**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 02:59:56 2005 Aug 21 03:12:31 morning Aug 21 03:38:23 When i add a line inherit image_ipk to meta-gpe.bb ; when it tries to build rootfs -- my systems hangs. Aug 21 03:38:53 i need to restart my my system. i dont know if it is the correct thing to do. i want a meta-gpe image Aug 21 03:39:55 eJumbo: meta-gpe doesn't build a rootfs Aug 21 03:40:13 it is only a "shortcut" to build all available GPE apps in one go Aug 21 03:40:19 just like meta-opie Aug 21 03:41:01 hence i added inherit image_ipk Aug 21 03:41:50 i want to build a minimum gpe image around 12 MB. Aug 21 03:41:57 JustinP: inherit update-rc.d in entrance works as expected for me. My guess is you didn't bump PR after adding it and the ipk wasn't rebuild at all (same here) Aug 21 03:42:30 eJumbo: then you sure as hell don't want meta-gpe as it is supposed to include/build _all_ GPE apps Aug 21 03:43:06 checkout gpe-image.bb Aug 21 03:43:33 you need to configure certain variables when you inherit image_ipk Aug 21 03:59:33 morning all Aug 21 04:01:33 cya Aug 21 04:07:17 hi, do you know if openzaurus versions <3.5 are archived anywhere ? Aug 21 04:14:12 walken: nope, they are not archived anywhere as these version ha to be removed for licensing reasons Aug 21 04:14:27 eeeeeek Aug 21 04:14:28 ok. Aug 21 04:14:34 :) Aug 21 04:15:32 on the bright side, all 3.5.x versions to date are archived, mirrored and backuped;) Aug 21 04:15:59 yeah... I'm actually struggling with making things work again after upgrading from 3.3.x :) Aug 21 04:16:13 3.5.3 should work just fine Aug 21 04:16:38 I was hitting the suspend/resume issue with 3.5.3 (I have a SL-5500) Aug 21 04:16:59 there's a documented bug-fix for this problem Aug 21 04:17:13 and with 3.5.2 my host kernel does not seem to see the USB connection with the zaurus Aug 21 04:17:23 ins short: update all you kernel modules from the machine feed, then upgrade you kernel to r21 Aug 21 04:17:41 yes.... Aug 21 04:17:43 sigh, you = your Aug 21 04:18:19 will do. I was just wondering if I could just be lazy for a while :) lol Aug 21 04:18:36 :) Aug 21 04:18:55 got a SD card >64MB? Aug 21 04:19:12 hmmm I use CF... Aug 21 04:19:26 might be able to get my hands on an SD card though Aug 21 04:20:18 http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml <- requires a permanent SD or CF card but fixes the suspend problems Aug 21 04:20:33 for the lazy ;) Aug 21 04:21:02 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Aug 21 04:21:11 thanks a ton - I *love* stuff for the lazy ;-) Aug 21 04:21:29 :) Aug 21 04:26:16 morning Aug 21 04:27:11 hi reenoo_ Aug 21 04:28:28 moin CoreDump|headach **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 04:44:51 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 04:44:51 2005 Aug 21 08:02:19 hi all Aug 21 08:40:25 yOyOeK: hi Aug 21 09:09:16 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r63241dba... 10/conf/machine/h3600.conf: h3600.conf: switch to alsa drivers Aug 21 09:11:01 mhh that sound good for me ... Aug 21 10:03:10 * chouimat is away: food shopping Aug 21 10:12:41 CoreDump|bbl: that may be it....I thought I'd rebuilt it after that....oh well, as long as it works Aug 21 10:12:54 right Aug 21 10:13:54 * JustinP clears out all of his old tmp dirs.. Aug 21 10:18:09 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r42d69359... 10/packages/efl++/efl++.inc: efl++: catch up with upstream changes Aug 21 10:20:24 I was thinking about an "update-menu" style system for OZ/X11, would make dealing with E's menu a lot easier. It would also be a nice thing to have for any future DE. What do you guys think? Aug 21 10:20:52 "update-menu"? Aug 21 10:21:09 ya, like debian does it Aug 21 10:21:37 you install some fance KDE app, and update-menu does its magic to include it into the menuing system of debian Aug 21 10:21:59 CoreDump|home, one an embedded device an "auto update" system doest work Aug 21 10:22:24 and you are aware that e does have a list for ~15 apps Aug 21 10:22:26 why is that? seems simple enough to me =) Aug 21 10:22:34 they dont show up unless they exist Aug 21 10:23:02 well unless you want to shoehorn cpp onto it Aug 21 10:23:22 thats only what ... 32M ? Aug 21 10:23:55 you could just generate it with/for the apps tagged with the image Aug 21 10:24:07 emte nope, shipping pre-compiled .eap's is the way to go. A _complete_ GPE install with all its apps from gpe-task* is only 190KB in .eaps Aug 21 10:24:26 right Aug 21 10:24:41 then you dont need an update system Aug 21 10:24:48 well sure Aug 21 10:24:50 they will activate if the apps exist Aug 21 10:25:04 nope, they always show as long as the .eap exist Aug 21 10:25:16 not unless raster has changed it again Aug 21 10:25:53 the current e-image ships with firefox, gimp and xmms .eaps. They all show up in the menu but are _not_ installed Aug 21 10:26:12 yeah mine dont show up unless tehy exist Aug 21 10:26:48 interesting Aug 21 10:26:56 making it check is easy anyway Aug 21 10:27:06 just setup a ecore_listener Aug 21 10:27:39 when the apps are availible it will "hear" it and change the config Aug 21 10:27:39 but you can't possible include and pre-configure every .eap for ever X11 app. Aug 21 10:27:55 sure you can Aug 21 10:28:05 just dont expect unique icons Aug 21 10:28:34 well, unique icons are sortof the idea when we ship pre-compiled .eap's heh Aug 21 10:28:53 at the end of the image have a script that walks the the deploy dir and generate the files Aug 21 10:29:16 the pre-installed stuff isn't the problem Aug 21 10:29:23 the user-installed apps are Aug 21 10:29:48 the user apps have to be built from an e-compile to begin with Aug 21 10:30:11 unless your not changing the resize code .... Aug 21 10:30:28 huh? Aug 21 10:30:56 e uses any X11 app Aug 21 10:31:12 so any X11 app would require its own .eap Aug 21 10:31:15 pre-compiled Aug 21 10:31:29 yes Aug 21 10:31:37 so we can either ships all eap's in the e-image and update the menu's after installation Aug 21 10:31:54 emte making it check is easy anyway Aug 21 10:31:54 emte just setup a ecore_listener Aug 21 10:31:54 emte when the apps are availible it will "hear" it and change the config Aug 21 10:31:55 or include the eap in every X11 ipk Aug 21 10:33:54 emte: what do you mean by setting up an ecore_listener? In what? As has been said, e does *not* hide menu items when the program isn't there. Aug 21 10:33:54 with your method, a lot of apps wouldn't show up in the menu. Even with a default icon. We do not know every app on earth a user installs. Some apps may not even come from the OE feeds Aug 21 10:34:05 emte: unless you're talking about hiding menu items when the *eap* isn't there Aug 21 10:34:48 JustinP, i am Aug 21 10:34:58 the code must have been changed Aug 21 10:35:17 well if the eap is missing....that's different Aug 21 10:35:28 we're talking about the *program* being missing, not the eap Aug 21 10:35:33 right Aug 21 10:35:43 so you write a listener and to notify and activate the eap Aug 21 10:35:43 as was emte :) Aug 21 10:36:00 they are easy Aug 21 10:36:11 listeners are used for almost all events Aug 21 10:36:13 CoreDump|home: no, he said just now that he was talking about the eap being missing Aug 21 10:36:27 before i was Aug 21 10:36:28 JustinP: nope, scroll up. Aug 21 10:36:29 emte: are you talking about adding a listener to e-wm? Aug 21 10:36:37 CoreDump|home: I did.... Aug 21 10:36:38 another one, yes Aug 21 10:36:52 instead of some menu hack Aug 21 10:36:53 was clear to me that he did _not_ mean missing -eaps =) Aug 21 10:37:35 * CoreDump|home thinks update-menu would have a heck more advantages than this ugly hack, but bows to the masses. Aug 21 10:37:46 the listener would hear the addition of the application and add the eap into the meni Aug 21 10:37:48 menu* Aug 21 10:38:03 emte: so you'd add something to ipkg to send an event to e? Aug 21 10:38:14 if for some reason an eap didnt exist it could use a "generic" eap Aug 21 10:38:24 no, you dont need to Aug 21 10:38:41 setup a listener to listen to /bin, /usr/bin, etc Aug 21 10:38:52 which of course requires to pre-configure all existing X11 apps. Oh, forgot one? Too bad (for the user) Aug 21 10:38:56 then you dont have to touch the ikps Aug 21 10:39:06 emte: how would you know which of those installed programs goes in a menu Aug 21 10:39:12 emte: bash does not go in the e menu Aug 21 10:39:31 emte: a listener on /usr/share/applications could work Aug 21 10:39:38 as long as it installs a ".desktop" file, it should be in the menu Aug 21 10:39:41 well normally i'd hope people would install things in the correct directories, but that is unlikly Aug 21 10:39:44 CoreDump|home: I hear what you're saying...I have no idea what update-menu is, though Aug 21 10:40:03 JustinP: an example Aug 21 10:40:06 emte: you said listen to /bin. bash goes in /bin. Is this not correct? Aug 21 10:40:24 you install the Gnome suite ok? that gives you a lovely Gnome menu in the taskbar of gnome right? Aug 21 10:40:27 JustinP, was just a list of posible directories, not specific Aug 21 10:40:49 then you install KDE and that gives you a shiny KDE menu in the KDE taskbar Aug 21 10:41:00 not both together in both taskbars Aug 21 10:41:06 update-menu does that Aug 21 10:41:18 btw CoreDump|home a generate-menu does exist for e ... it is broken and it sounds liek it corrupts the db Aug 21 10:41:43 but it also requires you to have edje_cc/decc on the device Aug 21 10:41:50 you only need to update missing entries, no need to rebuild the complete menu :) Aug 21 10:42:34 CoreDump|home: when would update-menu be run? Aug 21 10:42:40 so do we adhear to a system which puts all apps in /usr/share/applications ? Aug 21 10:42:45 JustinP: from the postinst Aug 21 10:43:05 gah Aug 21 10:43:16 could be as simple as "inherit update-menu" Aug 21 10:43:24 * emte actually would liek to know for biohazard Aug 21 10:43:30 makes some sense Aug 21 10:43:41 emte: well, GPE puts all of its apps there Aug 21 10:43:47 i always thought /usr/local/share/* was normal Aug 21 10:43:57 emte: mixing .desktop and eap files? :\ Aug 21 10:44:09 emte: I'm not talking about normal, I'm saying that GPE puts it there Aug 21 10:44:22 *need an overdose of nikotine to calm down* Aug 21 10:44:30 CoreDump|home: so when an app is installed it will know which version it uses and convert to any others installed? Aug 21 10:44:31 well there is always the /var/opt/* crew as well (kde) Aug 21 10:45:05 JustinP: the theory is the following: An app is installed which provides a .desktop in /usr/share/applications Aug 21 10:45:27 update-menu is run and add this .desktop to the E menu according to its category Aug 21 10:45:43 there shouldnt be really any problem with mixing .desktop(if you really want to use it) and eap Aug 21 10:45:58 CoreDump|home: so all X apps are expected to have .desktop files then? Aug 21 10:46:01 you will run into a problem i belive tho if you do Aug 21 10:46:05 of course Aug 21 10:46:08 emte: well, .desktop *is* the freedesktop standard Aug 21 10:46:13 you may want to check with raster on that point Aug 21 10:46:25 which? Aug 21 10:46:53 got a file that i want to read a string out of... doing a STRING = `cat some_file.txt` , then later i'm going to use that STRING var for a make, so i'll do a make 'STR=${STRING}', then during the compile it seems like the whole cmd "cat some_file.txt" is stored in that var and not just the returning string from cat... :P Aug 21 10:46:54 well i belive the edc file may implement the standard in the edb file Aug 21 10:47:18 aka the theme file stuff Aug 21 10:47:40 not in xml Aug 21 10:47:54 emte: you've lost me Aug 21 10:47:59 i am not 100% on that tho] Aug 21 10:48:26 lets see ... Aug 21 10:48:50 e has ~3 levels of configuration files (which i am sure youve discovered) Aug 21 10:49:33 CoreDump|home: there's also the suggestion made by various people to add .desktop file reading/interpreting support to e Aug 21 10:49:33 the ecore-config, the edb defaults, and the edc theme/gui Aug 21 10:50:04 emte: edb defaults? For which programs? Aug 21 10:50:23 JustinP: that would of course the the easiest solution. But in any case, you've better got a way to reload the menu w/o restarting E =) Aug 21 10:50:28 not specific programs normally, interface parameters Aug 21 10:50:42 CoreDump|home: as emte said, a listener on the apps dir Aug 21 10:50:52 right Aug 21 10:51:15 would save us the headaches with .eap's too Aug 21 10:51:28 the edc on the otherhand might contain specific application settings Aug 21 10:51:55 a round xmms frame, triangle windows for status monitor, etc Aug 21 10:52:34 those are determined by the theme/gui authors Aug 21 10:52:56 CoreDump|home: assuming we can get e to load an icon image without it being "compiled" ;-) Aug 21 10:53:03 right Aug 21 10:53:15 JustinP, you can, but you dont wnat to Aug 21 10:53:29 use a generic set Aug 21 10:53:32 the whole point is to get unique icons Aug 21 10:53:52 an uncompiled icon will use far more memory and take longer to load Aug 21 10:53:54 emte: then we can just as well keep the .eap's Aug 21 10:54:12 pre-compiled that is Aug 21 10:54:41 could compress the unused eaps if needed Aug 21 10:54:45 +mhentges@mhcln01:..mhentges/own_stuff/gpe2e >du eap/ Aug 21 10:54:45 360k eap Aug 21 10:54:57 that's all gpe-task* stuff Aug 21 10:55:09 what size of images are you using? Aug 21 10:55:14 emte: wouldn't buy us much that .eap's are already compressed Aug 21 10:55:19 tho that shouldnt matter Aug 21 10:55:25 true Aug 21 10:55:27 emte: the default icons Aug 21 10:55:40 there is an alt option then Aug 21 10:55:50 would require rewritting part of it Aug 21 10:55:51 emte: the icons are cached. It would only be an initial load problem if done right. Aug 21 10:56:39 you could train it to look for the compressed icon files outside of the eap... has benifits and drawbacks Aug 21 10:56:58 benifit is size of course Aug 21 10:57:12 or you do have the tird option ... Aug 21 10:57:16 third* Aug 21 10:57:18 that would require to have both, the real icons, and the compiled ones =) Aug 21 10:57:50 actually i wonder ... Aug 21 10:58:04 if you look you might find the old menu code still availible Aug 21 10:58:20 it did things a bit different ... Aug 21 10:58:40 it didnt use individual eaps ... Aug 21 10:59:27 altho ... the easiest solution is Aug 21 11:00:10 setup a listener, add a e-walk.bb, generate and append the eaps to the ipkg like CoreDump|home suggested Aug 21 11:01:24 that will probably cause the least amount of problems if raster changes something major Aug 21 11:01:28 emte: but wouldn't this only get programs compiled into an image? Aug 21 11:02:00 why? just call e-walk after you compile your apps Aug 21 11:02:16 get it to re-package the ipk Aug 21 11:02:26 emte: after avery app? Aug 21 11:02:26 uber mehh Aug 21 11:02:36 not after every Aug 21 11:02:50 emte: and add an eap to every X app whether or not people are going to use it? Aug 21 11:02:58 this seems like a very error-prone hack Aug 21 11:03:00 get it to walk deploy and alter every package in it Aug 21 11:03:24 most people get them from a feed Aug 21 11:03:48 not much different than a machine dependancy or trying to install a gpe package in opie Aug 21 11:03:51 so....only files with a .dektop get an eap? Aug 21 11:04:32 and, again, wouldn't this add an eap to every GPE app whether or not people want it? I suppose this isn't *huge* but still... Aug 21 11:04:34 emte: sorry, but this would be an uber-ugly hack :\ Aug 21 11:04:38 * emte shrugges i am suggesting things, how you choose to do it ... Aug 21 11:05:09 i would assuse you would do it on a build-world for an e-mage feed Aug 21 11:05:12 assume* Aug 21 11:05:50 or you could get rid of the icons Aug 21 11:05:57 you dont need them to compile an eap Aug 21 11:06:25 true, but this would mean the menuw ould be ugly and adding the eaps to, say, the iconbar wouldn't work very well Aug 21 11:06:47 that is a tradeoff, yes Aug 21 11:07:08 IMO the Iconbar should be pre-configured on e-.image compile time and not touched afterwards. Users choice and stiff Aug 21 11:07:10 stuff Aug 21 11:07:44 CoreDump|home: yes, it shouldn't be touched by installs. I'm just saying that if a user added a non-icon eap it would bt fairly useless Aug 21 11:07:57 JustinP: indeed Aug 21 11:08:32 incentive to develope e-apps :P Aug 21 11:09:53 hi emte Aug 21 11:10:05 hey gremlin[it] how goes it? Aug 21 11:10:44 now boot but got problem on mounting filesystem ;( Aug 21 11:10:59 hey if it boots thats great Aug 21 11:11:03 first i have to pass via boot args the partition table Aug 21 11:11:32 second when i done i got a tons of errors and some regs dump ... Aug 21 11:11:36 i'd love to have 2.6 on my ipaq Aug 21 11:11:37 now i retry ... Aug 21 11:11:47 u have an h3600 too ? Aug 21 11:12:04 3760 specifically, but yes Aug 21 11:13:08 okay back to trying to train biohazard about themes Aug 21 11:13:17 i have an h3650 ... the firts one color :) Aug 21 11:13:31 color is good :) Aug 21 11:14:09 emte: you do, of course, have lots more experience that me with e code. I've only done a little hacking... Aug 21 11:14:21 yep i bought in 2000 ... just few after it goes out ... and 2 weeks later it became a linux machine ... Aug 21 11:14:41 i wouldnt say a lot more ... i am stumbling through it rtying to get a grasp on it all Aug 21 11:14:53 WHere can I find a list of branches in the OE repository? Aug 21 11:16:33 exist branches ?! Aug 21 11:17:18 I just found out about "monotone list branches". Looks like org.openembedded.dev is the right one except for a few specific projects. Aug 21 11:18:05 mhh baybe depend on machine ... such as zaurus on nslu2 ... Aug 21 11:24:35 nice bug :( Aug 21 11:24:39 blech Aug 21 11:24:42 * france is back (gone 19:54:47) Aug 21 11:25:00 CoreDump|home, if your using hg you need to update to 6c Aug 21 11:25:28 has a bit of an issue with files ending with .d Aug 21 11:25:41 fixed in 6c Aug 21 11:25:42 emte: I'm not :) Never was using it. You are thinking about CosmicPenguin I believe Aug 21 11:25:52 could be Aug 21 11:26:02 its the C it confuses me Aug 21 11:26:17 C is for cookie and thats good enough for me! Aug 21 11:31:21 * CoreDump|home is now known as CookieMonster Aug 21 11:37:47 lol Aug 21 11:58:28 GPE 2.7: use known working versions of atk, pango, librsvg. upgrade matchbox bits (fixes infamous "windows jump to the top left corner bug"). Aug 21 12:27:01 * chouimat is back. Aug 21 12:39:38 I'm guessing this is a fAQ, but is there anything I can do to speed up monotone pull? I'm running 0.21 and pulling the org.openembedded.dev branch from monotone.vanille.de. Aug 21 12:40:12 buy bluegene Aug 21 12:40:16 ehe Aug 21 12:40:22 or a quad opteron? Aug 21 12:40:47 Heh, I thought my 2.53 GHz P4 was pretty good. Aug 21 12:41:13 actually if you update ~ 1hr its not too bad Aug 21 12:41:36 mattcamp: you should use a snapshot, an initial upll will take ages Aug 21 12:41:39 takes 2-20min Aug 21 12:42:08 I started with a snapshot, and then I pulled an update a couple days later. Now it's been a couple weeks since I pulled. Aug 21 12:43:02 yeah its going to hurt then Aug 21 12:43:04 mattcamp: I see. Well a couple weeks will take a bit Aug 21 12:43:39 So it's best to pull daily? Aug 21 12:44:08 Or even more frequently? Aug 21 12:44:34 mattcamp: yes, if you don't want to have to wait too long for updates Aug 21 12:44:47 mattcamp: it doesn't really affetc the overall time but you'll feel better ;-) Aug 21 12:45:27 mattcamp: a cron-based pull every night would probably work fine Aug 21 12:46:44 Another likely FAQ: Why is it taking so long to process 2 MB of data from the server? Aug 21 12:47:00 (I did read the Monotone FAQ.) Aug 21 12:48:08 mattcamp: because it's doing lots of SHA-1's to make sure the data is right Aug 21 12:49:24 Ah, makes sense. Aug 21 12:50:08 I'm more used to svn (and before that, of course, CVS). Aug 21 13:24:29 so what computer games do people play these days? Aug 21 13:25:56 I generally don't play games. Aug 21 13:26:15 mattcamp: neither do I Aug 21 13:26:46 but i've found over the last week is that i need the type of mental simulation that a good game provides Aug 21 13:27:14 You mean stimulation? Aug 21 13:27:40 yeah :P Aug 21 13:32:07 i'm actually thinking an older game from a couple of years ago is best, as my gaming machine is a good 24 hours in a plane away Aug 21 13:33:00 most play wow, eq, hl2, nwn, etc Aug 21 13:33:21 depends on your pref Aug 21 13:34:08 well i'm more intrested in single player Aug 21 13:34:18 which kind of leaves out wow, eq and nwn Aug 21 13:34:44 nwn is single player if you wish Aug 21 13:36:00 I don't even know what some of those abbreviations stand for. Aug 21 13:36:01 if you want simple you could always play bzflag ... it has quite the cult following Aug 21 13:36:13 wow == World of Warcraft Aug 21 13:36:21 eq == everquest Aug 21 13:36:21 world of warcraft, everquest, neverwinter nights Aug 21 13:36:31 bah emte can type faster then me Aug 21 13:36:40 lol Aug 21 13:36:50 you probably program far faster than i do Aug 21 13:37:05 emte: i havn't really been any type of programming mode recently Aug 21 13:37:39 anyway mithro you might liek bzflag providing you have a decent connection Aug 21 13:37:43 s/been/been into/ Aug 21 13:37:54 bzflag is a multiplayer game Aug 21 13:37:57 yeah Aug 21 13:38:02 * mithro points to the single player requirement :P Aug 21 13:38:27 i am trying to think of a decent single player non-network game and all i can think of is starcraft Aug 21 13:38:43 i despise starcraft :P Aug 21 13:38:46 lol Aug 21 13:38:52 * mithro can think of many single player games which where good Aug 21 13:39:11 you could always play quake :) Aug 21 13:39:25 Beyound Good and Evil, Alice, Badulars Gate (I, II) Aug 21 13:39:52 well nwn has quite a baulders gate packs Aug 21 13:39:56 few* Aug 21 13:40:18 Ceaser 3 Aug 21 13:40:21 actually waiting for nwn2 to come out myself Aug 21 13:40:26 Railroad Tycoon 3 Aug 21 13:40:33 lol\ Aug 21 13:40:41 sim towers :P Aug 21 13:40:46 what a silly game Aug 21 13:40:59 Jedi Outcast: * Aug 21 13:41:09 Knights of the Old Republic Aug 21 13:41:15 i guess i could play the second one Aug 21 13:41:40 i lknow Aug 21 13:41:41 Prince of Persia both old and the new ones Aug 21 13:41:50 space quest !! Aug 21 13:41:58 space quest? Aug 21 13:42:06 all the ScummVM games where pretty good Aug 21 13:42:10 i've only got one here tho ... Aug 21 13:42:21 yeah you know with Roger Wilco Aug 21 13:42:29 i guess i could try and finally finish Broken Sword 2 Aug 21 13:42:39 Or for something different, there's a growing number of games that have no graphics, only sound. They're made mostly for (and by) blind people, but might be fun to play for others too. www.audiogames.net Aug 21 13:42:55 http://www.spacequest.net/ Aug 21 13:43:24 hmm Aug 21 13:43:32 i never played sq7 ... Aug 21 13:44:27 i guess i could try space quest Aug 21 13:44:53 never produced Aug 21 13:45:12 its amusing for the first bit Aug 21 13:45:46 if i can find my dics i can send you an image Aug 21 13:50:13 hmm dunno where i put it .../ Aug 21 14:18:34 'night all Aug 21 14:34:39 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r6a067ebc... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Add alsa and aumix Aug 21 14:37:28 space quest was great. and leisure suit larry.. and kings quest.. Aug 21 14:46:31 I've been looking for a nice database of old pc rpg games Aug 21 14:46:46 my gf remembers playing one in 1993, and we've been trying to figure out which one it was Aug 21 14:53:02 closest we've found is Ultima VII Aug 21 15:24:52 03daka 07org.oe.dev * rdc18eced... 10/ (.mt-attrs packages/apache/apache_2.0.54.bb): Fix apache to use openssl from staging. Fix depends on pcre and expat. NOTE: still just for native building. Aug 21 15:24:56 03daka 07org.oe.dev * r4456e15f... 10/conf/distro/openslug-native-packages.conf: Add pcre and expat, needed for apache, to openslug-native-packages.conf Aug 21 16:18:06 wasn't there a rss feed for commits? Aug 21 16:20:51 http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.rss Aug 21 16:21:02 dang Aug 21 16:21:04 http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.rss Aug 21 16:21:04 :P Aug 21 16:21:24 * malfi giggles. Aug 21 16:25:28 * NAiL mumbles Aug 21 16:30:18 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rcbb257c5... 10/packages/nonworking/alsa-driver/alsadriver_0.9.8.bb: remove obsolete alsa-driver .bb Aug 21 16:30:23 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbeee0039... 10/packages/obexpush/ (files/init obexpush_1.0.0.bb): add OBEX Push command line helpers Aug 21 16:30:28 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r280a83c1... 10/packages/obexpush/ (obexpush/add-obextool.patch files/init obexpush_1.0.0.bb): obexpush: add patch for obextool Aug 21 16:30:34 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r80954f6b... 10/packages/obexpush/obexpush_1.0.0.bb: obexpush: ship daemon in sbindir Aug 21 16:32:28 Does anyone know where I can find the generate-oe.py script mentioned in packages/python/python-2.4.1-manifest.inc? Or is that manifest edited by hand now? Aug 21 16:32:37 I googled for generate-oe.py and found nothing. Aug 21 16:34:09 generate-oe.py? Aug 21 16:34:32 personally that is the first i've heard of it Aug 21 16:34:38 whats it supposed to do? Aug 21 16:35:35 It generated the python-2.3.4-manifest.inc and python-2.4.1-manifest.inc files in packages/python, according to comments at the top of said files. Aug 21 16:36:49 I ask because I've found a few errors in python-2.4.1-manifest.inc. Aug 21 16:37:09 i dont think 2.4.1 works ... Aug 21 16:37:18 not even sure 2.4 does ... Aug 21 16:37:40 So should I put PREFERRED_VERSION_python = "2.3.4" in my local.conf? Aug 21 16:38:10 look at the familiar/oz distro files and see what they are using Aug 21 16:39:20 No indication in those files. Aug 21 16:42:24 hmm Aug 21 16:43:01 sii a all Aug 21 16:43:40 NAiL & malfi thanks! Aug 21 16:43:48 ### AUTO-GENERATED by './generate-oe.py' [(C) 2002-2005 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ] on Fri Jul 1 18:03:30 2005 Aug 21 16:43:52 ask mickey|zzZZzz Aug 21 16:43:59 might be a custom script of his Aug 21 16:48:26 looks as if 2.4.1 should build ... Aug 21 16:48:33 * emte shrugges Aug 21 16:49:55 It does. Aug 21 16:50:42 The mistakes I found in python-2.4.1-manifest.inc don't prevent it from building, but some newer modules aren't packaged, and the /usr/lib/python2.4/email/tests directory is included in python-email thus increasing its size. Aug 21 16:51:53 send a patch to the bugmonster Aug 21 16:54:51 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rbf5a1fae... 10/packages/e17/entrance_20050810.bb: Add RDEPENDS to DEPENDS Aug 21 17:58:57 hey CoreDump|home ;) Aug 21 18:06:04 yo ZonE-HaKin9 Aug 21 18:45:21 blech Aug 21 18:45:29 * emte once again tosses all the code Aug 21 19:20:42 hmm Aug 21 19:20:50 i should really switch instead ... ohwell Aug 21 19:44:44 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r566cacca... 10/packages/qc-usb-messenger/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add Logitech QuickCam Messenger/Communicate webcam kernel module Aug 21 19:44:48 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r7835ddfa... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add spca5xx and qc-usb-messenger packages to OpenSlug feed Aug 21 20:18:36 mithro: I found Half-life 2 to be very fulfilling. Aug 21 20:18:51 mithro: if you have an older machine (and can get it to run) Unreal was IMHO a great game Aug 21 21:55:33 odd odd odd Aug 21 22:56:38 raster, you in? Aug 21 22:56:54 how do i override the default ecore/ecore_config path? Aug 21 23:00:07 i donte use ecore_config as such Aug 21 23:00:12 i am note sure Aug 21 23:00:14 chekc entrance Aug 21 23:00:15