**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 21 03:00:00 2005 Oct 21 03:04:04 RP: any news with the just discovered akita hardware? could I help in any way? Oct 21 03:11:51 katossi: No news. I'm trying to figure it out. Unless you know a lot about mtds and jffs2, there isn't much that can be done... Oct 21 03:12:11 RP: sorry but I don't Oct 21 03:28:06 RP: here http://www.aleph1.co.uk/yaffs/jffs2_and_nand.html they say you can't use jffs2 with nand, is it still true? Oct 21 03:30:27 katossi: No, jffs2 supports NAND now Oct 21 03:30:42 ok sorry, just trying to help :( Oct 21 03:32:49 The problem is that the sharpsl driver I wrote doesn't support the new large page size device that's in akita. Whilst I've added large page size support, I'm seeing a ton of ecc errors Oct 21 03:33:45 oh, you did program the driver, impressive! Oct 21 03:34:28 how do the guys of pdaxrom do it? Oct 21 03:34:45 They don't use 2.6 Oct 21 03:37:44 RP: of course there's no way to reverse-engineer the 2.4 sharp driver, isn't it? Oct 21 03:38:07 We have the source code... Oct 21 03:39:43 do you? Oct 21 03:40:01 I thought they would make it closed sources Oct 21 03:40:40 and can't you use it as a base? Oct 21 03:41:09 I am... Oct 21 03:45:56 RP: I'm pretty sure you'll make it Oct 21 04:58:32 koen: http://kopsisengineering.com/kopsis/IrKeyboardDrivers Oct 21 05:00:13 I've seen that Oct 21 05:02:08 tried maybe? Oct 21 05:05:51 no, I think it breaks with 2.6 where we use sane keycodes Oct 21 05:07:13 sooner or later someone will probably try to get it working not only on pdaX Oct 21 06:01:16 Ciao all Oct 21 06:01:29 hi Pigi Oct 21 06:01:36 hi hrw|work Oct 21 06:03:06 hrw|work, how did your tests on multiple pkg install went ? Oct 21 06:03:30 was ok Oct 21 06:03:49 either on ipkg and PM or just on ipkg or what :) ? Oct 21 06:03:57 ipkg Oct 21 06:04:31 so the problem could be either on PM than on ipkg's export function to PM ? Oct 21 06:05:05 truely? dont know Oct 21 06:05:39 well, if ipkg has not the bug, but the PM does have it ..... Oct 21 07:31:22 * france is back (gone 30:48:45) Oct 21 07:31:53 news on the front page of hh.org Oct 21 07:45:42 france: interesting -- is HP still sponsering Linux work on PDAs? Oct 21 07:53:11 qmorning Oct 21 07:53:47 * france is away: Away Oct 21 07:53:52 afternoon Oct 21 08:08:07 later all Oct 21 08:20:39 http://lxr.linux.no/source/arch/arm/kernel/dec21285.c?v=2.2.26;a=arm#L188 Oct 21 08:21:39 zecke_: ;)) Oct 21 08:24:43 where's the oe monotone server now? monotone.vanille.de seems to have been down for a while. Oct 21 08:25:44 read http://www.openembedded.org/ Oct 21 08:25:51 we have mirrors listed Oct 21 08:25:55 i guess the backup works Oct 21 08:27:18 oh god.. i wonder how long 745 revisions is going to take Oct 21 08:35:35 longer then fetching snapshot Oct 21 08:41:02 yeah Oct 21 08:41:06 stupid monotone Oct 21 08:42:00 test some replacement and report results Oct 21 08:42:09 hehe Oct 21 08:48:54 cu Oct 21 08:48:58 have a nice weekend Oct 21 09:10:00 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r3cf0fa95... 10/: Oct 21 09:10:01 defconfig: changed settings to support wider range of hardware Oct 21 09:10:01 * CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m (for audio extraction from cdrom) Oct 21 09:10:01 * CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m (for audio extraction from cdrom) Oct 21 09:10:01 * CONFIG_USB_PWC=m (module for Philips and Logitech Webcams) Oct 21 09:10:01 * CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO=y (support USB 1.1 devices on USB 2.0 hubs) Oct 21 09:10:03 * CONFIG_CPU_BIG_ENDIAN=y (should be the default until LE is more mature) Oct 21 09:40:41 RP: you around? I assume you saw the e-mail on the kernel-discuss@hh.org list about the PXA27x sound driver? Oct 21 09:58:43 JustinP: what was the subject/content of the message? Oct 21 10:03:15 raduga: Oct 21 10:03:21 raduga: Audio code update (for cvs) Oct 21 10:03:46 Someone checked in a PXA27x driver to the hh.org kernel CVS (apparently) Oct 21 10:03:58 I asked if it would work for the new zaurii and he said it should Oct 21 10:04:11 patch: http://mandarinlogiq.org/ipaqlab/patch-audio-20051020.tar.bz2 Oct 21 10:05:25 one nice thing about that audio driver is that it powers up/down the relevant functions of the sound chip as needed, so it should be easier on the battery Oct 21 10:05:35 cool Oct 21 10:05:42 you mean this "new" one? Oct 21 10:07:51 If I knew what I was doing I'd try to apply this patch to RP's code....no idea if it would apply or if he's put this in yet... Oct 21 10:08:14 I'd also create a CE-RH2 driver...I guess I should get digging. Noone else is likely to do it I think Oct 21 10:11:03 justinP: yip yip! Oct 21 10:12:21 JustinP: yes, this new one by Giorgio Oct 21 10:14:26 mreimer: has it been put into OE anywhere? Oct 21 10:14:51 JustinP: not as far as I know, though when hh.o comes back online I'm going to commit it there Oct 21 10:16:16 :-) cool Oct 21 10:23:54 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rf9c285d9... 10/: bluez-utils.inc: band-aid fix for compiling on Gentoo AMD64 Oct 21 10:47:16 damn...can't build due to hh.org being down.... Oct 21 10:50:58 is hh.org actually down, or is it level3/etc thats bollixing? Oct 21 10:51:23 hh.org is being moved right now Oct 21 10:51:29 ok :) Oct 21 10:52:13 i guess, while the rest of the net is churning in a tide of mud, is as good a time as any for hh to be off the grid Oct 21 11:41:22 anyone know when hh might be up again? Oct 21 12:43:36 hey Oct 21 13:41:31 oh oh, a lot of sources packages are non existant :( Oct 21 13:45:06 reenoo hh.org is being moved right now Oct 21 13:45:11 but you already knew that Oct 21 13:49:42 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r831dfac6... 10/: openslug-packages: remove php5 from feed. Oct 21 14:35:40 NAiL: heh... Oct 21 14:36:12 it borks on xml2-config, so it's probably not the huge issue Oct 21 14:36:16 * kergoth sighs Oct 21 14:36:35 hi kergoth Oct 21 14:36:44 hey Oct 21 14:36:56 actually, it's because libxml has --disable-schemas (see the php5 bb file) Oct 21 14:37:30 JustinP: checking libxml2 install dir... no Oct 21 14:37:30 configure: error: xml2-config not found. Please check your libxml2 installation. Oct 21 14:39:00 I see... Oct 21 14:39:02 strange Oct 21 14:39:15 oh well Oct 21 14:50:50 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * ra55bfda1... 10/: Add netcat 0.7.1 Oct 21 14:55:40 JustinP: I actually have some progress on the sound driver in my local tree, Nothing that works yet though Oct 21 14:56:14 I see Oct 21 14:56:32 well, apparently this new patch works very well, it just needs some minimal stuff for the zaurii Oct 21 14:56:40 did you see that thread? Oct 21 14:57:06 I saw you ask if it would work on the Zaurii Oct 21 14:57:21 oh he sent the response to me only Oct 21 14:57:32 Here's what Griorgio said: Oct 21 14:57:33 Yes, it's supposed to. Which codec? Do you know the GPIOs to power-up Oct 21 14:57:33 codec/mic/speaker and hp detection? Then it's straightforward to glue all in Oct 21 14:57:33 a module for the machine, just tweaking another similar module. Oct 21 14:57:33 The minimal stuff is no doubt what's missing from my tree as well ;-) Oct 21 14:57:36 Let me know. I'll help. Oct 21 14:58:01 ^_^ Oct 21 14:58:18 hmm Oct 21 14:58:19 once sound is working in 2.6 I'll likely switch over Oct 21 14:58:22 Downloading http://10.0.0.29//kernel-module-netconsole_2.6.14-rc5-r0.0_nslu2.ipk Oct 21 14:58:22 ipkg: invalid magic Oct 21 14:58:33 Anyone know what might cause that? Oct 21 14:58:40 NAiL: debian apache server? Oct 21 14:58:49 I just need to get my butt in gear and dive into building a CE-RH2 driver Oct 21 14:58:50 I've been talking to Liam Girdwood who works for Wolfson Microelectronics (who make the sound chip in the Zaurii) Oct 21 14:58:56 I see Oct 21 14:59:21 NAiL: most likely busted mime types Oct 21 14:59:29 He's given me some patches which add the wm8753. We need to add the 8750 and the 8730 Oct 21 14:59:31 koen: ubuntu, so I guess it's the same problem Oct 21 15:00:00 NAiL: last time that happened to me ipkg downloaded a file which started with application/x-gz Oct 21 15:00:01 I'll push my patches into the dev kernel if there's any interest... Oct 21 15:00:06 or something very similar Oct 21 15:00:43 RP: if I knew what I was doing I'd say go ahead....but I don't know anything about kernel dev and am not likely to contribute anything to a sound driver....:-| Oct 21 15:01:07 I took it from Giorgio's e-mail that all was pretty much done....are these chips not supported in his patches? Oct 21 15:01:14 I barely know what I'm doing with sound drivers... Oct 21 15:01:35 JustinP: Nothing supports there chips other than the legacy 2.4 code I ported Oct 21 15:01:46 s/there/these/ Oct 21 15:01:48 hmmmm.... Oct 21 15:01:52 ok, then Oct 21 15:01:56 koen: ok, I'll see if that fixes it Oct 21 15:01:59 I suppose I misunderstood then.... Oct 21 15:02:17 Its the codec that takes the time... Oct 21 15:02:23 ok Oct 21 15:02:34 You could hack something up but I don't do hacks Oct 21 15:02:38 you could ask Giorgio about more. He apparently knows about this stuff Oct 21 15:02:46 koen: thanks :D Oct 21 15:02:49 I understand Oct 21 15:03:07 If I make a CE-RH2 driver it will amost certainly be a hack since I know nothing about the kernel code structure... Oct 21 15:03:22 but if I can get something working I can always look for help in making it not a hack Oct 21 15:03:26 Giorgio's sound drivers are for sound chips hooked up with I2C and I2S. He put all the code that handles that (DMA etc) in one file, and then each platform like h2200, h1910, hx4700 etc add platform-specific functionality like earphone detect, power GPIOs etc. Oct 21 15:03:51 Also it takes care of powering the various blocks of the sound chip on/off Oct 21 15:04:12 If you write something I'll try and help you get it to conform to mainline standards. I just can't test due to the lack of hardware. I know the input system quite well... Oct 21 15:04:35 The cx70 and cxx00 use I2c and I2S Oct 21 15:04:47 He has it working for UDA1380; not sure which others Oct 21 15:04:58 Giorgio really needs to talk to Liam and make sure they're not conflicting... Oct 21 15:05:13 that would be good Oct 21 15:05:25 The Zaurus tree is going to head down Liam's soc and codec plugin route Oct 21 15:05:25 what's his email address? I'll forward it to Giorgio Oct 21 15:05:45 also supports ak4641 Oct 21 15:06:10 liam.girdwood@wolfsonmicro.com Oct 21 15:06:13 Well I'm sure I'll eventually try to get this driver working....it's kind of useless without the sound driver, though Oct 21 15:06:14 thanks RP Oct 21 15:06:22 Tell him I sent him ;-) Oct 21 15:06:48 The sound driver will happen, once I find some time to spend on the codec Oct 21 15:07:04 Liam's code should sort the rest for me/the Zaurii... Oct 21 15:07:48 I know, and I understand completely. I'm not trying to push you. Oct 21 15:08:06 RP: while I've got your ear: I'd like to get LAB booting from CF using your patches. Do you know what device node to use for mounting root? Oct 21 15:08:31 /dev/hda1? Oct 21 15:08:36 that easy? Oct 21 15:08:41 yup Oct 21 15:08:46 ok I'll try it Oct 21 15:08:52 Works for me... Oct 21 15:09:05 Expect I have to swap the CF slots around on my hardware... Oct 21 15:09:41 LAB uses devfs, so to mount a fs in order to load the kernel to boot I have to specify funny names like /dev/mmc/blk0/part5. (LAB mounts, loads the final kernel, then boots it) Oct 21 15:09:45 (My fixed disk is really slot 1 so if a CF card is inserted in slot 0 at boot, the root becomes /dev/hdc1 ) Oct 21 15:10:13 I hate devfs with a passion ;-) Oct 21 15:10:25 but root=/dev/hda1 works for spitz Oct 21 15:10:40 yeah, udev is better, but udev won't work for LAB :-( Oct 21 15:11:05 This is before udev loads though... Oct 21 15:11:38 yep Oct 21 15:11:57 I'll have to ask about what LAB's doing that makes it work the way it does Oct 21 15:12:18 I have the Zaurus bootloader which deals with loading the kernel for me... Oct 21 15:12:47 Now pcmcia-cs is dead, It will happily boot from a CF device if asked to... Oct 21 15:12:56 excellent Oct 21 15:13:10 just need to have ide-cs and ide-disk built-in? Oct 21 15:13:18 yes Oct 21 15:13:27 We build most things into Zaurus kernels Oct 21 15:13:37 Otherwise its just a waste of flash... Oct 21 15:13:52 (kernel is a fixed chunk of the first mtd partition) Oct 21 15:13:58 yep Oct 21 15:26:32 'night all Oct 21 15:26:35 night Oct 21 15:29:40 koen: rememeber that xextensions problem where multiple versions would conflict? Setting DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="1" in xextensions_1.0.1.bb seems to fix it for me Oct 21 15:30:06 ah, ok Oct 21 15:30:23 I was considering deleting that stuff from the branch Oct 21 15:30:35 that's another way to do it :-) Oct 21 17:02:03 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rcd62a942... 10/: ucslugc-image: Added Oct 21 20:37:45 * france is away: Away Oct 22 00:59:30 Hi, is the problems in handhelds.org bad? Oct 22 01:06:13 lamikr: see the topic in #handhelds.org Oct 22 01:06:59 Oh, so not a crash. Good Oct 22 01:09:56 koen: I have just been able to put up the 2.6.14-rc5 based kernel and patches that oe needs to build it. Can it still manage itself to 0.83? It has bt, OSS sound (work for alsa in progress), etc. that are missing from 2.6.12 based kernel. I also need to send another patch for h6300.conf and 2.6.12 kernels to make them use udev. Oct 22 01:15:48 I think that can go in Oct 22 01:25:46 nice, After I will make gpe test build once handhelds.org is up and then send the patches. Oct 22 01:25:55 Need to go now. Oct 22 02:45:33 is it still possible to get kernel source and configs for the kernel used in OZ 3.5.3 ? Oct 22 02:50:54 I guess openzaurus.org should be able to tell you **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 22 02:59:56 2005