**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 31 02:59:56 2005 Oct 31 03:00:33 I'd be happy enough if I had to use force-downgrade. This looks like an ipkg bug though :-/ Oct 31 03:01:02 I'll file a bug report :) Oct 31 03:01:40 RP: yeah I would as that has worked for me before Oct 31 03:03:14 as hrw said before, don't use foo-2.3.4-rc4 but foo-2.3.3-2.3.4-rc Oct 31 03:04:06 koen: I realise that. This doesn't solve the fact that ipkg should downgrade though... Oct 31 03:04:50 the core logic of ipkg says 'newer is better' Oct 31 03:05:01 which is wrong in some cases Oct 31 03:06:28 thank god mplayer isn't part of our core system Oct 31 03:06:49 0.99pre6-alpha4-try5-rc4-prerelease Oct 31 03:07:23 koen: thats why we like mplayer atty :-) Oct 31 03:08:38 the 2.6 cxxxx models also need the apm hack in kdrive Oct 31 03:09:35 koen: but the newer is better logic shouldn't apply with -force-downgrade Oct 31 03:09:53 * koen gets the impression that forums and bugtrackers are mutually exclusive Oct 31 03:10:09 RP: -force-downgrade only applies to the packages you specified Oct 31 03:11:08 a nice way to check is to do a ipkg-make-index -m on your feed and see what's left Oct 31 03:12:18 ipkgs logic is annoying in this case, but the real problem is that the packages are wrongly versioned Oct 31 03:12:54 and OEs habit to say depends: foo >= 2.3.4 Oct 31 03:13:08 instead of depends: foo 2.3.4 Oct 31 03:24:59 morning all Oct 31 03:26:17 morning folks Oct 31 03:26:23 hi katossi , ade|desk Oct 31 04:07:09 LOL Oct 31 04:07:10 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15772&pid=101436&st=0&#entry101436 Oct 31 04:07:22 and what do the pdaX dweeps say? Oct 31 04:07:31 "dog names are too confusing" Oct 31 04:11:28 koen: unbelivable! Oct 31 04:11:55 calling writeable stuff read-only isn;t confusing? Oct 31 04:12:55 The kernel kind of relies on the dog names. I'd like to see a patch removing it :) Oct 31 04:15:44 RP: I'm having problems flashing the akita, I don't get the menu service Oct 31 04:15:53 http://venge.net/monotone/wiki/ProjectsUsingMonotone Oct 31 04:16:14 it seems we have the highest commit rate of all projects Oct 31 04:16:28 RP: could it be that the bettery was completely discharged? I thought that was not important since the flashing is done with power suply connected Oct 31 04:20:12 katossi: It won't boot with a totally discharged battery so yes, you need to charge it Oct 31 04:20:24 thx Oct 31 04:21:06 koen: neat :) Oct 31 04:33:32 RP: I can't boot the 2.6 kernel, I get : Cannot open root device "mtdblock1" Oct 31 04:33:36 is it normal? Oct 31 04:34:01 katossi: It should be opening mtdblock2... Oct 31 04:34:02 maybe I habe wrong stuff in the cache Oct 31 04:34:09 Which kernel is this? Oct 31 04:34:13 2.6.14-rc4? Oct 31 04:34:16 or maybe I changed something Oct 31 04:34:26 rc1 Oct 31 04:34:34 but I just pulled the dev brach Oct 31 04:34:48 You need rc4 - alter its DEFAULT_PREFERENCE Oct 31 04:35:00 where? Oct 31 04:35:15 The dev branch has two kernel versions - stable and unstable. You need the unstable one :) Oct 31 04:35:33 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.14-rc4.bb Oct 31 04:35:33 aha Oct 31 04:35:45 how do I choose the unstable? Oct 31 04:35:50 I'd also track down why its trying mtdblock1 as that is wrong Oct 31 04:40:36 RP: I change the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to 1 Oct 31 04:40:41 is it enough? Oct 31 04:41:15 katossi: Its normally written as "+1" - I know know how pedantic bitbake is Oct 31 04:41:55 katossi: That should be enough to get you a kernel though. I'm still worried about the mtdblock1 problem Oct 31 04:42:09 its working with 1 anyway, but is there any other way to do it? that way is a little bit dirty, I think Oct 31 04:42:35 katossi: You can also list that kernel version as the preferred version Oct 31 04:42:36 RP: maybe it's a file I change dor something, what is the file that says what mtdblock to load? Oct 31 04:43:02 katossi: Its set in linux-openzaurus.inc - have you changed that? Oct 31 04:43:14 I don't remember, but could be Oct 31 04:43:17 let me check it Oct 31 04:44:29 I have a line that says: CMDLINE_ROOT = "root=/dev/mtdblock1 rootfstype=jffs2 " Oct 31 04:44:40 should I change it to mtdblock2? Oct 31 04:45:44 katossi: Yes, becuase that is what my copy says. Please make sure you haven't made any other changes as if you have, I'm not going to try and help... Oct 31 04:46:27 sorry, I think I made that change last time we talked, just in case Oct 31 04:46:37 Is openembedded.org down? Oct 31 04:46:40 That's the only change I remembered Oct 31 04:46:49 run monotone diff and see if anything else is different Oct 31 04:46:54 aha Oct 31 04:46:57 I'll do it Oct 31 04:47:42 lardman|work: use oe.handhelds.org Oct 31 04:47:51 lardman|work: If hh.org works which it doesn't for me Oct 31 04:48:16 RP: dig is happier now that A's been added at least. Oct 31 04:48:27 RP: that was the only change, sorry Oct 31 04:48:51 Noodles: Although it doesn't seem to have made it to here yet :-/ Oct 31 04:49:10 RP: I think I've figured out the dpm problem with the 8750. Looks like VREF and VMID are being powered down. I'll email you a patch to try shortly. Oct 31 04:49:41 lrg: ok, thanks - just replying to your email Oct 31 04:50:08 RP: cheers, oe.handhelds.org works, but openembedded.org doesn't, strange Oct 31 04:50:22 kergoth didn't update the ip Oct 31 04:50:24 lardman|work: kergoth needs to update the DNS Oct 31 04:50:35 ah, okay Oct 31 04:52:25 and hh.org does work from here, finally :) Oct 31 04:54:23 yes, it works from here too Oct 31 05:15:58 how do I overwrite a file with monotone? I mean a file modified by me, and now I want to get the version from the tree Oct 31 05:16:30 monotone revert Oct 31 05:17:22 thx Oct 31 05:50:40 RP: Should "apm -S" suspend a spitz running 2.6.14-rc4? Oct 31 05:51:08 (If not, how should I do so? Hitting the power button doesn't work with GPE it seems.) Oct 31 05:52:50 Noodles: I suspect spitz needs the kdrive apm hack too Oct 31 05:53:32 If I do "apm -s" I get "apm: Device or resource busy". Oct 31 05:53:35 actually any 2.6 device needs the apm hack Oct 31 05:53:56 "apm -S" actually gives "apm: Invalid argument" Oct 31 05:54:09 Noodles: If you log out of gpe it works... Oct 31 05:54:46 The kernel is ok under -rc4 and its gpe related, perhaps with the apm patch koen mentions. I can't remember exactly what that did offhand Oct 31 05:54:47 add SRC_URI_append_spitz = " file://disable-apm.patch;patch=1" and PACKAGE_ARCH_spitz = "spitz" to xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb Oct 31 05:54:54 Log out in what sense? If I log out and get returned to the graphical login screen it still doesn't worry; do you mean leaving it entirely and going back to the command line? Oct 31 05:55:01 s/worry/work/ Oct 31 05:55:04 Noodles: and it's apm -s, not -S Oct 31 05:55:19 I think the power button did work on the login screen for me. Perhaps it doesn't anymore... Oct 31 05:55:33 koen: I tried both; with different errors. I'll try that kdrive hack now. Oct 31 05:55:52 I'd add the kdrive hack - I think this is the two devices listening to apm problem Oct 31 05:56:03 Also is it just me or is the new icon title font far too big? Oct 31 05:56:09 killing apmd might also do the trick :-/ Oct 31 05:56:14 borzoi and akita will probably need it too Oct 31 05:56:34 Noodles: I recently fixed the DPI settings for vga displays Oct 31 05:56:36 My last gpe image looked horribly confused about whether it was running in 320x240 or 640x480 Oct 31 05:56:42 RP: killing apmd will allow suspend, but when it resumes X will crash Oct 31 05:56:55 Noodles: so the fonts now have a 'correct', but too big size Oct 31 05:57:11 Noodles: I'm pestering the gpe people to have a smaller default for large dpi screens Oct 31 05:57:29 koen: Please continue to pester as its unusable as it is... Oct 31 05:57:40 indede Oct 31 05:57:43 indeed* Oct 31 05:57:50 Yeah. xterm seems smaller and the icons are too big now. Oct 31 05:58:08 yeah we dont want pdaXrom to look good compared to us Oct 31 05:58:14 * france is away: Away Oct 31 05:58:29 XorA: anything looks good compared to twm ;) Oct 31 05:58:47 koen: did they dump blackbox while I wasnt looking? Oct 31 05:59:07 if you don't resize your flash, twm is the default Oct 31 06:01:22 koen: they have different images? or it just bugs out to twm? Oct 31 06:01:33 I think the latter Oct 31 06:01:47 hrw tried rc1x a few weeks ago Oct 31 07:18:48 Hi all, Oct 31 07:20:24 still struggling on RPM build. I stripped the problem down to some lines in "package_rpm.bbclass". Can anyone explain the meaning of ... Oct 31 07:20:25 bb.data.setVar('BUILDSPEC', "${RPMBUILD} -bb ${OUTSPECFILE}\n", d) Oct 31 07:20:26 bb.data.setVarFlag('BUILDSPEC', 'func', '1', d) Oct 31 07:20:26 bb.build.exec_func('BUILDSPEC', d) Oct 31 07:21:05 hello Oct 31 07:22:37 uv1: hey Oct 31 07:22:43 uv1: you set a variable Oct 31 07:22:50 uv1: and say that this is a shell function Oct 31 07:23:00 uv1: and then you want to execute that variable Oct 31 07:24:28 zecke: bb.build.exec_func( ... ) fails with the following error. Oct 31 07:24:28 error: line 2: Tag takes single token only: Version : ${@bb.parse.BBHandler.vars_from_file(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d),d)[1] or '1.0'} Oct 31 07:24:54 zecke: What does the "or" mean. I assume, get FILE, ... or take 1.0 ? Oct 31 07:25:51 zecke: Can I somehow print the content of BUILDSPEC out ? Oct 31 07:27:13 Is the bb syntax described somewhere in detail ? Oct 31 07:33:04 zecke: If I print bb.data.getVar( 'BUILDSPEC', d ), I get ${RPMBUILD} -bb ${OUTSPECFILE} Oct 31 07:33:37 Is there a way to get the content of that 2 shell variable printed ? Oct 31 07:35:35 uv1: bb.data.getVar Oct 31 07:35:43 uv1: print bb.data.getVar Oct 31 07:35:59 uv1: lib/bb/data.py for documentation Oct 31 07:37:59 zecke: I expected to find both, ${RPMBUILD} and ${OUTSPECFILE} in temp/run.BUILDSPEC. But there is nothing. Is that OK ? Oct 31 07:41:43 lo, someone tested oz the 3.5.4-rc on the sl-5600 ? Oct 31 07:47:03 hi Oct 31 07:48:29 hi hrw Oct 31 07:49:49 hi Oct 31 07:51:19 oookkk, i'll test it :) Oct 31 07:54:01 in order to compile a kernel for arm with oe, can use bitbake like this : unpack xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12 , go in tmp dir, configure the kernel, then build xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12 ? Oct 31 07:54:33 magnet: normally OE does everything for you Oct 31 07:54:44 magnet: 1st run configure, then edit config then build - if you want to alter OE config Oct 31 07:55:24 Interesting ... In the specfile (line 2) I find "ersion : ${@bb.parse.BBHandler.vars_from_file(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d),d)[1] or'1.0'}". So it Version seems not to be extracted. Any ideas ? Oct 31 07:55:56 koen && hrw thanks I'll try this? Oct 31 07:55:58 -? Oct 31 07:56:21 uv1: as I said yesterday, it is likely that bb.parse.BBHandle does not exist any more :( Oct 31 07:57:46 hmm.. another album released on torrent sites before oficial announcement.. Oct 31 07:58:04 hrw: damn :( Oct 31 07:58:07 zecke: How can I exchange that ? Oct 31 07:59:28 I'm getting some error while trying to configure. Oct 31 07:59:30 http://pastebin.ca/27129 Oct 31 08:01:27 heh.. known error strikes back.. Oct 31 08:06:22 uv1: BBHandler should exist Oct 31 08:07:25 RP: That APM patch didn't seem to help me at all. :( Built a new xserver-kdrive-fbdev, but "apm -s" and pressing the power button still both don't work. Oct 31 08:07:58 Works with gpe-dm stopped though, so it is GPE's fault as you said. Oct 31 08:08:48 zecke: But Version is not set. How can I get the version info from the bb file inside package_rpm.bbclass ? Oct 31 08:10:17 uv1: PV? Oct 31 08:11:33 Noodles: Quick fix might be to switch to a console to suspend (SysRq+R to set rawmode keyboard, Fn+Arrows to change console) Oct 31 08:11:48 hrw: setVar( 'Version', PV, d )? Which is the correct syntax ? Oct 31 08:12:15 uv1: PV-PR would be best Oct 31 08:12:30 uv1: getVar('Version', d) or getVar('PV', d) Oct 31 08:12:40 uv1: SIMPAD_RD = ${@bb.data.getVar("SIMPAD_RAMDISK_SIZE",d,1) or "32"} Oct 31 08:12:50 one of examples Oct 31 08:13:01 hrw: open conf/bitbake.conf Oct 31 08:13:05 and search for PV Oct 31 08:13:42 ok Oct 31 08:13:58 ah. Oct 31 08:14:16 I will go to read something then Oct 31 08:23:35 Still same problem ... Oct 31 08:23:37 fd.write("%s\t: %s\n" % (out_vartranslate[var], bb.data.getVar('PV', d, 1))) Oct 31 08:23:45 Unpacks to ... Oct 31 08:23:53 Version : ${@bb.parse.BBHandler.vars_from_file(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d),d)[1] or'1.0'} Oct 31 08:24:06 What is wrong here ? Oct 31 08:24:36 PV is abviously not set ?! Oct 31 08:25:08 network still hand the system on sl-5600 if a card is inserted and you try to open the network settings :) Oct 31 08:25:13 hand/hang Oct 31 08:25:33 darkschneider: you have correct kernel? not using pxa255 on pxa250? Oct 31 08:26:18 i think not, ther is no more pxa255 in 2.5.4-rc Oct 31 08:26:50 (ops.. sorry bad english, i mean i think i'm suing the right one) Oct 31 08:27:06 it's the same problem 2.5.3 had (2.5.2 did not had it) Oct 31 08:27:50 hrw: anyway if you point me to a kernel you are sure is for 250 i'll reflash it just now and see if problem persists Oct 31 08:28:06 darkschneider: you have 250 in poodle? Oct 31 08:28:14 i think yes Oct 31 08:28:21 quite old poodle Oct 31 08:28:22 darkschneider: look in /proc/cpuinfo Oct 31 08:28:34 yes iknow, wait it was just crahsed :P Oct 31 08:28:38 ok Oct 31 08:28:56 darkschneider: iirc I added poodle250 poodle255 kernel target Oct 31 08:28:57 yes i rember well, i have 250 Oct 31 08:29:29 we should gather all pxa250 chips and BURN them Oct 31 08:29:36 darkschneider: default one is for pxa250 Oct 31 08:29:39 ok i'll set up again by bb to build an image thsi night, currently i'm using the one from site Oct 31 08:29:56 koen: i agree :) but please refurbish my Z :D Oct 31 08:30:21 mine is already refurbished.. but its collie Oct 31 08:30:30 * hrw want sl-a300 Oct 31 08:30:33 collie is lovely Oct 31 08:30:34 there was a company in the US that used to exchange pxa250 chips for pxa255 ones Oct 31 08:30:36 it works :) Oct 31 08:30:43 wow Oct 31 08:31:05 koen: for real or just a joke? (i'm really interested in exchanging my door wheight) Oct 31 08:31:12 for real Oct 31 08:31:23 Jamey has a h3970 ipaq with a 255 Oct 31 08:31:31 hooo Oct 31 08:31:38 put it probably isn't worth the money Oct 31 08:31:52 koen: that guys which add memory to pocketpc machines? Oct 31 08:31:53 depends... at least youget somethginw roking Oct 31 08:32:03 hrw: don't know which company Oct 31 08:32:16 roking/working Oct 31 08:32:18 adding more ram too poodle would make it much faster Oct 31 08:32:22 especially with 2.6 Oct 31 08:32:55 lmbench shows that even with a pxa255 the cache is way too small to be usefull Oct 31 08:33:10 or into corgi Oct 31 08:34:26 indeed Oct 31 08:34:44 corgi is even worse, since 650x480 eats more ram as qvga Oct 31 08:34:50 640* Oct 31 08:35:35 mm it's ages i do not build an image.. commands gone out of my brain swap... Oct 31 08:35:49 bitbake bootstrap-image Oct 31 08:36:36 mm i rembered oemake... that was from ancient times Oct 31 08:41:05 Bad hack, but it works ;-) package_rpm.bbclass is changed to set the Version info in the spec file correctly. linux-header have a rpm file now ;-) Oct 31 08:41:16 Where can I send a patch ? Oct 31 08:41:39 hi Oct 31 08:42:49 mmm opie media player is out of timing... look like a wrong kernel issure Oct 31 08:44:39 darkschneider: you sure that's a kernel issue rather than the standard timing thing with xine? Oct 31 08:45:02 i was just gueessing Oct 31 08:45:22 lardman|work: well standard timing thing with xine == broke oss driver Oct 31 08:45:29 broken even Oct 31 08:45:40 so i'm really unsure, it's the first time that opie media player even play a file on my sl-5600..it never worked Oct 31 08:45:54 zecke: Oh right, I just know that I have to fix it by editing opiexine.conf to change the timing method Oct 31 08:45:54 xine == broken Oct 31 08:45:58 will see with madplay and see if it works Oct 31 08:46:20 lardman|work: explain in more detail : Oct 31 08:46:21 ) Oct 31 08:46:22 darkschneider: Edit opiexine.conf somewhere under ~/Settings, uncomment the sync line Oct 31 08:46:28 oki Oct 31 08:47:15 darkschneider: audio.oss_sync_method:softsync to be exact Oct 31 08:55:54 Just sended a "package_rpm.bbclass" patch to the OE ML. Can someone put that in ? Oct 31 08:56:16 uv1: use bugtracker rather Oct 31 08:56:18 lardman|work: thanks, worked Oct 31 08:56:52 hrw: Will do Oct 31 08:57:05 darkschneider: np Oct 31 08:57:08 uv1: you got native RPM to build? leet Oct 31 08:59:46 hrw: No chance. My ISP did not yet get DNS for hh.org fixed. I cannot reach any of the servers. Oct 31 08:59:58 BTW : Anyone here, how has the same problem ? Oct 31 09:00:16 ISP=1und1:GERMANY Oct 31 09:01:23 uv1: I'm also seeing problems. Things are better than they were as some mail is getting through but its not working for other things :-/ Oct 31 09:01:34 uv1: look in topic - Oct 31 09:01:37 http://bugs.openembedded.org/ Oct 31 09:01:42 its not hh.org Oct 31 09:01:46 uv1: The OE bugtracker isn't related to hh.org though so should still work Oct 31 09:02:06 cu Oct 31 10:22:13 what will the ipkg kernel package do? if I upgrade it Oct 31 10:23:55 not what you want I imagine, but exactly what it will do I don't know Oct 31 10:24:23 hehe :) Oct 31 10:24:39 thanks lardman|busy Oct 31 10:24:51 Bit cryptic hey?! Does it just happen to be in there and you want to upgrade other stuff, it won't upgrade the kernel Oct 31 10:26:03 .... I'm not sure Oct 31 10:26:51 If you're worried about running ipkg upgrade to upgrade something else, then I don't know whether it'll break stuff; it won't upgrade the kernel (not sure about the modules though) Oct 31 10:27:04 hum Oct 31 10:35:10 Right, I think my sowing confusion is done for the day ;) (sorry AvengerMojo), night all Oct 31 10:43:25 uv1: hey Oct 31 10:45:18 zecke: you know .. what happen if I upgrade kernel package? Oct 31 10:45:58 AvengerMoJo: no? in what regard? Oct 31 10:48:25 ... just wonder Oct 31 10:48:52 I just upgrade ... Oct 31 11:18:33 has anybody had jack running on a z or simialr? i note its in the tree, im building a mediaplayer and wonder if its a viable output or whether it muches far to many cpu cycles Oct 31 11:18:45 munches Oct 31 11:27:48 hey woglinde Oct 31 11:28:07 * kergoth fires up a build on his home machine Oct 31 11:28:45 hi kergoth Oct 31 11:28:50 hey Oct 31 11:28:55 long tail you have today Oct 31 11:29:00 hi pb and kergoth Oct 31 11:29:03 hey Oct 31 11:29:53 yeah, seems it has been growing while I slept Oct 31 11:29:54 hi woglinde Oct 31 11:30:06 ah, time to go home Oct 31 11:30:07 later all Oct 31 11:35:48 hi all Oct 31 11:35:49 hey Oct 31 11:36:16 I have installed directfb in my board Oct 31 11:48:37 but I couldn't change rgba parameters Oct 31 11:52:15 Hi all Oct 31 11:52:31 hi. Oct 31 11:52:45 hi do13, hi magnet Oct 31 11:53:19 anyone can help me with directfb Oct 31 11:53:42 I'm new to pdas sorry. Oct 31 11:55:02 duminoco whats the problem? Oct 31 11:55:02 dmunicio: I doubt that anyone here knows enough to help you - you might want to try in #directfb Oct 31 12:07:05 thanks, i will try there Oct 31 12:11:07 the problem is that in fbset, read mode is not enable Oct 31 12:11:18 sorry, i mean enabled Oct 31 12:11:41 so I can't change rgba in the fb mode Oct 31 12:12:17 I would like to do: fbset -rgba 5,5,5,1 Oct 31 12:12:27 but It doesn't work.. Oct 31 12:28:25 what's the IP of cvs.handhelds.org? It doesn't resolv here. Oct 31 12:28:47 ~nslookup handhelds.org Oct 31 12:28:48 handhelds.org is 128.31.0.25 Oct 31 12:29:18 zecke: thanks Oct 31 12:39:01 hi do13 Oct 31 12:39:39 do13: The platform device pm changes have broken tosa a bit for 2.6.14-git3 :-( Oct 31 12:44:34 hi Oct 31 13:14:51 hi RP Oct 31 13:16:40 do13: How's things? Oct 31 13:17:11 RP: Bad news. Haven't touched the kernel since weeks. Oct 31 13:17:56 RP: pm changes. You mentioned the level removal in suspend and resume? Oct 31 13:18:13 do13: :-(. I seem to remember you were having problems with an i2c driver? I think I may have hit a similar problem with akita Oct 31 13:18:40 RP: I2C Reset on resume? Oct 31 13:18:40 do13: Yes, its a good change - suspend/resume functions only get called once now. But it breaks all our external code Oct 31 13:19:02 do13: Your problem was that it should or shouldn't happen? Oct 31 13:19:26 I was planning to try and make the reset conditional on checking the existing status of the I2c driver Oct 31 13:19:37 re Oct 31 13:20:01 My problem was all to do with having gpios accessible via an i2c driver and init order breaking things... Oct 31 13:20:03 hi hrw Oct 31 13:20:11 RP: This should happen on tosa. I was thinking of using the UR- flag Oct 31 13:20:15 hi hrw Oct 31 13:20:35 hmm. 2.6.14-git3 is older then 2.6.14-rc4 ;( ipkg argh.. Oct 31 13:21:00 hrw: I ht this earlier. Its a total mess :-( Oct 31 13:21:17 Sadly, -git3 is the right patch version and -rc4 is in the wrong :-( Oct 31 13:21:39 do13: Also, you might be interested in the SoC sound pactches which are in the tree. I've been working with Liam on them as a solution to our sound problems Oct 31 13:22:35 RP: Yep. Found the SoC patches today in oe. Haven't looked in detail. Oct 31 13:23:08 RP: small edit of ipkg status will make it easy task Oct 31 13:23:23 hrw: :) Oct 31 13:23:23 RP: But pm isn't yet implemented in the WM97xx part Oct 31 13:25:38 do13: Which wm97xx chip is in tosa specifically? Oct 31 13:25:52 RP: WM912 Oct 31 13:25:59 RP: WM9712 Oct 31 13:26:33 There's an SoC driver in there for the wm9713. I wonder how similar they are... Oct 31 13:27:24 RP: The WM9705 driver handles both chips. Oct 31 13:28:54 RP: But in wm9705.c there are no pm functions. Oct 31 13:32:32 do13: Perhaps pm is handled by the core? Oct 31 13:33:01 do13: I hope this doesn't complicate things for you :-/ Oct 31 13:33:23 RP: I was wrong btw; that APM patch does indeed do the trick - I missed that I need -force-reinstall to install the same package again with ipkg (you don't with dpkg). Oct 31 13:33:27 Ta. Oct 31 13:33:46 Noodles: Ah, good Oct 31 13:33:51 RP: Yep the core handles pm, but after that the core calls the pm functions in the chip drivers Oct 31 13:34:13 hmm.. I would work on updating vim in OE but that ~70K patch scares me.. Oct 31 13:34:24 /And/ with the addition of a powered USB hub it seems I can get the Spitz to talk to my USB GPS device, which makes it a viable in car nagivation tool. \o/ Oct 31 13:34:45 RP: several weeks ago liam told me he hasn't finished this part. Oct 31 13:35:04 Noodles: I also have this in mind. Let me know when you work out the software :) Oct 31 13:35:25 do13: I suspect a lot has changed since then... Oct 31 13:35:28 I have gpsdrive compiled up and have also been adding stuff to OpenStreetMap. Oct 31 13:35:47 lrg: Are you around? Oct 31 13:35:55 do13: (lrg = Liam) Oct 31 13:36:05 ~hail lrg then Oct 31 13:36:08 * ibot bows down to lrg then and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Oct 31 13:36:10 Noodles: This is working out of oe now? Oct 31 13:36:26 lrg: Sorry to break your cover ;-) Oct 31 13:36:33 gpsdrive is in OE, compiles cleanly and by and large runs - some issues with the screen being smaller than it expects. Oct 31 13:36:35 RP: Ahh. Oct 31 13:36:48 OpenStreetMap is a mapping project; there's no software using it yet really. Oct 31 13:37:17 Noodles: Which gps daemon were you using? Oct 31 13:37:27 Maps are going to be the tricky bit... Oct 31 13:37:28 Noodles: try using -p, that should enable pda mode Oct 31 13:37:36 Today I used gpsdrive's built in NMEA support. Oct 31 13:37:49 I've had gpsdrive talking to gpsd ok on my laptop though (running Debian). Oct 31 13:37:52 Noodles: roadster might be interesting too to test Oct 31 13:38:41 koen: That's on by default now I think. The status tab is too crowded, but the map/menu tabs are ok. Oct 31 13:39:31 kergoth added vim 6.2 over 2 years ago.. Oct 31 13:40:42 sound/oss/pxa-i2s_corgi.c: In function `corgi_snd_suspend': Oct 31 13:40:42 sound/oss/pxa-i2s_corgi.c:1968: error: `SUSPEND_POWER_DOWN' undeclared (first use in this function) Oct 31 13:40:49 RP: thats 2.6.14-git3 Oct 31 13:41:14 I'm getting error while trying to configure xadandux-ban can someone help me please ? http://pastebin.ca/27129 . Oct 31 13:41:30 RP: http://pastebin.ca/27177 Oct 31 13:41:34 hrw: Ah, I need to update the corgi_snd patch after mainline breakage. I'm tempted just to remove it... Oct 31 13:42:15 magnet: use bitbake -b path/xanadux-ba-2.6.bb -cconfigure Oct 31 13:42:25 oki Oct 31 13:42:31 RP: I will disable oss and build Oct 31 13:43:09 sounds ok Oct 31 13:43:16 thanks Oct 31 13:44:15 yay kernel setup time. Oct 31 13:44:51 hrw: corgi_snd-r12 should fix it - the patch is hand edited though :) Oct 31 13:45:34 RP: ok. will test next time then Oct 31 13:45:58 hrw: I'll test and push if it works Oct 31 13:46:06 That patch's days are numbered though :) Oct 31 13:46:46 Is there any reason for me not to push the Spitz kdrive apm fix to the repo btw? Oct 31 13:48:47 Noodles: Go for it - also apply for akita + borzoi please Oct 31 13:48:59 Sure. Oct 31 13:49:04 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.14-git3-r0: task do_compile: completed Oct 31 13:49:19 Bah. You removed 2.6.14-rc4 out from under me! Oct 31 13:49:42 2.6.14-git3 is much nicer ;-) Oct 31 13:49:55 esp for cxx00 owners Oct 31 13:50:09 stupid question alert: how do I set the timezone in the generic oe dist? Oct 31 13:50:18 In what way? Oct 31 13:50:40 Noodles: try it and spot the difference ;-) Oct 31 13:51:10 let me guess.. sound quite working? Oct 31 13:51:16 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.14-git3-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 31 13:51:53 hrw: You already know the answer and whilst there were sound improvements, nothing totally works yet and its not that Oct 31 13:52:16 Noodles: You could read the changelog but that would spoil the surprise ;-) Oct 31 13:52:21 I'll just bitbake. Oct 31 13:52:23 ah.. yes.. big suprise Oct 31 13:52:33 Am I getting a rotated text console? Go on. Lie to me and tell me it's so. Oct 31 13:52:44 Noodles: no Oct 31 13:53:04 Oh well. Oct 31 13:56:47 my feed had orinoco for 2.6.13-mm1 ;) Oct 31 14:00:04 hrw: A nice piece of history :) Oct 31 14:00:37 yes Oct 31 14:00:48 and a sign that I dont have orinoco powered card Oct 31 14:06:26 Upgrading kernel-module-bnep-2.6 on root from 2.6.13 to 2.6.14-git3-r0... Oct 31 14:06:38 one moment with vi... Oct 31 14:06:47 hrw: I must remember that trick :) Oct 31 14:07:28 RP: needed with any kernel release Oct 31 14:07:35 s/any/each Oct 31 14:09:57 108 reciped to reach 3k Oct 31 14:10:07 atleast here :) Oct 31 14:12:20 16M mmc card has one good usage Oct 31 14:12:45 flashing kernel as it is too small for normal image (so I wont flash by mistake) Oct 31 14:13:05 handy :) Oct 31 14:13:23 RP: did you ever got 'rebooting the system...' stuck in sharp flasher? Oct 31 14:14:43 I took AC off, battery off, battery on and it does not want to start :( Oct 31 14:16:23 wow.. I totaly forgot about D+B emergency shell.. Oct 31 14:19:11 hmm.. sharp like to have 2 cf sockets in each model... on collie it report 2 slots, on husky too Oct 31 14:19:59 2.6.14 kinda rules Oct 31 14:20:02 but.. kinda not Oct 31 14:20:12 doesn't the pxa/sa have 2 slots by default? Oct 31 14:20:23 koen: dont know Oct 31 14:21:31 hm.. I have to check kernelfile.. Oct 31 14:21:44 The processor has support for two slots but they're not always connected Oct 31 14:21:45 * koen merges Oct 31 14:23:05 hmm.. on card I have the same 2.6.14-git3 file as on hdd. but Z does not boot with it Oct 31 14:25:43 RP: ideas? rootfs and /home are ok - I can mount them under 2.4-crappix Oct 31 14:41:12 hrw: I'd better test 2.6.14-git3 on my c7x0 Oct 31 14:41:45 ok Oct 31 14:42:01 RP: I was thinking that you atleast boot it:) Oct 31 14:42:13 hrw: I booted spitz ;-) Oct 31 14:42:33 They share so much of the core... Oct 31 14:43:05 but not so much as it looks Oct 31 14:47:58 re Oct 31 14:47:59 hrw: I see the same thing Oct 31 14:48:16 This is the loader not working though, not the kernel :-( Oct 31 14:48:44 RP: I dont know about kernel internals so for me its kernel Oct 31 14:49:24 hrw: Actually, it is the kernel - gets through the uncompression stage, then hangs Oct 31 14:50:01 ok. Oct 31 14:58:45 hrw: This is going to be a binary search job - find the change that broke it :-( Oct 31 14:59:05 hrw: I'll do it but it could take a while... Oct 31 14:59:50 RP: no problem - I'm working on vim 6.4 now and will go sleep then Oct 31 15:00:00 btw - I need to buy new bed Oct 31 15:00:24 you animal! Oct 31 15:02:46 uf.. Oct 31 15:02:50 NOTE: package vim-6.4-r0: task do_patch: completed Oct 31 15:03:02 >60K patch regenerated Oct 31 15:04:38 NOTE: package vim-6.4-r0: task do_build: completed Oct 31 15:05:18 CosmicPenguin: why animal? Oct 31 15:05:42 hrw: because you broke your bed... :) Oct 31 15:06:27 ah. Oct 31 15:06:37 CosmicPenguin: now I have to order 220cm long one Oct 31 15:15:21 vim-tiny.ipk is not so tiny.. 2.8M Oct 31 15:37:25 -git1 doesn't compile giving a strange error - totally broken Oct 31 15:42:55 vim 6.4 is in OE Oct 31 16:00:23 is there something special to do between 2 builds of the same bb file ? Oct 31 16:01:20 clean? Oct 31 16:02:49 I tried to clean between 2 xanadu-ba build, Oct 31 16:03:12 but on second build it fail telling me 'do_populate_staging':failed. Oct 31 16:03:27 hmmm Oct 31 16:03:35 troble overwriting files in staging? Oct 31 16:03:44 clean won't clean out staging Oct 31 16:03:55 the log is empty, but I think so. Oct 31 16:08:16 RP: No 2.6.14-git3 for me: "FATAL: This kernel is too big for your PXA Zaurus". I'm on my way to bed now so I'll look at it in the morning. Oct 31 16:30:39 Noodles: It works under gcc 3.4.3. I 'm gussing you're using 3.4.4... Oct 31 16:38:20 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc9f27397... 10/: Oct 31 16:38:20 linux-oz-2.6: Upgrade dev kernel to 2.6.14-git3. Add in console rotation patches Oct 31 16:38:20 from Antonino Daplas and enable for spitz, borzoi and akita. Updates to sound Oct 31 16:38:20 codecs. Updates to patches after mainline changes for PM and OHCI/USB PM Oct 31 16:38:20 changes. PXA irda now merged with mainline. Disable elpp patch pending total Oct 31 16:38:21 removal (conflicts with console rotation). tosa and hx2750 broken for now. Oct 31 16:38:24 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * rc6c35eab... 10/: Oct 31 16:38:25 xserver-kdrive: Add apm patch for spitz/akita/borzoi to fix suspend under Oct 31 16:38:27 2.6 kernel. Oct 31 16:38:29 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc8f0cab0... 10/: opie-launcher-settings: fixed SRC_URI to HANDHELDS_CVS Oct 31 16:38:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcadef859... 10/: lots of files: use ${HANDHELDS_CVS} and update bitbake.conf to use anoncvs.handhelds.org Oct 31 16:38:37 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6fca06e2... 10/: opie-mediaplayer1-libmpeg3plugin: fixed SRC_URI to HANDHELDS_CVS Oct 31 16:38:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd5c9b207... 10/: vim: added 6.4 Oct 31 16:38:45 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r405f1ddd... 10/: (log message trimmed) Oct 31 16:38:45 vim 6.4: reorganization and split into more packages Oct 31 16:38:45 - moved common part into vim.inc Oct 31 16:38:45 - new packages: Oct 31 16:38:45 - vim-syntax with /usr/share/vim/vimXX/syntax/ (2.8M) Oct 31 16:38:48 - vim-help with "online" help (4.1M) Oct 31 16:38:50 - vim-tutor (0.6M) Oct 31 17:05:30 hrw|gone: The bug for c7x0 is between 2.6.14 and 2.6.14-git1. Someone's going to have to narrow it down further to find the exact change the broke things Oct 31 18:48:03 * france is back (gone 12:49:48) Oct 31 18:57:40 * france is away: Away Oct 31 19:09:24 crap Oct 31 19:09:35 root@tinman:/var/mail# du -sh /var/mail/oe Oct 31 19:09:35 1.3G /var/mail/oe Oct 31 19:11:03 yikes. time to clean up the mailing lists folder? Oct 31 19:11:31 That's not my oe folder Oct 31 19:12:03 that's spool file for the OE user on my server. Mostly messages from cron Oct 31 19:12:31 ahhh Oct 31 19:13:00 it started hurting when the partion oemirror ran on filled up Oct 31 19:35:50 hey BigAl Oct 31 20:31:12 hi Oct 31 20:32:14 openembedded.org not accessible. nslookup shows following IP for it: 192.58.209.90. Please tell me actual one. Oct 31 20:34:22 You're assuming that's the wrong one? Oct 31 20:37:24 it is. hh.o moved and i havent updated the dns Oct 31 20:37:30 adedov: hop over to oe.handhelds.org Oct 31 20:38:03 lazy bastard Oct 31 20:38:13 yep Oct 31 20:38:44 thanks, oe.handhelds.org works fine Oct 31 20:39:07 np Oct 31 20:40:52 kergoth, how's bb-ng going? Oct 31 20:41:18 heh Oct 31 20:41:36 or are we back to the lazy bastard issue? :p Oct 31 20:58:51 heh Oct 31 20:59:02 6 months without antidepressants is bad, mmk Oct 31 21:11:36 kergoth: :/ Oct 31 21:11:56 6 months without needing antidepressants sounds like it might be good Oct 31 21:12:09 6 months without antidepressants, while needing antidepressants is bad indeed Oct 31 21:12:49 yeah I could see that sucking Oct 31 21:13:59 luckilly I don't need drugs Oct 31 21:14:03 I just need life to stop sucking Oct 31 21:27:55 better than 6mo without antipsychotics though. Oct 31 22:05:36 I tried that Oct 31 22:05:41 now people call me Shirly a lot Oct 31 23:32:37 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r8830982a... 10/: Oct 31 23:32:37 openslug-kernel: remove old revisions 2.6.12.2 2.6.12 2.6.13.2 2.6.14-rc3 2.6.14-rc5 Oct 31 23:32:37 - these revisions are no longer in any build and have no Oct 31 23:32:37 - patches so aren't useful for historical information. Oct 31 23:32:41 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r3ac4779a... 10/: opie-launcher-settings: remove erroneous (typo) line in 1.2.1 Nov 01 01:21:24 RP: I changed the config to not build Akita/Borzoi and it seems to have worked; I'll test it later this morning. Nov 01 01:54:51 morning Nov 01 02:05:59 morning XorA Nov 01 02:06:55 and another spam attack on the wiki.... Nov 01 02:09:50 Noodles: Good move :) Nov 01 02:21:17 RP: so what goodies does new sound update bring? Nov 01 02:26:06 XorA: Which one - git3? Not a lot that's of interest to you yet - basically dpm for wm8731 but I need an update from Liam to finish it off Nov 01 02:26:15 git3 doesn't work on c7x0 either Nov 01 02:26:22 I'm working on that :-/ Nov 01 02:27:32 RP: ah, I wont inatall it then :-D Nov 01 02:28:02 RP: 2.6.14-rc4 still suffer from if you play sound for more than a couple of minutes the whole sound subsystem dies Nov 01 02:33:25 XorA: I've not seen that :-/ Nov 01 02:33:40 XorA: Do you have an error message? Nov 01 02:34:22 RP: gimme a sec Nov 01 02:36:27 infinite repeat of http://pastebin.ca/27259 Nov 01 02:37:21 RP: also module dependency isnt working right yet, i2s stuff isnt insmod before the stuff that needs it Nov 01 02:37:47 XorA: Was this an mp3 player and was it breaking between tracks or something? Nov 01 02:38:02 RP: was mplayer and I had started/stopped it a few times Nov 01 02:39:11 XorA: ok. This is similar to hrw's error - perhaps its related. I'll also think about the i2s issue... Nov 01 02:41:00 is i2s some relation to i2c? Nov 01 02:41:50 i2s is the sound protocol/bus which connects cpu to the codec and transfers the data. The control is done over i2c Nov 01 02:42:17 pxa's can use several different ones - i2c, ac97 or ssp Nov 01 02:42:24 i2s even :) Nov 01 02:45:59 cool Nov 01 02:56:17 mornin' **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 01 03:00:03 2005