**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 06 02:59:59 2005 Nov 06 03:33:18 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0e4a1c08... 10/: preferred gpe versions 2.7: sync with the branch Nov 06 04:14:53 morning all Nov 06 04:15:08 hi Nov 06 04:15:09 hey RP Nov 06 04:15:11 hey zecke Nov 06 05:27:13 RP: is git3 newer that rc4 in 2.6 kernel? Nov 06 05:32:51 Yes, though ipkg will thing -rc4 is newer. Nov 06 05:33:01 git3 is 2.6.14 + extra bits. Nov 06 05:33:07 rc4 is pre 2.6.14. Nov 06 06:24:39 katossi: Listen to Noodles ;-) Nov 06 06:34:22 Noodles: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32209.png Nov 06 07:52:34 ljp: ping Nov 06 08:01:03 morning Nov 06 08:58:35 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * rb81cd544... 10/: squashfs-tools: Add squashfs-tools 2.2. Nov 06 09:10:40 if I set my preferred version of kernel as 2.6.14-git3, will I have problems with ipkg? Nov 06 09:10:53 I mean, because it thinks that rc4 is newer Nov 06 09:26:40 katossi: Are you building a complete new image? Nov 06 09:26:57 If so, just remove any references to -rc4 from tmp/deploy/ipk... Nov 06 09:27:50 it's a new image Nov 06 09:29:03 but, is there any other way to do it? why does ipkg think that rc4 is newer? Nov 06 09:29:38 r sorts higher a g Nov 06 09:29:40 as* Nov 06 09:29:55 aps ok, it was too easy :) Nov 06 09:39:05 RP: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/VersioningPolicy Nov 06 09:47:36 RP: I also mailed that link to the ml Nov 06 09:59:28 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * recff15b5... 10/: psmisc: Add 21.8, which is the latest release and compiles cleanly with uclibc. Nov 06 10:20:34 hi Nov 06 10:21:02 hi hrw Nov 06 10:25:54 ~curse sun java Nov 06 10:26:08 one java application started.. 400M used Nov 06 10:26:35 thats what you get for having a interpretation layer Nov 06 10:28:29 bam_: show me useful gui client for bittorrent other then sucky azureus Nov 06 10:31:56 ctorrent :) Nov 06 10:32:26 hrw: btdownloadcurses / btdownloadmanycurses Nov 06 10:32:44 character graphics! ( useful as hell with screen though ) Nov 06 10:33:27 cyn: I already use bittornado but its not so usefull when have many torrents.. Nov 06 10:33:30 if windows (heh) supposedly utorrent is good Nov 06 10:33:31 bit buggy in resizable term emulators though :( Nov 06 10:34:12 yeah I don't do more than maybe 4 at a time so it's managable with screen and bt* Nov 06 10:34:32 I've used azureus when I need "just this file" but it's a bit... meh Nov 06 10:34:40 aye, same here Nov 06 10:35:00 and shareaza is suckier than azureus :( Nov 06 12:20:04 Ciao all Nov 06 12:22:28 hi Pigi Nov 06 12:22:50 Pigi: could ipkg support running ipkg-link after installation? Nov 06 12:22:58 kind of option in ipkg.conf for example.. Nov 06 12:23:42 hrw, this has been discussed several times in irc, and on bugzilla. I suspect it won't be easy. Nov 06 12:25:16 ok Nov 06 12:25:37 hrw, http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1299 Nov 06 12:26:13 will look Nov 06 12:26:21 tv time.. Nov 06 12:26:21 afk Nov 06 12:26:44 if you need to run ipkg-link at the end of ipkg, it ( usually ) means that you are installing on external destination ( not root ) Nov 06 12:41:13 bam_: show me useful gui client for bittorrent other then sucky azureus<---dunno of one Nov 06 12:41:56 * france is back (gone 68:04:10) Nov 06 12:46:33 * Pigi is away: I'm busy Nov 06 12:53:40 * france is away: Away Nov 06 14:49:11 anyone know what are alignment traps? Nov 06 14:49:42 sloppy programming Nov 06 14:50:26 see http://www.handhelds.org/minihowto/porting-software.html Nov 06 14:56:48 koen, thanks Nov 06 14:57:17 i'm giving continuosly that error when i use ettercap,nmap etc programs in my zaurus Nov 06 14:58:19 you can tweak /proc/alignment to silence the errors Nov 06 14:59:15 koen: That's cheating a bit though ;-) Nov 06 14:59:32 so very true :) Nov 06 14:59:40 we use to set it to 1 iirc Nov 06 14:59:49 *crash* *crash* *crash* Nov 06 15:00:07 xD Nov 06 15:01:02 koen, usually that's errors would be by the drivers,kernel or programms? or by all? Nov 06 15:01:33 every app that has unaligned pointers Nov 06 15:01:38 axi: all, but the kernel got fixed first Nov 06 15:04:43 zecke: does Mac have VNC? Nov 06 15:05:01 yes, 'chicken of the vnc' Nov 06 15:05:09 mithro: client yes, Opie VNC ;) Nov 06 15:06:04 zecke: so anyway you could give me a VNC login to your box so i can see why this client isn't working? Nov 06 15:07:00 mithro: tomorrow in uni, my router won't let you though Nov 06 15:08:35 maybe we should teach your router some manners? :P Nov 06 15:09:01 mithro: maybe I should get a WRT or such thing.. Nov 06 15:09:18 something I could attach disk,printer,wlan to... Nov 06 15:09:32 that new one with sata looks pretty good Nov 06 15:11:16 anyone know about "dual" booting a 3100? Nov 06 15:13:47 topic, 3rd item Nov 06 15:15:51 mithro: I'm happy with anything better... Nov 06 15:16:27 hrw|gone_: looks like we helped that french/arabic dude... Nov 06 15:17:07 mithro: any prefered time I should switch the laptop on? Nov 06 15:17:25 mithro: I hope that the uni is not filtering ports though Nov 06 15:18:29 * zecke returns to his assignments Nov 06 15:21:34 zecke: not sure Nov 06 15:21:42 * koen continues with his paper Nov 06 15:21:55 in the afternoon would most probably be better Nov 06 15:22:23 koen: these dutch people... visiting cofee shops way too often, can't even assemble a joint within a day... Nov 06 15:22:46 mithro: I could leave the ibook on from 14:30h to 18h (if the battery holds...) Nov 06 15:23:08 zecke: actually tommorrow might not be that good, what about later in the week? Nov 06 15:23:27 zecke: even I can make one, and I don't even smoke! Nov 06 15:23:47 well I have stopped.. since I'm sick Nov 06 15:23:59 I never started :) Nov 06 15:24:04 (never smoked cigarettes though) Nov 06 15:42:29 RP: still no objections to the versioning proposal :) Nov 06 16:01:39 Say ... how do you compile modules for the OZ 2.6 kernel? I get "Invalid processor variant -mcpu=xscale" probably because it's using gcc 2.95.3, which doesn't support that architecture, but how was the kernel built in the first place ... Nov 06 16:06:59 Perhaps I'm meant to use module.bbclass to compile it. Nov 06 16:47:36 koen: We'll give it a couple of days, then implement it ;-) Nov 06 17:29:47 some one want to buy me http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/germanstore.woa/91406/wo/uYFUuv45tTKB33Tr7Tg1oVSY617/6.?p=0 Nov 06 17:38:32 i'm trying to install openzaurus 3.5.4, but when i reset and try to flash from SD card, don't detect the updater file, what's the correct name? updater.sh? Nov 06 17:43:00 try flashing from cf card Nov 06 17:52:40 I've been able to install from SD card. Nov 06 17:55:04 zecke: i removed all the options and it was still 3200 EUR!? Nov 06 17:57:06 right Nov 06 17:57:14 Quad G5 Nov 06 17:59:22 done with one assignment, I'm going to bed now Nov 06 18:02:13 you can get 6 normal computers for that price! Nov 06 18:02:26 all on one die? Nov 06 18:03:09 actually I hope my next desktop will be an Dual/Quad ARM SMP Core Nov 06 18:03:26 zecke: why? Nov 06 18:03:55 due lower power consumption?! (i hope) Nov 06 18:04:06 no need for cooling etc...# Nov 06 18:04:09 zecke: your power bill to expensive? Nov 06 18:04:44 just get a decent laptop, they don't have fans Nov 06 18:04:48 mithro: that is the green party in me... Nov 06 18:05:03 anyway I'm going to sleep now Nov 06 18:08:03 zecke: use your computer as a heater in winter :P Nov 06 21:27:34 $ tail -1 build/conf/local.conf Nov 06 21:27:35 PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openzaurus = "2.6.14-git3" Nov 06 21:27:48 Is that the correct way to ask oe to build 2.6.14-git3 instead of rc1? Nov 06 21:33:33 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/ <- is down Nov 06 22:27:10 OK, 2.6.14-git3 does not patch, and after I fixed the patching problems, it doesn't compile. Nov 06 23:02:33 hi Nov 06 23:02:51 why does can not to pull the "monotone.vanille.de" often? Nov 06 23:03:03 anybody can show me Nov 06 23:04:49 I think the server is down. Nov 06 23:09:40 perhaps :( Nov 06 23:10:22 $monotone --db=OE.db pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.dev" Nov 06 23:10:32 monotone: network error: failed to connect: Nov 06 23:10:56 sometime it can do pull Nov 06 23:47:06 hi everyone Nov 06 23:48:24 does the spitz kernel 2.6.14 support harddisk buffer? Nov 06 23:59:19 hi RP. Nov 07 00:00:27 whether the 2.6.14kernel supports hd buffer option? Nov 07 00:26:57 morning all Nov 07 00:54:10 morning alan Nov 07 01:16:44 <_law_> perl 5.8.7 doesnt build http://pastebin.com/420346 (is /bin/perl5.8.7 ok?) Nov 07 01:18:46 <_law_> or could ASSUME_PROVIDED += " perl-native " (in my local.conf) make the problem? Nov 07 01:19:12 that would be the problem Nov 07 01:22:03 <_law_> try it without this Nov 07 01:50:48 morning Nov 07 01:56:11 morning xora Nov 07 02:07:28 morning all Nov 07 02:07:33 Hi RP. Nov 07 02:08:03 morning RP Nov 07 02:08:08 Boy do I have questions ... just kidding. I do, but I'll work on things a bit more before I bother people with them. ;) Nov 07 02:08:22 RP:whether the 2.6.14kernel supports hd buffer option? Nov 07 02:08:43 vecordia: Nov 07 02:09:05 vecordia: I don't understand the question. Do microdrives have buffers? Nov 07 02:09:31 vecordia: They're just used as standard ide devices so if anything is available, I'd guess we use it Nov 07 02:09:45 RP:spitz can mount a harddisk Nov 07 02:09:50 morning all Nov 07 02:10:36 vecordia: no, but ide CF cards are very similar to harddisks Nov 07 02:11:23 RP:your mean that spitz donnot mount harddisk? Nov 07 02:11:35 RP: morning, not sure what wierdness was going on with sound on fri, but it works perfect now, and Ive been testing with mplayer and seems to have less cpu load than old OSS driver Nov 07 02:11:59 hey ade|desk Nov 07 02:23:57 I have my own image using a customized bootstrap, the problem is when I compile the image it says it doesn't find the bootstrap package, but if I compile the bootstrap it works, any clue? Nov 07 02:24:44 RP:2.6.14kernel support power management? Nov 07 02:26:36 RP:I saw that it have CONFIG_ARM=Y from the .config in the ${WORK}. Nov 07 02:28:56 22 Nov 07 02:46:57 vecordia: Yes, it supports power management Nov 07 02:47:18 XorA: Its good to hear is uses less cpu :) Nov 07 02:48:41 RP:thank a lot **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 07 02:59:57 2005