**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 08 02:59:58 2005 Nov 08 03:00:03 Gooooood Morning! Nov 08 03:00:57 Is there a simple way to build a gpe-image for h3900 with 2.6 kernel ? Nov 08 03:02:38 hrw|work: Sadly, most are sitting in rmk's patch system :-( Nov 08 03:03:01 hi Dirk Nov 08 03:03:04 hi dirk Nov 08 03:03:14 hi RP, hrw|work Nov 08 03:03:37 hi zecke Nov 08 03:03:48 hi zecke Nov 08 03:05:42 RP: any comments from rmk about the Patch #3093/1 (SharpSL PCMCIA Updates)? Nov 08 03:05:56 do13: Not a thing :-/ Nov 08 03:06:23 RP: I put the tosa patch into his patch system Nov 08 03:07:16 marc__: in conf/machine/h3900.conf there is a param to select kernel 2.6 Nov 08 03:08:30 do13: The patches look good. As part of my new job I guess I should sign them off :) Nov 08 03:08:52 RP: :) Nov 08 03:08:53 RP: new job? Nov 08 03:09:02 can one congratulate to something? Nov 08 03:09:36 zecke: rmk has asked me to vet all the Sharp Zaurus patches as I know more about it than him Nov 08 03:09:41 I'm trying to substitute dropbear by openssh, and openssh is compiled, but not installed, or at least I don't see anything like /etc/init.d/sshd, is it INSTALLED in a non stardard place? Nov 08 03:09:53 koen: thanks Nov 08 03:09:53 RP: congrats Nov 08 03:09:55 ~lart nokia for dtl1 bt card Nov 08 03:09:55 * ibot drops a truckload of VAXen on nokia for dtl1 bt card Nov 08 03:10:22 I'm still not sure what happens when I want to submit a patch though... :) Nov 08 03:10:52 zecke: did shawn or lorn send you and abusive email yet? Nov 08 03:11:11 koen: not yet Nov 08 03:11:34 shawn called me a jihadi last time :) Nov 08 03:12:02 koen: well most of the time you could differentiate more ,) Nov 08 03:12:17 heh Nov 08 03:14:32 do13: Out of interest, why the pxa_gpio_mode calls in the irda transceiver function? Nov 08 03:15:51 RP: Sharp did this calls in 2.4. It makes sense to put the line low. Nov 08 03:16:37 do13: Was that just done on tosa or on the other models too? Nov 08 03:17:24 RP: can't remember. irc only tosa Nov 08 03:17:50 do13: Ok, perhaps that's why I've missed it. Nov 08 03:18:28 do13: As a tip for the future, I'd recommend linewrapping the text in the Notes section in the patch system. Nov 08 03:19:04 The system should really do that for you but until it does... Nov 08 03:19:41 RP: Thanks for the hint. I'll wait for rmks comment :) Nov 08 03:20:20 do13: I found out the hard way ;-) Nov 08 03:21:09 RP: pxa_gpio_mode is only tosa related in 2.4 Nov 08 03:22:19 do13: ok, thanks, I was just worried I'd missed something for the c7x0/cxx00's :) Nov 08 03:22:41 RP: how do I mount the sd canrd in my akita? is it /dev/mtdblock2 ? Nov 08 03:22:59 katossi: /dev/mmcblk0p1 Nov 08 03:24:14 katossi: It should be automounted unless you've repartitioned it Nov 08 03:25:03 it's not being automounted, I don't know if it's because is ext2 Nov 08 03:25:06 RP: hello, I am the guy looking for 2.6 kernels for testing on c3100... Nov 08 03:25:51 is anything wrong with the unzip form busybox? I can't unzip a simple .zip file (unsupported method compression 0 ) Nov 08 03:26:16 katossi: Yes, ext2 will mean you need to edit /etc/fstab to have it automount Nov 08 03:26:37 greentux: hi. are you after to build your own or just do testing? Nov 08 03:27:34 RP: just do extensible testing. Nov 08 03:27:55 RP: but in fstab the fs type is auto Nov 08 03:28:06 katossi: Then it should work :-/ Nov 08 03:29:05 greentux: This means someone needs to build you an image as I don't have a borzoi one handy at the moment. Give me an hour or two and I can probably have an opie image ready for testing Nov 08 03:29:59 not a gpe image? ;) Nov 08 03:30:09 * ade|desk does the happy uclibc dance Nov 08 03:30:25 rp: big thanks. perhaps in two weeks i have another developer, who so also some building stuff, but for starting wit 2.6 & borzai it would be nice! Nov 08 03:30:33 ultra castrated dance? Nov 08 03:31:45 small in seat jig Nov 08 03:31:54 koen: did you see http://vizzzion.org/stuff/xgl_wanking.avi yet? Nov 08 03:33:09 zecke: a long time ago Nov 08 03:33:37 I saw the demo a long time before the aKademy people did Nov 08 03:34:54 zecke: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots Nov 08 03:35:30 koen: well these are different Nov 08 03:35:53 that's the one with all the zooming, right? Nov 08 03:36:48 I had Xglx working a while ago, but Ubuntu decided to break fglrx Nov 08 03:40:17 heh.. GL rendering in X11.. something not for my machines Nov 08 03:40:42 thanks to Daniel Stone not for me either Nov 08 03:41:15 isnt there something wrong about X on GL on X? Nov 08 03:41:36 my machines hardware is not capable to do good GL anyway.. matrox g400/450 is not GL monster Nov 08 03:41:55 it's great for 2d accel and tv out Nov 08 03:42:07 * XorA uses a 450 purely of tvout Nov 08 03:42:12 the g400 was the best designed card I ever owned Nov 08 03:44:58 tvout I would have to connect to tv tuner - but this will give me a loop as my g400@home is single head ;) Nov 08 03:46:09 7.5EUR for g400 DH Nov 08 03:54:02 we should use DirectFB anyway Nov 08 04:21:19 koen: and I guess shawn just want to sell apps Nov 08 04:21:28 koen: minimize work, maximize profit ;) Nov 08 04:22:40 maximize FUD Nov 08 04:23:09 you know that as a true patriot you can't code for a jihadi platform Nov 08 04:23:23 bush will lock you into guantanamo bay for doing that Nov 08 04:27:04 if he can remember where it is... Nov 08 04:28:44 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2005-11/msg00030.html is pretty cute Nov 08 04:34:13 greentux: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/borzoi-3.5.4ish/ Nov 08 04:34:51 greentux: Keep in mind borzoi is untested and this is not from the release branch Nov 08 04:38:52 RP: can I put that URL in 3.5.4-rc post on oz.org? some users asks for 2.6 to test Nov 08 04:40:03 hrw|work: ok, But stress it is not from the 3,5,4 release branch and is a total unknown quantity on borzoi Nov 08 04:40:25 hrw|work: Its actually a spitz image but there's no reason it shouldn't work... Nov 08 04:40:47 RP: so I will make a new post Nov 08 04:40:51 hrw|work: don't put it in the RC thread, but a seperate one Nov 08 04:40:57 yep Nov 08 04:41:39 and some users asked for a gpe images as well Nov 08 04:41:54 koen: Did you add the gpe image fix? Nov 08 04:42:10 no, didn't have time to sort that out yet Nov 08 04:42:25 koen: Sort it out and only then will I build some ;-) Nov 08 04:42:38 :) Nov 08 04:44:52 RP: could you provide kernel modules packages for that image? Nov 08 04:45:38 hrw|work: ok - will be added to a modules directory shortly Nov 08 04:45:43 need to stage them Nov 08 04:45:58 ok thx Nov 08 04:46:35 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/11/08/borzoi-3100-testing-image-with-26-kernel/ Nov 08 04:47:17 feel free to edit it needed Nov 08 04:53:21 is it possible to use gcc4 to build a gpe-image for example ? I have some errors... Nov 08 05:00:30 mallum: nice to see o-hand.com growing ;) Nov 08 05:01:49 hey zecke Nov 08 05:01:55 it is ? how come :) ? Nov 08 05:02:25 * zecke just read planet.gnome.org Nov 08 05:02:48 oh I see ;) Nov 08 05:03:07 gah Nov 08 05:03:12 ~stab jffs2 Nov 08 05:04:38 koen: have you leanrt c yet ? Nov 08 05:04:59 no, but my 1337 m4tl4b skills have improved Nov 08 05:05:17 rm -fr matlab Nov 08 05:07:19 RP: patch is in, but untested thanks to jffs2 blowing up Nov 08 05:08:27 koen: ok, thanks Nov 08 05:08:47 it's conditional anyway, so harmless for most devices Nov 08 05:08:49 rp: thanks, will test now. Nov 08 05:09:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbc093cfe... 10/: Nov 08 05:09:10 gpe-sessionscripts 0.66: add conditional patch for devices with a high dpi Nov 08 05:09:10 * sets fonts to fontsize 5 Nov 08 05:10:00 Oh rock. I'll have to install that. :) Nov 08 05:10:36 Noodles: it only works for new users Nov 08 05:10:38 Who are the GPE gurus btw? I was noticing some nasty problems with things not being sized correctly (eg account setup in GAIM). Nov 08 05:11:03 Plus, GPE on Spitz things it's in portrait mode rather than landscape. Nov 08 05:11:14 for the account setup: rm DL_DIR/*patch* and rebuild Nov 08 05:12:29 * XorA coughs, mozilla thunderbird takes 48M when installed Nov 08 05:12:37 only? Nov 08 05:12:57 hrw|work: on a Z, thats crazy, someone slap me with a wet kipper Nov 08 05:13:11 ~fishslap XorA Nov 08 05:14:15 koen: Hmmm? Which account setup? Nov 08 05:14:27 well thats the mystery of the missing / space anyway Nov 08 05:14:28 gaims Nov 08 05:15:08 Oh, has it been fixed then? Nov 08 05:15:15 I shall try later. Nov 08 05:16:00 it was fixed a while ago, but OE doesn't refresh the patch Nov 08 05:16:46 OE doesn't know how to do that hence all my zaurus patches having release numbers Nov 08 05:17:12 indeed Nov 08 05:19:10 mmm... my modem/router rebooted... lucky a source package was not being retrieved. Is there any option in bitbake to prevent everything from failing in such a case ? Nov 08 05:19:55 bitbake --no-reboot-modem-please ? Nov 08 05:20:06 ^^ Nov 08 05:20:43 once downloaded source tarballs are kept in sources/ , Nov 08 05:21:01 magnet: not in sources/ but in DL_DIR Nov 08 05:21:01 they should not be downloaded again, unless you cleaned that dir. Nov 08 05:21:12 it uses wget -c, so everything should be safe Nov 08 05:21:21 ops Nov 08 05:22:21 zecke: could you send a mail to oe@ explaining the md5sum thingie? Nov 08 05:33:35 magnet i know that about sources being kept. But it already happened to me, building everything from scratch. I launched bitbake in the morning, before i went to my job. When i came back, nothing had been done because wget had failed finding the sources (no net connection for 2 or 3 minutes.) Nov 08 05:34:14 bitbake -k -c fetch Nov 08 05:34:44 oh I misunderstood you, you can fetch all file before starting to compile. Nov 08 05:34:56 err ok koen is faster :) Nov 08 05:38:18 and if you fetch faster then build then you can run both in parallel Nov 08 05:41:24 rp: no initrd.bin, thats right? Nov 08 05:41:40 greentux: right Nov 08 05:43:28 koen: gpe-image was stripped a bit after 3.5.4-rc? Nov 08 05:43:53 I think it was Nov 08 05:51:15 doesnt recognice the cf now... :) will see Nov 08 05:51:56 forgot AC :) Nov 08 05:52:12 greentux: which cf card type? Nov 08 05:52:38 greentux: and 'does not recognize' mean 'no pccardctl ident' or 'no driver loaded'? Nov 08 05:53:31 doesnt flash without AC, but i cant read japanese ... Nov 08 05:53:36 ok next try Nov 08 05:54:41 kernel panic: no init found Nov 08 05:55:14 how to scroll back the kernel log? Nov 08 05:56:55 greentux: Did it put files onto the microdrive? Nov 08 05:57:06 * RP wonders if the updater.sh is working Nov 08 05:57:09 it flashes the kernel, reboots and stops Nov 08 05:57:41 doesnt see any activities on hdd Nov 08 05:58:15 retry... Nov 08 05:58:18 greentux: The updater.sh looks wrong - let me try and write a better one Nov 08 05:58:32 greentux: c3100 does have a microdrive, doesn't it? Nov 08 05:58:50 updater writes zImage.bin, thats all, reboots and stops Nov 08 05:59:26 4GB CFA Disk drive Nov 08 06:00:07 what about the updater from 3.5.4RC1->3100? Nov 08 06:00:47 greentux: Won't work. Try the one I've just added to the directory Nov 08 06:01:05 greentux: This one should install the image onto the first partition on the microdrive Nov 08 06:01:22 http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/borzoi-3.5.4ish/updater.sh Nov 08 06:02:03 ok, mom Nov 08 06:04:17 now formatting, Nov 08 06:04:25 now formatting Nov 08 06:04:28 xf not found Nov 08 06:04:29 error Nov 08 06:04:32 reboot... Nov 08 06:04:37 no init found Nov 08 06:04:49 panic :( Nov 08 06:05:09 greentux: show us 'cardctl ident' output from borzoi - maybe 2.6 does not have that cf card in list of known ones Nov 08 06:05:41 so i have reflash 3.5.4rc1... mom Nov 08 06:07:31 kj Nov 08 06:08:25 RP: want udev 074? Nov 08 06:08:36 ok, 3.5.4rc1 updater writes now his image to hdd... Nov 08 06:08:42 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rc1e11e88... 10/: ludeos: Added nas100d/ludeos distribution, including nas100d-kernel. Nov 08 06:08:47 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r2f275ba2... 10/: nas100d-kernel: Fixed nas100d-kernel.inc Nov 08 06:10:09 greentux: I don't like the sound of the error "xf not found". Was that the exact and only error? Nov 08 06:11:09 hrw|work: I think it just fixes bugs we haven't seen yet. You can add it to OE if it works Nov 08 06:11:24 yes... i looks like that it formats 2 of the 3 partitions of hdd... but the 3. hat errors... Nov 08 06:11:57 greentux: Did you add gnu-tar to the CF card? Nov 08 06:12:13 yes gnu-tar moved to tools.tar Nov 08 06:12:27 no, call it gnu-tar Nov 08 06:12:42 we're not pdxrom Nov 08 06:13:14 3.5.4rc1 works with tools.tar ... just installed :) Nov 08 06:13:24 ok, cardctl ident interested any longer? Nov 08 06:13:33 no, run it just to be sure Nov 08 06:13:46 as you have the image installed... Nov 08 06:14:03 hitachi microdrive 0x0319 0x000 4 (fixed disk) Nov 08 06:14:44 hitachi.. so it should work Nov 08 06:14:54 greentux: ok, that matches spitz, thanks Nov 08 06:15:12 ok, reinstall your 2.6... Nov 08 06:15:17 What's the difference between the 3000 and 3100? Nov 08 06:15:30 Try again with no initrd.bin, and gnu-tar named gnu-tar :) Nov 08 06:15:40 Noodles: Different flash size and type Nov 08 06:15:55 on the run... Nov 08 06:16:16 no formatting Nov 08 06:16:20 sorry Nov 08 06:16:23 now formmating Nov 08 06:16:26 now extracting Nov 08 06:16:57 and a lot "could not create symlinks" Nov 08 06:17:57 i think for all files... Nov 08 06:18:20 That doesn't sound good... Nov 08 06:18:23 no such file or directory Nov 08 06:18:27 ok reboot and... Nov 08 06:18:35 no init found :) Nov 08 06:18:59 the first time extracting there were no errors. after 10 or 15 seconds the errors began Nov 08 06:19:16 did you copy the gnutar binary too? Nov 08 06:19:33 greentux: We need to find out why you see those errors... Nov 08 06:20:05 http://pastebin.com/421660 - udev 074 attempt Nov 08 06:20:39 hdimage1.tgz updater.sh zImage.bin gnu-tar Nov 08 06:20:52 http://pastebin.com/421660 - udev 074 attempt Nov 08 06:22:12 greentux: What's your shell script like? Nov 08 06:22:22 updater writes HDD RO filesystem... means RO = read only? Nov 08 06:22:53 greentux: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/borzoi-3.5.4ish/updater.sh-raw is the raw updater.sh script Nov 08 06:23:01 http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2004/mallum/img1.html <- I always knew that Nov 08 06:23:09 http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/borzoi-3.5.4ish/updater.sh-test is a version which will drop you to a shell Nov 08 06:23:59 greentux: Use the version to drop to a shell and see why it has problems extracting the rootfilesystem Nov 08 06:24:05 zecke: so when KDE on qt/e? Nov 08 06:24:07 ok Nov 08 06:24:13 greentux: You can see the commands it runs from the raw script Nov 08 06:24:30 greentux: Check things like the drive is mounted where it thinks it should be etc. Nov 08 06:24:44 zecke: hehe, my true beliefs there in black and white ;) Nov 08 06:26:02 hrw|work: today? ./configure --with-qtopia Nov 08 06:27:00 sorry, the script does the same... Nov 08 06:27:13 zecke: and it works? nice Nov 08 06:27:57 greentux: updater.sh-test should drop to a shell... Nov 08 06:28:53 doesnt.md5sum ends in dde34e Nov 08 06:29:20 ok, or do you mean after extracting? Nov 08 06:29:22 fsck udev074 - I go lunch Nov 08 06:29:50 greentux: yes Nov 08 06:30:08 it will try to extract, then drop to a shell Nov 08 06:30:19 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r8663bff0... 10/: nas100d-kernel: Modified nas100d-kernel.inc to look in nas100d-kernel instead of nslu2-kernel. Nov 08 06:30:33 no after extracting errors it reboots Nov 08 06:31:04 hrw|work: no, some people believe it works... Nov 08 06:31:22 hrw|work: Lets just wait for 075 ;-) Nov 08 06:32:31 greentux: I suggest you take the raw updater.sh, edit it and then encode it and try and get to a shell Nov 08 06:32:56 how to encode? Nov 08 06:34:06 your /bin/sh -i stands after "success", but i have the error state Nov 08 06:36:07 greentux: ah yes, sorry - try the one I've just uploaded Nov 08 06:36:28 encoding is done as per enc.c on: http://externe.net/zaurus/faq/index.php/TBVBootSequence Nov 08 06:39:59 and rebooting again ... Nov 08 06:40:26 what is sharprom-compatible.conf in distro ? is it useable ? Nov 08 06:40:38 any doc about it ? Nov 08 06:42:45 can you go to shell direct after "now extracting"? Nov 08 06:54:35 ok, enc works now... Nov 08 06:56:27 greentux: or try reboot with D+B hold - on c7x0 it gives emergency 2.4 shell ;) Nov 08 06:56:52 it seems all ok on the /hdd1 Nov 08 06:57:49 any advantage to NOT write the image in flash (like initrd.bin does)? Nov 08 06:58:46 greentux: why using flash when you have uDrive available? Nov 08 06:59:45 ok, thought that teh usual way (i know only 3.5.4rc1 stuff :) Nov 08 07:01:13 gzip -dc works... Nov 08 07:03:35 ok... give me please md5sum of hdimage1.gz... seems unreadable Nov 08 07:04:17 greentux: b3814f3b1ae657f38f1189b7c6708b2c Nov 08 07:06:56 ok is right. Nov 08 07:08:41 RP: could you also put md5sums in directory? Nov 08 07:09:46 hrw|work: done Nov 08 07:10:09 now gzip|tar check... Nov 08 07:10:49 greentux: You need to use the gnu-tar, not the one on the filesystem Nov 08 07:10:57 slow output :) Nov 08 07:11:13 yes gzip -dc|./gnu-tar tf - (in /mnt/cf) Nov 08 07:11:23 works fine... Nov 08 07:12:40 check that /hdd1/sbin/init exists btw - if it does, the kernel should find it Nov 08 07:12:51 is will be a symlink Nov 08 07:13:42 ok now "xf" instead of "tf" and a -C /hdd1 Nov 08 07:13:58 extracting to /hdd1 is right i think... Nov 08 07:15:32 but same error. could not create directory and could not create file errors en masse Nov 08 07:15:47 The openzaurus project is currently over quota on Nov 08 07:15:47 the project shell server. Quotas for projects are set to 100 MB and the Nov 08 07:15:48 project is currently using 2049 MB. Nov 08 07:16:02 and we have to go <100MB till 2005-11-15 Nov 08 07:16:14 (letter from sf.net admins) Nov 08 07:16:32 ok... found Nov 08 07:16:36 btw. nice amount we use... Nov 08 07:16:49 hrw|work: ouch. How are we going to manage that? Nov 08 07:17:17 RP: no idea here Nov 08 07:17:52 I could offer storage for that amount of data but not the bandwidth :-/ Nov 08 07:18:23 ok /dev/hdc1 is mounted to /hdd1 and has only 10 MB Nov 08 07:18:34 3.5.4-RC is 343M Nov 08 07:19:22 you could put it on hh.org or ewi546 Nov 08 07:19:30 greentux: So sharp changed the partitioning on borzoi - I guess that makes sense... Nov 08 07:19:31 thats from the flashinstall with 3.5.4-rc Nov 08 07:19:36 how much would cost another host for the entire project hrw|work ? Nov 08 07:19:43 alan|xchat: dont know Nov 08 07:20:21 greentux: Which microdrive partition looks suitable as the rootfs then? Nov 08 07:20:29 hrw|work: you could put it on hh.org or ewi546 Nov 08 07:21:40 mmmh /dev/hdc1 and /dev/hdc2 have 10MB each, /dev/hdc3 has 4 GB Nov 08 07:22:19 greentux: I think we're going to have to suggest borzoi users repartition then... Nov 08 07:22:22 koen|uni: hh.org -> The Happy Hearts Organization: Nov 08 07:22:22 Top-Quality Dating Services At Lower Prices! ^^ Nov 08 07:24:07 i can try, what would you suggest? Nov 08 07:24:32 koen|uni: cool. now I have to get mickeyl alive and discuss what to do. Nov 08 07:25:41 greentux: It works like a normal harddisk - you'll need to use a disk repartitioning tool to change their sizes and reformat them Nov 08 07:26:57 i do that now... /dev/hdc1 -> 1.5GB Linux, /dev/hdc2 -> 2.5GB fat32 Nov 08 07:28:12 ~kergoth Nov 08 07:28:15 next try on extracting... Nov 08 07:28:15 i guess kergoth is Chris Larson, an embedded linux guy currently at Astrocom Corporation (http://www.astrocorp.com/). Email at kergoth@handhelds.org or clarson@astrocorp.com. Core dev / architect on the BitBake, OZ, and OpenEmbedded projects. Maintainer of the tslib project. Nov 08 07:28:58 hrw|work: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/ Nov 08 07:29:35 koen|uni: nice Nov 08 07:29:54 it's fetching stuff right now Nov 08 07:30:28 i can also organise a mirror at tu-dresden university Nov 08 07:31:38 reboots and find a initrd yeah! Nov 08 07:31:46 luzik told some time ago that ftp.task.gda.pl also can be a mirror Nov 08 07:32:18 hope all plays with that new partitioning Nov 08 07:32:42 guys, has anyone ever heard about this ? http://www.rasterman.com/files/eem.avi Nov 08 07:33:12 i have the sources here. anyluck anyone may add this to OE ? Nov 08 07:33:13 yes, and that's actually does nothing usefull Nov 08 07:33:20 we to have e17 in OE Nov 08 07:33:53 koen|uni: yeah, that is what i'm currently compiling. But my ! the gui is wonderful !! Nov 08 07:36:08 greentux: it boot from first uDrive partition? Nov 08 07:37:34 no sorry /dev/hda is now the harddisk / is /dev/hda1 Nov 08 07:37:53 cf is mounted as /dev/hdc1 on /media/cf Nov 08 07:38:18 greentux: As it should be ;-) Nov 08 07:38:31 greentux: Did you boot into opie? Nov 08 07:38:56 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/11/08/borzoi-3100-testing-image-with-26-kernel/ updated Nov 08 07:39:03 yes... i test something now. Nov 08 07:39:38 perhaps updater.sh can make a simple 50%/50% partitioning after a request? Nov 08 07:40:15 d-link wlan works fine ... Nov 08 07:40:34 greentux: dcf-660w? Nov 08 07:40:42 greentux: No, updater.sh shouldn't be doing that as at the moment it preserves data on the other partitions Nov 08 07:41:18 dcf 660 weua1 Nov 08 07:42:03 ok, how are the partitions on tne C3000 organised? Nov 08 07:44:08 greentux: 100MB, 400MB, 3.5GB Nov 08 07:44:20 as standard... Nov 08 07:44:55 then 100MB should also not enough! Nov 08 07:44:55 hrw|work: I updated the messaege to add a parition size (>100MB) Nov 08 07:45:06 somebody tested 3000? Nov 08 07:45:16 greentux: works fine here with the same image Nov 08 07:45:34 greentux: That image has ~50MB of files in... Nov 08 07:45:44 error 404 on http://www.oesources.org/source/current/e17.libs.edje.m4_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050926.tar.gz anyone has this file ? Nov 08 07:46:14 mmmh that cant be. i started with 100/100/3.8GB Nov 08 07:47:00 greentux: You said 10MB earlier Nov 08 07:47:22 oh sorry Nov 08 07:48:57 :) dont now if that is original. i tried some distris... Nov 08 07:50:21 cacko and 3.5.4 rc1... Nov 08 07:57:58 e17.libs.edje.m4_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050926.tar.gz is not on oesources.org at all... is there another rep for sources ? Nov 08 08:01:18 yes, upstream :) Nov 08 08:10:18 RP: borzoi has 128MB flash, right? Nov 08 08:10:50 koen|uni: yes Nov 08 08:11:21 so OZ could ship a jffs2 image to solve partitioning problems, right? Nov 08 08:11:32 could Nov 08 08:12:07 koen|uni: In theory Nov 08 08:12:17 some users could start panicking for writing to a ROM Nov 08 08:12:26 *cough* Nov 08 08:12:48 greentux: I'd be interested to know if you can read/write ok to /dev/mtdblock2 (it will be a jffs2 partition) Nov 08 08:24:23 how can i check the read/write? Nov 08 08:27:15 how to mount etc... Nov 08 08:27:30 greentux: mount /dev/mtdblock2 /somemountpoint -t jffs2 Nov 08 08:29:05 no such device Nov 08 08:29:17 ok... Nov 08 08:29:23 modprobe mtdchar? Nov 08 08:29:29 no the zaurus freezes :) moment reboot Nov 08 08:29:47 no, i takes a long time, now mounted Nov 08 08:30:21 koen|uni: I just built a gpe image. The login screen and window titles still suffer from font issues but it looks better than it did Nov 08 08:31:47 mount sais only 32 MB Nov 08 08:33:08 greentux: That sounds about right Nov 08 08:33:39 ok i have a meeting now... Nov 08 08:33:43 greentux: Does it have a valid filesystem? Nov 08 08:34:05 I guess if you've messed with other images it might not... Nov 08 08:34:15 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc1a4fbc4... 10/: Nov 08 08:34:15 mplayer-atty-1.1.5 : Enable ALSA Nov 08 08:34:15 A small hack required to the configure file as it tries to run a program Nov 08 08:34:15 to determine which version of alsa is installed. Have put this to a fixed Nov 08 08:34:15 version as OE only has 1.0+ in it. Nov 08 08:34:28 greentux: ok, thanks for your help in testing - at least we know it works now :) Nov 08 08:34:36 valid FS yes... Nov 08 08:34:56 and you can write a file on it? Nov 08 08:35:12 it has all the dirs /etc /sys /bin .... Nov 08 08:35:25 yes touch a writes a "a" file Nov 08 08:35:28 XorA: are you sure that ipaq has alsa 1.0? Nov 08 08:35:43 ok, 60min away Nov 08 08:35:43 greentux: excellent, thanks. Just wanted to check that all works and it sounds like it does Nov 08 08:36:20 hrw|work: Ipaq doesnt run mplayer-atty AFAIK Nov 08 08:36:26 RP: I suspect matchbox is using pixels for font sizes Nov 08 08:36:43 RP: so you need to poke your boss ;) Nov 08 08:36:44 hrw|work: anyway, the ability to use alsa doesnt require alsa Nov 08 08:37:33 'hi boss. your code is shitty.' 'you're fired' Nov 08 08:38:00 hrw|work: only alsa-lib_1.0.8 is in OE, so if they are using a different version it comes from a non OE place and I cannot do anything about that Nov 08 08:38:31 meeting moved :) Nov 08 08:39:35 morning Nov 08 08:40:31 sound does not work in this version... on borzai Nov 08 08:41:02 greentux: you need to load some modules Nov 08 08:41:41 greentux: sound is still under development. It can be made to work though, as hrw says Nov 08 08:43:37 ok... some doc on the wiki? Nov 08 08:44:55 greentux: No, its such a recent development, there are no docs :) Nov 08 08:45:23 RP: linux-openzaurus.bb probably need some autoload_MODNAME lines Nov 08 08:45:25 ok a little txt... Nov 08 08:46:10 RP: I'll have another sound release Wed/Thu, I'll add a little txt doc that can be pasted on the WiKi Nov 08 08:46:28 ~hail lrg Nov 08 08:46:35 you can send it to me and i put it on the wiki... Nov 08 08:47:02 lrg: great you are Nov 08 08:47:25 greentux: it's not even started yet. I'll write the txt on the train home tonight Nov 08 08:47:57 :) Nov 08 08:48:10 ?-) Nov 08 08:49:33 lrg: Ok, thanks. I look forward to it :) Nov 08 08:50:07 lrg: For the wiki the OZ users really need to know about which modules to load and installing alsamixer etc. We'll probably take care of that in the images soon enough though Nov 08 08:50:20 RP: It should have items 1 and 3 fixed. 2 and 4 will be fixed in 0.7 Nov 08 08:51:05 anyone compiled an e-image here ? Nov 08 08:51:22 * alan|home looking for e17.libs.edje.m4_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050926.tar.gz Nov 08 08:51:26 lrg: That sounds good :) Nov 08 08:51:36 lrg: I need to try and think how we can handle 2... Nov 08 08:51:41 greentux: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/inssound might help Nov 08 08:52:18 greentux: That gives you the correct init order. You'll need the alsa_utils package to give you alsamixer to control the sound output Nov 08 08:54:37 ok and i have no feed :) Nov 08 08:58:41 and alsactl is good idea as well, to quickly save/restore mixer settings Nov 08 08:58:51 greentux: Does the 3.5.3 feed have it? Nov 08 08:59:33 you said i have only module feeds... Nov 08 08:59:50 will check tomorrow. now starts the moved meeting :) Nov 08 08:59:56 greentux: You can use applications from the 3.5.3 OZ feed Nov 08 09:00:59 koen: mallum suspects the theme is providing broken pt size Nov 08 09:01:40 RP: it's probably real easy to fix, but I haven't looked at it yet Nov 08 09:02:09 koen: you just need to tweak the theme Nov 08 09:02:33 koen: you cant make a single theme that works on every radically different display and dpi size... Nov 08 09:02:49 I was affraid of that Nov 08 09:03:19 RP: I think another unintended change slipped in that cset Nov 08 09:03:29 it sets the theme to industrial Nov 08 09:04:45 so finally it will be like qpe.conf in opie-taskbar - hand crafted file for each machine Nov 08 09:04:45 koen: Yes, it has. I changed it back to default and the titles all look better, then it locked up Nov 08 09:05:42 hrw|work: I think I'll be lazy and make one for 100DPI and one for 200DPI Nov 08 09:06:45 koen: gpe-login is still broken but the window titles look better once I fixed the theme Nov 08 09:07:05 very small titles now... Nov 08 09:07:31 I think I'll do the same for gpe-login Nov 08 09:07:40 and kill the blueishness while I'm at it Nov 08 09:13:24 Yay! Nov 08 09:13:32 (The blue annoys me) Nov 08 09:13:48 the whole login thing annoys me Nov 08 09:13:55 but that's a different matter Nov 08 09:27:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r25db80be... 10/: Nov 08 09:27:33 gpe-login 0.83: add conditional patch for high dpi machines Nov 08 09:27:33 * sets font size to 5 Nov 08 09:27:33 * sets login theme to Industrial Nov 08 09:27:33 * kills the smashed smurf look Nov 08 09:33:33 cya later Nov 08 09:33:38 * zecke goes to Uni now... Nov 08 09:36:05 hrw|work, greentux: I added a borzoi gpe image Nov 08 09:36:05 <[TEHb]> Est' kto iz Pitera? Nov 08 09:38:46 Noodles: you should be freed of the blue if you install a new gpe-login Nov 08 09:38:56 * koen reboots Nov 08 09:41:22 [TEHb]: możesz mówić po angielsku? Nov 08 09:41:56 RP: fine - I dont have borzoi currently so will not test but its good to know Nov 08 09:42:51 hrw|work: I'll add it to the announcement? Nov 08 09:44:00 RP: feel free Nov 08 09:51:29 will check borzai tomorrow. you are planing a jffs2 image next time? or let we borzai on disk? Nov 08 09:55:38 http://www.ambicom.com/products/air2net/bt2000cf-feat.html could work with 2.6? Nov 08 09:56:55 greentux_alt: iirc yes Nov 08 09:57:42 ok, try to get one in germany Nov 08 10:14:03 cu Nov 08 11:02:04 * alan|home looking for e17.libs.edje.m4_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050926.tar.gz Nov 08 11:02:24 to bitbake e-image.bb Nov 08 11:02:49 alan|home: why don't you fetch it from sorceforge cvs? Nov 08 11:03:02 koen: i don't find it... Nov 08 11:05:46 i've got to go. Nov 08 11:05:56 but i keep my window open Nov 08 11:06:04 see you Nov 08 11:35:52 koen: building gpe-image for fam-0.8.3 (not released, I know) with kernel 2.6 gives me errors when building the image "Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap" and few kernel-* packages... Is there a way to avoid this ? Nov 08 11:39:22 could you file a bug for that? Nov 08 11:40:02 ok :) Nov 08 12:00:39 Hi all... Nov 08 12:01:00 I've been doing some work on OE here at AMD, geode and alchemy related. Nov 08 12:01:21 But it amounts to some new and changed packages in different parts of the tree. Nov 08 12:01:47 Who do I see about getting write access for the monotone tree to make some submissions? Nov 08 12:06:33 Rayzor: Usually you attach patches to bugzilla and after a few patches we'll try to talk you in to write access :) Nov 08 12:07:52 talk me into it, eh? :) Nov 08 12:08:19 OK. I'll start w/ Bugzilla. Nov 08 12:58:44 hey Nov 08 13:36:04 morning Nov 08 13:36:58 hey hrw Nov 08 13:37:09 koen|tv: whats in tv? Nov 08 13:37:48 gordon ramsays hells kitchen Nov 08 13:37:59 never saw Nov 08 13:47:04 OT: someone know a tool which will be able to show and record v4l video with sound? Nov 08 13:48:09 mencoder/mplayer Nov 08 13:48:14 maybe mjpegtools Nov 08 13:49:54 best will be show/record in one time Nov 08 13:50:35 my gf want me to record one movie when she will be outside. I want to watch it during recording Nov 08 13:51:31 *curious* what movie ? Nov 08 13:52:09 gremlin[it]: its rather tv series Nov 08 13:53:05 how i can "send" a patch/modification into the repository ? (or how i can find doc about?) Nov 08 13:53:16 gremlin[it]: use bugtracker Nov 08 13:54:26 hrw: mythtv Nov 08 13:55:02 hrw : koen said me to "send into the repository" ... :( ... Nov 08 13:55:08 hi koen|tv ;) Nov 08 13:55:37 ~lart debian - lack of mythtv Nov 08 13:55:37 * ibot send killer squirrels to attack debian - lack of mythtv Nov 08 13:57:30 There are mythtv packages though. Nov 08 13:57:45 Noodles: sure - fetching now Nov 08 13:57:51 but not in debian itself Nov 08 13:58:03 Lart the package maintainer then. ;) Nov 08 13:58:16 gremlin[it]: if you have devel access then push into repo. if not then push into bugtracker Nov 08 13:58:51 * Noodles uses vdr. Nov 08 13:58:55 Though that's DVB only. Nov 08 13:59:09 koen|tv i don't have devel access !!! :) :) :) Nov 08 13:59:35 gremlin[it]: Then file a bug with the patch? Nov 08 14:00:40 Noodles i already did :) ... Nov 08 14:00:50 Link? Nov 08 14:01:21 bug #450 ... Nov 08 14:03:22 Are you sure that's the right id? Or am I looking at the wrong bugzilla? Nov 08 14:04:25 #445 sorry ... Nov 08 14:04:38 bugs.openembedded.org Nov 08 14:06:45 Right. Got it now. Nov 08 14:07:19 i did all or i miss something ? Nov 08 14:13:41 hm. mencoder gives me audio playing during record Nov 08 14:19:54 heh.. mencoder does not grab audio ;( Nov 08 14:26:24 hi zecke_ ;) Nov 08 14:26:37 hi, i'm building oe enviroment, and when i try to download db with monotone, they crash saying monotone: connecting to monotone.vanille.de Nov 08 14:26:37 monotone: network error: failed to connect: Conexión rehusada Nov 08 14:26:48 rehused connection, Nov 08 14:26:52 why can be that? Nov 08 14:26:54 use on of the mirrors Nov 08 14:27:21 hmm Nov 08 14:34:38 ok, can anyone explain me why the file i was looking for is now available but another one is mossing ? Nov 08 14:35:24 evidence_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050926.tar.gz is missing... Nov 08 14:49:12 alan|home: nothing is 'missing' from oesources Nov 08 14:49:34 it seems you have a problem with fetching stuff from cvs Nov 08 15:31:26 koen|tv: ha... Nov 08 15:31:32 ok, good to know. Nov 08 15:31:48 thansk you koen|tv . I'll check that tomorrow. Nov 08 15:32:41 koen|tv: mmm... you are right Nov 08 15:32:42 cvs checkout: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to /cvsroot/evidence for user anonymous Nov 08 15:33:02 i'll have to sole this tomorrow. Nov 08 15:33:06 bye Nov 08 16:19:28 evening Nov 08 16:20:22 it sure is Nov 08 16:20:46 no Nov 08 16:24:23 heh Nov 08 16:25:58 ~stab monotone Nov 08 16:26:17 * reenoo_ eyes at ibot Nov 08 16:27:10 Ibot has apparently become less violent in his old age Nov 08 16:28:32 maybe ibot's just tired of stabbing monotone ;) Nov 08 16:33:42 If it wants a change of pace, it can start stabbing git Nov 08 16:44:49 mickey|away: when you get back... please restart the monotone server on monotone.vanille.de and sync with ewi546 since I had to push something there Nov 08 16:46:19 kergoth: ping Nov 08 16:54:12 reenoo_: he might not respond, his GF is in town.. :) Nov 08 16:54:57 ah. heh Nov 08 16:58:14 oh well. I guess I shouldn't be taking that many courses this semester Nov 08 16:58:40 * reenoo_ sighs and goes back to studying Nov 08 16:59:06 reenoo_busy: kopf hoch! Nov 08 16:59:07 cya Nov 08 16:59:52 hey zecke Nov 08 18:04:47 'night all Nov 09 00:42:43 morning Nov 09 00:48:17 morning alan Nov 09 00:55:04 alan:Spitz has a 4.0G hard disk device, it have any buffer for HDD ? (oz-3.5.4 | kernel 2.6.14 ) Nov 09 00:55:14 morning freethinker Nov 09 00:55:42 don't know. Nov 09 00:56:05 thank you alan :-) Nov 09 00:57:27 sorry i can't help you freethinker Nov 09 00:57:57 wait for an hour, much more devs will be here. Nov 09 00:58:40 alan:never mind, :-) thank you again. Nov 09 01:49:23 pfff... i can't access sf cvs... Nov 09 01:49:28 anyone alive here ? Nov 09 02:00:10 morning Nov 09 02:00:37 freethinker: install hdparm and use 'hdparm -iI /dev/hda' - it will tell does uDrive has any cache Nov 09 02:00:50 morning Nov 09 02:01:16 i commented 2 bugs... Nov 09 02:01:31 usbnet not working, key repeat starts to fast :) Nov 09 02:01:56 greentux: all that on sl-a300? Nov 09 02:02:48 morning hrw Nov 09 02:03:20 c3100 ... opie image, strat to test gpe now Nov 09 02:03:29 greentux: ha.. now better Nov 09 02:03:33 i think modules missing (usbnet and so on...) Nov 09 02:03:38 greentux: 3.5.4-rc or test image from RP? Nov 09 02:03:52 test image from RP (3.5.4-rc has no 2.6 :) Nov 09 02:04:10 greentux: usb client will not work for some time Nov 09 02:04:20 keyrepeat... you can use to it.. Nov 09 02:04:46 morning all Nov 09 02:04:48 :( usbnet is th eonly net i can use ... reasons? can i do something? Nov 09 02:05:16 hi RP Nov 09 02:05:24 greentux: Pavel posted the code from hh.org on LKML recently. Someone needs to write the device specific support though Nov 09 02:05:53 i'm stuck into a "cvs checkout: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to /cvsroot/evidence for user anonymous" and i don't know how to get an account... Do you have an idea ? Nov 09 02:07:10 alan|home: bitbake -cfetch evidence? Nov 09 02:07:21 hrw:thank you a lot :-} Nov 09 02:07:33 alan|home: I can check does it work here Nov 09 02:07:36 freethinker: np Nov 09 02:07:48 freethinker: probably will have 4-16KiB of cache Nov 09 02:08:01 freethinker: my 256M CF card has 1KiB cache Nov 09 02:11:19 alan|home: check sf.net support pages - looks like part of cvs.sf.net not work Nov 09 02:11:50 hi zecke Nov 09 02:12:36 hrw|work: ok, so that is good news, because it means i didn't do anything wrong. ^^ Nov 09 02:12:47 bitbake -cfetch evidence --> same error. Nov 09 02:14:11 extcal also does not work Nov 09 02:14:51 alan|home: for future problems with sf.net: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=1&atid=200001 Nov 09 02:14:55 hey Nov 09 02:15:05 hrw|work: thank you very much Nov 09 02:18:14 hrw:does CF card cache need to be set ? whether CF cache is default in oz.? Nov 09 02:21:22 freethinker: cf is like ata disk Nov 09 02:21:34 freethinker: its device which use cache. not system Nov 09 02:22:27 hrw:oh ,CF itself has cache . Nov 09 02:22:34 morning all Nov 09 02:24:19 booting into gpe with borzai... Nov 09 02:25:03 hrw:thank you pretty much Nov 09 02:25:32 greentux: borzoi Nov 09 02:27:19 morning all Nov 09 02:28:06 somebody knows if dlink wlan cf card supports wpa? Nov 09 02:28:30 greentux: iirc you need to update firmware to 1.7.0 (or newer) and it will Nov 09 02:28:33 hi dirk Nov 09 02:28:44 my dcf-660w has 1.8.4 firmware Nov 09 02:28:46 hi RP Nov 09 02:28:47 hi dirk Nov 09 02:29:08 hi hrw|work Nov 09 02:30:03 do13: Can you please tell me the name of the file that spyro worked on that's in hh.org for tc6393 OHCI? Nov 09 02:32:47 xiaowen: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/drivers/usb/host/tmio_ohci.c Nov 09 02:33:03 Danke schoen. :) Nov 09 02:33:27 xiaowen: Bitte schoen. Nov 09 02:33:40 do13: Nice to see the patches went in. Shame about sharpsl_pm - no idea what's happening with that now... Nov 09 02:34:02 greentux: http://www.hrw.one.pl/ - there is a post about firmwares Nov 09 02:36:11 RP: Did you received a comment from rmk about this? Nov 09 02:38:49 do13: No, which I'm hoping is a good sign... Nov 09 02:40:09 mickeyl really work on his Ph.D Nov 09 02:40:16 108h idle time Nov 09 02:40:21 gpe works fine on borzoi Nov 09 02:42:31 greentux: That's good to know :) Nov 09 02:42:44 RP: strange. There are only two days left then rmk will clean his patch system.:) Nov 09 02:43:20 do13: I know. I have things I want to queue after these patches as well... Nov 09 02:43:26 pending bluetooth, usbnet... bluetooth can solved by buying new hardware Nov 09 02:45:54 I can tell I'm going to have to implment usbnet, just to stop people mentioning it... Nov 09 02:46:05 RP: I posted that Nov 09 02:46:15 "USB Client functionality (so usbnet, usb-storage mode) is not included in 2.6 kernel yet - work on it is progressing." Nov 09 02:46:42 hrw|work: USB Host works which is much nicer ;-) Nov 09 02:46:54 greentux: if you dont get that BT card working then I can take it and try ;) Nov 09 02:47:30 ok... with usbnet i could give you access to the borzoi Nov 09 02:48:08 greentux: ;) Nov 09 02:49:03 firmware 1.7.4 so i think i should wpa working... Nov 09 02:50:36 how we come now to a 3.5.4rc for borzai? Nov 09 02:50:40 borzoi sorry Nov 09 02:51:31 hi XorA **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 09 02:59:57 2005