**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 24 02:59:57 2005 Oct 24 03:03:23 what is the new OZ RC based on ? Is there a new... (how do they call this... ?) branch(?) in OE dedicated to this RC ? Oct 24 03:05:10 alan|home: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/36/3640.html Oct 24 03:06:39 thanks koen Oct 24 03:34:51 hrw:It OK, thank you :) Oct 24 03:45:53 ~logs Oct 24 03:45:55 apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org// where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/.html.gz, or updated "nightly" Oct 24 03:52:24 hrw:I have to go , thank you! ..see you. :-) Oct 24 04:00:21 what's the status of www.openembedded.org and oe.hendhelds.org? Oct 24 04:01:37 kergoth need to update dns probably Oct 24 04:03:32 ok, any way to reach the pages now? Oct 24 04:04:35 rather not ;( Oct 24 04:04:54 ok, thanks Oct 24 04:06:02 echo "128.31.0.25 oe.handhelds.org" >> /etc/hosts worked Oct 24 04:06:15 ;) Oct 24 04:16:42 koen: could you kick monotone.vanille.de? Oct 24 04:18:13 whats the place you can download the org.oe.dev monotone db, i cant remember where the bz2 is ? Oct 24 04:20:17 ade|desk: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 you mean? Oct 24 04:20:27 cheers Oct 24 04:21:35 hrw: kicked Oct 24 04:21:50 thx Oct 24 04:22:16 ade|desk: if you associate oe.handhelds.org with 128.31.0.25 in /etc/hosts, you can access the web site Oct 24 04:23:31 been evangelistic about oe to a guy at oxford uni and then i cant get him to the oe wiki, lol. that'll help him a bit Oct 24 04:24:45 ade|desk: Who, OOI? Oct 24 04:25:07 i have a feeling a sod load of email terminals pxe booted all over oxford uni will be happening soon Oct 24 04:25:44 Noodles: erm tomos hillman Oct 24 04:25:49 why ? Oct 24 04:25:51 Is he OUCS? Oct 24 04:26:12 I know a bunch of computing people there. Oct 24 04:26:46 i think so Oct 24 04:27:26 i know him from when i did physics at exeter Oct 24 05:57:12 hi all, Oct 24 05:57:21 hi koen Oct 24 05:57:49 I tried to build the evironment for the 770 and it fails at the C compiler Oct 24 05:58:37 it thinks that arm926ej-s is not the right option for -mtune Oct 24 05:58:48 (bad value) Oct 24 05:59:14 hmmm Oct 24 05:59:20 try removing the hyphen Oct 24 05:59:41 where to edit this? Oct 24 06:00:02 conf/machine/tune-arm926.conf Oct 24 06:00:27 it seems different versions of gcc want different options Oct 24 06:00:42 why is the gcc version not specified anywhere ? Oct 24 06:01:05 oe is pulling 3.4.4-r3 Oct 24 06:01:45 it's mostly defined in the DISTRO Oct 24 06:03:41 ok - this works Oct 24 06:03:52 thanks Oct 24 06:33:08 koen: we now can have MD5SUM and MD5SUM_foo.tar.gz Oct 24 06:36:55 ah, cool Oct 24 08:13:32 cu Oct 24 08:43:47 hi all I'm new here and haven't done any real dev work since 2001 Oct 24 08:44:17 with the SL-5000D and the Sharp Developers group Oct 24 08:44:31 I want to return to development Oct 24 08:44:34 heh, i remember that Oct 24 08:46:11 diJenerate: first would be to get a decent device :P Oct 24 08:46:41 So, say a company might be possibly interested in helping with a source server (especially if that company happens to make nice server processors) Oct 24 08:46:43 what would we need? Oct 24 08:47:36 CosmicPenguin: I suspect treke would be the person to ask.... Oct 24 08:48:13 aka ggilbert (ping) :) Oct 24 08:48:32 hehe Oct 24 08:48:39 conveniently I just woke up Oct 24 08:49:05 ~today Oct 24 08:49:07 I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. Oct 24 08:49:28 truer words were never spoken Oct 24 08:49:36 ggilbert: it seems bugs.oe.org isn't sending mails anymore Oct 24 08:49:43 oh? Oct 24 08:49:48 I'll take a look at that Oct 24 08:50:09 I upgraded the server recently, it might have broken something :) Oct 24 08:50:21 b.oe.org seemed to be working afterwards :) Oct 24 08:50:29 it's working great Oct 24 08:50:32 just no mails :) Oct 24 08:50:37 hehe Oct 24 08:50:41 I'll fix it Oct 24 08:51:42 win 4 Oct 24 08:51:43 bah Oct 24 08:51:59 its definately monday Oct 24 08:52:00 * kergoth sighs Oct 24 08:52:10 well I have a Samsung Nexio XP30 and I want to create an OE disto for it, and I'd like some help Oct 24 08:52:51 is there a linux kernel that runs on it? Oct 24 08:54:05 not yet, but it is a PXA255 processor so that shouldn't be too hard and there are some some modules for nexio in 2.4.x Oct 24 08:54:23 kergoth? I thought you fell off the face of the earth Oct 24 08:54:29 haven't seen you in ages Oct 24 08:55:03 diJenerate, does it have a decent bootloader already? Oct 24 08:55:10 i've been around, just in the developer areas, avoiding end user support Oct 24 08:55:34 CosmicPenguin: zecke and reenoo have some ideas on source mirroring too Oct 24 08:55:40 not sure yet, want ot try running haret on it and dumping the NAND Oct 24 08:55:43 hi Oct 24 08:55:51 kergoth: I can undertstand that ;-) Oct 24 08:55:51 when the site will be up? Oct 24 08:55:52 it's in Korean so this may take a while Oct 24 08:56:05 :) Oct 24 08:56:11 bada, its been up since saturday Oct 24 08:56:20 kick your NS Oct 24 08:56:29 ok, thanks Oct 24 08:56:36 Hand hend Reverse Engineering Rool Oct 24 08:56:39 !tool Oct 24 08:56:40 diJenerate: Don't know, don't care Oct 24 08:56:56 hrw|work handhelds.org has address 128.31.0.25 Oct 24 08:57:12 koen: yeah, I saw the e-mails Oct 24 08:57:13 the bots here seem to be getting more sassy Oct 24 08:57:40 CosmicPenguin: as for the source server, I can get you my old source, but I don't know how well it works with the current bitbake Oct 24 08:57:42 !handheld, I hate this keyboard Oct 24 08:57:43 diJenerate: Don't know, don't care Oct 24 08:58:03 emte: thank, that was the info I was looking for as well :-) Oct 24 08:58:04 The e-mails were talking about having developers check in signed tarballs as they check in .bbs Oct 24 08:58:12 I've been out of it for a while Oct 24 08:58:37 ah. mine doesn't do that, but it was something I thought would be a good idea Oct 24 08:58:51 ggilbert: zecke has written a dedicated bitbake mode (bittest) for downloading sources Oct 24 08:58:59 gotta love those bots Oct 24 08:59:05 just impractical given the connections most of us are on at home. At AMD that would probably work great though Oct 24 08:59:06 whose running that anyway? Oct 24 09:02:21 is there gpe developers here? Oct 24 09:02:49 bada: lots of them in #gpe :) Oct 24 09:02:57 ah, ok :) Oct 24 10:18:14 word. Oct 24 10:18:21 hows the OE crowd!! Oct 24 10:18:24 RAISE THE ROOF! Oct 24 10:33:35 Hi, I am just trying to find out why some wifi cards cause problems on the h2200. I got the card working on my h3900 with no problems using the hostap_cs driver. Therefore, I would like to compare the hostap_cs driver version used in the 0.8.3 h3900 build and the one used in the lastest h2200 build on oe. But I don't know how to get the version used in the h3900 build from 2005-09-13 16:42 . It also works in the normal 0.8.2 build. Any ideas ? Oct 24 10:37:30 Hello everyone ! Oct 24 10:37:35 morning Oct 24 10:38:08 hello Oct 24 10:38:35 i guess it's been asked before, but do you know when openembedded.org will eb up again ? Oct 24 10:39:19 I think it is already up, but the entry hasn't propagated through all DNS servers yet Oct 24 10:39:57 do you know a DNS server that already knows it ? Oct 24 10:40:25 no I don't, my one doesn't know it either yet Oct 24 10:41:11 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rafc082b3... 10/: ixp4xx-csr: move to NPE library 2_0_5 in 2.0 Oct 24 10:41:16 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r0119bfeb... 10/: nslu2-kernel: delete unused patches, add Debian config in 2.6.14 Oct 24 10:41:21 ok, so i'll just wait... Thank you. Oct 24 10:52:24 hey ! Oct 24 10:52:45 how do i pull only the new OZ/FAM branch ? Oct 24 10:59:26 Tadaima Oct 24 11:23:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r79617854... 10/: h2200.conf: change jffs2 pagesize to 4k to have more space in flashi Oct 24 11:52:57 hardwire: ping Oct 24 12:09:35 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rf0e6ce1b... 10/: ucslugc: correct UCSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES, damaged by change to nslu2-dist.conf in distro conf Oct 24 12:10:59 hi kergoth Oct 24 12:11:10 hey Oct 24 12:25:33 good evening !!! Oct 24 12:26:52 hi gremlin[it] !!!!!! Oct 24 12:27:00 hi pb_ ! Oct 24 12:35:08 heisann! Oct 24 12:35:25 is cvs.handhelds.org up again? Oct 24 12:36:40 sure is Oct 24 12:49:30 bye Oct 24 12:54:46 can you tell me it's ip? Oct 24 12:55:16 or is it the same as handhelds.org? Oct 24 12:55:42 the same Oct 24 12:55:46 merci Oct 24 13:12:51 kergoth: whats up bitch Oct 24 13:12:56 hows life hanging homie Oct 24 13:14:25 hardwire: remember that questioni at my work i was asking you about the other day? with the packet level load balancing across tunnels to bond between two servers? Oct 24 13:14:29 finally got it happy :) Oct 24 13:24:32 kergoth: how did that all work out? Oct 24 13:24:41 * hardwire is in here to bother all about squashfs/unionfs Oct 24 13:27:40 mm, unionfs Oct 24 13:27:43 i wish they'd fix its panics Oct 24 13:27:49 it /still/ has stability issues Oct 24 13:27:54 after numerous months of development Oct 24 13:28:24 kergoth: heh Oct 24 13:38:12 hmm Oct 24 13:38:16 what about filesystem snapshotting? Oct 24 13:38:21 vs unionfs. Oct 24 13:39:16 using device mapper Oct 24 13:51:43 re kergoth Oct 24 13:51:50 grr Oct 24 13:51:55 * kergoth_ stabs comcast Oct 24 13:51:57 hm? Oct 24 13:52:23 flaky net connection. comcast is the broadband provider Oct 24 13:52:28 heh Oct 24 13:53:05 is it private or at work? Oct 24 13:53:18 the one at home went poof Oct 24 13:53:23 hence, from work now Oct 24 13:53:39 hm time to study the LSA? Oct 24 13:53:48 ups SLA Oct 24 14:05:27 jo koen Oct 24 14:05:35 hey woglinde Oct 24 14:06:01 'night guys Oct 24 14:06:33 night bernado Oct 24 14:11:17 * france is back (gone 13:18:53) Oct 24 14:11:56 hi france Oct 24 14:12:14 woglinde: helo Oct 24 14:12:17 woglinde: hello Oct 24 14:30:10 * france is away: Away Oct 24 14:31:47 Can anyone here confirm that OE generates valid jffs2 images that work without error on akita? Oct 24 14:35:14 RP: I would if I could get past the libtool errors I'm getting building a few packages... Oct 24 14:35:38 Bernardo: So you've never used an OE image on akita? Oct 24 14:37:31 only CoreDump's hentge roms Oct 24 14:37:44 and a pre-monotone version Oct 24 14:38:00 the one I sent the photos to mickeyl Oct 24 14:38:18 it was some time ago... :) Oct 24 14:38:25 hm a new try with uclibc on the simpad Oct 24 14:43:19 Bernardo: I'm just trying to work out the problem with the 2.6 kernel. I need some way to narrow down where the fault is... Oct 24 14:44:42 RP: can I test anything for you? Do you have a 2.4 kernel based image? Oct 24 14:53:18 'night, have to go now Oct 24 15:39:53 heh Oct 24 15:40:04 > Incidentally OE has safeguards that warn you if the kernel is too big... Oct 24 15:40:04 I should really learn how to use that framework... Oct 24 15:40:07 ibot lart maemo Oct 24 15:40:07 * ibot --purges maemo Oct 24 15:40:11 haha Oct 24 15:41:06 whew, home now Oct 24 15:59:52 CosmicPenguin: We'll convince him eventually :) Oct 24 16:01:24 Heh - he'll expose our weaknesses quite quickly Oct 24 16:02:45 True enough. He'd fine OE very useful for what he's doing though... Oct 24 16:03:15 no doubt Oct 24 18:12:43 * france is back (gone 03:42:32) Oct 24 19:13:37 this has probably been asked a million times but can someone tell me where oe.handhelds.org went? Oct 24 19:18:25 hello? Oct 24 19:43:15 anyone know if app level bugs should be reported in oe bug tracker? Oct 24 19:43:21 like for instance, gaim has incorrect tabs Oct 24 23:11:39 Good morning everyone! can any of you tell me the IP of cvs.handhelds.org ? Oct 24 23:12:42 toedler: are you running your own caching dns server? Oct 24 23:13:10 no, but i'm behind some caching servers Oct 24 23:13:30 you should have them clear the cache Oct 24 23:13:38 can you tell me a nameserver that knows it ? Oct 24 23:13:49 128.31.0.21 Oct 24 23:14:06 thank you. Oct 24 23:14:34 welcome Oct 24 23:33:49 hi Oct 24 23:35:02 getting wifi/wep connected here is a pita... 3 minutes to obtain lease from dhcp.... Oct 25 00:10:42 mornin zecke Oct 25 00:10:49 moin Oct 25 00:11:56 anything cool in opie? Oct 25 00:13:00 ggilbert: OpenSync announcement and bluelightning working on a Opie Plugin Oct 25 00:13:13 cool Oct 25 00:13:31 morning ! Oct 25 00:14:10 ggilbert: and hrw is doing plishing and a note application Oct 25 00:14:24 ggilbert: and I'm quite busy with this term Oct 25 00:14:34 and I need to hurry torwads uni now Oct 25 00:15:20 e i don't understand how to pull the new oz/familiar branch. Anyone can give me the monotone command, please ? Oct 25 00:15:28 How's your health doing? Oct 25 00:17:28 ggilbert: is it me you are asking ? well, i'm fine... but i guess the question is for zecke ;) Oct 25 00:18:13 Well I meant zecke Oct 25 00:18:23 But I'm glad you're well Oct 25 00:18:28 hehe Oct 25 00:25:46 hi ggilbert Oct 25 00:44:49 morning Oct 25 00:45:50 ggilbert: monotone pull SERVER org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Oct 25 00:46:07 asssdw? Oct 25 00:46:35 morning hrw|work Oct 25 00:47:00 ops. Oct 25 00:47:03 alan|home: monotone pull SERVER org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Oct 25 00:48:24 thanks hrw|work... i thought this was what i did... Oct 25 00:56:11 strange... it is what i did, but it didn't work last time... Oct 25 01:02:10 morning Oct 25 01:06:05 hi XorA Oct 25 01:07:54 * france is away: Away Oct 25 01:08:49 morning all Oct 25 01:40:20 hi koen Oct 25 01:41:03 hey hrw|work Oct 25 01:41:38 koen: kick the baby ;) Oct 25 01:42:17 * koen_ kicks it Oct 25 01:44:16 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r361ee8eb... 10/: Oct 25 01:44:16 samba: fix uclibc builds (struct timespec) in 3.0.20 Oct 25 01:44:16 - configure.in has an AC_TRY_COMPILE check for the existence of Oct 25 01:44:16 - struct timespec which fails on uclibc even though struct timespec is Oct 25 01:44:16 - defined, this causes the build to fail. Fix by supplying a cached Oct 25 01:44:17 - 'yes' value in all cases. Oct 25 01:44:20 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rcb5dc9f4... 10/: Oct 25 01:44:21 ucslugc: reintroduce support for UCSLUGC_* names in parallel with NSLU2_* (all versions) Oct 25 01:44:23 - the old name form was removed accidentally, reintroduced the original Oct 25 01:44:26 - names to support existing ucslugc local.conf files. Oct 25 01:44:27 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rc1622bb4... 10/: Oct 25 01:44:29 openslug: move to new configuration file organisation, use IAL 2.0, remove zImage (all versions) Oct 25 01:44:32 - configuration changes plus a move to use IAL 2.0 for the ethernet Oct 25 01:44:33 - support and to remove zImage from the default rootfs. This makes Oct 25 01:44:35 - a lot more space (now around 1MByte) available in the rootfs. Oct 25 01:57:10 heh.. nano 1.2.5 need more work to get it in OE Oct 25 01:57:41 vim is better anyway :) Oct 25 01:58:09 yes Oct 25 01:58:21 I dont use nano - just saw that new verson is available Oct 25 01:58:40 anyway will fix 1.2.1 src_uri and update 1.3.5 to 1.3.9 Oct 25 02:01:22 done Oct 25 02:02:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1b69a3e7... 10/: nano: upgraded development version to 1.3.9 Oct 25 02:02:08 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r16aa4270... 10/: nano: fixed SRC_URI for 1.2.1 release Oct 25 02:08:53 hi,RP Oct 25 02:10:05 I am build one kernel ,does it support initrd ?(oz-3.5.4 | kernel 2.6.14)? Oct 25 02:11:05 dunky: The Zaurus kernels generally boot straight from the root partition Oct 25 02:11:47 RP: if I wanna a bootsplash ,what shall I do ? thank you Oct 25 02:12:58 dunky: Enabling the elpp patch is probably easiest. For hints on how to do it look at the kernel .inc file Oct 25 02:14:16 dunky: Or add usplash to OE :) Oct 25 02:15:04 or use gpe-bootsplash Oct 25 02:15:27 which one is easiest about what you said.? Oct 25 02:19:28 koen:whether gpe-bootsplash same as bootsplash? Oct 25 02:19:56 gpe-bootsplash takes a png or svg and displays that during boot Oct 25 02:20:18 koen: does gpe-bootsplash depend on gpe ? or fb Oct 25 02:20:19 Hi everyone! can you tell me where to find the script to generate a Packages.gz after building some packages? Oct 25 02:20:40 toedler: rebuild any image or use ipkg-make-index Oct 25 02:20:43 AvengerMoJo: only on libsvg and the framebuffer Oct 25 02:20:50 thank you. Oct 25 02:20:59 koen: libsvg and libpng rather? Oct 25 02:21:06 koen: hum Oct 25 02:21:13 hrw|work: yes :) Oct 25 02:22:03 'cvs add -kb' should die Oct 25 02:23:20 we support using misc CVSDATE in SRC_URI? Oct 25 02:28:38 NOTE: package opie-notes-0.3-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 25 02:32:13 koen: what about elpp I couldn't get much info on that Oct 25 02:32:34 that's a kernel patch Oct 25 02:32:43 mickeyl is the person who knows about that Oct 25 02:33:18 I see Oct 25 02:33:24 what is elpp stand for? Oct 25 02:33:46 Enh Linux Progress Patch? Oct 25 02:34:03 Enh... ok Oct 25 02:34:10 thanks :P Oct 25 02:34:10 ehanced Oct 25 02:34:20 enhanced even Oct 25 02:34:59 hehe :) Oct 25 02:35:19 RP: you get the progress on the sound driver? Oct 25 02:35:36 AvengerMoJo: For which device? Oct 25 02:35:53 I keep thinking you are only working on the 2.6 for splitz Oct 25 02:36:03 hehe :) maybe I'm wrong hehe Oct 25 02:36:32 sorry didn't get much time to report the USB host driver issue either Oct 25 02:36:43 I work on corgi, shepherd, husky, akita, borzoi and sometimes spitz ;-) Oct 25 02:36:47 after sleep usb-host on splitz will die Oct 25 02:36:51 hehe :P Oct 25 02:37:01 RP: forgot about boxer ;) Oct 25 02:37:19 RP: have you seen that issue? Oct 25 02:37:25 or just me ? Oct 25 02:37:28 hrw|work: true. It could be argued I also work on collie and poodle too :) Oct 25 02:37:38 AvengerMoJo: What kind of device did you have plugged in? Oct 25 02:37:45 C3000 Oct 25 02:37:57 AvengerMoJo: Into the usb host? Oct 25 02:38:05 oh no camera Oct 25 02:38:12 RP: in other words - on all OE supported zauruses (and hx2750) Oct 25 02:38:48 also is there a way to just upgrading the Kernel? Oct 25 02:38:52 AvengerMoJo: I did try suspend/resume and had mixed results with usb storage. Its not top of my list of things to fix atm to be honest Oct 25 02:39:14 AvengerMoJo: Yes, just put the kernel and the updater.sh on the flash card - no initrd.bin/hdimage1.tgz Oct 25 02:39:27 RP: thanks Oct 25 02:39:54 but if I need kernel drivers... then I can to copy to the host before hand right? Oct 25 02:40:04 AvengerMoJo: On the sound issue, I have ALSA working for the c7x0. This means cxx00 is close Oct 25 02:40:17 RP: wonderful Oct 25 02:40:20 RP: you said some magic words :-D Oct 25 02:40:44 XorA: :) Oct 25 02:41:12 XorA: It has power usage problems at the moment but it does play audio and is lovely neat code... Oct 25 02:41:20 RP: wicked Oct 25 02:41:23 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8f2796ff... 10/: Oct 25 02:41:23 opie-notes: added version 0.3 and CVS Oct 25 02:41:23 - this is OPIE application but will get own version numbers Oct 25 02:41:30 RP: cant wait until you get it into OZ kernel Oct 25 02:41:39 Tada! finally my own application in OE Oct 25 02:41:49 hrw|work: congrats Oct 25 02:41:50 hrw|work: congrats :) Oct 25 02:41:57 hehe :) hrw|work what is that Oct 25 02:42:23 AvengerMoJo: its noteZ moved into OPIE Pim API Oct 25 02:42:34 cool Oct 25 02:42:43 XorA: Coming to the dev kernel very soon, once I tidy up some code... Oct 25 02:42:47 morning all Oct 25 02:42:49 will add it into 3.5.3 upgrades soon Oct 25 02:43:28 RP: so OE direction is not going to use bootsplash but the qpe-bootsplash? Oct 25 02:43:39 AvengerMoJo: s/qpe/gpe Oct 25 02:43:48 ops Oct 25 02:43:53 AvengerMoJo: Its an image and distro choice Oct 25 02:43:56 hrw|work: thanks Oct 25 02:44:11 RP: right .. but elpp include the bootsplash patch already? Oct 25 02:44:32 elpp has nothing to do with gpe-bootsplash Oct 25 02:44:41 AvengerMoJo: elpp is bootsplash in kernel Oct 25 02:45:00 AvengerMoJo: gpe-bootsplash is bootsplash in userspace (and is better way of doing bootsplash imho) Oct 25 02:45:11 hrw|work: hum .. Oct 25 02:45:24 OE needs a bootsplash that a) does not require a kernelpatch b) supports animation c) doesn't require a ton of libs Oct 25 02:45:28 hrw|work: I will try that Oct 25 02:45:47 koen: usplash? :) Oct 25 02:45:57 usplash ... Oct 25 02:45:59 RP: needs directfb afaik Oct 25 02:46:43 mickeyl and I looked at that and didn't like it Oct 25 02:47:00 RP: is directfb have splitz supported? Oct 25 02:48:56 koen: I think it uses bogl now Oct 25 02:50:17 hum Oct 25 02:50:48 ouch Oct 25 02:50:56 libbogl + bterm is 300k Oct 25 02:52:25 koen: I've not compiled it but the bogl source is built into usplash and the source doesn't look that big. One way to find out I guess... Oct 25 02:52:38 indeed **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 25 02:59:58 2005