**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 02:59:57 2005 Sep 30 03:00:06 heh.. yet another daemon.. Sep 30 03:00:44 sometimes I hate how things are done in linux.. Sep 30 03:01:02 in the morning I had to reboot just because one process was "D" Sep 30 05:09:13 koen|uni: ping Sep 30 05:18:01 hi lardman|lunch Sep 30 05:39:26 lardman|lunch: pong Sep 30 06:20:24 koen: hi there, looks like a flame war might be about to kick off on oesf ;) Sep 30 06:21:11 you mean our OE forum? Sep 30 06:21:35 yeah, something like that :D Sep 30 06:21:41 where people discuss opensource *cough*sharprom, cacko *cough* ROMs? Sep 30 06:22:02 yep, sounds like the one Sep 30 06:22:17 I'll check later this afternoon Sep 30 06:22:33 lardman|work: in what forum? Sep 30 06:22:40 No one's bitten after my post, perhaps I bored them into submission ;) Sep 30 06:22:48 I bet the debian on oz topic Sep 30 06:22:52 yep Sep 30 06:22:52 yes Sep 30 06:22:57 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15143&hl= Sep 30 06:24:55 that thread demonstrates exactly why developers dislike forums: users are to lazy to search Sep 30 06:25:40 * koen reads Sep 30 06:25:44 yes, I quite agree - when I used the devnet back in the old days, it felt like the developer:user ratio was far larger Sep 30 06:26:08 lardman|work: nice post you did Sep 30 06:26:15 which meant far less back-biting and other useless opinions (which is what really annoys me about it atm) Sep 30 06:26:21 that's why I like ipaq users better: they have been exposed to wince and are gratefull for what you do Sep 30 06:26:30 koen: ;) Sep 30 06:26:48 hrw|work: We do need to get some positive publicity I think Sep 30 06:26:57 After each release I get loads of 'thank you' mails Sep 30 06:27:04 instead of 'foo is better' :) Sep 30 06:27:08 hrw|work: Well, perhaps need is too strong a word, but it can't hurt Sep 30 06:27:48 hrw|work: you're too diplomatic Sep 30 06:28:13 koen: yeah, the thing is there seems to be a vocal minority who have opinions they don't backup, and in general we (oz & OE devs) are copping the flak Sep 30 06:28:52 (hmm, is copping even word...?) Sep 30 06:29:11 Bernardo: sometimes I think that when I will write what I think then it will be disaster Sep 30 06:29:35 I get that too - I write it, then leave it for 10min, then come back and re-write Sep 30 06:29:48 ~change 17 gbp to pln Sep 30 06:29:52 17.00 Pound (GBP) makes 97.8738 Zloty (PLN) (from http://www.xe.com/) Sep 30 06:30:08 lardman|work: how much cost posting from UK to Poland? Sep 30 06:30:23 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAN-SDG1GB - SD 1GB card for 16.32 GBP.. Sep 30 06:31:24 hrw, that is way cheap Sep 30 06:31:30 even with posting Sep 30 06:31:35 ~change 17 gbp to eur Sep 30 06:31:39 17.00 Pound (GBP) makes 24.9360 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) Sep 30 06:31:48 wow Sep 30 06:31:56 1GB sandisk is E63 here Sep 30 06:32:13 koen: in switzerland I pay 80CHF for 512 mb Sep 30 06:32:18 I can't open that page in firefox... Sep 30 06:32:31 here I payed 80 euro for 1Gb 50x sd card Sep 30 06:32:36 ~change 80 chf to eur Sep 30 06:32:40 80.00 Franc (CHF) makes 51.4063 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) Sep 30 06:32:45 lol Sep 30 06:34:00 Looking at the site, I can only see 1GB sandisk cards for £58.64+VAT Sep 30 06:35:16 There's a 1GB SD for £31.80+VAT though which isn#'t bad Sep 30 06:35:26 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?RAM-SDM1G Sep 30 06:35:55 can't open the link hrw posted, looks like the site was /.ed Sep 30 06:36:21 now I got: "We were unable to find this Product in our database" Sep 30 06:36:30 that's what I got too Sep 30 06:36:58 I've got a 16Mb SD card atm :D Sep 30 06:37:06 I still get "The are currently no reviews for this product:", but it doesn't show any product Sep 30 06:37:34 ~change 160 pln to gpb Sep 30 06:37:39 160.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 1,276,483.22 Dollar (ZWD) (from http://www.xe.com/) Sep 30 06:37:45 ~change 160 pln to gbp Sep 30 06:37:49 160.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 27.7829 Pound (GBP) (from http://www.xe.com/) Sep 30 06:37:54 lardman|work: I have 64M in collie and 256M in camera Sep 30 06:38:22 hrw|work: Yes, my 256 moved into my camera and I'm 'using' the 16 which cam with that Sep 30 06:38:29 s/cam/came Sep 30 06:39:19 lardman|work: my camera has 12M builtin memory so it was without card Sep 30 06:41:33 * koen only has cf for cameras Sep 30 06:46:40 I have 16M cf from camera (not mine camera) Sep 30 06:47:31 I've got a 512MB CF which contains my local feed, plus mp3s, videos, etc. Sep 30 06:53:37 hmmm... my interactive shell compile is brokenish - has that been fixed in say, the last 6 months? Sep 30 06:56:39 morning Sep 30 07:15:26 any volunteers for adding kopi and stuff for X11 to OE? Sep 30 07:15:48 do we have qt3/x11 working? Sep 30 07:18:45 yes Sep 30 07:18:49 lyx uses it Sep 30 07:18:55 the problem can be with shared libs Sep 30 07:18:58 and lyx works :) Sep 30 07:19:24 I dont know does kdepimpi/x11 libs have same or other libs then /qte versions Sep 30 07:20:07 hostap-modules 0.4.5 builds fine. not tested Sep 30 07:20:18 hostapd 0.4.5 does not Sep 30 07:21:18 koen: will you volonteer to add portabase/x11? :P Sep 30 07:22:23 libs have same names ;( Sep 30 07:22:59 so we could end with /usr/lib/libmicrokdepim.so and /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokdepim.so Sep 30 07:23:25 x11 version will work as it wont have /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/ in LD_LIBRARY_PATH but /qte version will fail Sep 30 07:23:38 didn't zecke solve staging for qt a while ago? Sep 30 07:23:48 koen: been reading the other thread I replied to then...? Sep 30 07:23:54 how many people will have opie and X together? Sep 30 07:23:58 lardman|work: yes Sep 30 07:24:00 koen: on device? who knows.. Sep 30 07:24:12 do we want to support that? Sep 30 07:24:25 no manpower for this Sep 30 07:24:28 hrw|work: If they have the skills to set up the two together then they have the skills to deal with the lib issues I'd say Sep 30 07:24:34 I think not, with all the libsdl and other qte mangled libs Sep 30 07:27:29 how to use pdax feed: first do "mv *.ipk *.ipk.tar.gz" Sep 30 07:29:35 qt3x11 needs mysql-native????? ARGH.. Sep 30 07:29:51 looks like it will build whole weekend... Sep 30 07:30:51 This is kdepimpi/x11? Sep 30 07:31:07 lardman|work: I probably can build kdepimpi/x11 Sep 30 07:32:01 hrw|work: another non-reason for people to choose pdaXrom if you can Sep 30 07:32:13 will it be kopi-x11, kapi-x11, kopi-applet-x11, pwmpi-x11? but how to name libs? Sep 30 07:32:41 What you were talking about a few minutes ago? Collisions between x11 & opie versions? Sep 30 07:32:57 lardman|work: yes Sep 30 07:33:27 hrw|work: As you said, there are already collisions between things like sdl, I'd leave them with their normal names Sep 30 07:33:50 libmicrokcal1 is for qt/e so libmicrokcal1-x11 for x11? Sep 30 07:34:12 hrw|work: doesn't qt/e need mysql too? Sep 30 07:34:20 The two don;'t need to be built together though do they, so they could share the same names Sep 30 07:34:21 hrw|work: iirc schurig needed it Sep 30 07:34:57 lardman|work: kdepimpi libs are different for x11 and qt/e I think Sep 30 07:35:08 hrw|work: Or is it easy to rename them? libX11microcal1? Sep 30 07:35:37 lardman|work: I can rename them - but how to fool shlibs code? will have to look into Sep 30 07:35:55 hrw|work: Well don;'t rename them. libsdl is different too Sep 30 07:36:22 hrw|work: Just accept that they will have to be removed if someone wants to do an opie build rather than a gpe build Sep 30 07:36:33 we have been lazy Sep 30 07:36:40 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE-20050929-20050930.diff.bz2 is only 3.2 kb Sep 30 07:36:42 lardman|work: what about "bitbake world" for release then? Sep 30 07:36:57 hrw|work: that doesn't work Sep 30 07:37:00 never did Sep 30 07:37:02 koen: resting day after branch Sep 30 07:37:03 hrw|work: That doesn't work anyway though does it Sep 30 07:37:13 need a bitbake gpe world, etc. Sep 30 07:37:48 who will add fvwm, blackbox and few other strange WM? Sep 30 07:37:50 remove qmake -> bitbake work, clean, remove x11 -> bitbake world Sep 30 07:37:57 s/work/world/ Sep 30 07:38:23 that's pretty much the only way to get a working set of apps Sep 30 07:39:11 ok Sep 30 07:39:37 Do we realistically want more wms? Which is the one most of the pdaXrom lot are showing screenshots of - I'd say add that and be done witrh it Sep 30 07:41:30 Fluxbox? Sep 30 07:41:47 or xfce which we have already (maybe not polished but have) Sep 30 07:42:06 No it was xfce I was thinking of Sep 30 07:42:12 or rather yes .... Sep 30 07:42:52 we'll need a config gadget to select wms in GPE Sep 30 07:43:11 or ship a seperate xfce-image Sep 30 07:43:14 I don;t think they do that, they have to edit the init scripts Sep 30 07:43:25 so we can be even better :) Sep 30 07:43:29 of course :) Sep 30 07:43:45 do we have twm? I got it as default on pdaX :) Sep 30 07:44:35 Is that a joke? (I don;'t know enough about wms) Sep 30 07:45:01 We should try to get a useable e-image out though, that's cool. Sep 30 07:45:05 lardman|work: twm suxx but It was WM which I got after pdax install Sep 30 07:45:53 hi Sep 30 07:45:58 What about rox - there seems to be lots of talk about that Sep 30 07:46:34 rox is lightweight like xfce Sep 30 07:46:40 I know how to build it (maintained it for Debian for over year) but I refuse to do any work on it Sep 30 07:46:52 where 'lightweight' means 'annoys me' Sep 30 07:47:31 I was meaning to add xmms (just remembered seeing a pdaXrom screenshot) Sep 30 07:47:49 ugh Sep 30 07:47:51 even though it uses old gtk+ Sep 30 07:47:54 lardman|work: we have beepmp already Sep 30 07:47:55 talk about ugly gtk1 apps Sep 30 07:47:56 hmm, something' Sep 30 07:48:07 beepmp doesn't work on 16k displays Sep 30 07:48:08 hrw|work: beepmp doesn't display correctly Sep 30 07:48:23 so let someone fix it? Sep 30 07:48:42 I thought it was a major hack Sep 30 07:48:52 would need some major hacking Sep 30 07:49:16 hmm, something's wrong in ipkg-link-1.6cvs20050930-r1. bitbaking bootstrap-image give the message "ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied" and I don't know why ipkg wants to create a dir on the host file system. Sep 30 07:49:38 skytee: ignore it Sep 30 07:49:55 hrw|work: bitbake fails due to that. Sep 30 07:50:06 it doesn't Sep 30 07:50:10 skytee: no, search the log for ERROR Sep 30 07:50:30 (iirc) Sep 30 07:50:52 Time to do some work I fear Sep 30 07:54:20 while doing "bitbake bootstrap-image" Sep 30 07:54:23 -- | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied Sep 30 07:54:23 | Nothing to be done Sep 30 07:54:23 | An error ocurred, return value: 4. Sep 30 07:54:23 | Collected errors: Sep 30 07:54:25 | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. -- Sep 30 07:54:48 a little confusing. what dou you suppose where to look for the cause? Sep 30 07:54:53 30 16:56 < skytee> | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. -- Sep 30 07:54:54 here Sep 30 07:57:19 jupp. maybe it is just a coincidence that bitbake pulled ipkg-link-1.6cvs20050930-r1 and the error occured right after that. Sep 30 08:04:53 * CosmicPenguin sighs Sep 30 08:06:34 and another bug bites the dust Sep 30 08:09:03 koen: is -c compile expected to work these days? Sep 30 08:09:19 it should Sep 30 08:09:33 although I usually on;y use that with -b file.bb Sep 30 08:09:38 yeah, me too Sep 30 08:10:13 but I'm starting to play more with the interactive shell, and I want to start perfecting compiling and packaging the kernel without refetching Sep 30 08:10:32 but the -c compile is causing me an exception way up in quilt for some reason Sep 30 08:11:12 can't you do 'compile ' in bbsh? Sep 30 08:11:17 nope Sep 30 08:11:33 I thought it might have been a bbsh thing, but the command line does the same thing Sep 30 08:11:43 * CosmicPenguin turns on the verbose output Sep 30 08:12:12 ew Sep 30 08:12:53 NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39: started Sep 30 08:12:53 ERROR: InvalidTask event exception, aborting Sep 30 08:12:53 NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39: failed Sep 30 08:12:53 ERROR: Build of quilt failed Sep 30 08:13:41 but the -b method works Sep 30 08:13:52 hmm thats odd. used to work. try -c do_compile maybe? Sep 30 08:14:25 * CosmicPenguin tries Sep 30 08:14:38 please wait 16 hours while my poor opteron chokes on the caching Sep 30 08:14:41 opteron(s) Sep 30 08:15:45 kergoth: can you add permissions on berlios for zecke to release bitbake 1.3? Sep 30 08:15:55 k Sep 30 08:16:43 cool - too many new users start with 1.2.1 (last release) and have problems Sep 30 08:18:00 ah Sep 30 08:19:16 ERROR: dependency qt3-x11 (for qt-x11-free) not satisfied Sep 30 08:19:18 arg Sep 30 08:19:22 h Sep 30 08:19:47 anyone got a C3000 and installed GPE on it? Sep 30 08:19:59 Sess: Yes. Sep 30 08:20:04 I've found no references for spitz and GPE anywhere on the oe forums Sep 30 08:20:10 a little help noodles? Sep 30 08:20:23 I want true X on my c3000 and Xqt is pretty slow Sep 30 08:20:38 gimp is unusable Sep 30 08:20:42 mickey|zzZZzz: python 2.4.1 isn't building for me because all its patches are now in python-2.4.2 (but there is no python_2.4.2.bb) Sep 30 08:20:57 My gpe-image is from 17th Sept and worked IIRC. Sep 30 08:21:18 noodles, where can I get teh GPE image Sep 30 08:21:23 gimp is unusable with 64MB ram Sep 30 08:21:43 Sess: Oh, I built it myself. I don't know if there's a GPE release available for Spitz atm. Sep 30 08:22:05 koen: I've used gimp on the ipaq 3650 running opie years ago Sep 30 08:22:26 so me thinks it should work fine on the c3000 with an accelerated X Sep 30 08:22:28 server Sep 30 08:22:30 ok, a recent gimp is unusable on 64 mb Sep 30 08:22:44 Im just want 1.2.5 working and Ill be happy Sep 30 08:23:05 well, perhaps you can answer this Sep 30 08:23:09 ah, I tried gimp 2.3.3 Sep 30 08:23:25 is it possible to "switch" virtual terminals on teh C3000 running the latest cacko rom? Sep 30 08:23:35 ~lart mickey|zzZZzz for ERROR: dependency qt3-x11 (for qt-x11-free) not satisfied Sep 30 08:23:35 * ibot nukes mickey|zzZZzz with a single large nuke for ERROR: dependency qt3-x11 (for qt-x11-free) not satisfied Sep 30 08:23:44 Sess: do we support cacko? Sep 30 08:23:52 hmm, http://www.oesources.org/source/current/busybox-1.01.tar.gz is missing Sep 30 08:24:15 you make a good point Sep 30 08:24:37 it says it right in teh topic, pardon me plz Sep 30 08:25:43 kergoth: do_compile didn't work either Sep 30 08:26:40 awe... you mean i state the wrong questions? Sep 30 08:28:41 skytee: grab it from busybox.net then Sep 30 08:31:22 hrw|work: I just found in the forum some german guys build of GPE for the spitz, I think Im gonna try it Sep 30 08:31:51 I wanted to ask first, if there was by chance GPE library that handled QT apps Sep 30 08:32:28 I would assume that would allow for some opie compatibility, or perhaps Im just wrong about teh way qtopia and opie work Sep 30 08:32:54 like a special gpe libqt Sep 30 08:33:08 heh Sep 30 08:33:19 gpe is all about not needing qtopia/qt Sep 30 08:33:51 much like my life Sep 30 08:34:17 except s/qtopia/intel/ ? Sep 30 08:34:32 more like += intel Sep 30 08:34:46 But I need intel in my life - otherwise, who would we beat? Sep 30 08:36:12 ook, Im going for it Sep 30 08:36:19 Sess: help moving opie to qt4/x11 so you will get X11 with opie stuff Sep 30 08:37:37 hrw|work: I've never really done any handheld linux development. I've only done some Pocketpc game programming, and written a few larger desktop linux apps Sep 30 08:37:54 Im trying to break into zaurus development, but I haven't even gotten my onboard dev environment variables set yet Sep 30 08:38:08 If I can get GPE working Im in ;) Sep 30 08:39:03 cya Sep 30 08:39:20 hrw, jbowler-zzz: bugs fixed Sep 30 08:39:29 also I hope I don't get flamed for asking this, but pdaXrom looks sweet. I haven't used GPE for years, not since it was very unstable on the ipaq 3600. I want pure X with PDA functionality, so I assume that GPE is the best choice.. Sep 30 08:39:55 so the Q is pdaXrom or GPE for mobile development and PDA Sep 30 08:40:21 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf0fa6efb... 10/classes/ (qt3x11.bbclass qt4x11.bbclass): class qt3x11, qt4x11: remove DEPENDS Sep 30 08:40:25 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5ef8750d... 10/packages/python/ (python_2.4.1.bb python_2.4.2.bb): python: upgrade to 2.4.2 Sep 30 08:40:32 Sess: well, I donk't know, Why not ask the pdaXrom people? Sep 30 08:41:02 because I don't know about the changes in GPE since 2002 Sep 30 08:41:15 Ask hrw, he tried psaXrom yesterday Sep 30 08:41:20 pdaXrom even Sep 30 08:41:32 Only lasted a matter of hours though ;) Sep 30 08:42:14 well I suppose it doesn't really even matter, Im pretty set on installing GPE Sep 30 08:42:31 cu Sep 30 08:42:32 I guess Im a little nervous about flashing someone elses untested build onto my zaurus Sep 30 08:44:24 kergoth: happen to know whether there's any way to get at ${PV} of another .bb? is that possible at all? Sep 30 08:44:42 of which .bb? Sep 30 08:44:53 point being, you can have multiple; versions of a thing around Sep 30 08:45:03 mickeyl: thanks, got the changes (I'm putting in PREFERRED_PROVIDER_x11 ?= "diet-x11" Sep 30 08:45:08 your real question is.. "how can i get the ${PV} of the currently selected provider of X" Sep 30 08:45:17 to which the answer is, i'm afraid not, but itd be nice Sep 30 08:45:18 kergoth: right Sep 30 08:45:30 :) Sep 30 08:45:31 hmm. too bad Sep 30 08:46:26 I'm trying to get dependency info for non-C/C++ libs right. Sep 30 08:47:32 i.e. I need the >= ${PV of lib} in RDEPENDS :/ Sep 30 08:48:01 look at how it works for our shlibs Sep 30 08:48:05 its ugly. very ugly. but it works Sep 30 08:48:13 it writes out seperate files with such info into staging Sep 30 08:48:20 then reads them later Sep 30 08:48:50 yeah. I know. just thought there must be an easier way ;) Sep 30 08:49:11 hehe. if there was, it wouldnt be doing it that way ;) Sep 30 08:49:33 nod Sep 30 08:56:00 Sess: See if Noodles can provide you with his build Sep 30 09:10:53 what would I rename pivot-boot.image.img to if I were flashing my system? would that be initrd.img so it redirects booting from teh flash to the cf microdrive? Sep 30 09:11:43 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-c3000/ ? Sep 30 09:12:16 lardman, Already read that Sep 30 09:12:54 Im was just looking at someone elses build of GPE, it has the pivotboot file, but I wanted to be sure I knew what I was doing first Sep 30 09:13:06 no initrd.img, and no updater.sh Sep 30 09:13:19 Move this to #openzaurus, then give me an url and I'll take a guess Sep 30 09:13:26 k Sep 30 09:25:02 THis -c compile thing is irritating me Sep 30 09:26:34 cya later Sep 30 09:36:30 kergoth: in bitbake (the code) is there any storage of inter-file dependencies? i.e. if one bb file includes or inherits another is this information stored? Sep 30 09:36:42 kergoth: if not, any idea where I should look specifically? Sep 30 09:37:26 for inherit, yes, for include, i dont think so Sep 30 09:37:26 night all Sep 30 09:37:30 look in the parser Sep 30 09:37:51 if all you care about is inherit, look at the function in base.bbclass that checks if something is inherited Sep 30 09:38:05 ok Sep 30 09:38:36 I'm wanting to update the "reparse" command to reparse all related files Sep 30 09:38:44 good luck. Sep 30 09:38:48 thanks Sep 30 09:41:11 why do people keep thinking 'arm' patches to glibc will interfere with other archs? Sep 30 09:41:22 sorry Sep 30 09:41:34 sometimes patches have architecture specific things Sep 30 09:41:34 if that was the case, it would have been SRC_URI_append_arm = "foo" Sep 30 09:41:47 I haven't heard anyone refute that so I keep saying it Sep 30 09:42:11 I'll stop now, then Sep 30 09:42:35 chris144 was building for x86 Sep 30 09:43:19 I think he solved the problem by using a newer glibc version Sep 30 09:51:55 ~seen chris144 Sep 30 09:51:57 ~seen chris144|home Sep 30 09:52:00 chris144 was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 14d 19h 41m 24s ago, saying: 'not bad, still working on hardware stuff, I hope to be back on oe in a few months... :-)'. Sep 30 09:52:01 chris144|home was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 12d 21h 33m 54s ago, saying: 'koen: glibc+cvs20050917 is building. thanks for your help.'. Sep 30 09:52:10 woohoo Sep 30 09:52:39 mmmmm monotone is sloooow Sep 30 09:57:09 chouimat|lunch: deal with it Sep 30 10:10:55 how are the files in /etc/modutils generated? by kernel.bbclass? Sep 30 10:12:15 They are in one of the packages, then depmod -Ae is run at boot. Sep 30 10:12:32 are they added to the packages automatically? Sep 30 10:12:56 jbowler-zzz: did anyone ever fix the endianness issues wrt generating the module dep info at image creation time for module-init-tools? Sep 30 10:13:17 Normally the relevant package (it might be base-files or it might be one of the mod-utils ones) are a dependency of the image. Sep 30 10:13:39 kergoth: I thought I fixed that months ago - I fixed the endianness problem in the arm elf tools. Sep 30 10:13:48 ah, cool Sep 30 10:13:58 * kergoth hasnt kept up with such things, been outta the loop Sep 30 10:14:04 module deps are fine (and correct) on NSLU2 at present Sep 30 10:14:11 glad to hear it Sep 30 10:14:25 The problem was that objdump or something like that actually crashed when run on a BE ARM ELF from an x86... Sep 30 10:14:39 * kergoth nods Sep 30 10:15:27 ...hum, or was that only packages? I can't remember - several people fixed things in kernel.bbclass too I think. Sep 30 10:15:41 mreimer: /etc/init.d/modutils should do that Sep 30 10:17:41 koen: it runs depmod -Ae, but it doesn't populate /etc/modutils Sep 30 10:17:43 mreimer: 'for i in `cat /etc/modules` ;do echo $i > /etc/modutils/$i ; done' Sep 30 10:17:49 hmmm Sep 30 10:18:01 update-modules? Sep 30 10:18:23 I know something reads /etc/modutils/* Sep 30 10:18:44 I think update-modules basically cats all the files in /etc/modutils to /etc/modules Sep 30 10:19:16 jbowler-zzz just said there should be a file in the package that goes in /etc/modutils, but my question is, what puts that file in the package? Sep 30 10:20:07 mreimer: a package (any package) can put a file into the directory, but I don't think anything in the build does that at present. Sep 30 10:20:34 I.e. modutils sets up a basic framework, but other things can add to it. Sep 30 10:20:40 how do other distros populate /etc/modutils? is it usually done by hand? Sep 30 10:21:02 NSLU2 doesn't - the default is sufficient and nothing needs to be preloaded. Sep 30 10:21:28 is mickeyl the kernel.bbclass maintainer? I suppose he'd be the guy to ask? Sep 30 10:21:41 ... what are you trying to do? Sep 30 10:22:50 If /etc/modutils is properly populated, a proper /etc/modules will be generated with all the nifty aliases etc to allow modules to be autoloaded as needed; e.g. if /dev/dsp is opened, snd-pcm-oss gets loaded Sep 30 10:23:08 if I'm understanding correctly Sep 30 10:24:10 The aliases can't be auto generated (so far as I know). Sep 30 10:24:30 There's an explicit eth0 -> ixp0 (or something like that) for NSLU2. Sep 30 10:25:36 Ah, here's an example: alias net-pf-17 af_packet ... that comes from /etc/modules/af_packet.conf on NSLU2 Sep 30 10:25:55 there's gotta be someplace we can get these files Sep 30 10:27:06 I see in kernel.bbclass "module_conf_af_packet = "alias net-pf-17 af_packet" Sep 30 10:27:18 so do we need to teach kernel.bbclass about all the standard modules? Sep 30 10:27:56 That af_packet.conf is coming from somewhere, but I haven't found where yet... Sep 30 10:28:11 if anything, they should be set in a configuration file Sep 30 10:28:42 It looks like kernel.bbclass is doing it automagically - at least in this case - I have: Sep 30 10:28:51 ./openslug-kernel-2.6.14-rc2-r5.1/install/kernel-module-af-packet/etc/modutils/af_packet.conf Sep 30 10:29:19 jbowler-zzz: see kernel.bbclass near comment "Write oue any modconf fragment" Sep 30 10:30:45 koen: http://handhelds.org/~mreimer/mmc/20050930 Sep 30 10:31:07 koen: you'll need the zImage and modules.tgz, since adding ipv6 changed zImage Sep 30 10:31:17 thanks Sep 30 10:31:38 so is mickeyl the kernel.bbclass maintainer? Sep 30 10:32:26 ... look at the monotone log Sep 30 10:32:47 if it's me, check bk history :) Sep 30 10:33:02 since the switch I 'own' most of OE Sep 30 10:33:11 So there's a hand carved list of aliases at the top of kernel.bbclass, but others could be added to the .bb file Sep 30 10:33:24 Yes, I find bk history pretty useful ;-) Sep 30 10:34:14 how do I check the monotone log? Sep 30 10:34:27 monotone log Sep 30 10:34:53 monotone log - it requires the full path from the root. Sep 30 10:34:57 the man page says "log [id]". I suppose [id] is an optional argument before the filename? Sep 30 10:35:47 I suspect it's a half baked attempt to distinguish an entry in the database from a file name. Sep 30 10:49:22 ok, here's how it seems to work: for a given module, a file is written to /etc/modutils/$name if module_autoload_$name is defined in the conf file. Additionally, if module_conf_$name is defined, its value is written to /etc/modutils/$name.conf. Sep 30 11:06:45 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * re965f050... 10/packages/ (76 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) Sep 30 11:06:45 e17, efl: major upgrade to newer versions Sep 30 11:06:45 - Upgraded shapshot-based packages to newest released snapshots Sep 30 11:06:45 - Upgraded CVS-based packages to use a newer date Sep 30 11:06:45 - Moved e and e-wm to use snapshots as a default instead of CVS Sep 30 11:06:45 - Updated patches to work with newer versions Sep 30 11:06:47 - Added patches to fix problems introduced in newer versions Sep 30 11:06:59 wheeee Sep 30 11:07:22 no wonder that took me forever....76 files.... Sep 30 11:07:44 nice Sep 30 11:07:48 does it work? :P Sep 30 11:07:51 yes Sep 30 11:07:58 finally works again for me Sep 30 11:08:10 just now running a ne wcompile from scratch to make absolutely sure Sep 30 11:14:06 now I just need to figure out what's up with elitaire.... Sep 30 11:20:07 * JustinP hugs e17 Sep 30 11:20:13 it's so nice to have you back Sep 30 11:22:10 is there any way I can "cherry pick" that commit I just did and apply it to the oz354 branch? It would be nice to have e working in the releases....in alpha/beta form at least Sep 30 11:22:59 no Sep 30 11:23:15 you can attach a diff to #350 Sep 30 11:23:32 * JustinP snorts Sep 30 11:23:47 lots of renames in there....I don't think a diff will suffice Sep 30 11:24:02 it will Sep 30 11:24:06 ok Sep 30 11:24:09 I'll try then... Sep 30 11:24:31 why attach to the bug? for other people to check or are specific people only set up to commit to that branch? Sep 30 11:24:37 download http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=5ef8750d9a69c84b19f6d9bf623a45342b0b07b5&id2=ff035627e2768f661dfb577d5e297e704ef5e67d and attach it to bugzilla Sep 30 11:25:06 only mickeyl and me should touch that branch Sep 30 11:25:23 since we want it to be stable and controlled Sep 30 11:26:02 ok, fine by me Sep 30 11:26:05 done Sep 30 11:26:19 drat Sep 30 11:26:24 ? Sep 30 11:26:25 I linked to the merge Sep 30 11:26:30 oh... Sep 30 11:26:34 * JustinP can fix it Sep 30 11:26:38 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=65a4fc67141ef415039e43150c9eeb702fdf66a2&id2=e965f050d16d0a1cfe49ed571b5f989a6b66b121 Sep 30 11:26:41 that's the one Sep 30 11:27:45 I don't think there's a difference... Sep 30 11:28:26 nope, no difference Sep 30 11:28:42 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=ff035627e2768f661dfb577d5e297e704ef5e67d is a bit misleading Sep 30 11:28:43 I checked with a quick diff of the diffs Sep 30 11:29:10 misleading? Sep 30 11:29:47 the revision details list a batch of other files Sep 30 11:30:02 ok.... Sep 30 11:30:09 well that's becaus eit's a merge I suppose Sep 30 11:30:16 yeah Sep 30 11:30:23 I thought that would reflect in the diff Sep 30 11:30:35 nope Sep 30 11:31:04 which doesn't make any sense to me Sep 30 11:31:23 makes perfect sense Sep 30 11:31:29 either it should be empty or have all diffs Sep 30 11:31:39 if you diff form the merge to the other parent (not mine) it should be the same as my rev to its parent Sep 30 11:32:10 if you diff from the merge to my rev you'll get everything other than my changes (all the stuff from my rev's parent to the other half of the merge) Sep 30 11:32:18 that does make sense Sep 30 11:32:20 hmmm...that's probably not understandable Sep 30 11:32:49 it diffs one head against the other Sep 30 12:12:54 hi chouimat Sep 30 12:16:31 hey RP you around? Sep 30 12:16:38 gotta ask a question about the spitz gpe kernel Sep 30 12:20:43 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r7090b2f5... 10/packages/e17/entrance/config-db.patch: entrance: Make the Default session Englightenment since the sesion chooser doesn't work Sep 30 12:56:56 Sess: GPE has nothing to do with the kernel Sep 30 13:03:41 hey JustinP your gonna hate me but ...the snapshots are going to change to working versions in ~ 2weeks Sep 30 13:03:57 "working versions"? Sep 30 13:04:19 yeah they have a few ... problems Sep 30 13:04:24 and yes, I do hate raster et al who put out those super-broken snapshots Sep 30 13:04:28 yes, I noticed Sep 30 13:04:32 see my recent commit Sep 30 13:04:34 lol Sep 30 13:04:50 raster i dont think even reccomends the snapshots Sep 30 13:04:52 build fine form OE now Sep 30 13:04:59 i think thats a gnetoo guy Sep 30 13:05:07 well....people here say don't use CVS people in othe rplaces say don't use snapshots.... Sep 30 13:05:13 nah a bunch of core stuff changed again Sep 30 13:05:28 I don't know what to think Sep 30 13:05:39 just so you know if people complain about e not behaving Sep 30 13:05:40 I *assumed* that the snapshots would be at least somewhat stable Sep 30 13:05:43 guess I was wrong Sep 30 13:05:58 well e17 isnt stable ... Sep 30 13:06:02 stable as in *compile-able* at least... Sep 30 13:06:05 the snapshots are just that Sep 30 13:06:09 I didn't mean stable Sep 30 13:06:12 ah Sep 30 13:06:35 and no, it doesn't behave Sep 30 13:06:39 yeah they will compile but wont work with the updated themes adn menus Sep 30 13:06:49 I'd use all CVS but the last time I tried that I had segfaults all over the place Sep 30 13:06:58 eh? Sep 30 13:07:02 what updated themes? Sep 30 13:07:06 what updated menus? Sep 30 13:07:09 seems to work fine for me... Sep 30 13:07:26 the way borders were handled has been changed amoung numerous other things Sep 30 13:07:43 ok Sep 30 13:07:44 so? Sep 30 13:07:52 it's running on my Z right now.... Sep 30 13:08:02 well the border change specifically broke all the themes Sep 30 13:08:08 as long as the build I have works I don't care that they're changin internals Sep 30 13:08:17 and I don't care about external themes Sep 30 13:08:22 as long as the ones in source work I'm fine Sep 30 13:08:45 yeah i think winter is the only one that works currently Sep 30 13:09:01 ::shrug:: Sep 30 13:09:14 i cant remember what changed for menues Sep 30 13:11:42 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rc76952a2... 10/packages/bash/bash_3.0.bb: bash: create sysconfdir/shells upon install Sep 30 13:15:00 NAiL: you probably want to change that into "grep -q" Sep 30 13:15:45 after i pulled the db, i got about 30 errors about disgarding revision data packets due to unmet dependencies... is that normal? Sep 30 13:16:07 reenoo_: good point Sep 30 13:43:32 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r7cef5076... 10/packages/bash/bash_3.0.bb: bash: kill the output from grepping after shells Sep 30 13:43:36 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r70ec7862... 10/packages/samba/ (samba_3.0.14a.bb samba_3.0.20.bb): samba: fix mount.smbfs symlink, so mounting smbfs works Sep 30 13:45:25 zecke: hi Sep 30 13:46:17 * france is back (gone 174:17:17) Sep 30 13:46:24 hey Sep 30 13:46:26 * zecke got his game cube Sep 30 13:47:28 wow, you sure waited ;-) Sep 30 13:47:39 not that I was an early adopter or anything.... Sep 30 13:47:45 heh Sep 30 13:53:49 if you waited this long, why didnt you wait until the Revolution was released? Sep 30 13:55:45 no kidding I'm poor (in regard to money) Sep 30 13:56:23 so with the games, controler, and memory cards... I would have to wait years before getting the revolution Sep 30 13:59:55 i am having some trouble with getting monotone to work... it keeps erroring out with misuse Sep 30 14:00:18 what kind of misuse? Sep 30 14:00:29 working copy directory required but not found Sep 30 14:00:43 i have already pulled from the db, and did the updates Sep 30 14:01:04 ok Sep 30 14:01:07 did you check out? Sep 30 14:01:12 check out? Sep 30 14:01:19 no.. that isnt in the walkthrough Sep 30 14:01:25 you need to check out the files before using them... Sep 30 14:01:31 montone co Sep 30 14:01:56 and the filename? Sep 30 14:03:57 this is probably a stupid question, but i thought that when you use gentoo's emerge, it does all of this for you? Sep 30 14:04:29 I'm pretty sure that all Gentoo installs start from a tarball from a CD Sep 30 14:04:40 The database has to come from some place Sep 30 14:04:55 yeah, i pulled the database lastnight Sep 30 14:05:03 it just finished Sep 30 14:05:16 spinpress: *what*? Sep 30 14:05:24 spinpress: Gentoo has nothing to do with OE Sep 30 14:05:42 spinpress: you said you got the monotone DB, right? Sep 30 14:05:52 spinpress: now you need to check out a copy of the OE files from the db file Sep 30 14:06:26 okay, typing monotone co gave me a misuse Sep 30 14:06:44 good nite Sep 30 14:07:54 spinpress: of course it did Sep 30 14:08:00 spinpress: try reading the directions again Sep 30 14:08:33 what the.... Sep 30 14:09:03 oh, no, it is in there Sep 30 14:09:09 monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev <---- this is what it tells me Sep 30 14:09:15 yep Sep 30 14:10:16 spinpress: is your db in /stuff/oe.db? Sep 30 14:10:23 yeah Sep 30 14:10:38 i see now.. i was getting a permissions denied when i ran it Sep 30 14:11:47 cp: cannot stat `../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample': No such file or directory Sep 30 14:11:48 It went right back to the error again Sep 30 14:12:11 cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf <---- that is the line i run Sep 30 14:12:27 spinpress: did you check out? Sep 30 14:12:31 yes Sep 30 14:12:51 spinpress: and it worked? Sep 30 14:13:05 i got no error running as root Sep 30 14:13:06 spinpress: so figure it out...what directory/file doesn't exist? Sep 30 14:13:12 DO NOT run as root Sep 30 14:13:13 ! Sep 30 14:13:29 you could quite easily overwrite parts of your operating system running bitbake/OE as root Sep 30 14:13:32 don't do it Sep 30 14:13:32 then how do i grant my accont access Sep 30 14:13:43 this is not a linux support channel Sep 30 14:13:45 chown -R USER:GROUP Sep 30 14:13:46 i ran just that line in root Sep 30 14:14:10 I think you have more problems than getting access....you need to get a handle on Linux as well Sep 30 14:14:51 hey, i came here for support.. all i am asking is for help to get oe working.. are you going to offer me that? Sep 30 14:15:24 he is helping you Sep 30 14:15:36 its rather assumed you know how to do basic OS admin Sep 30 14:15:57 if you don't know how to check to see if a directory or file exists then you're way over your head Sep 30 14:16:39 i do know that.. sry... it just seemed easier to do it that way.. next time i will chmod Sep 30 14:18:11 there is a good chance at some point BB+OE will escape and overwrite your host system if you run as root. Not all source code is written properly, many have hardcoded system links that BB cant override Sep 30 14:23:19 i understand, thank you Sep 30 14:24:18 the change isn't only good, its great Sep 30 14:24:23 chance even Sep 30 14:24:49 so, how come i keep getting misuse errors? Sep 30 14:25:16 because you're misusing something Sep 30 14:26:15 i dont understand how i am misusing something when i am following the guide? Sep 30 14:29:27 well, thanks everyone.. you have offered GREAT help Sep 30 14:29:39 well, what are you doing that's causing the problem? Sep 30 14:30:15 following the guide... i dont know.. thats why i am here... hoping someone here can help!! Sep 30 14:30:18 you said you got a checkout....what are you doing that's causing a misuse? Sep 30 14:30:28 I can't help you unless you tell me what causes the problem Sep 30 14:31:14 okay, after the checkout, i go to create local configuration Sep 30 14:31:21 yes.... Sep 30 14:31:34 and run this line... cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf Sep 30 14:31:49 and there's no way that would cause a "misuse" error... Sep 30 14:32:15 so...do you know ow to use cp? If it says something doesn't exist, try looking to see which part doesn't exist Sep 30 14:32:23 is it ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample or conf/ ? Sep 30 14:32:31 yeah.. i get this Sep 30 14:32:33 cp: cannot stat `../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample': No such file or directory Sep 30 14:32:40 how is that not there though Sep 30 14:32:51 second.. how do i get it there... where does it come from Sep 30 14:32:51 ok....so does ../org.openembedded.dev exist? Sep 30 14:32:59 you said you did a checkout Sep 30 14:33:04 yes Sep 30 14:33:14 did you really do a checkout or did you only do a pull? Sep 30 14:33:51 i did a pull, then the checkout Sep 30 14:33:59 ok...so where did you checkout to? Sep 30 14:34:06 perhaps it's not into the dir you think it's in Sep 30 14:34:35 monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev Sep 30 14:34:39 thats what i did Sep 30 14:34:58 ok Sep 30 14:35:05 so where did it checkout to? Sep 30 14:35:11 try "ls" Sep 30 14:35:53 stuff/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev Sep 30 14:36:02 ? Sep 30 14:36:18 what's that? Sep 30 14:36:18 thats what is says Sep 30 14:36:22 where it went Sep 30 14:36:27 I doubt that "ls" outputs that Sep 30 14:36:44 if you have a directory structure like that you screwed up somewhere Sep 30 14:36:48 roberts@localhost /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev $ ls Sep 30 14:36:48 COPYING.MIT MT README classes conf contrib files packages site Sep 30 14:36:48 roberts@localhost /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev $ Sep 30 14:37:05 ok Sep 30 14:37:14 so.... Sep 30 14:37:17 cd ../build Sep 30 14:37:19 mkdir conf Sep 30 14:37:33 cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf Sep 30 14:38:08 roberts@localhost /stuff/build $ cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf Sep 30 14:38:08 cp: cannot stat `../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample': No such file or directory Sep 30 14:38:20 ohh Sep 30 14:38:33 put 2 org.openembedded.dev dirs Sep 30 14:39:25 your directory structure is off Sep 30 14:39:52 is there a way to start this over? Sep 30 14:40:08 umerge everything, remove all dirs and start over? Sep 30 14:40:17 i think it would be more beneficial Sep 30 14:40:24 sure....just delete it and start over.... Sep 30 14:40:29 okay Sep 30 14:40:34 or you could just remove that org.openembedded.dev directory Sep 30 14:40:37 and start over from checkout Sep 30 14:41:52 yeah, but i keep getting permission errors too.. i think it has something to do with emerging as well Sep 30 14:41:58 i dont know.. Sep 30 14:42:08 i cant even change the permission rights Sep 30 14:42:17 lol Sep 30 14:42:18 nm Sep 30 14:42:29 as root: chown USER directory -R Sep 30 14:42:31 i cant chmod unless i am su Sep 30 14:42:34 yes Sep 30 14:42:47 you need to chown, not chmod Sep 30 14:42:48 lol.. you guys got me all worked up about not using root... lol Sep 30 14:42:53 okay Sep 30 14:42:56 don't run OE as root Sep 30 14:43:07 if you'd started this as a normal user instead of root you'd have no problems Sep 30 14:43:22 i am not familiar with chown.. i have always used chmod Sep 30 14:43:25 as it is you just need to become root, chown it all to you, then get back to being not root Sep 30 14:43:53 just chown the stuff dir? Sep 30 14:44:07 will it do all of the sub-dirs Sep 30 14:44:48 okay, i did the cp line Sep 30 14:44:52 and it worked Sep 30 14:47:45 -R Sep 30 14:49:31 so, the path to my openembedded files is ../org.openembedded.dev/org.open.embedded.dev/ Sep 30 14:49:32 ?? Sep 30 14:49:52 (for the BBFILES) Sep 30 14:50:11 use a full path Sep 30 14:50:24 yeah .. /stuff/build Sep 30 14:50:31 orr /stuff Sep 30 14:54:35 Use the BBMASK below to instruct BitBake to _NOT_ consider some .bb files Sep 30 14:54:40 what does that mean? Sep 30 14:54:48 exactly what it says Sep 30 14:55:10 okay, what am i suppose to be doing? Sep 30 14:55:12 any bb file which matches a pattern in BBMASK is not parsed Sep 30 14:55:20 leave it alone Sep 30 14:55:23 okay Sep 30 15:00:41 hey JustinP just reading your comment about cvs URI, was BB's CVS handling removed ? Sep 30 15:00:54 removed? Sep 30 15:00:55 no Sep 30 15:01:08 I just wasn't sure how to have it grab a single file Sep 30 15:01:19 probably just put it in the URI....I didn't try Sep 30 15:01:24 ~lart me for not trying Sep 30 15:01:24 * ibot takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in justinp's direction, hitting justinp and sending justinp flying into the closet for not trying Sep 30 15:01:37 that's an interesting one.... Sep 30 15:02:10 just saw your cvsview ... method Sep 30 15:02:14 is why i ask Sep 30 15:03:03 hehe Sep 30 15:03:11 it was just the easiest way for me to get it done Sep 30 15:04:05 ah, you happened to have your browser open to the cvsview already Sep 30 15:04:08 :P Sep 30 15:04:33 yeah, viewing it in my browser was much more convenient Sep 30 15:04:41 * JustinP delets a bunch of old tmpdirs Sep 30 15:33:28 JustinP: have another error Sep 30 15:34:23 nm Sep 30 15:42:31 ERROR: The following variable(s) were not set: TARGET_ARCH, TARGET_OS Sep 30 15:42:31 Please set them directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that sets them. <----- How do I do this? Sep 30 15:42:41 local.conf Sep 30 15:42:44 it's right in there Sep 30 15:43:41 the 'specify a machine to build for' Sep 30 15:44:00 and target architecture Sep 30 15:44:31 set a MACHINE and DISTRO Sep 30 15:44:59 I have an HP iPAQ 2215, what would i put? "hp2215" Sep 30 15:46:14 spinpress: MACHINE="h3900", DISTRO="familiar-0.8.3", KERNEL="kernel26" Sep 30 15:47:01 there is no decimal between 2 and 6 in the kernel? Sep 30 15:47:05 no Sep 30 15:47:08 k Sep 30 15:47:14 thanks Sep 30 15:47:22 spinpress: I can mail you my local.conf if you want Sep 30 15:47:37 sure, that would be appreciated Sep 30 15:47:46 williamjonah@aol.com Sep 30 15:47:46 what's your email address? Sep 30 15:48:32 sent Sep 30 15:48:37 thank you Sep 30 15:48:41 you're welcome Sep 30 15:51:06 i didnt get it Sep 30 15:51:20 here http://sh.nu/p/520 Sep 30 15:51:31 just use pastebin ;) Sep 30 15:54:34 http://pastebin.ca/24329 Sep 30 16:03:15 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * r381f5ac5... 10/packages/avetanabt/ (files/maxConnectedDevices.patch avetanabt_cvs.bb): Sep 30 16:03:15 avetana_cvs: some cosmetic changes and working patch Sep 30 16:03:15 * better descriptions, use staging-only commands, remove cd handling Sep 30 16:03:15 * now working patch (replaces avetanalocaldevice.patch) Sep 30 16:07:16 * france is away: Away Sep 30 16:10:49 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * re83da273... 10/packages/avetanabt/files/avetanalocaldevice.patch: avetanabt_cvs: remove avetanalocaldevice.patch Sep 30 16:41:56 ~change usd 2.95 to nok Sep 30 16:41:58 that doesn't look right Sep 30 16:42:02 hrrm Sep 30 17:06:48 nope Sep 30 17:06:58 bitbake's CVS fetcher can't handle single files Sep 30 17:07:10 it will be pulled fine but it then fails because it's not a directory Sep 30 17:55:59 okay, Serenity is one fucking sweet movie Sep 30 17:56:51 is that the firefly movie? Sep 30 17:57:39 yeah Sep 30 18:13:35 should I consult my internet backup of firefly or just watch the movie? Sep 30 18:14:04 * JustinP is planning on seeing it in an hour or so Sep 30 18:14:10 I've only seen half the series or so... Sep 30 18:14:31 5 episodes or so Sep 30 18:21:52 ~stab libtool Sep 30 18:21:54 * ibot runs at libtool with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Sep 30 18:23:41 libtool: compile: cannot determine name of library object from `libaddons.la' Sep 30 18:24:06 * reenoo_ clueless Sep 30 18:28:50 err Sep 30 18:28:54 doh Sep 30 18:29:09 * reenoo_ heads off to bed Sep 30 18:29:12 'night all Sep 30 18:29:21 'night reenoo_ Sep 30 18:47:07 hey Sep 30 18:47:25 in the bb for sqlite, it tries to download http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite-3.2.5.tar.g Sep 30 18:47:30 but that file does not exist... Sep 30 18:56:31 NOTE: package sqlite3-3.2.7-r0: task do_fetch: started Sep 30 18:56:31 NOTE: fetch http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite-3.2.7.tar.gz Sep 30 19:57:59 * france is back (gone 03:50:43) Sep 30 20:33:01 * france is away: Away Sep 30 21:53:04 what happened to monotone.vanille.de? Sep 30 21:53:18 i can't check out Sep 30 21:53:23 err pull Oct 01 02:09:10 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r8233fc7a... 10/packages/freeze/files/freeze: freeze: regular expressions to recognise x11 package versions correctly Oct 01 02:09:14 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r8cc66088... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Oct 01 02:09:14 python(openslug), openslug kernel: enable tcl/tk in python, move kernel to 2.6.14-rc2 Oct 01 02:09:14 The changes overlap (in conf/distro/openslug.conf), the kernel change is, however, Oct 01 02:09:14 only the version change in that file. Oct 01 02:09:18 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r2fd17401... 10/packages/ (9 files in 5 dirs): ixp intel drivers: ixp4xx v1.5 ixp425-eth v1.2 Oct 01 02:34:55 <_alwin_> hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 01 02:59:56 2005