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(http://colabti.de/irclogger/irclogger_log/svk?date=2005-02-16,Wed, 17:00) Aug 18 03:34:30 --> darkschneider (n=gab@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) has joined #oe Aug 18 03:39:17 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_lunch Aug 18 03:41:18 <-- odoc has quit ("changing servers") Aug 18 03:46:03 <-- eumel has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.11/20050728]") Aug 18 03:55:07 --- geojeff|away is now known as geojeff Aug 18 03:55:19 <-- LordVan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 03:59:17 --> eumel (n=chatzill@p548302A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 03:59:56 --- smw is now known as stephmw Aug 18 04:04:13 <-- cbrake_away has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 04:05:49 JustinP|zZz: I now have a working script using pre-compiles .eap's. needs some finishing in regards to subfolder (PIM/Utils etc) but it works Aug 18 04:05:57 --- CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump|afk Aug 18 04:08:10 JustinP|zZz: http://hentges.net/tmp/gpe2e.tar.gz Aug 18 04:08:46 --> eJumbo (n=eJumbo@203.196.146.243) has joined #oe Aug 18 04:11:56 --- rwhitby is now known as rwhitby-asleep Aug 18 04:14:34 --- rwhitby-asleep is now known as rwhitby-away Aug 18 04:28:51 --- reenoo_lunch is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 04:30:51 <-- tonymy01_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 04:35:16 --> LordVan (n=lordvan@gentoo/developer/LordVan) has joined #oe Aug 18 04:36:45 --- ZonE-HaKin9|FooD is now known as ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 04:39:04 <-- Timelord has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Aug 18 04:40:14 --> mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) has joined #oe Aug 18 04:45:16 03musti 07org.oe.dev * ra8e3e34b... 10/packages/fbvncserver/files/ipaq.patch: add missing ipaq patch for fbvncserver Aug 18 04:53:33 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r1a5a8146... 10/packages/findutils/ (3 files in 2 dirs): find: add -native variant Aug 18 04:54:17 --- mickey|zzZZzz is now known as mickeyl Aug 18 04:54:20 morning folks Aug 18 04:55:00 CoreDump|afk: I'm puzzled. My keyboard doesn't work in entrance now. It used to. What did you guys do to break it? ;) Aug 18 04:55:34 mickeyl: good morning Aug 18 05:03:05 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r703f6f73... 10/packages/bl/bl_cvs.bb: correct typo Aug 18 05:04:37 <-- mcfly587 has quit ("Bye tout le monde ! :)") Aug 18 05:07:38 --- ZonE-HaKin9 is now known as ZonE-HaKin9|Zzzz Aug 18 05:10:12 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r52534803... 10/packages/at76c503a/at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb: use of KERNEL_OBJECT_SUFFIX Aug 18 05:19:51 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r5273b07d... 10/packages/libvncserver/ (libvncserver_0.6.bb libvncserver_0.7.1.bb): correct typo, bump PR: on ipkg-upgrading please remember to manually remove /usr/sharefbvncserver Aug 18 05:24:14 <-- LordVan has quit ("I'm leaving now .. but i'll definitely be back ;)") Aug 18 05:28:28 --> qfh (n=qfh@ppp-62-245-208-19.mnet-online.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 05:29:14 --> stevenh (n=shelder@65.167.23.2) has joined #oe Aug 18 05:32:41 --- chouimat|Zzzz is now known as chouimat Aug 18 05:34:37 --> LordVan (n=lordvan@gentoo/developer/LordVan) has joined #oe Aug 18 05:41:22 morning mickeyl Aug 18 05:42:04 * RP is suffering lag :) Aug 18 05:47:01 <-- CP|AtHome has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 05:47:54 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.232) has joined #oe Aug 18 05:48:03 --> CP|AtHome (n=nobody@svl-ext-proxy02.amd.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 05:48:38 <-- bluelightning has quit ("bye" (null)) Aug 18 05:48:46 --- VoodooZ_Log is now known as VoodooZ_Work Aug 18 05:53:08 --> zinga (n=arnaudb@186.80-203-227.nextgentel.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 05:53:12 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 05:53:33 when i try to compile gmpc : i get the error. Aug 18 05:53:50 please see http://pastebin.ca/20314 Aug 18 05:54:28 --- geojeff is now known as geojeff|afk Aug 18 05:54:58 <-- BigAl has quit ("BitchX: the un-Cola") Aug 18 06:02:57 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.232) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:03:16 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 06:07:29 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r37956db2... 10/packages/findutils/findutils-4.1.20/ (configure.patch make.patch): add PR, replace findutils-4.1.20/ with files/ Aug 18 06:10:19 --- drw|bbl is now known as drw Aug 18 06:11:22 --> cbrake (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:12:54 --> malfi (n=malte@dsl-082-082-188-107.arcor-ip.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:13:29 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r77736f36... 10/packages/findutils/findutils-native_4.1.20.bb: yet really add PR Aug 18 06:19:31 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.232) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:20:07 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 06:23:36 --> blaster8_ (n=jonesml@user-122-216-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:23:41 <-- noclouds has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 06:24:19 --> Timelord (n=TL@216.137.177.110) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:29:22 <-- do13[offline] has quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) Aug 18 06:30:59 <-- blaster8_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 06:32:27 <-- blaster8 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 06:32:44 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r37bf3a21... 10/packages/findutils/ (3 files in 2 dirs): disapproval of revision 1a5a8146449eef0b7209e54b4ccdf42558df8ef7 Aug 18 06:32:49 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r56a384aa... 10/packages/findutils/findutils-4.1.20/ (configure.patch make.patch): disapproval of revision 37956db2991804c21644bde2b751e8733883aa93 Aug 18 06:32:53 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rda9d4e67... 10/packages/findutils/findutils-native_4.1.20.bb: findutils: re-add -native variant. there's no need to move the patches around. Aug 18 06:34:52 --> blaster8 (n=jonesml@user-122-216-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:38:44 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@nameserv2.http-tunnel.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:39:04 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_garden Aug 18 06:39:56 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 06:42:22 <-- ByronT-Away has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 06:48:57 pb_: Can you think of a reason why writes to an external io device like scoop would cause the device to lockup after a resume? Aug 18 06:49:34 (we're talking spitz here. I've tried to ensure all the memory control regs are equal before and after which they appear to be) Aug 18 06:51:19 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.193) has joined #oe Aug 18 06:51:21 RP: is it in a VLIO area? Aug 18 06:51:33 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 06:51:49 pb_: VLIO? Aug 18 06:51:58 variable latency i/o Aug 18 06:53:03 Its physical address is 0x10800000 (with another at 0x08800040) Aug 18 06:53:30 <-- france has quit ("Client Exiting") Aug 18 06:55:11 <-- cbrake has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") Aug 18 06:56:32 interesting... any students here? http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2328314834.html Aug 18 07:01:25 --> france (n=france@pool-141-154-227-206.bos.east.verizon.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:02:05 * france is away: Away Aug 18 07:03:25 <-- __law__ has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 07:04:06 --- ByronT-Away is now known as ByronT Aug 18 07:06:27 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.193) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:06:35 pb_: Yes, they're using VLIO Aug 18 07:06:50 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 07:10:30 03musti 07org.oe.dev * rdfc26f15... 10/packages/classpath/ (classpath_0.14.bb classpath_0.15.bb classpath_0.17.bb): add JNI headers into staging area Aug 18 07:11:24 <-- kolla has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 07:12:34 RP: in that case, the most likely cause is that something is holding on to the WAIT pin. It might be getting dragged down by a powered-off peripheral, or by a device whose clock is stopped. Aug 18 07:15:30 <-- kergoth_ has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 07:19:30 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r00bb9a12... 10/packages/kaffe/ (kaffeh-native_1.1.5.bb kaffeh-native_cvs.bb): add main classes (bootclass) into staging area Aug 18 07:21:07 03musti 07org.oe.dev * rd067dd8f... 10/packages/kaffe/kaffe.inc: add zip-native to DEPENDS Aug 18 07:21:15 --- geojeff|afk is now known as geojeff Aug 18 07:21:39 --> kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:21:45 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.193) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:22:00 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 07:23:47 morning Aug 18 07:24:30 <-- blaster8 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 07:24:47 morning kergoth Aug 18 07:25:05 --- CP|AtHome is now known as CosmicPenguin Aug 18 07:30:34 morning kergoth Aug 18 07:30:42 pb_: I'll have a look at that, thanks Aug 18 07:31:26 --- reenoo_garden is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 07:31:39 * kergoth pokes at monotone Aug 18 07:31:58 --> mallum (n=mallum@host86-136-16-166.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:38:27 * CosmicPenguin hands swords to kergoth to assist with the poking Aug 18 07:38:29 --> ByronT (i=ByronT@nslu2-linux/ByronT) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:38:39 --> Jenna_zzz (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.232) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:38:58 yay Aug 18 07:39:36 <-- Jenna_zzz has left #oe () Aug 18 07:42:42 --> dwildes (n=dwildes@209.164.237.195) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:43:02 --> cbrake (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:43:15 --> Timelord0 (n=TL@216.137.177.110) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:45:25 heh Aug 18 07:45:33 monotone cant handle long passphrases for its keys Aug 18 07:45:40 it shits itself, doesnt even error in a clear fashion Aug 18 07:45:41 doh, that's no good Aug 18 07:45:55 nothing like a genkey telling me to send a bug report to the devs Aug 18 07:46:15 --> obi (n=obi@asus.saftware.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:49:47 <-- Timelord has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Aug 18 07:52:21 <-- zin_ has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 07:56:15 --> Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.249) has joined #oe Aug 18 07:56:27 <-- Jenna has left #oe () Aug 18 07:58:35 mickeyl, koen|slug: sent my monotone pubkey Aug 18 08:00:11 can i use glurp as a simple mp3 player. should there exist an audio server also Aug 18 08:01:49 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r5dcfdfc4... 10/packages/avetanabt/avetanabt_svn.bb: add avetanabt. now we can use bluetooth with java (JSR-82) Aug 18 08:05:05 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_afk Aug 18 08:09:56 --> nix-nix (n=nixkoenn@host-001.192.109.111.psi.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 08:10:18 pb_: maybe you can help Aug 18 08:10:19 localedef --inputfile=/usr/share/i18n/locales/de_DE --charmap=UTF-8 --prefix=/home/root de_DE Aug 18 08:10:22 cannot open locale definition file `i18n': No such file or directory Aug 18 08:11:37 could it be a missing directory? Aug 18 08:13:31 sounds like a missing include file Aug 18 08:13:43 although the ipkg dependencies should be taking care of that. Aug 18 08:14:34 <-- TomPower has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.8/20050513]") Aug 18 08:15:26 pb_: evil me, ipkg destroys the device I'm sitting in front of Aug 18 08:15:45 <-- JuergenE has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 08:15:45 pb_: locales/i18n was missing but now it runs out of memory :} Aug 18 08:15:53 heh Aug 18 08:15:59 yes, localedef tends to do that Aug 18 08:16:08 ~lart Uli Drepper Aug 18 08:16:09 * ibot judo chops Uli Drepper Aug 18 08:17:04 pb_: we do that to create /usr/locale/*archive* ? Aug 18 08:18:18 /usr/lib/i18n/locale-archive, iirc, but yeah Aug 18 08:22:35 oom again Aug 18 08:22:49 * zecke_ stops the kernel to free some more space Aug 18 08:23:36 pb_: So if we would use qemu, we could either Aug 18 08:23:54 pb_: generate all locales, or all possible combinations of loclaes? Aug 18 08:24:23 pb_: It was wait/rdy line related. This device needs you to mess around with that line during a suspend/resume... Aug 18 08:26:23 if anybody able to help me in german by problems with oe for a new platform, please ? Aug 18 08:26:26 <-- tonymy01_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 08:27:10 nix-nix: in german it would be difficult Aug 18 08:27:23 <-- LordVan has quit (Excess Flood) Aug 18 08:27:52 --> LordVan (n=lordvan@gentoo/developer/LordVan) has joined #oe Aug 18 08:29:03 zecke_: in english it would bee difficult for me Aug 18 08:29:38 Could someone generate a german UTF8 locale please? Aug 18 08:29:47 CoreDump|afk: you seem t have enough ram? Aug 18 08:32:20 <-- eumel has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.11/20050728]") Aug 18 08:38:46 <-- eJumbo has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 08:41:01 zecke_: assuming you are on arm, you should be able to generate the locales on an i386 machine and copy them over. Aug 18 08:41:33 you might find that generating them on an old machine is helpful, since glibc 2.2 used a more convenient format for the locale storage (one file per locale, rather than all of them in one large archive) Aug 18 08:41:37 pb_: hehe that is what I did, and wanted to ask Aug 18 08:42:28 zecke_: ideally, we need someone to modify localedef to better suit our purposes. Aug 18 08:43:35 aside from the enormous RAM requirements, it also needs to be able to mmap the output file with MAP_SHARED/PROT_WRITE, which does not work on jffs2. This is why the oe postinst scripts create the locales in /tmp and then copy them to /usr. Aug 18 08:50:40 --> blaster8 (n=jonesml@user-122-216-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 08:55:40 --- XorA is now known as XorA|gone Aug 18 08:58:37 <-- dkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 09:00:45 --> [g2] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:12:02 CoreDump|afk: yes, I used a previous eap because I couldn't figure out how to make a new one Aug 18 09:12:17 --- JustinP|zZz is now known as JustinP Aug 18 09:15:28 eap? Aug 18 09:16:10 kergoth: didn't receive anything yet. try mailing it to mickey@tm.cs.uni-frankfurt.de Aug 18 09:16:26 mickeyl: k Aug 18 09:16:33 <-- zinga has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 09:17:47 mickeyl: sent Aug 18 09:18:12 mickeyl: whats your opinion on monotone currently? Aug 18 09:18:16 and received Aug 18 09:18:55 kergoth: i'm 95% satisfied with monotone. It is slow, but it is free and works most of the time pretty good. Personally, I see no reason to look for something else at this point. Aug 18 09:20:00 i'm personally of the opinion that svk wouldve been a better route, given its svn under teh hood, but actually operates faster than svn does, and has all the fancy merging capabilities and cherry picking Aug 18 09:20:07 but i'll play with mt some and see what i think Aug 18 09:20:22 welcome on board Aug 18 09:20:29 key is in Aug 18 09:20:38 thanks Aug 18 09:21:09 kergoth: e17 "app" file Aug 18 09:21:23 ah. Aug 18 09:22:03 pb_: any thoughts on the GPE X script breakout? I believe you're listed as maintainer Aug 18 09:22:39 mickeyl: heh, i expect i'll have the company i'm at convinced to switch to oe in no time :P Aug 18 09:22:47 kergoth: cool Aug 18 09:22:48 :) Aug 18 09:23:27 for what do they need a build system? Aug 18 09:23:47 mickeyl: http://www.astrocorp.com/ Aug 18 09:23:53 mickeyl: those products run linux Aug 18 09:23:59 --- reenoo_afk is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 09:25:21 <-- nix-nix has left #oe ("Client exiting") Aug 18 09:25:25 i see Aug 18 09:25:29 nice Aug 18 09:25:48 fun networky stuff to learn here :) Aug 18 09:25:59 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r299430d4... 10/packages/avetanabt/avetanabt_svn.bb: add HOMEPAGE for further informations Aug 18 09:26:07 cya later Aug 18 09:26:13 cya zecke_ Aug 18 09:27:17 * kergoth subscribes to netfilter, netfilter-devel, and netfilter-failover Aug 18 09:33:24 <-- luke-jr_ has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 09:34:59 kergoth: going to inline bitbake as a netfilter filter module? Aug 18 09:35:50 --> incinerator (n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:35:53 * kergoth twitches Aug 18 09:37:02 eh Aug 18 09:37:03 monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet c2ac746b6530e4f3394615874b3517517c9f0bc6 with unmet dependencies Aug 18 09:37:07 monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet cb42b6d6d77b84a7403569ec39f4d1317f04dcbb with unmet dependencies Aug 18 09:37:10 monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet 0856b0f11d6021c2f0e3992f3f5cb6374acbd238 with unmet dependencies Aug 18 09:37:13 monotone really doesnt like me. Aug 18 09:37:56 no, that's apparently normal Aug 18 09:38:25 --> pH5 (n=ph5@e178193072.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:38:35 weird side effect of (private) branches or something Aug 18 09:38:51 then why does it say the branches are all empty when i try to co from the db? Aug 18 09:38:54 heh Aug 18 09:39:04 ~/code/oe$ mt -d OE.db co --branch=org.openembedded.dev Aug 18 09:39:04 monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev is empty Aug 18 09:39:23 what was the pull command you used? Aug 18 09:39:36 mt -d OE.db -kkergoth@openembedded.org pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.{dev,nslu2-linux,dreambox} Aug 18 09:39:41 straight out of the phrasebook Aug 18 09:40:08 odd Aug 18 09:40:16 dunno then. sorry Aug 18 09:40:20 * kergoth sighs Aug 18 09:41:13 monotone 0.22 Aug 18 09:42:42 --- stephmw is now known as Twiun[away] Aug 18 09:43:47 --> luke-jr_ (n=luke-jr@user-0c938q3.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:45:57 mm, that can't be good. Aug 18 09:46:14 * kergoth pokes monotone with swords Aug 18 09:46:47 did you use the snapshot? Aug 18 09:47:33 i'm following the steps in the phrasebook, one by one. Aug 18 09:47:44 using a prebuilt monotone 0.22 binary for linux/glibc23 Aug 18 09:47:59 kergoth: ok...so you're trying a pull from nothing? Aug 18 09:48:16 i dont understand the question Aug 18 09:48:25 i just gave the pull command i used Aug 18 09:48:37 if it isnt correct, it shouldnt be documented as the recommended command to use Aug 18 09:48:44 no, looks fine Aug 18 09:48:50 I'm asking if you started form an empty DB Aug 18 09:48:57 if you did I suggest using a snapshot instead Aug 18 09:48:59 yes, i had just done an init Aug 18 09:49:03 ok Aug 18 09:49:04 k Aug 18 09:49:10 whats the url to koen's snaps again? Aug 18 09:49:18 <-- mallum has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 09:49:19 * JustinP doesn't know... Aug 18 09:49:25 :-| Aug 18 09:49:46 hrm, i should really enable irssi logging Aug 18 09:49:47 ~logs Aug 18 09:49:48 apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org// where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/.html.gz, or updated "nightly" Aug 18 09:50:26 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ Aug 18 09:50:29 * kergoth hugs ibot Aug 18 09:52:16 --> blgoeris (n=blgoeris@p54BF4872.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:54:23 --> gremlin[it] (n=gremlin@194-185-220-61.f4.ngi.it) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:54:37 HI to all ... Aug 18 09:55:09 hey Aug 18 09:56:02 mhh strange ... Aug 18 09:56:37 kergoth, so if your company uses it does that mean you will find the incentive to write bb2? Aug 18 09:56:49 --> ar_ (n=ar@213.211.242.214) has joined #oe Aug 18 09:56:53 emte: perhaps :) Aug 18 09:57:06 i stopedd (^C) bitbake during a download ... restarting it after a while bitbake think the downloaded part was ok and give error because iarchive (tar.bz2) isn't connect obviously ... Aug 18 09:57:26 --- NSLU2-IRC is now known as stytchwrx Aug 18 09:57:29 getting rid of the evil python memory-monster would be great Aug 18 09:57:33 * kergoth nods Aug 18 09:57:53 what memory monster are you talking about? Aug 18 09:58:09 bb rarely uses more than 100MB here Aug 18 09:58:10 connect --> correct Aug 18 09:58:37 yeah, that was after a lot of writting python a memory managment system tho Aug 18 09:58:50 gremlin[it]: so delete the downloaded file Aug 18 09:58:51 atleat i think that is what cow was Aug 18 09:59:25 but python is notorious for allowing itself to eat all the system's memory Aug 18 09:59:35 is that so? Aug 18 09:59:43 it doesnt have any checks to curb it's appetite Aug 18 09:59:44 where do these profound information come from? Aug 18 10:00:06 usage Aug 18 10:00:14 gremlin[it], JustinP: the fetcher is broken it seems Aug 18 10:00:26 it doesn't resume downloads any more Aug 18 10:00:28 i can show you python crashing a server right now if you like Aug 18 10:00:41 JustinP i know (and i did) but i remember time ago (before monotone and small memory bitbake) that thing never happen ... Aug 18 10:00:44 i can show you hogging memory in all languages i know Aug 18 10:01:15 reenoo_ yes never resume .. just restart download instead of try to uncompress partial file ... Aug 18 10:01:20 yeah, you can do it in all languages but most you need to tell it to do that Aug 18 10:03:07 <-- blgoeris has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") Aug 18 10:03:57 i actually wonder if my program now would crash a system Aug 18 10:05:01 mickeyl, for (;;) { fork(); malloc(3*zilion);} .... it's easy also in C :) Aug 18 10:05:14 yeah Aug 18 10:05:18 --> blgoeris (n=siggi@p54BF4872.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:05:44 I can't understand people measuring a high level language with the same measurements as a low level language Aug 18 10:05:56 different tools -> different tasks Aug 18 10:06:57 i don't like some languages either, but i don't try to discredit them because they're _different_ Aug 18 10:07:06 mickeyl: true Aug 18 10:09:04 only thing i don;t like of python is no bracket {} yes indentation ... :) Aug 18 10:10:13 --> borgasman (n=dddd@bl5-243-251.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:10:48 We will perhaps eventually be writing only small modules which are identified by name as they are used to build larger ones, so that devices like indentation, rather than delimiters, might become feasible for expressing local structure in the source language. Aug 18 10:10:59 (Donald E. Knuth) Aug 18 10:11:03 nothing more to add Aug 18 10:11:19 OSAMA BIN LADEN HIDDEN PLACE - ROFTLOL »» http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=103 Aug 18 10:13:13 mickeyl : hahaha ;) ... just i prefear smalle delimitiers :) :) :) ... also begin/end are toooo long ;) Aug 18 10:14:03 <-- borgasman has left #oe () Aug 18 10:15:54 --> [cc]smart (n=smart@gw.ptr-62-65-149-158.customer.ch.netstream.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:17:46 --- mickeyl is now known as mickey|bbl Aug 18 10:21:27 --- ByronT is now known as ByronT-Away Aug 18 10:23:38 mickey|bbl: well, thats exactly the point. differing requirements. if bitbake/oe doesnt really require python, then we can ditch it and save ourself the memory usage. i dont see python's memory usage being a negative, just a consequence of choosing to use it. Aug 18 10:23:42 heh Aug 18 10:23:58 --> zap (n=zap@217.170.93.196) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:31:39 --- ByronT-Away is now known as ByronT Aug 18 10:31:51 <-- pb_ has quit ("Client exiting") Aug 18 10:33:23 <-- drw has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") Aug 18 10:34:51 monotone: error: wanted 1 rows got 0 in query: SELECT keydata FROM public_keys WHERE id = ? Aug 18 10:34:54 haha Aug 18 10:34:56 * kergoth bangs head against desk Aug 18 10:35:31 uhh Aug 18 10:35:36 i go to donner Aug 18 10:35:39 dinner Aug 18 10:35:48 --- gremlin[it] is now known as gremlin[it]|feed Aug 18 10:35:56 kergoth: sound slike you're using the wrong identifier..? Aug 18 10:36:02 kergoth: what command? Aug 18 10:36:23 i removed my old db and switched to the snap, but hte snap db doesnt have the key i just generated :) Aug 18 10:36:26 switched to anon for onw Aug 18 10:36:43 kergoth: well you can export your key and import it into the new one Aug 18 10:36:56 something like: Aug 18 10:36:57 i figured that, but i already removed the old db :P Aug 18 10:37:00 so now i get to gen a new one Aug 18 10:37:02 hehe Aug 18 10:37:09 oh...yep Aug 18 10:37:13 * kergoth smacks forehead Aug 18 10:38:11 * kergoth is gonna write a monotone<->svk gateway script for his own use Aug 18 10:38:23 mickey|bbl, i actually wouldnt mind python if it (by default) would atleast kill itself before it crashed the system Aug 18 10:38:44 linux really doesnt handle oom conditions well, even now Aug 18 10:38:52 i wonder if switching to strict overcommit would help Aug 18 10:38:53 true Aug 18 10:39:01 my box at home shit itself the other day when svk went insane Aug 18 10:39:05 kergoth, i was trying to use the tailor scripts last night ... Aug 18 10:39:38 i can read then individually and understand them, .... but hell if i can follow the docs on how to use them as a whole Aug 18 10:39:43 them* Aug 18 10:39:52 --> drw (n=drw@c-67-172-219-167.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:41:24 btw what do you think of trying to multiplex a repo? Aug 18 10:41:36 multiplex? Aug 18 10:42:03 break it up into parts so you can handle sections at a time instead of the whole repo Aug 18 10:42:14 ahh, thatd be cool Aug 18 10:42:26 was thinking it would be good for low bw users Aug 18 10:42:43 not sure how you'd do it though, given the widely spread mesh of interdependencies Aug 18 10:42:49 they could take a chunk and not be so worried about a transfer error Aug 18 10:43:05 ah, you mean just for transferring, not actual use? Aug 18 10:44:09 both ... the client(s) would have a set of ignore stuff that puts it in the other repos Aug 18 10:44:29 would require some magic Aug 18 10:44:48 well, you can mirror a segmetn of a remote repo, by path, with svk. dunno about hg. svk mi svn://trunk/oe/packages/blah //oe/packages/blah works Aug 18 10:45:47 hmm perhaps thats a way to address it Aug 18 10:46:14 hg is flexible but not suitible until the python issue is fixed Aug 18 10:46:43 its fine for small repos Aug 18 10:47:07 ah right Aug 18 10:47:09 --> man-di (n=man-di@dyndsl-080-228-192-234.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:47:37 unless HP/IBM is going to give us one of thier new prototype systems Aug 18 10:47:48 which is unlikly Aug 18 10:48:04 --> eumel (n=chatzill@p54832870.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 10:49:29 wonder if i'd want to teach the svk gateway to handle branches/merges rather than just a linear mirror of org.openembedded.dev Aug 18 10:49:53 anyway kergoth did you look at the tailor scripts? Aug 18 10:49:59 not yet Aug 18 10:50:38 altho it would probably be best to write them in lisp ... Aug 18 10:50:54 if you want the extra speed Aug 18 10:51:49 * emte wishes i knew lisp Aug 18 10:52:28 url for those scripts? Aug 18 10:53:30 http://nautilus.homeip.net/~lele/projects/cvsync/ Aug 18 10:53:50 not sure if thats the newest or not ... you could pull it out of darcs Aug 18 10:55:34 monotone is missing the source stuff but is easy to add Aug 18 10:56:27 --- marceln is now known as marceln-away Aug 18 10:56:38 neat Aug 18 10:56:46 and svk is just a special case of svn.. Aug 18 10:56:58 if you can figure out how to make it behave let me know .... Aug 18 10:57:02 will do Aug 18 10:57:13 i was trying to do hg->svn last night Aug 18 10:57:23 hell if i could figure it out Aug 18 10:57:26 hehe Aug 18 10:57:36 i'll try something basic before i attempt to get monotone source working Aug 18 10:57:39 one step at a time, eh Aug 18 10:57:53 yeah Aug 18 10:58:03 man, i'm really looking forward to getting my own pc and work area at work :P Aug 18 10:58:10 i'm using the svn server as a workstation Aug 18 10:58:29 i think all the examples are cvs<->svn, darcs<->svn, or svn<->svn Aug 18 10:59:08 --- Delta__ is now known as Delta_ Aug 18 10:59:31 is anyone of you a bit familiar with all that java virtual machines that exist? Aug 18 10:59:41 wow 32 revs last night Aug 18 10:59:50 * emte isnt Aug 18 10:59:58 i generally avoid java Aug 18 11:00:09 --- Twiun[away] is now known as Twiun Aug 18 11:00:11 * Delta_ isn't neither and /me is confused :) Aug 18 11:00:13 i get bored waiting for the VM to load Aug 18 11:01:13 they need to make a PCI-hw-JVM availible Aug 18 11:01:44 This is extremely weird. When the backlight is on, I get normal looking battery readings on spitz. Turn off the backlight and the battery readings *drop* to extremely low values (4% power) Aug 18 11:01:56 I know there isn't a j2re > 1.3.1 from sun/blackdown for arm, but there is sablevm and kaffe, which still aren't that 100% compatible.. but than there is that microjava cdc thing which I don't really know if it's an option.. Aug 18 11:02:37 RP, they measure from the wrong side of the trace? Aug 18 11:02:58 who is spitz? Aug 18 11:03:10 the designer Aug 18 11:03:24 probably a current difference and a holding cap Aug 18 11:03:48 so the charge time changes Aug 18 11:03:53 what did he design? Aug 18 11:04:02 RP: heh, iirc all the sharp battery drivers had code to handle the backlight on specially Aug 18 11:04:04 ~spitz Aug 18 11:04:05 spitz is, like, the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog Aug 18 11:04:33 are they using a battery chip? Aug 18 11:04:50 kergoth: I know but there was never this much difference and spitz doesn't have that code enabled in 2.4... Aug 18 11:05:03 emte: They use a max1111 to measure the voltages Aug 18 11:05:22 emte: What circuitry there is beyond that, we have no knowledge... Aug 18 11:05:36 a dog with battery problems.. Aug 18 11:05:40 yeah then i would guess its a current change and they are measuring time after the holding cap Aug 18 11:06:09 kergoth: The only device which has a different power table dependent on backlight was poodle - the c7x0's just had a duplicate table... Aug 18 11:06:09 good ol' tau Aug 18 11:06:39 <-- gerdi__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 11:07:08 5 tau should be enough.. Aug 18 11:07:12 lower current -> larger tau -> lower charge Aug 18 11:07:38 higher current -> smaller tau -> higher charge Aug 18 11:08:13 is what it sounds like Aug 18 11:09:08 great, the manufactorers of my pxa board released a big patched oe version, but I can't decompress it because the file has errors.. Aug 18 11:09:23 ? Aug 18 11:09:33 emte: It could be. It doesn't explain why 2.4 works and my 2.6 driver doesn't though... Aug 18 11:09:56 2.4 expected the difference? Aug 18 11:10:25 it's a pxa270 board, they added it to oe and applied all kind of patches.. but the files they put on their webserver seem to be corrupt.. Aug 18 11:10:45 emte: There is no code to handle that... Aug 18 11:11:01 Delta_: URL? Aug 18 11:11:21 http://toradex.com/colibri_downloads/Linux/tmp/ Aug 18 11:11:56 sounds like something to add to the success stories page Aug 18 11:12:04 hmm Aug 18 11:13:11 heh, i know a good test of tailor Aug 18 11:13:18 i'll use it to make a local svn repo from the upstream tslib cvs Aug 18 11:14:31 RP, the 2.4 could be using a simple value shift ... that would be small and easy to miss ... Aug 18 11:14:55 i dont recall the max1111 having any special options you can configure Aug 18 11:15:12 unless ... Aug 18 11:15:17 heh, now I know why the file is corrupt.. they are uploading it right now.. Aug 18 11:15:26 do you compare against a reference voltage? Aug 18 11:15:28 that explains the tmp directory.. Aug 18 11:15:54 * kergoth downloads the IEEE standard for 802.1q Aug 18 11:16:05 q? Aug 18 11:16:32 kergoth: we should try to talk Detlef Vollmann into submitting his patches rather than publishing a tarball Aug 18 11:18:54 RP, does the 2.4 driver change the reference volatage? since the max1111 does support it Aug 18 11:19:12 voltage* Aug 18 11:19:51 --> zecke (n=ich@83-169-171-130-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 11:20:07 <-- LordVan has quit ("I'm leaving now .. but i'll definitely be back ;)") Aug 18 11:20:09 re Aug 18 11:20:43 afternoon Aug 18 11:20:46 err sorry Aug 18 11:20:47 morning Aug 18 11:24:34 hey, it's evening here Aug 18 11:24:36 get it right Aug 18 11:24:52 --> jamey (n=jamey@192.208.47.196) has joined #oe Aug 18 11:26:33 emte: I'll look into that. It doesn't explain why I'd see good voltages one minute and bad ones the next though... Aug 18 11:29:26 --> pb_ (n=pb@2002:5168:d214:1:20b:6aff:fe40:e27f) has joined #oe Aug 18 11:29:39 oh I would like an officially supported colibri in oe :) Aug 18 11:31:03 officially? Aug 18 11:31:16 more or less.. Aug 18 11:32:47 so I could pull everything with monotone, instead of having to apply the patches seperately.. Aug 18 11:33:49 Delta_: This is just a patched kernel right? There's probably no reason it couldn't go in. Just needs someone to send us the .bb file... Aug 18 11:33:57 officially would require the manuf to endores it would it not? Aug 18 11:34:47 and/or end user .. use Aug 18 11:34:53 emte: checked out the tailor tree from the 1.0 branch with darcs Aug 18 11:34:57 emte: and watched it crash & burn Aug 18 11:35:00 lol Aug 18 11:35:04 * kergoth fixed a couple stupid syntax bugs already Aug 18 11:35:17 well you got farther than i Aug 18 11:35:42 emte: holy crap, hg worked.. :) Aug 18 11:35:43 /home/kergoth/code/tailor/tslib $ svn update --quiet [Ok] Aug 18 11:35:43 Bootstrap completed Aug 18 11:35:47 i got all sorts of nice python errors that i couldnt find referenc to Aug 18 11:36:05 CosmicPenguin, good for ya Aug 18 11:36:12 no, good for you Aug 18 11:36:15 CosmicPenguin, if you update dont use the -u Aug 18 11:36:31 ok Aug 18 11:36:37 he did some patches on different files too not only the kernel.. mainly on the toolchain.. Aug 18 11:36:40 there is a new submission ... Aug 18 11:36:53 done Aug 18 11:37:00 there is an update to it now Aug 18 11:37:26 should pull the updates in less than a minute Aug 18 11:38:10 Delta_: Why does that need patching? Aug 18 11:38:11 i will probably start playing with my multiplexing idea later this weekend/next week Aug 18 11:38:11 emte: so basically, it just recreates a monotone environment? Aug 18 11:38:26 Kind of like a mirroring RCS.. :) Aug 18 11:38:31 CosmicPenguin, that is the way i set it up this time yes Aug 18 11:38:41 for transparent support of both Aug 18 11:38:42 most excellent Aug 18 11:38:49 Failure applying upstream changes: /home/kergoth/code/tailor $ svn commit --quiet --file /tmp/tailorRrqVbssvn testfile returned status 1 Aug 18 11:38:52 gah Aug 18 11:38:58 emte: how oftne do you pull? Aug 18 11:39:06 from monotone, that is Aug 18 11:39:17 ~ every hour or so Aug 18 11:39:23 ~praise emte Aug 18 11:39:24 All hail emte! Aug 18 11:39:26 if you have an rss client you can use it Aug 18 11:39:42 http://www.labotomy.net/cgi-bin/openembedded/?cmd=changelog;style=rss Aug 18 11:40:19 just dont hit the changelog link on the webpage Aug 18 11:40:58 RP: actually I don't really know.. I know there is a gcc arm softfloat patch that changes some gcc options and things like that.. Aug 18 11:42:39 emte: jesus, this is badly broken :P Aug 18 11:43:05 RP: you can see the patch here http://toradex.com/colibri_downloads/Linux/alpha/oe/oe-col-050810.patch.gz Aug 18 11:44:25 hmm... anyone that has had problems with fonts-xorg?... seems like the current flex-version messes it up... Aug 18 11:44:46 kergoth, hmm well maybe i'll abandond trying to do anything with it Aug 18 11:45:00 might explain why i couldnt get it to work Aug 18 11:46:15 emte: okay, it looks like i got it to work Aug 18 11:46:23 its just really picky about certain things, and you can easily make it break Aug 18 11:46:27 found a few bugs already Aug 18 11:46:31 but at least it works when configured right Aug 18 11:49:10 i guess it gives you a posible framework? Aug 18 11:50:23 <-- ar_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 11:54:03 yeah, exactly Aug 18 11:54:05 good starting point Aug 18 11:55:28 --> Delta__ (n=delta@p50832326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 11:55:33 Delta_: It looks to be adding some specific versions they must want for some reason Aug 18 11:56:23 Delta__: Depending on what you're doing, you probably don't need those specific versions... Aug 18 11:56:30 <-- treke has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 11:57:35 emte: heh, cvs<->svn, doing the initial population of the local tree, is fucking slowww Aug 18 11:58:12 yeah ... i was wondering about that Aug 18 11:58:23 but which part is slow Aug 18 11:58:38 --- geojeff is now known as geojeff|away Aug 18 11:58:48 csv, svn, or the parsing Aug 18 11:58:52 the 8 billion cvs commands, it seems Aug 18 11:59:01 since it has to request each and every revision of each file independently, apparently Aug 18 11:59:04 due to the way cvs works Aug 18 11:59:08 individual changes, not changesets Aug 18 11:59:12 hmm Aug 18 11:59:27 no way to track a "commit" as one entity, short of the commit message Aug 18 11:59:30 --> treke (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 11:59:36 known cvs limitation Aug 18 11:59:37 well as long as you dont sneeze on the cvs repo it might finish :P Aug 18 11:59:40 * kergoth nods Aug 18 11:59:46 hey treke Aug 18 12:00:19 hey Aug 18 12:01:27 --> ar_ (n=ar@213.211.242.214) has joined #oe Aug 18 12:02:04 <-- stytchwrx has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 12:02:13 Hmmm. The battery voltage problem appears to be pxafb related... Aug 18 12:02:31 emte: heh, too bad the cvs repo in question doesnt have tarballing enabled in the web interface, otherwise i could just grab the repo, pull it local, and do all those commands locally.. Aug 18 12:02:35 : Aug 18 12:02:36 :\ Aug 18 12:02:50 yeah ... Aug 18 12:02:57 <-- VoodooZ_Work has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 12:03:14 http://www.local6.com/news/4861458/detail.html#121 Aug 18 12:03:15 haha Aug 18 12:04:34 Investigators said the man was on his stomach when he entered the restaurant located at the 7700 block of south Orange Blossom Trail at about 2 a.m. Wednesday and surprised workers. Aug 18 12:04:37 thats funny Aug 18 12:04:58 but he ran out Aug 18 12:05:07 guess crawling was too slow? Aug 18 12:08:38 <-- Delta_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 12:09:21 emte: it worked :) Aug 18 12:09:27 * kergoth has a local tslib svn with history Aug 18 12:10:22 good good Aug 18 12:10:48 all i can say is i bet your glad OE wasnt in cvs :P Aug 18 12:11:14 kergoth: did you fix the h2200 autoconf copy and paste bug Aug 18 12:18:49 <-- NSLU2-IRC has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 12:22:51 --- Delta__ is now known as Delta- Aug 18 12:23:05 whoops Aug 18 12:23:07 --- Delta- is now known as Delta_ Aug 18 12:24:27 RP: hm, I am still not deep enough into oe and cross development to see which versions I need and which I don't.. at the moment I am happy when I get the software I need to run on the board.. Aug 18 12:25:45 toying with the pxa270 is just something I do in my spare time..when my girlfriend lets me.. :) Aug 18 12:27:58 <-- eumel has left #oe () Aug 18 12:28:11 <-- Joschi has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 12:28:22 --- blaster8 is now known as blaster8-wales Aug 18 12:31:48 zecke: i dont remember. dont think so. i'll check while i'm playing with the tslib tree Aug 18 12:36:45 --> hufnus (n=slonsiki@m761936d0.tmodns.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 12:37:20 --> dkey (i=nobody@193.170.48.236) has joined #oe Aug 18 12:38:43 hmmm Aug 18 12:38:57 ? Aug 18 12:39:03 Delta_: The "normal" versions of most things should work for you unless you have some pre compiled software which places restrictions on you.... Aug 18 12:39:18 Delta_: Spitz is pxa270 based Aug 18 12:40:03 --- reenoo_ is now known as reenoo_kitchen Aug 18 12:40:46 ./bioclient Aug 18 12:40:46 Ecore is running like a champion. Aug 18 12:40:46 Ecore_Ipc is running like a 4yr old with a cold. Aug 18 12:40:48 whee Aug 18 12:45:11 <-- ar_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 12:45:55 emte: i'm losing track of all the bugs in tailor that i'm finding. i need to make a text file with a list :P Aug 18 12:46:29 <-- blgoeris has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Aug 18 12:46:33 --> eumel (n=chatzill@p54832870.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #oe Aug 18 12:48:36 :( Aug 18 12:49:01 there is an official tailor page i think Aug 18 12:49:56 i'm using whats supposedly the 1.0 branch Aug 18 12:50:00 this frightens me Aug 18 12:50:08 http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor Aug 18 12:50:12 yeah Aug 18 12:50:13 yeah Aug 18 12:50:24 if you do a darcs checkout of the link there, it says tahts the old source,a dn gives you the url to the 1.0 one Aug 18 12:50:27 :\ Aug 18 12:51:00 BEWARE: I plan to change the user interaction in this version of tailor, mainly to uniquify the different ways of running/configuring the tool, that eventually will be labelled 1.0. Do not base your scripts on this version, or ask me before doing that :) Aug 18 12:51:00 Lele, Aug 3 2005 Aug 18 12:51:00 Current version 0.9.1 is broken, don't use it. I hope to finish the transition to the new configuration scheme in a few days. Aug 18 12:51:10 hehe Aug 18 12:51:21 kinda sounds liek a rewrite Aug 18 12:51:37 i'd rather use the bleeding edge new scheme code and just fix it :P Aug 18 12:51:41 than use old crap Aug 18 12:51:49 but is it availible? Aug 18 12:51:58 * kergoth shrugs Aug 18 12:52:01 seems to be, yes Aug 18 12:52:03 there is nothing that says access to 1.0 code is there Aug 18 12:52:07 <-- eumel has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.11/20050728]") Aug 18 12:52:26 if you check out from darcs, the connect message directs you to a 1.0 development darcs tree Aug 18 12:52:30 which is what i'm using Aug 18 12:52:32 ah Aug 18 12:52:32 hopefully thats it Aug 18 12:52:36 yeah Aug 18 12:52:45 <-- mr_claus has quit ("Client exiting") Aug 18 12:52:48 and the author usually hangs on #tailor on irc.freenode.net Aug 18 12:52:52 hey there you go Aug 18 12:52:52 there are some terrible things though Aug 18 12:53:08 could ask him if he is on Aug 18 12:53:14 i.e. the --use-svn-revprops commandline option sets a use-svn-revprops configurationi value Aug 18 12:53:19 but the code expects use-revprops Aug 18 12:53:28 just stupid obvious shit like that all over Aug 18 12:53:58 well yuo could toss it and just write a proper one ... Aug 18 12:54:20 kinda depends if he is doing it intentionally or not i guess Aug 18 12:54:43 he could be learning python writting these ... Aug 18 12:54:54 yeah thats true. bitbake was my first endeavor :P Aug 18 12:56:28 <-- CosmicPenguin has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 12:57:41 mine was by student app... which i never really used Aug 18 12:57:49 my* Aug 18 12:57:51 --> CosmicPenguin (n=nobody@svl-ext-proxy01.amd.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 12:58:13 now i barley remember how to make python add numbers Aug 18 12:58:28 hehe Aug 18 13:00:48 <-- [cc]smart has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 13:06:49 emte: it amuses me that i'm losing track of all my fixes to tailor because i'm not source controlling them. Aug 18 13:06:57 emte: failing to source control fixes to source control tools. wow. Aug 18 13:06:59 ;) Aug 18 13:10:21 lol Aug 18 13:10:29 the irony of the world :P Aug 18 13:10:52 its fast and easy if you want to use hg Aug 18 13:11:08 hg addremove; hg commit -A Aug 18 13:11:15 after each change Aug 18 13:11:59 if forget the commands for darcs Aug 18 13:12:03 i* Aug 18 13:12:13 <-- macsat has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 13:12:24 10 min to lunch mmm samosas Aug 18 13:12:33 i should teach tailor to support translation of ignore bits. .cvsignore <-> svn ignore properties Aug 18 13:12:34 wonder how the cajun one will be Aug 18 13:12:48 yes taht would be valuable Aug 18 13:13:44 hmm Aug 18 13:14:02 i must be missing something ... time to read Ecore_Ipc.h again Aug 18 13:14:17 cool, i got the svn revprop support working. so it sets the dates and authors on the svn revisions properly: Aug 18 13:14:29 r3 | rmk | 2002-01-15 07:56:48 -0600 (Tue, 15 Jan 2002) | 4 lines Aug 18 13:14:29 Tailorized "2002-01-15 13:56:48 by rmk" Aug 18 13:14:29 Implement linear xyswap option for landscape/portrait mode switching Aug 18 13:14:34 :) Aug 18 13:14:47 was already there, just needed a few minor fixes Aug 18 13:16:11 good good Aug 18 13:16:29 well that explains my issue ... it doesnt exist :P Aug 18 13:17:17 lets see ... server crash ... how do i want to handle this ... Aug 18 13:23:31 hmm Aug 18 13:24:26 --- reenoo_kitchen is now known as reenoo_ Aug 18 13:26:32 <-- blaster8-wales has quit ( (null)) Aug 18 13:30:08 <-- mithro has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Aug 18 13:35:06 <-- stevenh has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 13:39:43 --> andersee (n=andersee@codepoet.org) has joined #oe Aug 18 13:41:31 , Aug 18 13:41:32 maybe i'll skip the exit until i talk to raster ... Aug 18 13:41:50 pb_: Any ideas why completely disabling the LCD controller would cause a massive apparent drop in battery voltage whilst a quick disable of the LCD doesn't? The battery is being measured by a max111 over an ssp interface... Aug 18 13:42:16 <-- prpplague has quit ("Client Exiting") Aug 18 13:42:20 RP cap charge is my personal guess Aug 18 13:43:03 emte: But why this dependence on the LCD controller and not another heavy power user like the backlight? Aug 18 13:43:31 the LCD is by far the most power hungry component in the device Aug 18 13:43:56 normally the backlight is part for the LCD controller Aug 18 13:44:02 of* Aug 18 13:44:14 In this case its known to be seperate Aug 18 13:44:56 right, but even so the backlights are nothing more than SMT/d edgemount LEDs Aug 18 13:47:17 there would probably be some regulation hw that smooths out the "quick" disable Aug 18 13:47:46 emte: The quick disable just stops the controller dead rather than waiting for the end of frame... Aug 18 13:48:11 --> mithro (n=tim@c213-100-42-188.swipnet.se) has joined #oe Aug 18 13:48:35 and with that quick disable, battery readings don't change. With the "proper" disable, they do. Interestingly, the 2.4 kernel uses the quick disable Aug 18 13:48:55 yeah but you dont want to put huge voltage changes through the rest of the hardware Aug 18 13:49:15 but i see what your saying ... Aug 18 13:49:51 out of curiosity is this reported or measured voltage? Aug 18 13:50:09 Its the value reported by the max1111... Aug 18 13:50:37 my guess then is still that the "quick" one changes the vref Aug 18 13:50:44 and the other doesnt Aug 18 13:50:57 you would have to physically measure to know for sure Aug 18 13:51:36 The battery voltage isn't changing, I know that much. I wonder if the max1111 is connected to one of the LCD voltages... Aug 18 13:52:03 hmm Aug 18 13:52:07 that would make sense Aug 18 13:52:52 if you disabled the LCD compleatly ... Aug 18 13:53:17 do you knwo the wakeup sequence for the LCD? not the enable Aug 18 13:54:22 Yes, although I'm nervous of powering the lcd without the controller... Aug 18 13:55:15 the sequence should be for the controller ... Aug 18 13:55:18 what kind of lcd are you working with? Aug 18 13:55:27 Delta_: the one in the Spitz Aug 18 13:55:49 ah, ok.. Aug 18 13:55:49 just wakes it up so it will accept commands Aug 18 13:56:30 after that normally you tell the controller to enable the display etc Aug 18 13:56:35 I got something like this: http://pe1rct.shacknet.nu:8080/afu/localhost.jpeg Aug 18 13:56:51 atleast the ones i've worked with Aug 18 13:57:18 emte: If you delay too much with this, the lcd whites out and I get worried about it Aug 18 13:58:03 sounds like its getting a partial command ... Aug 18 13:58:15 <-- ByronT has quit (Nick collision from services.) Aug 18 13:58:15 --- ByronT_ is now known as ByronT Aug 18 13:58:24 the LCD should stay black until it receives and enable Aug 18 13:58:27 an* Aug 18 13:58:52 unless the controller itself has some type of timmer ... Aug 18 13:58:56 timer* Aug 18 13:59:09 Its a Timing Generator, not a controller (I think) Aug 18 13:59:33 Keep in mind I have no documentation, just past expereience to go on ;-) Aug 18 13:59:42 yeah .. Aug 18 13:59:43 I think I know what must happen. The controlled lcd shutdown takes a comparitive long time. The lcd gets disabled long before this completes and discharges some reference. If I do the quick shutdown, I preserve the reference. Aug 18 14:00:11 The interesting question is therefore upon resume from suspend, how do I get the reference back... Aug 18 14:00:12 --- Twiun is now known as Twiun[away] Aug 18 14:00:46 what you are saying makes sense if it is connected to the same line ... Aug 18 14:00:53 --> ar_ (n=ar@213.211.242.214) has joined #oe Aug 18 14:01:02 <-- Matta has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 14:01:14 you have a schem or images? Aug 18 14:01:26 emte: Its just guesswork though. How does the 2.4 kernel do it I wonder... Aug 18 14:01:48 emte: No schematics other than what's in my head :) Aug 18 14:01:55 --> ByronT (i=ByronT@nslu2-linux/ByronT) has joined #oe Aug 18 14:02:07 then the only way to really know is take it apart and test points Aug 18 14:02:36 --- chouimat is now known as chouimat|pub Aug 18 14:02:39 providing you have a decent multimeter Aug 18 14:03:20 emte: I have an array of stuff including a scope. I don't like poking this though, its too small... Aug 18 14:03:38 can you contact whoever wrote the 2.4 driver? and see if tehy have some docs? Aug 18 14:04:21 emte: That would be Sharp. They have docs but won't share ;-) Aug 18 14:04:25 lol Aug 18 14:04:36 no but they have been leaked :P Aug 18 14:04:45 i am sure there is a set somewhere Aug 18 14:05:03 emte: I'd *love* to see them... Aug 18 14:05:33 emte: http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/1115/pda38.htm Aug 18 14:06:59 saturday i'll see one ... i'll meet a fiend ho live in tokyo ... it bought a 3000 some months ago .. :) Aug 18 14:07:49 gremlin[it]|feed: I got mine earlier this year from Dynamism Aug 18 14:08:52 <-- incinerator has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 14:09:14 <-- ep1220 has quit ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") Aug 18 14:09:16 i want a 3100 for x-mas ... but a pure japanese one... really i don;t want to pay so much for the english rom i don;t want ! ... Aug 18 14:10:09 <-- zap has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 14:11:03 I do like this series of devices. I don't regret getting husky :) Aug 18 14:11:52 emte: What those images don't show is that the LCD panel has a sharp timing gen connected to the LCD between it and the main controller. Its the same as the one on the c7x0 series Aug 18 14:12:00 In addition, there is a small device which is called to WM8750 and the surface MAX1111 on baseplate back. As for former, with the tip/chip which is called the codec which converts the digital audio output from CPU to the analog signal, latter, it is the A/D converter in order to convert the analog signal from microphone input to the digital data Aug 18 14:12:02 interesting Aug 18 14:12:08 there two max1111? Aug 18 14:12:34 No, One MAX1111 and one WM8750 Aug 18 14:14:17 There are three devices on the ssp bus, the ads7846, the timing gen and the MAX1111 Aug 18 14:15:12 <-- smi has quit ("TTL=0" (null)) Aug 18 14:15:33 <-- mrz80 has quit ("Fly! Be free! (*fling*plummet*splat*) I... killed it.") Aug 18 14:18:05 03musti 07org.oe.dev * rd272754d... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): add apr and apr-util: needed for subversion Aug 18 14:18:09 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r3d353705... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): disapproval of revision d272754d87c0dd9b0943c987e3ec44b5e6ff7864 Aug 18 14:18:13 03musti 07org.oe.dev * ra6b994ae... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): add apr and apr-util: needed for subversion Aug 18 14:18:17 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r255e4769... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): disapproval of revision a6b994aea0347efce0b57615068f903230d4f9d7 Aug 18 14:18:21 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r325d8413... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): add apr and apr-util: needed for subversion Aug 18 14:18:25 03musti 07org.oe.dev * rbb99dcf9... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): add apr and apr-util: needed for subversion Aug 18 14:19:47 well RP if the MAX is being used for the mic it cant be used for the battery as well Aug 18 14:20:15 emte: Its not. That text is wrong... Aug 18 14:20:28 verified wrong? Aug 18 14:21:03 emte: According to the 2.4 code. I know what all 4 channels are used for... Aug 18 14:21:22 okay Aug 18 14:21:39 battery voltage, "ac" in voltage, battery temperature and the remote control on the headset jack Aug 18 14:22:55 03musti 07org.oe.dev * r845f9328... 10/packages/subversion/ (files/disable-revision-install.patch subversion_1.2.0.bb): add subversion Aug 18 14:23:08 <-- ar_ has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") Aug 18 14:23:38 emte: http://kergoth.com/files/tslibtailor.tar.gz .. extract.. cd tslibtailor; ./tailorit Aug 18 14:24:04 reenoo_: is debian/rules mandantory as shell script? Aug 18 14:24:24 rules isnt generally a shell script, its most often a makefile, with #!/usr/bin/make -f Aug 18 14:24:33 iirc Aug 18 14:25:06 so it must be executable and honors arguments/rules Aug 18 14:25:09 <-- pH5 has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 14:25:19 thats my understanding Aug 18 14:25:43 koen|slug: My iBook is finally ordered... now the endless waiting for it begins Aug 18 14:25:58 zecke: very good Aug 18 14:26:41 * zecke loves commercial IT specialisis Aug 18 14:27:28 if an app consumes 60% of CPU without even playing a DVB-H stream... and one does not recognize this as an error Aug 18 14:28:11 lol Aug 18 14:28:17 hmm Aug 18 14:28:54 looks liek there is some stuff on the usenet alt binaries Aug 18 14:29:06 it's a feature ... keeping CPU warm and ready to go :) ... Aug 18 14:29:28 gremlin[it]|feed: it is called a "Working Thread" Aug 18 14:29:36 so it is naturally it does work ;) Aug 18 14:29:38 hahah :) Aug 18 14:30:21 lol Aug 18 14:30:21 --> ar_ (n=ar@213.211.242.214) has joined #oe Aug 18 14:30:24 <-- mcfly587 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 14:30:33 kergoth, working so far Aug 18 14:30:37 :) Aug 18 14:30:42 so we at least have a working test case Aug 18 14:30:46 Bootstrap completed Aug 18 14:30:47 i expect it to explode when we try anything else Aug 18 14:30:49 but .. ;) Aug 18 14:30:50 lol Aug 18 14:30:52 run it again to pull down the history Aug 18 14:30:57 k Aug 18 14:31:20 hmm Aug 18 14:31:34 it should hide the command prompt while its doing this Aug 18 14:31:38 hehe Aug 18 14:31:57 you try "injecting" things while its running? Aug 18 14:32:02 noep Aug 18 14:33:04 it pauses and i keep getting the urge to type something Aug 18 14:33:17 must be a feature Aug 18 14:33:20 hehe Aug 18 14:33:27 maybe its my use of --verbose Aug 18 14:33:28 * kergoth shrugs Aug 18 14:33:34 try disabling verbose in tslib.config Aug 18 14:33:37 no i dont think so Aug 18 14:33:51 i think its supposed to show that only when you use --debug or something Aug 18 14:33:53 looking at the way he was handling commands Aug 18 14:33:55 but i dont think i have that enabled atm Aug 18 14:33:55 emte: The only drawback to my theory is it appears the max1111 is using its internal reference... Aug 18 14:33:57 ah Aug 18 14:34:07 ? Aug 18 14:34:24 emte: REFIN looks to be wired to REFOUT Aug 18 14:34:27 i must have missed eth part about an internal ref Aug 18 14:34:38 no tahts not it Aug 18 14:35:31 oh wait yeah it is Aug 18 14:35:47 thinking of a dif chip Aug 18 14:36:20 if taht is the case then it can only be one thing Aug 18 14:36:48 the whole chip's power is being altered Aug 18 14:37:07 which would be bad Aug 18 14:37:26 you have the first or second series 3000? Aug 18 14:38:03 emte: I don't understand that question? There is one model C3000 isn't there? Aug 18 14:38:05 kergoth, how long is this gonna take? Aug 18 14:38:27 yes there is one model but there were references to two series Aug 18 14:38:38 emte: dunno, havent timed it Aug 18 14:39:10 but they could be like the max-mic thing Aug 18 14:39:22 emte: I still don't understand what you're referring to... Aug 18 14:39:32 two production runs Aug 18 14:39:39 minor differences Aug 18 14:40:06 rev-a rev-b type stuff Aug 18 14:40:07 emte: If there were a difference like this, I'd see it in the kernel source code... Aug 18 14:40:23 <-- man-di has quit ("Client exiting") Aug 18 14:40:30 it would have to be verified Aug 18 14:40:38 to be true first Aug 18 14:41:18 <-- hanjo_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Aug 18 14:41:21 emte: I know my device works with a 2.4 kernel and would show errors if the battery voltage was this low. Its therefore something about my 2.6 code that's upsetting it Aug 18 14:41:43 the reference could be be simply about JP vs en ones ... Aug 18 14:41:47 mickey|bbl: I didn't anything :) Installing gpe-task-base fixes the problem for me. I didn't investigate any further Aug 18 14:41:52 --- CoreDump|afk is now known as CoreDump|home Aug 18 14:41:53 --- drw is now known as drw|bbl Aug 18 14:42:03 yeah Aug 18 14:42:05 re Aug 18 14:42:45 hi CoreDump|home Aug 18 14:42:49 but you also said the 2.4 only does the quick shutdown Aug 18 14:42:54 emte: there are no en C series Aug 18 14:43:26 CoreDump|home: hey, my script now adds the right icons as well Aug 18 14:43:37 no? Aug 18 14:43:43 nice! how did you manage to do that? Aug 18 14:43:44 CoreDump|home: now I just need to make it read through all the .desktop files and put them in the right directories Aug 18 14:43:49 emte: no. Aug 18 14:44:05 emte: no. The C series is JP only. They're imported into the US. Aug 18 14:44:11 good thing i didnt order one ... i cant read japanese Aug 18 14:44:17 CoreDump|home: edje_cc Aug 18 14:44:21 emte: you don't need to Aug 18 14:44:24 emte: They're simple to convert Aug 18 14:44:30 JustinP: requires /usr/bin/gcc Aug 18 14:44:30 ah Aug 18 14:44:49 RP: not that you need to "convert" it if you're flashing to OZ anyway Aug 18 14:44:53 you surely don't want to ship gcc? :D Aug 18 14:44:56 Update completed, now at revision '2005-03-01 18:18:05 by kergoth' Aug 18 14:45:01 CoreDump|home: it requires cpp, yes...not sure about gcc Aug 18 14:45:01 kergoth, your system time is off Aug 18 14:45:13 JustinP: or cpp, I forgot Aug 18 14:45:30 CoreDump|home: you *can't* add icons to eap files without edje_cc...at least not as far as I can find Aug 18 14:45:36 unless that date is something else Aug 18 14:45:42 JustinP: Indeed. Mine had the Sharp ROM on for all of about 5 minutes ;-) Aug 18 14:45:45 e_util_eapp_edit uses engrave which also seems to call edje_cc... Aug 18 14:45:57 i was using pre-compiled eap's Aug 18 14:46:01 JustinP, your correct Aug 18 14:46:06 they are quite small Aug 18 14:46:07 CoreDump|home: yeah, I noticed Aug 18 14:46:26 CoreDump|home: however, this script could be used, say, during build to create eap files...should we want it Aug 18 14:46:43 i'm all for it Aug 18 14:46:47 pb_: Can you think of any effects disabling the LCD controller would have on the rest of the system that would cause voltage issues? Aug 18 14:46:47 why would you need a script? Aug 18 14:46:59 it shoudl already compile them ... Aug 18 14:47:07 <-- gremlin[it]|feed has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 14:47:08 CoreDump|home: right now I want to have my GPE menu in e17...and this does it. If you have to install cpp on your Z to make it go...well you've already installed a bunch of GPE, why not a few more tools. ;-) Aug 18 14:47:27 <-- hanjo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 14:47:32 :\ Aug 18 14:47:40 lol Aug 18 14:47:41 overkill imo Aug 18 14:47:48 yeah just a bit Aug 18 14:47:52 emte: because I want to convert .desktop files to .eap files. And because I need to change the icons Aug 18 14:48:07 "e17 is alpha quality" Aug 18 14:48:15 JustinP, patch in the changes and let the default do it Aug 18 14:48:20 JustinP: maybe you could hack e17genmenu? Aug 18 14:48:31 <-- hufnus has quit (Connection timed out) Aug 18 14:48:31 if you don't want to install cpp don't screw with your menus ;-) Aug 18 14:48:40 emte: patch in what changes to what? Aug 18 14:48:40 or just export its eap functions Aug 18 14:48:52 CoreDump|home: you sure it doesn't *also* need edje_cc? Aug 18 14:49:04 both Aug 18 14:49:07 all of the normal fields are easily editable with eet calls Aug 18 14:49:14 the icons seem to need edje_cc Aug 18 14:49:16 edje needsc cpp Aug 18 14:49:21 I know Aug 18 14:49:24 right Aug 18 14:49:26 what's the issue? Aug 18 14:49:27 JustinP, the default theme/menu/icons you wnat to use Aug 18 14:50:09 emte: still not understanding you Aug 18 14:50:09 how large is cpp? Aug 18 14:50:41 CoreDump|home: the binary is all of 22 bytes according to ls -al Aug 18 14:50:48 oh wait Aug 18 14:50:51 that's the symlink ;-) Aug 18 14:50:53 symlink ;) Aug 18 14:51:04 90K Aug 18 14:51:08 peanuts Aug 18 14:51:15 heh and its deps? Aug 18 14:51:25 and libs Aug 18 14:51:38 righto, could easily be a few megs Aug 18 14:51:47 libgcc1 and libc6 Aug 18 14:52:06 but I agree, until somenes writes a small eap editing tool, cpp is the way to go Aug 18 14:52:24 taht exists Aug 18 14:52:27 its called vi Aug 18 14:52:33 :) Aug 18 14:52:42 nope, I checked ;) Aug 18 14:52:53 eap's = eet archivesm easy enough to create Aug 18 14:53:10 but the png inside is somehow encoded Aug 18 14:53:11 did you decompiel it first? Aug 18 14:53:35 edje_decc Aug 18 14:53:43 emte: yes....done that... Aug 18 14:53:50 emte: edje is the beast which requires cpp :) Aug 18 14:53:51 emte: so how do you get the icon in there without edje? Aug 18 14:54:05 that is the big question Aug 18 14:54:10 emte: tailor uses the checkin date/time info int eh cvs logs to figure out which individual file revisions correspond to a given "commit" Aug 18 14:54:18 emte: so that date "by kergoth" was the most recent cvs commit i did Aug 18 14:54:26 you put what you want into it Aug 18 14:54:34 kergoth, ah Aug 18 14:54:43 emte: w/o using edje, how? Aug 18 14:54:45 emte: cd tslibwc; svn log Aug 18 14:54:47 emte: :) Aug 18 14:55:09 CoreDump|home, your host will still have edje availible Aug 18 14:55:28 you do not have to enable edje_cc if i remeber Aug 18 14:55:28 but we'd need to to that on the Z Aug 18 14:55:40 to generate fance menus automatically Aug 18 14:55:51 taht is only if you want the ability to compile/decompile Aug 18 14:56:08 the menus are not generated automatically unless raster has fixed it Aug 18 14:56:19 nahhh Aug 18 14:56:31 _we_ want to setup E to do that for GPE stuff Aug 18 14:56:47 he broke that a while ago to put in the edje stuff Aug 18 14:57:03 something to do with ewl Aug 18 14:57:07 the script .desktop - eap is a piece of cake Aug 18 14:57:19 the icon inside the eap is the bugger :) Aug 18 14:58:12 yes, he reencodes it with epeg/the other one Aug 18 14:58:22 to speed up rendering Aug 18 14:59:13 right Aug 18 14:59:17 yep, e17genmenu uses engrave as well which (according to a hac I tried) also uses edje_cc Aug 18 14:59:23 there is a "menu" tool that doesnt work Aug 18 14:59:26 so we'd have to hack it out of edje Aug 18 14:59:34 ouch Aug 18 15:00:41 you could probably fix it if you wanted Aug 18 15:01:21 but you are correct that if you want to "generate" menus you will need edje_cc Aug 18 15:01:30 why exactly doesn't E grok .desktop files? and why don't you fix it to do so? Aug 18 15:01:34 <-- ZonE-HaKin9|Zzzz has quit (K-lined (null)) Aug 18 15:02:02 because raster keeps breaking it? Aug 18 15:02:12 reenoo_: because e uses binary formats for everything first off Aug 18 15:02:26 reenoo_: and because it uses "theme" type files, even for menu icons Aug 18 15:02:41 reenoo_: much easier to just convert them Aug 18 15:02:56 --- rwhitby-away is now known as rwhitby Aug 18 15:02:57 sounds a bit backwards to me, but yeah Aug 18 15:03:25 * emte wonders what i am supposed to do with tslib ... Aug 18 15:03:33 which wouldn't be so bad if there were small tools to do the job =) Aug 18 15:03:44 emte: hehe, nothing, its just an example of tailor not fucking up Aug 18 15:03:49 which i found notable :P Aug 18 15:03:53 yeah it is Aug 18 15:04:08 i fell bad doing the good ol' rm -Rf Aug 18 15:04:10 what were you looking to use it for again? monotone <-> hg? Aug 18 15:04:11 feel* Aug 18 15:04:24 <-- llagendijk has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 15:04:46 well last night i was trying to do hg-svn Aug 18 15:04:51 ah. Aug 18 15:04:59 but i was playing with the monotone source part yes Aug 18 15:05:20 for the monotone-hg Aug 18 15:05:27 you might want to keep that tslibtailor.tgz then. my modified tailor in there is less crappy for svn targets Aug 18 15:05:34 lol Aug 18 15:05:40 you submit it to him? Aug 18 15:05:51 not yet. he's on irc atm though, i expect to flood him with patches shortly Aug 18 15:05:52 :) Aug 18 15:06:28 lol Aug 18 15:06:37 he will be overjoyed :P Aug 18 15:07:16 * JustinP continues hacking on his shell script Aug 18 15:08:29 emte: he's biased towards darcs, so i expect he'll be glad to have people fixing up the other types on a regular basis :P Aug 18 15:08:54 probably Aug 18 15:09:13 hmm Aug 18 15:09:18 almost forgot Aug 18 15:10:42 <-- ar_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 15:13:20 <-- darkschneider has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 15:20:19 --- cbrake is now known as cbrake_away Aug 18 15:24:19 --- ByronT is now known as ByronT-Away Aug 18 15:25:35 <-- jamey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 15:26:26 <-- [g2] has quit ("G'nite all") Aug 18 15:31:54 * emte gets a bat for course scheduling people Aug 18 15:33:20 you would think a course that has all the classes scheduled in the afternoon would have the lab schedued then as well .... NOOO the same course with the classes in the morning has the afternoon lab Aug 18 15:33:33 taught by the same instructor Aug 18 15:34:51 RP: can't think of anything. what do you mean by "voltage issues", exactly? Aug 18 15:35:09 <-- keturn has quit ("brb" (null)) Aug 18 15:35:13 are you saying that the power supply goes out of regulation when you turn the lcd on and off? that would be a bit unfortunate. Aug 18 15:35:26 battery charge goes from full to 5% Aug 18 15:35:42 reported* Aug 18 15:37:08 --> keturn (n=kevint@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/keturn) has joined #oe Aug 18 15:40:08 <-- AdamBaker has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") Aug 18 15:42:14 * emte think i've become the slowest programmer in history Aug 18 15:42:43 i need less family members to msg me Aug 18 15:45:09 msn ... the planet of little kids and family members .... Aug 18 15:46:07 --> Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp63-196.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 15:47:24 <-- france_ has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 15:47:47 JustinP: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18026.png Aug 18 15:48:55 one may ditch the GPE subfolder and place it right into favorites Aug 18 15:49:25 CoreDump|home, impressive Aug 18 15:49:27 <-- twan has quit ("Bezig met verlaten") Aug 18 15:50:06 CoreDump|home: what is "Lost Windows"? Aug 18 15:50:15 but the real task is getting people to write apps for e17 Aug 18 15:50:23 zecke: no idea, always empty :) Aug 18 15:50:31 indeed Aug 18 15:50:34 the old pager Aug 18 15:50:47 or the handler for minimizing Aug 18 15:51:31 nope, I've minimized a console, still empty Aug 18 15:52:11 i belive that is what its for ... working ... thats a different story Aug 18 15:52:51 i forget how to find minimized windows now Aug 18 15:53:35 they are in "Windows" Aug 18 15:53:58 ah Aug 18 15:54:02 CoreDump|home: ...what did you do? Aug 18 15:54:10 i prefered the old desktop app bar Aug 18 15:54:18 (damn it, I nearly have mine done and you show up with another?) Aug 18 15:54:25 lol Aug 18 15:54:30 CoreDump|home: anyway if you know where the Window is Aug 18 15:54:37 CoreDump|home: it does not belong to Lost Windows Aug 18 15:54:37 parse the .desktop files and used "category" as subfolder Aug 18 15:54:46 zecke: ;) Aug 18 15:55:15 Lost+Found Windows might be more approriate Aug 18 15:55:16 JustinP: just the i was hacking on since yesterday Aug 18 15:55:25 lol Aug 18 15:58:46 slow arsed monotone ... Aug 18 16:00:44 ok, full run this time... Aug 18 16:03:46 CoreDump|home, i just pushed a new update Aug 18 16:03:47 * JustinP whistles Aug 18 16:04:09 a little more playing and I could have multilanguage names as well Aug 18 16:04:23 ;) Aug 18 16:04:37 more playing and you wont need gpe :P Aug 18 16:04:39 CoreDump|home: don't tell me you already did that... Aug 18 16:04:51 nope, to tired Aug 18 16:05:33 emte: monotone: 22.0k | 47.7k | 0 | 0 | 0 Aug 18 16:06:19 heh "musti" was quite busy today Aug 18 16:06:28 ? Aug 18 16:06:35 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=845f932890628e6c650909f15f2585f2b763ace8 Aug 18 16:07:37 CoreDump|home: who is musti? Aug 18 16:07:47 i've no idea Aug 18 16:08:39 --> lamikr (n=chatzill@aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi) has joined #oe Aug 18 16:10:10 <-- drw|bbl has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 16:11:08 Mustafa Yuecel Aug 18 16:11:16 http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar/280/28061.html Aug 18 16:14:41 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19575.png Aug 18 16:15:45 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19624.png Aug 18 16:16:00 what did you do to iconbar? Aug 18 16:16:17 I wasn't sure how to handle the "Categories" section so I just changed ; to /...probably wrong, but oh well Aug 18 16:16:30 emte: you mean on the bottom? that's the engage module Aug 18 16:16:34 emte: the iconbar is on the right Aug 18 16:16:47 oh, and.... Aug 18 16:17:12 * emte remembers the ufo is gone Aug 18 16:17:25 or the hamburger Aug 18 16:17:32 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19787.png Aug 18 16:17:33 then Aug 18 16:17:37 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19801.png Aug 18 16:18:15 or better Aug 18 16:18:19 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19935.png Aug 18 16:18:55 so...really....we probably don't need the menu in e at all...at least as long as you install the MB menu launcher ;-) Aug 18 16:19:01 thats cheating :) Aug 18 16:19:08 yeah, I know Aug 18 16:19:35 the only thing my converted choked on was xrandr-panelapp.desktop Aug 18 16:19:40 dur to its long Exec line Aug 18 16:19:42 due Aug 18 16:19:49 probably the " in it Aug 18 16:20:02 <-- pb_ has quit ("Leaving" (null)) Aug 18 16:20:14 nasty Aug 18 16:20:20 * emte is curious what your going to do when the application quirks hit Aug 18 16:20:28 s/"\\"/ Aug 18 16:20:33 err Aug 18 16:20:39 s/"/\\"/ Aug 18 16:21:13 but maybe the gpe people have been smarter Aug 18 16:21:20 and you wont get em Aug 18 16:21:41 * CoreDump|home hugs E17 Aug 18 16:22:00 so that is Categories actually supposed to mean? Aug 18 16:22:29 what Aug 18 16:22:33 never looked how GPE compiles its tabs/menus Aug 18 16:22:56 just like it sounds Aug 18 16:23:23 JustinP: look into the freedesktop.org spec? Aug 18 16:24:07 it's not like the .desktop format was invented for matchbox Aug 18 16:24:15 hehe Aug 18 16:24:26 or kde Aug 18 16:24:43 reenoo_: not really, no...are you referring to something in particular? Aug 18 16:25:25 JustinP: you asked a question about the .desktop spec. Aug 18 16:25:38 the spec has the answer Aug 18 16:26:14 CoreDump|home: actually, I believe had something similar first but I may be wrong on that Aug 18 16:26:23 s/had/kde had/ Aug 18 16:26:32 lol Aug 18 16:26:43 reenoo_: now that you mention, yeah Aug 18 16:27:37 didnt motif have something liek that? Aug 18 16:28:02 the funny thing is.. robert love suggested storing info from .desktop files in a db at guadec Aug 18 16:28:27 reenoo_: so there's supposed to be an XML file which shows how the menu is laid out.... Aug 18 16:29:50 * JustinP sees no menu xml file.... Aug 18 16:30:02 not that I would be able to do anything with it in shell Aug 18 16:30:15 reading all the .desktop files on startup is a bit expensive I/O wise Aug 18 16:30:57 JustinP: dunno. matchbox doesn't implement the full spec. but the meaning of the categories is the same as everywhere else Aug 18 16:31:40 * reenoo_ heads off to bed for now Aug 18 16:31:42 'night all Aug 18 16:31:58 and e normally wraps it's in edb Aug 18 16:32:00 n8 reenoo_ Aug 18 16:32:22 <-- reenoo_ has quit ("sleep" (null)) Aug 18 16:32:33 hmm Aug 18 16:33:19 is it worth using edb for biohazard ... Aug 18 16:33:41 <-- Timelord0 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 16:33:58 small applications could utilise it... Aug 18 16:34:21 JustinP: what are the three boxes on the top of your desktop? Aug 18 16:35:39 CoreDump|home: it's the monitor applet Aug 18 16:35:43 e-modules Aug 18 16:36:09 got that installed, but errr how do i enable it? Aug 18 16:38:27 hmm probably worth it Aug 18 16:39:12 --> molivier (n=mac@212.195.182.222) has joined #oe Aug 18 16:39:12 enlightenment_remote -module-load monitor Aug 18 16:39:18 enlightenment_remote -module-enable monitor Aug 18 16:39:19 thx! Aug 18 16:39:27 CoreDump|home: I *told* you to loko at e_remote ;-) Aug 18 16:39:34 :) Aug 18 16:47:16 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21400.png Aug 18 16:47:22 sweet Aug 18 16:47:24 --- rwhitby is now known as rwhitby-away Aug 18 16:51:20 yep Aug 18 16:51:22 snow as well Aug 18 16:51:31 I fixed the xrandr problem now Aug 18 16:51:40 --> ZonE-HaKin9_ (n=ZH_n_SB@220-244-127-18-act.tpgi.com.au) has joined #oe Aug 18 16:52:16 http://oe.reversefold.com/gpeEap.sh.txt Aug 18 16:53:20 --- ZonE-HaKin9_ is now known as ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 16:53:36 Morning All ;) Aug 18 16:54:01 hey ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 16:54:11 hey bud... hows things Aug 18 16:54:58 tired :\ Aug 18 16:54:58 bbl coffee time, at work todday and need sum fuel ;) Aug 18 16:55:20 hehe.. also i have sum feed back for the 5600 rom too Aug 18 16:55:34 bb in about 15min Aug 18 16:55:47 --- ZonE-HaKin9 is now known as ZH|CoffeE Aug 18 17:02:04 bedtime, ZH|CoffeE I read my logs, so feel free to comment ;) Aug 18 17:02:10 --- CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump|afk Aug 18 17:03:44 <-- Geo_KM has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 17:09:51 --> Timelord (n=TL@66.84.189.72) has joined #oe Aug 18 17:14:05 ok np, i'll msg or email u with the issues ;)....Mmmmm CoffEE Aug 18 17:15:11 <-- zecke has quit ("leaving" (null)) Aug 18 17:16:23 --- CosmicPenguin is now known as CP|AtHome Aug 18 17:18:26 --> Timelord0 (n=TL@66.84.189.72) has joined #oe Aug 18 17:37:25 <-- Timelord has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Aug 18 17:39:32 --> hufnus (n=slonsiki@m071336d0.tmodns.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 17:41:30 --> Geo_KM (n=keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com) has joined #oe Aug 18 17:43:49 damn thing ... Aug 18 17:46:43 --> malfimalfi (n=malte@dsl-082-082-193-086.arcor-ip.net) has joined #oe Aug 18 17:46:56 <-- malfi has quit (Nick collision from services.) Aug 18 17:47:10 --- malfimalfi is now known as malfi Aug 18 17:52:43 <-- ByronT-Away has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Aug 18 17:52:44 --- ByronT_ is now known as ByronT-Away Aug 18 17:56:18 --- ZH|CoffeE is now known as ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 18 18:02:02 <-- qfh has quit (Remote closed the connection) Aug 18 18:02:14 wtf am i doing ... Aug 18 18:02:30 a string isnt going to fit in one char Aug 18 18:10:17 --> noclouds (n=mhfan@60.166.58.109) has joined #oe **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 18:13:30 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 18:14:05 2005 Aug 18 18:56:44 unsigned char _server_name: (sizeof(unsigned char)); thats the same size as: unsigned char _server_name; in a struct no? Aug 18 19:16:32 emte: should be, yes Aug 18 19:17:17 yeah i was going from memory Aug 18 19:18:57 unsigned char _server_name[(sizeof(unsigned char))]; is actually what i wanted i think Aug 18 19:19:13 .....? Aug 18 19:21:24 passing it a string Aug 18 19:22:11 need the array to handle it Aug 18 19:23:28 Server Name: €®!@ , Aug 18 19:23:36 well thats an improvement Aug 18 19:23:45 atleast its ascii Aug 18 19:25:39 hmm what am i missing ... Aug 18 19:27:18 emte: sizeof(unsigned char) is 1....? Aug 18 19:27:27 I don't understand why you'd need a string of 1 Aug 18 19:27:52 you can't even have a string in there because it can't be null terminated Aug 18 19:28:04 its a struct Aug 18 19:28:08 1 byte Aug 18 19:28:15 not bit Aug 18 19:28:38 but yeah Aug 18 19:28:39 yes....and you can't put a string in 1 byte.... Aug 18 19:28:41 i see what you mean Aug 18 19:28:50 it has to be null-terminated Aug 18 19:28:58 1byte=1char Aug 18 19:29:15 what you're saying up there is the same as unsigned char _server_name Aug 18 19:29:31 only you get a pointer to it Aug 18 19:30:11 yeah Aug 18 19:30:44 good thing you noticed :) Aug 18 19:30:54 i wouldnt of saw it until tomorrow Aug 18 19:37:54 hmm where is my calculator .. Aug 18 20:06:07 AHA!! make love to me baby!! Aug 18 20:09:47 hmm Aug 18 20:10:12 i forget ... do i need to free struct memory allocations? Aug 18 20:12:30 hey raster Aug 18 20:12:36 i didnt see you come in Aug 18 20:12:44 have a question for you Aug 18 20:13:54 for the touchscreen/mouse using an ecore_config listener probably would make the most sense wouldnt it? Aug 18 20:14:43 i could use the listener and an assigned area to "switch mouse buttons" Aug 18 20:14:59 with it defaulting back after the event Aug 18 20:42:04 emte: anything you malloc you have to free Aug 18 20:42:31 yeah i didnt use (m)alloc Aug 18 20:43:01 i cant remember if freeing structs is just good form or not Aug 18 20:44:02 so what did you use to allocate your memory? Aug 18 20:44:16 assuming you allocated something you need to free it, always Aug 18 20:45:39 structs allocate a fixed block by thier assignment Aug 18 20:46:14 hmm unless i am thinking of unions ... Aug 18 20:46:39 are you allocating any memory? Aug 18 20:46:54 or are you just declaring a variable? Aug 18 20:47:10 i am decaliring a bitfeild Aug 18 20:47:19 and using it as a variable Aug 18 20:48:18 if you're not allocating anything then you don't need to free it Aug 18 20:48:29 in fact if you try you're likely to break something Aug 18 20:49:28 also, if a function you call allocs memory and hands you a pointer to it you also need to free that (assuming it's not freed by another function you call) Aug 18 20:53:10 heading out for now... Aug 18 21:18:46 hmm Aug 18 21:19:18 damn it .. why are you locking up ... Aug 18 21:29:27 grr Aug 18 21:35:54 well we wil shorcircuit ecore_main_loop then Aug 18 21:42:42 i get an internel compiler error when it tries it compile : xfBus86.c during building of gpe-image Aug 18 21:42:54 please see : http://pastebin.ca/20394 Aug 18 21:45:05 internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Aug 18 21:45:12 yes Aug 18 21:45:20 you probably ran out of room or ram Aug 18 21:48:38 mmm Aug 18 21:48:46 time for a basic server i think ... Aug 18 21:56:44 i will try restarting the machine and trying again Aug 18 21:57:08 But... Aug 18 21:57:35 it was the only process other than system process which was running on my machine Aug 18 21:57:48 i gave a build and went home Aug 18 21:58:58 * emte shrugges Aug 18 21:59:41 ok Aug 18 21:59:58 emte: has u used any mp3 players available with oe Aug 18 22:00:15 just the one that comes with gpe Aug 18 22:00:38 Just wanted to know which one of those has a decent Gui and requires very less size Aug 18 22:00:42 i dont have gpe Aug 18 22:00:53 i have just X and matchbox: Aug 18 22:01:31 How much minimum size Gpe takes: it takes around 22 MB on my machine Aug 18 22:03:09 i think familiar-gpe is ~ 16M Aug 18 22:17:48 and the time it takes to boot to too long. i am looking at someting in the range of max - 10 to 15 secs Aug 18 22:21:13 normally you only "boot" once Aug 18 22:21:22 its in standby the rest of the time Aug 18 22:21:39 well mine is something like a PDA Aug 18 22:22:07 user can switch off the pda anytime. Aug 18 22:22:30 ? Aug 18 22:22:47 when he is not using it. normally user uses it for some time and switches off when he does not want to use it. Aug 18 22:43:10 nothing like a spontaneous crash Aug 18 22:43:19 stupid mobo Aug 18 23:06:47 this is a nice warning Aug 18 23:06:54 *** ECORE ERROR: Ecore Magic Check Failed!!! Aug 18 23:06:54 *** IN FUNCTION: ecore_ipc_client_del() Aug 18 23:06:54 Input handle is wrong type Aug 18 23:06:54 Expected: 78875665 - Aug 18 23:06:54 Supplied: 87786556 - Aug 18 23:06:55 *** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!! Aug 18 23:06:57 *** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!! Aug 18 23:06:59 *** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut! Aug 18 23:07:01 lol Aug 18 23:07:18 funny response for ctrl-c Aug 18 23:08:21 hi to all Aug 18 23:08:27 now lets see if we can get a canvas .. Aug 18 23:08:29 hey Aug 18 23:08:54 who is the manteiner of h3600 oe portion ?! Aug 18 23:09:14 no one, everyone Aug 18 23:09:33 devices are not generally specific to one person Aug 18 23:11:10 mhh i'm trying to build a task-bootstrap for h3600 with kernel 2.6 ... so MACHINE=h3600 and KERNEL_VERSION="2.6" ... but kernel 2.4 was built ;( ... some suggestion ?! Aug 18 23:11:20 yes 2.6 wont build Aug 18 23:11:35 on h3600 or in general Aug 18 23:11:40 unless you want to take over trying to help with the power managment code Aug 18 23:11:48 h3600 Aug 18 23:12:39 i'm working on support for the microcontroller ot h3600 at now .... Aug 18 23:12:46 the power managment code is by far the largest obstical for most devices Aug 18 23:13:11 i would have a minimal funcional image to use as base for my tests ... Aug 18 23:13:15 do it wrong and you fry the device your testing it on Aug 18 23:13:50 mhhh from what i was the micro can't fry an h3600 :) ... Aug 18 23:14:10 i belive the sa1110 is supported in the 2.6 kernel Aug 18 23:14:28 just the power managment for the h3600 devices is incompleate Aug 18 23:15:06 also miss touch screen controller, battery status ... and other "small" things ... Aug 18 23:15:24 battery status is part of the power managment code Aug 18 23:16:45 ok but i suppose that a system still can work also without knowhing if battery is present and/or full charged :) Aug 18 23:16:49 i dont remember but i think zecke_ was working on it last Aug 18 23:17:00 gremlin[it], not really Aug 18 23:17:31 i dont even know if it is to the point that the LCD powers up Aug 18 23:17:37 mmm he left Aug 18 23:17:46 * emte shrugges Aug 18 23:19:46 back :) Aug 18 23:20:17 i said ... i just need asystem with flash/ filesystem andh sedial console working ... :) Aug 18 23:20:54 emte i dont even know if it is to the point that the LCD powers up Aug 18 23:21:22 much less can boot Aug 18 23:21:32 i suppose yes ... framebuffer is inside the SA1110 ... Aug 18 23:21:55 from what i know only missing is mine (sigh ...) Aug 18 23:22:05 ? Aug 18 23:22:15 but how i can build a h3600 + kernel 2.6 with oe ?! Aug 18 23:22:28 you can try Aug 18 23:22:40 just override the distro/machine setting Aug 18 23:22:51 i cant say it will boot Aug 18 23:23:17 emte, i have taken (long time ago) to write code to support the micro ... Aug 18 23:24:06 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "handhelds-sa" Aug 18 23:24:16 you have to disable taht line in the conf Aug 18 23:24:24 thanks !!! Aug 18 23:24:36 emte: sounds like you're getting things done with your WM Aug 18 23:24:43 good luck on getting it to post Aug 18 23:24:56 JustinP, yeah slowly Aug 18 23:24:59 emte: although I wonder with that bit of code you were having trouble with earlier ;-) Aug 18 23:25:26 it just takes a bit to remind me how to do a few things Aug 18 23:26:08 i cant say dereferencing pointrs and passing structs are things i do on a regular basis Aug 18 23:27:21 i write in asm more than c Aug 18 23:28:54 grrr again pppd still miss -lcrypt ?!?!?! Aug 18 23:29:14 * emte shrugges Aug 18 23:29:30 i am happy pppd even works on the h3600 Aug 18 23:29:33 emte: asm, huh.... Aug 18 23:29:51 yeah for PIC mostly Aug 18 23:29:56 fun Aug 18 23:30:14 i'm unable to compile it ... cause can't find crypt function ... i said it many months ago ... Aug 18 23:30:20 ::sigh::, no one seems interested in my e patch....I'm hoping raster gets to it eventually... Aug 18 23:30:34 dunno where raster is tonight Aug 18 23:31:08 well he knows I sent it, but he's on e-mail strike so who knows if he'll ever actually see it Aug 18 23:31:08 JustinP: it is waiting for me to look at it - as are all patches. which means this weekend - maybe Aug 18 23:31:17 hey raster Aug 18 23:31:53 hey emmie Aug 18 23:31:55 have to run... Aug 18 23:31:59 raster: ah, I see. Sorry for being impatient, I'll shut up about it for a while Aug 18 23:32:01 hmm do i sleep or flesh out the evas stuff ... Aug 18 23:32:04 cya raster Aug 18 23:32:12 i get the error : internel compiler error : segmentation violation when it compiles xf86Bus.c http://pastebin.ca/20394 Aug 18 23:32:13 later raster Aug 18 23:32:21 JustinP: sometiems it takes weeks for me to deal with patches Aug 18 23:32:25 so be patient Aug 18 23:32:27 lol Aug 18 23:32:31 i am trying to build a gpe-image and my machine is OMAP 5912 OSK Aug 18 23:32:33 it's happend that i may lag for months even Aug 18 23:32:38 raster: ok Aug 18 23:32:58 raster: works for me for now and is in OE so I'm ok Aug 18 23:33:02 * emte tells JustinP taht he is faster if you buy him beer Aug 18 23:33:07 heh Aug 18 23:33:13 would be happy to if I was in Japan Aug 18 23:33:21 unfortunately....I'm in California Aug 18 23:34:12 hmm Aug 18 23:34:33 ok, bed is calling Aug 18 23:34:35 night Aug 18 23:34:40 yeah me too Aug 18 23:34:42 night' Aug 18 23:36:00 whatch this, taken from pppd Makefile ---> Aug 18 23:36:04 #ifneq ($(wildcard /usr/include/crypt.h),) Aug 18 23:36:04 CFLAGS += -DHAVE_CRYPT_H=1 Aug 18 23:36:04 #endif Aug 18 23:36:04 #ifneq ($(wildcard /usr/lib/libcrypt.*),) Aug 18 23:36:04 LIBS += -lcrypt Aug 18 23:36:05 #endif Aug 18 23:36:07 <<<--- Aug 18 23:39:11 the latter test fail on me cause my crypt libs are in /usr/lib64 .. :( Aug 18 23:39:41 anyway it reference files in the host distro ... not the oe environment ... Aug 18 23:40:14 what's the link to report bugs ? Aug 19 00:09:03 i am trying to compile beepmp: it compiles fine but it does not pull pixbuf-loaders Aug 19 00:09:09 i get the message: (beep-media-player:887): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Unable to load image-loading module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aug 19 00:09:19 i have added : gdk-pixbuf-loaders in the recommends. it only putting loaders for jpeg, gif and png Aug 19 00:13:24 i am trying to compile beepmp: it compiles fine but it does not pull pixbuf-loaders. i get the message: (beep-media-player:887): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Unable to load image-loading module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aug 19 00:13:24 i have added : gdk-pixbuf-loaders in the recommends. it only putting loaders for jpeg, gif and png Aug 19 00:46:50 morning Aug 19 00:52:08 Xora: have u used beepmp Aug 19 00:52:31 when i run it on my target, i get segmentation violation. Aug 19 00:55:29 eJumbo: on mine it wont render the windows Aug 19 00:58:14 i am trying to get one nice mp3 player for 3 days and no end in sight Aug 19 00:58:19 suggest some Xora Aug 19 00:58:45 mp3 player which works Aug 19 00:58:47 eJumbo: it is something that is missing for GPE I think Aug 19 00:59:01 eJumbo: I dont know of one Aug 19 01:02:36 morning all Aug 19 01:02:43 morning RP Aug 19 01:03:01 ~lart XorA|gone for being unconnectable Aug 19 01:03:02 * ibot grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats XorA|gone until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with for being unconnectable Aug 19 01:09:31 damn that fonts-xorg, just impossible to get working with either flex 2.5.27 or 2.5.31.... the only 2 available versions from sourceforge... Does someone know of any mirror that has some older versions available of flex? Aug 19 01:20:10 ldc: try archive.debian.org? Aug 19 01:27:25 morning Aug 19 01:29:58 zecke, thanks... i'll check that out Aug 19 01:30:19 humm. I write a kbd driver at the moment, but the probe function (from the driver struct) is not called. Aug 19 01:30:30 How can I trigger a detection ? Aug 19 01:31:45 koobla: put device and driver with the same name on the platform bus Aug 19 01:31:46 btw, I used corgikbd as a template Aug 19 01:31:55 ok thanks Aug 19 01:36:16 i get an in internel compiler error: segmentation violation. Aug 19 01:36:16 please see http://pastebin.ca/20394 Aug 19 01:36:55 | xf86Bus.c: In function `xf86NoSharedResources': Aug 19 01:36:55 | xf86Bus.c:3128: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Aug 19 01:36:55 | Please submit a full bug report, Aug 19 01:36:55 | with preprocessed source if appropriate. Aug 19 01:36:56 | Send email to arm-gnu@codesourcery.com for instructions. Aug 19 01:37:07 lines 89 to 93 Aug 19 01:37:19 and I do not think, we're arm-gnu@codesourcery.com ;) Aug 19 01:37:36 i dont know why x.org is used. my hw is omap 5912 osk. i need xserverkdrive with fb Aug 19 01:37:38 maybe -03 is too much for the compiler? Aug 19 01:38:00 eJumbo: a) check what your machine sets as preferred provider Aug 19 01:38:25 eJumbo: b) set a preferred provider, consult the bitbake documentation on what a preferred provider is, and how you can set one Aug 19 01:40:24 ok Aug 19 01:41:01 zecke: thanks -- now it works. had to call platform_device_register before the driver_register.. Aug 19 01:50:35 re Aug 19 01:51:20 howdy Aug 19 01:55:20 hey Aug 19 01:57:11 what's the release() doing in struct device? I keep getting dumps on unload because its missing :( Aug 19 02:10:38 ok, seems i cannot statically define a platform device struct so that unloading works. moved into kernel init... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 19 02:59:56 2005