stuff, tune-xscale should do that) and I'll add it Aug 09 06:18:15 RP: bad news on 2.6.13 hostap, once you eject a card, it stops working Aug 09 06:26:51 XorA: Rats :-( Aug 09 06:27:21 XorA: Just with your Connectplus or with others as well? Aug 09 06:28:51 RP: I only have connect+ Aug 09 06:29:55 XorA: Ok, I can test with my hostap card. I suspect its a Connectplus issue... Aug 09 06:30:44 RP: Ill ave to come up with better way of testing kernels Aug 09 06:30:50 RP: or find a second Z :-) Aug 09 06:38:23 zecke: wb Aug 09 06:39:46 is there a CF card with BT and 802.11b Aug 09 06:40:12 ade|desk: you would have thought that would be an obvious card seeing as the radios can be identical Aug 09 06:42:04 wouldn't that interfere with eachother? Aug 09 06:42:28 koen: I was thinking switchable, because I think they would Aug 09 07:08:08 mornin Aug 09 07:08:16 hey treke Aug 09 07:14:30 XorA: Two Zs are useful but also twice the trouble ;-) Aug 09 07:15:46 RP: well I like using my Z and hate it when I break it :-) Aug 09 07:17:06 pb_: did you ever work with the backtrace support of glibc? Aug 09 07:17:40 pb_: can I link to libiberty to do what addr2line does? Actually I would like to have names of the method as well Aug 09 07:22:35 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r4244fcc1... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig): Enabled MULTI_LUN in openslug kernel. Aug 09 07:34:37 hi all Aug 09 07:35:05 hello Aug 09 07:53:08 hello. Simpad image built first time on my laptop, got to wait till i get home to see if it works tho ;), Aug 09 07:59:14 koen: so what about customisation h1910 in matchbox-panel ? and gpe-session-scripts support for h1915 and asus 716 ? Aug 09 08:12:48 they're writing up the job offer. Aug 09 08:19:24 kergoth: congrats! Aug 09 08:20:12 what will you be doing? Aug 09 08:20:23 userspace coding on a network appliance running linux Aug 09 08:22:57 cool Aug 09 08:23:15 should be a change of pace from the last position at ti, maybe i wont despise it Aug 09 08:23:35 gonna convert them to OE? Aug 09 08:24:09 I need to flash my slug with openslug .... Aug 09 08:24:09 long term, most likely Aug 09 08:26:11 hmmm. this palm doesnt like my sd card Aug 09 08:27:04 Crofton: you have a slug now? cool Aug 09 08:27:09 * kergoth 's outta the loop Aug 09 08:28:00 yeah, just got it from ebay Aug 09 08:28:21 I want to see if I can make it into a wireless webcam Aug 09 08:28:36 run motion on the slug and store files on remote server Aug 09 08:28:54 it is a very low priority taks though Aug 09 08:30:30 kergoth: you are maintainer of tslib in OE ? Aug 09 08:30:54 aquadran: i'm maintainer of tslib itself and tslib in oe both. whats up? Aug 09 08:35:22 kergoth: i have patch for linearisation plugin raw support for ipaq 1915 and asus 716. both are not 100% enought, but much better than nothing and they are temporary support until i don't reverse-enginering linearisation algo from wince driver. Aug 09 08:36:03 kergoth: right now i'm testing again *.bb changes. http://omega.xtr.net.pl/misc/oe/tslib.diff Aug 09 08:36:06 k, so they should go into the oe build, but not upstream tslib yet Aug 09 08:37:22 kergoth: yes, changes for plugin are as patch for sources in OE Aug 09 08:37:31 * kergoth nods Aug 09 08:38:03 kergoth: look into patch Aug 09 08:43:48 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rae45cb19... 10/packages/altboot/files/ (6 files in 4 dirs): altboot: Lots and lots of Spitz adjustments, courtesy of JustinP Aug 09 08:43:52 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r1e9c70e4... 10/packages/linux/openzaurus-pxa27x-2.4.20-rmk2-embedix20050228/ (defconfig-akita defconfig-spitz): Akita & Spitz: Enable nfsd kernel module (unb0rks nfs-utils / nfs-server) Aug 09 08:43:56 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r8ba28b39... 10/packages/altboot/altboot.bb: altboot: bump PR Aug 09 09:11:40 And tinderbox gurus around? Aug 09 09:14:40 * koen looks at zecke Aug 09 09:15:30 I'm just wondering where you got the l33t tinderbox with the CGI interface Aug 09 09:15:50 only took an hour Aug 09 09:15:54 afaik it's tinderbox2 from mozilla Aug 09 09:16:11 cool - i didn't know tb2 that that functionality Aug 09 09:16:15 * CosmicPenguin dls Aug 09 09:16:18 with some 1337 zecke mods Aug 09 09:16:18 but my sd card now works in the treo Aug 09 09:16:51 * CosmicPenguin throws rocks at zecke Aug 09 09:25:54 morning Aug 09 09:26:56 hey JustinP Aug 09 09:27:17 JustinP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221 Aug 09 09:28:09 yes, I got the e-mail Aug 09 09:28:11 :-) Aug 09 09:28:21 I'd be glad to do it Aug 09 09:29:57 excellent. please send koen or me a key with justinp@openembedded.org as keyID Aug 09 09:30:13 s/or/and/ Aug 09 09:30:34 whee ... well monotone finished ... finally Aug 09 09:30:58 EVAS BENCH: 0.351 (Akita softfloat) Aug 09 09:31:16 ahem, wrong channel :) Aug 09 09:31:43 nah Aug 09 09:31:55 efl doesnt have an embedded channel Aug 09 09:32:08 emte: not you, me Aug 09 09:32:12 mickeyl/koen@openembedded.org? Aug 09 09:32:23 yeah i know Aug 09 09:32:37 mickeyl/koen@handhelds.org Aug 09 09:32:43 ah, thanks Aug 09 09:34:10 yeah, i agree JustinP will probably be a better maintainer than i ... he mangles less with bad voodoo Aug 09 09:34:33 emte: do I? I thought I'd done a lot of horrible hacks in there... Aug 09 09:34:55 nah, i did a lot of stuff i wasnt supposed to do Aug 09 09:35:03 well, some at least. Knowing next to nothing about the tools I tend to try to fix with a sed one-liner.... Aug 09 09:35:06 ok Aug 09 09:35:16 including putting raster as the maintainer for some (even though he wrote them) Aug 09 09:35:19 * CoreDump|home hugs sed Aug 09 09:35:23 sed oneliners rule! Aug 09 09:35:40 I haven't been paying too much attention to detail, though...I need to make sure my licenses and such are correct Aug 09 09:35:59 yeah ... thats a odd area Aug 09 09:36:13 efl doesnt have a standard license Aug 09 09:36:42 i forget what i eventually put Aug 09 09:36:49 wonderful....what *does* it use? Aug 09 09:37:16 sec i'll look but i think its bsd/mit+x11 or soemthing liek that Aug 09 09:37:39 * koen hints at COPYING and LICENSE files Aug 09 09:38:19 koen, it doesnt help Aug 09 09:38:28 looks liek i settled on BSD Aug 09 09:38:55 emte: the license should be in the source package Aug 09 09:39:04 otherwise I can relicense it at will Aug 09 09:39:07 its there but not really identifiable Aug 09 09:39:27 as i stated its a BSD+x11 hybrid Aug 09 09:39:53 hmmm Aug 09 09:40:01 koen, mickey|sick: key sent Aug 09 09:41:09 JustinP: key added to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl Aug 09 09:42:17 http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/enlightenment/e17/libs/ecore/COPYING?view=markup Aug 09 09:42:52 JustinP: it'll take me the next day to complete my work on a common EFL base class but after that, the files are all yours :) Aug 09 09:42:52 18:37 * koen hints at COPYING and LICENSE files Aug 09 09:42:55 like I said Aug 09 09:43:08 if you want to read and try to figure it out Aug 09 09:43:09 koen: relicense it at will? the license is the only thing giving you _any_ rights to the code at all. if no license is specified, and you dont hold the copyright, you have no rights at all. Aug 09 09:43:22 i think i got raster to suggest BSD for the sake of BB Aug 09 09:43:23 heh Aug 09 09:43:46 kergoth: a, forgot about that Aug 09 09:44:20 kergoth: but not every country knows copyright (iran for example) Aug 09 09:44:24 * kergoth nods Aug 09 09:44:26 mickey|sick: ok. Let me know when you've got it done. I haven't really looked into the classes yet, so I'll need to look it over and figure out how it all works. Aug 09 09:44:35 JustinP: *nod* Aug 09 09:44:47 ... Aug 09 09:44:54 http://www.trolltech.com/video/qt4dance.html Aug 09 09:45:20 that tune will get stuck in your head Aug 09 09:45:26 you have been warned :) Aug 09 09:45:37 so koen which license does taht look like to you? might as well change it to a more suitable description if it needs to be Aug 09 09:46:40 treke: please .... Aug 09 09:46:52 it scares me Aug 09 09:57:46 reminds me i guess i need to decide on one for biohazard ... Aug 09 09:57:56 maybe i'll just use artistic Aug 09 10:04:56 btw i may have a painting for sale soon (speaking of artistic) Aug 09 10:07:37 my older ones tend to scare people :( Aug 09 10:10:42 emte: cool. How do you sell your paintings? My wife paints but hasn't actually gotten around to trying to sell anything yet. Aug 09 10:11:26 me, privately ... i havent gotten up enough peices to do a gallery show with my aunt Aug 09 10:11:40 ah Aug 09 10:11:46 she does shows, has some prints, etc made Aug 09 10:11:51 :-) Aug 09 10:11:58 mostly it depends on the images and types Aug 09 10:12:11 hey guys, what's the proper process for submitting a new bb file (it is a new version of an existing package)? mailing list, bug tracker? Aug 09 10:12:29 attach it to bugzilla Aug 09 10:12:34 that way it won't get lost Aug 09 10:13:00 koen: ok will do, thanks Aug 09 10:14:07 hmm Aug 09 10:14:18 i cant find my aunt's web site ... Aug 09 10:17:11 bbiab, need to go to the vet and take my gf to work Aug 09 10:19:03 * CosmicPenguin giggles Aug 09 10:26:04 * JustinP snickers Aug 09 10:37:49 * CosmicPenguin closes his eyes and tries a tinderbox build Aug 09 10:48:23 aquadran: the h1910 in bugzilla was wrong (it will crash a recent bitbake) so I adjusted it Aug 09 10:49:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r57544e3b... 10/conf/machine/h1910.conf: Add slightly adjusted h1910.conf Aug 09 10:49:30 koen: heh, really ? :) Aug 09 10:49:40 yes Aug 09 10:49:46 take a look at h3900.conf Aug 09 10:49:53 a *recent* h3900.conf Aug 09 10:50:28 OVERRIDER_prepend should exist anymore Aug 09 11:05:55 koen: it doesn't crashed here. maybe becouse i don't have really *recent* tree Aug 09 11:06:08 aargh Aug 09 11:06:15 only submit patches against a recent tree Aug 09 11:07:54 koen: it worked yesterday fine Aug 09 11:08:02 only submit patches against a recent tree Aug 09 11:11:03