**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 05 02:59:57 2005 Nov 05 03:08:46 Oh I see. In 2.4, they created the mapping with tosa.c:tosa_map_io:iotable_init Nov 05 03:09:43 And that mapped the virtual to physical addresses for TC6393 (which I could also find no docs for), two SCOOP2 devices, and Nor Flash. Nov 05 03:10:21 xiaowen: correct. Under 2.6 we use ioremap instead Nov 05 03:11:52 xiaowen: You'll probably find its a PROM, not NOR flash Nov 05 03:12:15 I have no idea. The code says "Nor Flash". Nov 05 03:12:34 xiaowen: On a dev system it would have been but not on the production devices Nov 05 03:13:13 Can you please tell me how you develop? Do you basically write it, then flash it, and see if it works? Nov 05 03:13:32 Do you use any handy tools you can recommend me? Nov 05 03:14:13 xiaowen: Near enough, yes. For what you're doing you can probably write it as a module to save reflashing all the time Nov 05 03:14:23 quilt is the only tool I'd recommend Nov 05 03:18:30 I don't see myself generating enough code any time soon to need a patch manager. -_- Nov 05 03:19:06 <- has been staring at the code all evening and not written a single line. I see this trend continuing for a while hehe. Nov 05 03:20:18 Its useful, even for a single patch. Lets you take you work off one kernel and apply it to another Nov 05 03:23:04 It still creates one direct mapping without ioremap for the boot flash. Why doesn't it use ioremap there? Nov 05 03:26:54 xiaowen: I think it does and that can probably be removed Nov 05 03:27:14 I thought it had been removed actually... Nov 05 03:27:55 I'm looking at linux-openzaurus-2.6.14-rc1-r3, which I built yesterday, with monotone database that I checked out the day before. Nov 05 03:34:00 xiaowen: I suspect 2.6.14-git3 has that removed Nov 05 03:39:07 RP: is 2.6.14-git3 2.6.14 release + patches? Nov 05 03:40:09 it that's the case calling it 2.6.14+git3 might be more OE-like versioning Nov 05 03:40:33 not that it really matters, though Nov 05 03:41:29 koen: 2.6.14-git3 is an official kernel version (from kernel.org) Nov 05 03:41:47 I see Nov 05 03:42:38 hi all ! Nov 05 03:42:52 morning pb_, alan|home Nov 05 03:42:56 hi rp Nov 05 03:43:43 regarding "2.6.14-git3", it is true that this is not a legitimate version string for ipkg, nor really for OE. Neither permits hyphens in the version. Nov 05 03:44:26 Do you know the Mister House project ? I wonder how hard it would be to include it in OE... Nov 05 03:46:28 pb_: A quick glance at the packages/linux directory says we have a big problem then... Nov 05 03:46:49 What should they all be using? Nov 05 03:47:02 Does "I/O memory" just mean that some range of physical addresses can be used by the kernel to access memory on a peripheral? Nov 05 03:48:01 Whereas "I/O ports" is a separate address space that can be mapped to the same virtual address space? Nov 05 03:48:25 RP: pretty much anything else. If you replace the hyphen with a plus sign, or a dot, or nothing, that would be fine. Nov 05 03:48:52 That said, if you aren't currently experiencing any problems, you might as well just leave them alone. I don't expect that either ipkg or OE is likely to start taking a hard line against hyphens in versions any time soon. Nov 05 03:49:11 pb_: Why the problem with hypens in particular if anything else goes? Nov 05 03:49:40 xiaowen: arm doesn't have i/o ports - everything is memory mapped Nov 05 03:49:55 I think hyphens aren't allowed in variable names in variable names in python (my guess). Nov 05 03:50:06 -in variable names Nov 05 03:50:18 RP: because hyphens are the traditional separator between PV and PR. Nov 05 03:50:39 and also, in OE terms, between PN and PV. Nov 05 03:51:43 OK, that makes more sense. :) Nov 05 03:53:00 pb_: ok, that makes a lot of sense. I guess the current implementation must just look for the first and last ones and ignore any in the middle :) Nov 05 03:54:13 RP: yeah, exactly. Nov 05 03:57:07 With our current codebase, it should pretty much work fine. But there may be some corner cases where it doesn't, either now or in the future. Avoiding the use of hyphens will minimize the risk of any unpleasant surprises. Nov 05 03:58:58 It's also worth pointing out that strings like "2.6.14-rc1" are even worse, because both ipkg and oe will sort that as newer than plain "2.6.14". (They will also sort -git as newer, but I guess that's what you want in this case.) Nov 05 03:59:55 Yes, I'm ware of that issue but the hypen makes do difference to that problem. For the next rc's, I'll be using a different form of versioning... Nov 05 04:00:27 pb_: We could also always start to accept hypens in PV only and make sure they get removed from PV strings for processing in ipkg Nov 05 04:02:02 That would be possible, but I'm not sure what it would really buy you. Any kind of version munging like that has the potential to introduce unexpected behaviour in the output packages. Nov 05 04:03:02 * pb_ breakfast time now Nov 05 04:03:03 bbiab Nov 05 04:03:30 It looks like the code doesn't use something like request_region to request iomem resources. Why not? Nov 05 04:03:58 pb_: Everything works as things stand so I'm just saying an alternative would be to accept hypens in PV and just make sure that continues to work. I don't have a strong opinion about it but it just perhaps seems the easier way to move forward :) Nov 05 04:04:04 Out of interest, why the does OE use _ as the separator between PN and PV in .bb file names? Nov 05 04:05:26 Maybe that's only for io ports. Nov 05 04:05:35 xiaowen: I suspect the platform device model might take care of that Nov 05 04:05:54 xiaowen: If you cat /proc/iomem, you can see scoop does get registered Nov 05 04:06:28 Yes, they do. Nov 05 04:10:22 Thank you RP. I'm now going to go to sleep. I shall read the device model chapter first thing tomorrow and then figure out what this platform device model stuff is. Nov 05 04:18:14 that would also mean that foo-1.2+cvs-20051023 isn't correct Nov 05 04:18:22 * koen sees a big cset coming Nov 05 04:19:33 Patch ipkg instead. ;) Nov 05 04:19:51 versioning in OE is a mess regardless of packagemanager :( Nov 05 04:22:36 koen: Agreed. We need to have a policy on this... Nov 05 04:23:19 Personally, I think that policy could say we allow hypens, but we need a policy Nov 05 04:24:18 It needs to cover the preferred version format for cvs and whether svn should be cvs or svn. personally, I think svn should be svn. I also think SVNDATE should start being used Nov 05 04:24:41 Yes, it will cause some short term chaos :-/ Nov 05 04:25:48 could you send a mail to oe@ about that Nov 05 04:26:06 ? Nov 05 04:27:09 koen: will do. Nov 05 04:27:17 thanks Nov 05 04:31:05 ljp: ping Nov 05 04:47:41 koen: mail sent Nov 05 04:49:11 reading it right now Nov 05 04:50:00 RP: no hyphens in PN? Nov 05 04:50:15 what about foo-dev-0.0 ? Nov 05 04:50:23 koen: See my discussion with pb_ Nov 05 04:50:46 ipkg and friends need to be able to tell where pn, pv and pr start/end Nov 05 04:51:25 D'oh Nov 05 04:51:34 You're right though, we have packages with hypens in the name :-/ Nov 05 04:51:39 in foo-dev-0.0 foo is the PN Nov 05 04:52:03 which results in foo-dev_0.0.ipk <- note the underscore Nov 05 04:52:46 So why the problem with hyphens if underscore is the seperator? Nov 05 04:53:30 mreimer_: the buildworld and buildkernel, installworld, installkerne went smooth Nov 05 04:53:41 pb_: help as I'm very confused now... Nov 05 04:54:03 mreimer_: I'm considering going to 7.0-CURRENT Nov 05 05:01:19 koen: I've replied to my own mail addressing this Nov 05 05:04:24 heh, I just pressed send before reading this Nov 05 05:04:53 I agree on most points with your mail Nov 05 05:41:11 do we have a hello.bb file to build the GNU Hello World binary? Nov 05 05:45:20 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * r21d66a92... 10/: petitepainture: add dialogs.patch Nov 05 06:01:58 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re4b00e6f... 10/: opie-console 1.2.1: add missing patches Nov 05 06:11:18 zecke: ping :P Nov 05 06:13:25 hi Twiun Nov 05 06:13:51 hey pb__ Nov 05 06:18:24 hey pb_, what you do for fun? Nov 05 06:21:01 mithro, pb__ sleeps for fun I think - everything waking hour is filled with work :) Nov 05 06:23:20 he he Nov 05 06:23:24 Hey Twiun Nov 05 06:23:29 you still a Java junkie? Nov 05 06:23:38 yup Nov 05 06:31:58 koen: I did not know lorn was subscribed on maemo-dev Nov 05 06:32:17 mithro: hey, get me at 18h (until them my time is scheduled for assignments) Nov 05 06:32:17 * koen knows Nov 05 06:33:05 while I think KDE is a better platform than WIN32, .NET and GNOME I find http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2005-July/000639.html very amusing Nov 05 06:33:59 * koen wouldn't run kde or gnome on a handheld Nov 05 06:34:40 hi to all Nov 05 06:34:48 hey gremlin[it] Nov 05 06:35:01 i have a problem compiling kernel for h3600 usting oe/bitbake Nov 05 06:35:18 The only thing I don't linke about maemo (besides written in C) is I know Nokia is evil. I mean really really evil Nov 05 06:35:26 it remain stucked at 'configure' ... Nov 05 06:35:45 seem it loop forever in 'make oldconfig' or something like Nov 05 06:36:21 hitting Ctrl-C one time i see (forever) all the output 'make oldconfing' do ... hititng again all stop ... ... Nov 05 06:40:02 koen: which bootloader version should one take for flashing the hx4700? Nov 05 06:40:33 the latest Nov 05 06:40:37 1.19 or something Nov 05 06:40:53 koen: but 3.19 > 1.19 ? Nov 05 06:42:01 koen: it doesn't work... Nov 05 06:42:37 when I copy it on sd card and put sdcard into device-> do itask+contacts+restet it ignores the sdcard... Nov 05 06:51:11 koen: do you know what I could have done wrong? Nov 05 06:55:26 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1efac44b... 10/: opie-appearance 1.2.1: add missing patches Nov 05 06:55:30 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf6da0584... 10/: opie backup 1.2.1: add missing patch Nov 05 06:55:35 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rc72c581a... 10/: opie-utton-settings 1.1.1: add missing patch Nov 05 07:35:29 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r12e598df... 10/: familiar 0.8.3: set cvsdate to 20051105 Nov 05 07:55:34 hi Nov 05 07:55:38 so i dont get it ,, now when i want a "uptodate build " i need to rebuild that monotone db , which takes ages , right ? or how do i now keep my oe uptodate ? Nov 05 08:51:28 hi Nov 05 09:29:56 hrw|gone: I'm still trying to pack up kdepimpi-x11. At this stage, I can get it compiled, but I'm not sure what the packing considerations are.. is there a page around that addresses them? Nov 05 09:32:28 mostly the LSB Nov 05 09:33:06 in general: app in ${bindir} and libs in ${libdir} Nov 05 09:35:09 koen: so is it reasonable to pack up all the libs from ${libdir} into a package like kdepimpi-x11-libs ? Nov 05 09:36:12 hi to all ... Nov 05 09:36:46 building handhelds-sa-2.6-2.6.12-hh0+cvs20051103 i got a log.do_configure of about 2.5G ... :( ... Nov 05 09:40:25 gremlin[it]: in that case the defconfing isn't correct Nov 05 09:40:46 * koen had a 130GB logfile once Nov 05 09:41:15 orangey: you could, but only if other packages use those libs too Nov 05 09:42:40 any solution koen ? Nov 05 09:43:02 run it trough oldconfig by hand Nov 05 09:44:30 i try but compile fail ;( Nov 05 09:44:51 exactly i do 'make h3600-defconfig' Nov 05 09:45:26 create a fake stamps file for do_configure ... and the relaunch bitbake ... but fail Nov 05 09:50:39 anyone good in gtk and image manipulation? Nov 05 10:31:01 hmm.. I have no "old gunzip process", but I keep getting the following: # ipkg install libqt-mt3_3.3.5-r10_armv5te.ipk \ ipkg: *** Couldnt kill old gunzip process *** aborting Nov 05 10:37:37 good evening Nov 05 12:52:03 hrw|gone: isn't QPF the prefered form anyway? Nov 05 13:03:11 zecke: I think I got kdepimpi-x11 compiled! Nov 05 13:03:17 congrats Nov 05 13:03:34 zecke: thanks : ) Nov 05 13:03:45 zecke: a question, though: I can't seem to find where it put the binaries.. Nov 05 13:12:19 the kernel problem seem cause the new kernel have new questions that old h3600_defconfig .config isn't able to answer ;( Nov 05 13:13:10 really bad ... compiling h3600.o ... got a lof of errors !!! Nov 05 13:19:01 orangey: binary as in 'ipk' or as in executable? Nov 05 13:23:21 zecke: as in 'executable'. the ipk has not been assigned by the person who patched the code.. Nov 05 13:26:04 orangey: well search for it ;) Nov 05 13:26:13 tmp/work/kdepimp*/* Nov 05 13:26:31 And I do not understand "ipk has not been assigned" Nov 05 13:26:42 The ipk is created after compiling (normally) Nov 05 13:29:29 zecke: somebody has to say what goes on in the ipk, right? Nov 05 13:29:42 zecke: the author didn't finish it, apparently Nov 05 13:30:03 orangey: well who is the author? Nov 05 13:30:13 orangey: normally you have a FILES += "wildcards" Nov 05 13:30:19 to say what files to ship Nov 05 13:34:29 zecke: hrw did it.. Nov 05 13:34:36 hi Nov 05 13:34:39 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 Nov 05 13:34:43 zecke: see above Nov 05 13:36:02 what is the point in including locale-base-de-de and local-base-fr-fr in the GPE image (3.5.4RC) when the only available language for GPE is english ? Nov 05 13:37:28 mmm... ok, then i didn't do anything bad : the 23.4mo GPE image is too much for my c750... I thought it was a new and lighter image, but no... Nov 05 13:40:32 zecke: hey man, got a few minutes to help me with that .bb that I can't get working? Nov 05 13:44:18 no promise Nov 05 13:44:48 orangey: kdepimpix11 is using 'qmake' for building? Nov 05 13:44:52 zecke: hey man, you offered to help me before, I'm not looking for a promise, just some help. Nov 05 13:44:53 orangey: there must be a .pro file for it Nov 05 13:45:04 Zero_Chaos: paste the file and the error you see Nov 05 13:45:12 Zero_Chaos: and explain what you want to achieve Nov 05 13:45:25 yup yup... no problem, I get that all up to pastbin, give me a few Nov 05 13:45:45 orangey: then in this .pro file you have a 'DESTDIR' (or not) and you have a TARGET (or not) Nov 05 13:51:20 zecke: yeah, it uses qmake Nov 05 13:51:33 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/27720 Nov 05 13:51:41 orangey: well the binary is either in DESTDIR or in '.' (where you compile) Nov 05 13:52:44 zecke: OK. Nov 05 13:53:44 Zero_Chaos: please tar the tmp/work/void11-* and send it to freyther@gmx.net Nov 05 13:54:35 zecke: okay.... but what do I type to tar it up ? :-) (I only ever untar things) Nov 05 13:55:10 tar -cvzf somefile.tgz somefiles Nov 05 13:56:56 Zero_Chaos: alternatively paste /home/zaurus/src/build/tmp/work/void11-0.2.0-r0/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.2248 Nov 05 13:58:07 zecke: any idea what this is: Nov 05 13:58:14 # ipkg install libqt-mt3_3.3.5-r10_armv5te.ipk \ ipkg: *** Couldnt kill old gunzip process *** aborting Nov 05 13:59:45 orangey: no Nov 05 14:02:55 Ciao all Nov 05 14:03:47 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/27721 Nov 05 14:04:52 Zero_Chaos: please mail me that file Nov 05 14:04:55 pigi!!!!!!!! Nov 05 14:05:04 Pigi: any progress on kdepimpi-x11? Nov 05 14:05:19 Pigi: I am now sorta able to compile it. Nov 05 14:05:34 hi orangey, yes and not..... I got it compiled, but it doesn't ( seems to ) work Nov 05 14:05:36 Zero_Chaos: and the bb file as well Nov 05 14:06:02 hi gremlin[it] Nov 05 14:06:08 Pigi: where are the binaries? Nov 05 14:06:16 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/27720 has void11-0.2.0.bb Nov 05 14:06:26 hi Pigi :) Nov 05 14:06:31 actually they are installed in /opt/QtPalmtop/bin Nov 05 14:07:06 Zero_Chaos: well I do not want to copy and paste the file myself Nov 05 14:07:11 Zero_Chaos: and delete the numbering... Nov 05 14:07:19 gremlin[it], I've been able to create my own image. And learned a really bunch of interessing stuff on builds and tips. Nov 05 14:07:21 pigi: interesting.. Nov 05 14:07:29 zecke: you want me to just mail it to you then? Nov 05 14:07:39 right Nov 05 14:07:49 orangey, not too much unfortunelly. I' m trying to guess where it hangs. Nov 05 14:09:05 pigi: where is the root FS kept? Nov 05 14:09:12 pigi: it doesn' seem in my work directory.. Nov 05 14:09:44 in oe ? it is in your build dir under tmp ( eg /home/oe/tmp/rootfs ) Nov 05 14:10:13 Pigi good .. i hope u'll share your tip ;) Nov 05 14:10:21 tips Nov 05 14:10:46 gremlin[it], of course. Nov 05 14:11:11 pigi: I get Nov 05 14:11:21 /usr/local/bitbake/build/tmp# ls \ cache cross deploy staging stamps work Nov 05 14:11:59 zecke: sent Nov 05 14:13:32 Zero_Chaos: did you attach the file? Nov 05 14:14:05 zecke: my mail servers randomly suck, let me try another one. Nov 05 14:14:23 Pigi: I'm guessing you're using org.openembedded.oz* ? Nov 05 14:15:22 orangey, you didn't build an image ( as gpe-image ) then you won't have a rootfs Nov 05 14:15:47 but you should find the packages in /usr/local/bitbake/build/tmp/deploy/ipk Nov 05 14:17:56 orangey, looks for kopi-x11.ipk and so on Nov 05 14:18:05 zecke: sent it again. Nov 05 14:18:37 pigi: could you send me your packs? Nov 05 14:18:49 pigi: this is what I get: http://oe.pastebin.com/418611 Nov 05 14:22:12 orangey, first of all you should change your distro to "familiar-0.8.3 " Nov 05 14:22:23 and not, I'm not using .oz branch Nov 05 14:22:45 I'm using .dev Nov 05 14:23:25 hrw|gone, are you really gone? Nov 05 14:24:27 pigi: I have. Nov 05 14:24:32 pigi: But it for some reason won't take. Nov 05 14:24:40 hi, what could be the problem that when pressing the I/O button on my simpad with gpe (oe from 1.nov) it either does nothing or freezes. when executing apm --suspend from terminal it works? Nov 05 14:24:43 somebody (you or zecke?) said it was not consequential Nov 05 14:25:33 orangey, check your local.conf in build/conf dir Nov 05 14:25:36 vittorio: I fixed that yesterday in .dev Nov 05 14:25:49 koen, great! Nov 05 14:26:16 kdrive needed the apm patch too Nov 05 14:26:26 orangey, have you never tried a whole build ? maybe some package is missing. Nov 05 14:26:51 orangey: well fix the package? ;) Nov 05 14:27:05 and also my DISTRO says "familiar" Nov 05 14:27:07 Pigi: I have.. Nov 05 14:27:16 zecke: fix what package? Nov 05 14:27:23 see u soon Nov 05 14:27:35 orangey: whatever you want to have working Nov 05 14:27:42 zecke: thank you : ) Nov 05 14:27:57 is there no package for qvfb around? Nov 05 14:28:11 this is entirely too much trouble just to get kdepimpi working on gpe Nov 05 14:28:46 yeah 'invention'/doing something no one ever did before should be easy ;) Nov 05 14:29:24 Zero_Chaos: gotcha Nov 05 14:29:37 Zero_Chaos: ${sbindir] Nov 05 14:29:51 Zero_Chaos: should not end with ] but with } Nov 05 14:30:00 Zero_Chaos: lines 56 and 57 Nov 05 14:30:30 zecke: thanks man, I am a moron. Nov 05 14:30:38 zecke: my expectations aren't entirely unreasonable.. i just want to run a reasonable pim program : ) Nov 05 14:30:55 use opie Nov 05 14:31:20 zecke: everything else is worse in opie.. see how my greediness works? : ) Nov 05 14:31:22 i.e., browser, etc. Nov 05 14:31:32 orangey, ATM if you want kdepim you have two option ( unfortunally ) : Nov 05 14:31:51 orangey: use XQt to run minimoz on Opie Nov 05 14:32:03 1) you fix it by yourself or wait until someone else does Nov 05 14:32:05 orangey: use Opie Nov 05 14:32:19 2) you change to opie until someone fix it in gpe Nov 05 14:32:29 pigi: What about qvfb? Nov 05 14:32:38 For what I see right now, fixing isn't easy. Nov 05 14:32:52 pigi: could you send me your .ipk files so I can have a try here? Nov 05 14:32:56 as most of the trouble are in the code itself, not in the oe build Nov 05 14:32:57 or a zip of your /opt? Nov 05 14:33:11 Pigi: The problem with me is that I have spent 99% of my time just getting up to speed with a relatively immature OE system. Nov 05 14:33:15 what machine do you have Nov 05 14:33:23 ? Nov 05 14:33:25 pigi: hx4700 Nov 05 14:33:47 pigi: So I don't even have the build so I could start trying to package it, which is all hrw said needed to be done Nov 05 14:33:49 I will send it to you, but I'm not sure they will work. Nov 05 14:33:57 pigi: what do you have? Nov 05 14:34:01 h3900 Nov 05 14:34:05 pigi: it's close. Nov 05 14:36:19 orangey, I have a tar file for you. It's 8mb Nov 05 14:37:13 orangey, I'm dcc'ing it to you Nov 05 14:37:29 thanks pigi Nov 05 14:37:36 np Nov 05 14:37:41 I'll try this, and if I can't get it going, I'm back to Opie Nov 05 14:38:00 zecke: package for xqt? Nov 05 14:38:35 orangey: well you are mistaken the purpose of this channel ;) Nov 05 14:38:56 orangey: it is the OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge not give me a package chan ;) Nov 05 14:39:06 orangey: for packages ask your distributor Nov 05 14:39:27 remember that you need to do "ln -s /usr/pics/kdepim/ /usr/bin" because atm I have made it compile for /usr, but not changed the pics Nov 05 14:39:28 zecke: I meant to say "are there packages for xqt?" Nov 05 14:39:37 orangey: bitbake xqt Nov 05 14:39:50 zecke, apologize me then. Nov 05 14:39:57 Pigi: he? Nov 05 14:40:08 It's also my fault I suppose. Nov 05 14:40:17 Pigi: nothing to apologize for Nov 05 14:40:21 thx Nov 05 14:40:52 heheh : ) I'm a refugee of channel topics. Perhaps you can take comfort in the fact that it seems I never know where I'm supposed to be. Nov 05 14:50:39 wow. gpe, gpe-mini-browser and sylpheed rock. my simpad is getting a new live :) Nov 05 14:54:48 I'm trying to may my app run as single instance. I added SingleInstance=True to the .desktop file but it doesn't work Nov 05 14:54:49 I know gpe-calendar has the single instance property but I can't figure out how to do it for my app Nov 05 14:54:49 do I need to make it depend on some library in the .bb file? Nov 05 14:59:35 fyliu: isn't more appropriate for #maemo? Nov 05 14:59:48 fyliu: isn't that more appropriate for #maemo or #gpe? Nov 05 15:01:23 thanks zecke, I wasn't sure where to ask Nov 05 15:15:27 it's time to sleep. Nov 05 15:15:31 Night all Nov 05 15:15:35 Pigi: cya Nov 05 15:16:13 zecke: for some reason, my void11-0.2.0.bb makes two ipkg, one normal, and one "dev", how do I stop it from doing that? Nov 05 15:17:00 Zero_Chaos: do you want a reason or a fix? Nov 05 15:17:32 zecke: I need a fix, but a reason would be cool too. Nov 05 15:17:47 Zero_Chaos: check conf/bitbake.conf and search for PACKAGES Nov 05 15:18:14 Zero_Chaos: there you have PACKAGES = "${PN} ${PN}-doc.... Nov 05 15:18:26 hi Nov 05 15:18:27 zecke: yeah Nov 05 15:18:28 Zero_Chaos: and FILES_${PN} and FILES_${PN}-doc ... Nov 05 15:18:38 Zero_Chaos: when setting PACKAGES = "${PN}" Nov 05 15:19:09 Zero_Chaos: you will only see a void11 package being created Nov 05 15:19:45 zecke: can I put that just in the .bb file? Nov 05 15:20:09 yeah Nov 05 15:20:23 zecke: you are the man, thanks for all the help. Nov 05 15:21:22 Zero_Chaos: some where (in your local.conf, machine.conf, your distribution) you have a INHERIT += ipk this results in the ipk bbclass being included in every bb file Nov 05 15:21:48 package_ipk rather Nov 05 15:21:50 Zero_Chaos: and this ipk class hooks in after do_install and uses the FILES and PACKAGES variable to create packages Nov 05 15:22:10 zecke: I have no idea what you are talking about :-) Nov 05 15:22:33 Zero_Chaos: then nevermind Nov 05 15:22:37 zecke: but unless I need to know it, don't worry about it :-) Nov 05 15:29:05 wb Nov 05 15:29:12 re Nov 05 15:29:37 2-3 minutes from cold start to kde session Nov 05 15:29:58 could be better :( Nov 05 15:31:15 my portupgrade takes ages... Nov 05 15:34:54 did you ever get a new computer? Nov 05 15:35:55 didn't I blog about it? Nov 05 15:36:14 ggilbert: due to your help and others I have AMD XP 2600 with 512MB next to me Nov 05 15:36:28 this is my so called build machine I use for compiling mainly OE Nov 05 15:36:36 2600+ is 2GHz? Nov 05 15:37:53 I wanted to do cat /proc/cpuinfo but my BSD box does not have it... Nov 05 15:38:04 hrw: I think it is 1,6Ghz Nov 05 15:38:16 * CosmicPenguin makes a mental note to get zecke some better hardware Nov 05 15:39:01 CosmicPenguin: Well I actually still have some money on the PayPal account Nov 05 15:39:13 CosmicPenguin: I plan to purchase disks for my four sharks Nov 05 15:39:16 zecke: 2200 is 1.8GHz Nov 05 15:39:36 zecke: http://zecke.blogspot.com/ is your blog or you abandoned it? Nov 05 15:39:44 zecke: file /usr/lib/libvoid11.so was "installed" but not shipped in any package. How do I make sure it goes into the main package? Nov 05 15:40:27 zecke cool Nov 05 15:40:33 hrw: no, I'm just a lazy ass Nov 05 15:40:47 zecke: ok. so I will bookmark it in delicious Nov 05 15:42:48 * zecke goes back to finish up his assignments... Nov 05 15:43:29 anyone able to help me make sure a .lib ends up in the main ipk and not a dev.ipk? Nov 05 15:44:11 Zero_Chaos: the .so belongs to the dev package Nov 05 15:44:32 zecke: I know, but I don't one a whole ipk for one file. Nov 05 15:44:55 Zero_Chaos: you should have something like libvoid.so.0.1.9... Nov 05 15:44:55 Zero_Chaos: the .so is only needed for development Nov 05 15:45:15 zecke: the .so is needed for the program to function at all Nov 05 15:45:33 Zero_Chaos: then look at conf/bitbake.conf Nov 05 15:46:13 Zero_Chaos: and add the .so to FILES_${PN} as well (in your .bb) Nov 05 15:46:13 Zero_Chaos: and I guess I make no sense at all... Nov 05 15:47:37 zecke: how do I add the .so to FILES_${PN} in my .bb? example pleae Nov 05 15:48:35 Zero_Chaos: FILES_${PN} += " ${libdir}/lib*.so " ;) Nov 05 15:48:52 zecke: where do I put that, in the top part? Nov 05 15:49:04 Zero_Chaos: anyware in your bb file Nov 05 15:50:27 zecke: thanks as always, good luck on your assignments Nov 05 15:54:13 ggilbert: besides I'm still in lawsuit with my father for child support, I'm doing better financially Nov 05 15:56:43 zecke: That sucks Nov 05 15:57:02 woglinde: hey Nov 05 15:57:28 ggilbert: I'm at a point I'm not even reading mails from my lawyer anymore... Nov 05 16:07:37 zecke: I'm still waiting to hear back from mine Nov 05 16:07:40 getting annoying Nov 05 16:08:40 oh I have missed that, can you spare some details? Nov 05 16:11:32 delta (WSKEA (w,s, ((Term (TZ x)):xs),e,a)) = WSKEA ((Z x):w,s,xs,e,a) Nov 05 16:11:41 gosh that is readable Nov 05 16:16:05 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/11/05/354-release-candidate/ Nov 05 16:16:24 it should be written earlier.. Nov 05 16:19:01 hi ggilbert, zecke Nov 05 16:19:11 hrw: 3.5.4 doesn't seem to work at all on my SL-5500, you want me to download again and try it? Nov 05 16:19:17 hey phil Nov 05 16:21:03 Zero_Chaos: works on my collie Nov 05 16:21:05 hi pb Nov 05 16:21:23 hrw: I guess I'll make sure my image isn't corrupt Nov 05 16:21:39 Zero_Chaos: md5sums are provided Nov 05 16:22:53 zecke: I added FILES_${PN} += "${libdir}/libvoid11.so" Nov 05 16:22:59 zecke: and it still doesn't put it in the ipk Nov 05 16:24:17 Zero_Chaos: try adding a space before $ (but that should have been done by += IIRC) Nov 05 16:24:46 yeah, += always adds a space Nov 05 16:25:02 pb_: how are you? Nov 05 16:25:47 zecke: very well. how are you? Nov 05 16:25:59 zecke: if += adds that space for me, why doesn't it work? or at least how do I open the ipk to see what's up? Nov 05 16:26:34 Zero_Chaos: I use the midnight commander Nov 05 16:26:48 pb_: my term started and it is and will be tough... Nov 05 16:27:03 zecke: ah, right. is this your final year? Nov 05 16:27:06 zecke: can I get a bit more explaination than "the midnight commander"? Nov 05 16:27:30 pb_: not even close to. But I'm accelerating stuff (at least I hope to) Nov 05 16:27:45 Zero_Chaos: do you happen to run debian? Nov 05 16:27:55 zecke: gentoo Nov 05 16:28:10 zecke: but likely I can install anything you were about to tell me to. Nov 05 16:28:15 pb_: one part of the problem is I do not take any written tests... and need to get some appointments to take my tests... Nov 05 16:28:29 Zero_Chaos: dpkg-showpackage ;) Nov 05 16:28:38 zecke: ah, I can see how that would be inconvenient Nov 05 16:29:06 pb_: it is convient, as it is the only way I'm physically able to take tests... Nov 05 16:30:00 pb_: but I'm lazy^3 scared as well... "I'm disabled, I'm supposed to take an oral exam..." Nov 05 16:30:18 Zero_Chaos: using ar x foo.ipk Nov 05 16:30:30 Zero_Chaos: you will get a data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz Nov 05 16:30:47 Zero_Chaos: using your favorite tool you might look into data.tar.gz Nov 05 16:31:07 Zero_Chaos: but be aware once bitbake built your ipk it will not recreate it unless you force it to Nov 05 16:31:09 zecke: mm, I see Nov 05 16:31:47 zecke: how do I use dpkg-showpackage? (I'm installing dpkg now) Nov 05 16:31:53 pb_: the stupid answer I get back is why. Nowadays I reply if you find out I'm confident you will get the Novel price for medicine ;) Nov 05 16:32:14 Zero_Chaos: dpkg-showpackage --help will hopefully tell you. I don't remember the syntax Nov 05 16:32:20 zecke: thanks Nov 05 16:32:44 Zero_Chaos: Again I'm a midnight commander additc Nov 05 16:32:46 addict even Nov 05 16:32:48 zecke: hehe Nov 05 16:33:18 'mortal combat' rule Nov 05 16:33:41 heya pb Nov 05 16:33:55 we used to call mc like that when used it on hp2623 terminals (no Fx keys, no cursors, shitty screen refresh) Nov 05 16:34:04 zecke: is your health generally OK at the moment, or are you still confined to the hospital on a regular basis? Nov 05 16:34:05 pb_: how is receiva going? Nov 05 16:34:17 zecke: could you look into oe bug #441? Nov 05 16:34:34 zecke: it is going well. this is a slightly anxious time, as our products are about to go on sale to the public for the first time. Nov 05 16:35:03 pb_: I'm on heavy drugs but i feel fine - with some minor issue raising from time to time Nov 05 16:35:20 pb_: This year I have gone from weekly hospital visits to monthly ones Nov 05 16:35:34 for example, um... http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=ELEC&title=819525&p=321&g=409&pa=rgncs Nov 05 16:35:44 zecke: that sounds like an improvement Nov 05 16:36:37 pb_: nice device Nov 05 16:36:40 hrw: why not name vera fixed? Nov 05 16:36:43 'night guys Nov 05 16:37:18 zecke: s/vera/dejavu_sans_mono - hmm.. Nov 05 16:37:55 pb_: you produce stuff that can cary a windows logo? oh my gosh Nov 05 16:38:42 hrw: it is a clear sign that we need fontconfig (with a mmapble cache though) Nov 05 16:38:57 yep Nov 05 16:39:09 hrw: but for now I would either change opie-console or rename dejavu to fixed Nov 05 16:40:36 pb_: I'm accelerating my studying with the hope I can afterwards hire at a research facility - if not yet shut down... Nov 05 16:41:05 zecke: does QFontDatabase work with out qt/e? Nov 05 16:41:40 hrw: yes Nov 05 16:44:08 zecke: so if fixed is not font then create QFontDatabase and try to find other fixed? Nov 05 16:44:24 hrw: that could work Nov 05 16:46:36 pb_: is receiva privately owned? Nov 05 16:46:45 zecke: too bad that TT does not provide examples for it;( Nov 05 16:47:19 hrw: well the more interesting question is if fonts.dir provides Nov 05 16:47:23 hrw: the needed info at all Nov 05 16:47:36 yep Nov 05 16:51:09 zecke: it is. Nov 05 18:55:00 night Nov 05 18:55:05 see you Nov 05 19:54:16 LCA miniconf -> LCA == ? Nov 06 01:11:46 Good Morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 06 02:59:59 2005