**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 05 02:59:56 2005 Oct 05 03:03:29 hrw: now, is there a way to make opie not react to those buttons? or do I need to patch the sources? Oct 05 03:04:07 df00z: cant tell now - I have to look on device Oct 05 03:04:13 koen: what about gtkboard? Oct 05 03:04:45 hrw: Well I know it's not the kernel doing it, outside of opie nothing happens anywhere, but I'm having trouble finding where opie reads those buttons Oct 05 03:05:05 hrw|work: what's that? Oct 05 03:05:35 nm, http://gtkboard.sourceforge.net/ Oct 05 03:06:26 koen: many games in one - pdax people likes that Oct 05 03:09:33 ah Oct 05 03:09:36 odevice_zaurus Oct 05 03:10:15 df00z: you know that any changes which you want to make in opie and have in OE need acceptation from opie team? Oct 05 03:10:18 :) Oct 05 03:10:44 yeah, I know. I'm just looking to see if theres a way for an external program to control what those keys would do Oct 05 03:10:50 i could whip up a quick QT program then Oct 05 03:11:12 I just wanna see if theres a way to disable the suspending and light off and other stuff Oct 05 03:12:45 I should really just switch to GPE or something Oct 05 03:18:51 HardKey_Backlight isn't even defined in odevice_zaurus Oct 05 03:20:31 hrw|work: you in any position to try and build xserver-kdrive for c7x0? Oct 05 03:20:38 df00z: its OE or OPIE problem? Oct 05 03:20:49 XorA: 20050912 is ok? Oct 05 03:20:49 OPIE Oct 05 03:20:56 Oh Oct 05 03:20:59 theres an opie channel :P Oct 05 03:21:03 df00z: yes Oct 05 03:21:19 XorA: I can build it Oct 05 03:21:22 hrw|work: isnt 20050207 the reuqierd on for OZ/GPE? Oct 05 03:22:03 hrw|work: on my build,. the disable-apm patch isnt getting applied to the xserver crashes on suspend :-( Oct 05 03:22:08 XorA: 20050915 is my cvsdate - 20050207 is set as fixed iirc Oct 05 03:22:28 hrw|work: yeah its a fixed one Oct 05 03:23:09 NOTE: package xserver-kdrive-0.0cvs20050207-r3: task do_patch: started Oct 05 03:23:09 NOTE: Applying patch 'kmode.patch' Oct 05 03:23:09 NOTE: Applying patch 'fbdev-not-fix.patch' Oct 05 03:23:09 NOTE: package xserver-kdrive-0.0cvs20050207-r3: task do_patch: completed Oct 05 03:23:42 hrw|work: so broken for you as well, SRC_URI_appaend_c7x0 isnt working Oct 05 03:25:05 XorA: try SRC_URI_c7x0 += "file://umbaumba" Oct 05 03:25:21 hrw|work: has format changed? Oct 05 03:25:34 iirc dont Oct 05 03:26:53 hrw|work: that means that original SRC_URI gets wiped Oct 05 03:27:41 SRC_URI_append_c7x0 += works Oct 05 03:30:01 I suggest bitbake has suffered a regression Oct 05 03:35:45 oe has a target for wrt54g doesn't it? Oct 05 03:35:53 openwrt? Oct 05 03:36:17 anomaly: it has target but it is not openwrt Oct 05 03:36:33 ok Oct 05 03:36:33 anomaly: packages can be installed on openwrt powered device anyway Oct 05 03:36:40 nice Oct 05 03:36:53 just picked one up with corrupted flash for $5 and managed to get jtag working Oct 05 03:37:00 I use OE to build stuff for my wrt54gs with openwrt Oct 05 03:37:00 :D Oct 05 03:37:30 ~lart gtk and all from that family for fscked libtool Oct 05 03:37:31 * ibot says "boot to the head" and knocks gtk and all from that family over for fscked libtool Oct 05 03:37:37 | arm-linux-libtool: link: cannot find the library `/home/hrw/devel/build/0912/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/glib-2.0-2.6.4-r0/glib-2.6.4/glib/libglib-2.0.la' Oct 05 03:37:46 argh... my hdd is not made from rubber... Oct 05 03:38:16 indeed, that would make it a floppy disk Oct 05 03:38:45 why their libtool usage sucks so badly... Oct 05 03:40:15 What does gtk do that causes problems? Oct 05 03:40:22 with libtool, that is? Oct 05 03:41:46 MP0: build gtk, then clean tmp/work/, rebuild gtk Oct 05 03:42:04 heh. Oct 05 03:42:12 "doctor, it hurts when I poke myself in the eye" Oct 05 03:43:07 ;) Oct 05 03:43:17 I think I'm going to refrain from poking myself in the eye, or rebuilding gtk with a cleaned tmp/work/ Oct 05 03:43:25 good plan Oct 05 03:44:52 hrw|work: Found it. qte kernel/qwindowsystem_qws.cpp Oct 05 03:45:18 hrm maybe Oct 05 03:45:25 F34 F35 Oct 05 03:45:29 it looks hardcoded ;\ Oct 05 03:46:01 nothing's hardcoded when you have access to /dev/mem Oct 05 03:46:22 ... Oct 05 03:46:50 what are you suggesting i do GDB get some memory addys and write them directly? lol Oct 05 03:47:59 no, I'm suggesting you use some other known data structure as a landmakr and make a program to scan through /dev/mem looking for it. Of course, your landmark should be a constant offset from the memory addresses where F34 and F35 are defined Oct 05 03:48:27 I'm also joking. Oct 05 03:49:04 morning Oct 05 03:49:06 hi reenoo_ Oct 05 03:49:50 'lo Oct 05 03:58:38 hey pb_ Oct 05 03:58:41 hi MP0 Oct 05 04:12:00 wow, my Linux Kongress email got a great response Oct 05 04:13:07 as much respons as the email to CELF? Oct 05 04:14:15 nah, im getting lots of response from CELF Oct 05 04:21:18 which compiler/binutils version should i use for a native (arm) toolchain? Oct 05 04:22:01 seems i have problems with paths in the -csl versions that I got bitbaken Oct 05 04:22:16 !tonight Oct 05 04:22:17 mithro: Don't know, don't care Oct 05 04:22:29 opps wrong channel Oct 05 04:26:33 koobla: we disabled csl a while ago iirc Oct 05 04:29:50 ok Oct 05 04:30:10 need to update my prefs then Oct 05 04:30:33 perl already runs nicely :) Oct 05 04:44:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r20cbf9ea... 10/: packages/tilibs/: add support libs for TI graphing calculator apps Oct 05 04:46:59 hmm, I figured out why I get an old repository... Oct 05 04:47:25 monotone monotone gives this warning "warning: discarding revision data packet" Oct 05 04:47:52 and stops writing out revisions Oct 05 04:48:23 when I asked about that warning earlier, someone said it was harmless; the result of an old object no longer in the repository Oct 05 04:48:54 however, from what I can tell, it's harmful in the sense that it halts processing of further revisions until you do another monotone pull Oct 05 04:49:00 or at least that's my theory Oct 05 04:51:21 hrw|work: opie bt patch is in the branch now Oct 05 04:51:48 cool Oct 05 04:52:28 ~seen mickeyl Oct 05 04:52:33 mickeyl was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 1h 54m 24s ago, saying: '(keyword) :)'. Oct 05 04:53:05 mickey|bbl: we should release RC Oct 05 04:55:07 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8ebb9eff... 10/: packages/h2200-bootloader/h2200-bootloader.bb: add bootloader dumptool from .dev Oct 05 04:55:12 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6b11b50b... 10/: opie-image: add irda and BT tools - close #369 - 5bbecea445aa5ba2d5201fb1e67ad420b048bd26 from .dev Oct 05 05:10:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2511cf29... 10/: packages/familiar/familiar-version.bb: add script to generate /etc/familiar-version Oct 05 05:25:24 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf04e1a17... 10/: Add familiar-version.bb and ship it in familiar Oct 05 05:25:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3bc7b380... 10/: conf/distro/familiar.conf: BOOTSTRAP_(R)DEPEND on familiar-version Oct 05 06:03:19 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r37c18d83... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: ship h2200-bootloader Oct 05 06:03:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf455175a... 10/: packages/gtk+/: add gtk 2.8.6 + patches Oct 05 06:19:42 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r0b03454f... 10/: binconfig.bbclass: add new BINCONFIG_GLOB variable to allow passing a different glob to find Oct 05 06:19:46 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rc009bb7a... 10/: mysql: inherit binconfig and make use of new BINCONFIG_GLOB variable. should fix Bug #356 Oct 05 06:28:43 heh Oct 05 06:28:51 ~stab libsdl-qpe Oct 05 06:28:53 * ibot runs at libsdl-qpe with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Oct 05 06:29:08 what's wrong? Oct 05 06:30:02 qpe Oct 05 06:32:44 is there an easy way to get a libsdl that draws directly to the framebuffer in oe? Oct 05 06:33:07 doesn't the regular sdl support that? Oct 05 06:33:13 it should Oct 05 06:35:05 you set an env variable I beleive Oct 05 06:36:58 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf2149c94... 10/: Oct 05 06:36:58 Two changes to sourcepkg.class: Oct 05 06:36:58 - added "autom4te.cache" to default EXCLUDE_FROM to not have configure tests in resulted diff Oct 05 06:36:58 - changed order of tar arguments to get it working with GNU tar 1.15.1 Oct 05 06:43:02 hrw|work: could you attach that to #350? Oct 05 06:44:30 ok Oct 05 06:45:03 btw - that patch is in BT in other bug ;) Oct 05 06:46:03 sent Oct 05 07:26:44 morning Oct 05 07:26:58 hi chouimat Oct 05 07:31:44 ehm what does this mean: NOTE: build 200510051606: completed Oct 05 07:31:44 Build statistics: Oct 05 07:31:44 Attempted builds: 0 Oct 05 07:31:50 that it worked or not/ Oct 05 07:31:58 and where can I find the binary? Oct 05 07:32:15 it works and build nothing Oct 05 07:32:29 hrw|work: why building nothing? Oct 05 07:32:42 bitbake nano Oct 05 07:33:10 lucasvo: my glassball is broken so I cannot help without more info Oct 05 07:34:30 http://wservices.ch/~lucas/nano-output Oct 05 07:34:34 this is the output I get Oct 05 07:34:49 when I run bitbake nano Oct 05 07:34:54 nice machine.... Oct 05 07:35:17 I did exactly what's written on the guide of handhelds.org Oct 05 07:35:22 hrw|work: what nice machin? Oct 05 07:35:28 MACHINE = "pxa250" Oct 05 07:35:45 look into OE/conf/machine/ for correct entries Oct 05 07:38:18 hmmm Oct 05 07:38:36 who had the append trouble? Oct 05 07:38:40 lucasvo: you use org.openembedded.dev? Oct 05 07:38:42 koen: XorA Oct 05 07:39:02 hrw|work: yes Oct 05 07:39:05 I'm seeing the same with matchbox-panel_0.9.2.bb Oct 05 07:39:27 lucasvo: switch to org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch Oct 05 07:39:32 hrw|work: why? Oct 05 07:39:42 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r0ccca583... 10/: packages/gpe-ownerinfo/gpe-ownerinfo_0.27.bb: add .27 from .dev to fix a serious problem Oct 05 07:39:51 because that one is stable Oct 05 07:40:10 hrw|work: why shouldn't I use the unstable, I don't care about bugs Oct 05 07:40:14 lucasvo: .dev is unstable and have things which made misc things not working Oct 05 07:40:30 lucasvo: so why you care about that 'bitbake nano'? Oct 05 07:40:31 :) Oct 05 07:42:19 apart from the fact that you have to make changes proactively to build familiar on .dev.... Oct 05 07:42:37 all those bb.fatals might be there for a reason Oct 05 07:45:07 hrw|work: it was just to test, I want to compile gpe Oct 05 07:49:42 koen: what type of "append trouble" are you referring to? Oct 05 07:50:00 my h3900 has big icons in matchbox Oct 05 07:50:35 the .bb has EXTRA_OECONF_append_h3900 = " --enable-small-icons " Oct 05 07:50:59 Maybe those are the small icons... :) Oct 05 07:51:03 You should see the big ones! Oct 05 07:51:19 hmm. checked whether h3900 is in OVERRIDES? Oct 05 07:51:20 * CosmicPenguin crawls back under his rock Oct 05 07:51:41 reenoo_: MACHINE is always in overrides Oct 05 07:51:46 xora had trouble with SRC_URI_append_c7x0 = "file://disable-apm.patch;patch=1" Oct 05 07:51:55 I know it should be Oct 05 07:52:06 check whether it actually is Oct 05 07:52:20 is it append_ or _append? Oct 05 07:53:17 IIRC both works but doesn't do the same thing Oct 05 07:53:18 reenoo_: what's the fastest way to check that? Oct 05 07:53:33 koen: -c showdata Oct 05 07:55:00 OVERRIDES="task_do_showdata:kernel24:local:h3900:familiar:linux:arm:build-linux" Oct 05 07:55:40 EXTRA_OECONF="--enable-startup-notification --enable-dnotify --enable-small-icons" Oct 05 07:55:46 something strange is going on.... Oct 05 07:57:38 check whether that ends up in do_configure() (i.e. whether ./configure is called with those arguments). if it does pester mallum to fix it ;) Oct 05 08:45:05 halo Oct 05 08:45:27 do any of the non-Zauran OE platforms use bvdd video? Oct 05 08:48:13 no Oct 05 08:48:30 iirc bvdd is c1000/c3x00 related Oct 05 08:48:35 but I may be wrong Oct 05 08:49:57 it's a pxa270 thing. there are some ipaqs as well, but no one really uses this except kino Oct 05 08:50:19 hi mickeyl Oct 05 08:50:19 good morning, btw. Oct 05 08:51:05 question, does the -e flag to make propagate to sub-makes, and can it override places where variables are defined? Oct 05 08:51:32 mickeyl: can you build 3.5.4-rc somewhere? Oct 05 08:52:14 I'm trying to build at76c503 however it has a lot of Makefiles that explicitly define gcc. So far I've been trying to manually change all of them. Oct 05 08:54:03 MP0: unfortunately it's a bit hard to make makeflags propagating. I used to hack it like that: Oct 05 08:54:52 oe_runmake MAKE="${MAKE} ${EXTRA_OEMAKE} MAKE="${MAKE} ${EXTRA_OEMAKE}"" Oct 05 08:54:58 you'll find that in some bbs Oct 05 08:55:00 or similar Oct 05 08:55:03 pH5: I think I accidentally sabotaged hx4700 builds Oct 05 08:55:05 hrw|work: i try to Oct 05 08:55:12 pH5: by using the defconfig from cvs Oct 05 08:55:38 mickeyl: great Oct 05 08:58:59 Before all this, I never knew how important it is to make makefiles that are prepared for cross compiling. Oct 05 08:59:12 *nod* Oct 05 09:00:02 mickeyl, does -e override places where a Makefile explicitly sets a variable? ie, a lot of the makefiles seem to do CC = gcc Oct 05 09:00:10 oh wait... I just redefine gcc Oct 05 09:00:11 thanks! Oct 05 09:00:15 np Oct 05 09:00:31 I wouldn't have thought of that if you hadn't redefined make Oct 05 09:00:41 the only thing you can't override is when makefile contains 'override FOO = bar' Oct 05 09:00:51 recursive makefiles suck Oct 05 09:01:12 oh, so -e CC = arm-linux-gcc would override CC=gcc? Oct 05 09:02:13 CosmicPenguin, is there a better way to decouple build processes than recursive makefiles? Oct 05 09:03:18 That doesn't make them suck any less, though Oct 05 09:03:54 But as kergoth is fond of saying - we know how they suck Oct 05 09:03:56 and thats good Oct 05 09:04:45 MP0: yep Oct 05 09:05:11 mickeyl: and with 3.5.4 release I think that we can drop 3.5.1 totally and atleast images from 3.5.2 - what do you think? Oct 05 09:05:37 mickeyl: are you involved with kino? (or know who is?) Oct 05 09:05:38 hrw|work: sounds good to me. Oct 05 09:05:44 raduga: anton maslovsky Oct 05 09:05:51 aha. Oct 05 09:05:55 mr. cacko Oct 05 09:05:56 (of course!) Oct 05 09:06:14 i haven't had any caffeine yet today. I'm even less bright than usual. Oct 05 09:06:21 one of us tried to port if to Opie but gave up in disgust Oct 05 09:06:22 heh Oct 05 09:06:32 i guess the source code was a bit dirty ;) Oct 05 09:06:38 I'm trying to get bvdd/mplayer-atty working in OZ, on akita Oct 05 09:06:47 its so far... not :) Oct 05 09:07:07 mickeyl: 3.5.3 will be as kind of backup then. feed from 3.5.2 for those which does not upgrade even to 3.5.3 ;) Oct 05 09:07:39 mickeyl: that way we will have only 2 releases instalable (but will probably refuse to help with 3.5.3 ;) Oct 05 09:07:55 i baked the bits, but all I get is screen corruption at runtime. Oct 05 09:07:58 mickeyl: and one more thing - 16M devices maybe dont fit ;( Oct 05 09:08:30 hrw|work: even after dropping ipsec modules and openswan? Oct 05 09:09:07 mickeyl: will check it later - recent changes in opie-image/meta-opie added some stuff Oct 05 09:09:07 I guess we should temporarily copy handheld-common into collie.conf and reduce it for this release Oct 05 09:09:17 until we have the more fine granular task based confs Oct 05 09:09:40 yep Oct 05 09:09:40 s/confs/feature selection/ Oct 05 09:12:59 mickeyl: who will do conf/machine/ cleanup? Oct 05 09:13:06 Richard Oct 05 09:13:16 ok Oct 05 09:13:56 mickeyl: maybe we will drop old c7x0 configs? corgi/husky/etc? Oct 05 09:14:03 yes Oct 05 09:14:07 we can do that in .dev Oct 05 09:14:27 time to remove a bit of legacy stuff Oct 05 09:14:31 ;) Oct 05 09:15:29 pb_: yt? Oct 05 09:19:17 ok. I go home Oct 05 09:19:20 cu Oct 05 09:19:36 cu Oct 05 09:19:55 time to do some cleanup... wifey's coming back from vacation... : Oct 05 09:20:03 ;) Oct 05 09:30:30 hi all, Oct 05 09:58:11 monotone.vanille.de needs a kick Oct 05 09:59:11 * koen kicks Oct 05 09:59:17 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r58122fd5... 10/: packages/gpe-themes/gpe-theme-industrial_0.2.bb: add 0.2 from .dev which got lost somehow Oct 05 10:23:27 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * ra69b3c5d... 10/: Oct 05 10:23:27 dosbox was broken because the OE libsdl is configured without cdrom support. Oct 05 10:23:27 patched dosbox to remove cdrom support. Oct 05 10:23:27 upgraded it to version 0.63. Oct 05 10:23:31 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * r90409dcd... 10/: aliens doesn't need/use SDL (pure qpe game) Oct 05 10:23:35 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * raa89decd... 10/: simpad fstab was missing a /dev/hda1 entry for CF Oct 05 10:25:08 I've a problem with suspend (on/off key) on Simpad, can someone help me? Oct 05 10:25:56 read the topic Oct 05 10:26:11 which one is the familiar 8.3 feed on monotone? Oct 05 10:26:59 lucasvo: org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Oct 05 10:27:08 thanks Oct 05 10:28:05 pH5: I think the hh3 kernel .bb need a seperate section for ipaq-pxa270 Oct 05 10:31:09 koen: ok, i'll look at this Oct 05 10:32:02 koen: do you have any cycles to try out that minimo patch this week? Oct 05 10:32:56 dougt: sure Oct 05 10:33:51 dougt: thanks for your minimo work. I never thought it would be possible to fit the lizard on a pda Oct 05 10:36:47 page 10 of http://www.enseirb.fr/~kadionik/rmll2004/presentation/philip_blundell.pdf Oct 05 10:37:05 that was about getting it smaller as 20MB Oct 05 10:49:10 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r047afcd6... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: ship sound modules Oct 05 10:49:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rda785859... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: include sound modules Oct 05 10:52:23 What pointers are best for somebody looking to use OE to build on a new platform? Well one that has a booting kernel and u-boot, abit a crappy one? Not found a great deal of info outside the Familiar/OZ arena Oct 05 10:55:31 koen: what exactly is the problem with 2.6.13-hh3 and hx4700? Oct 05 10:55:55 I think it uses a pxa25x defconfig from hh.org cvs Oct 05 10:56:03 if there isn't any problem, that's fine too :) Oct 05 10:57:02 koen: it looked alright to me, but i'm building atm to be sure. Oct 05 11:03:17 * koen stabs 'database is locked' Oct 05 11:03:58 DJWillis, what platform? Oct 05 11:05:50 Crofton: MagicEyes MMSP2 SoC. Oct 05 11:06:13 I did some work on the OMAP OSK board Oct 05 11:06:34 look at the machine files, that would be a good starting place Oct 05 11:07:50 Cool, I did wonder if there was a check-list anywhere, looking to move some of the kernel code to an sf.net project and I really like OE from using it to build Linux for my iPaq/Zaurus. Oct 05 11:13:55 I don't think so. Oct 05 11:14:40 hi Oct 05 11:15:01 Thanks for the pointers, digging in was going to be my 1st idea but I figured I should check 1st ;-) Oct 05 11:16:23 DJWillis: try to get your kernel into OE first Oct 05 11:16:39 everything after that is pretty straightforward Oct 05 11:16:42 :-) Oct 05 11:17:54 bluez initscript lack restart action Oct 05 11:19:28 lot of our scripts do Oct 05 11:19:32 very annoying Oct 05 11:19:37 but it saves bytes! Oct 05 11:19:40 *cough* Oct 05 11:19:56 especially when upgrading bluez use restart :) Oct 05 11:21:12 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r9cd824ba... 10/: Oct 05 11:21:12 ixp4xx,ixp4225-eth: provide virtual/ixp-eth Oct 05 11:21:12 Also on ixp4xx/ixp4xx-csr_2.0.bb (only) the ixp400.ko driver is now Oct 05 11:21:12 installed in kernel/drivers, not drivers. On all versions ixp-eth Oct 05 11:21:12 now RDEPENDS on ixp4xx (this should happen automatically but probably Oct 05 11:21:13 doesn't because the modules are done as independent module builds). Oct 05 11:21:16 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r5a46e7a3... 10/: Oct 05 11:21:17 nslu2-kernel: postprocess the kernel image to set mach-type, support le Oct 05 11:21:19 The mach-type is now set by instructions appended to the kernel image, Oct 05 11:21:21 in 2.6.14 kernels the mach-type patch has been removed. le support is Oct 05 11:21:23 added by adding the appropriate switch-to-le instructions too (LE support Oct 05 11:21:25 is incomplete because the flash read patch is not in.) Oct 05 11:21:27 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r47645189... 10/: (log message trimmed) Oct 05 11:21:29 openslug-init(modprobe.conf),nslu2.conf: generate the correct ixp-eth alias, support le Oct 05 11:21:31 modprobe.conf is now machine generated to use the PROVIDER of virtual/ixp-eth Oct 05 11:21:33 in place of a hard code module name - PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/ixp-eth must Oct 05 11:21:35 be specified to make this work, the configuration files have been updated Oct 05 11:21:37 appropriate. openslug-image now pulls in virtual/ixp-eth, not a specific Oct 05 11:21:39 provider and uses the PREFERRED_PROVIDER of that module as the RDEPENDS. Oct 05 11:22:41 so slug can be little endian now? Oct 05 11:27:22 hrw|gone: yeah but ethernet doesn't work on LE Oct 05 11:27:36 re Oct 05 11:28:15 hrw|husky: ah but ethernet doesn't work on LE Oct 05 11:28:40 LE was only usefull for debian Oct 05 11:28:44 nothing is perfect Oct 05 11:28:51 but with debonaras around Oct 05 11:29:44 Hrw|husky: aren't nmap and kismet in the OZ feeds? Oct 05 11:29:46 I think they're managing to get eth working LE now Oct 05 11:29:58 i want portraut pda.... with keyboard... Oct 05 11:30:01 there seems to be some issues with the flash in le though... Oct 05 11:30:14 koen: iirc shiuld be Oct 05 11:30:19 Hrw|husky: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14435&hl= Oct 05 11:31:19 koen irongeek post? Oct 05 11:31:22 yes Oct 05 11:31:41 i saw that Oct 05 11:31:52 I added kismet 2005-08 yesterday Oct 05 11:32:04 hmm.. i will start irssi in terminal Oct 05 11:34:08 hi Oct 05 11:34:13 hi Oct 05 11:34:21 irssi in terminal is better then gaim or opieirc Oct 05 11:36:02 hi Bilbolodz Oct 05 11:36:56 After soldering JTAG my Simpad is back online ;-) Oct 05 11:37:32 good Oct 05 11:39:13 Bilbolodz: linux+ 10/2005 has article about OE Oct 05 11:39:53 koen: ERROR: Nothing provides ipkg-linkh2200-bootloader Oct 05 11:39:53 ERROR: dependency ipkg-linkh2200-bootloader (for task-bootstrap) not satisfied Oct 05 11:39:58 missing space somewhere? Oct 05 11:40:40 koen: also, did you really mean to say BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDn (note the trailing 'n')? Oct 05 11:40:43 in h2200.conf Oct 05 11:40:44 loooks like Oct 05 11:40:49 hmmm Oct 05 11:41:00 do EXTRA_DEPENDS need a preceding space? Oct 05 11:41:00 I should merge to center, right? Oct 05 11:41:10 that's what mt tells me Oct 05 11:41:26 koen: right Oct 05 11:41:42 mreimer: i think the appends need the space in front Oct 05 11:42:16 yes append need, += does not Oct 05 11:42:51 it's the BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS_append line in h2200.conf Oct 05 11:43:31 fixed Oct 05 11:43:38 thanks koen Oct 05 11:45:04 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rcaa7a870... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: add some spaces in _append lines Oct 05 11:48:55 2840 recipes... soon 3K Oct 05 11:49:11 someone tried world recently? Oct 05 11:49:13 I remember when we had <800 Oct 05 11:49:18 I did Oct 05 11:49:28 after a day the box OOMed Oct 05 11:49:35 i remember when bootstrap was unusable Oct 05 11:49:40 OOMed with 2GB of ram.... Oct 05 11:49:58 on which package? Oct 05 11:50:05 no idea Oct 05 11:50:26 giac was main mem hog Oct 05 11:50:33 iirc Oct 05 11:50:34 giac also doesn't build Oct 05 11:50:48 I OOMed my server today with giac Oct 05 11:51:00 o fsck Oct 05 11:51:06 well more like a resource starvation Oct 05 11:51:23 -j4 with giac is a bad idea Oct 05 11:51:27 hi hyo :/ Oct 05 11:51:45 rebuilding opie-image for colllie... Oct 05 11:52:13 does anyone here do anything with video on zaurus Cxk? bvdd or anything like? Oct 05 11:52:32 I will try to reach maslovsky :/ Oct 05 11:53:31 i guess, if none here do, you find the existing framebuffer support "sufficient' for your needs, on your platforms? Oct 05 11:53:41 wifi card is good place to put stylus on :) Oct 05 11:53:57 hrw: a buffalo one? Oct 05 11:54:08 koen: dlink dcf660w Oct 05 11:54:31 I have a http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/accessories/images/airstation.jpg Oct 05 11:54:40 with a nice stylus hole :) Oct 05 11:54:57 Hmmm, is there anybody in here I could chat to about building an ARM-LINUX cross compiler using glibc that is ALL staticly linked, I know it's OT so please don't shoot me ;-) Oct 05 11:54:57 raduga: on c7x0 it is progressing but mplayer has w100 patch for vidix Oct 05 11:55:12 koen: no c&p here... Oct 05 11:55:42 hrw: thanks :) Oct 05 11:55:46 DJWillis: you have too much diskspace to waste? Oct 05 11:55:59 np raduga Oct 05 11:56:07 mplayer with w100 is "good enough" for me, on C7x0/8x0 :) Oct 05 11:56:33 raduga: i have 2 zauruses - 5500 and 760 Oct 05 11:56:45 first one is testing machine mostly Oct 05 11:56:54 and w100 is surely better than native fb on 5500 Oct 05 11:57:00 hrw: Yes, and the platform in question is not going to play nicely with shared libs unless I stick with GCC 2.95 and gLibC's from the dawn of time ;-) Oct 05 11:57:32 <[cc]smart> hrw: could you try the change of IO schedulers anticipatory and fair queueing to modules for zaurus kernel Oct 05 11:57:33 oh. Oct 05 11:57:56 <[cc]smart> RP_ wanted to do it but seems he doesnt find the right time Oct 05 11:58:15 joshua_: is bluetooth still not working for you? Oct 05 11:58:23 [cc]smart: if i wont forget... Oct 05 11:58:28 <[cc]smart> i already did it a while ago but had to revert since i wasn't able to perform a test Oct 05 11:58:57 djwillis: for some reason, I'm reminded of the opening scene in _2001_ with australopithecines throwing bones at a monolithic alien Zaurus Oct 05 12:00:17 raduga: :-) - This is not for a Zaurus, think poorly documented Korean platform with half-arsed Linux kernel on it Oct 05 12:00:24 <[cc]smart> hrw: should be as simple as changing CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS and CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ to m Oct 05 12:00:33 what's it called? Oct 05 12:00:47 [cc]smart: ok but now i cannot do this Oct 05 12:01:01 <[cc]smart> np Oct 05 12:02:12 <[cc]smart> if it has the chance to gi into next release life is good enough :) Oct 05 12:02:23 <[cc]smart> s/gi/go/ Oct 05 12:03:09 first we need RC... Oct 05 12:03:10 <[cc]smart> thx in any case Oct 05 12:03:17 <[cc]smart> RC ? Oct 05 12:03:21 <[cc]smart> release candidate ? Oct 05 12:03:26 yes Oct 05 12:03:40 fam 083 has snapshots available Oct 05 12:03:46 <[cc]smart> so theres one in sight already ? Oct 05 12:04:20 more eyes make shallow bugs Oct 05 12:04:26 koen: next update for 350 comming... Oct 05 12:04:32 ok Oct 05 12:05:24 [cc]smart: oz354 and fam083 are frozen Oct 05 12:06:43 <[cc]smart> argh Oct 05 12:07:07 <[cc]smart> since about when ? Oct 05 12:07:31 raduga: well it's based on a subset of the MagicEyes MMSP2 Personal Media Player design (http://www.mesdigital.com/english/Products/product_development.asp), I have dev hardware but the kernel is dire and the toolchain even worse :-o. Oct 05 12:08:01 [cc]smart: 27-9 Oct 05 12:08:45 <[cc]smart> hmpf. could easily have been in that if only... Oct 05 12:16:54 koen|tv: I just made my first oe commit, to xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb. let me know if I've messed anything up Oct 05 12:17:36 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rabb4ac4d... 10/: meta-opie: added opie-alarm to DEPENDS Oct 05 12:18:30 koen|tv: this one will be nexxxt - ill addddd it tomorrow Oct 05 12:19:59 ok Oct 05 12:20:28 mreimer: to which branch? Oct 05 12:20:30 its blocker for opie-image now Oct 05 12:20:36 koen|tv: oz354fam083 Oct 05 12:20:56 koen|tv: just added a SRC_URI_append_h2200 to pull in the disable-apm patch Oct 05 12:20:57 mreimer: ah, could you not do that next time? Oct 05 12:21:07 koen|tv: oh, sorry, yes Oct 05 12:21:21 ne touche pas Oct 05 12:21:26 ok :) Oct 05 12:21:33 mreimer: oz354fam083 is updated via bug #350 only Oct 05 12:21:34 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350 Oct 05 12:22:02 ok. so I should put it in .dev, and mention it in bug 350, right? Oct 05 12:22:20 push to dev, add patch to #350 Oct 05 12:23:32 and koen will push it in free time Oct 05 12:23:37 gotcha Oct 05 12:24:28 mreimer: did you do a monotone push? Oct 05 12:24:34 koen|tv: no Oct 05 12:24:39 * mreimer checks phrasebook Oct 05 12:25:21 mt pull, merge, update then commit then push or sync Oct 05 12:25:30 not sync Oct 05 12:26:00 so i have to check manual too... always used sync Oct 05 12:26:05 sync pushes all sorts of crap you don't want in the main repo Oct 05 12:26:16 ah. Oct 05 12:26:27 that's how the .zecke and .koen branches end up in vanille.de Oct 05 12:29:55 ok Oct 05 12:33:47 cu Oct 05 13:15:06 koen|tv: I can't push: "monotone: read from fd 4 (peer vanille.de) failed, disconnecting". maybe mickeyl hasn't approved my key? Oct 05 13:15:44 I guess Oct 05 13:15:51 try pushing to ewi546 Oct 05 13:16:07 my guess is that vanille is down :P Oct 05 13:16:13 oh, no it wasn't Oct 05 13:16:18 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rdcae9da2... 10/: openslug-packages: add minicom to openslug feed Oct 05 13:17:18 koen|tv: "closed OK after goodbye". does that mean it was successful? Oct 05 13:17:29 I guess Oct 05 13:17:31 certs out = 0, revs out = 0 Oct 05 13:17:50 I'd have expected one rev going out Oct 05 13:18:04 monotone push Oct 05 13:18:08 ah Oct 05 13:18:38 ok one rev out Oct 05 13:31:11 mreimer: your commit doesn't show up anywhere Oct 05 13:31:52 koen|tv: here's what I typed: Oct 05 13:32:01 koen: monotone --db=/opt/oe/oe.db --branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 commit --message "Use the disable-apm patch for h2200" xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb Oct 05 13:32:09 monotone pull Oct 05 13:32:26 monotone merge (misuse message about already being merged) Oct 05 13:32:38 monotone push ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Oct 05 13:36:31 that should have worked Oct 05 13:44:33 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r67f3e3ca... 10/: packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb: add apm-hack to h2200 Oct 05 13:45:12 thanks koen Oct 05 13:47:56 Hi, is there a oe.db snapshot that contains org.openembedded.oz354fam083 ? Oct 05 13:48:53 no Oct 05 13:50:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r71eb9b41... 10/: packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb: add apm-hack to h2200 Oct 05 13:52:30 koen: Can you check does is this branch still using blueprobe_0.15bb. I made h6300 patch for that but I was using dev branch for making it. I have not yet submitted it to bugzilla. Oct 05 13:53:30 it still uses 0.15 Oct 05 13:56:18 Ok, I will then now submit a patch. Could you then commit it both to the dev and 0.8.3 branch? Oct 05 13:56:42 yes Oct 05 13:57:13 Thanks, btw, in addition to bluetooth, we are now able to communicate with the gsm/gprs module :-) Oct 05 13:57:24 nice Oct 05 13:57:40 have you talked to the blueangel people? Oct 05 13:58:04 lamikr: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20670&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=125 Oct 05 13:58:11 they are working on gsm too Oct 05 13:58:23 maybe you work together on the serial muxer Oct 05 13:59:56 No I haven't yet but I have heard some news from their implementation. What I have understood they are not able to use serial port for communication, instead they use something else known as DPRAM Oct 05 14:00:08 We use /dev/ttyS1. Oct 05 14:02:12 But actually one of us also started writing socket based multiplexer so that we could handle both the gsm and gprs data simultaneously. I am not the one implementing it, but the plan is that apps (gpe-phone for ex) could use local data and command sockets for commanding the module... Oct 05 14:02:42 I will try to contact the blueangel people, but not today. Oct 05 14:03:06 lamikr: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xanadux/gomunicator/ Oct 05 14:03:15 or bitbake gomunicator :) Oct 05 14:04:50 koen: Is this phone apps and does it have real homepage? Oct 05 14:05:20 news: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-05-2005/0004160573&EDATE= Oct 05 14:05:35 lamikr: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator Oct 05 14:05:58 heh Oct 05 14:05:59 nice Oct 05 14:06:19 mallum has really made good Oct 05 14:06:47 "OpenedHand develops open source software as well as Oct 05 14:06:47 contributing to numerous free software communities including X.org, Oct 05 14:06:48 Freedesktop.org, the Linux kernel, OpenEmbedded, GNOME, GTK and GPE." Oct 05 14:08:46 nice Oct 05 14:09:43 'night all Oct 05 14:09:50 Nice news, unfortunately the wiki is down, but google cache helped. Do you know is this gomunicator currently actively developed, I could do something for it? Oct 05 14:10:48 ehm how many "revs" are there in monotone pull org.openembedded.oz354fam083 ? Oct 05 14:14:51 ugh. i guess i'm unclear on the concept. Oct 05 14:15:04 in OZ where is /dev populated from? Oct 05 14:15:31 oh. #openzaurus is not-so-idle. I'll ask them ;) Oct 05 15:20:44 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7996 Oct 05 15:25:17 -ofun :-) Oct 05 15:27:28 :) Oct 05 15:34:55 hey Oct 05 15:34:58 Hi collin! Oct 05 15:35:01 he Oct 05 15:35:05 hehe Oct 05 15:35:13 and hey zecke Oct 05 16:13:15 'night all Oct 05 16:27:29 mickeyl: monotone.vanille.de is timing out on connect Oct 05 16:27:35 let me check Oct 05 16:27:45 or at least it does nothing for a very long time Oct 05 16:27:50 ewi worked fine for me Oct 05 16:27:54 try again Oct 05 16:28:08 yep, thanks Oct 05 16:28:26 np. the server could need a bit more robustness, but I'm not in the mood to patch monotone ;) Oct 05 16:28:32 hehe Oct 05 16:28:48 besides... i recently looked out for possible alternatives Oct 05 16:29:01 I just fixed some nastiness I just encountered with system headers and efl when on an x86_64 host Oct 05 16:29:07 ah, find anything Oct 05 16:29:07 ? Oct 05 16:29:21 mercurial looks pretty interesting nowadays. we might reconsider our SCM if they come out with 1.0 in a few months Oct 05 16:29:25 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r45e2ce62... 10/: Oct 05 16:29:25 efl, e-wm: add a quick sed fix for e builds using system include paths Oct 05 16:29:25 - This is not likely to affect anyone except 64-bit linux users who have multiple files files Oct 05 16:29:25 -- This definately affects Gentoo linux on amd64. It has a stub header which Oct 05 16:29:25 includes a 386 or x86_64 depending on defines. However, since OE normally Oct 05 16:29:26 compiles for non-x86 this header actually includes nothing and stops the compile Oct 05 16:29:28 altogether due to missing typedefs and prototypes. Oct 05 16:29:35 ah cool Oct 05 16:30:15 I suppose they should be *patched* to not -I/usr/include, but this was just easier for now to get it working Oct 05 16:30:42 yeah. we may can convince them eventually just not to rely on -I$(incdir) Oct 05 16:31:10 like many upstream authors they don't really have that much clue about cross compiling Oct 05 16:31:24 which is perfectly ok Oct 05 16:31:30 as long as they accept patches Oct 05 16:33:32 well I don't have much clue how auto-foo and friends work myself as well...I know bits and pieces but it's still mostlya black box Oct 05 16:52:06 btw, the familiar-0.8.3 is now in its own branch at monotone. it is using org.openembedded.oz354fam083 instead of org.openembedded.dev Oct 05 16:52:31 sorry, wrong list :-) Oct 05 16:52:52 heh. thanks for letting us know :D Oct 05 16:53:25 yes, time to go bed, its 3 am in here :-( Oct 05 18:54:16 I got my kernel to compile with OE... (it's an x86 so it was simple) where now? Oct 05 18:58:44 * myopiate needs somebody to hold his hand Oct 05 19:10:07 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8a27bb4a... 10/: Oct 05 19:10:07 zd1211: Fix compilation issues on kernels >=2.6.13 Oct 05 19:10:07 Add iwconfig rate patch Oct 05 19:10:07 remove old cvs version that won't compile Oct 05 19:26:06 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r14084e59... 10/: wireless-tools: upstream upgrade Oct 05 19:27:29 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r0d6d444e... 10/: disapproval of revision 14084e597849b9709e28642a12a9831f90df4d73 Oct 05 19:27:33 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r3caeeb67... 10/: openslug-packages: re-add zd1211 to feed Oct 05 20:00:29 myopiate: look in meta/ Oct 05 20:03:29 heya JustinP Oct 05 20:09:03 emte: yo Oct 05 20:21:10 * france is back (gone 23:03:20) Oct 05 20:23:10 thanks justin Oct 05 21:37:02 is ipkg-0.99 meant to take this long to compile? I think it's killed my bitbake. Oct 05 21:53:59 PREFERRED_VERSION_ipkg = an older one fixed it Oct 05 21:54:15 i think Oct 05 23:21:43 monotone.vanille.de not working again Oct 06 00:00:59 good morning all Oct 06 00:02:24 hi Oct 06 00:04:15 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r7667a7d0... 10/: ucslugc: fix endinaness of le jffs2, add glibc to packages Oct 06 00:04:19 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r7d8499b4... 10/: nslu2-kernel: changes for a working LE build Oct 06 00:43:38 morning Oct 06 00:47:54 hey XorA Oct 06 00:49:01 * Geo_KM is away: Away at the moment Oct 06 00:49:23 koen: Isee you added apm hack to another platform, but I am finding SRC_URI_append_machine = blah is not working here :-( Oct 06 00:50:07 I encountered another _append weirdness yesterday Oct 06 00:50:35 koen: append_machine += blah works though, I was wondering if it is just me or a regression in bb Oct 06 01:00:50 I get http://pastebin.com/384748 Oct 06 01:13:08 koen: same as me, the _append isnt working Oct 06 01:13:49 hi Oct 06 01:15:03 is QThread a better idea? then the NPTL in Z? Oct 06 01:46:51 hi people Oct 06 01:47:46 just one quick question: should I use the org.openembedded.dev or the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 tree to build my images? Oct 06 01:49:36 depends on which distro etc you wish to make an image Oct 06 01:50:53 familiar 0.8.3 for the ipaq 1940 (testing), so I'd like to have the best (newest) possible versions of everything Oct 06 01:51:19 when trying to build with .dev, it complains the familiar-0.8.3.conf file is unmaintained Oct 06 01:51:42 oz354fam083 is the stable branch , and therefore most likely to work Oct 06 01:52:48 thanks. and if I want to build unstable, can I just copy familiar-0.8.3.conf from oz354fam083 to dev? Oct 06 01:57:05 i dont have the oz354fam083 branch so i can not say that the conf file will do much for you if you move it to the .dev branch, i would have thought that the conf file has fix version packages Oct 06 01:59:16 hi Oct 06 02:00:03 morning hrw Oct 06 02:01:11 hi ade Oct 06 02:01:36 ooooh thats not nice, updated debian removes xserver-xfree86, but didn't put xserver-xorg in its place, was left without an xserver ... hmm thats not a good thing to happen Oct 06 02:01:52 report bug then Oct 06 02:03:02 hrw: nah , i'll search to see if anyone else has done so first :) Oct 06 02:08:07 heh.. routing to hh.org is nicely fscked Oct 06 02:11:00 heh... how to make good scap... Oct 06 02:12:50 Can anybody recomend a good chan to lurk in regarding building GCC for ARM? Oct 06 02:15:11 hrw: hi Oct 06 02:15:37 hi luzik Oct 06 02:16:29 hrw: can you build mplayer ? Oct 06 02:17:03 last time when I tried I was able Oct 06 02:17:20 hrw: i have some gcc issue :/ Oct 06 02:17:27 hrw: can you try now? Oct 06 02:19:13 ok Oct 06 02:21:45 XorA: I solved the issue Oct 06 02:22:01 XorA: _append needs a space Oct 06 02:22:31 file://fbdev-not-fix.patch;patch=1file://disable-apm.patch;patch=1 gets treated as one patch Oct 06 02:22:34 koen: is it possible to make good scap from c7x0? eah time I try I get fscked one Oct 06 02:22:54 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3935.png for example Oct 06 02:22:58 koen: ah, then we can fix and close bug #374 Oct 06 02:23:00 I seem to be able to use scap on my corgi Oct 06 02:23:24 otherwise you can use fbgrab and send taht to scap with machine=PNG Oct 06 02:25:08 with fbgrab I can - but why not with scap.. heh Oct 06 02:26:41 koen: gpe support icon themes? Oct 06 02:26:49 yes Oct 06 02:27:21 we only ship two: the deafult and industrial Oct 06 02:27:36 koen: ahah that fixes it Oct 06 02:27:46 I changed icons on my opiefied zaurus Oct 06 02:28:13 luzik: NOTE: package mplayer-1.0pre7-r1: task do_build: completed Oct 06 02:29:01 hrw: you can drop them in ~/.gtk/ or /usr/share/themes//gtk-2.0/ Oct 06 02:29:22 koen: ok - I was just curious about support Oct 06 02:29:30 no plans to move to gpe Oct 06 02:29:55 hrw: hang your head in shame ;) Oct 06 02:30:11 gpe doesn't use kindergartened toolkits like qpe :P Oct 06 02:30:31 so what? Oct 06 02:30:52 so if gtk supports icon-themes gpe supports it Oct 06 02:33:14 monotone: 10010 | 34 | 2585 Oct 06 02:34:41 over 10k certs in org.openembedded.{dev,oz354fam083} on vanille Oct 06 02:35:00 nice Oct 06 02:37:31 heh Oct 06 02:37:40 I reread rday's email Oct 06 02:37:52 vanillA.de Oct 06 02:38:15 no wonder he can't get any updates :) Oct 06 02:38:30 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf678fbbb... 10/: packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb: _append needs a space and our patcher is too powerfull ;) Oct 06 02:38:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf191dec7... 10/: packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb: _append needs a space and our patcher is too powerfull ;) Oct 06 02:40:39 ok. time to eat something and watch 'transporter 2' movie Oct 06 02:40:50 I'm uun-officially sick Oct 06 02:40:56 hrw: is your opie-alarm fix in #250? Oct 06 02:41:02 ehm #350 Oct 06 02:42:20 thx for remind Oct 06 02:44:54 koen: its in Oct 06 02:45:52 when I look at comments it looks like 3 people take care of 350 ;) Oct 06 02:51:05 yay! Oct 06 02:51:23 #350 has no outstanding patches anymore Oct 06 02:52:03 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r392a0089... 10/: sourcepkg.bbclass fixes - rev f2149c94e80d0d08f2b3437c7ce46dbd3cefe4fe from .dev Oct 06 02:52:08 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rdb0d3aff... 10/: fix SDL-* to use binconfig from .dev, probably needs the proposed libtool fix Oct 06 02:52:11 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4206c67b... 10/: udev mount --move fix d712046f2f575328b5615fe08732bb3c569f232e from .dev Oct 06 02:52:16 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1a3cd2d3... 10/: A patch for efl and e-wm to fix x86_64 host compile errors due to "interesting" system headers from .dev Oct 06 02:52:20 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r0b603a0d... 10/: opie-alarm fix for opie-image - rev abb4ac4d99500dd9fcf6c133d3075c483c01868d from .dev Oct 06 02:52:30 nice **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 06 02:59:56 2005