**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 15 02:59:56 2005 Sep 15 03:23:34 does anyone have a copy of the xilinx jtag adapter schematic? (xilinx-DLC5-pp2jtag.pdf) Sep 15 03:23:38 the copy on axl.freeyellow.com doesn't seem to be available Sep 15 03:26:55 koen: do you have any current poodle image? Sep 15 03:27:20 hrw|work, could you have a look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325#c9 some time? Sep 15 03:27:44 pH5: ok Sep 15 03:28:36 pH5: I cannot test it now - my husky has 2.4 kernel now and I cannot reflash Sep 15 03:29:32 hrw|work: painful :-( Sep 15 03:30:04 yep Sep 15 03:33:21 hrw|work: no poodle images here Sep 15 03:33:41 ok Sep 15 03:59:32 alright...this is a retarded question... Sep 15 03:59:45 but how do I build an image using the 2.6 kernels? Sep 15 04:00:35 LoDown|sleep: Which device? Sep 15 04:01:22 H5400 series... Sep 15 04:01:28 H5555 to be exact Sep 15 04:02:00 LoDown|sleep: KERNEL="kernel26" in your local.conf I suspect. This is all getting changed around at the moment though... Sep 15 04:02:08 ok... Sep 15 04:02:34 I didn't know if that would have any effect...as it said it was only for the Zaurus kernels... Sep 15 04:02:38 thanks RP Sep 15 04:02:49 see h3900.conf Sep 15 04:03:39 ok Sep 15 04:06:30 :-D thanks koen Sep 15 04:24:38 hi ho Sep 15 04:24:52 hey ho Sep 15 04:25:06 taking a well-deserved break from your thesis? Sep 15 04:25:11 * Twiun hides Sep 15 04:25:14 hi mickeyl Sep 15 04:25:57 mickeyl: looks like everyone push you to work on Ph.D :) Sep 15 04:26:15 heh Sep 15 04:26:19 actually that's nice from you all Sep 15 04:26:29 not irritating at all? Sep 15 04:26:30 because i really need to do more on it Sep 15 04:26:30 go mickeyl go Sep 15 04:26:37 Twiun: only slightly :) Sep 15 04:26:39 * Twiun cheers mickeyl on! Sep 15 04:26:43 mickeyl: http://www.hrw.one.pl/2005/09/15/cpufreq-on-zaurus/ Sep 15 04:26:45 /kick mickeyl go no *g* Sep 15 04:27:32 hehe Sep 15 04:27:52 hrw|work: coool! Sep 15 04:28:26 hrw|work: what did we do to 2.4 on Z? Sep 15 04:28:40 did you only flash the old kernel or a complete rootfs? Sep 15 04:29:04 mickeyl: kernel only Sep 15 04:29:19 mickeyl: see notes under table Sep 15 04:29:31 opie-sysinfo benchmarks under 2.4 kernel are unusable Sep 15 04:31:08 yeah Sep 15 04:31:35 * mickeyl closes his eyes in the sight of the number of construction sites Sep 15 04:31:45 too big difference in repeated tests Sep 15 04:34:11 Good news: my tslib patch has hit ecore-fb cvs Sep 15 04:34:45 calibration works now, so we're one step close to graphical boot manager. Sep 15 04:34:46 my metapackages hit OE yesterday Sep 15 04:35:00 very good Sep 15 04:35:21 opie-mediaplayer2 skins problem exist on my machine anyway Sep 15 04:35:31 hmm Sep 15 04:35:49 how about disabling all but one? Sep 15 04:35:59 not that they would look much different anyway Sep 15 04:36:00 heh Sep 15 04:36:01 hi drik Sep 15 04:36:05 hi Sep 15 04:36:05 dirk, as well Sep 15 04:36:17 hi dirk Sep 15 04:36:46 mickeyl: they all build - but 'build opie-image' failed for me on rootfs creation Sep 15 04:36:55 Pigi: how works on ipkg .154? Sep 15 04:37:12 hi hrw|work, mickeyl Sep 15 04:38:06 hi dirk Sep 15 04:38:50 do13: I had to adjust a couple of your patches after changes in mainline for -mm3. I've mirrored updated versions for now Sep 15 04:39:56 hrw|work, just working now. I have a doubt I have to clarify with someone ( probably pb_ ) but the big bug has been fixed. Sep 15 04:40:36 Pigi: that depends: bug? Sep 15 04:40:46 RP: Hi. I found your patches. You scrapped tosa-machine-base-r10.patch. There are some lines missing at the end of the patch Sep 15 04:40:53 yeah. The nasty one :( Sep 15 04:41:02 Pigi: could you also check does it correctly support recommends:? Sep 15 04:41:30 do13: oops. I didn't see that, sorry :-( Sep 15 04:41:41 hrw|work, what exactly do you mean ? how does recomends is supposed to work ? Sep 15 04:41:52 Or better, why do you says it doesn't work ? Sep 15 04:41:57 Pigi: I had a problem when opie-mediaplayer2 depend: opie-mediaplayer2-skin (virtual package) + recommend: opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default - in result it was not installed at all due to lack of opie-mediaplayer2-skin Sep 15 04:42:19 Pigi: opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default is normal package which provides: opie-mediaplayer2-skin Sep 15 04:42:42 RP: I corrected this. I put my version online. Sep 15 04:42:55 thats rather strange. Sep 15 04:43:34 Anyway I will release the 154 before all as the depends bug is too big to be left uncorrected for all this time. Sep 15 04:43:35 Pigi: it was only on build machine during rootfs creation. works without problem on zaurus Sep 15 04:43:55 ah. Sep 15 04:43:57 Pigi: ok - I can test later does 154 works ok Sep 15 04:44:48 do13: Actually, your -r9 was malformed - that file is listed as having 214 lines when it has 222 :-/ Sep 15 04:46:18 do13: -r11 looks fine - I'll update the .bb to point to it Sep 15 04:47:10 do13: You might want to copy the changes I make in http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/corgi_cleanup-r0.patch to do with the iomap. We don't need to do this anymore Sep 15 04:48:13 RP: thanks. I'll will look into this. Sep 15 04:52:00 pb_ ping Sep 15 04:54:28 lunch Sep 15 04:54:38 ~bon appetit Sep 15 04:54:42 i heard bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt Sep 15 04:55:20 ibot, bon appetit is also Buon Appetito Sep 15 04:55:22 okay, Pigi Sep 15 04:55:42 ~bon appetit Sep 15 04:55:44 from memory, bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito Sep 15 04:56:06 *g* Sep 15 05:11:00 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1e90bf9b... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-mm3.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Fix some of the poodle patches - it will compile without the zaurus-lcd patch now. Add some cleanup patches for old code in corgi/poodle (pushed as well). Update to a fixed patch for tosa Sep 15 05:11:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r93e4964f... 10/conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf: conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf: add i2c-pxa module Sep 15 05:16:07 '# Hic sunt leones.' Sep 15 05:16:23 from http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=257&action=view Sep 15 05:18:46 http://dc5video.debian.net/mpeg/2005-07-11/05-Embedded_Debian_Demo-Wookey.mpeg Sep 15 05:18:53 lots of references to OE Sep 15 05:26:51 how big it is? Sep 15 05:28:05 RP: could you get my zaurus-lcd-2.6.13-mm1.diff instead of zaurus-lcd-2.6.11? Sep 15 05:33:55 koen: lots of *good* references to Debian? Sep 15 05:34:02 s/Debian/OE/ Sep 15 05:34:20 The emDebian article on linuxdevices was a little mean to the OE team Sep 15 05:35:32 CP|Laptop: good references Sep 15 05:35:40 CP|Laptop: do you have an URL to that article? Sep 15 05:38:21 CP|Laptop: wookey demoed his netbook running an OE built distro Sep 15 05:44:49 hrw|work: Yes, I'm getting there. I need to check certain things out as I think that code partly made it into mainline. I know some of the rpextras patch did... Sep 15 05:45:35 koen: I'll have to track it down Sep 15 05:46:05 RP: ok Sep 15 06:26:02 hrw|work: poodle and collie are not at all well in our tree. It really needs John to update his patches as these ones we're using are massively out of date :-( Sep 15 06:26:53 The lcd patch is the least of our worries as we also need the -base, and -local patches to get a working device Sep 15 06:28:42 maybe mark collie/poodle as broken inside? Sep 15 06:29:09 hrw|work: They will work with more limited functionality without these patches... Sep 15 06:29:35 hrw|work: I think I'll just drop John's patches for now... Sep 15 06:29:57 hrw|work: Unless someone wants to try and update the -local and -base patches to apply against the current tree... Sep 15 06:30:07 morning Sep 15 06:30:13 hey chouimat Sep 15 06:30:15 I've sent a couple of obvious fixes to rmk to unbreak mainline... Sep 15 06:30:18 hi chouimat Sep 15 06:31:23 I think a lot of the changes in -base have been pushed... Sep 15 06:31:43 RP: I guess it won't get us anywhere to send yet another call for pariticipation about collie/poodle 2.6 to oz-devel, what do you think? Sep 15 06:32:12 mickeyl: The code is in a good state and it wouldn't take much to improve it a lot. I'd make a call Sep 15 06:32:27 RP: can you do that now? Sep 15 06:32:34 mickeyl: but keep in mind JL was resurfacing in theory... Sep 15 06:32:46 mickeyl: ok Sep 15 06:33:29 thanks. i guess crossposting to kernel-discuss and openzaurus-devel would be good. perhaps with a note that the previous hopemaintainer is missing in action ;) Sep 15 06:33:55 s/hope/hope^w/ Sep 15 06:34:12 mickeyl: Like I said, JL did resurface recently - promised patches soon - that was a week ago Sep 15 06:34:21 oh Sep 15 06:34:26 i missed that Sep 15 06:34:31 to you directly? Sep 15 06:34:32 mickeyl: He posted to LKML Sep 15 06:34:37 To Pavel Sep 15 06:34:38 hmm Sep 15 06:34:39 k Sep 15 06:35:02 In the meantime, I'm pushing some patches to patch poodle and collie up a bit Sep 15 06:35:16 ok, good Sep 15 06:35:25 keep rmk happy as someone's taking an interest in them ;-) Sep 15 06:36:08 yeah Sep 15 06:37:38 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.kernel/msg/4a8203ab034c8195 Sep 15 06:37:57 excellent Sep 15 06:38:55 I have one entry in bookmarks: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.kernel/search?q=Purdie&start=0&scoring=d& Sep 15 06:39:12 easy way to trace zaurus on lkml Sep 15 06:41:03 hehe :) Sep 15 06:41:58 another link is linux-arm archives but without searching Sep 15 06:48:25 re Sep 15 06:53:54 RP: Ok I cleaned the iomap. It's now in tosa-machine-base-r12.patch Sep 15 06:54:12 http://vanille.de/temp/angstrom-calibrate.png Sep 15 06:54:29 mickeyl: nice Sep 15 06:54:33 :) Sep 15 06:54:39 sweet! Sep 15 06:54:43 mickeyl: can you put crosshairs on crossings? Sep 15 06:55:39 ? Sep 15 06:55:49 line it up with the background Sep 15 06:55:55 exactly Sep 15 06:55:58 aah Sep 15 06:56:21 hmm, yes, that should be no problem Sep 15 06:56:23 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re7dc8e9d... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-mm3.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Update collie/poodle - comment broken patches, add collie fix Sep 15 06:56:24 and can you make the crosshaird rotate when you touch them? Sep 15 06:56:45 heh Sep 15 06:57:02 lets see... it already moves slowly from one point to the next, but I'll look into rotation as well :D Sep 15 06:57:15 As the animation, you could make it spin and fade out then fade in rotating elsewhere Sep 15 06:57:31 hmm.. http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/pavel/zaurus.git;a=summary looks interesting Sep 15 06:58:13 hmm Sep 15 06:58:22 * mickeyl loves the idea of a rotating crosshair Sep 15 06:58:24 * mickeyl opens gimp Sep 15 06:59:01 hrw|work: See the comment in the commit I just made to OE ;-) Sep 15 06:59:16 cool Sep 15 06:59:28 hrw|work: You'll see I've had influence over some of the code in Pavel's tree ;-) Sep 15 06:59:50 The "I've just sent Russell" is part of an email I sent him... Sep 15 07:01:17 pxa2xx_sharpsl used by collie - funny. Sep 15 07:01:45 I'd be a bit more happy if I would get the feeling he wants to cooperate with us Sep 15 07:01:47 *shrug* Sep 15 07:02:05 OT: how many rotation steps do we want for a smooth rotation? 4 ? 8? 10? Sep 15 07:02:30 at least 8 Sep 15 07:02:43 it also depends on the speed of rotation Sep 15 07:02:53 D'oh Sep 15 07:03:22 4 would be enough, since the crosshair has radial symetry Sep 15 07:03:26 ~spell symetry Sep 15 07:03:29 possible spellings for symetry: symmetry summitry asymmetry Sumatra cemetery smeary Sumter sentry summery symmetry's symmetric smarty mystery metro Sep 15 07:03:53 ~spell kuchnia Sep 15 07:03:55 possible spellings for kuchnia: kuchen kuchens China china Junia kuchen's Kuhn Kirchner Cochin Kania couching kitchen caching gushing urchin Chin chin zucchini Shina chine chino Channa Koch Ch'in Sep 15 07:04:05 ibot: good Sep 15 07:04:07 rumour has it, good is an adjective Sep 15 07:04:32 mickeyl: He is kind of cooperating - he listens to what we suggest about the way to implement things. He just doesn't merge his work back into OE, keeping it in his git tree... Sep 15 07:04:35 "As we are getting closer to the release date of the Nokia 770 Internet tablet, the Developer Device Program will also be closed. The interest generated by the program was enormous and we here at the maemo team are very delighted and thankful of all the project ideas we received. We are still going through the last applications and we will soon start sending out the discount codes to the chosen participants." Sep 15 07:05:08 RP: ok, fair enough. Sep 15 07:05:10 koen: yeeeah! Sep 15 07:08:22 hey mickeyl Sep 15 07:08:37 i was going to ask you something last night but you kind of disappeared Sep 15 07:08:42 and now i have totally forgotten Sep 15 07:12:19 mithro: gettin' ole', eh? :) Sep 15 07:12:30 mithro: did it have something to do with LCA2006? Sep 15 07:13:36 RP: Could you add tosa-machine-base-r12.patch + tosa-bl-r6.patch Sep 15 07:16:52 do13: certainly Sep 15 07:17:39 mickeyl: and can you make the sun come up from behind the pyramid after a succesfull calibration? Sep 15 07:17:44 mickeyl: ;) Sep 15 07:18:10 koen: and let 'Tada!' sound from speaker(s) Sep 15 07:18:25 no, carmina burana from carl orff Sep 15 07:18:47 in .ogg format? Sep 15 07:18:56 hrw|work: Chevron 7 locked Sep 15 07:19:16 XorA: :) Sep 15 07:20:06 XorA: let's run angstrom on http://platformx.sourceforge.net/ Sep 15 07:21:55 koen: heh heh Sep 15 07:22:31 koen: we just need mickeyl to change his name to Richard Dean Anderson Sep 15 07:22:44 koen: sound is planned - of course :D about the sun... not sure yet ;) Sep 15 07:23:07 we're not wanting to turn calibration into a videogame or do we? :D Sep 15 07:23:08 XorA: that one who played MacGyver? Sep 15 07:23:19 hrw|work: yes, and the guy who owns Stargate Sep 15 07:23:20 mickeyl: Why not? :) Sep 15 07:23:24 hrw|work: as well as staring in it Sep 15 07:23:45 mickeyl: if you make crosshairs floating over screen when user calibrate... Sep 15 07:24:13 XorA: Stargate is something which does not turn on light in my brain Sep 15 07:24:31 http://gateworld.net/ Sep 15 07:25:27 Stargate goodness obviously not got that far east yet :-) Sep 15 07:25:51 koen: thx - anyway I wont rather watch this - dont plan to fetch it from p2p and dont think that any tv here will show it on good time Sep 15 07:26:04 XorA: neither startrek Sep 15 07:28:26 hrw|work: Geek Hell :-) Sep 15 07:30:34 XorA: coldwar etc.. made this - you know.. Sep 15 07:37:47 RP: when fetching using cogito what takes so much time after 98% fetched? Sep 15 07:39:39 uf.. finished that step Sep 15 07:49:23 RP: when you will became official zaurus maintainer in linux/MAINTAINERS? :) Sep 15 07:50:41 hrw|work: I think I am, aren't I? Sep 15 07:50:54 hrw|work: I've never used cognito - I just use raw git Sep 15 07:51:07 maybe I looked into old tree here Sep 15 07:51:18 Hehe - raw git Sep 15 07:51:28 and even then bitbake handles git for me... Sep 15 07:51:43 RP: yep.. I looked into old tree Sep 15 07:51:49 ARM/CORGI Sep 15 07:52:12 hrw|work: It was a condition of adding the machine that I became a maintainer Sep 15 07:54:38 ah. Sep 15 08:06:19 later all Sep 15 08:17:05 mickeyl, i like the angstrom calibration screen...much goodness :-D Sep 15 08:21:19 hey guys...i'm getting an error trying to build handhelds-pxa-2.6-2.6.12-hh2 Sep 15 08:21:33 it seems some types aren't defined, or are being redefined... Sep 15 08:22:07 it is choking on arch/arm/nwfpe/softfloat.c Sep 15 08:22:09 :( Sep 15 08:23:10 Lodown: You probably need to ask hh.org to fix their kernel then... Sep 15 08:23:31 ok :-D Sep 15 08:23:33 thanks Sep 15 08:34:42 cu Sep 15 09:05:40 hi Sep 15 09:08:18 someone did build with machine=native? Sep 15 09:39:25 hello........ Sep 15 09:39:40 i got one error while doing bitbake Sep 15 09:41:26 freetype-native ... Makefile:too many open files Sep 15 09:41:47 z-akita: increase your file descriptor limit Sep 15 09:42:24 mithro: how to increase the limit? Sep 15 09:44:49 hi :) can I update image without the hdimage and the privit root Sep 15 09:45:33 mithro: my ulimit -Hn is 1024 Sep 15 09:45:53 someone know how to remove comments from png pictures? Sep 15 09:47:19 z-akita: something in /proc maybe? try a higher ulimit? Sep 15 09:48:06 maybe /proc/sys/fs/file-max ? Sep 15 09:50:42 this time it give me segmentation fault Sep 15 09:51:09 i set the ulimit to 16000 Sep 15 09:53:07 :) Sep 15 09:53:30 hi :) can I update image without the hdimage and the pivot root image? Sep 15 09:53:40 anyone :) Sep 15 09:56:46 flash with only image on card Sep 15 09:58:17 hey Sep 15 09:58:25 I'm soo tired, cya tomorrow Sep 15 10:02:27 cu zecke Sep 15 10:03:32 hehe Sep 15 10:04:23 ~hail zecke Sep 15 10:04:25 * ibot bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Sep 15 10:04:38 still no word from CELF.... Sep 15 10:05:21 hrw thanks Sep 15 10:07:15 koen: on what? Sep 15 10:09:15 heh.. qte 2.3.10 from OE does not build for x86 Sep 15 10:09:26 ie machine=native Sep 15 10:09:58 mithro: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/33/3366.html Sep 15 10:11:05 ahh CELF is a slow moving buerocratic organisation Sep 15 10:11:15 don't expect any response quickly :P Sep 15 10:16:02 Is there a channel for the dev of the kernel for 2.6/openzaurus/poodle ? Sep 15 10:16:38 Or do I ask my questions here? Sep 15 10:17:19 nic: if RP is alive... Sep 15 10:23:19 I tried the new kernel (linux-openzaurus-2.6.13-mm3) and it doesn't read / like my nand Sep 15 10:23:39 nic: on poodle? Sep 15 10:23:48 yes Sep 15 10:24:05 is there a "working" 2.6 for poodle? Sep 15 10:24:08 nic: currently collie and poodle are not supported in 2.6 - noone upgraded it Sep 15 10:24:20 no Sep 15 10:24:36 hi all Sep 15 10:26:09 I don't need a full feature user friendly with all possible modules kernel, just one who can read the nand, boot linux and have a usable serial port Sep 15 10:26:20 Is that possible? Sep 15 10:27:21 just for the fun, one more question : is there a place to find work in progress/todo to port the 2.6 kernel to poodle? Sep 15 10:28:34 nic: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~lenz/zaurus/ Sep 15 10:28:51 I am trying to build oz, so I did bitbake task-bootstrap, bitbake bootstrap-image and bitbake opie-image, then I have the bootstrap-image-xx-rootfs.img and the zImage-xx.bin and the updater.sh, I use these three file and flushed my zaurus, it can bootup fine, but it won't go into opie, it just give me a console. anything I have missed? Sep 15 10:29:35 bootstrap is no gui - pure console Sep 15 10:30:02 how to get booting to opie as well? Sep 15 10:30:12 abm_y4k: flash opie-image? Sep 15 10:31:03 I made a bitbake opie-image but I got no .bin or .img file is this normal? Sep 15 10:31:31 abm_y4k: really? it should be in tmp/deploy/images/ Sep 15 10:33:57 bootstrap-image-borzoi-20050914182344.rootfs.img, updater.sh.borzoi, zImage-borzoi-20050914182344.bin and bootstrap-image-borzoi-20050914182344.rootfs.tar.gz in that folder only Sep 15 10:34:24 there should be a opie*.[img|bin] file there? Sep 15 10:35:12 should be Sep 15 10:37:39 only if you did a _successfull_ bitbake opie-image Sep 15 10:38:41 alrite, let me re-bitbake opie-kdepim-image again Sep 15 10:39:21 opie-kdepim-image? heh.. I should kill it Sep 15 10:39:45 kill it? Sep 15 10:39:48 why? Sep 15 10:40:30 or update to be current Sep 15 10:41:56 oh, I think I got a error on building opie :( Sep 15 10:45:10 ok. I updated opie-kdepim-image Sep 15 10:47:11 anyone tested the C3000 usbhost? Sep 15 10:50:22 AvengerMoJo: under 2.4 or 2.6? Sep 15 10:50:32 2.4 or 2.6 Sep 15 10:50:38 :) Sep 15 10:50:46 I just wonder which one may work Sep 15 10:50:47 :) Sep 15 10:51:16 I don't see the 2.6 get usbdevfs build in kernel :( Sep 15 10:51:21 at least my is not Sep 15 10:51:22 :( Sep 15 10:51:35 RP does not build usbhost support as it is not yet ported iirc Sep 15 10:51:58 I see Sep 15 10:52:19 what about 2.4? will the 2.4 image get that build? Sep 15 10:52:37 dont know - no spitz/borzoi here Sep 15 10:52:45 hrw thanks :) anyway Sep 15 10:54:48 np Sep 15 10:57:28 k3b is funny.. 'Starting SAO writing at 14112 speed' Sep 15 10:58:12 eh? Sep 15 10:58:14 spitz? Sep 15 10:58:37 AvengerMoJo: 2.4 kernel "works" yes Sep 15 10:59:21 AvengerMoJo: I've been using 2.4 all this time Sep 15 11:00:29 JustinP: :( Sep 15 11:00:29 need to make a support/build chart with kernels vs devices adn things taht work/missing Sep 15 11:00:38 JustinP: then my cable is not working ... :( Sep 15 11:00:47 I try to connect to a device Sep 15 11:00:53 using a new usb cable I get Sep 15 11:01:02 JustinP: what kind of driver for the usb host you need Sep 15 11:01:28 JustinP: I just want to make sure it is not my kernel driver problem Sep 15 11:01:29 AvengerMoJo: ummm...the host module Sep 15 11:01:46 AvengerMoJo: rmmod pxa27x_bi (I think) Sep 15 11:01:56 usbhost? ... uhci_hcd? Sep 15 11:01:57 oh Sep 15 11:01:58 AvengerMoJo: modprobe ohci...something or other...pca Sep 15 11:02:07 pxa Sep 15 11:02:20 so the pxa27x_bi didn't work? Sep 15 11:02:23 I haven't used my host in a while Sep 15 11:02:31 ummmmm..... Sep 15 11:02:31 w Sep 15 11:02:34 JustinP: thanks a lot Sep 15 11:02:39 I will try that Sep 15 11:02:40 I thought that module was for client only Sep 15 11:02:47 as I said I'm not sure Sep 15 11:02:50 Good evening. Sep 15 11:02:50 JustinP: that is what i don't really sure Sep 15 11:02:51 hehe :) Sep 15 11:02:57 I will try that Sep 15 11:05:07 hey sirfred Sep 15 11:05:29 Hi, koen Sep 15 11:10:33 JustinP: thanks :) Sep 15 11:10:38 my cable seem to work!!! Sep 15 11:10:51 but my hotplugs doesn't Sep 15 11:14:45 :-) Sep 15 11:15:09 ~lart Opie for having broken patches in OE Sep 15 11:15:10 * ibot puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at Opie for having broken patches in OE Sep 15 11:15:24 ~lart E for not working when I finally switch my main image to it Sep 15 11:15:24 * ibot whacks E with the cluebat for not working when I finally switch my main image to it Sep 15 11:15:45 lol Sep 15 11:16:30 my Z has been broken for a while now becaus ei haven't had time to fix it Sep 15 11:16:31 argh Sep 15 11:16:52 perhaps it's the *non*-CSL compiler... Sep 15 11:16:53 yeah ... Sep 15 11:16:53 ::sigh:: Sep 15 11:17:03 hmm Sep 15 11:17:05 i wonder Sep 15 11:17:24 does the intel compiler support the sa and pxa chips? Sep 15 11:17:27 entrance fails to load its theme Sep 15 11:17:36 not supprising Sep 15 11:17:44 edje error is "corrupt file" Sep 15 11:17:48 why is that not surprising? Sep 15 11:18:04 unless you worked the majic to fix e's path inheritence Sep 15 11:18:06 JustinP: I can see the device cat /proc/bus/usb/devices Sep 15 11:18:19 emte: path ingeritance? eh? Sep 15 11:18:32 JustinP: but my application still couldn't connection to it ...using libusb .. any idea? Sep 15 11:18:32 i am trying to override the defaults in my own Sep 15 11:18:35 emte: e has been working all this time and is *just* decided to break Sep 15 11:18:44 ah nm me then Sep 15 11:18:51 emte: e17 has been in OE and working just fine for a while Sep 15 11:19:03 AvengerMoJo: nope. I'm not a USB guru. Sep 15 11:19:12 JustinP: thanks :) Sep 15 11:19:23 i tried to compile it to see how far it would get about 3 days ago and it didnt work ... Sep 15 11:19:37 emte: from OE? Sep 15 11:19:42 emte: it works just fine. Sep 15 11:19:45 yeah, i need the libraries Sep 15 11:19:55 emte: the libs all build from OE Sep 15 11:20:40 they failed when i did it Sep 15 11:20:45 on ecore i think Sep 15 11:21:05 i try it again for kicks Sep 15 11:21:24 ~spell synchronizes Sep 15 11:21:25 ~spell synchronized Sep 15 11:21:26 'synchronizes' may be spelled correctly Sep 15 11:21:48 hrw, spelling canadian? Sep 15 11:22:10 emte: spelling Polish Sep 15 11:22:19 poland uses the z as well? Sep 15 11:22:43 zsynchronizowany Sep 15 11:22:46 lol Sep 15 11:23:34 ;) Sep 15 11:24:12 uf.. second blank cd is good.. Sep 15 11:24:24 first will goto trash: Sep 15 11:24:58 emte: argh Sep 15 11:25:26 JustinP, i wouldnt worry about it too much Sep 15 11:25:27 emte: if you have problems compiling submit a bug report. As I have said many times in the past, e is assumed to work. Sep 15 11:25:46 although *runtime* entrance is failing on me now...for unknown reasons Sep 15 11:25:51 whois papercrane@? Sep 15 11:26:18 i share raster's opinion re enterance and logging in Sep 15 11:26:43 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r33052d84... 10/packages/meta/ (opie-image.bb opie-kdepim-image.bb): synchronized opie-kdepim-image with last changes to opie-image Sep 15 11:26:46 JustinP: it's you? Sep 15 11:26:50 hrw: that's me Sep 15 11:26:57 emte: which is? Sep 15 11:27:28 its pointless for the most part Sep 15 11:27:42 hrw: were these fixed within the past couple of days? I haven't updated my checkout for a little bit....I didn't remember these being fixed, though... Sep 15 11:27:45 JustinP: do monotone pull/merge/update, clean cache and rebuild opie-image. bugs 327,328,329 was fixed Sep 15 11:28:00 ok Sep 15 11:28:02 sorry about that Sep 15 11:28:21 * koen has fun with bugzilla Sep 15 11:28:24 JustinP: will you close that bugs? Sep 15 11:28:26 comon monotone ... parse parse Sep 15 11:28:53 koen: 'how to make bugzilla do sth1'? Sep 15 11:28:54 ~whaleslap justinp Sep 15 11:28:57 * ibot slaps justinp upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh Sep 15 11:32:33 hrw: it looked like they were... Sep 15 11:33:28 fixed? Sep 15 11:33:43 Packaged contents of bluez-libs into /home/hrw/devel/build/native/tmp/deploy/ipk/libbluetooth1_2.20-r0_i686.ipk Sep 15 11:33:50 go bitbake go! Sep 15 11:34:21 D'oh Sep 15 11:34:33 * koen needs to change MSP-opie-image Sep 15 11:34:48 msp? Sep 15 11:35:16 the distro my uni uses on their ipaqs Sep 15 11:36:20 ah Sep 15 11:36:31 many changes? Sep 15 11:37:22 not much Sep 15 11:37:30 some softfloat and java stuff Sep 15 11:37:57 the opie image lacks pim, games and other stuff, but has more drivers Sep 15 11:38:14 nice Sep 15 11:41:34 koen, whats in it? and what do tehy use it for? Sep 15 11:43:13 koen: basically all you need is copy of opie-kdepim-image.bb with changes Sep 15 11:44:25 or use my delete key in opie-image a lot :) Sep 15 11:44:30 I'll look at the kde-pim one Sep 15 11:44:40 I found out that buiding opie-image failed due to cannot fetch gnutls package Sep 15 11:44:54 abm_y4k: worked for me Sep 15 11:44:54 it seems that their ftp and mirror is down Sep 15 11:45:09 what is the URL_src? Sep 15 11:45:16 koen: opie-image is now composed from tasks Sep 15 11:45:31 abm_y4k: peek gnutls SRC_URI Sep 15 11:45:52 whats that mean? Sep 15 11:46:06 this ftp.gnutls.org/pub/gnutls/gnutls-1.0.25.tar.gz doesn't work Sep 15 11:46:50 thats not out fault that they have problem Sep 15 11:48:17 I am googling to find a mirror for it Sep 15 11:48:29 oh found one, http://mirrors.rootmode.com/ftp.gnupg.org/gnutls/ Sep 15 12:30:58 ....anyone get a hotplug ipkg anyway ? Sep 15 12:32:03 install linux-hotplug Sep 15 12:50:23 .... not seem to work .. it should in the status but I can't use it Sep 15 12:50:43 the usb device show in the proc Sep 15 12:50:49 but hotplug didn't claim it Sep 15 13:01:24 bah glibc takes longer to package than it does to compile Sep 15 13:04:23 <_alwin_> hi Sep 15 13:07:49 ...... anyone know hotplug enought to give me a hand Sep 15 13:13:09 does sysfs being support? Sep 15 13:21:00 AvengerMoJo: under 2.6 sysfs exist and there is udev which will do most of work Sep 15 13:21:03 cu Sep 15 13:21:10 ops :) Sep 15 13:21:14 what about 2.4? Sep 15 13:21:34 no sysfs for 2.4 Sep 15 13:22:58 :( Sep 15 13:23:05 but the hotplug script base on that Sep 15 13:24:38 also .... I can't find the usbutils anyway Sep 15 13:28:17 AvengerMoJo: hotplug should work on 2.4.... Sep 15 13:28:39 at least, I know I've seen some version of hotplug working on 2.4 Sep 15 13:28:51 damn it! I can't get the compiler back to CSL now! Sep 15 13:32:20 .... Sep 15 13:32:27 which version of hotplug you are using? Sep 15 13:32:48 my Z is down ATM... Sep 15 13:33:29 oh Sep 15 13:34:21 one minute while it boots Sep 15 13:34:43 2.4 has issues....it loses track of the microdrive sometimes... Sep 15 13:35:18 ok :) Sep 15 13:35:19 I am not absolutely sure that hotplug is working in OZ, I haven't used the host lately Sep 15 13:35:28 but something like it was working on the Sharp ROM Sep 15 13:35:30 * JustinP hides Sep 15 13:37:21 AvengerMoJo: well, linux-hotplug-20040920 is the version installed in an image I built today Sep 15 13:38:17 ..... 2.4 work on that Sep 15 13:38:31 ? Sep 15 13:38:32 :( Sep 15 13:38:38 ... going to cry again Sep 15 13:38:44 I can see the device ... now Sep 15 13:38:48 but hotplug ... :( Sep 15 13:39:15 why do you need hotplug? Sep 15 13:39:22 just run a script to bring it up Sep 15 13:39:28 that's all hotplug is anyway.... Sep 15 13:40:24 which script? Sep 15 13:40:29 the hotplug script? Sep 15 13:40:55 no Sep 15 13:41:01 all hotplug does is run commands Sep 15 13:41:02 .... Sep 15 13:41:11 it's a magic shell script....but it's not magic ;-) Sep 15 13:41:17 what do you need to happen? Sep 15 13:41:44 load_drivers usb $MAP_CURRENT "$LABEL"<--? Sep 15 13:41:50 gphoto Sep 15 13:42:03 where is the load_drivers Sep 15 13:42:07 welll...load the kernel modules then.... Sep 15 13:42:08 I can't seem to find it Sep 15 13:42:16 try modprobe Sep 15 13:42:16 JustinP: whichone? Sep 15 13:42:25 AvengerMoJo: look it up Sep 15 13:42:34 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b0/0x406) is not claimed by any active driver. Sep 15 13:42:42 see ... it not claimed ... :( Sep 15 13:42:51 did you google? Sep 15 13:43:05 dont' know what to google about now Sep 15 13:43:17 out of idea Sep 15 13:43:25 what's the device called? Sep 15 13:44:42 a camera Sep 15 13:44:48 well.... Sep 15 13:44:51 * JustinP finds http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11323128 Sep 15 13:45:31 ok Sep 15 13:45:36 so your'e using a *camera* Sep 15 13:45:43 that would probably make it mass-storage Sep 15 13:45:49 try the usb storage driver Sep 15 13:47:02 if that doesn't work try gphoto2 for ptp cameras Sep 15 13:47:19 koen I'm using ptp Sep 15 13:47:31 hum .. :( Sep 15 13:48:22 AvengerMoJo: well according to that thread (which has that vendor / product combo) that camera should work with mass-storage.... Sep 15 13:48:56 ptp stuff doesn't get claimed by the kernel Sep 15 13:49:05 since only userspace drivers exists Sep 15 13:49:32 koen right Sep 15 13:49:54 koen but my driver could get it with libusb either ... Sep 15 13:50:12 hum ... let me look into that Sep 15 14:02:56 mickey|bbl: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2005-09/msg00211.html Sep 15 14:05:13 emte: you were compiling glibc a few minutes ago. Did you see these error messages before: undefined reference to `_errno'... Also see http://pastebin.ca/23024? Thanks! Sep 15 14:05:30 nope Sep 15 14:06:17 * JustinP starts another build with the csl compiler....::sigh::....I just want my damn Zaurus back! Sep 15 14:06:26 emte: ok, strange, I am compiling for i386 and glibc with cvs20050627 keeps failing... Sep 15 14:06:48 chris144: compiling fine for me. But I'm compiling for arm. Sep 15 14:06:50 wait Sep 15 14:06:56 chris144: AFAIK i386 isn't much tested Sep 15 14:06:59 your compiling for x86 Sep 15 14:07:10 did you reverse/block all the patches? Sep 15 14:07:17 JustinP: I'd be surprised if csl would make that edje error go away Sep 15 14:07:44 emte: what do you mean with reverse/block. Shoudnt this be done thorugh the ARCH stuff? Sep 15 14:08:03 patches are usually IN the bb fale called Sep 15 14:08:04 .... can't build in my z either Sep 15 14:08:05 :( Sep 15 14:08:12 file* Sep 15 14:08:16 the gcc is not working work in the Z Sep 15 14:08:55 TARGET_ARCH = "i386" should prevent ARM patches from being appield, shouldn't it? Sep 15 14:09:06 doubtful Sep 15 14:09:26 koen: well I have nothing else to try..... Sep 15 14:09:30 i dont think bitbake is that smart yet Sep 15 14:09:52 koen: I just want to rule it out Sep 15 14:09:53 chris144: not necessarely Sep 15 14:09:57 emte: ok, oh wow, then I possibly need to make sure that arm pacthes are not applied for any packages that I am using..ops Sep 15 14:10:05 yup Sep 15 14:10:26 emte: I didnt know that, I will try it...thanks! Sep 15 14:10:44 ... /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.3/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory Sep 15 14:10:56 chris144: if a patch gets applied if you machine is not arm, it is harmless for other archs Sep 15 14:11:12 BTW: koen: how are you, long tome no speak. Sep 15 14:11:16 time Sep 15 14:11:26 brb Sep 15 14:11:58 chris144: good, and how are you? Sep 15 14:12:29 not bad, still working on hardware stuff, I hope to be back on oe in a few months... :-) Sep 15 14:28:18 oh yeah.....not only is entrance failing, e is gefaulting Sep 15 14:28:27 segfaulting Sep 15 14:28:28 ::sigh:: Sep 15 14:35:26 binutils is not working :( Sep 15 15:06:13 what is this anyone usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug remove 1 Sep 15 16:07:23 * raduga has been asking silly OE questions, and posting silly OE grumbles in #openzaurus Sep 15 16:07:29 probably not a very good tactic Sep 15 16:07:55 hi OE people. Sep 15 16:13:16 you musta been really bad if noone answered :P Sep 15 16:13:40 i was asking with regards to gcc 2.95 :( Sep 15 16:14:02 given the opinion people have of linux v2.4 that may have been something very bad to speak of Sep 15 16:14:47 emte: I am trying to wrap my brain around OE, finally Sep 15 16:14:59 emte: after a long while of running and hiding from it Sep 15 16:15:39 well gcc 2.95 is required for some of the zaurus stuff Sep 15 16:15:54 for building old kernels, yes. Sep 15 16:16:11 depends what you call an old kernel Sep 15 16:16:22 indeed it does. Sep 15 16:18:09 emte: thank you for reminding me of the relativity of 'old' :) Sep 15 16:19:21 raduga: yes, you have to install that toolchain outside of OE Sep 15 16:19:23 * raduga has a 1.0.54 kernel based machine that I should really power up, to see if it still functions Sep 15 16:19:31 old is pretty much anything pre 2.2 Sep 15 16:20:04 2.4, 2.5, and 2.6 are pretty new Sep 15 16:20:08 emte: old in the context I was referring to was pre 2.5 Sep 15 16:20:10 raduga: anyone can alter the wiki, feel free to do so, just please don't *change* something unless you are absolutely sure the change is correct. An e-mail to oe@hh.org with your changes would be appreciated. Sep 15 16:20:23 but yes, 2.4 is still quite useable. Sep 15 16:20:39 raduga: the embedded 2.4 kernels aren't old as much as that they are horribly written Sep 15 16:20:45 2.4 isnt exactly old ... Sep 15 16:21:04 no, it's not old Sep 15 16:21:15 has a completly different memory handling structure and networking subsystem from 2.6 Sep 15 16:21:21 JustinP: I wanted to add a reference on: Sep 15 16:21:23 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted Sep 15 16:21:51 that suggested the user get the 2.95 toolchain, if they wanted to build for a 2.4 era kernel. Sep 15 16:22:13 I'll email oe@hh.org :) Sep 15 16:22:14 raduga: I would suggest a short message regarding 2.4 Zaurus kernels and pointing people to the ZaurusKernels page Sep 15 16:22:27 JustinP: okay. Thanks. Sep 15 16:22:38 raduga: in fact, there is already a note on there Sep 15 16:22:42 you mean like the OpenZaurusInattl page here? Sep 15 16:22:46 install* Sep 15 16:23:01 raduga: ALSO NOTE: If you want to build for a standard Sharp Zaurus then you must read about ZaurusKernels (they use a different toolchain). Sep 15 16:23:10 or soemthing like that Sep 15 16:23:12 raduga: a clarification about 2.4 kernels would be ok there Sep 15 16:23:22 emte: that's already on the page Sep 15 16:23:42 yeah thats what i am blunderinly trying to type :) Sep 15 16:24:17 its this PHP its rotting my brain Sep 15 16:24:17 JustinP: thank you. Sep 15 16:24:23 raduga: np Sep 15 16:24:30 i want to kill the guy who wrote this Sep 15 16:24:33 probably no edits are needed. Sep 15 16:24:36 and then kill him again Sep 15 16:24:41 (that's why its good to ask first :) Sep 15 16:25:11 raduga: the docs on the wiki are hard to get useful info from.... Sep 15 16:32:58 JustinP: at least there are docs on the wiki Sep 15 16:33:14 JustinP: and most of, if not all the relevant needed information is in there.. somewhere. Sep 15 16:39:22 hehe Sep 15 16:39:30 and you have to come here to ask where to find it ;-) Sep 15 16:47:10 AvengerMoJo: USB host works on 2.6 C3000 Sep 15 16:53:23 feh. some version problems remain. now complaining "| *** Please upgrade your binutils to 2.9.5. Sep 15 16:53:35 let me see where. Sep 15 16:54:42 raduga: did you install the 2.95 toolchain in the right place? Sep 15 16:55:07 the place specified in the ZaurusKernels page. Sep 15 16:55:13 /usr/local/arm/ Sep 15 16:55:47 and I've renamed arm-linux-gcc to arm-linux-gcc-2.95 Sep 15 16:55:52 but not any of the other tools Sep 15 16:57:56 the page also says to rename ld Sep 15 16:58:00 did you do that? Sep 15 16:58:18 did you alter your PATH when building? Sep 15 16:59:37 Yes, I've renamed ld. Sep 15 16:59:59 PATH changed during the bitbake, but before the actual kernel build. Sep 15 17:00:50 raduga: don't know what to tell you.....you could try starting over....:-| Sep 15 17:10:09 hmm Sep 15 17:21:25 ba Sep 15 17:21:27 gh Sep 15 17:27:40 hmm Sep 15 17:27:51 where did my usb drive go ... Sep 15 17:28:54 maybe this new board is underpowered ... Sep 15 17:31:52 anyone know if udev has changed the way mass storage is named lately? Sep 15 17:40:32 udev howto mount usb Sep 15 17:40:40 bah wrong spot Sep 15 17:47:32 hey raster Sep 15 17:48:05 hi... Sep 15 17:48:07 hey emm! Sep 15 17:49:57 AHA! Sep 15 17:50:01 was missing sd_mod Sep 15 17:53:21 Peper Steak, Lasanguga, Honey Chicken, Tomato Pasta or Beef Stew? Sep 15 17:53:29 what should i eat for dinner? Sep 15 17:56:51 i'm still having freetype-native compilation problem Sep 15 18:01:06 pepper steak and beer Sep 15 18:09:37 grrr.... Sep 15 18:09:51 is there a way from the bitbake interactive shell to force the redownload of a source? Sep 15 18:11:09 try remove the source file Sep 15 18:12:50 hmm..ok Sep 15 18:12:52 thanks Sep 15 18:17:29 I see ftp.gnutls.org is down, this software (gnutls) seems to be necesary for building opie-image target in openembedded, somebody know how to make a bug report in situations like this ? Sep 15 18:29:44 how is that a bug? Sep 15 18:37:44 just download from some other place... google it Sep 15 18:38:55 emte: i got this error... while compiling freetype-native... ...freetype-2.1.10/Makefile: Too many open files Sep 15 18:39:25 i've set ulimit -n 16000 Sep 15 18:39:40 it give me segmentation fault.. Sep 15 18:40:06 that sounds like a host issue ... Sep 15 18:40:39 i cant say i've ever gotten that specific error myself Sep 15 18:40:47 emte: hmm, you are right, this is not a bug, but how to deal with this problems? what someone like me can help with this? I just change the .bb file to point to a mirror of gnutls, that solved this problem for me. Sep 15 18:41:32 memeruiz, that is a correct temporary fix, longrun ... Sep 15 18:41:53 you could send an note about it to the mailing list Sep 15 18:42:08 find a good mirror... Sep 15 18:42:18 maybe someone else would appreciate knowing where to find it until gnutls comes back up Sep 15 18:42:45 you can put packages dld overrides in your local.conf Sep 15 18:44:02 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/UsingMirrors Sep 15 18:44:36 providing where you found it is known Sep 15 18:46:35 is pxa or sa the pre-emptive kernels? Sep 15 18:46:52 http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gcrypt/gnutls/ Sep 15 18:47:37 pxa and sa stand for thier arch Sep 15 18:47:38 lodown: 2.6 is pre-emptive... 2.4 is not.. Sep 15 18:47:48 sa= StrongArm etc Sep 15 18:48:00 emte: thanks a lot, that works for me. That is a better way to deal with this. Also I will subscribe to the mailing list and try to inform whatever I can. Sep 15 18:48:02 freetype 2.1.10 have a bug... Sep 15 18:48:15 z-akita, no Sep 15 18:48:23 like i said i belive that is your host Sep 15 18:48:27 not freetype Sep 15 19:24:02 hey, do we have a SVG of the OE logo? Sep 15 19:24:16 yes Sep 15 19:24:52 there is even a link on the oe site i belive Sep 15 19:27:16 anyone think they could do a logo for the miniconf? Sep 15 19:27:54 you already have one no? Sep 15 19:28:09 the funny penguin thing Sep 15 19:28:20 thats the linux.conf.au Logo Sep 15 19:28:25 ah Sep 15 20:07:46 how do i bitbake opie.. without the games.. and applications.. Sep 15 20:34:57 z-akita: youll have to edit the defconfig file for opie, I believe Sep 15 20:36:46 how compatible is hentges script with latest cvs bitbake? Sep 15 20:44:42 :) Sep 15 20:45:16 for usb host ... do I need anything beside usb_ohci_pxa27x Sep 15 20:45:56 i think thats it.. Sep 15 20:46:04 usbcore Sep 15 20:50:02 z-akita: thanks Sep 15 20:51:34 AvengerMojo: u using gpe or opie? Sep 15 20:54:12 open("/proc/bus/usb/001/005", O_RDWR) = 3 Sep 15 20:54:12 ioctl(3, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0xbffff788) = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented) Sep 15 20:54:12 close(3) Sep 15 20:54:15 in my strace :( Sep 15 20:54:33 so that is kernel driver problem? Sep 15 20:56:11 hi all Sep 15 20:57:13 how can I fix this error "ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-opie-extra-apps: opie-mediaplayer2-skin" during the bitbake opie-image Sep 15 20:58:07 I have bitbake all the bb skin files for mediaplayer2 but doesn't help Sep 15 21:04:52 anyone? Sep 15 21:07:07 try check the logs Sep 15 21:08:41 whats what the log said :( Sep 15 21:11:51 abm_y4k: have u tried bitbake gpe image? Sep 15 21:12:00 nope Sep 15 21:12:22 can't even get opie image working :( Sep 15 21:12:39 i seem to have problem with freetype-native.. Sep 15 21:12:55 i haven't finish compiling opie image yet Sep 15 21:13:04 yea, it take long time :( Sep 15 21:13:30 yeh... so long... Sep 15 21:44:31 anyone can help me out? Sep 15 22:16:13 hmm Sep 15 22:16:30 my ipaq is getting a bit erratic ... Sep 15 22:21:27 mybe i'll reflas 8.2 Sep 15 22:22:39 need to install minicom first Sep 15 22:34:24 hmm Sep 15 22:36:54 hmm Sep 15 23:14:26 morning all Sep 15 23:51:03 my ipaq keeps locking up Sep 15 23:53:15 usb cradle is doing it :( Sep 15 23:55:59 time to look at the familair buglist i guess Sep 16 00:00:41 if i know what to put it under ... Sep 16 00:00:57 hmm Sep 16 00:01:08 maybe i'll wait for tomorrow Sep 16 00:14:25 morning Sep 16 00:19:53 hmm its decided it doesnt want to go both ways ... Sep 16 00:20:07 i have a hetro-networked ipaq .. Sep 16 00:21:08 i'll yell at it in the morn Sep 16 00:39:02 sigh - another day, another list to join Sep 16 00:46:36 udev 070 released Sep 16 00:48:03 hi XorA Sep 16 00:48:49 morning, hi hrw|work Sep 16 00:49:43 XorA: did you saw cpufreq results from husky? Sep 16 00:49:50 heh - udev has a new maintainer too Sep 16 00:50:33 and still no changelog on 'website' Sep 16 00:51:39 heh - the lkml message has a small changelog in it Sep 16 00:51:57 maybe - but I dont read lkml - too much for me Sep 16 00:52:24 hrw|work: I did yes, hope you get that patch in OE soon Sep 16 00:52:38 http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel is your friend Sep 16 00:52:45 XorA: thats RP thing not mine Sep 16 00:52:53 hrw|work: would be nice to run me macine on demand Sep 16 00:52:56 CP|Laptop: I watch linux.kernel via google groups Sep 16 00:53:39 XorA: I configured in that way - works ok. but on 100MHz is so sluggish. Sep 16 00:53:57 hrw|work: should it now upfreq though? Sep 16 00:54:12 hrw|work: I am having trouble typing :-( Sep 16 00:54:29 hrw|work: I mean when sluggish should it not up the frequency when you start using the machine Sep 16 00:55:01 hrw|work: also on Sharp kernel I found touchscreen calib depended on the cpu frequency, how are you finding it? Sep 16 00:55:58 XorA: sometimes ts does not respond at all after resume when using ondemand - but when set one frequency it works ok with 100,200,300,400MHz with one calibration data Sep 16 01:01:31 hrw|work: thats improved then, I assume eventually someone will find the resume bug Sep 16 01:03:24 XorA: btw getting it in OE - I think that it will be possible after 3.5.4 release Sep 16 01:07:34 hrw|work: this weekend then :-) Sep 16 01:07:43 morning all Sep 16 01:08:21 hi RP Sep 16 01:08:55 good morning all Sep 16 01:08:59 hi koen Sep 16 01:11:14 it would be good to get udev 070 working then Sep 16 01:11:30 but that will probably be after release Sep 16 01:18:20 has anyone tried to get pcmcia-hotplug working yet? Sep 16 01:20:12 I use pcmciautils 008 Sep 16 01:20:47 how is it? Sep 16 01:20:53 far better then cardmgr? :) Sep 16 01:21:30 with correctly working udev and modprobe from module-init-tools it works ok Sep 16 01:22:12 does it works better... hm. with cardmgr I had automount of memory card partitions - now I didnt write script for it yet Sep 16 01:22:46 Well, I know it can't be worse Sep 16 01:25:03 I thought we were on bitbake version 1.3.X? Sep 16 01:25:24 1.3.2.1? Sep 16 01:25:36 BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.2.1, bitbake version 1.3.2 Sep 16 01:25:38 hrw|work: Ive just pulled subversion and its only got 1.1 :-( Sep 16 01:26:09 hmm. strange Sep 16 01:26:42 revision 313. Sep 16 01:27:33 hmm, trunk gives me 1.3.2 Sep 16 01:27:49 * XorA is confused or miusing subversion someway Sep 16 01:31:32 :) Sep 16 01:39:46 hi :) Sep 16 01:40:00 I having problem with the usb :) Sep 16 01:40:10 when I strace my application ... I see this Sep 16 01:40:27 open("proc/bus/usb/xxx/xxx) Sep 16 01:40:58 ioctl( XX, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, XXXXX ) ENOSYS Function not implemented Sep 16 01:41:11 this will be the problem of my usbdevfs or ? Sep 16 01:41:16 libusb? Sep 16 01:41:43 AvengerMoJo: mount none /proc/bus/usb -t usbdevfs Sep 16 01:47:13 hrw|work: is it already there :( Sep 16 01:47:59 2.4-sharpcrap kernel? Sep 16 01:48:09 2.4 from OE Sep 16 01:48:37 spitz Sep 16 01:48:45 I'm not sure what's sharpcrap Sep 16 01:48:47 :) Sep 16 01:49:03 any 2.4 kernel for zaurus is 2.4-sharpcrap Sep 16 01:49:36 hehe Sep 16 01:49:40 then yes Sep 16 01:50:15 I'm wondering why is there a USBDEVFS_IOCTL function not implemented Sep 16 01:54:44 hi zecke Sep 16 01:56:43 hail zecke Sep 16 02:00:29 hey Sep 16 02:00:39 12 hours of sleep and I feel great... Sep 16 02:00:46 this was my longest rest since weeks... Sep 16 02:02:44 I have second day iin a row with waking up at 6:( Sep 16 02:03:28 :) Sep 16 02:05:33 anyone can give me some suggestion... with the usbdevfs in the kernel being the problem? or the libusb? Sep 16 02:06:32 geezz. doesnt feel like I have slept a total of 12 hours in the last 3 weeks Sep 16 02:07:14 ljp: hehe, Lucky you I'm not in the mood of bitching at Qtopia.. ;) Sep 16 02:07:31 ljp: but please make a Qt and Qtopia release... Sep 16 02:08:42 ljp: and please improve your platform Sep 16 02:09:17 ljp: I'm tempted to implement Phone Stuff at maemo :} Sep 16 02:09:49 koen: ah discount codes will come soon :) Sep 16 02:11:02 zecke: so they say Sep 16 02:11:30 AvengerMoJo: 2.6 does support USB Host Sep 16 02:11:41 (in answer to your question yesterday) Sep 16 02:12:04 koen: and OE on the roadmap Sep 16 02:12:38 RP: oh Sep 16 02:13:08 RP: I get the USBDEVFS_IOCTL function not implemented Sep 16 02:13:14 when I try to use the libgphoto Sep 16 02:14:10 * ljp whips up a release just for zecke Sep 16 02:14:42 TP1 of Qtopia 10 (TP for ToiletPaper) Sep 16 02:15:45 zecke: afaik OE is already on the roadmap Sep 16 02:16:03 its written on the back in crayon, but its there... :) Sep 16 02:16:13 CP|Laptop: http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html Sep 16 02:16:19 mornin' Sep 16 02:16:21 5th item Sep 16 02:16:22 AvengerMoJo: Perhaps it isn't compiled into the kernel by default or perhaps you need to modprobe the module? Sep 16 02:16:26 hey Twiun Sep 16 02:16:26 koen: yeah I've I would not have skipped the verb I would have used 'is' ;) Sep 16 02:17:16 RP: I did the driver Sep 16 02:17:17 AvengerMoJo: what does 'lsusb' say? Sep 16 02:17:30 hrw|work: the device is there Sep 16 02:17:41 hrw|work: however when I try to use it Sep 16 02:18:06 hrw|work: it shows in my strace that ioctl ( USBDEVFS_IOCTL ) Function not implemented Sep 16 02:19:11 I saw that Sep 16 02:19:17 you probably didn't have usbdevfs loaded Sep 16 02:19:27 will my cable .... cause that problem? Sep 16 02:19:37 RP: I do ... or else I won't see the device at all Sep 16 02:19:48 RP: also if I switch the cam to storage Sep 16 02:19:58 RP: I can read the file using usbstorage Sep 16 02:20:43 so .. I think it is down to why libgphoto / or I should say libusb couldn't seem to perform the ioctl on the usbdevfs Sep 16 02:21:09 and I'm thinking it is either the libusb have problem or the kernel usbdevfs does Sep 16 02:21:21 but I don't know the OE kernel enought to be sure Sep 16 02:21:40 just won't anyone have play with the usbdevfs Sep 16 02:21:49 AvengerMoJo: usbdevfs is a separate module to the rest of the usb system. I'd guess it isn't loaded Sep 16 02:22:24 It is most certainly not a problem with the OE kernel. The only issue might be that it doesn't get compiled Sep 16 02:22:27 zecke: you spend too much energy criticizing, and you end up just pissing people off Sep 16 02:22:44 ljp: hehe, M$ is not pissed off yet ;) Sep 16 02:23:19 RP: if the usbdevfs didn't get loaded ... I won't able to see /proc/bus/usb ... will I? Sep 16 02:23:23 I'm creating a new term for BoFH for QA engineers Sep 16 02:23:58 AvengerMoJo: mount will probably show you if its mounted Sep 16 02:24:00 RP: also for info ... USBDEVFS_CONNECTINFO on the same device is working ... read has been done on it Sep 16 02:24:28 ljp: and I'm sorry for that, but the percentage Qtopia/TT is doing 'right' is sooo low and I see no improvement Sep 16 02:25:03 ljp: so most of my criticizing comes from frustration, that something that could have been a great platform gets constantly bad and worse Sep 16 02:25:04 AvengerMoJo: check does that ioctl is available at all in 2.4.20 Sep 16 02:26:27 hrw|work: ok Sep 16 02:26:52 AvengerMoJo: Are you using 2.4? Sep 16 02:26:53 ljp: people == you, the only TT employee I have in direct reach Sep 16 02:27:11 RP: yes Sep 16 02:27:29 qtopia 2 was meant to be bc, there is a lot of crap code due to Sharp Sep 16 02:27:30 ljp: Anyway concentrate on your paternity (does what I just said, make any way sense) Sep 16 02:27:53 yes Sep 16 02:27:56 AvengerMoJo: I'm talking about the 2.6 kernel - you implied this was something you were seeing under 2.6 earlier... Sep 16 02:28:02 ljp: yeah but Qtopia2 is not backward compatible, there are at least two classes that are not Sep 16 02:28:37 ljp: and then 'we' have a communication problem, it is sad that we do not get informed when a patch is included in Qtopia Sep 16 02:28:47 RP: ok Sep 16 02:29:20 ljp: hehe, I guess I will piss of more people when I start my Qtopia blog Sep 16 02:30:18 perhaps Sep 16 02:31:52 zecke: 'Blame Qtopia blog by zecke'? Sep 16 02:32:57 * CP|Laptop gets the song "blame canada" suck in his head Sep 16 02:33:08 CP|Laptop: same here Sep 16 02:36:35 * CP|Laptop wonders if there's a better way to run filterdiff on a list of files then a for loop **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 16 02:59:56 2005