**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 23 02:59:57 2005 Oct 23 03:06:28 is OE website down ? Oct 23 03:10:14 alan|home: what do you think? Oct 23 03:11:09 stupid dns... Oct 23 04:01:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5c2d88f0... 10/: gpe-mini-browser: add normal and hildon version of 0.17 Oct 23 04:26:29 morning Oct 23 04:27:46 morning reenoo_ Oct 23 04:31:48 hi pH5 Oct 23 05:12:21 hi reenoo_ Oct 23 05:13:09 hey pb_ Oct 23 05:42:27 reenoo_: If you talk about trust, personally I trust treke, but generally oesources.org is not as trustworthy as it should be to replace upstream sources Oct 23 05:42:43 reenoo_: and for now, a not buildable bitbake file Oct 23 05:42:53 reenoo_: should either be removed, or should be updatet to be buildable Oct 23 05:48:26 zecke_: like I said in #gpe already updating is not an option if you want to deal with this Oct 23 05:49:10 Oct 23 05:49:12 we've had serious regressions because of this nonsense (mtd-utils Oct 23 05:49:12 comes to mind) Oct 23 05:49:12 02:34PM reenoo: If I can not build a package because the sources are Oct 23 05:49:12 not available then this is clearly a issue Oct 23 05:49:12 sure Oct 23 05:49:24 an issue that needs a different solution Oct 23 05:49:24 blindly updating packages is not an option Oct 23 05:49:24 packages should be updated if and only if the maintainer wants to. Oct 23 05:49:24 not because an upstream maintainer forces him to by making the Oct 23 05:49:24 sources unavailable Oct 23 05:49:36 currently bitbake/OE doesn't manage sources at all. *that* needs to Oct 23 05:49:37 be fixed Oct 23 05:49:37 and while we're at it... ideally I'd want to ditch monotone (or any Oct 23 05:49:37 other SCM for that matter) and add source archive upload and .bb Oct 23 05:49:37 upload functionality to bitbake Oct 23 05:49:37 similar to how conary works Oct 23 05:49:49 zecke_: let's wait for the hh.org e-mail situation to improve and Oct 23 05:49:49 discuss it via mail Oct 23 05:50:07 Oct 23 05:50:23 well let us wait, and this is a nice goal Oct 23 05:50:41 BUT files are broken now. Companies using bitbake/OE now to build their distribution have broken builds Oct 23 05:51:08 that gives a bad impression, and saying we will have a proper infrastructure within two years is not the answer! Oct 23 05:51:45 if location of the source changes, and it is really the same source (md5sum, signature... match) it can not be bad to update the SRC_URI Oct 23 05:51:52 alternatively remove the bitbake files Oct 23 05:52:53 if you *want to* worry about corporate use of bitbake/OE you'd have to fix the monotone nonsense first. and that's not going to happen anytime soon either. for now I'd just not worry about missing sources Oct 23 05:53:17 if it turns out to be a problem to anyone they can fix it Oct 23 05:53:33 reenoo_: sorry, I can only think of 'idiot' as an answer Oct 23 05:53:46 reenoo_: you can use rsync, wget to get an up to date OE tree Oct 23 05:54:00 reenoo_: and that is one way to get n bitbake files Oct 23 05:54:19 reenoo_: for finding sources manually you need much more effort to find the upstream source Oct 23 05:54:59 reenoo_: If you can not find a replacement for monotone - that bothers you so much Oct 23 05:55:14 reenoo_: how should you ever implement such an architecture? Oct 23 05:55:32 reenoo_: and please reiterate the issues you had with mtd Oct 23 05:55:47 as I'm not aware of them Oct 23 05:56:01 personally I don't mind monotone that much anymore Oct 23 05:56:11 I was talking about corporate use Oct 23 05:57:01 reenoo_: well monotone is not an issue for at least two corporates I know Oct 23 05:57:48 reenoo_: but it is ridicoulous to say, you may not fix an issue, because another issue is not fixed the way I want it to be fixed Oct 23 05:58:25 well. nevermind Oct 23 05:58:31 reenoo_: And I could say I do not care if Gtk bits can not be build Oct 23 05:58:37 if you think of me as an idiot then so be it Oct 23 05:59:14 damn Oct 23 06:40:16 zecke: ping Oct 23 06:51:19 zecke: regarding what renoo said, the monotone thing has pretty much caused my corporation to abandon OE. Oct 23 06:51:35 I suppose it was reenoo who said that, actually Oct 23 06:58:01 pb_: the fact that monotone sucks? Oct 23 06:58:05 or that it's always done? Oct 23 06:58:07 or? Oct 23 07:00:04 pb_: interesting Oct 23 07:01:02 pb_: my issue with the statement was that the monotone issue had nothing to do with non buildable bb files Oct 23 07:01:35 pb_: monotone itself, or the speed? did you hold a bitkeeper license earlier? Oct 23 07:09:18 zecke: yeah, I agree that the non-buildable .bb thing is unrelated. I only mentioned the monotone business for your interest. Oct 23 07:10:15 the speed is certainly a big part of it, but it's not the only issue. The general perception that monotone seems to be flaky, and having to upgrade the client software when the servers are upgraded, didn't help either. Oct 23 07:15:15 so we need to move to a better SCM? Oct 23 07:15:43 well, no, not necessarily. I understand the reasons why OE is using monotone. Oct 23 07:16:38 clearly monotone does work well enough for many people. It doesn't happen to work well enough for us, at least not at the moment, but that isn't really OE's problem. Oct 23 07:18:04 pb_: the beginning of monotone was unfortunate Oct 23 07:18:23 Mercurial is suppose to be pretty good :P Oct 23 07:18:42 from the Kongress i found that Monotone was a huge hurtle for many people Oct 23 07:18:50 mithro: good enough to get shutdown by larry Oct 23 07:19:18 mithro: anything that isn't either cvs or http is a big hurtle Oct 23 07:19:51 koen: but the speed problem Oct 23 07:20:14 doing a checkout from scratch takes days Oct 23 07:20:30 for me monotone is faster as bk since it doesn't do a consistency check Oct 23 07:20:40 but for 99.9% of the people it's just too slow Oct 23 07:21:12 koen: why doesn't your monotone do consistency checks? Oct 23 07:21:26 it doesn't really have too Oct 23 07:21:38 since everything is in a .db with hashes and so on Oct 23 07:21:52 s/too/to/ Oct 23 07:22:04 bk checked all files on disk Oct 23 07:22:15 which is sloooooow on my crappy disks Oct 23 07:22:19 an initial bk check took under 1 hour Oct 23 07:22:39 pb_: OT: how is recieva doing? Are you considering doing DAB/DMB or DVB as well? Oct 23 07:23:07 zecke: we consider everything Oct 23 07:23:20 DAB/DMB? Oct 23 07:23:30 mithro: Digital Audio Broadcasting Oct 23 07:23:30 everything Oct 23 07:23:40 mithro: and on top of that Digital Media Broadcasting Oct 23 07:25:07 arg... my sinuses are full of crap :/ Oct 23 07:25:43 sounds like you need to get your head out of... mm, no, forget that Oct 23 07:26:19 s/crap/mucus Oct 23 07:26:28 heh Oct 23 07:34:26 hello, I've been having touchscreen issues with a fam083 I've been trying to create I've added support for the blueangel into the tslib configs but now it just segfaults when I load X, any ideas? Oct 23 08:14:48 morning Oct 23 08:24:35 re Oct 23 09:00:14 hi kergoth Oct 23 09:13:30 hi all Oct 23 09:13:48 I received my 770 last week and I like to work on oe support Oct 23 09:13:58 anything I can do? Oct 23 09:14:03 (beginner level) Oct 23 09:14:21 is there a todo list? Oct 23 09:14:38 get the kernel source :) Oct 23 09:14:50 I know, that they are not published yet Oct 23 09:15:05 but there seems to be some basic support in oe Oct 23 09:15:34 yes, we have a machine definition and most maemo packages Oct 23 09:16:08 I will try to compile it and see what I get Oct 23 09:16:17 next week when the new developer rootstrap gets published we'll need to update some bits Oct 23 09:16:59 that's fine Oct 23 09:17:14 in the mean time I will try to get familar with the build system Oct 23 09:24:19 is there a new dir in the branch for oz 3.5.4 rc ? (if so, i'll update mine, otherwise, i'll wait for an official feed...) Oct 23 09:41:54 mmmh Oct 23 09:42:02 openembedded.org is down Oct 23 09:42:18 oe.handhelds.org does not exist Oct 23 09:42:27 any mirror out there? Oct 23 09:42:45 (or valid ip address) Oct 23 10:39:08 hi all Oct 23 10:58:28 * france is back (gone 10:18:01) Oct 23 11:12:44 * france is away: Away Oct 23 11:15:43 marvin24: as i run out the door for lunch Oct 23 11:16:04 marcan: your dns providor has not yet propigate the new dns entries Oct 23 11:16:19 marvin24: your dns providor has not yet propigate the new dns entries Oct 23 11:16:40 marvin24: add 128.31.0.25 handhelds.org www.handhelds.org ftp.handhelds.org to your /etc/hosts file Oct 23 11:17:13 marvin24: as a temp fix, remove it in a few days Oct 23 11:17:15 bye bye Oct 23 11:19:12 hi koen Oct 23 11:20:54 afk Oct 23 11:23:21 hey hrw Oct 23 13:48:31 Ciao all Oct 23 13:51:53 bye bye Oct 23 13:59:11 hi pigi Oct 23 14:01:48 hi pb_. How are you going ? Oct 23 14:02:15 hi pb Oct 23 14:11:05 bbl Oct 23 14:44:48 hei hei Oct 23 14:47:24 can anyone help me with this bitbake error? Oct 23 14:47:27 http://pastebin.ca/26412 Oct 23 14:47:53 hm has someone else got his 770? Oct 23 14:49:33 delta can you try the svn version of bitbake? Oct 23 14:59:27 I installed it in gentoo.. gentoo automatically gets the svn version.. Oct 23 14:59:46 hm Oct 23 14:59:55 when did you install? Oct 23 14:59:55 "svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake" Oct 23 15:00:07 today :) Oct 23 15:01:06 could you try removing the cache? Oct 23 15:01:17 hi koen Oct 23 15:01:18 rm -rf tmp/cache Oct 23 15:01:22 hey woglinde Oct 23 15:01:28 koen do you have your 770 now? Oct 23 15:01:34 I try that.. Oct 23 15:01:46 woglinde: since friday :) Oct 23 15:01:56 can it be something about me using python 2.4.2 ? Oct 23 15:02:32 *g* and installed the xdelta patch for became root? Oct 23 15:03:13 woglinde: of course :) Oct 23 15:03:21 damnit only windowsflash program Oct 23 15:03:30 and a xterm + dropbear + irssi + gpe Oct 23 15:04:13 where did www.openembedded.org go? Oct 23 15:04:30 128.31.0.25 Oct 23 15:07:36 it's not really reacheable.. Oct 23 15:08:54 hm??? Oct 23 15:09:09 put the following in your /etc/host Oct 23 15:09:21 128.31.0.25 handhelds.org www.handhelds.org ftp.handhelds.org cvs.handhelds.org Oct 23 15:11:16 I tried http://128.31.0.25 Oct 23 15:12:19 traceroute stops here: 11 trantor.kalgan.csail.mit.edu (128.30.0.246) 131.882 ms 130.766 ms Oct 23 15:13:10 for me its working Oct 23 15:14:02 where are you? Oct 23 15:14:29 in germany Oct 23 15:15:22 I am too.. Oct 23 15:15:41 the last hop should be trantor.haven.csail.mit.edu (128.30.0.254) Oct 23 15:18:17 ha, my fault.. Oct 23 15:18:29 firefox doesn't open the ip.. it still tries to resolve.. Oct 23 15:18:34 now I have it in hosts and it works.. Oct 23 15:18:41 but it's still strange.. Oct 23 15:38:38 night all Oct 23 16:12:54 bubu Oct 23 19:05:59 * france is back (gone 07:53:15) Oct 23 19:25:18 kergoth? Oct 23 19:25:39 hm? Oct 23 19:25:54 has anyone had any problems with the oz.pdai.org site? Oct 23 19:26:08 I haven't heard anything either way for a long time Oct 23 19:26:11 no idea, i havent touched oe in months Oct 23 19:26:19 busy with other things Oct 23 19:26:31 and mickeyl is the oz maintainer, not i Oct 23 19:26:33 is that a good or bad thing? Oct 23 19:26:38 oe != oz Oct 23 19:26:47 well, its good to get a break from the mundane existing projects Oct 23 19:27:32 is your current projects in ref to something at work, or some next.. next gen dev toy? Oct 23 19:28:53 eh, not too interested in stuff at work either. been depressed lately. before that, was playing around with AI and fuzzy logic stuffs Oct 23 19:31:51 various medicines would make you alllll better Oct 23 19:32:34 got some. went to the doc last week Oct 23 19:32:42 will be a couple weeks before it takes effect tho Oct 23 19:34:46 =-) Oct 23 19:37:23 hey kergoth, Pendalar :) Oct 23 19:38:12 kergoth: funny you mentioning about oe... haven't done anything o* related for almost a year now I think... Oct 23 19:42:16 sup Oct 23 19:42:37 I don't do all that much because my zaurus is useless aside from SSH'ing to it with a broken TS Oct 23 19:42:55 although I do still host and maintain oz.pdai.org mirror , if anyone uses it Oct 23 19:43:11 sadly my wife bought me a dell axim x50v a few months back Oct 23 19:43:18 which's linux port isn't too far Oct 23 19:43:43 my Z's dead an forgotten, the ram crapped out on me Oct 23 19:45:05 I tried using it with a broken ts.. I like the keyboard anyways, but now it "taps" on it's own randomly and sometimes very often Oct 23 19:45:12 mine are collecting dust in the closet Oct 23 19:45:22 send it to me =-P Oct 23 19:45:28 this axim is about useless Oct 23 19:45:36 no keyboard.. software sucks Oct 23 19:45:49 only thing it does somewhat well is fpsece Oct 23 19:45:52 you're welcome to my old 5000d - everything other than the ram should still be ok Oct 23 19:46:37 if I can get some christmas money out of wify, I'll consider Oct 23 19:46:43 because the TS should be portable Oct 23 19:47:18 I wanted a good clamshell, but she couldn't be persuaded to pay 2x for the same mhz, etc of pocketpc Oct 23 19:48:17 * Twiun grins Oct 23 19:48:42 yeah, same issue here - ended up giving up on PDAs and getting a free P910 on contract Oct 23 19:49:46 I hoped to get a new sl5500 if nothing else, but since they aren't made anymore and what not.. they are practically collectors items on ebay Oct 23 19:50:03 most go for more than what I paid for mine the bloody month they were released Oct 23 20:34:10 Pendalar: are you interested in perhaps a c3000 ? Oct 23 20:35:19 i'm thinking about selling mine Oct 23 20:42:46 5500? really? Oct 23 20:43:02 i see 5500s on the order of $150-$200 frequently on eBay Oct 23 20:43:25 sl6000 on the other hand, seem to be selling at a premium Oct 23 20:47:26 I only paid $225 for mine when it was fresh in stores Oct 23 20:47:41 jnc : probably well out of my $ league, else I'd already own one Oct 23 20:49:43 that's a remarkably good price Oct 23 20:49:56 I don't remember what the 5500s were selling for, new, Oct 23 20:50:11 but the 5600 were >$350 pretty much everywhere Oct 23 20:50:24 closer to $500 from Frys Oct 23 20:50:53 I'd think the 5500s would be at least *close* Oct 23 20:52:15 was from staples with a internet price match Oct 23 20:52:51 that's really a great deal Oct 23 20:52:57 pat yourself on the back :) Oct 23 20:53:23 I'm *pretty* sure the MSRP, when new, was something on the order of $300 or more Oct 23 20:55:20 the 5500 was $500 or so the day it released Oct 23 20:55:24 it came down a bit from there, of course Oct 23 20:55:28 (iirc) Oct 23 20:55:46 kergoth: that seems closer to what I remember Oct 23 20:56:35 price match from a noname website -> decent retail store == sweet Oct 23 20:56:42 kergoth: actually, sorry. I was not aware of the 5500 when released, so I know nothing at all about it. What you suggest is similar to the release pricepoint for the 5600 (which I was aware of) Oct 23 20:57:13 pendalar should congratulate himself, on getting a good deal. Oct 23 20:57:20 but now it's broke lol Oct 23 20:57:22 =-D Oct 23 20:57:27 but complaining that eBay prices aren't significantly lower than that price, is being silly Oct 23 20:58:10 raduga: right, i'm pretty sure the 5600 was similar Oct 23 20:58:24 well it's been awhile since it's release.. Oct 23 20:58:39 compared to the same time span from release -> now for say.. a Palm unit Oct 23 20:58:49 it would be next to trashable for the price on ebay Oct 23 20:59:29 pendalar: personally, which would you find more valuable, in terms of its utility to you Oct 23 20:59:37 a 3 year old Palm, or a 3 year old Zaurus? Oct 23 21:00:07 I'm finding a 3 yr old zaurus (or whatever it is now) much much more useful than a 2 month old Pocket PC Oct 23 21:00:41 I would be all for trading the unit for a decent zaurus + some cash but it was a present from the wife, so she'd skin me Oct 23 21:01:06 so, she got you a Pocket PC? skin her! Oct 23 21:01:27 yeah no joke Oct 23 21:01:27 and tan the hide, use it as a carrying case for your Zaurus Oct 23 21:02:11 raduga: not married right? she'd find a way to end up using *his* hide for her next pair of shoes... Oct 23 21:02:14 I never did get a decent case for my zaurus Oct 23 21:02:50 I wanted this one psion alum case, all I would have to do is get a razor blade to the foam in it Oct 23 21:03:03 Pendalar, is your definition of usefulness in anyway to do with the state of devel on both devices? Oct 23 21:03:04 got a rhinoskin alum for my dell Oct 23 21:03:59 well I can barely get decent IM or much of anything .. at cost.. besides a MP3 player for the dell Oct 23 21:04:35 on the zaurus I've got a real working setup to admin it and other boxes, aside from all the software that's avail. Oct 23 21:05:01 i'll take that as a yes Oct 23 21:05:17 I doubt you can even compile on pocketpc Oct 23 21:05:25 you can Oct 23 21:05:33 many compliers exist Oct 23 21:05:45 for how much? =-x Oct 23 21:06:13 the same can be said for non-oz zaurus Oct 23 21:07:00 as I said earlier, the only real perk to the axim is to run FPSECE Oct 23 23:27:17 hi guys Oct 24 00:12:26 evening Oct 24 00:40:22 hi Oct 24 00:40:24 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r00415d9b... 10/: Oct 24 00:40:24 ixp400-eth: fix reboot (module unload) problem in LE patch for 1.4 Oct 24 00:40:24 - The LE patch removed code to initialise a semaphore, this caused Oct 24 00:40:24 - a crash when the semaphore was used during the device close Oct 24 00:40:24 - Also change config to use the 'only one NPE' option in the build, Oct 24 00:40:25 - however by examination this doesn't work very well. Oct 24 00:51:15 morning Oct 24 00:51:21 hi XorA Oct 24 00:52:24 * france is away: Away Oct 24 00:56:33 hey hrw|work & XorA Oct 24 00:58:18 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r0cc93a00... 10/: Oct 24 00:58:18 ixp4xx-csr: improve Intel license handling in 1.4 Oct 24 00:58:18 - version 1.4 of ixp4xx-csr now behaves like the other versions and Oct 24 00:58:18 - requires users of the package to download the source code themselves Oct 24 00:58:18 - from Intel. This helps ensure than no one accidentally violates the Oct 24 00:58:20 - license agreement (by forcing all builders of the software to read it) Oct 24 00:58:22 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r1a06c99a... 10/: Oct 24 00:58:23 openslug-image: add udev to RDEPENDS within openslug-image itself Oct 24 00:58:25 - This change effectively forces all users of openslug-image to use Oct 24 00:58:27 - udev. Before this change the DISTRO file had to set udev to be Oct 24 00:58:29 - installed. This ensures consistency and removes the requirement to Oct 24 00:58:31 - maintain a fully and correctly populated static dev directory (it is Oct 24 00:58:33 - currently broken and will probably remain so!) Oct 24 00:58:35 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r95824471... 10/: (log message trimmed) Oct 24 00:58:37 ucslugc, nslu2: formalise different build configs, move to IAL 2.0 and nslu2-kernel Oct 24 00:58:39 - ucslugc is substantially as before, however the configuration is now Oct 24 00:58:41 - expressed as a specific instance of nslu2-btu.conf (big-endian, thumb, Oct 24 00:58:43 - uclibc). The other six buildable variants of ucslugc have been added Oct 24 00:58:45 - as separate configuration files, all with names of the form 'nslu2-???' Oct 24 00:58:47 - for big vs little, arm vs thumb and glibc vs uclibc. Oct 24 00:58:51 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rabfd9f00... 10/: Oct 24 00:58:53 uclibc: rename ucslugc config file to nslu2 in 0.9.28 Oct 24 00:58:55 - the file is actually used in all NSLU2 uclibc builds, even though Oct 24 00:58:57 - it contains distro settings, therefore to avoid replicating it it Oct 24 00:58:59 - is made the default for all NSLU2 Oct 24 01:02:30 morning all Oct 24 01:03:50 hey RP koen Oct 24 01:04:47 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r2849dc70... 10/: nslu2-kernel: fix redboot.c compiler warning messages in 2.6.14(all) Oct 24 01:12:21 morning all Oct 24 01:16:52 openoffice.org changelog in debian is long... 1.1.4->dev->2.0 Oct 24 01:50:45 hi,guys when fetch libqpe-opie-1.2.1 is failed from CVS ..(oz-3.5.4 |opie-image |) Oct 24 01:51:17 hello Oct 24 01:51:29 hi Oct 24 01:52:11 dunky: during weekend hh.org was moving - can you try now? Oct 24 01:56:36 hrw:yes , I am doing it. there is a Fail yet Oct 24 01:57:47 Is there any obvious reason why, if I'm building from OE off the wrt54oe distro, it will try to build the linux-jlime kernel? Which isn't even for the right architecture. Oct 24 01:58:24 Noodles: wrt54oe is more experiment then working distro config Oct 24 01:58:36 'bitrotted' is more accurate Oct 24 01:58:55 hrw:where is and shall I found hh.org Oct 24 01:59:08 Noodles: you can use it to build extra packages for openwrt anyway Oct 24 01:59:10 Fair enough. I still don't understand why it would want to generate a jlime kernel. I'm trying to build a new image for my Netgear and figured that was the best place to start. Oct 24 01:59:17 h10:59 hrw@home:~$ host handhelds.org Oct 24 01:59:18 handhelds.org A 128.31.0.25 Oct 24 01:59:52 hrw,thank you_ Oct 24 02:00:11 Noodles: maybe lzma-native failed? Oct 24 02:00:49 No, it fails on: NOTE: package linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.11-r0: task do_compile: failed Oct 24 02:00:59 This is not surprising, as it's a mipsel toolchain, not an sh3 one. Oct 24 02:04:16 Noodles: do 'bitbake -nv virtual/kernel' and look what is build Oct 24 02:07:14 OT: Any TeX expert around? Oct 24 02:07:28 how to insert code sniplets in a sane (non verbatim) way? Oct 24 02:08:17 hmm.. I had that in my master thesis.. but no source now Oct 24 02:08:54 hrw|work: Hmmm. That appears to be it; it's not picking up the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-wrt" and choosing the jlime one instead. Oct 24 02:11:10 Noodles: and choosing *any* instead Oct 24 02:11:20 jlime is just first selected Oct 24 02:11:45 Yes, sorry, it just ends up the first in the list of available ones so it chooses it. Oct 24 02:14:51 ARGH... my home machine answer to ping but not to ssh connections ;( Oct 24 02:15:30 something killed it.. Oct 24 02:19:32 hrw|work: time for ssh by ICMP tunnelling Oct 24 02:19:40 XorA: ;) Oct 24 02:19:47 XorA: or remote resetting Oct 24 02:19:58 XorA: only icmp works.. Oct 24 02:20:04 hrw|work: no wife at home Oct 24 02:20:21 XorA: no wife at all Oct 24 02:20:50 hrw|work: I always been tempted to buy one of those boxes you can phone and control the mains in the house Oct 24 02:21:23 XorA: and linksys pap2 to be able to phone also via voip Oct 24 02:21:33 :-D Oct 24 02:30:02 hrw:excuse me .it has been interrupt during do fetch cvsdata ,seem cvs have some errors. Oct 24 02:31:04 morning all Oct 24 02:31:15 hi katossi Oct 24 02:31:19 morning katossi Oct 24 02:31:39 dunky: happens Oct 24 02:32:10 hrw:it always Oct 24 02:36:13 Task failed: Fetch failed: opie/library Oct 24 02:37:35 dunky: I'm able to fetch from cvs.handhelds.org Oct 24 02:39:11 bitbake -c fetch opie-image Oct 24 02:40:47 dunky: dig cvs.handhelds.org? Oct 24 02:41:32 now I even fetched as anonymous Oct 24 02:41:39 ~resolve cvs.handhelds.org Oct 24 02:41:55 cvs.handhelds.org is an alias for handhelds.org. Oct 24 02:41:55 handhelds.org has address 128.31.0.25 Oct 24 02:41:55 cvs.handhelds.org is an alias for handhelds.org. Oct 24 02:41:55 cvs.handhelds.org is an alias for handhelds.org. Oct 24 02:41:55 handhelds.org mail is handled by 0 handhelds.org. Oct 24 02:42:01 ops Oct 24 02:43:35 i am a freshman, so poor. Oct 24 02:43:43 :( Oct 24 02:44:00 thank you hrw,and thank zecke. Oct 24 02:45:06 dunky: probably your dns keep old hh.org address ;) Oct 24 02:47:06 .thinking.. perhaps. Oct 24 02:48:10 how could you show me how to dig them from cvs.handhelds.org? Oct 24 02:49:51 "dig cvs.handhelds.org" in shell Oct 24 02:51:30 .trying. Oct 24 02:58:42 hrw:could you tell me how have you done , type cvs directly in shell **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 24 02:59:57 2005