**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 16 02:59:56 2005 Aug 16 03:00:31 RP: http://hentges.net/tmp/SL-C1000-PCB.tar.gz Aug 16 03:04:26 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd55fb215... 10/packages/gqview/gqview_2.1.1.bb: gqview: add some RRECOMMENDS for some gdk-pixbuf-loaders Aug 16 03:16:53 XorA: i am unable to make gqview to work for me. it is not listing any files. lists only directories. i think it is able to locate the loaders (i dont get any messages from console now). Aug 16 03:17:18 does gqview require any libraries to list the files ?. or is the problem somewhere else ? Aug 16 03:18:50 eJumbo: try installing gnome-mime-data Aug 16 03:21:59 koen: I have no gnome-mime-data and gqview is working Aug 16 03:22:18 maybe gqview just has a bug on eJumbo's arch Aug 16 03:23:02 could be Aug 16 03:28:17 i am using osk 5912 Aug 16 03:28:31 do u recommend any other image viewer Aug 16 03:28:46 eJumbo: means nothing to me Aug 16 03:43:52 Good morning Aug 16 03:52:31 Hi koen: do you know by any chance where I can find the latest working SD boot image for the 2200 ? Thank you Aug 16 03:54:07 JustinP|zZz: I'll work on a "GPE .desktop to E .eap" converter, so E can easily use GPE's size-optimized programs. Any comments? Aug 16 03:54:32 * CoreDump|home heads to work Aug 16 04:04:24 oho: ir mreimers homedir I guess Aug 16 04:04:47 CoreDump|afk: gpe .desktop is the same as fdo .desktop Aug 16 04:06:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r74aa93fe... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: GPE 2.7: tie down glib-2.0 and cairo, update gpe-taskmanager Aug 16 04:09:38 XorA: gqview is working on my image. i am able to see pictues in thumnails. but when i click on them nothing happens ? Aug 16 04:09:43 XorA: gqview is working on my image. i am able to see pictues in thumnails. but when i click on them nothing happens ? Aug 16 04:12:57 eJumbo: slowly getting there then Aug 16 04:26:07 CoreDump|afk: thanks for the images Aug 16 04:26:30 CoreDump|afk: I can't find the i2c chip though :-( Aug 16 04:27:19 CoreDump|afk: Just to confirm, there are no chips under that foam where the 2nd microdrive would be? - If there were you could feel them without removing it Aug 16 04:29:11 RP: there are some pics of the 1000 on the forums, I think. Aug 16 04:29:36 do you want me to try to trace them? I can't open mine here (at work, no tools), but can try to locate those pics Aug 16 04:29:51 03dyoung 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r9b9b986b... 10/packages/linux/ (unslung-kernel/defconfig unslung-kernel_2.4.22.l2.3r29.bb): really added the missing netfilter stuff Aug 16 04:29:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfb347ec0... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: GPE 2.7: update gpe-gallery Aug 16 04:30:38 Bernardo|lunch: I have the ones of the C3000 microdrive replacement compared to the c1000... Aug 16 04:30:49 pH5: if you want commit access to OE send mickeyl and me a ph5@openembedded.org monotone key Aug 16 04:31:23 Bernardo|lunch: CoreDump|afk has given me some pictures but I can't see the chip. This could mean its part of something else and is a virtual entity... Aug 16 04:34:43 ok... I have to run now, I'll bne back in a couple of hours. Maybe tonight I can open mine and help you if CoreDump|afk doesn't before Aug 16 04:36:26 Bernardo|lunch: Ok, thanks. I'm not sure its worth the risk of opening any further devices given it looks like its a virutal thing but I'll have a think :) Aug 16 04:41:15 XorA: when i click on the thumbnails; nothing happens - i dont get any messages on the console. Aug 16 04:42:02 does that depend on the canvas size ? Aug 16 04:45:12 eJumbo: dont have a clue Aug 16 04:49:52 ok. in ur setup; when u click on a thumbnail picture. do u get a picture which is bigger ? Aug 16 04:50:00 eJumbo: yes Aug 16 04:50:28 in my case. nothing happens and i dont get any messages Aug 16 04:50:36 03dyoung 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r701e7a08... 10/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel/2.6.12/nslu2-setup.c: Add 2nd serial port support. It is a RX only port, but useful for things like GPSs Aug 16 04:50:40 03dyoung 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r2457ce39... 10/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb: Bump the PR Aug 16 04:51:28 Interesting - suspend/resume already works on 2.6 spitz *if* you don't have the charger connected as you boot Aug 16 04:51:57 RP: lucky break :-) Aug 16 05:01:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rab25bcd6... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: GPE 2.7: update gpe-soundbit Aug 16 05:03:53 XorA: when i click on a thumnail i get the messages in debug mode. Aug 16 05:03:55 please see http://pastebin.ca/20154 Aug 16 05:06:25 RP: one hypothetical question. If you would be lent a SL6000 for some months... would you be interested in moving 2.6 for it forwards? Aug 16 05:07:32 eJumbo: those messages dont tell me much, os the osk using softfloat or CSL arm compiler? Aug 16 05:08:45 mickeyl: /dev/mmcblk0p1 239.2M 111.2M 115.8M 49% / Aug 16 05:08:51 mickeyl: with no pivoting Aug 16 05:11:41 XorA: woot Aug 16 05:11:43 pretty cool Aug 16 05:14:08 how did that work? Aug 16 05:14:14 just specifying on CMDLINE Aug 16 05:14:15 ? Aug 16 05:14:20 in, even Aug 16 05:14:25 mickeyl: as simple as putting root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 in kernel .bb Aug 16 05:15:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rde31bae9... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: GPE 2.7: update gpe-tetris Aug 16 05:16:50 mickeyl: oh and fixing the fstab Aug 16 05:17:52 exciting possibilities Aug 16 05:18:09 mickeyl: yeah, I wanted to do this, so cutting edge is on SD card, known working is in flash Aug 16 05:18:28 XorA: no the only problem is that it needs a kernel reflash to change Aug 16 05:18:31 s/no/now/ Aug 16 05:18:49 XorA: we can patch the kernel to look for more than one root device Aug 16 05:18:50 mickeyl: yeah, without a bootloader hack Aug 16 05:18:54 fix it sharpstyle: binary patches Aug 16 05:19:12 mickeyl: now that would be interesting, if SD is present use that otherwise boot internal Aug 16 05:19:23 XorA: exactly. IIRC this is a dead simple hack Aug 16 05:19:28 * mickeyl once did that Aug 16 05:19:30 mickeyl: or CF IDE as thats now in kernel Aug 16 05:19:56 mickeyl: I'm not sure about the SL-6000 - I think I have enough kernel projects to be going on with to be honest :-/ Aug 16 05:20:21 mickeyl: Bad news regarding the CF device ordering on spitz btw - we can't change the slot numbers around easily Aug 16 05:21:58 mickeyl: ANd the kernel devs response is to use udev which I'm not sure solves our problem... Aug 16 05:22:14 Or not in the boot from microdrive case I'd aiming for Aug 16 05:25:31 bummer. well then we will workaround that from userland Aug 16 05:25:59 mickeyl: Can we do that in the direct boot from microdrive case? Aug 16 05:26:47 what do you mean with "direct"? Aug 16 05:27:05 my plan was to use a bootmanager on all devices eventually Aug 16 05:27:07 mickeyl: I mean flash a kernel with root=/dev/hda1 as the commandline Aug 16 05:27:13 hmm Aug 16 05:27:36 mickeyl: you have mail Aug 16 05:27:51 got it. thanks Aug 16 05:27:51 RP: why not root=/dev/hdb1 if slots are not switchable Aug 16 05:28:22 XorA: because hda can be slot 0 or slot 1 depending on whether you have a memory card in slot 0... Aug 16 05:28:31 ~lart sharp Aug 16 05:28:31 * ibot executes killall -KILL sharp Aug 16 05:28:46 in the old devfs days you could select the ide port Aug 16 05:29:05 but nooooo, udev is much better Aug 16 05:29:07 RP: ah I see and without udev in initramfs you cant solve that :-( Aug 16 05:29:12 so you can't do that anymore Aug 16 05:29:15 ~lart udev Aug 16 05:29:16 * ibot beats udev senseless with a 50lb Unix manual Aug 16 05:29:47 I had one of those once. Aug 16 05:31:39 RP: you can do it with disk labels Aug 16 05:32:14 RP: if I remeber correctly, root= can be a label name as well Aug 16 05:32:52 that'd work Aug 16 05:33:04 we could enhance the updater.sh to give labels to the spitz drivers Aug 16 05:33:10 volumes, even Aug 16 05:33:34 then again, I'm not so sure if direct booting from HD is that much a valuable goal Aug 16 05:33:53 using altboot seems to be pretty good to me Aug 16 05:34:14 mickeyl: It just means we can get rid of all the pivot root stuff and just have one image Aug 16 05:34:27 disk labels looks to be the way to go Aug 16 05:34:33 mickeyl: evas-fb frontend for altboot Aug 16 05:34:41 koen: you read my mind? Aug 16 05:34:43 * mickeyl big grin Aug 16 05:34:46 RP: true enough Aug 16 05:34:47 :D Aug 16 05:35:28 koen: do you have a good gpe screeny for OOO? Aug 16 05:36:16 I think so Aug 16 05:39:30 http://handhelds.org/~gpe/albums/portedapps/land_6812.png http://handhelds.org/~gpe/albums/portedapps/land_22637.png http://handhelds.org/~gpe/albums/Applications/contacts.png Aug 16 05:39:36 2 gpe, on maemo/gpe Aug 16 05:40:05 ok, thanks Aug 16 05:41:39 * mickeyl wanders home Aug 16 05:45:08 afternoon Aug 16 06:37:42 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbc8ebabb... 10/packages/nonworking/ (emotion/emotion_cvs.bb esmart/esmart_cvs.bb): remove nonworking versions of emotion and esmart Aug 16 06:49:11 hi all Aug 16 06:49:21 hey startoe Aug 16 06:50:18 I am having a problem with pcmcia-cs-3.2.8 and trying to update it to 3.2.9. Can anyone tell me where to get the update? Aug 16 06:55:41 "get" ? Aug 16 06:55:49 pcmcia-cs in OE is @ version 3.2.9 Aug 16 06:55:50 no Aug 16 06:55:52 3.2.8 Aug 16 06:55:57 do you want to upgrade it? Aug 16 06:56:28 the natural process is increase the PV and then adjust the patches (if they fail to apply) and then test Aug 16 06:56:36 if it works, submit the new stuff to the bugtracker Aug 16 06:59:23 do I need to create a new bb file for 3.2.9 ? Aug 16 06:59:31 yes Aug 16 07:00:03 if all patches still apply then you the final patch might be just a rename Aug 16 07:00:12 but until this is verified, it's best to cp the file Aug 16 07:00:42 yes let me try Aug 16 07:01:35 do I copy all the patch files from 3.2.8 too? Aug 16 07:01:41 into 3.2.9? Aug 16 07:01:43 yep Aug 16 07:01:47 okay clear Aug 16 07:03:27 mickeyl: are you going to submit the OOO link to linuxdevices? Aug 16 07:03:35 will do Aug 16 07:08:38 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r3b1f1bca... 10/packages/mozilla/ (3 files in 2 dirs): thunderbird: added version 1.0.6 of thunderbird Aug 16 07:13:41 Howdy! Aug 16 07:21:59 hey Laibsch Aug 16 07:22:13 pH5: key added to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl Aug 16 07:23:21 koen: thanks Aug 16 07:24:59 pH5: and make a hardcopy of your private key Aug 16 07:27:02 :-) Aug 16 08:05:54 heh - almost typed ipkg install on my gentoo box.. :) Aug 16 08:09:25 * RP makes spitz bootdirectly from the microdrive without pivotroot and without pcmcia-cs :) Aug 16 08:09:57 and with slot 1 appearing as slot 0 with a memory card in slot 0. That bit is just hacked though. Its a one line hack... Aug 16 08:11:04 Hi, I would like to build some .bb files my self and debug an existing one (gpsd). All the info I found on the web is from http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/bb_20file - is there a source which can tell me a bit more, i.e. about the scripting language used ? And what happens behind the scene ? Thanks Aug 16 08:12:19 oho: You want to look at the bitbake manual to see more about how the scripting works. Learning by example from other .bb files is also useful Aug 16 08:13:07 oho: Setting up a working openembedded environment would probably be the best thing to do initally Aug 16 08:14:05 RP: I have set up the oe environment already Aug 16 08:14:15 RP: I will look at the manual now... Aug 16 08:30:22 I have two packages A and B and package B needs to include some headers from package A. I have to install the headers from A to STAGING_INCDIR and include them in package B? Aug 16 08:31:51 malfi: yes Aug 16 08:32:05 copying the to staging should do the trick Aug 16 08:32:20 where copying is 'install -m 644' Aug 16 08:32:47 koen: okay, thanks Aug 16 08:44:41 RP: excellent. please commit that, I'm lusting to check it out Aug 16 08:45:00 s/lusting/longing/ Aug 16 08:48:59 RP: I looked at the bitbake manual, but that also doesn't give much inside. I will look at some examples - are there any .bb files which are really well commented ? Aug 16 08:49:49 sweetness: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/27/2768.html Aug 16 08:52:37 pretty cool Aug 16 08:53:48 careful Aug 16 08:55:49 Consumer Electronics..... Aug 16 08:55:59 that's toasters and stuff, right? Aug 16 08:58:01 heh Aug 16 08:58:04 PDAs and stuff Aug 16 08:58:24 The leader of CELF is from Sony Aug 16 08:59:00 mickeyl: Its surprisingly simple - a one line hack :) Aug 16 08:59:47 Actually, there are three lines involved. Only one is a hack :) Aug 16 09:03:57 <_law_> is OE (monotone.vanille.de) down? Aug 16 09:04:33 mickeyl: do you want any subdomains on openembedded.org created, for the source control or anything? Aug 16 09:04:55 _law_: I can't get it to work either. I've switched to the backup... Aug 16 09:05:29 mickeyl: could do a dns round robin between the monotone servers or something Aug 16 09:06:35 koen: if this http://pastebin.ca/20170 is okay, I would file a new bug for it, what do you think? Aug 16 09:08:13 kergoth: yep, good idea. i'd like to have monotone.oe.org and doc.oe.org Aug 16 09:10:13 for pull access only I take it? I'm a bit worried that might lead to tricky merging situations... Aug 16 09:10:17 CoreDump|afk: sounds great. It should really be very simple. Parse out the lines from the .desktop and feed them to e_util_eap_edit :-) Aug 16 09:11:25 reenoo: no, for everything. it has always been my plan to have monotone.openembedded.org. monotone.vanille.de was just an interrim solution to get us being able to work. Although some people *cough* had some conspiracy theories about me offering that server on my site *sigh* Aug 16 09:12:54 reenoo: well. I was referring to the round robin part Aug 16 09:12:58 err Aug 16 09:13:12 mickeyl: well. I was referring to the round robin part Aug 16 09:13:45 ah. well i'd like to shut down my server down whenever possible, so we would still have only two servers Aug 16 09:16:01 first of all having one address resolve to varying machines is always tricky for anything doing key verification Aug 16 09:16:14 I don't think monotone will like that Aug 16 09:16:49 mickeyl: I've pushed those changes to ewi546. I can't connect to mt.vanille.de Aug 16 09:17:28 thanks Aug 16 09:17:34 * mickeyl kicks 141.2.14.64 Aug 16 09:17:53 mickeyl: secondly, the worst merging chaos so far occurred when people switched between mt.vanille.de and ewi546 Aug 16 09:18:11 mickeyl: switched randomly that is Aug 16 09:18:32 mickeyl: which is about the same as a dns round robin if I'm not mistaken Aug 16 09:18:51 pretty much Aug 16 09:18:59 yah, guess monotone is too flakey to do a dns round robin Aug 16 09:19:18 the real problem is key auth, as reenoo pointed out Aug 16 09:19:49 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * raa49e2ce... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-rc5-mm1.bb: Alter the pcmcia socket init order on spitz to try and guarantee microdrive=/dev/hda. Add some device ids and alter some init levels so root=/dev/hda1 will boot directly to the microdrive (no pivot boot). Aug 16 09:20:10 ~praise RP Aug 16 09:20:11 All hail RP! Aug 16 09:21:36 RP: nice :-) Aug 16 09:22:31 mickeyl: have you checked out my latest e commits? :-) They should make things a bit more usable. Entrance still may not work without GPE but I'm getting closer. Aug 16 09:23:02 mickeyl: entrance still has some crashing issues if you click the "Default" button and try to select anything else...not sure why, it didn't have that problem when I first compiled it. Aug 16 09:23:15 mickeyl: but it only crashes once...then next time it works again Aug 16 09:27:33 excellent. i've been pretty busy the last days, but I will inspect the current status later tonite Aug 16 09:28:04 at first i need to flash kernel 2.6 though - which is even more exciting ;) Aug 16 09:28:06 mickeyl: thanks for removing those old versions of emotion and esmart...I must have missed those Aug 16 09:28:10 np Aug 16 09:28:20 I haven't tried the 2.6 kernel yet Aug 16 09:28:30 I figure my time is better spent ATM getting E working right Aug 16 09:28:32 bitbake still fails even though I did a "for BBFILE in `find /mnt/pfaffe/src/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ -name *.bb -type f`; do bitbake -b $BBFILE -c clean;done". pull and update for monotone were fine. What I was able to scrape off the terminal shell is at http://pastebin.ca/20174 Aug 16 09:29:07 Haven't been able to build for days now. I want my OE, dammit ;-) Aug 16 09:29:15 sounds like a job for rm -rf $TMPDIR Aug 16 09:29:18 :D Aug 16 09:29:40 OK. I do not care too much about that ;-) Aug 16 09:29:43 Laibsch: *have( you tried removing your entire tmp dir? Aug 16 09:30:26 I thought that the bitbake clean command would do something along those lines. I'll annihilate it pronto. Aug 16 09:32:04 Laibsch: not completely, no. The staging directory would still stay. Aug 16 09:32:30 OK, that'll too be a goner soon Aug 16 09:35:51 daily OE snapshots available at http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ Aug 16 09:37:00 great, koen. Is that the readonly client acces we were talking about yesterday ;-) Aug 16 09:38:01 ~lart quilt Aug 16 09:38:02 * ibot nabs the moon and broadsides quilt with the sea of tranquility Aug 16 09:38:18 * mickeyl uses patcher and is satisfied Aug 16 09:38:42 http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_Monotone_With_Mozilla_CVS Aug 16 09:39:05 mickeyl: okay, i'll add it to my ever growing todo Aug 16 09:39:14 * kergoth is glad to be hacking on things again, and to be employed Aug 16 09:39:16 excellent Aug 16 09:39:47 small company, i expect i'm going to be doing a hell of a lot outside my job description :P Aug 16 09:40:29 'There's an experimental cvssync branch of monotone that can sync directly to/from CVS repositories. ' Aug 16 09:40:43 twisted Aug 16 09:42:19 ibot: botmail for zecke: the statuspage of the tinderbox seems to be stuck, could you have a look at it? Aug 16 09:42:52 ibot: botmail for zecke_: hail zecke_! and see the botmail for 'zecke' Aug 16 09:43:08 that should cover it Aug 16 09:47:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r25916dac... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: GPE 2.7: adjust calendar and gpe-edit to existing versions Aug 16 09:52:46 Laibsch: no, there is no readonly client Aug 16 09:56:34 hi kergoth Aug 16 09:57:10 hey pb_ Aug 16 09:57:15 anyone have a dontdiff for the kernel handy? Aug 16 09:57:24 the one i used to get off of movementarian.org is a 404 now Aug 16 09:59:35 I think Russell King has one on his website Aug 16 10:00:07 http://www.moses.uklinux.net/patches/dontdiff apparently Aug 16 10:00:46 hmmm, looks like there may be one in Documenation/ in current 2.6 trees Aug 16 10:00:48 * kergoth checks Aug 16 10:01:06 ah, that's handy Aug 16 10:02:21 * kergoth grabs it from the torvalds tree via gitweb Aug 16 10:04:30 hmm... i think i need someone to start cleaning up my package descriptions soon... to many packages are starting to have DESCRIPTION="just a new packages" and license set to "check that later" :P Aug 16 10:05:03 heh, they shouldnt go into the tree if they're incomplete like that, imho. encourages laziness Aug 16 10:06:24 well, that's just my own packages here locally... Aug 16 10:06:40 to lazy to fix them before i complete this dist :) Aug 16 10:07:31 heh :) Aug 16 10:07:54 and dont want to mess around with the pkg's during a compile... Aug 16 10:08:09 if you don't know the license it should be set to "" Aug 16 10:08:28 random strings make in impossible to check for packages we don't know the license for Aug 16 10:08:40 i should play with monotone. havent checked out oe since the switch Aug 16 10:08:49 hehe Aug 16 10:09:03 hint: use the db snapshot Aug 16 10:09:35 ggilbert, well, those are my pkg's... and they are all have the same string since i just used an initial template to speed things up a bit when creating the pkg's... Aug 16 10:10:02 ... but it's quite amusing to have to wait for more than 3 hours for a compilation... on a amd64 3200+ :P Aug 16 10:10:09 err... 3500+ even Aug 16 10:10:10 i have 1751 unread mails just in my linux-arm-kernel mailbox Aug 16 10:10:12 sheesh Aug 16 10:10:32 heh Aug 16 10:10:38 I have 6493 in that mailbox Aug 16 10:10:42 * pb_ goes on ignoring it Aug 16 10:10:49 hehe Aug 16 10:11:04 theres just so much crap, people asking shit on the wrong list, etc. hard to find the gems Aug 16 10:11:06 I think I'm on one mailing list at th moment Aug 16 10:11:10 just nortel-list Aug 16 10:11:13 kergoth, then you have something to do some rainy weekend, or while waiting for a compilation... Aug 16 10:11:14 course i havent kept up with _any_ mailing lists in months, but still Aug 16 10:11:17 kergoth: yah Aug 16 10:11:29 I have 96445 unread messages in my "generic mailing lists" folder Aug 16 10:11:35 eep. Aug 16 10:11:41 don't anticipate reading those any time soon Aug 16 10:11:45 unsubscribed from all the hh.o and o[ze] lists Aug 16 10:11:47 should setup procmail to stuff each list in its own folder at the very least :) Aug 16 10:12:03 ggilbert: very wise Aug 16 10:12:05 i should do some unsubscribing. i really dont think i need to stay on the omap list anymore :P Aug 16 10:12:10 kergoth: yeah, I do that for most of the lists I actually care about Aug 16 10:12:21 ggilbert: that is nice and quiet :) Aug 16 10:12:25 procmail, that is, not unsubscribe Aug 16 10:12:27 pb_: it's pretty easy to do it automatically for well behaved lists Aug 16 10:12:42 true Aug 16 10:12:52 that might be a nice thing to do Aug 16 10:13:10 ooh! Aug 16 10:13:25 someone has a patch for linux connection tracking for nat for SIP/SDP Aug 16 10:13:27 procmail rocks Aug 16 10:13:35 so you wouldnt have to run a sip proxy to get it through the nat Aug 16 10:13:40 cute Aug 16 10:13:43 s/sip proxy/sip proxy on the nat obx/ Aug 16 10:15:14 kergoth: cute little mistake I noticed in wow. Next time you take the tram, look which way you are traveling on the minimap. Then look at the map and see which way you need to go to get from if to sw Aug 16 10:15:44 for extra points, look for bodies of water where ships could sink Aug 16 10:18:34 ggilbert: hehe, will do Aug 16 10:25:59 * pb_ go home now Aug 16 10:26:00 later all Aug 16 11:23:08 is mickey here? Aug 16 11:23:51 someone please tell him if he should remove opie-mediaplayer2-divx from meta-opie.bb, as he has removed that package Aug 16 11:24:04 ? Aug 16 11:24:19 would you like to try that again? Aug 16 11:24:23 opie-mediaplayer2-divx has been removed from the three, but it is still listed as dependency in meta-opie Aug 16 11:24:38 can do Aug 16 11:24:46 koen|slug: hey Aug 16 11:24:47 has it been removed or moved to not working? Aug 16 11:24:59 removed according to his changelog Aug 16 11:25:18 http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.message/6357828 Aug 16 11:28:06 damn Tinderbox sucks too much Aug 16 11:28:22 lol Aug 16 11:28:30 cmon zecke we know you love it Aug 16 11:28:47 emte: that suckers gets stucked even if no data arrives at all :} Aug 16 11:29:23 yeah ... sounds like my emacs issue still Aug 16 11:29:31 i dont know if you read what i wrote Aug 16 11:29:57 apperently the only help i got from #emacs was they figure we are using a cvs version Aug 16 11:30:23 ~botmail for koen please remove /data/tinderbox2/data_dir/OpenEmbeddedBuild/db Aug 16 11:33:48 i hate python for anything that requires memory Aug 16 11:35:08 ~botmail for mickeyl please remove opie-mediaplayer2-divx dependency from meta-opie.bb as you have removed that package Aug 16 11:36:53 anyone knows a XForms implementation for python? Aug 16 11:37:05 xforms? Aug 16 11:37:18 i tried asking this in openzaurus, linux, and linuxhelp, to no avail. so i'm asking here as a last resort... Aug 16 11:37:22 i tried to execute "pivot_root /media/card/debian-arm /media/card/debian-arm/mnt/oldroot" and got the error "Invalid argument". both directories exist and i'm root, what's wrong? Aug 16 11:38:28 slisk: dunno Aug 16 11:38:39 emte: http://chiba.sourceforge.net/ <- I want that in python Aug 16 11:39:36 you've been using windows too much zecke Aug 16 11:39:51 emte: heh? XForms is for a web app Aug 16 11:39:57 that sounds like the "Active Desktop" description Aug 16 11:40:04 emte: you provide the Form and a XML schema Aug 16 11:40:11 emte: and it creates you the forms on the fly Aug 16 11:40:22 emte: and it makes sure that the values are filled right Aug 16 11:40:29 emte: and then stores the information for you Aug 16 11:40:43 emte: so you won't do any HTML generation at all Aug 16 11:40:56 i am sure a simular project exists in pythin ... you check parnassus? Aug 16 11:41:07 i tried the command again with invalid dirs and files, they gave different errors Aug 16 11:41:26 what does "Invalid argument" mean exactly? Aug 16 11:41:39 that's nto the default catch-all error is it? Aug 16 11:41:54 slisk: use the source is the only thing I can say Aug 16 11:42:03 * slisk was afraid of that Aug 16 11:42:28 delete your source file and re download it Aug 16 11:43:10 emte: was that directed at me? Aug 16 11:43:32 yeah Aug 16 11:43:41 in your sources dir Aug 16 11:43:50 i'm not compiling anythign, i'm having trouble executing a command Aug 16 11:44:08 it's in the chat history, 6 min ago Aug 16 11:44:15 ah yeah Aug 16 11:44:17 bad me Aug 16 11:44:33 any ideas? Aug 16 11:44:56 yes ... python is evil Aug 16 11:45:04 not sure it helps you Aug 16 11:45:14 slisk: consult the manpage or grep the sourcecode of the package Aug 16 11:45:21 31693 apache 25 0 318m 271m 4036 R 65.9 54.4 1:20.60 python Aug 16 11:45:27 ugly numbers Aug 16 11:46:00 i'm looking the man pages for pivot_root and it's related functions, not seennig "Invalid argument" anywhere. all the erros described are pretty specific Aug 16 11:46:33 i guess i need the exit status, but then i still need the header fiel with the error definitions Aug 16 11:46:46 or can you access though from a script? Aug 16 11:46:52 s/though/those/ Aug 16 11:57:58 back! Aug 16 11:58:20 phew! Aug 16 11:58:36 whee, networking stuff is fun Aug 16 11:58:42 lol Aug 16 11:58:47 kergoth, at home or work? Aug 16 11:58:50 work Aug 16 11:58:59 feeling better then? Aug 16 11:59:22 yeah Aug 16 11:59:28 all productive and shit doay Aug 16 11:59:30 erm, today Aug 16 11:59:50 lol Aug 16 12:00:18 i've been here 3 days and i'm already shaking some shit up seriously Aug 16 12:00:21 good stuff Aug 16 12:00:25 lol Aug 16 12:00:44 thats only because your more qualified than the project manager Aug 16 12:01:02 well, yeah. i wonder how many people's jobs i'll end up doing eventually here Aug 16 12:01:25 if you perform too well... too many Aug 16 12:01:43 remember you have to have someone to work so you can take holidays Aug 16 12:01:50 or get sick Aug 16 12:02:21 and well al know your itching to start bb2 Aug 16 12:02:26 :P Aug 16 12:03:17 hehe Aug 16 12:03:32 yeah, all sorts of cool stuff to be done there if i can find the motivation to do it Aug 16 12:03:55 man ,,, python needs some serious memeory managment solutions Aug 16 12:04:24 no doubt Aug 16 12:04:40 emte 31693 apache 25 0 318m 271m 4036 R 65.9 54.4 1:20.60 python Aug 16 12:05:14 jeeze Aug 16 12:05:51 thats python buffering the OE dev repo for transfer Aug 16 12:06:19 how does the whole bitbake process know which kernel bb file to use? Aug 16 12:06:41 your distro or machine file Aug 16 12:06:52 further reasons why portage-c is a good idea... :) Aug 16 12:07:04 lol Aug 16 12:07:37 * RP crys Aug 16 12:07:56 I really can't take reading the Spitz pm code... Aug 16 12:07:59 in my machine.conf I have PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel="colibri24" but the kernel bb file is named colibri24_2.4.29-vrs1-pxa1-intc4-col1.bb Aug 16 12:08:43 lets see if i can crash the server again Aug 16 12:08:56 how does it know colibri24 stands for colibri24_2.4.29...etc..? Aug 16 12:09:28 Delta_: bitbake pulls the PN (package name) fromt he filename. Aug 16 12:09:29 latest version Aug 16 12:09:57 PREFERRED_VERSION can specify which of multiple colibri24 versions to use, if theres more than one, otherwise as emte says, the default is latest Aug 16 12:11:44 * emte is curious does monotone run faster one smaller repos? Aug 16 12:11:50 on* Aug 16 12:11:58 ah, ok, I'll try something.. Aug 16 12:13:18 two more devices done ... Aug 16 12:13:36 etch tank time i guess Aug 16 12:14:16 need photocopy first Aug 16 12:16:41 maybe lunch instead Aug 16 12:18:15 in a line like SRC_URI_append = file://gcc-3.3.patch;patch=1, does patch=1 mean the patch will be applied, and patch=0 would disable it? Aug 16 12:19:04 patch=1 just indicates that its a patch, really. if patch=1 wasnt there at all, it wouldnt be applied. not sure how itd react to patch=0 offhadn Aug 16 12:38:55 hmm, connection refused from monotone.vanille.de? Aug 16 12:39:46 mickey|sports: can I restart it? Aug 16 12:41:12 Crofton: try again Aug 16 12:42:16 thanks Aug 16 12:42:42 I am starting to try to figure out hwo to maintain a local branch so I can work with some guys here Aug 16 12:42:53 and synch that branch against main OE Aug 16 12:50:00 how do i create a kernel image that includes a binary module (that can't be compiled in), and that loads this b4 the the root fs? Aug 16 12:51:19 btw, i'm using a z5500 Aug 16 12:52:02 i'd prefer to use the collie-oz kernel with minimal modification, but that's flexible Aug 16 13:48:26 re Aug 16 13:48:34 RP: it's worse than 2.4.18, right? Aug 16 14:17:51 RP: ping Aug 16 14:47:20 RP: no chips under the foam Aug 16 14:47:22 re Aug 16 14:49:40 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r25f8c526... 10/packages/e17/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Remove fudge-menu-autoscroll and replace with add-menu-autoscroll-options which adds enlightenment_remote options Aug 16 14:55:12 JustinP: that's what I had in mind ;) Maybe adding a GPE/ submenu might make sense - Debian Style (KDE, Gnome, All) Aug 16 14:56:39 CoreDump|home: ok Aug 16 14:57:07 CoreDump|home: shouldn't be hard at all to convert .desktop files to eap's in the normal location and populate the user's menu with a default menu of them Aug 16 14:57:14 nope Aug 16 14:58:11 do you have any plans regarding the LMB menu? Aug 16 15:02:00 maybe the golden "E" in the left corner should spawn the application (RMB) menu Aug 16 15:04:35 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra56270bb... 10/packages/meta/ (meta-opie-dynamic.bb meta-opie.bb): Aug 16 15:04:35 - remove obsolete meta-opie-dynamic.bb Aug 16 15:04:35 - remove removed opie-mediaplayer2-divx from meta-opie.bb Aug 16 15:04:39 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3c94be02... 10/packages/mtd/ (8 files in 2 dirs): upgrade mtd-utils to a newer snapshot; remove some obsolete patches Aug 16 15:05:12 lol CNN is funny Aug 16 15:05:22 * kergoth wades into kernel network code Aug 16 15:05:30 Close your windoze and go $HOME, a Worm is coming Aug 16 15:05:42 mickeyl: I'll merge it... Aug 16 15:05:46 zecke: :) Aug 16 15:05:47 unless you already did... Aug 16 15:05:50 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r08924936... 10/packages/e17/e-wm/add-menu-autoscroll-options.patch: More descriptive help messages for enlightenment_remote options Aug 16 15:06:07 done Aug 16 15:06:53 yay, about to submit a patch upstream for e17 Aug 16 15:06:58 cool Aug 16 15:07:33 btw: Aug 16 15:07:38 CoreDump|home: was that your screeny from an Akita with E-Wm running firefox? Aug 16 15:07:49 +lart E for it's crappy un-informative error messages Aug 16 15:07:56 yep Aug 16 15:07:57 CoreDump|home: was that a native OE-built firefox? Aug 16 15:08:03 yeah Aug 16 15:08:04 excellent! Aug 16 15:08:16 any idea how large that was? (+ deps) Aug 16 15:08:19 compiled out of the box :) Aug 16 15:08:21 rought estimate will do Aug 16 15:08:22 indeed Aug 16 15:08:27 ~20-25MB Aug 16 15:08:32 uncompressed in ext2 Aug 16 15:08:41 cool Aug 16 15:08:54 not very useable though Aug 16 15:08:58 slow? Aug 16 15:08:58 dog slow Aug 16 15:09:03 darn :/ Aug 16 15:09:09 might have been cause my root is on NFS Aug 16 15:09:14 yes, Firefox is pretty slow....still usable, though IMHO Aug 16 15:09:25 took 1.5min just to load :) Aug 16 15:09:28 i'd be interested in getting galeon in OE Aug 16 15:09:34 my favourite desktop browser Aug 16 15:10:16 looks interesting Aug 16 15:10:24 is epiphany in oe yet? Aug 16 15:10:25 i don't many deps are missing Aug 16 15:10:25 Hello, I'm Jordan, and was a Galeon user - I'm proud to be a year gone from Galeon Aug 16 15:10:41 kergoth: nope Aug 16 15:10:43 aw Aug 16 15:10:44 CoreDump|home: hehe Aug 16 15:10:57 http://open-source.arkoon.net/kernel/kernel_net.png <-nifty Aug 16 15:11:10 nice Aug 16 15:11:18 * kergoth prints Aug 16 15:11:26 leet Aug 16 15:11:41 linux networking stuff is fun :) Aug 16 15:12:06 hmm Aug 16 15:12:13 kergoth: If you can read german, I could send you a couple of books Aug 16 15:12:18 japanese to english translation takes some time ... Aug 16 15:12:21 kergoth: authored by one of my professors Aug 16 15:12:42 galeon Aug 16 15:12:45 man those were th days Aug 16 15:12:59 hmm Aug 16 15:13:11 you are talking like it's dead or so Aug 16 15:13:15 CosmicPenguin: I'm not sure making the "E" spwan the RMB is a good idea...I like it as the LMB as it is. You can still view that "Applications menu" from RMB by going to Favorite Applications in LMB/E. Aug 16 15:13:16 what are you using nowadays? Aug 16 15:13:20 konq Aug 16 15:13:22 eek Aug 16 15:13:30 i love kde, but i can't stand konq. Aug 16 15:13:33 ha Aug 16 15:13:40 I dont have any problems with it myself Aug 16 15:13:52 mickeyl: pong Aug 16 15:14:07 mickeyl: Sorry, been staring at the pm code :-/ Aug 16 15:14:23 RP: hi. np. CMDLINE_ROOT_spitz=root=/dev/hda1 rootfstype=ext3 will do? Aug 16 15:14:37 mickeyl: yes Aug 16 15:14:56 ok. any thing to remember when looking how opie is b0rken on 2.6? :)) Aug 16 15:15:03 +at Aug 16 15:15:47 mickeyl: Not really. I'm a bit puzzled about the touchscreen. I'm reusing the corgi one so it could be something I've left in which assumes 640x480 but I can't see it... Aug 16 15:16:07 To be clearer, I'm reusing the corgi touchscreen driver on spitz Aug 16 15:16:16 RP: ah ok. so i should configure tslib accordingly Aug 16 15:16:37 mickeyl: tslib configures itself accordingly already as far as I can see Aug 16 15:16:55 mickeyl: You copied the corgi 2.6 code for the spitz image so its already all there Aug 16 15:17:04 ah right Aug 16 15:17:06 wise mickey Aug 16 15:17:08 heh Aug 16 15:17:21 All I had to do was add the keymap-2.6 file :) Aug 16 15:17:48 ts_test works fine so it looks opie related Aug 16 15:19:05 forgive me If i already asked that... is there any pxafb accelleration possible ? Aug 16 15:19:10 hmm Aug 16 15:19:28 i dont suppose anyone has a VAIO U71 ... Aug 16 15:19:28 * mickeyl wonders when sirfred will come back from vacation Aug 16 15:19:40 mickeyl: You can use overlays which will help movies. Not sure it can do much else... Aug 16 15:19:47 mickeyl: not much Aug 16 15:19:51 RP: what's that overlay thing? Aug 16 15:19:57 bvdd or so Aug 16 15:20:00 yes Aug 16 15:20:02 JustinP: from a user-perspective, the RMB menu is of more value. You don't need 8 out of the 12 entries in the LMB menu for daily usage. And you need two clicks to reach the application menu. Aug 16 15:20:05 mickeyl: we should probably port DirectFB Aug 16 15:20:26 directfb is dead Aug 16 15:20:27 * mickeyl runs Aug 16 15:20:56 mickeyl: it is probably still the most performant Free Windowing System Aug 16 15:20:58 i can't take a rendering engine seriously that refuses to implement rotation Aug 16 15:21:26 mickeyl: maybe dok is too stoned... Aug 16 15:21:35 zecke: heh. still? :)) Aug 16 15:21:41 twin is all you need Aug 16 15:21:50 all bow before the awesome power of twin Aug 16 15:21:51 mickeyl: The spitz power code is worse than 2.4.18 simply becuase half of it is the same with added if statements, the other half is the same file copied and modified... Aug 16 15:21:55 CosmicPenguin: it really looks interesting Aug 16 15:21:57 CoreDump|home: I'd rather not depart too far from standard e17 right now. After all, e17 is still alpha and you need at least some knowledge to use it... Aug 16 15:22:01 RP: i can feel your pain... Aug 16 15:22:24 * mickeyl waits patiently for his spitz image to complete Aug 16 15:22:37 mickeyl: Half of me says common driver, the other half says fork it :-/ Aug 16 15:22:54 CoreDump|home: biohazard (ask emte) is supposed to be the PDA-friendly e-based window manager Aug 16 15:22:55 I've started down the common driver road, then found a big flaw... Aug 16 15:23:02 JustinP: there are bound to be _some_ adjustments to the embedded environment :) Aug 16 15:23:13 * mickeyl tries to support the common driver half Aug 16 15:23:28 don't let yourself be fooled by embedix code Aug 16 15:23:34 it will use a vastly different navigation approach anyway Aug 16 15:23:34 you can do it Aug 16 15:23:37 *cheer* Aug 16 15:23:59 CoreDump|home: Sure. Like the menu autoscroll patch I added. But I'm sending that one upstream as well. Aug 16 15:24:33 JustinP: meh, where's the point in yet another "PDA friendly" WM like Opie or GPE. E is nice because it's the real deal :) Aug 16 15:24:47 *nod* Aug 16 15:24:54 mouse buttons can be fixed Aug 16 15:24:57 CoreDump|home: I suppose it could make some sense to "dumb down" the E menu to be Favorites only.....but I personally just don't like that. Why *remove* options? Aug 16 15:25:09 oh you got me wrong Aug 16 15:25:09 CoreDump|home: I actually somewhat afree since we have E and it works. Aug 16 15:25:19 hehe Aug 16 15:25:25 i never wanted to remove anything Aug 16 15:25:26 how history repeats itself Aug 16 15:25:40 mickeyl: I appreciate the support and am aiming for common code :). Its a mess though... Aug 16 15:25:45 i was just suggesting to make the RMB menu more accessible Aug 16 15:26:05 * ggilbert remembers when mandrake was rewriting bits of e to be more pda friendly Aug 16 15:26:32 CoreDump|home, for 95% of applications a full wm is overkill Aug 16 15:26:42 tell that the pdaXrom zealots Aug 16 15:26:45 heh Aug 16 15:26:46 lol Aug 16 15:26:57 CoreDump|home: I took spitz to bits and compared it to those photos. I can't figure out where the i2c io expander is hidden. It makes no sense... Aug 16 15:27:01 emte: correct, IMO Opie and GPE are very useful Aug 16 15:27:07 if you think about it, how often do you have 5+ apps running in windows on your pda/ Aug 16 15:27:09 ? Aug 16 15:27:23 RP: there's nothing under the black sticker Aug 16 15:27:35 CoreDump|home: by basically removing everything but the app menu from the E menu...it would still be in LMB I suppose but I like it accessible elsewhere too...perhaps we can make it another e_remote option ;-) Aug 16 15:27:42 why waste space having a menu if your using an application? Aug 16 15:27:55 JustinP: e_remote? Aug 16 15:28:05 if it's a great eyecandy menu bar, I love to see it everytime Aug 16 15:28:07 :D Aug 16 15:28:11 CoreDump|home: All I can assume is it must be part of the pga... Aug 16 15:28:14 lol Aug 16 15:28:22 mickeyl: :D Aug 16 15:28:31 http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ePAQ Aug 16 15:28:34 :p Aug 16 15:29:05 JustinP: or maybe another "module" on the desktop beside the golden E Aug 16 15:29:12 a silver A? ;) Aug 16 15:29:21 yeaaaah Aug 16 15:29:24 Â Aug 16 15:29:27 w00t Aug 16 15:29:38 CoreDump|home: enlightenment_remote. You can use it to change all sorts of config options for e17. I just added 2 and am sending the patch upstream. Aug 16 15:29:39 now that would rock heh Aug 16 15:29:53 CoreDump|home: Oh yeah, it's a module ;-). All we need is another module ;-) Aug 16 15:30:04 :) Aug 16 15:31:45 I'm a little bit concerned by its size. IMO it will be _hard_ to squeeze E w/ a few apps in flash Aug 16 15:31:55 not really Aug 16 15:32:08 /dev/loop0 193.7M 90.8M 102.9M 47% / Aug 16 15:32:08 rebuild all the theme stuff Aug 16 15:32:20 raster has this thing about images ... Aug 16 15:32:25 but the eyecandy is the point of E :) Aug 16 15:32:27 they are all way oversized Aug 16 15:33:05 you will also need to edit the desktop dimensions Aug 16 15:33:05 ok, this is E with task-gpe-base Aug 16 15:33:19 which might help with the images Aug 16 15:34:04 entrance ships currently w/ 5MB of themes Aug 16 15:34:31 CoreDump|home: people have large SDs nowadays Aug 16 15:34:37 with altboot i don't see problems Aug 16 15:34:38 I'm reaching a stage where I suspect the charging code for spitz is really the same as corgi... Aug 16 15:35:00 RP: heh. now that wouldn't surprise me a bit after all we've been through with their code Aug 16 15:35:08 obfsucaters Aug 16 15:35:14 ibot: spell obfuscators Aug 16 15:35:16 possible spellings for obfuscators: obfuscates obfuscatory obfuscated obfuscate obfuscations obfuscating obfuscation's Aug 16 15:35:18 I suspect someone at Sharp had to fix something and found it easier to rewrite it but its really the same kind of thing... Aug 16 15:35:52 The question is do I risk trying it on my spitz :) Aug 16 15:36:06 hmm Aug 16 15:36:09 dunno what to recommend :) Aug 16 15:36:30 you already blew fuses and stuff Aug 16 15:36:33 nothing more to come ;) Aug 16 15:37:13 I'll poke at the code more and try to see the differences... Aug 16 15:37:21 I'm not anywhere near ready to test it anyway Aug 16 15:37:37 I have 101 other differences to worry about :) Aug 16 15:37:37 well ggilbert you will be happy to know i am addressing almost all those items ... and a couple otehrs Aug 16 15:38:25 too bad evoak was canned Aug 16 15:38:37 RP: I saw the fuse you blew :D What a mean sucker to replace Aug 16 15:38:40 emte: any idea when the textblock2 API will be in place? Aug 16 15:38:41 yeah .. rewritting it isnt fun Aug 16 15:38:48 ? Aug 16 15:38:56 no idea Aug 16 15:39:05 guess there's only one who knows Aug 16 15:39:10 if at all Aug 16 15:39:13 is it his? Aug 16 15:39:20 sure. it's a core part of evas Aug 16 15:39:25 the only e person i talk to is raster Aug 16 15:40:04 i am on the list, but i never talk to the others Aug 16 15:40:17 never really had a need Aug 16 15:41:46 maybe raster's email strike will help get it done mickeyl Aug 16 15:41:52 righto Aug 16 15:42:44 I'll leave the textblock alone in my EFL++ until the API is more complete Aug 16 15:42:51 anyway, tv time Aug 16 15:42:51 bbl Aug 16 15:42:56 (tomorrow, that is) Aug 16 15:43:36 BTW, OZ/E officially kicked pdaXroms ass at the "Screenshot contest" thread at oesf.org. Must be a first heh Aug 16 15:44:13 raster said yesterday that he got some good work done on it Aug 16 15:44:51 CoreDump|home: which thread is this? Aug 16 15:44:58 CoreDump|home: i can't see the pics Aug 16 15:45:02 JustinP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8170&st=45 Aug 16 15:45:12 maybe they vanished from hh.org Aug 16 15:45:16 darn Aug 16 15:45:18 yeah Aug 16 15:46:02 I'll upload them to hentges.net Aug 16 15:46:23 JustinP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8170&st=45 Aug 16 15:47:06 CoreDump|home: thanks, mickey|tv just posted it ;-) Aug 16 15:47:12 I can't se eyour screenshots either Aug 16 15:47:50 they were at hh.org/scap :) re-uploading them in a few minutes Aug 16 15:48:15 ah yes..scap goes away pretty quick Aug 16 15:48:17 good nite Aug 16 15:48:22 night zecke Aug 16 15:48:32 n8 zecke Aug 16 15:48:54 efl++ ? Aug 16 15:50:07 * emte contemplates what efl++ could be Aug 16 15:51:28 C++ bindings to EFL probably Aug 16 15:51:34 * JustinP is guessing Aug 16 15:51:53 not sure Aug 16 15:52:09 trying to follow raster's pointers to do that .... Aug 16 15:52:53 hmm Aug 16 15:53:48 CoreDump|home: I'm just pleased it was only a fuse ;-) Aug 16 15:53:59 hehe Aug 16 16:19:45 JustinP: pics are back up Aug 16 16:21:01 :-) Aug 16 16:21:06 we win! Aug 16 16:21:51 indeed :D Aug 16 16:22:46 "now that................. Aug 16 16:22:46 brings a tear to my eyes. Aug 16 16:22:46 " Aug 16 16:22:56 heh, damn right Aug 16 16:24:09 anyone have a moment to help me get bitbake task-bootstrap working? Aug 16 16:24:17 I sent a mail to the list but noone responded Aug 16 16:24:30 title was OE for SL-6000 Sharp ROM Aug 16 16:25:22 I've got the toolchain unpacked in /usr/local/arm/ Aug 16 16:25:42 and I edited the local config file so I could build for the Sharp ROM Aug 16 16:26:01 but when I run 'bitbake task-bootstrap' I get several errors Aug 16 16:26:24 ERROR: function do_compile failed Aug 16 16:26:48 | NOTE: make -e MAKEFLAGS= CROSS=arm-linux- Aug 16 16:27:28 | /home/josh/zaurus/stuff/build/tmp/work/busybox-1.00-r30/busybox-1.00/console-tools/getkey.c:42: parse error before `struct' Aug 16 16:27:35 quite a few errors actually ... Aug 16 16:27:41 hey CoreDump|home Aug 16 16:27:59 ? Aug 16 16:28:01 i have the repo availible ... but its not well suited for oe Aug 16 16:28:10 oe is way too large Aug 16 16:28:27 kados: well...why are you trying to build an image for the Sharp ROM? Aug 16 16:28:31 the hg thingy? Aug 16 16:28:42 well for the way they currently handle transfer Aug 16 16:28:44 yeah Aug 16 16:28:47 JustinP: for a number of reasons Aug 16 16:28:57 JustinP: I'd like to compile some software for use on it Aug 16 16:29:07 CoreDump|home: xmonobut works fine with engage, but only if you don't start engage with "-m 0". And withtout -m 0 it makes the bottom of the screen all black.... Aug 16 16:29:21 kados: well you don't need an image to compile software... Aug 16 16:29:51 JustinP: I was told to run bitbake task-bootstrap to check my oe setup Aug 16 16:30:10 you need task-bootstarp to pretty much compile anything Aug 16 16:30:11 heh, just got used to mt Aug 16 16:30:27 JustinP: http://kados.org/log.do_compile.2673 Aug 16 16:30:27 CoreDump|home, hmm i thout it was you who asked about it .. Aug 16 16:30:29 you could begin with bitbake nano to see if your toolchain works.. Aug 16 16:30:38 nope Aug 16 16:30:54 * emte shrugges Aug 16 16:31:05 ;) Aug 16 16:31:12 kados: ah yea...sorry, I wasn thinking bootstrap-image :-| Aug 16 16:31:14 * kados is confused ;-) Aug 16 16:31:17 ahh Aug 16 16:31:47 kados: is this the first thing that got compiled? Aug 16 16:31:53 JustinP: yep Aug 16 16:32:03 JustinP: it was my first time running bitbake Aug 16 16:32:19 kados: well...it *should* compile glibc and such beforehand I believe.... Aug 16 16:32:31 kados: those need to be around to link to and for includes and such Aug 16 16:32:39 (AFAIK) Aug 16 16:32:45 hmmm Aug 16 16:32:52 but maybe not Aug 16 16:32:57 well i dropped the toolchain in /usr/local/arm/ Aug 16 16:33:16 actually, looking at this output it just looks like the gcc version just may not like the code in that version of busybox Aug 16 16:33:26 the Sharp "toolchain" is ancient Aug 16 16:33:31 I'm using this guide: Aug 16 16:33:32 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels Aug 16 16:34:13 kados: try "bitbake nano" Aug 16 16:34:17 k Aug 16 16:34:30 it may be that the busybox version you're trying to compile won't compile with that toolchain Aug 16 16:35:10 hmmm ... well why is it on the wiki then ;-) Aug 16 16:35:12 kados: are you using the sharprom-compatible machine type? Aug 16 16:35:19 yep Aug 16 16:35:21 kados: you're not understanding Aug 16 16:35:32 true ;-) Aug 16 16:35:37 I'm very new to all of this Aug 16 16:35:43 kados: that toolchain is for compiling the old, nasty kernels that Sharp paid Lineo to develop. Aug 16 16:35:45 please enlighten me Aug 16 16:35:48 right Aug 16 16:35:52 They're nasty in more ways than one... Aug 16 16:36:02 yep Aug 16 16:36:25 don't I need to use them to compile software for the Sharp ROM though? Aug 16 16:36:39 OE uses that compiler *only* to compile those kernels. The rest of the programs are compiled with a much newer toolchain built by OE. (This is for any of the distros in OE, OZ, Familiar, etc) Aug 16 16:36:45 ahh Aug 16 16:36:48 I *think* you do, yes Aug 16 16:37:07 but, as I said, that version of busybox may not compile on that toolchain because it's so old Aug 16 16:37:07 ok ... well eventually i'd like to roll my own ROM Aug 16 16:37:34 kados: well, use OZ as a start, then, I would highly recommend staying off the Sharp ROM.... Aug 16 16:37:39 but for now, I'd like to be able to compile some software I've got written for my current platform on the Sharp ROM Aug 16 16:37:43 customizing it is only going to give you major headaches Aug 16 16:37:52 hmmm ... actually, I've found that the OZ rom is majorly unstable Aug 16 16:37:55 ok, well try "bitbake nano" and see if that works Aug 16 16:38:14 yea ... in the middle of the build now Aug 16 16:38:16 kados, which ROM Aug 16 16:38:29 kados: it's still better infrastructure-wise than the Sharp ROM. And things are progressing. Aug 16 16:38:35 emte: well the latest OZ rom made two of my 5500's bricks Aug 16 16:38:38 Also, I don' thtink the 6000 is very well sup;ported Aug 16 16:38:43 there seems a major user misconception in the OZ-user world that latest means stable Aug 16 16:38:49 JustinP: I've been following the OZ movement since the beginning ;-) Aug 16 16:39:02 ok Aug 16 16:39:05 JustinP: it's always been very neat but very unstable and very unusable Aug 16 16:39:19 I need stability first Aug 16 16:39:20 * CoreDump|home sooooo disagrees Aug 16 16:39:23 :-) Aug 16 16:39:48 sweet ... nano built Aug 16 16:40:01 kados: the Sharp ROM is a house made of sticks. Sure, it's stable as-is, but try to do anything on your own with it and it will implode on you. Aug 16 16:40:02 3.5.3 on collie w/ the new r21 kernel is rock stable Aug 16 16:40:31 CoreDump|home: I flashed 3.5.3 on my collie and now it's a brick Aug 16 16:40:36 CoreDump|home: won't even start Aug 16 16:40:40 kados: did you check the md5sums? Aug 16 16:40:46 JustinP: of course ;-) Aug 16 16:41:18 of the files on the card? after ejecting them and reinserting them into whatever reading device you're using? Aug 16 16:41:26 You didn't brick the Z, you should still be able te reflash Aug 16 16:41:28 some systems lie... Aug 16 16:41:31 mac os x for example Aug 16 16:41:36 CoreDump|home: yep ... I just haven't had time Aug 16 16:41:55 kados: ok :) never saw someone brick his collie w/ OZ Aug 16 16:42:06 CoreDump|home: yea ... it's a temporary brick ;-) Aug 16 16:42:13 CoreDump|home: don't get me wrong ... I love OZ Aug 16 16:42:25 CoreDump|home: but it's still got a ways to go Aug 16 16:42:39 CoreDump|home: course, if I can get 3.3.5 going my opinion may change Aug 16 16:42:59 http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml Aug 16 16:43:03 :) Aug 16 16:43:04 CoreDump|home: I've just had oodles of very strange data losses and various other problems Aug 16 16:43:46 CoreDump|home: I'll try them now Aug 16 16:43:51 note: requires a permanent >=64MB SD or CF card Aug 16 16:43:57 JustinP: interesting ... I do run OSX on the desktop Aug 16 16:44:11 CoreDump|home: cool ... should the SD be ext3? Aug 16 16:44:17 ext2 Aug 16 16:44:35 CoreDump|home: hmmm ... may be tricky where I am now Aug 16 16:44:49 the page doesn't run away heh Aug 16 16:44:55 CoreDump|home: :-) Aug 16 16:45:03 CoreDump|home: thanks for the link Aug 16 16:45:10 np Aug 16 16:45:19 kados: with a mac os x laptop at home I wrote stuff to a CF card, checked md5 sums and they were perfect. Eject and reinsert and the md5sums changed. Screwed up a bunch of flashes. Damn thing. Aug 16 16:45:22 so anyone have any ideas why task-bootstrap won't build but nano will? Aug 16 16:45:36 kados: I told you before Aug 16 16:45:39 JustinP: weird ... I'll try it from my linux box when I get back home Aug 16 16:46:06 kados: the sharprom-compatible type hasn't been tested at all Aug 16 16:46:28 ahh Aug 16 16:46:30 kados: and, as I said 3 times before, likely the busybox code you're trying to compile IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THAT TOOLCHAIN! Aug 16 16:46:37 ok sorry ... Aug 16 16:46:46 kados: try compiling what you specifically want Aug 16 16:46:52 ok Aug 16 16:46:57 kados: you don't need task-bootstrap to just compile normal programs Aug 16 16:47:11 * RP gives up on the pm code for tonight Aug 16 16:47:13 ok ... I was told I did Aug 16 16:47:19 'night all :) Aug 16 16:47:39 kados: if you need anything in it it should automatically get compiled for you throu th e magic of dependencies Aug 16 16:47:44 n8 RP Aug 16 16:47:54 night RP Aug 16 16:48:25 JustinP: so busybox does what exactly? Aug 16 16:49:04 JustinP, if he needs autotools he does Aug 16 16:49:35 unless we have a shorter meta than task-bootstrap Aug 16 16:50:49 altho since its zaurus ... Aug 16 16:50:55 hard to say Aug 16 16:51:06 should I install busybox? Aug 16 16:51:37 buzybox is the basic shell Aug 16 16:51:54 it's not installed on this host system Aug 16 16:52:00 should it be? Aug 16 16:52:09 but not compatible with offical zaurus Aug 16 16:52:09 or is it included in OE? Aug 16 16:52:18 it gets built Aug 16 16:52:23 ok Aug 16 16:52:58 JustinP: I was told I needed task-bootstrap to compile a new serial_cs.o Aug 16 16:53:02 if you look at the metafiles you can read what requires what Aug 16 16:53:03 kados: it's already on your Zaurus. Don't worry about it Aug 16 16:53:13 emte: no, he doesn't need to build task-bootstrap Aug 16 16:53:49 emte: if you try to compile *anything* from an emty tmpdir it will automatically recompile the utilities needed Aug 16 16:54:03 emte: which does not include busybox, for example Aug 16 16:54:26 kados: you should need absolutely nothing but the toolchain to compile your new kernel Aug 16 16:54:56 kados: do "bitbake -b /path/to/kernel/bbfile -cpatch" Aug 16 16:55:14 n8 Aug 16 16:55:24 kados: then apply a patch to the kernel source (in tmp/work/kernel-name) then "bitbake kernel-name" Aug 16 16:55:42 JustinP: thanks Aug 16 16:55:45 I'll try it Aug 16 16:59:50 I don't see a kernel package in the org.openembedded.dev ... do I need to check out a different branch to get that? Aug 16 17:00:51 no Aug 16 17:00:56 packages/linux Aug 16 17:01:12 oh....you're probably not going to want to use the OZ kernels Aug 16 17:01:15 ls openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/ Aug 16 17:01:29 they have patches which make them incompatible with Sharp ROM Aug 16 17:01:33 right Aug 16 17:01:48 I suggest copying the 6000 kernel's bb file and removing the patches Aug 16 17:01:52 then use that Aug 16 17:02:40 ok ... I'll see if I understand that ;-) Aug 16 17:02:56 heh Aug 16 17:04:17 I don't :-). First off, I can't find a kernel bb file that looks like it's specifically for the 6000 Aug 16 17:05:02 openzaurus-pxa27x_2.4.20-rmk2-embedix20050228.bb Aug 16 17:05:08 probably that one Aug 16 17:05:13 er Aug 16 17:05:14 no Aug 16 17:05:19 27x? that's the spitz... Aug 16 17:05:23 oz is uaing 2.6 Aug 16 17:05:30 really? for the 6000? Aug 16 17:05:39 sec i'll read Aug 16 17:05:41 what's the 6000's name? tosa? Aug 16 17:05:48 yep Aug 16 17:05:57 openzaurus-pxa Aug 16 17:06:15 so openzaurus-pxa_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix20031107.bb/inc Aug 16 17:06:35 ok ... you see tosa in there somewhere? ;-) Aug 16 17:06:41 kados: I found this in conf/machine/tosa-2.4 Aug 16 17:06:47 great! Aug 16 17:06:49 thanks Aug 16 17:07:57 hey if this works, can I commit the bb file upstream? Aug 16 17:08:14 linux-openzaurus_2.6.11.bb linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-rc5-mm1.bb Aug 16 17:08:20 (not that anyone will want it) ;-) Aug 16 17:08:23 if you want the 2.6 Aug 16 17:08:32 emte: cool ... thanks Aug 16 17:08:37 of you like....we're not really supporting sharprom development ATM, but others may find it helpful.... Aug 16 17:08:39 was under clamshell instead of tosa Aug 16 17:09:01 kados: don't use the 2.6 kernels for the Sharp ROM...it's guaranteed not to work without some major changes Aug 16 17:09:07 * JustinP is heading home Aug 16 17:09:08 ok Aug 16 17:09:12 ? Aug 16 17:09:13 JustinP: thanks for your help! Aug 16 17:09:37 I'd be very interested in doing kernel patches for OZ and the 2.6 kernel Aug 16 17:09:42 don't know who's working on it Aug 16 17:09:45 thought 2.6 had been used for the last two releases ... Aug 16 17:09:59 emte: not for the 6000 though ;-) Aug 16 17:10:08 emte: well I hear it works but not well Aug 16 17:10:12 ah Aug 16 17:10:23 emte: and I think JustinP was talking about it not working at all on the Sharp ROM Aug 16 17:11:00 * emte shrugges Aug 16 17:11:04 i have an ipaq Aug 16 17:11:13 cant afford anything better Aug 16 17:12:16 wow ... I'm starting to get this metadata concept Aug 16 17:12:18 this rocks! Aug 16 18:36:52 * france is back (gone 20:40:13) Aug 16 18:42:25 kados: it does indeed rock :-) Aug 16 18:42:58 kados: I finally got started in OE a little while ago, started adding things locally, and submitting bb files...and now I'm the maintainer of the E related packages ;-) Aug 16 18:44:16 kados: and, yes, the 2.6 kernels are great, wonderful, can't wait for the Spitz 2.6 kernel to be fully done (no disrespect to BigAl or RP, wonderful work so far), but with the Sharp ROM you *must* use their 2.4 kernel Aug 16 18:44:34 you can patch it some, but the 2.6 kernel would be such a major step I'd suggest starting with OZ Aug 16 18:45:13 honestly if OZ has issues, then you can fix it and make it better... Aug 16 18:45:45 this is how I got started. I wanted something so I got it in :-) Aug 16 20:43:26 how do morons ever even compose email ? Aug 16 20:44:46 you would think people who try to use a development system would understand the concept that not everything is perfect Aug 16 21:37:43 hey raster Aug 16 21:40:00 hey raster :-) My patch has been sent to the e-devel list for those menu auto-scroll options. Feel free to tell me what you think of it. Aug 16 21:40:12 heh...that sounds wrong.... Aug 16 21:43:44 JustinP: i spotted Aug 16 21:43:46 emte: hey hey Aug 16 21:43:47 :) Aug 16 21:43:56 JustinP: i havent had any time right now Aug 16 21:46:26 raster: understandable. I am, after all a relative e n00b and you are the uber ;-) Aug 16 21:46:57 | Aug 16 21:47:05 |\|()()|3 Aug 16 21:49:21 oh no...raster and kergoth together....we will never survive ;-) Aug 16 21:49:45 jeeze, i cant read 'we will never survive' without thinking of the princess bride Aug 16 21:50:17 "we'll never survive." Aug 16 21:50:24 "Nonsense, you're only saying that because no one ever has." Aug 16 21:50:53 ah...thanks, I didn't remember the specifics Aug 16 21:50:59 hehe Aug 16 21:51:05 eeek Aug 16 21:51:06 its when they're going into the fire swamp Aug 16 21:51:08 kergoth! Aug 16 21:51:08 :) Aug 16 21:51:09 hey Aug 16 21:51:12 hey hey Aug 16 21:51:23 "But Westley, what about the R.O.U.S.es?" Aug 16 21:51:44 rodents of unusual size? i dont think they exist. *rous flies at him* Aug 16 22:04:36 hmm Aug 16 22:04:54 * emte debates about hitting the reply button to the mailing list ... Aug 16 22:05:10 perhaps you shoudl read it fisrt Aug 16 22:05:24 sometimes i make hasty decisions Aug 16 22:06:22 emte: ? which list? Aug 16 22:06:37 http://oe.pastebin.com/338800 Aug 16 22:06:43 it was to general Aug 16 22:06:58 the first message is at the end of my rant Aug 16 22:07:18 general what? Aug 16 22:07:43 oh this one Aug 16 22:07:49 Subject: Request suggestions for OE improvements Aug 16 22:07:50 ok, I know what e-mail this is... Aug 16 22:09:17 emte: I'm not sure you should respond to the original poster like that...sounds like he's trying to find things to fix so he can spend some time on it. Aug 16 22:09:27 i probably could have used the time better to program ... oh well Aug 16 22:10:51 JustinP, since his email address is "research.panasonic.com" ... and he is fronting for another group ... Aug 16 22:11:05 i dont really feel bad on that point Aug 16 22:11:12 well, yes, if these people would contribute back that would help immensely Aug 16 22:13:38 you mean i should join #elinux / Aug 16 22:13:47 since that is how far away they are Aug 16 22:15:33 well i dont really know what to think Aug 16 22:16:10 most of the hits for CELF are corporations joining it Aug 16 22:17:37 * france is away: Away Aug 16 22:17:58 http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/official.data/data.dir/en030701-4/en030701-4.html Aug 16 22:18:08 thats who the are anyway Aug 16 22:18:13 they* Aug 16 22:18:31 Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., Sony Corporation, Hitachi, Ltd., NEC Corporation, Royal Philips Electronics, Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., Sharp Corporation, and Toshiba Corporation, today announced the establishment of the "CE [*1] Linux Forum (CELF)". Aug 16 22:20:51 well....doesn't make sense to try to alienate them Aug 16 22:22:40 I suggest rephrasing your e-mail to be a little more repectful and letting them know that if they all contribute back to OE they'll all get their work back tenfold Aug 16 22:23:36 can i change the theme in gtk. how do i do that ? Aug 16 22:25:07 respectful ... of the same people who couldnt find the contacts for the core developers under "contacts" on the openembedded site? Aug 16 22:27:43 * emte thinks about parts to "soften" ... Aug 16 22:28:23 well, I know very little of the history... Aug 16 22:28:37 this person is just asking in a public forum what people want fixed Aug 16 22:28:45 so respond with what *you* want fixed Aug 16 22:28:55 i thought i was being nice not mentioning the the piggy backing on poor unpaid people so greedy corps can make more money Aug 16 22:29:43 people's intelligence Aug 16 22:29:50 but i cant ask for that Aug 16 22:30:08 yes Aug 16 22:31:03 well, send what you like. Perhaps what you wrote will start a discussion. It wasn't that bad. Aug 16 22:31:06 just a bit angry Aug 16 22:31:42 well i took out two lines Aug 16 22:31:50 maybe its nicer now Aug 16 22:32:20 CoreDump|afk: e17genmenu apparently converts .desktop files to eap files :-o Aug 16 22:34:39 Actually, my gqview is not working. hence i want to change the themes and try again to see if it works Aug 16 22:34:43 i dont know if we have an utility with OE which allows u to configure the themes Aug 16 22:35:13 there ... i sent my evil corruption Aug 16 22:35:23 now i can program again Aug 16 22:35:29 emte: as I head of to bed, it looks more like a newbie than evil Aug 16 22:36:05 hmm ... in 20 min i might agree Aug 16 22:36:45 generally thats why i try not to reply Aug 16 22:36:58 emte: some corps are a pain, other corps have good people trying to work with difficult rules, and there are some decent corps with a few bad people Aug 16 22:37:27 yeah i agree with that Aug 16 22:37:59 i didnt put anything about that in there Aug 16 22:38:05 this looks like somebody that was told to "work with those people", but does not understand the community Aug 16 22:38:34 well, all the CELF people have CELF emails Aug 16 22:38:45 i am neither evil nor greedy. since, i am working with oe. i think this is the most appropriate forum to ask with so many knowledgable people here. Aug 16 22:38:55 heh Aug 16 22:38:57 lol Aug 16 22:39:06 i am sorry if i hurt u all. i am newbie Aug 16 22:39:17 trying to improve my knowledge Aug 16 22:39:29 anyone who contributes or tries is great Aug 16 22:39:41 eJumbo: was that your post? Aug 16 22:39:50 I have had a HP email addr a compaq email addr a dec addr, etc.. and I still mostly use my hh.org e-mail Aug 16 22:39:50 its just the damn forum Aug 16 22:40:01 just convenient. Aug 16 22:40:01 which post ? Aug 16 22:40:25 forum/mailing list Aug 16 22:40:30 i just asked a question asking is there any utility in oe which allows us to change the themes Aug 16 22:40:46 i have not used the mailing list at all. Aug 16 22:40:57 eJumbo Actually, my gqview is not working. hence i want to change the themes and try again to see if it works Aug 16 22:40:57 eJumbo i dont know if we have an utility with OE which allows u to configure the themes Aug 16 22:40:57 only this irc chat Aug 16 22:41:06 not sure if it works ... Aug 16 22:41:12 at one time there was Aug 16 22:41:20 it is late, much to be done in the morning, nite everybody. Aug 16 22:41:22 eJumbo: nm, then Aug 16 22:41:26 eJumbo: no idea Aug 16 22:41:29 you should ask the gpe people Aug 16 22:41:48 #gpe Aug 16 22:41:59 themes are pretty much specific to the desktop Aug 16 22:42:34 JustinP: do u know what i problem is : Aug 16 22:42:38 not sure who else is awake that might know Aug 16 22:42:53 i can see the images only in thumbnails. if i click on it nothing happens Aug 16 22:43:16 i think you have to chaneg your "engine" do you not? Aug 16 22:43:25 eJumbo: never used that program :-| Aug 16 22:44:28 eJumbo, http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/gpe/29/2986.html is an older post ... Aug 16 22:44:32 might help Aug 16 22:45:54 http://matchbox.handhelds.org/documentation/manual/wm.html Aug 16 22:46:00 small bit about it there Aug 16 22:46:23 in my engines directory : i have only libpixmap.so. how can i add a new engine ? Aug 16 22:47:19 i might have mislead you with the engines thing Aug 16 22:47:24 read those two links Aug 16 22:48:29 Alternatively if you compiled with XSettings support, you will be able to use the Gnome2 / GPE / KDE3 desktop configuration tools to change the theme. The XSettings key used is Net/ThemeName Aug 16 22:48:29 The Window Manager distribution tarball contains three themes: blondie - a bells and whistles PNG based theme for PDA's, bluebox - a lighter XPM image based theme and borillo - a theme for larger displays. Aug 16 22:54:20 monotone.vanille.de network error: failed to connect Aug 16 22:54:31 hi all! Aug 16 22:54:37 anyone have this too? Aug 16 22:54:39 hi Aug 16 22:55:02 already tried a mirror? Aug 16 22:55:58 koobla: no ..good idea ..forgot about mirrors, thx :) Aug 16 22:56:04 I can't connect too -- seems the server has crashed once again Aug 16 22:59:45 / set up connection Aug 16 22:59:45 // basic handshaking stuff Aug 16 22:59:45 / check for existing connections Aug 16 22:59:48 whee Aug 16 23:55:03 raster, you here? Aug 16 23:56:12 is there some 3 variable e thing or what? .... i swear every function i look at has 3 variables being passed Aug 17 00:02:24 ? Aug 17 00:02:53 i think my brain is melting Aug 17 00:04:11 maybe this three thing is limited to the cookbook Aug 17 00:05:27 anyway its sleep time for me ... have phisio at 8am Aug 17 00:05:40 physio* Aug 17 00:17:02 hmm Aug 17 00:17:03 nite! Aug 17 00:17:04 :) Aug 17 00:50:20 morning Aug 17 00:55:44 XorA: hi Aug 17 00:56:14 Xora: could not make gqview to work Aug 17 01:03:37 eJumbo: :-( I cant think what is wrong, it works on arm based gpe, its wierd that it displays thumbs but not full size versions Aug 17 01:21:27 morning Aug 17 01:22:11 hey CoreDump|home Aug 17 01:25:57 XorA: how do i debug any ideas ? i get messages like : (gqview:766): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_back_pixmap: assertion `pixmap == NULL || gdk_drawable_get_depth (window) == gd Aug 17 01:26:05 when i click on the thumbnails Aug 17 01:26:49 eJumbo: that sound pretty typical GTK warnings Aug 17 01:27:08 eJumbo: but Im not a gtk programmer, I only made gqview compile in OE Aug 17 01:29:14 well, i am asking you ONLY becuase u r more knowledgeable than me!!!. Hope u didnt mind Aug 17 01:30:05 eJumbo: this si the problem, I probably am not more knowledgeable :-) Aug 17 01:30:24 Its ok. i have already put this on the gqview mailing list and not heard from them. Aug 17 01:30:28 lets see what happens Aug 17 01:31:02 Xora: thanks for ur help. for over 2 days i am beind u. Aug 17 01:31:04 eJumbo: out of interes, what CPU arch and screen depth are you on? Im not familiar with your board Aug 17 01:31:20 i am using OSK 5912 Aug 17 01:31:38 i dont know about the screen depth, how do i find it ? Aug 17 01:33:52 eJumbo: xpdyinfo and find scren#0 depth of root window: Aug 17 01:34:12 the Z I work on is 16bits Aug 17 01:40:25 i dont have that command - xpdyinfo Aug 17 01:41:30 eJumbo: oh, not a clue then Aug 17 01:43:36 morning all Aug 17 01:43:49 hi RP Aug 17 01:44:39 RP: what you fix in kernel last night, CIA is down :-( Aug 17 01:48:56 morning RP Aug 17 01:50:02 RP: have you noticed the OOM kiler on 2.6.13 is vicious Aug 17 01:53:02 hi RP Aug 17 01:58:59 woould anyone be able to help me with monotone plz? Aug 17 02:00:42 ddon;t worry bout it :) Aug 17 02:04:55 JustinP: did you try running entrance using a naked e-image (w/o GPE)? Does entering text in entrance (username/password) work for you? Aug 17 02:12:32 JustinP: I dunno what you did to make entrance work, it's still broken on a brand new image. Aug 17 02:13:33 hi to all Aug 17 02:14:00 question : there are issues with monotone present in FC4-extras ? Aug 17 02:15:09 Does OE contain any package for playing sound - I want a GUI based one(i guess madplay has a cmd line interface) Aug 17 02:15:23 i want to play mp3 and other formats Aug 17 02:16:16 gremlin[it] resolved : monotone report wrong error, it say "monotone: fatal: std::runtime_error: could not open database: /mnt/hda/oe/oe.db: unable to open database file" ... while should be "permission denied (to write/create) file" ... Aug 17 02:18:15 another question : to use oe to develop for ipaq's i need nslu2-linux and dreambox repository ? Aug 17 02:18:24 or i need only 'dev' ? Aug 17 02:18:44 only dev Aug 17 02:19:08 nslu2-linux is for the linksys nslu2. I don't know what dreambox is for, but it doesn't seem to be relevant to the ipaq. Aug 17 02:20:17 thanks pb_ :) Aug 17 02:36:06 Hello every one ! I am fighting a bit with bitbake and .bb files --- could some one please tell me how I can parse an argument to ./configure inside a .bb file ? Aug 17 02:38:07 parse? Aug 17 02:38:25 I guess you could use Python to do that. Aug 17 02:41:06 eJumbo: beepmp is there but needs 24bit screen, there is also gxine Aug 17 02:41:08 in a terminal I would do ./configure --disable-garmin Aug 17 02:47:01 what about mplayer: it requires qt ? Aug 17 02:48:33 i am looking for a light wt, simple x11 apps Aug 17 02:50:19 eJumbo: mplayer doesnt require qt Aug 17 02:50:29 eJumbo: currently it requires SDL **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 17 02:59:56 2005