**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 28 02:59:59 2005 Oct 28 03:08:35 ~curse monotone log Oct 28 03:08:37 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, monotone log ! Oct 28 03:08:44 Options specific to 'monotone log': Oct 28 03:08:44 -r, --revision=STRING select revision id for operation Oct 28 03:08:59 "mt log --revision d5f672b215553b0622c8ee9a8ee627e900ab92e4" gives everything anyway Oct 28 03:18:17 hrw|work: yes Oct 28 03:18:50 Just sent a mail to LKML about the akita code. Merging in Liam's new code is next Oct 28 03:26:21 koen: any news about gnumeric & OpenDocument? Oct 28 03:26:35 not that I know off Oct 28 03:26:47 I only get .xls files over here Oct 28 03:26:54 or .csv Oct 28 03:32:27 Hello, I am trying to compile my own kernel for a h2200, but I am having a few questions. Should I use oe or a normal toolchain to compile the kernel ? Oct 28 03:32:45 OE Oct 28 03:33:06 oho: only zaurus 2.4 kernels need toolchain from outside of OE Oct 28 03:34:55 hrw|work: thank you. I will try it with setting S = in the bb file to my kernel Oct 28 03:40:51 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15760 Oct 28 03:51:35 hrw|work: cool Oct 28 03:51:44 hrw|work: and make OE query that db on build :) Oct 28 03:52:15 now I have to project database for it Oct 28 03:52:30 and searching for a tool to do it (other then sheet of paper) Oct 28 03:53:10 suggestions? Oct 28 03:53:29 LAMP? Oct 28 03:53:59 famp rather Oct 28 03:54:41 and by tool I meant 'tool which I can use to project database' Oct 28 03:57:10 hi alan Oct 28 04:29:51 Hi I'm trying to write a better manual about OpenEmbedded and BitBake and have some questions about the tools the system is needing Oct 28 04:30:06 Can somebody answere some questions? Oct 28 04:30:53 sure Oct 28 04:30:56 just ask Oct 28 04:31:58 Okay for what the system is using GNU path and why does it need at least version 2.3.0 ? Oct 28 04:32:15 patch? Oct 28 04:32:56 Yes Patch Oct 28 04:32:57 sorry Oct 28 04:33:40 OE uses that to apply patches, and I guess quilt and patcher use some fancy features only found in newer features Oct 28 04:34:34 morning Oct 28 04:36:40 hey alan|home Oct 28 04:37:05 hi alan|home Oct 28 04:37:42 Is Pyhton just be used to run bitbake or also for some other things? Oct 28 04:38:41 .bb files can contain python to do stuff Oct 28 04:39:09 but I don't know if python get's called directly or via bitbake Oct 28 04:40:31 For what GNU m4 is need? Oct 28 04:42:11 Cobelius: for autoconf and friends Oct 28 04:44:44 Which is the minimal Version? Oct 28 04:48:16 no idea Oct 28 04:50:39 could somebody remind me how to get a fresh OE feed? openembedded.org seems to be down and I only can remember how to update a feed ;(. Basicaly, what command shell I issue after monotone --db=$FEED.db pull monotone.vanille.de $FEED ? to get a fresh $FEED? Oct 28 04:51:23 feed? Oct 28 04:51:42 see http://venge.net/monotone/monotone.html Oct 28 04:51:49 koen, maybe a call it wrong.. Oct 28 04:52:12 or open http://monotone.vanille.de/ in a browser Oct 28 04:54:01 gah. transflash cards are so fiddly. Oct 28 04:54:18 koen, thanks! That was the command I needed: monotone --db=org.openembedded.oz354fam083.db co --branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Oct 28 04:54:45 you can have multiple branches in one .db Oct 28 04:55:39 koen, about the terminology: org.openembedded.oz354fam083.db - is database and org.openembedded.oz354fam083 is a branch (not feed) right? Oct 28 04:56:15 a .db is a database and org.openembedded.* are branches Oct 28 04:58:17 Which is the minimal Version of CVS which I have to use? Oct 28 04:59:01 The one from debian stable should be fine Oct 28 04:59:30 koen, I did not know I can have several branches in one db - this is convenient... Oct 28 05:01:33 Is monotone only be used to download and upadte my OpenEmbedded stuff or is it also be used do download sourcecode for the build process? Oct 28 05:03:43 only for OE Oct 28 05:08:14 And 0.20 is the minimal version, isn't it? Oct 28 05:08:27 yes Oct 28 05:08:59 Is subversion only be used for the BitBake download or also for Source codes? Oct 28 05:10:17 it's also used for some sources Oct 28 05:11:59 Do you know which Version I minimal need? Oct 28 05:15:30 the one from debian stable should do Oct 28 05:18:18 hey Oct 28 05:18:41 hey zecke Oct 28 05:18:53 hi zecke Oct 28 05:20:41 Is Psyco only be used the ehance the speed of bitbake? Oct 28 05:22:05 yes Oct 28 05:25:40 For what Perl is need? Oct 28 05:26:36 Cobelius: what perl-native? Oct 28 05:26:42 Cobelius: for packages depending on perl-native Oct 28 05:27:57 So it just for dependencies during de build process or ist bitbake using it itself to execute code? Oct 28 05:29:55 Cobelius: luckily it is not using perl Oct 28 05:30:20 So only for dependencies? Oct 28 05:30:24 yes Oct 28 05:30:43 bitbake is written in python, no need to use perl Oct 28 05:31:30 Okay Oct 28 05:31:46 Is something known about an exact Version Number of Perl? Oct 28 05:32:00 Or does it depends on the Source Codes i wanna compile? Oct 28 05:32:33 it will build it's own perl Oct 28 05:37:26 Is it better to use Jade or OpenJade? Oct 28 05:37:39 should I install both? Oct 28 05:46:08 Cobelius: for generating the bitbake docu? Oct 28 05:47:38 I dont' know does when is Jade or OpenJade need. During the build process or also elsewhere? Oct 28 05:50:38 Ohh sorry again: Oct 28 05:51:09 When does BitBake need Jade or OpenJade? During the build process or does it need it somewhere else? Oct 28 05:52:21 Cobelius: dunno, for what should it need OpenJade? Oct 28 05:53:59 Can I ask you the question in German? Oct 28 05:54:25 Cobelius: why? Oct 28 05:54:50 Cobelius: if you can not resist do so Oct 28 05:57:09 Meine Frage war eigentlich nur, für was braucht BitBake Jade oder OpenJade und welches von beiden braucht es. Oct 28 06:01:20 could some one please tell me what to put into a .bb file inorder to make custom build kernels. I read the wiki and changed "S =" to the location where the kernel source is, but it still doesn't work. When I do a make it compiles fine, just not with bitbake Oct 28 06:02:30 re Oct 28 06:07:27 For what GNU sed is used? Oct 28 06:07:39 Is it only used during the build process? Oct 28 06:11:15 Cobelius: depends - some recipes need it Oct 28 06:11:56 What are recipies? Oct 28 06:12:05 are these the .bb files? Oct 28 06:28:21 Hmm. New alsa SoC code is some steps forward and some back :-/ Oct 28 06:29:06 RP: sounds like some good old country dancing Oct 28 06:32:16 I've applied it to the dev branch Oct 28 06:33:12 Some applications set the sample rate, then change it. The driver will continue to use the first sample rate. You can change this with devmem2 0x40400060 w 0xsomenumber... Oct 28 06:33:38 Or you can enjoy whale music instead :) Oct 28 06:34:23 Its quite theraputic :) Oct 28 06:34:38 you speak whale too? Oct 28 06:44:43 Is there a good history page about the OpenEmbedded Project in the web? Oct 28 06:45:27 maybe mickeyl's newsletters on ooenzaurus.org Oct 28 06:47:02 okay Oct 28 06:47:04 thank you Oct 28 06:47:53 openzaurus.org, that is Oct 28 06:49:47 koen|770: What are you using for input on the 770 out of interest? on screen keyboard or a BT one? Oct 28 06:50:10 osk Oct 28 06:50:22 koen|770: ok, just curious :) Oct 28 06:51:33 when i have some extra money i'll buy a bt kb :) Oct 28 06:52:01 when building my own kernel with OE, how do I tell it to use my kernel config file ? Oct 28 06:55:38 oho - after configuring the kernel, copy your .config as the 'defconfig' file within the kernel package directory Oct 28 06:57:18 dwildes: by defconfig, do you mean ipaqpxa_defconfig ? Oct 28 06:57:33 Was OpenZaurus integrated into OpenEmbedded or was OpenEmbedded developed for OpenZaurus? Oct 28 06:58:09 Cobelius: OE was developed as replacement for OZ buildroot Oct 28 06:58:22 hrw thank you Oct 28 06:58:54 oho - I was talking about the /org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/---your kernel--/defconfig Oct 28 06:59:01 for me with X86 - it's: Oct 28 06:59:03 org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-x86-2.6.11.6 Oct 28 06:59:04 Cobelius: during OE development several targets was added before first OZ based on OE was released Oct 28 06:59:50 dwildes: ah ok - thank you. I will have a look at it Oct 28 07:00:14 oho - but check your kernel .bb file - it should have an option in the 'do_configure_prepend' where it shows it copy the 'defconfig' to the .config for the kernel compile Oct 28 07:00:18 you're welcome Oct 28 07:00:56 Cobelius: where you will publish results? Oct 28 07:04:05 I'll hope I'll can do this on the openembedded homepage Oct 28 07:04:11 when it will be finished Oct 28 07:06:17 But it's currently written in German. My English is not so good to write the whole stuff in English Oct 28 07:09:02 ok Oct 28 07:10:44 I hope I'll find somebody who will translate it Oct 28 07:14:30 dwildes: I have copied my config manually to .config --- in that case would you say that http://pastebin.ca/26921 is correct ? I don't fully understand what ipaqpxa_defconfig is. Is that the config which has the settings for the handhelds ? If I have custom kernel config do I not need ipaqpxa_defconfig ? Oct 28 07:18:41 Not sure about ipaqxa stuff, I only deal with X86 Oct 28 07:19:09 ah ok - thank you. Oct 28 07:19:20 but the .bb synatax for the x86 kernel for putting your own .config is done by replacing the 'defconfig' as shown in the .bb Oct 28 07:19:21 do_configure_prepend() { Oct 28 07:19:22 install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/defconfig ${S}/.config Oct 28 07:19:22 } Oct 28 07:19:47 hey mickeyl Oct 28 07:19:53 I don't 'think' yours will work because you are doing it during configure - and not before Oct 28 07:20:40 dwildes: I will try it just with .config, as this is the one I copied manually Oct 28 07:21:13 currect version od cf database has 43 pcmcia drivers.. Oct 28 07:21:58 could you post the.url somwhere? Oct 28 07:22:19 koen|770: currently it is only sql database Oct 28 07:22:45 hi Oct 28 07:22:48 hi mickeyl Oct 28 07:23:09 mickeyl: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15760 Oct 28 07:23:34 good idea Oct 28 07:33:06 hi mickeyl Oct 28 07:33:47 <_law_> hey Oct 28 07:34:07 <_law_> is it possible to start bitbake from compile stage to end? Oct 28 07:34:26 _law_: -c compile -f Oct 28 07:34:36 <_law_> RP: thanks Oct 28 07:34:36 _law_: then run again to run to the end from compile Oct 28 07:35:26 (the above will just force a recompile but bitbake will realise it needs to run the other tasks again on a subsequent run without options) Oct 28 07:35:36 mickeyl: Did you see the good news re: akita? Oct 28 07:39:02 RP: yeah. congrats! How did you make it? Oct 28 07:39:35 mickeyl: Someone sent me an akita on loan to sort it out :) Oct 28 07:39:48 I've sent it back now as its all done Oct 28 07:40:04 The good news is that the changes should also work for borzoi which is also large page flash Oct 28 07:40:25 excellent! Oct 28 07:40:53 that's the last showstopper for 2.6 on the CXK or is it? Oct 28 07:40:59 and the wm8750 driver is coming along. Nearly compiles... :) Oct 28 07:41:17 CXK just miss use client and sound Oct 28 07:41:23 miss usb-client and sound Oct 28 07:41:53 sound will be sorted soon enough (I know I keep saying that but it will) Oct 28 07:42:24 heh Oct 28 07:43:17 currently I have 516 cards in database Oct 28 07:44:16 I'm really pleased with to have played with an akita - I'm happy its in the same position as spitz now. I've also asked on LKML about the drivers and if they're going to accept them Oct 28 07:45:09 hmm Oct 28 07:45:25 mickeyl: hi Oct 28 07:45:27 you know there's one poor machine that's a bit behind... ;) Oct 28 07:45:30 hi zecke Oct 28 07:45:43 mickeyl: where can I send it to :} Oct 28 07:46:07 mickeyl: Even if we hack some its support, It'd be nice to make it work under 2.6 nicely... Oct 28 07:46:22 Perhaps my akita code will give Dirk some ideas... Oct 28 07:46:34 ~seen do13 Oct 28 07:46:42 do13 was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 32d 1h 30m 22s ago, saying: 'zecke_: To build an opie-image you need this patch http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/defconfig-tosa.patch'. Oct 28 07:47:12 :-/ Oct 28 07:49:27 OT: do the pxa2xx have enough infrastructure to implement something like dynticks here as well? I'd love to get rid of apm... Oct 28 07:50:40 mickeyl: Not sure. I like the pxa's suspend/resume feature. I hate apm though Oct 28 07:51:08 ~lart TT Oct 28 07:51:09 * ibot eats TT's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti Oct 28 07:51:34 heh Oct 28 07:51:52 707 cards in database Oct 28 07:52:58 mickeyl: With the new alsa code we're going to need a userspace daemon to look after it. I'm tempted to compine this with something handling power management and hinge handling amongst other things, kind of like an embedded mini hal Oct 28 07:55:20 RP: Sounds good to me. I've always thought something like ODevice should really be implement more lower level and GUI/language indedependant Oct 28 07:55:31 independent, even Oct 28 07:55:55 Odevice would be the rough basis for it but obviously standalone Oct 28 07:56:27 *nod* with UNIX socket communication facilities and acting as a multiplexer for all the lower level stuff Oct 28 07:56:46 just needs a good API Oct 28 07:56:54 simple, extensible, clear Oct 28 07:57:26 mickeyl: is that middleware? Oct 28 07:57:46 ouch. that hurts ;) Oct 28 07:58:20 the weekend already donated to middleware. i need a small break Oct 28 07:58:47 mickeyl: wtf is middleware, you still owe me an explanation, probably I won't get it today :} Oct 28 07:58:51 * zecke runs Oct 28 07:58:56 *cough* Oct 28 07:58:59 let me quote that sun engineer Oct 28 07:59:12 basically I found 675 cards in our pcmcia configs Oct 28 07:59:22 "middleware is the code that neither the application developers nor the networking guys want to touch" Oct 28 07:59:52 hahaha Oct 28 08:00:34 mickeyl: Exporting an API is the tricky part for me. I can write the interfacing bit easily enough... Oct 28 08:02:43 mickeyl: bäh ;) Oct 28 08:10:58 hrw|work: i wonder how many variants are really produced Oct 28 08:11:10 i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of entries were bogus Oct 28 08:11:15 or duplicated Oct 28 08:13:14 who knows.. Oct 28 08:13:35 It would be interesting to compare this with what's currently in the 2.6 kernel Oct 28 08:21:24 * mickeyl installs xchat on the 770 Oct 28 08:23:00 good afternoon Oct 28 08:23:24 hi Bernardo Oct 28 08:26:48 hi mickeyl Oct 28 08:27:35 http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/show.php - database dump Oct 28 08:27:50 mickeyl: anyone can edit the prerequisites wiki page? For mandriva you need the glibc-static-devel rpm if you're building a 2.6 kernel, should be mentioned there Oct 28 08:29:45 Bernardo, yeah go ahead Oct 28 08:31:16 I only noticed that when I went to check if I had already a akita image with RP's latest kernel Oct 28 08:31:35 Yep Oct 28 08:38:42 mickey770: the front page at oe.handhelds.org still has some refs to openembedded.org, namely the "getting started" link Oct 28 08:39:01 it's been expected that oe.org comes back Oct 28 08:39:07 ah right, i still need to update the dns, dont i Oct 28 08:39:12 ya Oct 28 08:40:11 Does somebody know for what BitBake is using Bison? Oct 28 08:40:29 and wich version is the minimal version i need? Oct 28 08:40:32 bitbake doesnt use bison. perhaps you're thinking of oe. Oct 28 08:41:15 Cobelius: bison.. bbclass or recipe need it Oct 28 08:41:23 Cobelius: bc is needed for zaurus kernels Oct 28 08:41:37 what is bc doing? Oct 28 08:41:43 Cobelius: bitbake only needs python... Oct 28 08:41:46 Cobelius: mem/disk split Oct 28 08:41:52 Cobelius: what is your documentation targeting at? Oct 28 08:41:55 mickeyl: http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/show.php - could you look? Oct 28 08:42:26 ya Oct 28 08:42:34 hrw|work: nice Oct 28 08:42:41 zecke: Installation, how does bitbake work, structure of OE, how make new packages, machine destriptions etc. Oct 28 08:42:50 mickeyl: each header sort Oct 28 08:42:50 hrw|work: could you add a field for physical dimensions...? Oct 28 08:43:12 Cobelius: which people do you target? Oct 28 08:43:15 lardman: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15760 Oct 28 08:43:36 well people like who have to make a solution with OpenEmbedded Oct 28 08:43:37 hrw|work: yep, I voted too ;) Oct 28 08:44:08 lardman: add suggestions there Oct 28 08:44:23 hrw|work: LA4111 Spectrum 24 has three entries Oct 28 08:44:28 hrw|work: nice Oct 28 08:45:16 mickeyl: had Oct 28 08:45:32 Cobelius: did you look at current documentation? Oct 28 08:46:02 hrw|work: the sandisk connect isn't there, only the plus? Oct 28 08:46:02 Cobelius: from where do you pull 'jade', openjade, bison, müsli and why do you think bitbake needs them? Oct 28 08:46:19 Bernardo: adding into database is not yet implemented Oct 28 08:46:20 I looked at the getting started page and at documentation in the wiki Oct 28 08:46:26 and at the required software page Oct 28 08:46:32 Cobelius: the risk for you -as the writer of the Documentation- is, if you confuse BitBake and OpenEmbedded Oct 28 08:46:37 hrw|work: i'll match my other cards (lots of lucent cards, netgear, sandisk) later Oct 28 08:46:39 Cobelius: your readers will confuse it too Oct 28 08:46:40 bbl Oct 28 08:46:47 ahhh okay Oct 28 08:46:49 i c Oct 28 08:47:03 so I should more defferintiate between BitBake and OpenEmbedded Oct 28 08:48:01 Cobelius: well your documentation should be technically accurate and correct Oct 28 08:50:32 Okay I'll keep it in mind a will rewrite the part about the software Oct 28 08:53:11 could some one please help me to figure out what the problem with this error is: pastebin.ca/26927 I get it when I try to bake my own kernel with the following .bb file: pastebin.ca/26928 --- thank you Oct 28 08:56:35 ok. cleaned a bit more Oct 28 09:01:45 Thank you for your help and bye Oct 28 09:03:13 or could some one please give me the .bb file they are using to create custome kernels Oct 28 09:03:55 oho: linux-epia? Oct 28 09:05:24 hrw: sorry I don't know what linux-epia is --- is that part of the output ? Oct 28 09:06:05 I am just googeling for it Oct 28 09:06:32 hrw|work | RP: is cpufreq in the dev kernel for c7x0 not (rc4) ? Oct 28 09:06:39 s/not/now Oct 28 09:07:04 hrw: the kernel I try to compile is for a hp 2200 ipaq Oct 28 09:07:05 lardman: Its in the dev kernel which is the rc4 one Oct 28 09:07:33 RP: cool, I was just looking at the defconfig and saw the entries in there already, I'll remove my patch addition to the .bb Oct 28 09:08:15 Yes, I added it to the defconfig Oct 28 09:08:40 RP: and the patch is either in mainline or included in another of your patches? Oct 28 09:09:13 RP: ignore me, I see it in there Oct 28 09:09:27 lardman: I added the patch to my archive of them so I can track revisions Oct 28 09:09:38 oho: does not h2200 included already? Oct 28 09:10:09 RP: that's fine, I'm happy it's in the build, saves me having to fiddle with the files everytime I update ;) Oct 28 09:10:42 hrw: h2200 is included in the oe environment Oct 28 09:11:37 hrw: the thing I don't understand it that when I build the kernel manually using a toolchain it compiles, but under oe I get all these errors Oct 28 09:12:51 bad luck Oct 28 09:13:31 fair enough, but these errors must have a cause or not ? Oct 28 09:15:43 cu Oct 28 09:16:34 oho, what errors are you getting under oe? Oct 28 09:17:25 LoDown: http://pastebin.ca/26927 Oct 28 09:21:46 one of the errors is that arm-linux-depmod: command not found , but I thought oe is providing all the tools it needs !? Oct 28 09:22:14 If I want to submit a bug about a patch, should I add a patch for a patch to the bugtracker, or just a fixed patch? Oct 28 09:23:27 bug 422 this is - the patch itself is very short, but I have a patch for the patch is needs be Oct 28 09:23:45 sweet Oct 28 09:23:51 my bugzilla plugin works Oct 28 09:26:46 lardman: doesn't that break 2.4? Oct 28 09:30:18 oho: stop using your own packages Oct 28 09:30:24 oho: the h2200 build works out of the box Oct 28 09:31:00 oho: don't say 'the kernel' when you mean 'something I hacked up' Oct 28 09:33:46 koen: all I have done is a few changes to the kernel config file, as there are a few problems with my wifi card and I tried to take all the other network adapters out in order to see if I can get it to work --- therefore I would argue it is not really a hack Oct 28 09:34:13 wifi modules are built outside the kernel Oct 28 09:34:36 koen: hmm, might do, however last time I looked at least one of the 2.4 kernel modules had a different name anyway (sl811_cs.o not hc_sl811_cs.o afaicr) Oct 28 09:34:37 koen: but I thought I can compile them into the kernel or not ? Oct 28 09:34:59 2.6.14 is out. Two weeks or merging start now :-/ Oct 28 09:35:02 lardman: yes, and that patch changes the names :) Oct 28 09:35:39 koen: Yes, it does change the names, but 2.4 would have been broken anyway - I'll have to patch cfu1 to rename the modules to the same as 2.6 uses Oct 28 09:37:19 lardman: why would 2.4 be broken? Oct 28 09:37:19 bluelightning and I fixed that a few months ago Oct 28 09:40:31 koen: No idea, but it appears that 2.4 should produce two modules - sl811_cs.o and hc_sl811.o, this is not what the patch tells the pcmcia subsystem to load even before my patch Oct 28 09:40:42 oho: cpufreq on h2200 will work properly as long as you don't load any of the drivers that use its HAMCOP ASIC. More work needs to be done to get those to adjust their clocks when cpufreq changes the PXA's clock Oct 28 09:42:03 koen: I may be mistaken though, I've not run 2.4 for a long while now, and someone else may have altered cfu1.bb Oct 28 09:42:21 it's builtin in 2.4 for familiar Oct 28 09:42:32 ehm Oct 28 09:42:39 the kernel generates the modules Oct 28 09:45:01 mreimer: I try to use the hostap_cs module, I am not sure if this is one of the ones you mean Oct 28 09:45:29 koen: For the Zaurus it's not built in, and is provided by packages/cfu1, therefore whichever way we look at it, there's an incompatibility# Oct 28 09:46:11 oho: oops, l think I misread. sorry for being irrelevant Oct 28 09:47:15 koen: I've no idea how to handle conditional patching, anyone? I would however be tempted to adopt the naming scheme used by the 2.6. kernels as that's the way things will go for everyone eventually Oct 28 09:48:31 'eventually' Oct 28 09:48:49 well it's broken for me at the moment whichever kernel version I run Oct 28 09:49:09 it works for all ipaqs supported by familiar :) Oct 28 09:50:06 Even those running the 2.6 kernels...? Oct 28 09:50:19 you could do SRC_URI_append_openzaurus=" " Oct 28 09:50:35 there aren't any 2.6 ipaq supported by familiar yet Oct 28 09:53:14 though h2200 is this close: >< Oct 28 09:53:23 When was the patch added to pcmcia-cs, it worked fine when I last ran OZ with a 2.4 kernel using a separate /etc/pcmcia/cfu1.conf file), therefore cfu1 was broken by the change unless the separate conf takes precedence? ;) Oct 28 09:55:16 Does the SRC_URI_openzaurus thing work with a version number too? Oct 28 09:55:37 not that I know off Oct 28 09:55:46 only DISTRO is in overriders Oct 28 09:56:09 Not to worry, there aren't many people with a ratoc card, I'm sure they'll survive Oct 28 10:04:44 ~ewi Oct 28 10:04:47 hmm... ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Oct 28 10:16:36 have a nice weekend everyone, bye Oct 28 10:39:36 using a standard kernel bb file from oe and not a "hacked" version I get sh: line 1: arm-linux-depmod: command not found and sh: line 1: ipkg-build: command not found - do I have to install the manually ? Oct 28 10:43:42 hi Oct 28 10:43:48 http://www.hrw.one.pl/cf_database/test.php - searching added Oct 28 10:44:49 wow Oct 28 10:44:55 that looks messed up in safari Oct 28 10:45:03 shot? Oct 28 10:51:26 ok. searching funcionality works. Oct 28 10:52:31 now reimplement sorting Oct 28 11:06:28 hi chouimat Oct 28 11:07:02 hi hrw ... I like being my own boss ... I can start late if I want ... Oct 28 11:07:17 more irc channels need short names Oct 28 11:08:07 I need better hosting.. Oct 28 14:44:25 RP: booting into kernel 2.6 now... Oct 28 14:45:12 udev complained of a pre 2.6.12 kernel... maybe the flash didn't go well Oct 28 14:45:39 yep, looks like it didn't flash the correct zImage... :( Oct 28 14:49:43 RP: now I flashed the right one, and it booted with the screen sideways Oct 28 14:50:06 RP: and tons of jfffs2 errors Oct 28 14:50:48 RP: followed by a "kernel panic - not syncing: No init found." Oct 28 14:51:57 RP: any ideas on what next? Oct 28 14:52:41 I'm trying a reflash, but with little hope... Oct 28 14:56:05 RP: no luck. the screen boots in portrait mode instead of landscape, and I get the same kernel panic. I'll try tomorrow again, and do whatever you suggest... Oct 28 17:04:35 hey all! Oct 28 18:32:20 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rd59b05a4... 10/: nslu2-kernel: comment update, no change to 2.6.14 Oct 28 18:37:01 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r5de60fa1... 10/: nslu2-kernel: patch format, nslu2-power now uses ctrl-alt-del in 2.6.14 Oct 28 19:09:59 * france is away: Away Oct 28 19:30:07 night' Oct 29 00:53:26 morning all Oct 29 00:53:43 Bernardo|zzzzz: Was this 2.6.14-rc1 or 2.6.14-rc4? You need -rc4 for akita Oct 29 00:55:25 morning! Oct 29 00:55:53 RP: rc1 - that is the one being built if I specify "kernel=2.6" in local.conf Oct 29 00:56:26 that would explain the problems... Oct 29 00:56:35 Yes. I did say you needed the dev one which -rc4 and has the lower default preference :-/ I guess that's easy to mistake for the dev branch... Oct 29 00:56:54 Locally edit the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to +1 or something... Oct 29 00:57:05 Yes, -rc1 doesn't have the akita patches Oct 29 00:57:11 ok, I'll do that now Oct 29 00:58:47 I'll tell you how it goes after breakfast... Oct 29 00:58:49 :) Oct 29 00:58:54 :) Oct 29 01:08:00 is the nokia770 machine/dist currently suppported in devel? Oct 29 01:10:28 jacques: It works for certain things Oct 29 01:12:54 RP, hi, I'm trying to make a machine/dist for running in the softgun arm emulator, which emulates ARM926-ejs and I noticed the nokia770 was one of the machines that used that toolchain Oct 29 01:13:39 A nokia770 bootstrap-image will probably work then Oct 29 01:13:56 but I'm confused as to whether I need CSL components in the toolchain Oct 29 01:14:27 jacques: I'd say not - use a plain 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 toolchain Oct 29 01:14:57 RP, yeah I think I tried that first but must have done something wrong because I got an error when building glibc (I think) about -mtune=arm926ej-s being invalid Oct 29 01:15:29 I see that as well - I think the correct option depends on the version you're compiling. I just removed the optimisation option Oct 29 01:15:38 RP, OK that's what I hoped - I haven't had good luck with CSL things in the past Oct 29 01:15:58 RP, ah great! that helps Oct 29 01:16:04 Don't use CSL and just remove that optimisation option ;-) Oct 29 01:16:36 thanks Oct 29 01:16:53 BTW I was a bit surprised to see the familiar stuff no longer supported in devel Oct 29 01:17:08 I'm curious what happened there Oct 29 01:17:21 Its just until the release in the branch gets sorted out. A bit misleading really Oct 29 01:17:37 RP, ok cool, nothing sinister then :-) Oct 29 01:17:52 * jacques was worried Oct 29 01:18:36 Nothing to worry about Oct 29 01:18:40 :-D Oct 29 01:21:42 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * r8d8fd891... 10/: ppp-2.4.3: Enable IPv6 support. Oct 29 01:59:59 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * r9117a5cd... 10/: net-snmp: Fix up compilation with uclibc. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 29 03:00:00 2005