**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 17 02:59:56 2005 Oct 17 03:18:49 ~monday Oct 17 03:18:51 hmm... monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix Oct 17 03:19:26 ~morning Oct 17 03:19:28 Good morning! Oct 17 03:28:16 morning Oct 17 03:29:16 hi Oct 17 03:32:46 hi zecke Oct 17 03:32:57 * zecke 's term started Oct 17 03:36:33 * Twiun comforts zecke Oct 17 04:01:40 heh.. debian mc 4.6.1 handle ipk as tarballs.. Oct 17 04:54:06 #350 Oct 17 04:54:39 hmmm, bugzilla integration in my irc client doesn't work yet Oct 17 04:54:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb7f6ccdd... 10/: libgpewidget: update PV in the cvs .bb Oct 17 06:23:38 ~kill cvs Oct 17 06:23:40 * ibot shoots a charged anti-electron gun at cvs Oct 17 06:44:30 hi guys Oct 17 06:45:59 hi Bernardo Oct 17 06:48:58 hi hrw|work Oct 17 07:26:41 * Bernardo is getting more pissed with libtool every day that passes... :( Oct 17 08:06:09 cu Oct 17 09:03:06 Has anyone successfully used gcc3.4.4 built from OE for an OZ 3.5.4 collie target. I'm having troubles with it (actually ld) and am geting the following error: "/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find /lib/libc.so.6 inside /usr/bin/../../usr" libc is in the right spot and the build seems good. Oct 17 09:26:19 .... why is new run.compile file ...export BUILD_CXX="ccache g++" Oct 17 09:26:39 .......it was fine before I update my db :) anything I should know Oct 17 09:30:03 AvengerMoJo: sorry? Oct 17 09:30:25 zecke: well...I have been using this bb file I make for my project Oct 17 09:30:31 it was working .. Oct 17 09:30:51 but I think after I update db and package yesterday ...the build having problem.. Oct 17 09:31:01 It started to use native compiler Oct 17 09:31:05 not arm Oct 17 09:32:59 zecke: any idea? Oct 17 09:33:30 why does it start putting native gcc instead arm-linux-gcc in the BUILD_C Oct 17 09:35:43 your not invoking the correct enviroment i'd think Oct 17 10:00:41 ...emte what do you mean? Oct 17 10:01:19 well BitBake wont use the host compiler unless your inheriting the wrong enviroment **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 05:18:59 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 05:31:02 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 05:32:10 2005 Oct 18 06:10:04 hi Oct 18 06:10:15 hey zecke Oct 18 06:11:33 hi zecke Oct 18 06:20:27 zecke: if I do Config cfg("Konsole"); and then want to read from other config file I have to create another instance of Config class? it looks like there is no method to change config file Oct 18 06:20:54 hrw|work: right Oct 18 06:20:57 ok Oct 18 06:24:05 zecke: looks like I have another opie fix Oct 18 06:24:24 zecke: http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1647 Oct 18 06:25:35 ljp: hey how is the US? Oct 18 06:26:04 zecke: does http://pastebin.ca/25839 looks ok to you? Oct 18 06:26:09 hrw|work: where is the patch? Oct 18 06:26:09 ah Oct 18 06:26:37 hm.. currently errored Oct 18 06:26:52 a.. I see problem now Oct 18 06:27:20 bad magic numbers... Oct 18 06:28:09 ther overrides looks correct though Oct 18 06:28:23 heh.. C++ req "default:" be as last part in switch() Oct 18 06:28:44 zecke: not quite - I have fixed version now Oct 18 06:29:09 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/25840 Oct 18 06:29:49 a bit uglier but more proper way Oct 18 06:30:22 hrw|work: could we use SCRNONE, SCRRIGHT instead of -1, 0, 2? Oct 18 06:31:13 0/1/2 Oct 18 06:31:44 I used -1 as it is not correct setting which wont happen in normal config (not user edited) Oct 18 06:32:41 apply Oct 18 06:33:03 http://pastebin.ca/25842 Oct 18 06:33:08 will do **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 06:34:10 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 06:36:14 2005 Oct 18 06:37:48 Ciao all **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 06:38:32 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 06:48:13 2005 Oct 18 06:50:08 zecke: commited Oct 18 06:50:19 now time to add that as backport to OE Oct 18 06:50:33 hey Pigi Oct 18 06:51:54 hrw|work: did you see this already: http://212.10.30.205/index.php?mid=25 ? Oct 18 06:52:08 no Oct 18 06:52:21 'userfriendly' Oct 18 06:52:21 maybe once saw that on pdaxrom.org faq Oct 18 06:52:30 'polished' Oct 18 06:52:34 * koen coughs Oct 18 06:52:38 hi koen Oct 18 06:52:42 How can I connect to the Zaurus via USB? Oct 18 06:52:42 A: Oct 18 06:52:43 Install openssh package and connect to Zaurus with ssh client as root: root@192.168.129.201 - Of course, you must have installed USB network drivers on your PC. Oct 18 06:52:48 great info... Oct 18 06:53:21 Q:how to use screwdriver? A:you need to talk with friend Oct 18 06:53:51 hrw|work: A: down it in one Oct 18 06:54:01 did someone noticed that orinoco 0.15 don't compile ? Oct 18 06:54:04 heh Oct 18 06:54:04 koen: I cant even laugh... Oct 18 06:54:20 XorA: the *other* kind of screwdriver ;) Oct 18 06:54:44 koen: prepare for another opie cvs backport.. Oct 18 06:54:52 koen: theres another kind, wow! Oct 18 07:03:55 "mt log --last 1 --diffs" rules Oct 18 07:05:34 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5e3c9065... 10/: Oct 18 07:05:34 opie-console 1.2.1: CVS backported patch for OPIE bug #1647 Oct 18 07:05:34 - Opie-console doesn't respect scroll-bar on left side. Oct 18 07:43:52 Does anyone know of an arm emulator for testing or do you guys just do everything off your zaurus? Oct 18 07:45:46 Hunter555: it depends Oct 18 07:46:11 On what hardware I'm trying to emulate? Oct 18 07:46:12 Hunter555: for opie development I use desktop but for lowlevel stuff I use Z Oct 18 07:46:37 The opie stuff is just a recompile when you are finished? Oct 18 07:47:11 yes Oct 18 07:47:44 Okay thanks. What do you mean by Z? Oct 18 07:47:45 I build opie for desktop machine, fix bugs/add new stuff, test on desktop and finally send it to Z Oct 18 07:47:50 Z = Zaurus Oct 18 07:47:55 Ah yep. Doh Oct 18 07:47:57 hehe Oct 18 07:48:18 I suppose it is hard to see if modules and so on will really work without putting them on the z Oct 18 07:48:29 exactly Oct 18 07:48:51 And you just use gcc-arm for opie? Oct 18 07:49:21 if building for Zaurus then yes Oct 18 07:49:39 if for desktop then no - I use gcc from desktop machine (which is x86) Oct 18 07:49:52 Yep. Cool. Oct 18 07:50:37 So do you know how an opie app would hook into the function buttons? Oct 18 07:52:08 Hunter555: hook in what way? Oct 18 07:52:26 Hunter555: grab the keyboard? let the user configure you Oct 18 07:52:55 Hunter555: you want to use function buttons in qt/e application? there is grabKeyboard() method to takeover whole keyboard Oct 18 07:53:24 Yeah I guess. Oct 18 07:53:35 I'm not making much sense at the moment sorry. Oct 18 07:53:45 Been a long day coding at work. :-( Oct 18 07:53:46 http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia2.1/html/qpeapplication.html#grabKeyboard Oct 18 07:54:29 but I would think twice before use that Oct 18 07:55:14 Okay thanks. Things could potentially go very wrong I know. :-) Oct 18 07:56:09 Wow. This is vastly different from coding business apps in C#. ;-) Oct 18 07:57:08 Okay I better go to bed now. Thanks for your help. Oct 18 08:09:17 morning Oct 18 08:10:27 hi chouimat Oct 18 08:16:43 hello, i'm trying to build a task-bootstrap. but when it comes compiling gmp-native, it says: "ERROR: Nothing provides gmp-native". i have MACHINE = "h2200" and DISTRO="familiar-0.8.2" in my local.conf and i'm using org.openembedded.dev. i'm sure, i didn't mask it in my local.conf. has anyone a hint for me? Oct 18 08:17:17 org.openembedded.dev does not contain familiar-0.8.2 iirc Oct 18 08:17:52 hm, i just wan't a image i could boot on a ipaq 4100 Oct 18 08:18:20 use org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch and DISTRO="familiar-0.8.3" Oct 18 08:18:52 ok, thanks, i will try that Oct 18 08:22:23 re Oct 18 08:33:09 hi if I'm going to rebuild the image .... what is the min clean up I need to do? Oct 18 08:36:15 later all Oct 18 08:54:22 <_law_> i always get ipkg error any ideas how i can fix this ? http://pastebin.com/397644 Oct 18 08:54:32 <_law_> i am not able do install anything :-( Oct 18 08:54:48 when you got this? Oct 18 08:54:53 more details please Oct 18 08:55:11 <_law_> if i try do install an ipkg Oct 18 08:55:45 <_law_> could it be an problem, because i habe removed all *.conf from /etc/ipkg/ Oct 18 08:56:22 so ipkg does not know about feeds... Oct 18 08:56:49 <_law_> i only added my own feed http://192.168...... Oct 18 08:57:06 <_law_> ipkg update dont get any errors Oct 18 08:57:53 so rebuild Packages in feed maybe? Oct 18 09:03:04 <_law_> hrw|work: same problem Oct 18 09:03:25 you have that package in feed? Oct 18 09:05:03 <_law_> $ ls -l Pack* Oct 18 09:05:03 <_law_> -rw-rw-r-- 1 law law 2984974 Oct 18 18:01 Packages Oct 18 09:05:03 <_law_> -rw-rw-r-- 1 law law 0 Oct 18 17:44 Packages.filelist Oct 18 09:05:03 <_law_> -rw-rw-r-- 1 law law 115779 Oct 18 18:01 Packages.gz Oct 18 09:06:42 e2fsprogs-e2fsck one Oct 18 09:07:05 <_law_> hrw|work: ah yes its in Oct 18 09:08:19 so I dont know what can be fscked Oct 18 09:10:03 heh Oct 18 09:10:12 rm /etc/ipkg/*.conf if BAD Oct 18 09:10:23 especially arch.conf Oct 18 09:16:33 FYI I'm having a similar problem with ipkg Packages. The Packages file I built by an akita build shows all packages as "Architecture: armv5te." The Packages file from the opie feed shows Architecture: arm. Is this significant? Should they be "Architecture: akita"? Oct 18 09:18:11 exastra: no, that depends Oct 18 09:20:06 I had previously downloaded a "stock" 3.5.3 and everything (with respect to ipkg) worked. Compiled my own installation (from the org.openembedded.dev feed) and now the only packages that show up are the already-installed ones. Oct 18 09:20:27 Should I use a different feed? Oct 18 09:21:13 hrw|work: you didn't answer me but maybe it's better if i ask here. What would be the minimum configuration for a x86 running a gpe OE based distrib ? Oct 18 09:22:04 cpu/ram let's say for webbrowser and abiword or any word processing tool... Oct 18 09:25:43 alan|laptop: dont know Oct 18 09:26:44 hrw|work: if i get some time, i may try this on an old p133/64mo... this could be a very usefull project... i hope i'll be able to test this. Oct 18 09:42:16 sharp sl-a300 use 2.4.13-ac5-rmk2 kernel... weird device it is.. Oct 18 09:44:02 well min ram for any linux is 8Mb Oct 18 09:44:41 funny things happen below that Oct 18 09:45:48 cu Oct 18 10:24:56 <_law_> does anyone know which packges provides fnmatch.py? Oct 18 12:30:53 hi Oct 18 12:31:04 has anyone compiled succesfully directfb? Oct 18 12:36:04 RP: ping Oct 18 12:36:47 hi mreimer Oct 18 12:36:55 hi pb_ Oct 18 12:37:42 pb_: would you happen to know how devfs would name a CF block device (e.g. /dev/hda)? I want to try booting from CF now that we have 2.6.13 Oct 18 12:37:48 who assigns the bug in the bugzilla? Oct 18 12:37:56 they never change Oct 18 12:40:54 mreimer: not exactly, but the "root=" argument should accept the old style names anyway Oct 18 12:41:29 The devfs names for those are kind of complex: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/dev0/part1 or something Oct 18 12:42:00 pb_: yuck. I want to load the zImage from LAB, which means I need to mount using the devfs-style name, but LAB doesn't have ls, so it's a guessing game. :-( Oct 18 12:42:16 oh, right Oct 18 12:42:20 that is unfortunate Oct 18 12:42:29 maybe it would be quicker to write "ls" for lab :-} Oct 18 12:42:34 :-) Oct 18 12:42:38 :) Oct 18 12:42:40 I'll try booting using devfs and not udev Oct 18 12:43:38 then I can ls from userland Oct 18 12:43:48 kboot! :P Oct 18 12:46:42 hi Oct 18 12:46:53 hail zecke Oct 18 12:47:13 feel my fluff power Oct 18 12:47:20 fear Oct 18 12:47:26 fluff? Oct 18 12:47:57 mithro: fluff is everything that isn't PIM Oct 18 12:48:10 e.g everything team Opie want to delete from standard images Oct 18 12:48:19 you should it isn't the stuff you remove from your belly button? Oct 18 12:50:06 if i wanted PIM i would get a Palm! :P Oct 18 12:50:15 i wonder if Evolution runs on the Zaurus Oct 18 12:52:59 mithro: the infrastructure of Evo could... Oct 18 12:52:59 somebody should make an Evolution "Lite" Oct 18 12:53:34 thats a line of thinking thats just not healthy Oct 18 12:53:34 mithro: o-hand has a eds-dbus Oct 18 12:53:38 mithro: mallums' compnay is working/worked on a D-BUS based Evo Data Center Oct 18 12:59:48 maybe it would also help evolution cut back some of that fat Oct 18 13:00:49 anyone familiar with svn uris with bitbake? Oct 18 13:05:42 hrm internet radio sucks Oct 18 13:05:59 my $20 radio sounds better Oct 18 13:06:28 you're just full of complaints today Oct 18 13:06:46 mithro: maybe you're listening to the wrong stations Oct 18 13:06:52 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf262fbec... 10/: Oct 18 13:06:53 openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: tweaked feeds list to use DISTRO_VERSION and added upgrades/${MACHINE} feed Oct 18 13:06:53 - kernel (or other machine specific) upgrades goes to upgrades/${MACHINE}/ feed Oct 18 13:06:53 which need to be named without "/" to protect ipkg from failing Oct 18 13:06:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0967efd0... 10/: powernowd: add 0.96, it doesn't have an initscript yet, though Oct 18 13:07:39 is bitbake incapable of dealing with svn repositories with layouts like: http://svn.host.com/svn/projectA/trunk http://svn.host.com/svn/projectB/trunk Oct 18 13:08:04 gb2: /me is grumpy for some unknown reason Oct 18 13:08:11 it emits: trunk_svn.host.com__DATE.tar.gz Oct 18 13:08:15 for both Oct 18 13:08:30 probably Oct 18 13:08:31 gb2: svn://svn.host.com/svn;module=foo;proto=http Oct 18 13:08:37 gb2: i need something with better quality then mp3 Oct 18 13:09:07 oh, i see.. it does replace / with . Oct 18 13:09:09 hrm. Oct 18 13:11:59 hrm Oct 18 13:12:04 but that doesn't seem to do everything Oct 18 13:14:52 whats asf? Oct 18 13:15:14 sounds like something MS Oct 18 13:15:41 because it sounds really bad Oct 18 13:16:06 hey mickeyl Oct 18 13:16:12 koen: yeah.. doesn't work Oct 18 13:16:29 if i do: svn://svn.host.com/svn;module=projectA/trunk;proto=http Oct 18 13:16:45 it checks out: http://svn.host.com/svn/projectA/trunk Oct 18 13:17:04 then tries to cd into .../oesvn.XXXXXX/projectA Oct 18 13:17:16 mickeyl, you did the mplayer-atty right? Oct 18 13:17:16 so anyone recommend a good internet radio station? Oct 18 13:17:17 but it didn't check out "projectA/trunk" it checked out "trunk" Oct 18 13:17:22 mithro: di.vm Oct 18 13:17:24 erm.. di.fm Oct 18 13:17:26 wpiku_: no, that was XorA Oct 18 13:17:33 oh ok.. well it hates me ;) Oct 18 13:17:34 gb2: url? Oct 18 13:17:55 gb2: when tarring it up, or when trying to compile it? Oct 18 13:18:14 anyone here have mplayer-atty working on zaurus spitz? Oct 18 13:18:29 spitz? Oct 18 13:18:33 sl-c3000 Oct 18 13:18:36 that doesn't use w100, right? Oct 18 13:18:40 bvdd... Oct 18 13:18:50 ahh thats better Oct 18 13:18:51 which I got installed, and mplayer 1.1.5 said no... Oct 18 13:19:00 so I took out the version checking and it said yes, and displayed garbage ;) Oct 18 13:19:09 koen|tv: right. CXK is pxafb Oct 18 13:19:11 it complained the bvdd version was wrong Oct 18 13:19:33 mithro: http://di.fm Oct 18 13:19:39 speaking of.. when I built the kernel, it didn't link in bvdd like I expected Oct 18 13:19:45 gb2: didn't know there was a fm tld Oct 18 13:19:47 I have to load it as a module.. it didn't install it into the modules folder either Oct 18 13:19:49 koen: when checking out/taring Oct 18 13:19:52 di rocks ;) Oct 18 13:20:17 line 643 of fetch.py i think is the problem Oct 18 13:20:24 when I went travelling this year, I listened to di.fm in the car with zaurus -> bluetooth -> gprs ;) Oct 18 13:21:03 di.fm is pretty nice Oct 18 13:21:21 I'm just a vocal trance addict Oct 18 13:21:24 they streamed video + audio of one of our parties a while back Oct 18 13:22:00 mickeyl, do you know if xora ever signs on here? Oct 18 13:22:09 wpiku_: pretty regularly Oct 18 13:22:17 I'll try asking later then Oct 18 13:22:28 I also can't get my on/off switch to work with 3.5.4 ;) Oct 18 13:22:40 that one I'm still trying to figure out Oct 18 13:22:52 ~seen Xora Oct 18 13:23:01 xora was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 4h 43m ago, saying: 'yeah, kismet has a hacked libpcap, I couldnt persuade it to compile with real one'. Oct 18 13:23:13 the CXK on/off isn't recognized by the 2.4 kernel Oct 18 13:23:17 it works nice with the 2.6 one Oct 18 13:23:27 mickeyl, is there a workaround to get my z to turn on? Oct 18 13:23:30 it works fine in 3.5.3 Oct 18 13:23:37 suspend from menu, turn on with button Oct 18 13:24:00 with 3.5.4 I have to boot from scratch or just leave my zaurus on (which is what I've been doing) Oct 18 13:24:20 odd. that never failed for me. then again i did little work on Spitz with 2.4 in the last months Oct 18 13:24:40 yeah.. I would use 2.6 except I can't get it to use the pivotboot image.. Oct 18 13:24:47 I have no idea what to change in the kernel source Oct 18 13:25:00 What makes you want to use the pivotboot? Oct 18 13:25:04 but since I use a disk image sitting on /dev/hda3 (vfat), I need to have a small image to mount the image Oct 18 13:25:05 2.6 can boot from hda1 Oct 18 13:25:10 aha Oct 18 13:25:14 I kept cacko ;) Oct 18 13:25:15 altboot Oct 18 13:25:16 just in case Oct 18 13:25:24 hrmm... good point.. Oct 18 13:25:26 I'll install that Oct 18 13:25:58 I'll wipe my system completely once I get a suitable video player, snes9x and some other things more proepr Oct 18 13:26:12 oh yeah.. and when I can turn it on after I turn it off ;) Oct 18 13:26:12 grr. Oct 18 13:26:13 hrm Oct 18 13:26:33 bbiab Oct 18 13:26:34 I really want a way to rename the path so i don't endup with a dir named "trunk" Oct 18 13:27:00 gb2: and with module=trunk? Oct 18 13:27:09 koen: you get a dir named trunk Oct 18 13:27:42 i want: "svn co svn_path/modulename/trunk modulename" Oct 18 13:28:10 which makes subversion check out with local dir name being "modulename" Oct 18 13:28:32 svn://svn.o-hand.com/repos/matchbox/trunk;module=matchbox-window-manager;proto=http Oct 18 13:29:07 look at the repo layout of that project though. Oct 18 13:29:20 http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/matchbox/trunk/ has a subdir matchbox-window-manager Oct 18 13:29:31 not all subversion repositories are layed out that way Oct 18 13:34:44 apache for example: Oct 18 13:34:48 http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/httpd/httpd/trunk/ Oct 18 13:34:50 that's their trunk Oct 18 13:36:01 evening Oct 18 13:36:23 the current handling in lib/bb/fetch.py seems pretty wrong as a general solution Oct 18 13:48:51 reenoo_: hi Oct 18 13:49:05 reenoo_: do you know how well does mono in oe work now? Oct 18 13:51:10 hi katossi Oct 18 13:52:10 I don't know what you mean by 'in oe' but its build system doesn't appear to support cross compilation if that's what you mean Oct 18 13:52:10 mickeyl, do you know if altboot's etc needs to be on /hda1? Oct 18 13:52:52 mono doesn't even work properly on x86_64 Oct 18 13:52:55 I doubt it will work on arm ;) Oct 18 13:53:12 there's a working arm port Oct 18 13:53:19 lol.. well that's cool Oct 18 13:53:21 even with a JIT Oct 18 13:53:25 maybe some day I can run fspot on my pda Oct 18 13:53:31 but there's a mono package in oe! Oct 18 13:53:41 that's wild... Oct 18 13:54:22 katossi: well, yeah, but nobody has ever got the .bbs to work Oct 18 13:54:37 should move them to nonworking or something I guess Oct 18 13:55:42 I was waiting for somebody to tell me that Oct 18 13:56:08 I tried again and again, but never compiled, though I think it could be done Oct 18 13:56:15 wpiku_: altboot's conf needs to be in the flash Oct 18 13:57:57 ok... Oct 18 13:58:12 I didn't know if 2.6 mounted hda1 on / or anything Oct 18 13:58:18 katossi: mono's build system wasn't exactly designed to work in a cross compilation environment. as I understand it, there's a lot of generated code involved, build tools written in mono, etc. Oct 18 13:58:58 reenoo_: too bad, I wanted to use java on mono on my akita Oct 18 13:59:15 JustinP, you know, I'm not sure about that.. Oct 18 13:59:23 because 2.6 tries to boot off hda1 Oct 18 13:59:43 that's where my (working) init is for 2.4, but 2.6 claims it can't find init ;) Oct 18 14:00:02 katossi: could use jamvm directly... Oct 18 14:00:12 I'll just toss it into hda1 and flash 2.6.. got nothign to lose Oct 18 14:00:18 katossi: or finish the gcj/gij ARM port Oct 18 14:00:40 I'll stick with jamvm Oct 18 14:00:51 Is it working better than sablevm right now? Oct 18 14:01:09 sablevm is suffering bit rot Oct 18 14:01:11 the fact that they are using the official gnu classpath is an advantage or not? Oct 18 14:02:54 it depends Oct 18 14:03:18 if you want relatively current code then yes Oct 18 14:04:05 reenoo_: so if you had to start a project with pda and oe, would you choose jamvm over sablevm and kaffe? Oct 18 14:04:34 I'd evaluate what works best I guess Oct 18 14:05:19 I mean, talking about maturity of the projects Oct 18 14:05:28 stability, and roadmap Oct 18 14:07:42 like I said, you'll have to do your own evaluation work. it's all highly dependent on your particular project Oct 18 14:09:33 reenoo_: thx Oct 18 14:10:21 reenoo_: one last question, what about dot-gnu, or gpe-dotnet? Oct 18 14:10:37 I don't find clear info about this projects Oct 18 14:11:15 the problem is I need something solid, somthing I'm pretty sure will not be discontinued in 2 months Oct 18 14:11:27 Then stick with C Oct 18 14:11:36 * reenoo_ nods Oct 18 14:11:40 must be Java Oct 18 14:12:19 well. the only project that's near to that requirement is probably gcj/gij Oct 18 14:12:37 wpiku_: oh....well if your kernel is booting from hda1 then that's where altboot need to entirely be, yes Oct 18 14:14:29 reenoo_: is gcj fully functinal right now? Oct 18 14:20:22 JustinP, it's nto supposed to be Oct 18 14:20:29 JustinP, 2.4 boots from the flash and uses pivotroot Oct 18 14:20:38 I guess 2.6 has the pcmcia stuff built in so it can mount up hda1 directly Oct 18 14:20:44 *can* Oct 18 14:20:46 and it does so.. it says mounting hda1 as vfs root Oct 18 14:20:48 how did you compile it? Oct 18 14:20:52 well then... Oct 18 14:20:54 JustinP, bitbake linux ;) Oct 18 14:21:03 something like that Oct 18 14:21:17 yes... and since it said that.. Oct 18 14:21:20 I installed everything on hda1 Oct 18 14:21:26 and renamed init.altboot to init Oct 18 14:21:43 so I'm just confused abotu what it's doing.. it should have found init... Oct 18 14:21:49 ohhh.. unless that's a bash script.. Oct 18 14:21:53 heh heh Oct 18 14:22:02 it is Oct 18 14:22:08 no bash, no init.. Oct 18 14:22:18 well, it's a shell script Oct 18 14:22:19 not bash Oct 18 14:22:27 should be using #!/bin/sh Oct 18 14:22:36 works fine from flash Oct 18 14:22:44 so I guess if I put busybox or whatever it needs in there as /bin/sh it might boot Oct 18 14:22:59 did you not install a full system? Oct 18 14:23:00 yeah I know.. I wish it pointed at the flash ;) Oct 18 14:23:15 JustinP, I created a 200 meg image and untarred rootfs to it Oct 18 14:23:21 then I modified pivotboot Oct 18 14:23:29 I thought you coached me through that ;) Oct 18 14:23:39 I think you did IIRC Oct 18 14:29:24 and the image is on....hda3? Oct 18 14:29:29 what's on hda1? Oct 18 14:30:32 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r7b483e2e... 10/: Add missing patch Oct 18 14:30:40 damn! Oct 18 14:30:51 I didn't format my commit message right Oct 18 14:30:53 oh well... Oct 18 14:31:04 Now you're in for it Oct 18 14:36:00 sorry Oct 18 14:36:00 back Oct 18 14:36:16 image is on hda3.. hda1 is mostly links to things on flash Oct 18 14:36:23 and /usr Oct 18 14:36:34 hda2 is /etc and the rest Oct 18 14:36:49 hda3 is the vfat data storage Oct 18 14:39:29 so you're booting from the Sharp hda1 Oct 18 14:39:38 yeah, I can see how that would fsck it up Oct 18 14:39:44 ;) Oct 18 14:39:48 you shouldn't have used that kernel, then Oct 18 14:40:00 I realize there's something ungood about it ;() Oct 18 14:40:01 ;) Oct 18 14:40:02 you should have changed it to boot from, say, flash and put th epivotboot image on it Oct 18 14:40:16 JustinP, couldn't find where to change that Oct 18 14:40:40 somewhere in init.c Oct 18 14:40:45 but ... not that I can find Oct 18 14:41:35 no Oct 18 14:41:38 it's in the bb file Oct 18 14:42:10 $ grep hda1 * Oct 18 14:42:10 linux-openzaurus.inc:CMDLINE_ROOT_spitz = "root=/dev/hda1 rootfstype=ext3 rw " Oct 18 14:42:39 ahh.. it was hiding from me Oct 18 14:42:58 I guess just mtdblock2 should do it Oct 18 15:23:12 'night all Oct 18 15:23:21 * mithro pulls out hair Oct 18 15:23:46 wtf is working out how to deal with disconnected operation so hard? Oct 18 15:31:04 mithro: ? Oct 18 15:34:04 JustinP: i'm trying to figure out how to get disconnect operation to work for a server/client application Oct 18 15:36:00 and it's driving me batty Oct 18 15:37:33 sorry, missed that, screen crashed Oct 18 15:38:35 [00:35] JustinP: i'm trying to figure out how to get disconnect operation to work for a server/client application Oct 18 15:38:35 [00:36] * JustinP has quit ("Lost terminal") Oct 18 15:38:35 [00:37] * JustinP (n=papercra@c-67-174-226-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #oe Oct 18 15:38:35 [00:37] and it's driving me batty Oct 18 15:41:47 sorry, I still don't know what you mean Oct 18 15:44:33 okay i have a server/client application Oct 18 15:44:48 which needs to continue working when there is no connection Oct 18 15:46:46 cya Oct 18 15:48:36 mithro: ah. So you need to detect a disconnect and continue operation somehow? say, by saving commands to be sent to the server later? Oct 18 15:58:44 JustinP: yes Oct 18 15:58:55 only it's not that simple Oct 18 16:00:45 it never is, is it? Oct 18 16:04:11 my biggest problem is Oct 18 16:04:35 do i let dependent events develope Oct 18 16:04:52 ie things which require me to assume the server said okay Oct 18 18:27:41 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r94103b1b... 10/: ucslugc, openslug: add mdadm 1.12 to packages Oct 18 18:27:45 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r92098070... 10/: Oct 18 18:27:45 uclibc: add uClibc.machine, uClibc.distro + empty defaults in uclibc.inc Oct 18 18:27:45 - Change uclibc 0.9.28 ucslugc builds (only) to use the new mechanism Oct 18 18:27:45 - to select ucslugc arm and armeb config Oct 18 18:27:45 - There is no change to any build config (including ucslugc), just a Oct 18 18:27:45 - change in mechanism. Oct 19 01:01:39 morning Oct 19 01:01:52 hey XorA Oct 19 01:29:06 morning Oct 19 01:30:07 /kick monotone.vanille.de Oct 19 01:32:09 again? Oct 19 01:32:15 I just did that 20 minutes ago Oct 19 01:32:25 works now Oct 19 01:32:47 maybe I got network problem locally Oct 19 01:33:01 happens sometimes with those old linksys routers Oct 19 01:45:27 hi alan|laptop Oct 19 01:45:55 yo hrw|work ! Oct 19 01:46:08 * alan|laptop connected trough his wifi card !!! Oct 19 01:50:54 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf3eaba5c... 10/: gpe-bootsplash: add custom bootsplash for familiar Oct 19 02:00:12 morning all! Oct 19 02:00:24 hey katossi Oct 19 02:00:29 anone ever tried kaffe-qt? Oct 19 02:26:13 morning Oct 19 02:40:31 can anyone try to access the freedesktop cvs Oct 19 02:40:50 nope Oct 19 02:40:51 cvs://anoncvs:anoncvs@pdx.freedesktop.org/cvs/xlibs;module=Render is what I'm trying but I get refused connection Oct 19 02:40:59 same here Oct 19 02:41:20 ok, so it's a general problem, now I feel released Oct 19 02:41:45 koen: do you know if it's temporal? Oct 19 02:42:10 I sure hope so Oct 19 02:47:56 since when do we have that problem? Oct 19 02:49:04 since half an hour or so Oct 19 02:49:15 that's when I noticed pdx being down Oct 19 02:57:59 ahm, ok, not a biig problem there, could be anything **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 19 03:00:21 2005